#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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Could have waited one more day so I could EXR her
Definitely
But I definitely needed a quad queue due to lack of Support EXR giving me more sync buffs
and also unovan circle lasts pretty long as i thought
like i can time my unovan circle nicely when it needs to
and bmove 
this is why i love geeta 
shes so versatile
50%
Huh
but its additive so cs2 might still overall better since it improves your dps moves too
Yeah CS2 probably better here

Hell yeah congrats
i think she just lacks a proper partner
NC Bianca feels like a massive waste
Skill gear FTW
chop and rei doesnt do much for her
I was able to kill the middle but the sides killed me anyways
Who tf makes a master fair that weak that even with 3 masterfairs you can't clear
The bias toward Rei is becoming more obvious ngl
I'll go try this Geeta method later
I dont get it, what is SS Morty doing there? just tank?
whats your team
wdym?
Hey now
There’s a Leonkiller team with SS Morty, Geeta, and NC Leaf
I gotta check that out lol
Ah, that
chop and rei killed palmer so fast but if you pair chop with bianca you wont get the same result
or bianca and rei
Nevermind author said don’t use this team if you can help it LMAO
That's why she has support EXR
Yeah very support lol
Perfect balance between strike and support
Vs Hilbert P1 was easy with these pairs, but not part 2.
Need some help, which sync pair to choose?
was that at me?
its easy to fufil too
I can't believe Blue's passive is actually hurting more than it's helping me, at least for the 1st sync cycle
I am gonna try with hilda, lodge elesa and gordie
already cleared with skyla, nc rosa and nc Nate but I am gonna see if there's a more f2p clear
how to beat the new EBE without NC Bianca?
send your Unova roster here
Wait, do physical or special move next up work on sync move?
Or is it only on normal moves
they don't work on max moves and syncs
Oh, alright, got it
replace Skyla with strong dmg dealer like SC Emmet or Elesa
what about SS Roxie for the SpDef debuff?
Nvm, i guess you really need Physical Moves huh
give everyone there haste
I saw a clear with NC Rosa/Colress/Elesa not too long ago
yes 
I find it so funny that NC Blue actually killed Hilbert with Discharge
Poison + Cynthia. 2 Haste cookies ftw.
https://streamable.com/r3zxi6
This took me a lot of attempts to get this kind of luck. Also flinch luck must come at the very end, not at the beginning.
@low coral Do you have anymore off-region teams?
I can confirm that in fact you can clear with triple Masterfair pairs
On Palmer
But it requires a few specific setups past just grids so Im not sure if it's worth the effort
Managed to beat Hilbert using NC Rosa, NC Cheren, and Rei
NC Cheren was at 1/5, other two were at 3/5, all with EX Roles
It actually came down to just Cheren at the end and Fly actually managed to take down Vanilluxe
Made for a good last-ditch effort
All of mine were at 3/5. Need to have the grids that increase dmg. You need SSA Cynthia 3/5 EXR
Thanks you SSA Cynthia!
I would have got her when she reran but SST Red took priority and I was STRUGGLING lmao
Especially since I was off the heels of pitying NC Rosa
Give me a second, if anybody wants to try what I did I'll post the rotation
1/5 Bianca
Nice, I also managed to beat Palmer with 1/5 BiaNCa, 3/5 Rei, and 3/5 NC Rosa
I have 2/5 Rei. EX R though
Nice, I think mine was also 2/5 when I first beat Palmer too
I wonder if Bianca can work as a standalone damage dealer on Palmer
Hopefully PoMaTools gets updated soon with the exact numbers on her Unova Circle buffs from her passive, grid, and Lucky Skill
Wouldn't work(probably)
Pomatools needs to implement
- Will to protect passive
- Circle sync ^ 9 grid tile
And her Lucky Skill, which is the same as her grid tile but ^ 4 instead of ^ 9
You must have SSA Cynthia with EX Role. NC Bianca has Unova Circle D Sync Move Lucky Skill, NC Hop has CS2.
Have SSA Cynthia with Focus Group 9 for crit buff buildup.
Rotation:
- Bianca TM, Vacuum Wave, Thunderous Kick
- Vacuum Wave first, then Roaring Thunderous Kick, Sacred Sword. You HAVE to put Roaring Thunderous Kick second otherwise Fighting Zone will expire due to taking too long to finish the animation.
- SSA Cynthia sync - Accelerated sync counter.
- Immediately put White Light Sacred Sword, Thunderous Kick, quadqueue Vacuum Wave
- Vacuum Wave, Sacred Sword, Dire-Hit +. I put it there on purpose, it might seem like a waste at first glance, but it actually saves time and allows NC Bianca to sync in time before her circle or the Fighting Zone expires because of taking too long time.
- NC Bianca sync -
- Quadqueue Unova Circle, use Hop's Fighting Zone TM, Cynthia B Move
- Vacuum Wave, Sacred Sword, Roaring Kick
- Same rotation. At this point if you've done everything correctly you should have sync move ready by the time Palmer uses his.
- After boss does a sync -
Put fighting zone. Have SSA Cynthia use whatever move. NC Bianca sync should be saved for last.
In my case it killed the center but left sides at low HP. Quickly prepare to attack the left side first (Snorlax), as it will attempt to use a move to instantly KO you. If you are lucky, left and right should have low HP at this point, enough to kill them ASAP
is hop needed 3/5 for the dmg? would 1/5 worked
Feels like it for me, yes
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
"Powers up the moves and sync moves of all allied sync pairs when Unova Circle (Defensive) is applied to the allied field of play. "
what is this multiplier for NC Bianca?
It says on the description
Its bianca's "will to protect" passive. Its basically a cs2 buff for all of our dps and sync moves
So its 20% ? ok
Yeah
Only the Steven one. I tried the Poison one Jerjok did, but wasn't successful
i dont have one of the units most people use for the hilbert hilda ebs, so really struggling here ☠️ here’s my unova units, i feel really limited rn
Maybe Skyla, Brycen Man and SS Hilda work? Although i doubt it, but feel free to give it a try
are we talking base skyla?
Yes
almost got 1/5 NC Bianca, 3/5 Rei and 1/5 NC Rosa to work, I just couldn't proc Rei TM MPR so I think if I go at it a few more times i'll get it
though i do feel that 1/5 Dojo Gloria clear felt way smoother in place of Bianca
because of the consistency with the Atk up max move, the def debuffs and generally easier turn denial
that one didn't need Rei MPR because of dojo's own CDR (bianca has it but it gets wasted on the first sync cycle?)
might not be using bianca properly though'
Rebuffs + Unova = ???
I will not take on Hilbert or Hilda
Cuz my NC Leaf will get damaged easily
I'll get to editing tomorrow, first try and rosa had antitoxin, forgot to change lucky skill
Might try Cheren tomorrow too, have quite a bunch of stuff to do on top of morning taken up by irl events
10%
Like how Leaf can burn, but Irida lacks Hostile Enviroment and is 1 use only
Bede also has a 10% freeze
@crude marten Lucy pre-sync is very easy
To the point you don't need to turn skip
But also, you can't turn skip eithe way lmao
Fsr, Lucy queues Sludge Wave pre-sync instead of letting Nidoqueen use X SpA All when I play
Which doesn't happen when I don't click any move
And I'm not even debuffing Lucy's SpA
Hello guys, I'm trying to beat UB Leon and I have 2 pikachus, but I don't know what support I can use
I have tried SS blue, Cynthia, and NC Bede but they didn't work
Aura Cynthia?
Assuming you have SST Red and Ash as your 2 pikachus and SSA Cynthia, it has been done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue9E2HlGgWE
Aura Cynthia tanking fire type moves? Totally unheard of, right? Well, this video proves it.
Weird, would've thought Bede would work well
What move level is the Cynthia? And does she have her EX role?
oh just wanted to say that it worked, had to give vigilance to alt iris and a couple of potion refreshes
thanks
Wouldn't he die pretty fast
Idk, his self recovery is solid af
And giving ash and red SEUP should make the stage go down even faster
I don't have any roll cakes since I didn't play last year
I used him to tank Anabel without too much trouble back when she debuted
Bede is 1/5, Cynthia is 3/5 I think
It also depends on the teammates, he has no offensive debuffing and his defense buffs are slow
What's SEUP?
Super Effective up next
oh okay maybe I'll have to try to time that right
Yeah no that's 3/5 bede
1/5 definitely can't work
No heals, no SEUP, no faster defence raises
This is very precise
Turn order is pretty specific, as you have to deny Empoleon from using its last turn so Cynthia could reapply zone and have Rei chunk a huge amount of Palmer's health with his B-move. Bianca is there to replace SC Steven from last time with her rebuff and her ability to give Unova Circle (Defensive), and provide physical mo...
Bianca proving her power in Palmer's UB
Well that and also rei just kinda carri stage that way
Not that Bianca isn’t helping just that rei be rei when it comes to palmer
Also anyone else find it weird that cheren and bianca don’t have exclamation marks at the end
It’s kinda tilting to me
And that makes 2/2 Unova EBs with this team 
https://youtu.be/vIGxl_SA1qg
This was anoying lol
But felt good at the end. It let me test grid nodes on silver that i hadn't used before.
Team setup:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhATFhkaHB8i&v1=000002002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFCw4dICMlKSwtLi8&v2...
just did the hilbert UB with nc rosa, champ iris, and reg hilda
not sure how this ub is doable without rosa tbh
Must’ve meant ebe ya.
tbh I think if you don't have NC Rosa or the focus pairs, you need some hella crack to power through
on-region doesn't really have that much
I've seen people running summer Hilda very successfully
- off region rebuffer
- whatever third that works enough
I also seen people use NC Leaf, SS Hilda and base Skyla.
But ya, there’s definitely some clears without NC Rosa.
I used NC Red for Rebuff, SSN, OG Skyla and it was pretty smooth
Much easier than the Hilda EBE without Rosa
I copied the NC Leaf, SS Hilda and base Skyla clear. Didn’t get the leaf sync on time but still managed to do it.
my unova roster is pretty weak
but bellelba can take most of the hits, and an off region can apply rebuff
the dps is my main problem
part 1 hilbert was fine but part 2 seems unwinnable with lodge skyla as dps
ex hilda worked for me, but i had c iris to apply defense debuff
base hilda not SS right?
base yeah
well the problem is that goride on ly does rebuff two times
and there are 3 of enemeis to beat
unless he has like a tar shot mp refresh or something
nope, then he could theoretically apply -3 lmao
and that would be too good for a gen pool
thanks dena
he can use max guard on himself to survive a sync which is good
fast track 9 for better gauge or to nullify the damage boost hilbert gets
the probelm is that without a third rebuff, one of the dudes is gonna be impossible to kill
my 1/5 bellelba with no aggravation flinch will carry trust me
(+ enemies having 6 evasion lmao)
On second EBE only mid needs rebuff
hilda one?
No Hilbert
Hilda was first, Hilbert second.
You have zero rebuf unit?
on a team of hilda gordie and bellelba, one unit wont be getting rebuffed
i have SC Lyra and SS Wally for aoe rebuff though
Ncleaf ncblue etc
Bianca doesn’t rebuff all 3 and it’s designed for her
It would make no sense for all 3 to need to be rebuffed
it does say that all should be which is weird
but bianca has piercing blows
so even though she can only rebuff one, looks like all prob get damage reduction
In that case just rebuff mid and pick a side lol
Brycen-man also has aoe rebuff. No clears with it tho.
But. It doesn’t lower defense.
maybe give brycen man defense crush????
if i had brycen man i could prob pull it off
Piercing blow doesn’t work on negative status defense up
since it would just perform like a better SC Lyra
I’m like 90% sure on this
this isnt defense
this is damage reduction
if it was 3x defenses then yes, piercing blows wouldnt matter
Oh rly?
Bloob
i'm glad i was able to do part 2 hilda with my pairs, but without brycen man or a stronger unovan pair, looks like im out of luck for hilbert part 2
(even brycen man would prob not be enough lol)
I use ncrosa so I cannot comment
Maybe I try to cook up something with gordie
But also you may have piercing blow unit yes?
Maybe a sstr or N
not a single one lmao
closest is emmet with piercing gaze but only at 3/5 (dont have)
oh true lmao
the farthest uve gotten is 50% hp on vanilluxe with the sides cleared
vanilluxe just has a ton of health
Wut ur offensive unit
That took a while. But possible without NC Leaf.
Congrats!
This clear will require miss and hit lucks and luck to not be crit by dire hit+. Might be the first one that cleared with Zoroark I think.
have fun

What am I supposed to use for this Hilbert extreme battle event?
Rebuff possibly and Phys strikers
Possibly with accuracy buffs or some form of evasion removal
Has anyone beat Drasna? Her defense is so high, it takes less damage
She has a ton of hp rather than defence
This battle’s too difficult
what are your unovan units?
and do you have a pair that can apply aoe rebuff, even if they're non unovan?
Lodge Skyla lol
I’ll have to show you
Uhhh…
You have NC Bianca, use her with some good supports and you should manage
you should use this unit, shes pretty good apparently :)
obv with some more investment (levels or EX), as well as good supports (I see you have Ingo, and you likely have OG Skyla)
it shouldnt be too difficult
just endure
Don't recommend ingo
literally just ENDURE
also mooncow is right that unit litearlly solves hilbert
as is the point of the ebe
to show off how good bianca is
also ingo isnt bad
oh i thought that was normal ingo oops
Ingo is bad when ran on a non sand team
Which the person doesn't even have
SC is really bad in most content soo yea
NC Bianca, NC Cheren, and OG Skyla should be more than enough for this battle
oh lol what
ebes are so dumb lmao
they REALLY want you to use bianca
triple spdef with no counter lmao
the point is this unit gud here, this unit gud here
no wonder my off region ss gladion attempt was so bad
would be defeatist if one unit solved both
You can clear without bianca
i wouldnt say that
this one is way harder than hilda's for me
its about as hard as the other one that required rebuff
granted im talking about f2p only
most people SHOULD have a good rebuff unit by now
This isn’t hoenn or johto or kalos who have like no units
give me SS bertha with shiny groudon already dena
Ok can someone help trying to beat Drasna. Her team has too much buff, too much HP, and too much Defense.
I did a rush sync move but it took small amounts of hp out.
Lowering defense dose not do much
#1009554906568462476
did you record? 
yeah this happened to my adaman presync i know what triggers that
No, but I can, there's nothing really hard about it
see if you get her to below 40% just before sides queue spA all, seviper will take over and use another sludge wave
still want to see 
Yeah, I am getting her below 40%, I was thinking it was indeed related to endurances
it is
Did you check the Anabel pre-sync?
Not yet, but I recorded it and it was in-game
is palmer possible with these units?
Let me upload the Lucy here, I can upload the Anabel one after
Ingo?
sorry, I was thinking of ingo and excadrill, not emmet and escavalier
NC Nate, NC Bianca and a support (OG Skyla is solid) would prob be more than enought to clear
NC Nate and NC Bianca's circles and master passives stack btw
NC Blue keeps dying from sync in Hilda's battle part 2
i know that the boost doesn't apply to him but I don't really have another option
wany tips for ultimate palmer? i've tried with my 1/5 Rei + 3/5 Hop + 2/5 Cynthia... and 1/5 Rei + 3/5 Hop + 3/5 Rosa... and now tried with 3/5 Bianca + 3/5 Hop + 3/5 Rosa, is there no way to stall him before he destroys you?
all those teams should be able to win
in the pinned doc you should be able to find all of those
doc is organized, nice, thx.
Real how do you access the pinned doc
On mobile you click the extreme ultimate thing on top of ur screen, and you’ll see settings and then click that
does anyone know what i can do?
Anybody here done an Irida + NC Red vs Leon clear? Wanted to know how hard it was
Ok, I'm hella late for this. I've got my first vacation from work, but I'm focusing much more on my real life, going to the gym, seeing friends and family, etc. But you knew this was coming. Irida is 5/5 now, and despite her not having 5/5 nodes due to being a MF, +10 energy essentially unlocks Satisfied Snarl on her usual grid, so I see it as t...
Ok difficult, took more time because I forgot I could sync with Cynthia to disable Leon's passives
He’s (Hilbert) is making this difficult
He’s not taking much damage from NC Bianca
Are you making sure to target the center with Bianca’s B Move?
after testing some runs on palmer, i conclude bianca is better outside fighting comp 
I need more context than that
Hilbert done, still not at home yet though to edit 
I’ve done it with ssn Rosa cheren
I would’ve done it with Bianca but the defense down matters
Please buff ssn

So what are the recommendation teams for Hilbert Pt 2 I don’t have NC Hop or Rei btw
Has there been any videos of ebe using f2p pairs?
Only Hilda one is having f2p option rn
Ok i do my best
I will spend 2 hours
Wish me luck

(I search for f2p)
Yea, heard it's lodge elesa lodge skyla and ghesis, was wondering if a video for it has been done by anyorn
Well im in deep doo doo i guess. Bea ain’t working 🤣
But also peekuo do you know the best damage dealer for unova f2p
Is it literally just lodge skyla
There is Gordie/L Skyla and Hilbert too
Uhhh you just answer it yourself
Ooo, any videos of that?

That is for Hilda
I see
I checked some runs and noticed that... it is doable with just General Pool units one of the hardest hitters of Flying Types... Lodge Skyla... The run has no rooms for error sadly... so all that appears in the video has to happen for you too. Now, explaining a bit why each unit:
- Lodge Skyla: She hits very hard on-type and is from Unova. She al...
Why is f2p unova so shit lmfao
Only need 3/5
Gordie probably only 1/5
Have hilbert at 1/5 , goodies at 2/5

Lodge Skyla being the best damage dealer is so ass

I don’t wanna invest in herrr cuz I JUST got cheren
What about the other one mentioned? The lodge elesa lodge skyla and ghesis?
He’s so mean istg
It’s worse cuz I think it relies on flabbergasted rng

Those I have resources for, just not sure how to build them for this

Or else friend care
Wait, whay about just for Hilda 1?
So just find the video and keep doing it until you get the correct rng
I'll just give up on Hilda 2 
Is the video of that floating around somewhere?
I saw it float around but idk what it called
I see... discord search function is always soo hard to use 
Cuz they make unit broken and be like pls summon for broken unit that make ebe easier
And for units that aren’t broken
I just started imagining ebe as rebates for pulls
what do we think about this ebe
Still trying to figure out which pairs to invest in for hilda part 1
finished with lodge elesa, but not sure if spamming her web is doing anything in the battle
hey guys, what are hilda and hilbert's mechanics for EB?
Hilda want rebuff and speed down
Hilbert want rebuff and speed up
Gordie die in one icy wind
Any other rebuff f2p or gordie is it
for the damage neutralizing, trapped or restrained also works, not sure about anything else
I initially tried alister with gmax restrain then a poison before he goes down
Sync Grids, Lucky Skills, EX Roles available at the end of video and on request on discord: https://discord.gg/JUMNhQBM7U
Black-and-White Extreme Battle Event
vs Hilbert https://youtu.be/JlM6Z5iE7Wk
vs Hilda https://youtu.be/2PLZ0RrhJk4
Battle Rally
Battle Rally Tips (Maximize Points & Preparation) https://youtu.be/3sIHqa8j9uI
1st attempt 7600...
thanks!
Bro unova sucks
It doesn’t have a bp morty support
It’s one or the other no in between
You only need to remove sun for Anabel or need to have active Rain? I'm trying to clear with C Rosa, Cerena and May. Do I need multiple MPRs to maintain Rain throughout the fight?
You must remove sun at all time
You need 3 instance only
Well 2
On entry and post sync?
I'm getting close to bringing down mid but sides are still healthy at that point
Ok?
Don't know if I'll make it even if I kill mid
Wait ur move level is 3 right
Yeah all 3/5+
Ye should be chilling
VVTF first try, Elesa literally solos it
she op
Ncblue tho
yeah, I need him for rebuff, but idk feels like Hilda hits way harder
we don't talk about Blue
I think if f2p had something to counter negative status, this match would be simple 
I tried thorton
He’s good on paper
But this ebe is fucking annoying
That or they changed how flinch do
Cuz it auto skip to zorark snarl when flinch
Which is like why
no no no
And then one icicle spear and I die
I don’t have the feature units dose champion rosa is still favored to take on Hilbert?
There’s a rebuff on fighting
Ok did anyone take on Hilbert or Hilda?
Rosa is one of the best units for both fights
Besides applying rebuff, she can also partially counter their other gimmicks
Ok so no need to get Bianca. How about Cheren?
There's no must-have unit in this game. You decide what you want
Yeah but part two is where it gets harder and tedious.
Which fight are you struggling with?
added a couple hilbert clears, do keep submitting 
You sure? I can wait a little so I can watch it on YouTube to see if anyone beats it without the feature units.
Ok I’ll send it anyways.
You're doing Hilbert right?
both
HOW
Sweet, thanks
for Hilda, use NC Rosa, SS Hilda and Ghetsis
for Hilbert use the same team but with Skyla instead of Ghetsis
For Hilbert, I'd do NC Rosa/Lodge Elesa/Damage Dealer
I said Hilbert, not Hilda
yes that's my point
@jade marsh My team also has additional energy too used
I added it in
The +XE next to the move level
Oh wait i see what you mean
Adding, thanks

I confused you for Kazu’s clears 😭
Ok
Sync Grids, Lucky Skills, EX Roles available at the end of video and on request on discord: https://discord.gg/JUMNhQBM7U
Black-and-White Extreme Battle Event
vs Hilbert https://youtu.be/JlM6Z5iE7Wk
vs Hilda https://youtu.be/2PLZ0RrhJk4
Battle Rally
Battle Rally Tips (Maximize Points & Preparation) https://youtu.be/3sIHqa8j9uI
1st attempt 7600...
I checked some runs and noticed that... it is doable with just General Pool units one of the hardest hitters of Flying Types... Lodge Skyla... The run has no rooms for error sadly... so all that appears in the video has to happen for you too. Now, explaining a bit why each unit:
- Lodge Skyla: She hits very hard on-type and is from Unova. She al...
@jade marsh can you add this 2 team ?
Not my but those are f2p
Sure
I can't believe Bropenings actually used Flabbergast on L. Skyla
Actually that’s a good point
Y’all if you don’t want to use the form at least ping me if there’s a video you want to add
What?
Just cause i don’t monitor this channel all the time 
I see
Not an accessible team... but it serves a purpose for those who have Blue (Champion)... Him having EX Role is not needed, sides get one shot by Elesa anyway... these are the pointers:
- Blue's job is mainly to reduce the Rebuff of the center. Reset if necessary to give all enemies the Electric Rebuff from Discharge... After that, his other job i...
here, the C Blue with the Unova Besties... no skill gear used, just regular typed one
I'd say that if no one has Blue but C Leaf, she can be used here too
Yes that's the best unit if you dont have featured
Rebuff+ raising stats (albeit rng once her tm is used up)
For Hilda: Rosa+ Ghetsis+ SS N
For Hilbert: Rosa+ SS Hilda+ SS N
Yep
He’s still not taking much damage
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https://youtu.be/oPoCiAiurc8
https://youtu.be/Ppfg5Tii58g
@jade marsh could you add these 2 to the ebe doc? Ice type gear used for Hilda EBE and fire type gear used for Hilbert respectively
Comments:
Other than gauge managemen...
Comments:
Similar to Hilda’s EBE, ga...
Most of relevant pairs I assume in these images. Master fairs and unovan.
Any low effort teams I can use for the other side of the ebe? The one that wants physical? Doubt I can just brute force with Cheren since I hear it has x3 entry
Just whatever comp+grids would be lowest resistance for me to replicate
(I don’t mind possibly investing
on grid expansions if needed.)
NC Rosa + SS Hilda + Lodge Elesa for Hilda
replace L Elesa with Skyla and you have the team for Hilbert
Your hilbert pomatools link is your hilda link but otherwise added, thanks 
Oh ill fix rq ty
Already did the flying type one with Cheren
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
thanks, you should edit the one in your description if you haven't already 
np, just did
ty for the heads up 
cool
tf is going on with hilbert that I'm doing pretty much no damage to him 
Oooh wise entry x3 
Rebuff?
my physical unova dps are basically non existent yikes
That's Hilda
Hilbert needs physical
Oh yeah
anyway beat it but it was tedious
Is it possible to beat palmer without using rei ?
There are clears in the pins that didnt have Rei.
How to check the pin in here again sorry i don't really understand the new mobile discord ui
+pins
Aight thanks
I have C Blue maxed but he keeps dying on first sync
Hi so yesterday, I was trying to take on Hilda. The team that you suggested was champion rosa SS rosa and Ghetsis. It did some damage but It lasted until the 2nd sync attack.
Ngl I have no idea what to do for Hilda at this point
One sec lemme grab my unova list and other notables
SS Rosa? You mean SS Hilda?
No neo champion rosa
Yes, I saw Champion Rosa, but who is the other unit besides Ghetsis?
I tried with NCLeaf/SSHilda/Skyla but Leaf gets wrecked first sync and Skyla doesn't last much longer even though I've basically got her on a potion spam grid lol
Besides needing a rebuff, you also need to lower the enemies' speed
Yeah and idk what to do with the resources I have =,)
Maybe the fairy team would be funny
None of them are unova but if I roll right with Volo's lucky skill I might get speed debuffs or something LOL
it probably wouldn't work
Update it definitely doesn't work
You have NC Rosa or nah?
First screenshot is all the unova I have
I could throw a candy into SSHilda since I was planning on doing that eventually anyway but I only have one so I don't think it would help
Did it.
I can't use ghetsis because I can't give him enough spatk buffs to do damage, my classic elesa does no damage, I need to keep leaf because she has the rebuff but SHE doesn't do any damage either because she's not unova, I can't use archer because he does no damage because he's not unova, I can't fit volo in here and also the RNG is gross, detective Shauna is weak to earthquake, probably can't survive long enough to do anything anyway and also RNG
I stg there's just nothing I can do
Hilda is easier of the 2
Just use lodge skyla
And if you don’t have her uh I guess use elesa seems like she works
Well urs isn’t 3:5 so use hilda
Then use skyla and fish for flinches
Penny, Lodge Skyla, and OG Skyla might work!
penny is prob tanky enough to survive the first nuke and apply rebuff to the whole team
I don't have lodge skyla
And even if I started right now there's no way I can get her in time for it to be useful here
Say, for darach UB, does any WTZ works to nullify its triple stat boost? Also, is there any other major gimmick for darach to watch out for other than the field effect gimmick?
He gains gradual regen after he syncs
Oof... but no way for him to disable WTZ right?
Yeah, he doesn't remove fields unlike Leon
You could def get her in time, there is 13 days left, which means you need an average of 8ish levels per day, which isnt that bad
debating whether to splurge 250 pts on permanent poison zone in rally just for him XD
I definitely do not have the resources to get 8 levels per day
if you dont want to invest the time and resources though i understand
Or the luck, for that matter
With 6 attempts each day? even with the lowest booster, you should average around 10 levels a day
remember the exchange can get you 3 more attempts per day for 6 interactions/day
I don't have the resources to do 6 per day every day
just started the game?
I barely check lodge because I don't care about it and when I was checking I was using all my resources working on wally and volo
thats understandable, some lodge pairs are solid but it does feel like a chore to do it sometimes
I also just don't care about Skyla at all whatsoever but that's not what this conversation is about
🤣
but yea, just hope to confirm, poison zone will be enough to block darach's boost, right?
if you count SS Red lol
Any field can do it if it affects the enemy side
WTZ and/or damage field
WTZ does
whew, ty
Darach is meant to showcase field units
also, just realized that if it does affect both sides, using my Lucas against dragon weak drasna was probably not the smartest plan XD
thanks 🙂
thats really nice to know~ XD
would it be possible to clear Darach with Geeta, NC Silver, and Acerola?
Acerola seems to conflict with Geeta's zone a bit
No it wouldn't
but i literally dont have any other support in the UB clear repository lmao
Since it's a different type of field
ohh right
also acerola is flying weak :(
And Darach is mostly physical damage and SS Acerola can handle physical attacks very well
Just switch acerola with someone else tbh
Doesnt SSAcerola have sun
i dont really have anyone better lmao
Yes she does
Yeah and makes NCsilver way worse LOL
Which also helps the enemies' Heat Wave
It can work, but I think there's better alternatives
My theory is that darach might be doable for me with an offensive duo of, like, lodge volo and NCSilver but my supports are lacking atm
here are my supports
that arent gen pool
acerola is 3/5 forgot to update lol
the only ones who i could see working are bellelba and acerola tbh
U has geeta and silver
That alone should work
both 1/5, i assume NC Silver atleast should be 3/5?
Oh
1:5 silve is fine ? but geeta no super duper effective kinda rough
Geeta prob not worth using then
Just get more sandstorm imo
Oh they're 1/5
Oof
Yeah it's better to just run Bertha them
Trap + rocks+ sand chips darach a ton
Silver + bertha + a good healer would work
bertha is only 2/5 😭
might be able to make it work still
no sandcastle or endurance kinda sucks though
If ur support good enough
It doesn’t matter
Idk if silver kills fast enough but mayhap
I'm surprised this worked
i got decently close atleast
3/5 silver might be enough
with more pmun and sand blaster 9
Accerola has pmun
Could make the difference
Looks fine
She just has decent defenses and raises them herself and isn’t weak to flying
different strat and a little closer with bellelba
bertha doing more damage than silver 💀
i'll try this team comp again whenever i get 3/5 bertha then, these battles arent going anywhere thankfully lol
I don’t think she need sand castle tbh but yeah battle ain’t goin anywhere
since acerola puts up grassy terrain on sync, what should the sync order be?
Acerola - silver - acerola - acerola ?
If 1/5 silver sync that useless sure ye
its pretty bad lmao
sorry thats 3/5
there we go
and he gets 2 100% multipliers at 3/5 i think lmao
Hey guys, all good? Can this team clear this stage?
No better physical damage,
lol
wait, i calc'd wrong
Maybe ? Idk if Blue can deal enough dmg with Flare Blitz
His only dps multiple is ….. Charging Sun 3
Thank you!
Usar silver
Blue also needs a rebuff to do flare blitz damage
Yes, there is, extremely RNG though
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Lemme see
ngl nita's stage sounds suspiciously easy... gotta be a detail im missing here.
2 endures on 500+k hp is kinda annoying
ah heres what i was missing. gotta take out sandstorm many times...
still not terrible tho, i imagine i can just tear the fight to shreds with irida
Is design for irida
main thing im unsure of is if i might have trouble with my ncred being only 1/5
Well, it's a stage made for Irida
I think Nita will turn out to be a good challenge
There's no playing around the lack of Speed probably as Nita's bonus is bigger than Leon's (although Leon I believe had stronger moves, so maybe that compensates a bit?), as well as the weather removal also probably being mandatory
And I think the sides will give a lot of trouble to people generally
Writting Nita off rn due to having Irida I think might be equivalent to writting Leon off because you had Tbolt Red
fair
an icy wind user is definitely required from the sounds of it
...or glaciate from ghetsis maybe?
I have 1/5 irida and 3/5 exr nc red, so im assuming im fine, but who else should I bring?
Extra Hail
Its not guaranteed speed drops
Can I bring SS Morty?
it sounds like a bad idea but he’s 3/5 exr and I dont have pbea
Gauge: 4 | Power: 155 | Accuracy: 95 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Speed by 1 stat rank.
Ghetsis & Kyurem
wdym not guaranteed
I thought it was just random
Possibly Hail 1st Sync on Red could work
You can, but Morty dislikes playing under Hail
But Red + Irida may work even under sun
Its mostly for extra weather and cuz he’s super tanky
ghetsis might be f2p's best chance at nita, if they can provide the weather replacement and such
I sure will
To ncleaf it up
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/598711924598767626/1247256399097102368/image0.jpg?ex=665f5d8a&is=665e0c0a&hm=904c43ab0150047ab8527ba7537019e37df90a9f3de3778a1b132ac321f0c326& this one took SO long but finally….all ultimate battles complete
(My fire team is awful)
@shrewd marten I 3/5'd Geeta and barely got it, tysm!!
flinch immunity literally ran out the turn i used silver b move, and darach had heat wave queued up lmao
oooo i'll check that out
its kinda surprising that that team isnt on the UB repository yet
but i didnt record it and im not sure i want to do it again right now
atleast not until i get more cookies so i can throw on surging sand 3 or CS2 on geeta
surging sand 2 was all i could get for now
Well mines 1/5 so I don’t think I can attempt it with that move level I think.
3/5 is def worth it for geeta with how versatile she is
but ive been mulling over which field I wanna 3 star for a while now, just decided to do it now
yep, it was either geeta or akari personally
Akari is good but Geeta is just better. Both are amazing though
Okay, how are people winning the Ultra Hard Hilda battle? I got by with this team for Part 1, but it's not enough for Part 2.
my thought with geeta is that shes already solid at 1/5, a lot of akari's tools are locked behind 3/5 though
she'll prob be next if there isnt another field by the time i get a candy lol
I’d agree with that conceals
But at an equal move level comparison Geeta wins hands down
she has a lot of good tools, i was focusing more on the rock damage
being able to fish for her tmpr is pretty solid
and propulsion on bmove
+50% more move power on poisoned opponents +30% sync, and getting a pmun when wtz activates are very solid
literally one of acerola's passives on the geeta's grid lmao
I think you can check the pin. We currently have 2 examples for the F2P team right now. 
Which ones are easier? I have Anni Skyla and NC Rosa as well
i was lying hard, i've improved the turn denial/flinch/weather order and its way more consistent lmao
Geeta is the best rock sync pair
video if anyone wants to watch it (I uploaded the wrong one earlier lol)
Why surging sand on Geeta?
Silver is sanding it up
Yup but weathered warrior is better bc it applies to sync moves and it’s 10% more. Also if playing surging sand 2, cs2 is better for the same reason 
There’s no grid tile of ss for Geeta 
i have surging sand 2 on geeta because I ran out of lucky cookies 
didnt know weathered warrior was better, applying to syncs too
but i was trying to go for CS2 with my like 10 silver crunchy cookies left lmao
We getting lg in a few days for cookie farming to fix it 
oh yeah WW is deluxe exclusive
i told myslef i was gonna grind the hell out of the last LG and i never did lmao
tapu bulu made it so easy too 
when i get the cookies, i'll def have to throw WW on NC Silver atleast
been running SS3 since i got him lmao
@low coral just checked your anabel run 
did you do any stun extend with flinch into freeze 
Idk if I'll upload it alone or record all other pre-syncs and compile
offtype presync anabel deserves a trophy imo 
Am I missing something here? I can't pre-sync, I can't win post-sync
is lodge skyla EX? her nuke is very strong if gridded properly
If you’re Syncing with A. Skyla then you need someone who can actually buff her Sp. Atk.
I can EX her if necessary. But it's not that close regardless
I can candy the move level too
here was my clear using bellelba and sc lyra
Pretty unoptimal gear and bad rng until the very end, but its a lot more consistent than it looks as long as lyra can survive the first sync
(helps if shes max level unlike mine lol)
apparently rosa needs someone to buff her defenses? i dont have her
but as a support she can cover SC Lyra's rebuff that i had to use
you could probably run double support and lodge skyla
I don't have two of three of those units
I had tried SC Steven for the rebuff and stat drops, but it wasn't enough. Though I haven't tried him with NC Rosa...
yeah, but NC Rosa and OG Skyla should cover their roles nicely
No?
Who tells you she not tanky

oh lmao
Dropping speed would go a long way to survivability
if you have lodge elesa, shes really good at that
ah okay
Even so she has potion and masterfair passive
NC Rosa is probably much stronger than bellelba, and SC Lyra is there just to apply rebuff and contribute to sync countdown
So like she just isn’t flimsy
oh is the defense buff random?
I did hilda with ncrosa bianca 1:5 cheren
oh here it is
It random for teammate if jon3/5
lodge elesa,ex gridded lodge skyla and nc rosa should destroy this stage @olive hull
Sounds promising. I'll give it a shot
Though I have to EX Lodge Skyla, it sounds like?
you could try an anni skyla team instead
but if you dont have her ex'd roled, then it may be hard to take down the sides
(someone back me up ive never used them before)
She definitely needs at least 2/5 to be good. I can't even spend 15 points on her grid. Sync is no good even at EX compared to Lodge Skyla
yeah, lodge skyla has the benefit of being free and 4 star, so you can easily get all of the multipliers from her grid
she also has a very good grid layout
you get all the necessities from this
unfort you miss out on 2 sync power nodes, but it covers her gauge pretty well
also when i did my clear i upgraded her energy cap by 2 but it wasnt necessary at all lmao
i just picked up an extra tile without realizing and thought i needed more energy
It was close though 
damn, very close
oh yeah, theres a 1/5 Lenora, 1/5 Anni Skyla, 1/5 NC Rosa (roll caked) clear if youre interested lol
I wanted to do this stage with 1/5 Anni Skyla, despite the lack of aoe sync, a middling Air Cutter DPS and only having +2 SpAtk (Wasn't lucky lol) I'm surprised she could pull through still
Who is Lenora? I must not have her
Maybe sync with Lodge Elesa before the sync obliterates her? I could have been at 4 sync faster
Lenora is a fairly recent gen pool addition (2023 October), I wanted to check since there was a chance you had her, but rip
Gen pool is such a mess right now. 4 years of units of varying quality, fishing for that fraction of a percent. Hopefully the updated ticket scout will help there
Just managed to finally clear Hilda’s battle with a (mostly) F2P team
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
SC Steven is the truth 🙏
Because he crushes the stats I need so quickly, it really helps survivability and DPS. I cleared center pre-sync anyway though
Congrats! 
Thanks!
Now on to Hilbert. It's gonna be much tougher since there's no viable on-type option
i didnt have a setup for hilbert part 2 :( Good luck!
(because i also didnt have a good fighting lmao)
Same. So I just did SS Hilda instead.
Gimmick is hard to beat too. Enemy is always evasive. You're always losing speed. They do more damage if your speed is low
you can run haste on everyone to get rid of the gimmick for the msot part
evasion is the worst though
and low on-type options
(I dont want to use marshall lmao)
I would have thought the cracked featured support unit would be the harder battle to beat. The striker is too stacked as well
She does like what it would take 3 units to do even part of
yeah, I really like Bianca's kit, but i'm still hesitant to pull with Anni so close
i like the gimmick of circles for some reason, and she has piercing blows to negate most gimmicks lol
also at higher move levels she can do every LG solo which is funny
not a big gauntlet fan personally though
I'm close with SS N here. But it's tricky.
do you have SS Hilda? theres a clear with that
Team used: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010102064800&s0=3&l0=132&r0=6&p0=0&a0=17010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBggKDRAaHB8hIyQ&v1=000403049400&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBg8SFRYXGh0gIQ&v2=008903064602&s2=3&l2=136&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgwOERMWLzIzNA
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Similar to Hilda’s EBE, gaug...
but they use 3/5 Rosa (+ the others too)so it might not be that realistic
Aerial Ace stronk
Chops off a good 10-15% depending on the physical move boost earned. But really, it's N carrying here with his really strong attacks
Hilda had me sweating meanwhile Hill Billy Bert was a walk in the park. Rosa kept raising only the team's evasion so his own tactic was used against him 🤣🤣🤣
Saves me having to candy NC Rosa again. Best hate-pull I ever did
congrats!!
Hilda probably would've been easier with Lenora since she has Leer + Team Sp. Def boosts but I only have her at 1/5. Also giving her a tech ex role is A Choice.
support/tech: 
I will admit it makes slightly more sense than support/strike
Nice comp. Yeah N kinda broken
Probably the most he's redeemed himself in my eyes. I was not a big fan of his play style and I felt like a fool pulling him to not even get a reward multiplier. But damn he goes hard on these longer battles
He manage to carry Roxie as well👀
Frickin piercing blow going places
2 turns move is a bit tricky
But that what makes him fun to play
It takes so long to fully debuff too, but once it does, then you almost can't die
damn y'all are making me wished i pulled for SS N during the 4.5 select scout lmao
That's why I'm mad with Hilbert EB because evasiveness
+2 eva seems like 100% guaranteed dodge🤣
Poor N
Somehow most attacks hit and I think you can see they were +6 evade when I won
Too bad it's not like Latias where it goes down as you land hits lol
Pull him if you lack unova bonus tho..
On top of that, he often used in LG, due to PIERCING BLOW👀
unova bonus? he doesnt have master passive
Lmao, Fluid fortif+weakened is what makes Latias bulky, and also weak haha
i only didnt pull him because i was a coward lol (scared of 2 turn move)
I mean bonus damage, not master passive.
It's for EBE only.
He's quite a good debuffer and dealer
Bonus region
i still need to decide if i want to get bianca/cheren (or skip)
NC Nate is one of my most wanted
and stacking circles with bianca sounds funny lol
but who knows when he'll rerun
my unova roster is pretty weak all things considered
This. You can check your roster, whether if you have some high tier pairs or not, to covering each region.
I won't discuss about off typing here tho
my unova roster is almost as weak as you can get lol
Bellelba and Emmet are my only pokefairs
no MFs
PB Ghetsis and Lodge skyla carry the rest of the damage
Not a single MF?
for unova? nope
No, what about other region?
Ohh right...
Haha, SS Gladion is excluded from the gang🤣
he would be so much better if i had SS Mina or Penny lmao
hes still really solid ofc but UBs and stuff are pretty much off the table
I have never regretted not pulling any Unova MF, if it was for EBE
Elesa+Skyla, the third slot is whatever you need, and it works 90% of the time
best couple, I mean best partner when the two of them's kits work well together
Who should I be using for take on hilbert part 1
NC Rosa, Elesa/OG Hilda and Skyla
Do I gotta do anything special?
pray for some team spdef up proc from NC Rosa, and some Skyla's TM MPR
Or invest a support candy into nc rosa so force field* can be used on her fully unlocked grid to guarantee the team spdef up
i think you meant Force Field
we don't advise people to candy units to beat a battle, unless they are totally fine with it
Can't believe i finished this 2 battle challenge with this team after many tries,pray to rng massive rock slide will not miss. 
Thats Hilbert Part 2 ? Did you record it ?
Just don’t miss lol
All need 3/5 EXR to be possible ( Maybe Rei doesn’t need cake )

They have
Yeah, I have seen bianca vs Thorton and Palmer
it isnt on the sheet yet?
Need help on extreme battle event black-white these are my units f2p returnee
Is there best way to defeat the side on palmer rumbling might ? i can nuke palmer before it sync but i always die to rock slide or Blizzard afterward
What team are you using?
NC bianca NC hop and NC rosa
I've done Argenta, darach, Anabel, palmer and thorton with her
She's really versatile
She goes kinda crazy with NC silver and NCNate for obvious reasons
Focus sides a bit with Bianca beforehand
I tried to do that once but it makes me not deal enough damage to palmer
You can likely tank a spread move if you debuff and kill Empoleon before it does blizzard
Snorlax is less scary because he alternates rock slide and giga impact
Probably need to tinker with grids thtn
Hmm do i need 3/5 bianca to do this or should i just replace her with aura cynthia
Oh you know what bad idea i really do need the 3 fighting type rebuff on palmer to be able to nuke it
Mhhh 1/5 bianca is definitely not as insane but she should work still if you manage circle well enough
Her biggest helps for UBs are both 3)5 tiles after all
Oh well i guess i will just try to clear it later then bianca is at 2/5 and i have about 16 striker coin
She’s the only reason I beat Palmer lol
3/5?
I have enough gems to pity her by mext week
hopefully 1/5 is enough for palmer
1/5 is enough for Palmer but you need units like Rei and SSA Cynthia to carry her
would nc rosa , lodge elesa, lodge skyla clear for both ebes part 2 be low investment enough to worth sharing?
I can make my rosa gridless to emulate 1/5
as long as it's an unique clear no need to worry about it
Anything is worth sharing as long as it isn't shared already
Is there a way to do the Anabel UB with the SST Red, NC Silver, and NC Blue if Blue doesn't Head Start 1? I've seen some clears with that team but it seems like usually they have HS1 for early first sync



