Skyla here to save us again
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
spiral summit
rich heron
Special opponent?
frail oriole
Skyla supremacy
rich heron
Opponent is special right
spiral summit
I think they will be mix like Hilda
rich heron
Where did u find this
spiral summit
My group have it
snow spruce
wait I just realized that Hilda EB has Sentry Entry x3 only on sides, but NOT on center.
But Hilbert EB has Wise Entry x3 on all 3 (and still has the exact same HP on the center) .. wtf
why this difference when otherwise they are almost identical
spiral summit
That maybe bc Cheren is mix attacker so they dont want to F with his EBE
But Bianca in the other hand
valid raft
That maybe bc Cheren is mix attacker so they dont want to F with his EBE
I think Fly is a backup plan in case mid is killed but sides live and used to avoid Giga Impact and Hyper Beam
spiral summit
Idt side live with Cheren dmg lol
But if that the case, why sides have Sentry Entry ?
That really bad for Cheren’s Fly
slate light
might be to disuade, uh
idk, lodge skyla? 
modern portal
why this difference when otherwise they are almost identical
Because they're showing Cheren has amazing spread damage with his AoE DPS + EXR Sync, and that he can do amazing burst damage with Fly.
torpid chasm
I completed the extreme battle with that team, ngl Summer Hilda was impressively strong here
You need to wait until Emboar is at +6 in speed and Topsy Turvy it so it goes to -6, then for the right side and gg
shrewd marten
might be to disuade, uh
idk, lodge skyla? <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200>
I mean that checks out
Ur gonna murder the sides by existing with cheren
modest orchid
I really hate that they gave them all friend care and resilience. I can understand resilience I guess so you can’t just flinch lock but did they really need friend care if you can’t flinch lock anyway?
shrewd marten
its so you have to get rebuff
modest orchid
I mean I understand it’s to force rebuff I just have a problem with them forcing rebuff lol
gritty vine
Does anyone know the clear sheet for Annabel UB
Somehow I need more power other then nc blue Ss red and nc silver
shrewd marten
Somehow I need more power other then nc blue Ss red and nc silver
i think ssred is where ur lacking
also it s in the pins
gritty vine
I don’t know how to access the pins
gritty vine
Also I have a max sync nuke build for red
shrewd marten
go to settings
yes the pins are in the settings
dont ask
also i think ssred probably is a bit lacking in damage, ya got anyone better?
shrewd marten
sstr
ya cant say ss with a man with that many outfits
but anyway i think soemone has done that team?
so browse the list for it
gritty vine
They have I’m trying to copy them
shrewd marten
ic
gritty vine
annabel and Thornton are the UB I’m struggling at the moment
Currently attempting Annabel
granite fulcrum
Would this be where I can ask for help in the extra missions in the story modes?
granite fulcrum
I'm more talking about the Story event "Chase the Nothern Wind". Where I need to beat it with water/ice types with losing more than 1 sync pair and another clear with a Jhoto sync pair without losing more than 1 member
true lagoon
oh
kris and pryce
pryce doesnt do much he just exists to fulfill the ice type condition
granite fulcrum
I do have them, but I think the problem is that my old duo that usually can clear things is not working
true lagoon
what do you mean
granite fulcrum
Sycamore/Xerneas and N/Reshiram usually got the job done, but not this time
true lagoon
the battle challenge itself isnt terribly difficult but trap is annoying
granite fulcrum
It isn't, but I have not played in so long
granite fulcrum
I have these pairs and am not sure who else to use.
modest orchid
Think Elaine, Lodge Skyla, OG Skyla would be workable? My big problem I’ve been having with Anni is how inconsistent the interference is
modest orchid
Well I finally managed it lol
modest orchid
I maybe could have worked something out with other units, but 300 gems is not worth wasting my whole weekend over haha
stoic lake
at least its better than pulling because you cant clear the stage lol
plus the gems are nice :)
modest orchid
I would not pull just to clear the stage, the gems are certainly nice though
I’ve been thinking about it and I do need some rebuffers and other anti gimmicks so I might pull for Bianca. That would make my life on her EBE a lot easier
stoic lake
yeah, some people would though after not being able to clear the EBE, part of the reason why i picked up SS Glad when I was just starting
modest orchid
I beat his EBE without him then ended up deciding to pull for him lol
stoic lake
I’ve been thinking about it and I do need some rebuffers and other anti gimmicks...
my exact logic on her too lmao, i'll try to resist pulling so I can save for anni though
modest orchid
THAT was frustrating
stoic lake
I beat his EBE without him then ended up deciding to pull for him lol
lmao, his sucked withou ssglad
i was to material poor to try doing his f2p clear either
modest orchid
I like Bianca and Cheren as characters too I just feel like I’m fine without another flying striker (I know he’s a tech but is he actually)
stoic lake
yeah, If i can celar his EBE with lodge skyla, do I even need him lmao
modest orchid
Bianca can fill a lot more niches than just funny numbers damage dealer and that’s why I am considering her
stoic lake
my fighting type roster is very weak though for the striker (actually tech) bianca
stable tundra
Bianca is more like a support tbf
stoic lake
bianca is absolutely a tech or support than a striker lol
modest orchid
Ig*
stable tundra
That's exactly my situation but i also have NC Rosa
stoic lake
nc rosa and bianca seems really solid with defensive unova circle
modest orchid
Bea can already handle most on type content too so I would just want Bianca for her stuff other than the damage
I don’t have NC Rosa or the EBE could probably have been solved with Anni N and Lodge Elesa lol
And it would have been a lot less frustrating
stoic lake
i have no clue how i'm gonna do Hilbert EBE
modest orchid
Idek the gimmicks
modest orchid
Yeah that seems a little obnoxious. Skyla has innate Haste but she’s not loving the special moves
stoic lake
slopponent sync means double damage if your speed is -1 or lower i think lmao
and 50% extra damage on their moves
also if you miss, they have slippery slope, which increases their evasiveness even further on top of agile entry increasing evasivess at start of battle
marble flume
Oh, so much for NC Blue in the upcoming EBE then
stoic lake
didnt even see x evasion all 
marble flume
Ice weakness = ded inmediately
This might actually be a Hilda + Grapploct = stonks kinda stage, huh
stoic lake
This might actually be a Hilda + Grapploct = stonks kinda stage, huh
unironically lol
frail oriole
Make her tank
stoic lake
yeah, i might have to pass on hilbert EBE, i dont really have anything to answer for the gimmicks :(
but we'll see when she releases ig
marble flume
Why did it have to be status change-only
marble flume
I wanna run C. Elesa 
marble flume
I guess it’s really gonna be NC Leaf + SS Hilda + Festival Hilda for me, huh
stoic lake
here are my unovan pairs
1/5 bellelba and og skyla can cover the speed debuffs and survivability
but then i dont have anyone to rebuff and dps lmao
shrewd marten
Og skyla speed debuff?
stoic lake
talking about hilbert's EBE, where he debuffs speed sorry lol
skyla can user her TM to increase party speed so that chase down and slopponent sync dont activate
modest orchid
Hey at least the sides don’t need rebuff on this one
stoic lake
i did do hilda's EBE part 1 with no rebuff lmao
so if I can flinch right before a strong nuke or something then its possible
modest orchid
I used NC Red + Ghetsis for part 1 and that went fine but unfortunately off regioning w/o Irida was not in the cards for NC Red on part 2
shrewd marten
Part 1 is drastically easier
stoic lake
emmet at 3/5 has piercing gaze but i dont have those materials :(
shrewd marten
Piercing gaze?
stoic lake
never miss
shrewd marten
How does that help
stoic lake
hilbert gets a lot of evasiveness
modest orchid
All of the evasiveness
stoic lake
bianca cant miss
modest orchid
She can’t miss
stoic lake
passive
modest orchid
I’m about to grid Anni N for Piercing Gaze and Blue Flare Pep Rally and call him Bianca
stoic lake
ye, i'm probably screwed
at least for part 2
might be able to fumble my way through part 1
modest orchid
It’s 300 gems it’s nbd if you can’t get part 2 honestly
shrewd marten
I’ll see if I can find a f2p clear
That doesn’t involve pretending u bypass accuracy check with luck
I need to actually try it out though so it may be a while
stoic lake
the only gen 5 units with piercing gaze are SS N, Anni N, Emmet, and Alt Iris
modest orchid
Hey I have 3 of those nice
frail oriole
Lodge elesa buffs accuracy
modest orchid
Unfortunately my Iris is not in a position to clear any content lol
stoic lake
units with haze
rotund oasis
Champ iris?
modest orchid
Champ yeah
rotund oasis
Im gonna try to use champ iris for nc bianca's ebe
modest orchid
I was very excited for her on release but have never candied
So she’s 2/5 because I got a second copy from mix over the last few months lol
rotund oasis
Ou
stoic lake
haze shenanigans might be possible with lodge gladion, since he could prob survive
and hilbert can only use evasion all once
and can only be increased if you miss
modest orchid
How early does he use it
stoic lake
idk his pattern yet
modest orchid
Do we have any clue
stoic lake
we'll see in a couple hours though
modest orchid
Probably before first sync or immediately following
modest orchid
Idk if it’s a scripted move either for Hilda
stoic lake
problem with lodge glad is he doesnt increase speed :(
brycen man seems really solid honestly
guard spec prevents stat down + rebuff
and spatk/spdef debuff if necessary
still nothing to answer to evasion though
stoic lake
ye, but idk how accuracy is calculated, esp when put up against evasion
rotund oasis
Vs hilda ebe?
stoic lake
hilberts
modest orchid
No Hilbert
rotund oasis
Oh. Hrm
shrewd marten
ye, but idk how accuracy is calculated, esp when put up against evasion
Wdym it just cancels
rotund oasis
Im planning this
stoic lake
brycen man for dps and rebuff, lodge gladion (or 3 star brycen ???) for haze, and OG Skyla might be able to clear
unfort i wont be able to test since i dont have brycen man :(
modest orchid
Do you have lodge Elesa +2 accuracy should just ignore the evasion
If you don’t miss it won’t go up
Horrible design btw
rotund oasis
Rosa and Iris have No speed drops. Iris to debuff them especially sp.atk for some reason
stable tundra
when does he use it
modest orchid
+2 accuracy is enough to ignore though I’m pretty sure
stable tundra
yeah it is
shrewd marten
Yes it cancels out
stoic lake
oh? +2 accuracy cancels out +4 evasion?
i really dont get how accuracy is calculated lmao
stable tundra
he buffs to +4?
stoic lake
he has agile entry
shrewd marten
Then fish for refreshed
modest orchid
Ew
rotund oasis
Do they use special attacks a lot?
modest orchid
Looks like it yeah, her special defense boosts will help there too
rotund oasis
Or is it mixed?
stoic lake
blizzard icy wind, giga impact, and icicle spear
so mixed
5 hits guaranteed on spear because ofc
rotund oasis
Ew giga impact. Only once?
shrewd marten
Only one refresh need wdym
stoic lake
hopefully only under certain condions idk though
rotund oasis
Worse. +2 acc with NC Rosa pls ;-;
stoic lake
That’s while entry 1
oh true
shrewd marten
Worse. +2 acc with NC Rosa pls ;-;
Precise friendships
stoic lake
lodge elesa also has this ???
stable tundra
her x spdef all will come handy this time too
shrewd marten
Lodge elesa unironically a decent general unit
rotund oasis
Precise friendships
Isnt her tm option +1 aoe acc?
stoic lake
still dont know what i'm gonna do to fulfill all rebuff/debuff/tanking roles though
shrewd marten
Isnt her tm option +1 aoe acc?
Her grid has +1 precision pals yeah
But it is still less rng needed
rotund oasis
Hrm
shrewd marten
Cuz the entire fight ur rolling b move rng
Which can roll accuracy
And never misses
rotund oasis
This should do it i guess
stoic lake
man if only I had a fighting type striker who can fulfill support roles, add rebuff, and never miss 
||
bianca jumpscare||
marble flume
Always remember, scouting for an EBE is effectively always a loss
In order to break even you’d need to get the pair in 2 singles
stoic lake
yeah lmao, i plan on not pulling for either as I save for anni
solar stirrup
yeah lmao, i plan on not pulling for either as I save for anni
NC Cheren anni bait 😡
stoic lake
if gem counts were more consistent I would probably pull on one of these MFs
crude marten
cheren will be the best flying dps for a long time though
modest orchid
Well your wait is over lol
stoic lake
I have 41k gems rn and need 109.8k to guarantee 3 pities
modest orchid
Lodge Skyla is plenty for on type stuff
solar stirrup
I have 41k gems rn and need 109.8k to guarantee 3 pities
I got half your amount
solar stirrup
Lodge Skyla is plenty for on type stuff
I got her cause i was bored lol
stoic lake
I have 41k gems rn and need 109.8k to guarantee 3 pities
if each month gives 20-25k I'll have enough for anni lol
which is what the pattern seems to be rn
solar stirrup
im half hoping summer is a miss for units
then ill live
If its galar neo champions for july bait, even better
stoic lake
i know anni typically gives more but i doubt it would be able to cover 30k gems if I have to pity bianca
shrewd marten
One
solar stirrup
just pity
shrewd marten
Yes
modest orchid
I really need SS Kris I have no good rain units. If I have to pity Bianca I should have enough by the end of July for SS Kris guaranteed but I want Kabu and Larry too so life is hard
shrewd marten
I only got a pitied cheren
solar stirrup
or no
stoic lake
I spent 30 of my 40k for cheren
damn, now you only have 39,970 gems :(
shrewd marten
solar stirrup
I only got a pitied cheren
😭
shrewd marten
You think I’m LUCKY ENOUGH
stoic lake
lmao
shrewd marten
TO GET HIM WITHIN THE PITY PULLS
And like I can feel arven breathing down my neck
modest orchid
Bianca is gonna be second multi and I’m gonna be gold
solar stirrup
I got nc silver first multi
stoic lake
i got nc silver last multi lol
shrewd marten
Ss gladion pity
stoic lake
and then pitied for hugh (dont make fun of me PLEASE)
solar stirrup
i got nc silver last multi lol
nc leaf and sst did me like that
modest orchid
I think I got NC Silver first multi too I wasn’t going to pull him at all but decided to on a whim
shrewd marten
Ncleaf pity, ncred 330, blue 250ish
solar stirrup
and then pitied for hugh (dont make fun of me PLEASE)
based hugh fan? respectable
shrewd marten
Geeta 200ish
stoic lake
based hugh fan? respectable
i was a new player and wanted hugh cause he looked funny when I couldve had a 2/5 MF lmao
shrewd marten
Not that it matters I have candies
modest orchid
Master fairs I’m either candying or keeping at 1/5
shrewd marten
I just don’t have gems
modest orchid
Ain’t no point betting on some 1% chance at a pull
stoic lake
Master fairs I’m either candying or keeping at 1/5
absolutely, i just got him on the multi that was the pity lol
shrewd marten
Well I’m still below below average
Or is it above average
You get the idea
I need arven to come in one tenfold
And then I get bianca quicker than literally min roll rng
stoic lake
make him a cracked dark support
stoic lake
where his TM gives sandwiches or something lol
low coral
Oof, so close to a pre-sync off-type vs Anabel
crude marten
3/5 chase?
low coral
4/5
low coral
Yes
I missed one Thundershock by mistake
Went for Blizzard + Ice Wind when Arcanine got KOed, but I hesited instead of going asap and didn't get the gauge back in time
So it can be improved still
crude marten
what was your rotation, chase first sync?
low coral
Yes
crude marten
i think you can greed on red taking first sync and see how it’ll go
shrewd marten
Fluid fort
low coral
HS1 on Irida and Chase, open with Blizzard / Irida's TM / Thunder Shock
crude marten
Fluid fort
its more for side denial
low coral
Follow with Red's TM with MPR, Icy Wind, and Thunder Shock on Ninetales, queue Sync before Ninetales gets a requeue
Chase has Adrenaline 1 on grid + Sprint EX, quad queue Icy Wind, Red's TM, and Chase's TM
And Red syncs
shrewd marten
No wut I mean is that shouldn’t activate
low coral
While it is a Circleless Sync, Red still turn skips Ninetales
Since that's a 8 SMUN Blizzard
shrewd marten
No use ice beam?
low coral
Actually, I don't remember if I went for Blizzard or dual Ice Beam on Ninetales
low coral
post red sync?
Yeah
low coral
shrewd marten
U sure use dancing beam after is better?
low coral
Idt I can sync under Hail and Zone if I Ice Beam before
modern portal
Worth a try!
low coral
Yeah, I lose both Hail and Zone if I do before
On top of the loss in damage from B Ice Beam itself by doing it with one less sync buff, one less rebuff, no Kanto Circle, one less SMUN, and at +4 SpA instead of +6
rotund oasis
That was me trying to clear Thorton earlier.
with what team? 😮
low coral
Well, I can try to have Circle, but idt there's much of a point with Anabel's 60% endurance
shrewd marten
tru
crude marten
bice beam probably deals more damage to anabel anyway since shes not at a weakened state that early
modern portal
Yeah sides were never a problem.
Lack of offensive debuffs meant Cynthia had to deal with the offense all on her lonesome.
My attempts prior to giving Blue the Role.
low coral
Ladies and gentleman, I present to you, Anabel off-type pre-sync
valid raft
Finally
crude marten
ggs ropal 
shrewd marten
The ncred man has done it again
gritty vine
I could do Thorton tbh but I want to do it without using the rats
It’s too much work tho atm
crude marten
so nc red got presync every ub so far except lucy and argenta
@low coral do you think you can make them work in lucy
low coral
I could try
crude marten
argenta is just too annoying for them to presync
left crow
Is ncblue integral to defeat leon
crude marten
not really
plush gale
Late Video. My Choice : Champ Rosa, SS Hilda, Anniv Skyla https://youtu.be/ew-19vjuzQk?si=27GlmCL6zA8EvvJf
stable tundra
Thanks to your comp i remember 4/5 SS Hilda has team acc buffs on her moves
stable tundra
No status change unit tho
stable tundra
stable tundra
NC Blue gonna has a rough time
stable tundra
Hilda can confuse
Hilbert cleansing it right after: hello
stable tundra
Yes, he cleanses it after every move
shrewd marten
Either time it correctly or use ncblue
shrewd marten
Yes, he cleanses it after every move
Isn’t it only side Mon
stable tundra
Ice weak tho
valid raft
Yes, he cleanses it after every move
Resilience?
rich heron
shrewd marten
Oh wait hilbert
rich heron
Wish I had Rosa
valid raft
Where's the moveset of Bianca's EB?
rich heron
spiral summit
Who dont have evasion debuff or accurate buffer : suffering
spiral summit
L Elesa should be good here
valid raft
To connect to Max Conductivity
valid raft
Where's the sides?
rich heron
I just found this one by scrolling up
rich heron
I don't even get new version events there
Sometimes
Wait I found it
@valid raft
valid raft
<@333910951847919616>
That's wrong 
rich heron
Wht
rich heron
Opponent is special
valid raft
How many Skyla’s Tm mpr you need ?
Yes
Haste LS be like
rotund oasis
oh they've got Double Drop. ew.
spiral summit
Haste LS be like
Yeah, but that only for who can end this suffering fast
valid raft
Time for X Speed All+ MPR on NC Blue
spiral summit
F2P will suffer between Vigi and Haste
rich heron
Hilda has her weakness zoroark with snarl
spice swift
Should I candy SS Hilda to 4/5 for this fight
rich heron
Doesn't Skyla already have haste?
spiral summit
You have anyone apply rebuff yet ?
valid raft
Maybe something like this:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2103/14500?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=21010101&g=AAECAwQFBggLDhAVFxgZGhwv
rich heron
valid raft
It only immunes freeze
rich heron
Ice guard on nc leaf 
spiral summit
Do you think Elesa good here ?
valid raft
Lodge?
spiral summit
Base
valid raft
That depends on the team
spiral summit
At least she has Haste in grid so maybe ?
spice swift
What if put Haste LS on all the pairs
rich heron
Hilda has downside up if u thinking to use her
spice swift
Then you need to deal with Crit
I mean well it's just reset heavy then
valid raft
Hilda has downside up if u thinking to use her
Snarl and Dark Pulse say hello
rich heron
Snarl and Dark Pulse say hello
Snarl is problem
spiral summit
Hilda has downside up if u thinking to use her
I’m thinking about f2p now
valid raft
So wait. Hilda is to counter SSA Cynthia and/or the Rats while Hilbert is meant to counter NC Blue. Do you see what DeNA is doing?
valid raft
But EQ didn't even stop the rats in Hilda's EB
spice swift
Is there nothing that can break Resilience
valid raft
None
rich heron
Dena's being a scumbag!
True
spice swift
Omw to alert Obama
rich heron
Greedy dena
spiral summit
At least i know i can beat this for 600 gems to yolo Bianca
rich heron
I need those 600 for pulling cheren 😭
valid raft
I wanna see SC Diantha off-region 
spice swift
Greedy dena
Don't let DeNA hear you later they release PBL, or Pair Battle League
rich heron
spice swift
Where you have to buy a "Masters Fair Ticket" and go to Sendai
So you can get a Necrozma pair
spice swift
You can also wait till the "Global Masters Fair" and do a new form of co-op battles with up to 20 people in a lobby, but you can only do it with something called a "Co-op Pass", which you get one free every day but you can also buy it with $2 real money
valid raft
The only good thing is that these EBs don't have Unflappable
So you can cheese with NC Blue even if he's ice-weak
spice swift
I wonder if NC Blue will work anyway
Probably just needs a bit of RNG and should be fine
valid raft
He does have Impervious so he doesn't have to worry about speed drops
valid raft
And he has X Speed All+ along with MPR
spice swift
If I can't finish the battle I'll just wait till the UBE to reclaim my 300 gems
rich heron
He was abt to die in Hilda battle
valid raft
But would you rather that over the offensive debuffs?
spice swift
Since it's Ice weak anyway
rich heron
If Skyla didn't helped in flinching
I would be dead
spiral summit
I need those 600 for pulling cheren 😭
Me who know i can get that 600 gems 
valid raft
Is Zoroark the only one that debuffs your speed?
rich heron
Me who know i can get that 600 gems <:LucianScheme:992636877746217080>
Gimme that rosa 😭
spice swift
Maybe I should support cake Tini
stable tundra
Is Zoroark the only one that debuffs your speed?
spatk too with Snarl
spice swift
For an easier clear
valid raft
spatk too with Snarl
Doesn't matter
spiral summit
They really said F Ghetsis
frail oriole
Me who know i can get that 600 gems <:LucianScheme:992636877746217080>
Me who can use the same team
rich heron
Dena you don't need to make ebe so hard
We can use these new pairs in cs also
frail oriole
Ngl
rich heron
valid raft
So you technically only need to use X Speed All+ with NC Blue only once
On the first sync cycle at least
frail oriole
Ghetsis feels so bad to use after using SS n
rich heron
Tru
valid raft
Bulldoze and icy wind
Do you remember the move rotation I wrote?
rich heron
Do you remember the move rotation I wrote?
Nope
valid raft
Or at least the previous iterations of it
frail oriole
There are always worse
valid raft
Assuming you don't flinch, left side only does X Attack All on the 1st sync cycle
First Sync Rotation:
Turn 1 (Mid): Move 1
Turn 2 (Right): Move 1
Turn 3 (Mid): Move 2
Turn 4 (Left): Move 1
Turn 5 (Mid): Move 1
Turn 6 (Right): Move 2
Turn 7 (Mid): Sync Move
Second Sync Rotation:
Turn 8 (Mid): Move 5
Turn 9 (Left): Move 2
Turn 10 (Mid): Move 3
Turn 11 (Right): Move 3
Turn 12 (Mid): Move 4
Turn 13 (Mid): Move 6
Turn 14 (Mid): Sync Move
rotund oasis
so Eva+2 is Second Sync Rotation?
rich heron
Eva?
valid raft
Evasion
valid raft
Slippery slope is all allies?
Self only
valid raft
So one the 1st sync rotation, the enemy drops your team's speed by 4
Which means, you need to use NC Blue's X Speed All+ at least twice. But since there are no more AoE attacks after Icy Wind, you don't need to use it twice until you KO mid and need to hope for X Speed All+ MPR
spice swift
Are you not using Skyler
valid raft
Gonna use the bird and the rats
spice swift
I'm thinking something like NC Blue/SS Hilda/Skyler
stable tundra
https://youtu.be/1JHGUqTtN_w?si=ZJqVO7pNveXmpPcq the first NC Cheren team on Anabel
Kinda predictable tho
low coral
That was honestly much closer than what I would expect from a unit of Cheren's caliber
stable storm
tbf he's basically the only damage in the team
low coral
But the partner difference can weight a lot
stable storm
other top tier dds usually have enablers that deal a lot more damage so I understand it being closer
hearty cedar
bianca cant miss
Wait, she has sure hit?
low coral
other top tier dds usually have enablers that deal a lot more damage so I unders...
Well, yeah, but that's why I'm saying of Cheren's caliber
stable tundra
Wait, she has sure hit?
unless her accuracy is lowered her attacks never miss
the B Move has sure hit tag too
low coral
We have clears using Egg Lapras
hearty cedar
unless her accuracy is lowered her attacks never miss
Oh are we talking about sacred sword's "ignores stats" effect?
stable tundra
yes
stable storm
gordie, lodge Skyla and skyla seem like they would be able to clear Hilbert?
stable tundra
likely not possible, because the team has no spdef buff and reliable counter to eva
Hilbert is mainly special
stable storm
oh Hilbert is special
then what about lodge elesa
she has-evasion and gives acc
she also has some healing
stable tundra
she is not a good tank, if you intend to replace OG Skyla
stable storm
and sp def buff
stable tundra
and the team doesn't answer for speed debuffs
hearty cedar
I didnt check the gimmick so tell me something, would nc.rosa + ss hilda + nc.nate be able to beat hilbert ebe?
stable storm
can't you just give haste to everyone?
stable tundra
I didnt check the gimmick so tell me something, would nc.rosa + ss hilda + nc.na...
this is likely to work, if SS Hilda is 4/5 and gridded for team acc up it's more reliable
stable tundra
can't you just give haste to everyone?
then the team is vulnerable to crit buffs from pre second sync onwards
stable tundra
Oh the stage has acc debuffs?
eva up
stable storm
it should still be possible.You just need to avoid crits
gordie could also give a partner max guard
stable tundra
L Skyla doesn't have much firepower to clear Hilbert. remember that Hilbert has 100k+ HP
stable tundra
gordie could also give a partner max guard
you should worry about his survivability first
i don't doubt the team can work, just listing the issues out
because Hilbert is more tricky to counter
stable storm
I am gonna see if I can fix out the comp issues
there's no f2p rebuffer other than gordie right?
stable tundra
yeah, there is none
stable tundra
in f2p comps she already struggles to clear Hilda
stable tundra
iirc it takes advantage of Gosmack 4 too
hearty cedar
Good thing nate only needs to hit 1 more per cycle
stable storm
maybe marshal?
hearty cedar
Will give me peace of mind while I brute force those evas buffs
spiral summit
Marshal very weak again special
crude drumBOT
Weak: 
General Pool
spiral summit
Look at his SpDef
stable tundra
even with NC Rosa i have a slight doubt on him beating
and he doesn't have crit buffs with Skyla
spiral summit
I rather use Hilda or Elesa with NC Rosa
At least they dont care about speed debuff
And their EX should be help clearing side
But with good gear and flinch luck, i can see Marshal clear this
valid raft
Time for another batch of suffering
stoic lake
Wait, she has sure hit?
I was wrong actually, I was thinking of NC Cherens passive that moves never miss, but yeah, only her b move cant miss.
solar stirrup
Can lodge skyla, anni skyla(1/5), and nc rosa (1/5) beat Hilda ultra hard?
If so, what investment is needed?
valid raft
Doesn't Hilbert have WE x3?
stoic lake
Can lodge skyla, anni skyla(1/5), and nc rosa (1/5) beat Hilda ultra hard?
thats probably good, covers the rebuff and damage, idk how good NC Rosa is at survivability
solar stirrup
thats probably good, covers the rebuff and damage, idk how good NC Rosa is at su...
Her survivability is good
Problem is, without defense buffs, she can't tank as well in longer fights
And I don't have master healer potions
Oh yeah and hope for lucky sleep proc but that's like only twice in 1 fight
lunar sedge
Fucking -2 acc blizzard actually hit Emmet before the last rock slide but wooo submas clear 
valid raft
I didn't even realize Ash has Haste LMFAO
stoic lake
i dont think part 2 is possible with this team 😔
atleast not with major luck
or investment ofc
stoic lake
the sides also have evasion all btw lmao
and precision pals, so accuracy debuffing isnt even as good as hilda
rotund oasis
SS Hilda has her EXR, she still get killed by Blizzard with -6 SP.ATK
at least i seal the deal with Champion Iris Sync Nuke
formal crescent
Do I need type rebuff for the extreme battles? I have NC Blue, NC Red and Adaman but I don't know if a unovan sync pair would be better
stable tundra
do you have NC Rosa?
stoic lake
unovan sync pairs have 5x stats, but off region is still possible
formal crescent
Nope
stable tundra
you really need rebuff to shut down their gimmicks
valid raft
Holy yikes, Blue is really suffering
stoic lake
part 2 was doing a lot more from that first icicle spear
rotund oasis
Holy yikes, Blue is really suffering
they throw a lot of special attack ice moves so yeah ;<
rich heron
First one was like very less dmg
Nc blue survived first sync very good
rotund oasis
https://youtu.be/wRV7dX4fI0E t's a rough battle.
stable tundra
part 1 is much easier than part 2
low coral
Holy yikes, Blue is really suffering
Are you really gonna try to tank with him? Lol
He's lucky if he even survives the Icicle Spear
valid raft
If his HP was high enough, he would've survived Hilbert's sync
low coral
Extending after it is another challenge
valid raft
Flinching is pretty much a bad idea too
valid raft
Does he even take the first turn without a flinch?
He can
crude kite
are there any f2p clears or teams for hilbert and hilda?
rich heron
I am tanking with Skyla
valid raft
Having Ice Guard is definitely a must
Unless you get lucky with para procs
Like I did once
Unironically, both Red and Blue are the weak links
cosmic token
My 2nd run.
valid raft
When is next LG running?
silver spruce
Friday
valid raft
This Friday at June 7?
silver spruce
I believe so
left crow
Oh my god fuck you
I could've cleared it without casualties if it weren't for freeze and Crit
rich heron
My 2nd run.
Howwww
left crow
Does hilbert have WEx2
valid raft
Does hilbert have WEx2
WE x3
left crow
Oh explains why anni couldn't do shit
cosmic token
Howwww
Was easy actually.
NC Blue had Impervious from grid, VHilda has Downside Up, SC Rosa had Haste and debuffs him along with NC Blue. Just Flinch on Turn 1 and make sure NC Blue has full heath when Hilbert Syncs.
rich heron
I see
Ohk
dim lance
I used Lenora/Marshal but some rebuffer is probably mandatory
stoic lake
did the SBE and it was easy at least
valid raft
Ok, NC Blue's flinch is an actual hinderance
strong dock
I'm actually going insane I have no clue what comp to use the closet (not even that close) is NC blue, SS N, and dojo hilda
valid raft
If I didn't run out of ET, then I could've won
But I had to use it because of Precision Pals
crude marten
a bit sad i couldnt improve palmers clear time with bianca, it is what it is
inner heath
Pretty chill run, they did no dmg 
lenora OP 
valid raft
I need Pinpoint Entry, but I need to farm deluxe cookies
inner heath
Lenora has team pinpoint entry 
useless for Iris anyway
cosmic token
This is why I loved SC Rosa in this EBE. Who needs Acc buffs when you can just get rid of his Evasion?
stable tundra
Marshal died because i got the wrong grid on Rosa 🤡
candid crescent
solar stirrup
Wow
hardy peak
whats the neo champion battle challenge that has iris fight restrictions?
solar stirrup
What
hardy peak
also nicee
low coral
a bit sad i couldnt improve palmers clear time with bianca, it is what it is <:L...
I'm feeling kinda limited with her
solar stirrup
You're good 👍
Now I need to figure out how I'm going to clear Hilda with lodge skyla
valid raft
Godfuckingdamnit, Blizzard critted on Red
low coral
Bianca's teams are not feeling super well rounded to me
gentle wharf
Alright BiaNCa secured, just gotta think of a team to beat Palmer with her…
hearty cedar
Hop really needs that field ex
gentle wharf
No Rei no CHop
hearty cedar
Alright BiaNCa secured, just gotta think of a team to beat Palmer with her…
I already did with rosa + bianca + hop. Maybe replace hop with nc.nate
gentle wharf
Don’t have NCate either haha
crude marten
Bianca's teams are not feeling super well rounded to me
yeah exactly this
oh well maybe theyre cooking something for sometime in the future
hardy peak
I figured rosa hop bianca would have been perfect
or ssa cynthia rei bianca
something like that
round vale
Any ideas for Bianca's EBE without NCBianca?
rotund oasis
post unova roster 😮
round vale
Ok. She had DR.
eternal yacht
hello teachers I'm stuck with Hilbert part 2 and need assistance
my relevant units :
fight is cynthia/hop
unova only good unit is nc rosa, mid units include skyla torn roxie and iris alt
stable tundra
grid Hilda for Team Precision Strike to counter eva up too
eternal yacht
is it even possible to beat hilbert with these or should i quit
stable tundra
hello teachers I'm stuck with Hilbert part 2 and need assistance
my relevant u...
can you show us your entire Unova roster?
fresh fiber
What could be a good pick against Extreme Battle Event Hilbert that doesn't use Meloetta/NC Bianca/Shaymin?
stable tundra
do you have 4/5 SS Hilda?
fresh fiber
1/5 😬
stable tundra
hmm, how about rebuff units like NC Blue, NC Leaf...?
fresh fiber
hmm, how about rebuff units like NC Blue, NC Leaf...?
I assume those are the Kanto birds
stable tundra
yeah
fresh fiber
I have those at 1/5
stable tundra
can try with NC Rosa, Alt Iris and OG Skyla
eternal yacht
ok
fresh fiber
can try with NC Rosa, Alt Iris and OG Skyla
Is there anything I can do with that minus Rosa?
stable tundra
I have those at 1/5
ig try OG Skyla, SS Hilda and NC Leaf
fresh fiber
hmm
stable tundra
no guarantee tho
fresh fiber
which part of the 4/5 of Hilda is the benefit
wary hemlock
rip
fresh fiber
Hostile Environment 3 and Team Precision Strike 9?
stable tundra
Hostile Environment 3 and Team Precision Strike 9?
the latter
valid raft
2 fucking times did Red get fucking critted by 0 crit buff Blizzard
hardy peak
nc bianca cant clear
solo? or duo? pls im coping
fresh fiber
ig try OG Skyla, SS Hilda and NC Leaf
I assume not Iris instead
wary hemlock
yea
cant clear
im using nc bianca geeta and ssa cynthia
the problem is the animation eats so much time that zone runs out
eternal yacht
can try with NC Rosa, Alt Iris and OG Skyla
iris alt dies after a while maybe I need to put vigilance on her
opp has 50% health while she dies
river prawn
the problem is the animation eats so much time that zone runs out
That team had no chance of winning even outside that
Palmer needs fat damage
river prawn
Swap Geeta
stable tundra
iris alt dies after a while maybe I need to put vigilance on her
yeah ig that's the issue
river prawn
i was thinking sc diantha but then the animation problem
SC Diantha is so much better
round vale
Thanks Gakon. After a couple tries I was able to clear it.
Although only SSHilda survived with 20% but that's another issue.
wary hemlock
ok i tried sc diantha
rich heron
He flinched opponent at his 3rd move time post sync
fresh fiber
the latter
Thanks for the suggestion, OG Skyla tanked well, NC Leaf gave rebuff/sun/lowered stats as needed, and Hilda swept all of them after 4 potions were thrown around
stable tundra
congrats!
agile wave
Nc bianca is bad in UB?? 
silver spruce
I’m surprised to not see og n showing up
silver spruce
Nc bianca is bad in UB?? <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
She’s not as good as Rei for that specific stage
gentle wharf
UB not EB
stable tundra
i think you meant UB
agile wave
Oh yea.. Sorry mb
rich heron
Ub
valid raft
That Giga Impact is enough to kill Morty from full HP with maxed defense and -6 attack from Hilbert, holy hell
rich heron
NC rosa being unova ontype carrying two ebe's
Meanwhile NC BLUE:
rich heron
Zapdos survived at 1 hp after their sync
magic moat
Haha! First try!
Take that, Hilbert!
velvet raven
Tough lol, first try though luckily
rich heron
And shout to Skyla too for being so good F2p support
low coral
Oh yeah @valid raft Blue / Red / Steven look to be the way to go
gentle wharf
low coral
But you gotta flinch turn 1, preferably
gentle wharf
Nope
valid raft
Steoxys?
wary hemlock
3/5?
gentle wharf
Nope
wary hemlock
focus on nuke multiplier
silver spruce
That’s your issue
wary hemlock
no wonder
silver spruce
No 3/5 no nuke
radiant edge
you can clear this w/o MF units
tho SS N requires at least 4/5 with some additional energy expansion
mine really needed Peak Readiness 9 + Dirty Sync 6 to clear b4 2nd sync move.
silver spruce
3/5?
jaunty light
you guys think this is doable for part 2? 
agile wave
What if u could replace keldeo with nchop, can u beat it then?
gentle wharf
No CHop
agile wave
Suppose
jaunty light
you guys think this is doable for part 2? <:Hopium:875906112963117056>
yeah nah not even close
left crow
Jesus is no negative status change the new acute senses
stable tundra
yeah nah not even close
Don't use special dmg dealers here, due to gigantic HP and Wise Entry x3
left crow
Aside from mfs which unova pairs can inflict status change anywayd
gentle wharf
Don’t think so
stoic lake
Aside from mfs which unova pairs can inflict status change anywayd
ss hilbert and brycen man lol
wary hemlock
the fcking snorlax has that stupid critical
stable tundra
Hilbert cant lower rebuff here
jaunty light
Don't use special dmg dealers here, due to gigantic HP and Wise Entry x3
ah no wonder
stoic lake
Hilbert cant lower rebuff here
yep, so brycen man is the only unovann non MF that can apply rebuff here lmao
crude marten
@wary hemlock geeta comp not working?
left crow
Ar least n has pb
crude marten
i think she needs endurance
also endurance wont work since sides have piercing blows
i did clear with these team but not presync
crude marten
for this clear i dont think you really need good gear
gentle wharf
Wait is that 4 freaking sync powerups lol
gentle wharf
Nah I meant Palmer
crude marten
oh it was a post sync
gentle wharf
Ohh so that’s why he hits so hard post sync lol
crude marten
he gets +4 on the first one
silver spruce
Palmer is simultaneously the most fun and stupidest battle we’ve ever had
crude marten
What’s your gear and grid?
geeta and bianca cs2
ssac adr 1 so you dont have to quad
rotation
bianca tm, mortal spin, force palm
sacred sword, bmortal spin, force palm
sync
geeta tm (to bianca and fish for mpr), defensive circle, ssac tm
bianca bmove, geeta tm (to bianca)
sync
once fighting zone runs out use geeta bmove again
gentle wharf
Ooh thanks I’ll give it a go
crude marten
goodluck 
👍
wary hemlock
<@342963373815627777> geeta comp not working?
no but sc diantha comp almost worked
but snorlax left 25% before koing the whole team
gentle wharf
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=029500097000&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=...
SSACynthia just needs those tiles? lol
crude marten
SSACynthia just needs those tiles? lol
well she doesnt need heal 
ive record the last few rotation
@wary hemlock @gentle wharf
ive realized i could deny one of the sides
oh well
crude marten
basically all you need to is fish geeta tm
crude marten
rotation
bianca tm, mortal spin, force palm
sacred sword, bmortal spin, force p...
@wary hemlock
yeah you can presync i think with this team
just barely though
wary hemlock
is it cos to not run out fighting zone?
crude marten
just tm
you will still have fighting zone but any of her moves arent impactful so
her bmove is still locked until palmer attacks again
crude marten
i sent above the grid and ls
wary hemlock
oh ok thanks
crude marten
goodluck 👍
distant estuary
You don't have NC Hop?
gentle wharf
For the last time no
wary hemlock
rotation
bianca tm, mortal spin, force palm
sacred sword, bmortal spin, force p...
wait for this do i quad queue ssac cynthia?
even with adren 1
low coral
@valid raft
snow spruce
so Im guessing both rats + NC blue cannot off-region Hilbert Part 2 .. or ?
distant estuary
I'm trying with NC Bianca, NC Hop, SSA Cynthia myself but no dice... can't quad queue because fighting zone ends at last minute
low coral
so Im guessing both rats + NC blue cannot off-region Hilbert Part 2 .. or ?
Ash really isn't doing anything useful there
The stage has Wise Entry x3, it's far better to focus on Red
gentle wharf
HELL YEAH FINALLY!
Thanks man @crude marten
Alright I just need to brainstorm teams for Nita and Leon lol
crude marten
nicely done
gentle wharf
Damn that is very close
low coral
Nice, that would make it two clears
I tried a Poison approach, but it's annoying to get a fitting support
valid raft
It was the right choice to conserve Red's ET, albeit I take risks in not hitting the sides
gentle wharf
It’s a bit finicky on my end though, because it will fail if Palmer immediately Max Moves after he syncs not giving Bianca a chance to quad queue
valid raft
I might need to farm Pinpoint Entry
gentle wharf
I don’t know why he sometimes does it but sometimes doesn’t
valid raft
If SS Morty was 5/5, then Endurance would've saved him from Giga Impact
gentle wharf
The gear I used on my end fyi
No skill gear rerolling lol
I just used the premade ones
gentle wharf
Would have been easier with perfect gears
fading walrus
So how high is Bianca's circle enhancement passive? 20%?
fading walrus
Mhmh
verbal pawn
Well that was a waste of a fucking pity. Guess I’m back to waiting for Rei rerun
I got Rei from 4.5 anni free tickets! It may have a chance to reappear during 5th anni! 
gentle wharf
I can skip him now thankfully haha
… oh I just realized BiaNCa isn’t EXR
LMAO
That’s why I was having trouble
crude marten
<@1081048776006967430> thanks man
no problemo, grats for the clear
wary hemlock
i think the whole result why it went well was the SE up
that really saved the team arse
gentle wharf
Both of you guys have EXR BiaNCa?
gentle wharf
Haha that’s why I had a devil of a time