#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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the clears or?
It’s really easy with the listed pairs
it's built for SST red the main gimmick is to status them and keep ET up consistently
or else they'll sleep you
i cant wait for some crazy ahh clear that features pal dawn, somehow
Hopefully you’ll be seeing my sun clear soon
It requires so much believe refresh cuz I’m 2/5 tho so krill me
Should I record the 1/5 rat + flying rat clear
i Believe! in you
Ah yes
2/5 Morty
Either no TM mpr
Or 60 million mprs
Yee
good ole 2/5 ho-mo
good enough to warrant keeping him there
but still kind of wants 3/5+
That’s an excellent way to put it
https://youtu.be/q3pvMgqz3Dg gotta share my run here with 1/5 non EX SS Hau
Skill Gears used:
Brace...
He’s great enough that my loss averse self doesn’t wanna candy him
But man would it make life easier
i kind of want to 3/5 him if only so he's actually 3/5
he's a weird outlier amongst my limited supports in which they're either 1/5 or 3/5
or redlax who is 4/5
Easiest EB ever
Lucy is far easier
Well damn, Silver dies too quickly
Anyone have N/Zekrom clear on Leon?
I mean you could probably throw red and nc blue to carry N
The issue is he doesn’t cover the main gimmick of terrain and he can paralyze but it’s not aoe. It’s single target
ET wore off, but I still made it
I am extremely glad to have pulled on Ash. Easy clear for me.
Surely anyone who didn't even pull for Ash is regretting it?
I mean, there's also NC Blue and SST Red so yeah
Meh
You can still clear it without the rats
Even with Ash amd NC blue this still felt extremely rough had some RNG and time stuff correctly
I just used ash red and ssa Cynthia all 3/5 exrd
@dusk notch in case you wanted a full footage clear
Interesting
Well, frick... 
What is KriSS doing there?
Don't happen to own ash
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I love always having at most 1 one of the units in each team every time a new UB comes out 
The clears.
Theyre definitely legit
i mean sst on leon is the definition of free win lmao
12 and a half to be more specific
I wish I had better support though
I put Nemona, SST Red, and Sonia on the same team.
i mean that can probably work all things considered
sonia has he1 and sst has a very good nuke
same with nemona and her b move

Yea...
Would debuffs even work?
even with debuffs he's pretty ow
Way to hit my confidence pretty hard, guys.
There is also the Max Move...
Leon out of all UBs has the hardest sequence of moves to survive
Yeah Flare Blitz into Max move
The highest damage from the max move could already erase like 70% of NC Blue HP 
Is that with debuffs?
And also Blue has buffs?
It's a Support unit. It should have buffs.
Max move is relatively early so you can't really accumulate much debuffs + buffs with NC Blue
Only -1/+1 respectively since there's set up first
You could get like +4 maximum but it's only affordable if your DPS is self sufficient and someone else could provide speed while maintaining low gauge use
can someone tell me why gmax did 650 to nc blue
Max move ignores all damage reducing passives
and is that a high roll or average
Classic elesa helped me with max move survival. -1 debuff from nuzzle and light screen to further support
I thought that was G-Max Fireball?
Electrorepulsion and master passive won't help
thats max moves in general
they are not counted as regular moves

Reduces damage when the user is hit by an attack move while the terrain is Electric Terrain.
Blue (Champion) & Zapdos
Volkner & Luxray
Clemont & Magneton
Sygna Suit Piers & Toxtricity
so is ss hau not a good third option here
He is
Let’s take a crack at this dumb UB, shall we?
If you wanna suffer, yea.
They made it really hard for non electric terrain teams
God... my general Electric-type pairs wouldn't work normally.
i keep forgetting that he deletes electric terrain and at 2 sync countdown lapras uses hydro pump before i can queue electric terrain
but my ss hau isnt 3/5 so he cant nuke the first part of his hp
ugh
NC Blue gets one shotted by Max before I could heal, RIP
NC Blue with synchro heal gridded is really nice for this one
thats what i used
but he got fucking crit by the opening heat wave
and he couldnt heal in time
also when do you use fairy zone with ss hau
i mean i didnt know he would queue flare blitz into max
literally 
He later does sync into inferno
I will probably have to change my grids later, thanks for the tip~
I feel like you need some real good heal timing if you want your NC Blue to survive a bit after post sync
I personally did mine after the max move and after the sync
I guess I could do this one
Ye that's the one I went with
Sweet~
Same
In a non electric terrain team, you really have to be precise with zone uptime and status so you can survive
Ash and Blue kept being burned so I had to reset, RIP
But also wide awake ls on everyone lol
Secret third option
||Fire guard||
May as well do Status Immunity at that point
Has anyone genuinely used that on their Blue lol
Fire guard or status immunity?
Fire guard
Neat but what about on Leon?
I could see it if you run vigilance on grid or are on electric terrain
Certainly would help tank damage from non sync
Albeit I’d be more apt to run head start or adrenaline
Looks like we all have to band together to take out the undefeated champion.
I still need to figure out a duo to carry ss piers that’s not a master fair.
How is the 3rd submission for leon ub already a dup
Doc is updated
Y'all need to get creative there's already 3 runs in misc
Lucy only has 2 
Tbf, doesn't Rafa add his runs directly lol
Might not have been duped at the time
Although duped runs are the most expected thing to happen on a stage that boosts Tbolt Red of all things 
no teams without master fairs for this one huh, guess that's not surprising
some good 2 poke fair teams but they all need the zappy bird
i mean its hard as is to survive the first sync into inferno
and then theres flare blitz into max in the first cycle
We had a SS Mina Roxie and Oleana team
theres a full pf clear already
o its not on the sheet
it's new lol
We also had classic elesa ss Hau and variety mallow
They were in the replays this morning on the game
that team does have everything you'd need though just on paper
with mina's team whimsical immunity sleep isnt an issue
...or just use roxie's electric terrain lol
I think we also had Mina Hau variety Kiawe
ss hau is really good here
Power plant seems to be the biggest boon
yeah that'd work
also tech/strike nuke
Im surprised we haven’t seen Kris yet
ehh she doesn't counter the gimmicks well enough to appear this early
I was thinking her and ss piers together might be doable
Twave, synchro healing and electric terrain might be enough
Too bad she didn’t get a rôle ex when she reran
they will clear
kris and ss pier synergize quite well actually
probably need to pick up extensions from piers grid
Piers has innate so should definitely help. Probably a free clear with blue
Look at all those impossible for me clears lol
Ooof. I actually ran with Flameproof NC Blue, + his TM for big damage
Anabel scars are real. NC Blue kept being burned so i ran flameproof against Leon
Its bad enough that he max moves for his fire damage field orz
This was pretty easy. Thorton's gimmick is to keep him with a status change (aka, flinch, confusion, trap, restrain, rebuff etc.). For this task, both Leaf with her fire rebuff and Elaine with her constant status change applying counter his gimmick
Aside from that, above 60% Thorton's defense stat is tripled meaning you'd want special attackers...
New Thorton clear I made
This was so easy.
Make sure to sync with Paulo first, and use Johto Circle and let Diantha set up Rock Zone for Silver to kill the sides with a rock slide and flinch Darach. Sync second with Silver to get sandstorm again, and lastly with Diantha.
Flinch whenever you can but there's really nothing to this clear aside from just damage rush Darac...
A new Darach clear too
Is this one not in the doc already?
I checked and no
Definitely lowered the investment if it is
I adore that trio together though
It’s so much fun
They're so good
leon the unbeatable
electric weak
Paulo lowdif tanking darach is always funny
Being able to sync after first turn is fun
Well, he maybe the hardest UB
It’s close but I think Anabel takes it currently
We’ll have to see once the more diverse clears start to pop up
Hes easy with the intended team but without hes gonna be massively annoying
Well, "easy"
Yeah, without rat is a pain
Anabel is strong and has a lot of HP.
Ss piers or ss Hau make decent alternatives. The bigger issue is the support you use
Leon on the otherhand has very annoying status conditions
And the fact that he can oneshot your tank is really bad 😦
anabel, leon and to an extend argenta are a comp breaker 
@low coral did you see the ice chase run
they actually managed to presync which is really impressive
I saw it on the replay list, but I didn't watch it
Oh dang, that's actually pretty crazy
They went for +10 energy grids, right?
yeah its the same guy who did the darach and thorton probably
only for irida iirc
maybe chase?
I did Thorton, but it wasn't pre-sync, that was indeed another person
I didn't do Leon at all with the twam, I was at work
Darach, yeah, might have been replaced
I think only my Cynthia run remains
Darach's replay rotation is quite high

idt there will be any other offtype presync comp for leon as of now
the condition is too annoying and he hits quite hard
Tried off typing with Geeta, NC Blue and NC Hop, not enough dps after dropping cs2 for status immunity 
Best I got was 3x% hp iirc
Not even close
Anyone got the screenshot about Leon gimmicks? I just comeback and lmao he's busted
Check the pins
oh he is strike now
damnit i really need to give him candies now
its cakewalk and some kind of wtz multiplier right
(3) Thundering Deity Gigavolt Havoc: Power +25
(3) Thundering Deity Gigavolt Havoc: Power +25
(1) Dazzling Gleam: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Dazzling Gleam: Superduper Effective 5 - Powers up moves that are super effective.
(2) Dazzling Gleam: Whimsical Power 9 - Powers up the user's moves when the zone is a Fairy Zone.
(2) Maximum Power!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(5) Fairy Wish: Team Brain Gain 9 - Increases the Special Moves ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by 1 rank when the user's move is successful.
(1) Lithe - Prevents the user from getting paralyzed.
(1) Turbo Charge 2 - Quickly charges the move gauge when the field is Electric Terrain.
(2) Grounding Wire - Prevents the user from flinching, becoming confused, or becoming trapped when the terrain is Electric Terrain.
(2) Haste - Speed cannot be lowered.
(2) Power Induction 1 - Powers up the user's moves when the terrain is Electric Terrain.
(2) Shock Recovery 1 - Restores the user's HP whenever its Pokémon takes an action when the terrain is Electric Terrain.
(2) Weird Vibes 5 - Powers up the user's moves when the terrain is Psychic Terrain.
(2) Whimsical Acceleration 2 - Quickly charges the move gauge when the zone is a Fairy Zone.
(3) Cakewalk - The more the target's Speed is lowered, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Hunter’s Instinct - The more the target's Speed is lowered, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(3) Mind Games 9 - Lowers the target's Sp. Def by one stat rank when the user's attack move against it is successful.
(3) Morale Boost 9 - Raises the user's Sp. Atk by one stat rank when its Trainer uses a move.
(3) Power Plant - Turns the field of play's terrain into Electric Terrain after using the user's sync move.
(3) Sharp Entry 1 - Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank when it enters a battle.
(3) Team Altered Field Dodge 9 - Raises the evasiveness of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when an ally activates a weather, terrain, or zone effect.
(3) Whimsical Sync 5 - Powers up the user's sync move when the zone is a Fairy Zone.
(4) Adrenaline 1 - Reduces the sync move countdown by 1 the first time the user's sync move is used each battle.
(4) Quick Tempo - Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play the first time the user enters a battle each battle.
(5) Unfortuitous 9 - Lowers one of the target's following stats by one stat rank at random when the user's attack move against it is successful: Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, accuracy, or evasiveness.
team altered field dodge is such a hs tile lool
just slap him with Mina
maybe for his lg solos as well
yeah so with sst you have -3 every turn
if only electroweb paralyzed
that’s why you grid red for HE
what would ss hau need to clear leon except for offensive the rats and the birds
nc blue + ss hau 3/5 is a fairly easy to win core
I meant the units. I have been trying with nc rosa, chase and ss hau(all 3/5 max investment) and I am just not doing enough damage
is hau strike rolex?
yes
there are celesa and vmallow clear with him
the sides die but Leon has a good amount of hp left
how many hp left on leon
45% to sometimes not even below 60%(that's when I fail to properly queue)
should I use a better unit that buffs the entire team's defence like bellelba instead of nc rosa?
did you sync with et up
rosa kinda kills et but hau has ext
and rosa speed up your second sync
usually yes
when I am out of accel tho it gets harder. Maybe I should replace rosa with bellelba
out of curiosity, would i be allowed to submit my run if i could recapture it? (mine is the rats+bluedos, so the same combination as sceptilefan's, but I completed it with a smaller investment in units - unfortunately i wasnt recording at the time)
also someone needs to teach me how to record my poma gameplay
can you survive first sync with chase
whats your third
my third sync?
ss hau , nc rosa and Chase
i would slot a dps
isnt chase enough for offensive support
if only my only other electric dps wasn't N. Anyways thx for the advice I will wait until I get another good electric dps
if ur going for the hyper offense route with chase better to just double down no?
I like nc rosa and didn't know what else to put so I put her
you can offtype dps
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=1&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=17010601&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgcICQoMERITFBobHB0eICUmJyg&v1=026400002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=17010601&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFFx8gISIjJCgrLi8&v2=000002002500&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBggKCw0QExQVFxgu
Nvm someone beat me to the punch with a better team, instead I'll just show the pure wtfness of the grids I used
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.

I will try with ss glad since he's my best dps but I think it will fail. Why is he fire weak
what is even going on with this ash grid
also instead of skill gear i just used maxed out levelled electric gear 
oh if hes fire weak hes hella dead
yeah if you can make ss gladion survive hes a good slot
she's one of the intended units for the ub iirc. Ash ain't intended
i dont even know
but it worked
he drops spa too
i mean yeah but you cant do that for the opening heat wave and it hurts
im pretty sure bulk wise hes on the lower end for ub
so i still beat this shit with suboptimal everything and 1/5 NC Blue
yeah i think this shit is balanced
doesn't he have around 700k hp?
Didn;t they say he was the most tanky bar anahell?
he can survive that problem is im not sure if he can survive sync without proper defense buffing
leon himself isnt bulky
its the sides
no?
300k which makes it annoying to offtype
thats thorton
what they are doing is making sides bulky as fuck which is really annoying cuz they have hard hitting moves
true
does ss hau do every ub btw?
middle finger to ash users lol
his kit seems great for every ub
darach is definitely possible but the other ones are hell no
the fuck is he gonna do vs argenta
even if you nuke the center you die to the sides

but thorton hes pretty helpless palmer hes absolutely awful at
for leon not really since you can kill leon and use its sync second time with +3 and kill sides
but atp its gloria carrying not ss hau

well that didnt really happen to me
but yeah i get your point
yeah i dont think i did anything ground breaking for leon except being the only one who beat it with a 1/5 no ex role bluedos
btu hey i beat it
nc blue only pair i assume thats been used for all UB?
all that matters
all but one that uses ssa ynthia instead
doesn't ss mina do well in every ub?
idk
looks at leon ub which has zero ss mina clears
someone prob will
i think it does well in all but plamers and thorton's?
sad
not surprising cause no status con
fairy comp got gimmick checked
ice has cleared Leon I assume?
cuz chase brings para
yeah makes sense
irida actually need to grab spa drops with the usual hail/ice ext and mindgames
has Elaine cleared the ub with anyone?
I wanna see how the uber supports are doing for leon
I have seen 2 teams involving her already
there's a mono support clear with elaine
Her/2 kanto rats
Her/Iono/NC Blue
iono, her and nc blue?
oh
what about nc rosa
Maaaaaaan they want you to really be overkill with the rat team, huh? I only lost cause I ran out of ET (note that my SSTR isn’t caked)
cake him then
I still
I think this UB may have me to tbh
I just caked Rika tho and I was gonna do SS Morty, but I think plans changed lol
Will just be a while
do not have a third partner for the team im going to attempt leon with
someone told me ash
and i wonder where my ash do be at
i kinda wanna run with Ash doing a big nuke on the sides.
and the BMove for the rest hrm.
i thought sst red and nc blue would be enough
I'd definitely save B Move until under 60%, that's for sure
I can easily get the investment but dont want to at the same time
There technically is a run
yeah
In the doc my guy
but they're caked and at 3/5
ah
i just ran a semi geared up Rats x2 + NC Blue
still had to reset a while though 😦
1/5 nc blue isnt enough survivability right
you shouldnt need to cake him i think if you go terrain max move but i havent done the electric run yet so speculation
Nah, 3/5 for debuffs/synchro heal helps a ton
I went with NC Blue'
what should i put for my third partner
Yeah I doubt he needs cake, I was able to nuke mid just fine
TM + Synchro Healing + Hostile Environment + Debufffs
i could use nc leaf but she'd be a potion bot after 6+ turns
Sides were only an issue cause I ran out of ET
yeah the sides are nasty sigh
All I can say is anyone in the doc or could wait for more runs
you know its realloy not that bad
ssmorty tanks it just fine
pretty sure ncblue is about the same
i own uh 1/5 ss morty
no youre saying shes a potion bot cuz ur too scared to use sun right
you can easily use sun
NC Leaf is good here
def gonna run out of et
my idiot self is going to set sun up when he infernos
what grid for sst for et
cause i probably need refresh
is he caked
no
cake him first
Here's a question: anyone unable to debuff Speed on Leon?
My rats and electric bird
your obese rat does it
Red needs target to be paralyzed to debuff him
is Condition Shield up at that time?
sst red has shocking sslowdown, needs pralyzed targets though.
i need cake?
Oh yeah I forgor that’s how it works
Yeah you’ll run out of ET if not
yes, cake helps a lot
well they should always be paralyzed
My issue was mine is 3/5, gridded for all the ET, but no cake.
Bruh the paralysis gets cleansed, and I also save max until after 60%
not using hostile en on blue smh
I AM 
hostile environment nc blue boutta go hard 🔥 🔥
I’m not that goldfish brain
well at max its like 1 turn they not parad
not the end
unless you get giga unlucky and lose the 90% 3 times or something
but that athat point like yanno
do note that the chance to paralyze is divided when there are more than one target
so it's 30% paralyze chance on each target
Yeah I’ve paralyzed sides more than I did mid….
luck issue
Such skilled luck
This is why you reset 
Ubs are honestly a good and bad feature
i saw the ss mina/ss roxie/oleana clear in game wow that was awesome
was down to the wire
Very old players have somewhat of a challenge.
Newer players can't even participate in the slightest
content like that is necessary
frankly content is insanely boring if the barrier of entry is too low
Never forget it is only a mere 300 gems

SS Roxie being in every ub is honestly just insane
if it was more, people would complain more
Never forget
they already complain way too much
This game is incredibly generous for a gacha game, tbh
In a fandom where everyone finds a reason to complain
i just dont like the UBs that are so heavily focused on "have this unit or suffer"
i like thorton the least for that reason
its so obviously catered around a single unit
c leaf
Oh yeah Thorton was the best for me
I just wish we had more palmer like ubs
I needed no investment since I already had nc leaf
yeah exactly
palmer is still extremely restrictive
if you have her ggs u win
I love the rush of trying to kill your opponent before you die
Why does people complain about not owning nc leaf
i suffered
Did they actually skip her
yes?
the same logic applies to annable and palmer
Fair
Palmer is one of my least favs
I only beat him after getting Rei
Oh yeah isn't palmer one of the most straight forward clears
I also wish ubs gave a candy coin of each type
it's a damage race
You die or they die
a damage race isnt less restrictive
I can probably clear it with 2/5 rei, but I didn't bother
it requires high investment by definition lmfao
Have good investment or die
Never said it wasn't restrictive
i mean sure more units and more clears will come out as more units become broken but still
leon is def close in the "have this unit or suffer" territory with sst red and nc blue
but there are a bit more workarounds than thorton at least
and even then you need to strategize a bit with those two
I just like battles that focus on damage like the good old days
Oh yeah I can't really check pins rn, does anyone know a team with rei nc rosa and a third partner for palmer? (Not nc nate Riley cause they have low investment)
leaf on thorton is just haha leer spam i win
at the start
Depends on her tank
can u tell i dont have her
sure but like
thorton is not the most restrictive
you just feel it the most cuz you dont have her

Nc leaf is honestly just a spam leer few times, spam b move, then nuke for the ub
annabel is way worse
Leon is the second hardest ub imo
It would be nice if we got a candy selector for beating a ub (being able to select any 5 star candy after beating a ultimate battle)
thorton is actually on the easier side
that would make people whine even more but it would be a worthwhile reward imo
the top 3 gating are still anabel, leon and palmer
c hop, dojo gloria, geeta, c leaf, sc diantha
exactly
all have teams w c rosa and rei
is it fine if im running 1/5 nc rosa
and 2/5 rei
or no
hey quick question do you have c leaf
C leaf keeps taking a W 💀
thorton requires 1 rebuff and mixed attacking right?
yes
no

yes but ive cleared with different line ups
blud an ice zone hail team can do it
that's wayyyyy less restrictive cuz of fire units being often mixed
aint no way you can do that for annabel etc
by that you mean a sun team for anabel right?
yea
so far in terms of offtype clear, anabel and leon have the least
even palmer got a lot of offtype clear
also def debuffs
makes sense, they dissuade off typing a lot
fire is hilariously one of the types that clear leon well
but thats because leaf is broken
and he doesnt heal a billion hp in sun
how does water do against Leon?
bad
water got gimmick checked too huh
with blue maybe they can clear
wut why blue
can fairy clear with blue?
status
ssblue doesnt have status
nc blue
you do NOT have the field uptime
if youre using cerena you need a unit that carries field
i saw that tosakinto thumbnail tho so there is a way i just dont know or care about it
ssteven lana and nc blue might work
id try it but you probably need lana
nc blue stocks just rose up even more huh
always have been
from best unit in the game to best unit in the game x2
I am starting to think nc kantrio were designed with ubs in mind
he doesnt suddenly become better just because this fight is weak to electric
I am talking about him before ubs to him after ubs
youre saying that like he wasnt considered the best right from the start
cuz he was
anyone ready for nc blue to be powercreeped?
I said x2. I think my sentence implied that he went from the best unit in the game to even more best
but
he didnt
thats what im saying
his value didnt change cuz leon is in the game
Zinfogel cooked with BP Clemont, Surge and SST Red 
Weakening Leon's moves with Rain, healing, defense buffing...
Rain doesn't weaken Fire moves here

Oh gawd
Oh well, she's my strongest support that doesn't accidentally buff Leon anyways (screw you Morty).
Wait, does Sun weaken the Lapras' water moves?
No
no but ncleaf sure does
How should I time my Electric Terrain btw? I've caked my Red.
make sure you set it back up after hitting 60% on leon
he automatically dispels any wtz
Yep, it's nate-able, his field ex helps denying a powerful sync for leon. Sstr and nate contributed like 65%-35% respectively in this clear
I should have targeted butterfree first instead of lapras. Well, atleast I cleared before the memebeam hit me
Circle boosted sync and dps helped me to bring leon to 60% after 2nd sync
Potion mpr seems to disappear in ub's
*nc rosa did 50% of the damage
Done!
That First Aide 4 is really trying for SS Kris xD
How many prayers for Leon not being added in the rally we have so far? 
And SS Roxie/SS Mina/Oleana
I saw NC Blue/SS Mina/NC Serena too
Nice, haven't seen that one
That will be hell
The doc for now has no offtype clears
The combination of NC Blue and SS Mina gives all the answers to Leon's annoying gimmicks. After the first Sync with NC Blue, I find Syncing with SS Mina to be very consistent, however you do wanna sync with NC Serena once or twice to take advantage of her EXR. Her Sync can deal massive damage under the right circumstances, however, providing tha...
nc blue will open up a lot of offtype team 
But he’s Ontype
support doesnt count 
But but… furious brain, brainpower 
the thing with nc blue is he2 discharge really
Well there’s Vmallow with stun spore
yeah ive seen mallow before
Can't be worse than Palmer
Imo
And anabel
Those two force you to go hard or buy too much
Leon has at least alternatives and you can always run triple vigilance for post second sync if needed
Palmer can be solved with a couple of upgrades
and he is pretty flexible to plan out, you just need damage
Anabel and Leon will on a top of difficulty area 10
meanwhile Anabel and Leon demand specific counters
i would say Leon is the only contender with Anabel for the hardest UB
I've been trying to clear Leon wiith NC Blue, SS Steven, SS Lana but it's quite hard
Palmer is mainly a dps check that you can go around with boosts
Leon and Anabel imo are on the same level bc of team building
How do you deal with sleep ?

LS ?
yeah
i was thinking that VElio could be better than SS Lana this time because of team condition nulification
Yes, and
You actually need the right boosts
Which means spending a lot
In case your boost luck is bad
nah you just need 2 50 points boosts
you have to overspend if you want to tackle the other 2
eh EXR exists
Yeah, for who
i don't think taking account of investments into this discussion is a good idea
I mean why not

You can't assume an UB is worse than another in rally without considering not having the top UB clearers at your disposal
Ofc if my final round is support or tech boost I'll save my max invested cerena
And will hardly ever struggle
But not everyone has an invested tbolt, cerena or Rei for Leon, Anabel and palmer
we were just comparing between each UB purely with their gimmicks previously, everyone having different roster so the difficulty of them varies, not to mention the bonus roles too
that's a whole different topic
if you want to argue further, take it to #poma-lounge, we are getting offtopic here
As someone who got Palmer 12 times when I don't have Rei, I guarantee you he's really an ass to manage in most seeds if you're not getting great starting themes
Idk why it would be offtopic
But sure
I thought this was the UB discussion channel
this is not BR channel
How dfq do i suppose to survive that One shot Play Rough in Fairy Challenges
** Strenght 299 btw.
Buff your Def and debuff enemy Atk
🤯
And i think you talk about High Score Event right
Use marlon, buff your defense
Oh sht, Wrong chat, Nvm, I'm going to sleep 
Yeah I had Status Immunity on Steven and Wide Awake on Blue/Lana
Hmm, that sounds very reasonable but I wonder if terrain uptime might be an issue without extension, I felt like I had just enough with Lana as it was
This clear is rather easy, but you want some tm mpr procs.
Basically you just need to outlast Argenta and spam moves until you win. Morty is super tanky and with sun he counters her rain. Removing terrain isn't necessary because it doesn't make Argenta stronger, only rain does
First sync goes to Morty for support ex buff and longer sun duratio...
Shoving some Anni N propaganda here
They can probably beat Leon too
They're already on the successful team list fyi 
They are? Then I guess if that person didn't film, maybe I will
It should still be there if you want to check their build and replay
If it's in the excel list, there will be a vid
At least last I checked, a few hours ago
I'll check it. Hope they didn't overcap
wowie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhfc-fF54zc
BP Clemont, Lt. Surge, and SST Red 💀
I'm tempted to redo this just to show you don't need the T1 Paralysis, but I'm tired of resetting. "Just use the rats HEHE."
When Argenta released I likened her to Anabel due to pair specificity, although her difficulty isn't horrendous or anything. Leon here demands specificity AND the stage is horrendous. Easy Anabel contender.
Leon has two ...
Based comment 
I caved last Christmas and pulled for red. Bugger made me go to pity to get him. He’s happily sat at 1/5 in timeout since
Still don’t have ash. (Happily)
This team can beat thorton, darach, argenta, lucy and leon
Wishing for strike ex role on anni N so he could drops fat nukes on ub's sides
If Anni N had strike he might have been able to do Palmer
To clear sides but even then maybe not
May be or may be not
He needs too much ramping which the fire team doesnt have atm
Nc.red and ash are a special case bcuz they have insane dmg outputs
I'll try palmer ub with that team if anni N gets the strike ex role
I can probably ditch ss morty for that stage for someone like nc.rosa or ssac or chase ig
Same, I ain't using my gems for that stupid yellow rat
You would need to remove Morty for Anni N to work on Palmer, yeah
i have ash and sst red at 3/5 (red has ex role), who can be the third unit for leon ub?
Did you check the pins for clears btw?
So, anni N(with strike ex role hopefully) + victini + nc.leaf against palmer?
Guaranteed para on bolt strike finally became useful
N having piercing blows is so nice here
True
Ignores that damn passive and hits 39k per bolt strike on sides and then paras them
Ignore sides not having para here
Sides don't matter as much since they're much weaker
True
Pretty sure that nc rosa + zekrom + koko also works
My koko is 1/5 so I cant test it rn
Suggestions? 
Leon
I tried that and died pretty fast
its mostly leon’s max move KOing the support
Also grid/LS suggestions? Should I increase energy for rosa and ash? Roxie’s is alr at 66
I use fire guard on rosa
Rosa shouldn't die this quickly
Survives the max move with like 34%(fire guard doesnt work against the max move but works for other moves)
Its just the max move doing like 1k+
Also roxie wants to do a lot, because he needs status and terrain
Is her sp. defense not buffed?
Ill try it again, I think he just didnt have a status condition
Max move gets stronger if leon doesnt have a status AND a field active. Make sure to have status on him and a field effect
Also her tm and she’s doing dmg herself
Then use Roxie's max move turn 1
You need both to survive his max move
Alr ill try it
Use this grid for ss roxie so you can setup status again
Use this for ash
Hostile environment 1 will come in handy
I have her 3/5 tho
Focus on killing sides with aoe nukes. Once leon gets to 60%, setup both ET and status leon, use ash's tm "Not gonna lose", use bmove to kill leon
Also, this good for rosa?
Should I nuke with roxie or ash? She has strike cake, im guessing ash because on type
I used sstr's 50% para chance while I was using nc.nate
Ash for the most part yes
Make sure you are destroying sides as much as possible before leon drops to 60%
With sync. Focus most of your dps on leon himself
Oh so I can knock out the sides without triggering that status erasing passive 
Also uh what grids for roxie and rosa?
Wait, you have ss piers?
Yeah but 1/5
Try it with him
He doesnt have much wtz tho
He has innate ET extension 5 just like sstr
You'll need luck to proc status tho
Ideally, 3/5 ss piers should be able to destroy leon with ash
Try your luck with 1/5 ss piers
Extension units are important for this ub

After rosa got hydro pumped
No, she survived it luckily
You have fire guard on her?
Yeah
CS2 on the other 2
Wait maybe 2nd sync should go to piers not roxie, he has support cake
Idk if my grids for rosa and roxie need to be changed tho
I used this on rosa with fire guard. Use teeter dance on turn 2
Use roxie's bmove. Its equal to super effective overdrive but it also drops sp.def by 2
Roxie's bmove under ET and PZ = Roxie's super effective overdrive under ET and PZ unless you pick "overdrive poison zone ^3" node from the grid
I think ill just try this later
Try to do it like this but with nc.rosa instead of nc blue
Disclaimer:- i have seen that video yet
I suspect the issue is getting reliable status. Blue can take the pressure off of piers with discharge so he can spam his bmove. Rosa can’t spread sleep here, so piers has to take up the mantle with sludge bomb or thunder
I mean if your using a pokefair in an UB I think it’s safe to say they should be 3/5 at minimum.
1/5 ss morty in question:
I honestly cleared Thorton with 1/5 SS Hilda
I cleared Argenta with 1/5 oleana and 2/5 ssmorty
- ssroxie
Some UBs are definitely not like the others
Oh yeah my SS Morty has been 2/5 the whole time, I forgot about that
How many besides Morty were carried by a full investment masterfair?
Who was the third?
Like, if it was NC Leaf, you may very well just literally duo it, Hilda didn't really matter lol
SS Morty and NC Leaf were her teammates
oh hye thats my team
i keep not getting ssmorty refreshes
so i just wanna die
Well her upgrades don't matter much
As stage crits with piercing blows
So defence buffs are useless
i mean, TM MPR can be pretty huge ig
MPR1 isn't exactly great but if it works then it works
but thats it
that, and easy pickings is something
Not really necessary tho, maybe if you're using other pairs tho for sure with Rei, Riley and CHop 1/5 is just enough to get by
N propaganda 
Well it's not working so yeah don't bother
Penny + ss wally + ss gladion killing palmer pre sync is so fun to watch
any team ideas to beat the villain event challenge with 1 psychic and 1 dark?
this is my dark/psychic roster
can you show us your supports?
try Sycamore/Skyla, Sidney and Olympia, give the tank Vigilance lucky skill at least
with Sycamore you should grid Moonblast On a Roll to debuff spatk on mid
ok, I'll try. Thank you
barely won the battle with Sidney, sycamore , viola
but sycamore with horn leech grid
grid Sycamore with all Horn Leech tiles gridded and Moonblast OaR
how does rika do vs leon?
i figured her ground zone and aoe poison would be good
her and like sc adaman since sc adaman can’t fall asleep
theoritically nothing stops her from clearing it with froxanne and flex dps slot
she has team status immunity ground zone so dont have to worry about sleep 
inflicting poison might be a pain later on since she doesnt have additional chance on poison sting but can work with good rng
the thing is Rika lacking burst heal
and Leon hits really hard
so it's kinda rough to keep her alive
then the problem is keeping Adaman alive 
fr tho, Leon hitting hard doesn't allow the use of majority supports
rika can tank leon i think, you just need to get lucky with the debuffs 🐟
triggering enmity faster 
Sparking Area moments
English is too hard for me 
Ofc i dont remember unique name unless i search for them
Oh wow, this was really rng hell to get this shit to work. For those wondering, I had regular fire equips but require the insane rng to make this entire thing work. Personally wouldn't recommend trying
if you are wondering, all are lv 3 for move levels
u can check the successful team list if you want the full playout
took me countless resets and many hours to even get this to work
(mpr on sunny day is a must, and also mighty affliction needs to proc at least 3 times during the 5 usage of Leer)
nicely done
Sun powers up leon 
yup
that's why u need fire guard on SS Morty
actually screw the champ themed equip
its all fire equips
i mixed it up with my other failed team
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the other team only managed to drop Leon's hp to 30% before he used all crit
DPS loss from changing CS 2 to status immunity is just too large on the other 1
quad queueing with this team is very difficult tho
until the sync downs Leon
but at that time u have to squeeze as many moves as possible to drop as much damage on the sides as possible
but i did took some sort of reference from the lv 4/5 Morty team
to roughly guage how much hp and what I should do
also FYI, all 3 of the pairs have their max energy increased
Geeta: 64
Morty: 66
NC Leaf: 66
3/5 EX-R +6E for both Red and Leaf (tho the extra grid energy is unnecessary on Leaf)
3/5 KriSS
I got close without fire guard
I just missed crit because I hate life
2/5 morty too just need a lot of believe
Yeah but she can't tank long enough, dies from inferno post sync iirc, plus she can't really keep up ground zone all the time, so it's kinda iffy
Not a pretty clear but I got the variety Kris clear I wanted. Blue clutched with tanking those attacks. I record it Monday when I can ex Kris, that should help it immensely
what move levels?I could test it if it's just 3/5 for each
Heavy carry but saw another funny Volkner clear 
Zekrom might need 5/5 but other than that, koko and rosa are fine at 3/5
Wait let me check
Zekrom needs that he4
hmmmmmm, I might test it when I get strike candy
Ok just one strike candy
I have 3/5 N , Ss hau and nc rosa rn
3/5 N has HE1 so maybe we can hope for a 30% para chance with bolt strike
ehhhhh too much rng. Gonna wait for 1 strike candy
16 more candy coins for strike candy
someone actually bruteforce leon without status
fairy comp but it wasnt tosakinto
they fished for confusion sparkling aria 
Sparkling Aria can't confuse can it?
no i mean they fished for confusion proc on sparkling aria
Elio doesn't have flabberghast I thought
also confusion doesn't work, I thought it had to be status
Elio is the only one with sparkling aria
ye
because they can 

Must be skippingmud 
Wait, what is this against
leon
Whoah, what
literally bruteforce and fish for sparkling area confusion procs
i just watched his hs clear, he has wally rolex 
Tosakinto had it too but he failed I think
Surprised he didn't try the confusion dodge
He was confident about killing mid but side control was the issue
ah thats fair i only saw him died to second sync 
ggs to whoever manage to did it though
I imagine he'll be made aware too
Is this a good team against Anabel?
Should be, yes
I would replace ELio with May
You should replace Elio with a dmg dealer for easier and faster clear
Same thought
......... what's the comp?I still can't believe fairy comp beat Leon
props to the player who did it
and I am flabbergasted at how much raw damage fairy comp put out in the replay
through robust physique
so fairy comp has all ub clears right?
I think the concensus if Fire Guard on Morty and CS2 for others
Geeta could also use her custom LS
Watch out the sun bc you are boosting Leon’s offense
He'll use a max move at CD3 so be careful
basically yeah
Ladies and gentlemen
Welp, I did it. What I hope is actually Lysandre's UB and Anni Skyla's second clear?? I don't know, but I decided to give it a spin after Anni Skyla got her extremely strong expansion and cake.
So, I've been spewing Lysandre tanking propaganda for like, a looong while now, so how well does the genocidal dorito man do in UBs as a tank? The answ...
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