#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
broken crag
final yacht
new team that beats all UBs just dropped a month ago
silver spruce
Doing gods work there
final yacht
i can tell you that spending a whole hour looking at runs, making sure people didn't mess up and that i don't mess up either isn't fun lol
last clear wasn't even a clear 
and 1 run went to misc
silver spruce
We all appreciate it as usual
shrewd marten
last clear wasn't even a clear <:PrycePain:971377771987206154> and 1 run went to...
Wut
boreal abyss
fast pendant
last clear wasn't even a clear <:PrycePain:971377771987206154> and 1 run went to...
what's the criteria for which clear goes to misc btw
stone scarab
a clear with objectively less investment existing sends the one with more investment to misc
like, if we get a 3/5 SS Steven, 3/5 SS Lana and 3/5 EXR NC Rosa clear and then someone sends a clear with that team but Lana is only 1/5, then the first clear goes to misc
If someone else sends a clear with 1/5 EXR SS Steven, they coexist because EXR is a different kind of investment to candy
fast pendant
Sure, this is a more straightforward case ( 'tho I would still like to know if the actual stage performance has any impact in it), but some clears can be often very similar when they are formed of a strong duo + less relevant third, is this a case that is being take in account?
stone scarab
not to my knowledge, the doc is made with the intent of being a resource for people to be able to grab clears from, even if the base core is the same adding an extra 3rd character that can be used in place of others is helpful in that regard
gentle wharf
60 Palmer runs and none work for me lol
Anyway eesh Leon sounds terrible for my roster
No NC Blue no SST Red no SS Hau
silver spruce
60 Palmer runs and none work for me lol
What do you have to work with?
gentle wharf
No Chop no Rei
Only teams that SHOULD work are the Geeta and GloriAlt2 ones but I’ve used them and I can’t replicate it
stable tundra
looks like skill gears difference
silver spruce
No SC Diantha or Steven I take it?
true lagoon
new team that beats all UBs just dropped ~~a month ago~~
leon ub says hi
gentle wharf
looks like skill gears difference
Yep lol
gentle wharf
No SC Diantha or Steven I take it?
I have those
Ooh wait I didn’t see that all psychic team
Oh no that needs like 5 tech candies to replicate lol
valid raft
Where is it?
valid raft
new team that beats all UBs just dropped ~~a month ago~~
Ah here, this is the one that will encourage me to pull for SS Mina when the time comes
fading walrus
No NC Blue no SST Red no SS Hau
No Geeta?
gentle wharf
I got Geeta but her damage isn’t the same, seems I lack Skill Gears
fading walrus
You need a secondary or to just run triple vigilance
fading walrus
Yeah we're talking Leon I thought
gentle wharf
Yeah I got them thankfully
valid raft
Oleana might be good here actually
fast pendant
with what units
valid raft
Would chase be good for leon?
Yeah, what's your team?
fast pendant
sst red is the big counter if you have him the supps won't have much impact
lone granite
Easy this time
jade grotto
Just did it 1st try
true lagoon
lucy really isnt hard
jade grotto
Yes as long as you can get poison immunity and you can debuff speed, she's easy
silver spruce
Pair volo with a decent ground nuker and you'll be fine
Something as simple as SS Gio or Courtney works
shrewd marten
Yes as long as you can get poison immunity and you can debuff speed, she's easy
i did it without it but geeta is way better of a unit than maxie xd
quick pewter
That wasn't too bad
I didn't even have to restart by way of messing up round 1 inputs like an idiot LOL
torpid chasm
Looks like Rika was the perfect fit for me to beat my first Ultimate Battle
torpid chasm
3/5 + ex role
But Courtney is only 2/5 and level 140
Poor girl got destroyed by a sludge wave at 836 damages by one of the side at the end
I kinda wanted to submit this to the UB clear sheet, but sadly my phone said no to any kind of recording
rotund oasis
save it on a google spreadsheet so you can revisit for later xD
something like this
torpid chasm
When PoMaTools will be updated, I will make my team in the Team Builder feature and save it, so like this everyone will be able to do the same
Ngl if I had Courtney at 3/5, it would have been much easier, but she still refuses to come another time xD
rotund oasis
yeah another time o/
left crow
Heh
cold plaza
how many chances do I have to beat the battle challenge round 2 if I only have 3 earth pokemon?
and they are seismitoad, mudsdale and swampert
stable tundra
You may have to go offtype. Swampert is not a Ground type in this game, she is Water type
Can you show your entire roster?
lunar sedge
Clay gaming
left crow
Is koga counted as e4?
lunar sedge
Yeah he appears when filtered
torpid chasm
To beat the battle challenge, you need to get rid of the Poison zone, so SSR Cynthia might be a useful choice there, and also to inflict a status, so any unit able to poison/paralyse/burn might do the job
left crow
Alternatively use defog
cold plaza
To beat the battle challenge, you need to get rid of the Poison zone, so SSR Cyn...
yep, that worked, thank you 
torpid chasm
high harbor
I did it with ss diantha, nc silver and bertha
marble flume
I’d imagine Courtney + status inflictor + Support is probably gonna be one of the easiest accessible clears
valid raft
Cortney + Aaron
exotic dome
Drake had E4+HE1 dragon breath btw
left crow
I used drasna 
floral crypt
spice basin
Jeez
silver spruce
I can only imagine how many of those are duplicates of others
silver spruce
I figured most of the clears are some combo of MFs anyways
final yacht
yeah
i have mixed feeling about it because the goal of the doc was to have clears for people struggling to beat them
but a lot of them feel like flex clears
silver spruce
I'm guilty of that personally
Maybe have a couple highlighted clears at the top that are more beginner friendly?
final yacht
well in theory the most f2p friendly clears are at the top
since i order by free units and candy used
floral crypt
I did a clear with only 1 Master Fair, not as good as the Roxanne clear but it's good
If it's too much of an issue you might have to close submissions on Lucy for a bit
silver spruce
Hopefully Lucy is a sign that the new UBs will be more noob friendly
final yacht
you wish
floral crypt
Leon's with Status Removal and Terrain Requirement
silver spruce
Leon is painful but has options outside of MFs
floral crypt
He's built to be bullied by the rats and to torture everything else
Some of the UBs are too specific man 
silver spruce
SS Hau and 1/5 Classic Elesa seem to beat the gimmick
You just need a good support
final yacht
He's built to be bullied by the rats and to torture everything else
first UB solo? 
(nah it's not happening)
floral crypt
Def gets UB Duo's by SST Red and NC Blue
final yacht
definitely
floral crypt
I don't think the rally roster has been updated since it's been implemented so that's good at least
Dread the day they do rally refresh or whatever
silver spruce
wdym
floral crypt
It has almost every stage up to Grusha's event I think
silver spruce
oh now I follow you
floral crypt
It's missing Extreme Battle challenges and nothing new after rally was added
silver spruce
We haven't had any that have been too terrible lately for regular battle challenges
The worst I've seen has been the anabel challenge from last summer
floral crypt
NC Nate seems a bit annoying, he has rebuff requirement like Thorton but only a 50% damage reduction
His HP is also bloated but all NC stages are like that besides Serena
silver spruce
I forgot that those eventually get added
low coral
Def gets UB Duo's by SST Red and NC Blue
I think Red gets 3 duos on a bad case scenario
With Blue, Ash, and Hau
shrewd marten
Hopefully Lucy is a sign that the new UBs will be more noob friendly
It’s kinda boring
Also Lucy is kinda like latios at this point
Except having these clears of the ub is a lil less interesting than latios solos cuz lg exists
Shame
silver spruce
It’s kinda boring
I would rather have Lucy or Darach level challenges than have Anabel level bs again
shrewd marten
Didn’t say Palmer interesting
silver spruce
Palmer is less restrictive
shrewd marten
I don’t like Annabel just cuz it’s annoying restrictive but Lucy is a little too easy
silver spruce
Anabel is have NC Serena or cry
silver spruce
God help those that are missing SS Kris or SS Mina too
shrewd marten
I mean if I’m honest Palmer is more restrict than Annabel according to the clears
It says there are more Palmer clears but it’s like 90% chop and rei so
silver spruce
Palmer helps that he doesn't require one specifc fighting type. Its a choice of three or four. There's also more diverse clears with palmer
shrewd marten
No its 2 fighting carries
silver spruce
Rei being a pokefair over a masterfair makes it much less restrictive imo
shrewd marten
Exactly only 2 of them
silver spruce
SC Diantha is also there
shrewd marten
Annabel gets countered by multiple water units
lol sc diantha
She is not a carry
I believe glojo is actually quite good for her but not sure don’t have
Vlyra is very good for her
Admittedly variety cringe
silver spruce
Lyra is hard to use because of her innate nuke being smarty pants
silver spruce
Anabel is constantly buffing so you either have to spam fake tears or choose damge
silver spruce
Anabel demands damage every chance you can because of how hard she hits
shrewd marten
As if Palmer don’t demand the same thing
silver spruce
Palmer you can elect to drop a defensive support
Anabel requires atleast 1 solid support
silver spruce
Yes which is why anabel is more restrictive
shrewd marten
What
silver spruce
how many supports carry anabel? 3?
silver spruce
Then you need 1-2 top tier water nukes
NC Blue, SS Kris, SS Mina are the top three picks for Anabel
2 are MF
shrewd marten
Aand?
silver spruce
Anabel is more restrictive
shrewd marten
It’s not like rei is ripping it with riley only
You need a strong support with him too
silver spruce
Rei just wants a second fighting dps
silver spruce
Who said riley was good fighting dps
silver spruce
SC Diantha and Rei can clear Palmer
shrewd marten
Need one specificnpokefaie and specific other unit
silver spruce
You need something to either nuke mid or help rei clear sides
shrewd marten
I’m like 99% sure that team wants Rosa doesn’t it
silver spruce
I'm the opposite
shrewd marten
In fact I think I have zero sc units
That’s fine but it fundamentally means it’s not less restrictive just cuz
silver spruce
Seasonals are usually easier to predict when theyll rerun which helps too
shrewd marten
Masterfairs usually arrive around times that have a lot of gems
But either way it’s a very specific unit you need to get
shrewd marten
Doesn’t matter if it’s 10% it’s still you need that particular unit
silver spruce
MF are take a pick or random month
shrewd marten
We knew exactly one month before cerena would rerun
We had enough time to get her with that logic
If you really wanted to
silver spruce
And?
shrewd marten
wtf do you mean and
The point is worthless if it’s just oh I can plan to get sc Steven therefore less restrictive
silver spruce
I can look out to July and say oh, the summer seasonals will rerun then. I can save gems for them.
NC Serena reruns at random months
not a preset pattern
shrewd marten
Ok and?
I don’t want sc Steven
Does it just become tough luck I need to pull for it?
If it does then that is restrictive
(Just realized I have sc diantha which is a sc)
silver spruce
My point is for a new player itll be easier to obtain a seasonal because of the pattern and harder to get a specific masterfair unless they've been datamined
shrewd marten
That doesn’t mean it’s less restrictive like at all
warm haven
i find anabel more restrictive because 90% you need either ss mina, nc blue or ss kriss. For palmer you just need a good combination between nc rosa, rei, nc hop, you can use rats, ice team, three fairy teams, two water teams, two poison teams
silver spruce
i find anabel more restrictive because 90% you need either ss mina, nc blue or s...
THANK YOU!
shrewd marten
Wdym you use rats and irida to clear Annabel too
What’s the difference
That’s literally the same thing
silver spruce
Rat's took two months to get a clear on anabel
shrewd marten
Rat and blue can do it with an egg
fast pendant
Palmer is a damage check, so even if at the moment you find it more restrictive, as units get stronger and, newer untis are generally stronger, you will have teams clears it more easily
warm haven
What’s the difference
that you can use either chase or blue against palmer
fast pendant
While Anabel require some specific combo of gimmicks to beat
low coral
Rat's took two months to get a clear on anabel
It more so took Tbolt Red to get Field EX
warm haven
anabel forces you to 3 supports, 2 of them MF and the 3rd may need more than 3/5
low coral
Once that happened, he became one of the top choices for off-typing the stage lol
fast pendant
I don't think anabel directly forces as much as is said
but it's for sure the most restrictive one
shrewd marten
Bleb
fast pendant
for instance Palmer allows for full offensive clears without supps
earnest panther
Yep, this team feels great
marble flume
I think once I 3/5 my Rika a Darach clear with her + Cynthia + Bertha is gonna become possible
gentle wharf
Definitely feels like Palmer is a lot more restrictive than Anabel
crude marten
there are more offtypes on palmer than on anabel, i think that alone speaks which one is more restrictive
marble flume
They’re different types of restrictive
Palmer’s mainly a big damage check, Anabel’s got more of a survivability and gimmick-counter check going on
crude marten
palmer only ask for damage, anabel you kinda need to balance between dealing with mechanics, damage, survival/healing/defensive buffs
cold widget
I have 2/5 SS red, 5/5 ash and 5/5 NC rosa, are any ultimate battles doable for me? I noticed most of the teams with red on the doc are reliant on him being 3/5
fast pendant
ss or sst red?
fast pendant
hm, I think you can do Darach and Palmer
and Lucy ofc
your sst red has field ex role, right? it shows there but just to confirm
cold widget
yes
fast pendant
yeah, darach, lucy and Palmer sound doable to me, Palmer might need some testing but the others should be easier
I think you would also be able to do Argenta
but not with those 3
NC Rosa, SS Erika and SS Hilda or Geeta I think might be able to
fast pendant
are you sure?
marble flume
I’m personally waiting to do half the current UBs rn
Mainly because I don’t wanna candy the pairs I’d need to replicate a specific team rn
So far it’s paid off since I just took care of Thorton without needing to candy NC Leaf or SS Morty thanks to Support Cake SS Hilda
forest root
EZ
rich heron
Geeta can remove leon fire dmg field isn't it?
stable tundra
yup
rich heron
Nice
primal leaf
Umm, next UB is weak to Electric? Won't it just be rat/bird food? Is there any anti-rat mechanism involved?
rotund oasis
None. Its built for sst red.
Just careful with getting burned. Eterrain guards your team from sleep.
primal leaf
great, guess I won't need to stress about it too much
valid raft
great, guess I won't need to stress about it too much
Note that Leon buffs his entire team's offensive stats every time he syncs
primal leaf
hmm, so I guess would need to beat him down ASAP..3/5 NC Blue helps with that too
valid raft
That's exactly why NC Blue is also there
jade grotto
Just careful with getting burned. Eterrain guards your team from sleep.
You can still grid charged immunity
rotund oasis
i'll be running that battle with NC Blue, Ash and SST Red, and my NC Blue run with burn is just.... "Why are you getting burned so much?" ;_;
plush gale
rotund oasis
Nice o.o
gilded finch
Any ideas on what I should do here
I already tried this team and I couldn’t beat it
Note: cerena doesnt have ex role but the other two do and also i have ss mina 3/5
true lagoon
you need a rain setter
1/5 archie only sets it once and once she syncs you lose essentially
rotund oasis
the momeny Anabel has Sun, she becomes very strong.
final yacht
I think I've never been so confused when adding a run before
Someone submitted a run with some units, but the pomatools link was for the units of the... previous submissions I added?? Like the same exact grids???
maybe i replaced it by accident but wtf
true lagoon
so should i swap blue for ss mina
no replace archie
nc serena can solo dps but you need more rain uses
inner heath
so should i swap blue for ss mina
replace Archie with May
if May is 3/5, if not SSMina is fine but more dps is better
fast pendant
I would prefer May as well
gilded finch
if May is 3/5, if not SSMina is fine but more dps is better
She’s 5/5
Aw man
so i got archie for nun
May might have a bad ls that i can fix rn
Thats it
gilded finch
if May is 3/5, if not SSMina is fine but more dps is better
ss mina not only has rain but she can also help defensively a lot
true lagoon
well nc blue can basically cover everything mina does
unless u plan on going past the second sync
inner heath
ncblue alone is enough support tbh, you want to kill her asap, she still has the most hp of all UB
archie is fine, you can use him for HS 
true lagoon
archie is fine, you can use him for HS <:DawnNom:632438643935674381>
i used him for the original water hs for 500 that shit was so awful
fast pendant
without may or other dmg dealer alongside serena you will have some issues dealing with sides
final yacht
Down to 40 submissions
valid raft
Down to 40 submissions <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
And be prepared for over 100 more when Leon comes 
marble flume
True
final yacht
I blame Skinny
i blame skinny not jk lol
skinny makes up for 83 submissions total (not accounting the ones that i didn't add yet)
final yacht
ok reduced to 25 submissions, i'll try to finish tomorrow
gilded finch
well nc blue can basically cover everything mina does
Oh thats right i have sst red 3/5 and all nc kantos 3/5 with role
And 3/5 nc silver with role
shrewd marten
I wonder how actually diverse it is
Bro ain’t no way same problem with palmer
Impossible to view on mobile
Feels bad
kindred light
Any tips/teams I should look at to clear thorton’s freezing frost? I don’t have moltres so that’s the biggest option out for me
true lagoon
Any tips/teams I should look at to clear thorton’s freezing frost? I don’t have ...
demands rebuff and good physical/special dps
a little more importance on physical damage since he swaps the tripled defensive stat at 60% from physical to special
kindred light
Is it really that impossible without? I’ve seen a few teams clear it without moltres in the successful teams tab in game. But I’m missing 3/5 callum for this last one I saw. Tried with 3/5 champion red, champion blue and Irida as well
fading walrus
Preferably you'd want a fire special striker to take care of first 40% of mid and turn denial sides, then any good phys nuker for remaining 60%
true lagoon
Is it really that impossible without? I’ve seen a few teams clear it without mol...
the second team doesnt clear cuz you have no physical dps
not to mention irida is literally buffing thorton
fading walrus
Is it really that impossible without? I’ve seen a few teams clear it without mol...
What master fairs do you have
kindred light
I have blaziken and Victini 3/5
kindred light
not to mention irida is literally buffing thorton
My bad was thinking of the wrong team. It was May and red
fading walrus
Then that should be easy, victini is made for thorton
true lagoon
Then that should be easy, victini is made for thorton
no its leaf
fading walrus
Just need rebuff (NC blue) and a third unit that synergizes
true lagoon
victini does nothing to actually counter unless you’re weird and take agg9 confusion
fading walrus
no its leaf
Ofc aside leaf lol
true lagoon
Ofc aside leaf lol
eh
fading walrus
Victini is like the #2 unit for it
true lagoon
if you say “made for” there has to be some kind of gimmick counter
fading walrus
Because it was the only other good fire with split
true lagoon
which she doesnt really have besides mixed damage
kindred light
In terms of master fairs…I have most of them. Because one I’m missing is red and Pikachu
fading walrus
It's why many op teams can't clear as easily
true lagoon
i know its relevant but is searing shot actually that good
kindred light
Not in my experience so far, but that might be because I have 3/5 Victini
true lagoon
tbh ss may victini and nc blue should clear
true lagoon
may can nuke the last 60% and searing shot in theory should be good enough?
true lagoon
Just dump in NC blue
where defense debuff
kindred light
I have like 1/5 Leon and charziard lol
fading walrus
Then yeah ssmay
fading walrus
where defense debuff
I mean I've seen Hilda with dc2 work for that stage
true lagoon
i mean yeah i guess dc2 blue works
but idk if leon is enough to deny steelix before x def all+
fading walrus
1/5 probably not
true lagoon
Also it's avalugg
oh right steelix is stealth rocks
fading walrus
Ye
true lagoon
i did it with ny wallace sst nc blue and never looked back
(i actually lost the first attempt cuz blizzard froze sst)
fading walrus
Yeah blizzard freeze are annoying
kindred light
There are my master fairs if that helps
Might try Victini and blaziken again. But they got shredded last time I did
true lagoon
were you debuffing def with may
they shouldnt have that hard of a time surviving unless they’re keeping their dps multipliers enabled
kindred light
Yes, she still only hit for around 8-10k. Sync hit hard later in the match though
Sync would push a little over 100k, but blaze kick damage was average
fast pendant
do any of your units have ex role
kindred light
A few, like may has hers.
fast pendant
what about nc serena?
kindred light
Just gave her the support one
fast pendant
NC Red and SSA Cytnhia have theirs?
kindred light
Yes
kindred light
I used both a lot and it’s paid off nicely. Also wouldn’t one of those need to be physical?
fast pendant
not necessarily actually, but Serena will have that role
you will nuke with her in dark form after 60%
kindred light
I didn’t realize her sync turned. Physical. I never use the dark side lol
fast pendant
you want to use her b move to apply dark rebuff instead of water
and brutal swing to debuff defense
it's not gonna be a super simple run, so I can record for you if you want
what lucky skills do you have on them
kindred light
I have vilgilance on Serena right now, and on red and Cynthia lol
This was the last extreme battle I had so I’ve been testing different teams
kindred light
Yes, red and Serena have that as their first lucky skill
fast pendant
would any of them have hs1?
kindred light
No but I might have the lucky cookie for it
kindred light
Thanks. I’ll also give it a try in a few
low coral
SS N vs Thorton is done
silver spruce
3/5?
fast pendant
@kindred light closer than I would've liked but there you go,
Grids and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000003014400&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFDA8fIiQoKy4v&v1=009103044800&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=15010101&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDg8QJigqLQ&v2=013003065800&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=4444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFCw4dICMlKSwuLw
I ended up using HS1 on cynthia 'cause otherwise you would have to fish for flinches with brutal swing
kindred light
I didn’t think of killing avalugg first. Red also keeps dying so I appreciate the grid info. Going to compare that
fast pendant
you want to deny steelix due to stealth rock
kindred light
True, although doesn’t it go away? Still a pain to deal with though
fast pendant
it does go away but since red is rock weak
he takes double the dmg
which makes hard to keep him healthy
kindred light
Oh that’s was probably why he kept going down first in my runs. Thank you. Let me see if I have the head start cookie
Got head start on Serena but didn’t get from any of the cookies I had for Cynthia
Shouldn’t be too much of an issue though. Going to test it now
fast pendant
ohh
sorry
It only needs one head start
so if serena has it cynthia doesn't need it
shrewd marten
No crit strike is dicey innit?
kindred light
Red and Serena keep dying no matter what to the third sync. Not sure why though
low coral
Third Sync? You're not supposed to take even the second
kindred light
The second isn’t that bad. Unless im miss counting. Let me double check that
low coral
The second is survivable if you don't get crit, but the aim of the team is beating before that happens
But you shouldn't reach third sync in general
Are you triple queuing everything?
left crow
Can i clear thorton with frogs?
valid raft
Definitely
spice basin
Are you sure about that? There is literally one clear in the doc with Calem, who isn't the sole or main support since NC Blue is there
fading walrus
You can but you very likely need a great second support AND a 3/5 cerena
fading walrus
You'll need a mixed support with some team heals
spiral summit
How i can get 1 more rotation ? 
left crow
You'll need a mixed support with some team heals
I think i need a defensive one
The frogs in tandem can max their offenses on their own
spiral summit
Pre Sync Anabel
Should use Calem’s B Move before Dahlia’s Sync but Cerena Sync is strong enough
stable tundra
spiral summit
How i can get 1 more rotation ? <:Clod_Grief:1233732509011804177>
Question: How to get 1 more rotation ?
Answer: Let Calem die from Burn
crude marten
fading walrus
I think i need a defensive one
Mixed defensively ofc
pine loom
Calem is Gigachad for this
spiral summit
left crow
Mixed defensively ofc
I only have bede and ncrosa sadly
fast pendant
Well Rosa is fine
More than fine actually
I would say she's better Vs thorton than blue
But I wouldn't use Calem
Serena is great there
left crow
I'll try her infuess
fast pendant
but will depends what else you have to go with them
Serena gives a lot of room for the 3rd unit since she can either nuke special or physical making that the other unit only really needs to have a good aoe nuke
warm haven
https://youtu.be/yA9Ww0x43bE
wow nice suicide calem
fast pendant
I can show you my units, but what filters should i do?
any dmg dealer with aoe nuke that is some what premium, units that can abuse rebuff of either rosa or serena appreciated
left crow
Would ss morty, ss red and nc Rosa work
fast pendant
yes
anni N might be better in this case so if you wanna use him instead of red
since you get master passive increase from rosa and his nuke plays better with Serena's
left crow
N died when he synced 🫠
rich heron
low coral
Oh wait, I forgot to record it, hope it's still in the replays
low coral
How many ice beams?
I think one or two
boreal abyss
Interesting
low coral
But it was there in-game if you wanna watch it, hope it's still there
boreal abyss
Lemme log in
boreal abyss
But it was there in-game if you wanna watch it, hope it's still there
Still there
You can record the replay
low coral
Nice
kindred light
In testing the Serena and red team from yesterday. I can conclude that it’s nearly impossible unless
You have head start 1 on two mons( it’s the only way to get to sync before red’s third one as you waste a turn earlier on superior aura sphere), if avalugg flinches you, which is like a 90 percent chance, you lose, and you need heavily upgraded type gear
The extra stats are what keep red and Serena alive buff their damage
arctic mist
I'm struggling to figure out how I should handle the Good Ol' Rika Here! Battle Challenge! missions... Can I get some help?
novel fog
I'm struggling to figure out how I should handle the Good Ol' Rika Here! Battle ...
You could just throw Bertha for both ground and E4 and add some UBER tier DPS
Do you have any broken units?
I think Courtney Bertha and SS Gio can do good enough
true lagoon
Here's my roster
lucy is unironically easy as shit assuming you have poison immunity
and you have 3/5 nc leaf
so
free win
thorton is also pretty free when you have leaf 3/5
true lagoon
What team should I run then
physical nuker + nc leaf and a good tanking support
arctic mist
You could just throw Bertha for both ground and E4 and add some UBER tier DPS
Thanks!
novel fog
:D
kindred light
This was the closest I could get. Going to have to wait in this one. Didn’t have gems for leaf. Also could easy clear this if I had red and pikachu but I got half way to scout points his last re run with nothing. I’ll definitely pick up leaf on re run though
sour elk
That looks very close, maybe even within the reach of slightly better skill gears if you can afford some feathers 
kindred light
I even upgraded my skill gear a few times after. But haven’t been able to get back to that. I think it’s the lack of the second head start.. making the articuno’s third sync hit right before I get the last one needed to finish it off
shrewd marten
This was the closest I could get. Going to have to wait in this one. Didn’t have...
Did you use brutal swing sync move for second half?
shrewd marten
not w/ ex 2/5 morty / ex sc rosa / ex ss lyra
Y the team so wack
tulip stream
I skipped kantrio MFs
and dont have support candy to spare
i actually made it to 50% btw
kindred light
Did you use brutal swing sync move for second half?
Yes, hit for around 120k, but it still doesn’t come close to knocking out Articuno
shrewd marten
You should get 2 or 3 sync moves with cerena though
shrewd marten
https://youtu.be/VFeukRWRdxk?si=m0q-c76bPKt7UZC3
aint no way N working is wild
also what is kono asate cuz ssac and ssn both say it alot lel
valid raft
also what is kono asate cuz ssac and ssn both say it alot lel
SSA Cynthia: That's the one
SS N: This is it
kindred light
You should get 2 or 3 sync moves with cerena though
My syncs in order are Cynthia, red for the next two syncs, water Serena after, and dark Serena for the last sync. If that helps and maybe I’m missing something
valid raft
You're quadqueueing?
kindred light
Quad queuing? I line 3 moves up at a time
shrewd marten
My syncs in order are Cynthia, red for the next two syncs, water Serena after, a...
You shouldn’t be using water cerena
Only dark
We can see from roplame vids that ncred can get through the spatk check just fine
kindred light
I was using water based off the video posted here yesterday, but I can try with double dark.
By the time I get to the Serena sync the first time though, Articuno is still not at 60 percent
shrewd marten
Oh then yeah use water
Btw quad queue is like
Queueing a move instantly after sync
stable tundra
skill gears also play a huge role, if Ropal used them
shrewd marten
Yeah then I guess a water cerena is fine
kindred light
Oh, I always am queuing right away
shrewd marten
Are you specifically queuing ncred last
kindred light
And yes definitely had type gear but I don’t know what kind
Order is Serena, red Cynthia, like the video
shrewd marten
Do Cynthia Serena red
stable tundra
did Ropal use any skill gears?
shrewd marten
I don’t think ropal did the cerena clear I was just basing the damage off of his ssn clear cuz ssn has zero special damage
kindred light
There’s the skill gear I have for this
spiral summit
Do you have any gear give defense?
shrewd marten
So I tried it just now
I got to 61% just before cerena first sync
I used her water sync anyway but like
It was one ice beam away
kindred light
Do you have any gear give defense?
I do not unfortunately. Tried re rolling, but at most I got plus 20 which is honestly nothing. Especially when it came without the other benefits
shrewd marten
It be in pins
stable tundra
+pins
plucky swanBOT
stable tundra
yeah it's a dumb design choice
kindred light
does anyone have the ultimate battle doc?
You need at least 2/5 on hop and rei.
kindred light
You might be able to do it with those two, but you need a good defense debuffer.
I believe Steven and stoutland are a good substitute people use if you don’t have hop
shrewd marten
Wdym they auto win
kindred light
Even with mine dealing massive damage, it took a few tries and hop’s damage made it just winnable. But my rei was also 2/5
I have too many other units to candy because I mostly pull for 1/5 and go from there for most units.
So rei is lower priority atm.
Anyway to answer about defense on my Articuno attempts. The only hard hitting move is double edge, and rock slide. But avalugg can be stopped before getting that off. Cynthia barely takes one double edge at a time. But if I get the potion refreshes it helps
spiral summit
+pins
Oh, do you know on iphone, for some unknown reason i cant see the pin in #poma-questions
stable tundra
probably discord issue
stable tundra
have you updated Discord to the newst update?
spiral summit
But i still can see pin in this channel
spiral summit
have you updated Discord to the newst update?
Yes
stable tundra
spiral summit
stable tundra
i don't think i can help anything about this, sorry 
final yacht
I believe that if you click on the settings button there's also the pins
final yacht
Ah well rip
rotund oasis
restart discord?
spiral summit
restart discord?
Already tried it
Sadly but my discord have been like this for 3 months
hearty cedar
https://youtu.be/VFeukRWRdxk?si=m0q-c76bPKt7UZC3
Wow, impressive
low coral
I might try more N runs if I pull and invest on Grusha
valid raft
You'd need a weather replacer who can apply status change
low coral
I think I did try Irida once
I think Irida / Rosa / N works
Just gotta get Vigilances
valid raft
Is it only to showcase SS N for all UBs are you doing this with a certain comp with him?
hearty cedar
Just for fun
No real reason
For palmer ub, he used nc.red and irida. For thorton he uses nc.red and ssac
tulip stream
i think shes supposed to be the easiest?
lunar sedge
Having antitoxin is pretty much a free win against Lucy, her now health pool helps too
And Courtney is like an active wall that prevents her from ramping up damage
valid raft
lmao cynthia
Don't edit it
shrewd marten
What a strange looking team
warm haven
what is that team
silver spruce
That's really cool
shrewd marten
piers and elesa isnt the first synergy ive ever thought of
silver spruce
I mean 5/5 Elesa gets Sync Conductivity and combined with Max move, you basically have all the electric terrain you'd need because of Piers
I'm just surprised that Elesa can pull off the damage needed for that
fast pendant
C Elesa nuke at 5/5 is pretty great and Sprint allows for more syncs now
shrewd marten
5/5 is wild
silver spruce
I always forget she gains a second Power Play multiplier
shrewd marten
Id just have expected sstr I guess
silver spruce
Probably the crazies looking for a challenge
dim lance
Well it is done by the crazy man in all likelihood
warm haven
they finally put the nc blue, nc silver, sst red clear vs palmer but it's not mine
kind wasp
Wait wrong channel
kind wasp
4th anni trio's BC
Oh, makes sense
lucid locust
I just cleared my first Ultimate Battle. I used PyPy nè's setup from the Google Doc. I struggled because that setup relies on Riley not having his EX Role unlocked (otherwise Empoleon dies before it can queue its move). I also forgot to equip Critical Strike on Rei for the first roughly thirty attempts.
From now on, I think I'll just wait until powercreep makes the current Ultimate Battles easier.
spiral summit
I just cleared my first Ultimate Battle. I used PyPy nè's setup from the Google ...
- Oh hey, that me
- Anyway, congrats for the clear
shrewd marten
I just cleared my first Ultimate Battle. I used PyPy nè's setup from the Google ...
But Lucy is like 10x easier
You chose one of the hardest ones first
final yacht
Nice R non-ex Serna Pyp
final yacht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqOn8jSWWtA by accident i deleted the grids from this clear, could anyone figure them out for me pls 
the anabel one
low coral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqOn8jSWWtA by accident i deleted the grids from...
Google Sheets keeps track of edits made
low coral
Shouldn't it still be under submissions at some point? Or was it too long ago to be worth looking for it?
final yacht
i can try looking but
shrewd marten
Realistically you can guess this one and it won’t affect much cuz
Well it’s cerena
final yacht
i need to remember when it was to begin with lol
low coral
Well, it's prob 6 submissions with the same YT link in a row
final yacht
it's not in a row since i ordered by UB when I did it
low coral
Copy the youtube link and use Ctrl + F
final yacht
yeah i found it 
thx
low coral
Nice
shrewd marten
Big brain
lucid locust
But Lucy is like 10x easier
I tried Lucy because everyone insisted that it's easy, but I never get to kill her before her guaranteed crit Sync.
shrewd marten
I tried Lucy because everyone insisted that it's easy, but I never get to kill h...
But it’s incredibly easy to survive it
So even if you get to it it’s fine
dry zephyr
lunar sedge
Sidney a free win
quick pewter
I think this is one of the most stupid teams I've concocted for this
But it worked so it's whatever
rotund oasis
Hehe. They do aoe sp.atk buffs for some reason
warm haven
SS Silver gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUzQimel-A
agile wave
Hell yeaa 
plush gale
Choice : Phantom Zinnia, Lodge N & Fall Caitlin https://youtu.be/gB1MYoBkG5E?si=FkUjilO0FLz67y_C
urban sapphire
So for BR challenge 2
I am using sidney, ghestis and skyle support
But i cant keep 2 alive for the objective 😂
What would u guys modify
This is my roster
stable tundra
Is Skyla 3/5 and has Vigilance?
She is at 1/5 as shown on the image atm, but you can you upgrade her?
raven wharf
I love this team
urban sapphire
She is at 1/5 as shown on the image atm, but you can you upgrade her?
She is 3 5 now
This is her aync grid
stable tundra
Grid her with full Potion tiles and TM MPR, gives her Vigilance if possible
Grid Ghetsis for Double Drop, and sync nuke with Sidney
urban sapphire
Okay will do so
cosmic token
Blew the dust off OG Caitlin
urban sapphire
Ghetsis good this way?
stable tundra
He is not nuking, so do this instead https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19501/64600?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBwoNEBocHyIwMTM0NQ
urban sapphire
Okay thanks alot
urban sapphire
He is not nuking, so do this instead https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19501/64...
MAN YOU ARE A GENIUS
Lol from barely surviving to 3 full health
Thank you
stable tundra
3/5 Skyla is goated
urban sapphire
Didnt count the 2nd obj need psychic and dark in the ssme team
Who can be my psycho? 😂
Ghetsis noble roar spamm is great in this fight idk who can tank from psychic?
Thinking of tanking with liza
marble flume
Try getting a quadqueue so you can Sync twice before enemy Sync
If need be use Olympia’s Trainer Move on her 2nd turn to avoid the field effect expiring
urban sapphire
U triple queu how to quad? 😅
valid raft
+quadqueue
plucky swanBOT
Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!
The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.
Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :
- If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
- If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)
warm haven
We were talking about sync boosting passives and circle so i wanted to try it with steven
it was a fun team
fast pendant
Any reason for NC Blue instead of Rosa
fast pendant
Yeah, I found weird how long it took considering Wallace has pretty good dmg
I can try with Rosa
warm haven
it would be cool to see it with rosa
wooden wasp
Can I beat challenge 2 of Bryce event?
stable tundra
you still have to Psychic/Dark mission after clearing with Skyla Fall Caitlin Nessa team
left crow
Why isn't there a psychic that can inflict confusion on demand anyways smh
wooden wasp
so nessa plus 2 supps?
left crow
you still have to Psychic/Dark mission after clearing with Skyla Fall Caitlin Ne...
Gakon do you think anni skyla/lucian/faitlin would work
stable tundra
i dont think so
left crow
Rip
left crow
so nessa plus 2 supps?
Try it, let's see
wooden wasp
k
stable tundra
can bring Redlax, Lucian and The Masked Royal for Psychic and Dark
wooden wasp
anything else to focus on other then restrained?
left crow
can bring Redlax, Lucian and The Masked Royal for Psychic and Dark
What would be the restrain
stable tundra
nope, tank with Caitlin so innate Vigilance can help
shrewd marten
Why isn't there a psychic that can inflict confusion on demand anyways smh
But there are
left crow
Who
stable tundra
What would be the restrain
oh wait mb
left crow
Anni skyla has gobsmack so i think she'll work
shrewd marten
Might be one more but I dont remember
shrewd marten
Ah right
marble flume
Why isn't there a psychic that can inflict confusion on demand anyways smh
You mean Will?
left crow
Yeah realized it just now
marble flume
Yeah realized it just now
Ah, yeah, a bit late on my part, apologies
wooden wasp
when i use confusion on siglyph i see status immunity
or do i use confusion on the sides
left crow
Ohhhh
shrewd marten
Wut
left crow
Maybe he inflicted confusion in him and he recovered
Idk
Wait status should be limited to conditions right
Confusion is blocked by interference immunity
left crow
Maybe it says such, but did you confuse her
rotund oasis
doesnt seem to have Resilience or anti confusion o.o
left crow
Hiw about sides?
rotund oasis
nada
stable tundra
i don't think i succeeded she never got confused
what team are you using?
stable tundra
Anni N doesn't care about the DR passives
be sure to keep their spatk at neutral or debuffed
wooden wasp
so noble roar then start going hard?
stable tundra
hmm N is handling too many tasks in that team, you can replace Lucian with Sabrina so she buffs for him while he focuses on debuffing and nuking
when you beat the stage with this team, you don't need to use Nessa team anymore, both N and Caitlin are Unovan
wooden wasp
oof. i get to first enemy sync and then i get one shot 😦
stable tundra
did they have at least +1 spatk?
can pick Noble Roar: Mind Afflicter 4 tile so he can debuff faster
stable tundra
give Vigilance to Anni N then
shrewd marten
Slowbro has condition shield apparently
So if that blocks confusion
There you go
stable tundra
no it doesn't
stable tundra
yes
shrewd marten
Then I don’t see how the confusion be block
stable tundra
well they tried with Lucian beforehand and he only has 10% confusion at base
shrewd marten
tru
dim lance
Ladies and gentlemen
Lysandre's first UB clear
not very impressive but it's at least something
he was the one tanking so he wouldn't die and mostly needed zone MPR rather than Pot MP
dim lance
it required quite a few MPRs
I think this was 5 uses of zone, with extension
though I also missed two crits
@warm haven can you check if it's visible in-game?
I'd like to record it but all of the replays show the standard broke comps
warm haven
nope i dont see it
low coral
Def not frequency
Most of my replays get in right after I win for the first time with the comp
warm haven
I just saw a nc blue, sst red and nc silver clear against thorton and it appeared quite late
low coral
I think they favour some profiles
warm haven
But i got the grusha + ss silver + nc red gainst thorton in the replays
warm haven
I think they favour some profiles
yeah
final yacht
that ropalme is in their whitelist kek
that'd be funny actually imagine they have a user whitelist
low coral
Meaning?
Some users are favored in getting their runs into replays
Almost every time I do a new team they do get into replays, both if the stage is new or if it's months old
dim lance
Is that how it works?
low coral
No, I'm guessing
dim lance
Well it also depends on stage simplicity
low coral
But I do have an easy time getting into replays without doing anything special
dim lance
Darach has more clears then most stages
low coral
I also see Tosakinto often
dim lance
Would it be different from CS and LG replays?
Because afaik those don't follow player specificity
low coral
Idk, like I mentioned, I'm not sure if that's even what actually happens
It's just that UBs are much easier to recognize players and their runs
shrewd marten
I’ve never gotten a run in replays ever
So I have no idea
And I’ve fcked around in ubs a lot
shrewd marten
I hear Barry is in Ubers so you can just use him as a hypercarry and have will confuse or somethin
stable tundra
this is my roster
Can you upgrade Skyla to 2 or 3/5 atm?
cold plaza
should I increase Skyla potential?
or its better to keep them low bc its easier to get those candies
stable tundra
she still uses 3* candies even if you increased her to 6*EX
so upgrade her to 4* at least
cold plaza
ohhh thats nice, didnt know that
cold plaza
sync move obliterates me
stable tundra
you should sync twice before the opponents
avoid using Olympia's TM as her first action, click Calm Mind first so you can do quad queue
cold plaza
should I focus sigilyph?
stable tundra
focus on the middle opponent, if that is what you meant
cold plaza
whose sync should i use first?
cold plaza
Im not syncing twice before his first
stable tundra
+quadqueue
plucky swanBOT
Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!
The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.
Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :
- If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
- If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)
stable tundra
have you known about this technique?
stable tundra
avoid using Olympia's TM as her first action, click Calm Mind first so you can d...
her shield effect runs out right before sync, so please note this
cold plaza
but if Im syncing with sidney why do I need Olympias TM?
stable tundra
she needs crit buffs to assist with her dmg
cold plaza
can I send a video of the battle? cuz I think I'm missing some part here
stable tundra
yes, go ahead
cold plaza
also is Skyla gridded?
yes
stable tundra
with TM MPR and full Potion tiles, right?
cold plaza
with TM MPR and full Potion tiles, right?
stable tundra
hmm, how about trying Nessa + Liza instead? Nessa doesn't need grid but getting TM MPR is appreciated
cold plaza
Is it Liza serperior_
crude drumBOT
General Pool
Liza (Summer 2023) & Celesteela
cold plaza
so nessa Liza and Skyla?
stable tundra
yeah, try the team first
cold plaza
similar results
stable tundra
do you care about candy coin rewards from themed missions? or just first time reward?
cold plaza
first time
stable tundra
alright, try Skyla, Viola and SS Lysandre
use Infestation first to inflict trap, and make sure opponents' spatk is always at neutral
cold plaza
getting Sigilyph to about 30% hp
proud marten
kindred light
Upgraded my gear a little more, got a freeze right before he attacked in his second to last move before sync, and Articuno survived the sync. Allowing Greninja to hit the second dark sync and blue to finish off the fight. Absolute worst of the ultimate battles
frozen meteor
Rough as hell
frozen meteor
also
i knew like natural remedy would be useful at some point
because heat wave ACTUALLY burned Eusine
talk about foreseight
gentle wharf
Easier than doing it on type before NC Silver appeared I’d say lol
frozen meteor
Easier than doing it on type before NC Silver appeared I’d say lol
how
crude marten
ss diantha zone issue mainly
frozen meteor
it's really tough to
minmax everything
I want to do something like
Emma and Oleanna
both support role cakes are gonna be a huge damage bump
but like
the support has to be able to
max out their defenses while debuffing at the same time
crude marten
well oleana is tanking
frozen meteor
a great idea
frozen meteor
well oleana is tanking
bro...
crude marten
im assuming this is for darach
crude marten
triple offense has been done btw
frozen meteor
triple offense has been done btw
wait really?