Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[short gate]

If you have 5 minutes, I can screenshare

[valid raft]

I'm free

Also Mael hasn't updated the docs?

[final yacht]

I've got someone to do it for me

they said they'd be starting today

[shrewd marten]

That’s crazy

[valid raft]

You gonna pay them?

[final yacht]

if I start getting paid for all the docs i do maybe

[shrewd marten]

Ask Dena for a raise

[final yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[surreal torrent]

Is the Marnie battle challenge 2 winnable without needing Garbodor?

I’m trying to complete this mission

[obsidian meadow]

Yes use Hop and any random poison

3rd can be your most invested Galar

[surreal torrent]

I have Amoonguss

[surreal torrent]

And then my next investment Galar sync is most likely either Toxtricity or Dragapult

[obsidian meadow]

Either should be very helpful indeed

[surreal torrent]

I got that one out of the way. Now what about this one?

I don’t have any fire sync pairs from Galar

[stable tundra]

you have to bring an off region Fire

[surreal torrent]

I don’t think I have anyone that can help out with this

It looks like only Charizard and/or Cinderace can take down this Bisharp quickly

[stable tundra]

they don't have to be the one dealing dmg

just let the Galar dmg dealer does the job

[surreal torrent]

The thing is, I tried using Dragapult or even Grimmsnarl and their moves doesn’t do anything

Even when using Dragapult to lower the Bisharp’s stats and then using dragon darts, nothing happened

[stable tundra]

Dragapult is designed to win this stage easily

try Hop/Sonia, Leon (Alt.) and a bulky Fire type like SS Morty or Flannery

[surreal torrent]

Aight

[lunar sedge]

Dragapult has piercing blows which ignore defensive passives

[surreal torrent]

Does the 2/5 Dragapult make a difference?

[lunar sedge]

1/5 is fine

No need to candy

[surreal torrent]

Cause mine is 2/5 so I’m hoping I don’t need to grid him or anything

Is critical strike 2 a need for this?

[stable tundra]

nope

just make sure Dragapult has max offensive stats

and do triple queue properly

[surreal torrent]

Why can’t he be quick with this? SS Morty won’t be able to last the Bisharp’s sync move and I need him to stay up to compete this

[stable tundra]

no you don't

only an unit is allowed to faint

after Morty is fainted, the other 2 will finish the work

[surreal torrent]

Okay so

I don’t know how, but SS Morty managed to last that sync move even though he didn’t need to

[terse geyser]

Finally did palmer with pikatrio but my chase was 2/5, felt very satisfying

[rotund oasis]

Triple rats huh 😮

[normal tide]

Is the mission even achievable with my lineup?

[obsidian meadow]

Did you try a NC Marnie team?

[normal tide]

Yeah but n marnie isn't enough to save the other two

I managed to beat the stage but can't do it without the other two fainting

[obsidian meadow]

Does that include trying with Serena to keep the opponents asleep?

[normal tide]

Tried that but the opponent will recover with nullification

[obsidian meadow]

Super rough

[pliant jewel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNMX2Jb-Lbs

[normal tide]

I'll try it

[shrewd marten]

Has anyone been insane enough to try ubs with palmer

I gotta know

[stone scarab]

im sure people have tried, he just has a few issues with regards to UB performance

[shrewd marten]

Sadge

[stone scarab]

Crush Grip scaling being an obvious one, but being the main DPS while also being the zone setter on a team makes for an awkward time as well

[shrewd marten]

I would try but I’m palmerless

[stone scarab]

and he also has no extension attached to his zone whatsoever

[shrewd marten]

I don’t think extension would be good in him

Cuz he needs to do his damage in bursts anyway

[stone scarab]

for standard play, sure, but when youre fighting an enemy as tanky as an UB extension helps significantly

especially Darach

[shrewd marten]

Well no for ub I think extension not good on him

2 uses isn’t enough

[stone scarab]

he has MPR on his grid

[shrewd marten]

Well I guess u couuuuuld just get really lucky

[stone scarab]

but having even Extension 3 would just help his performance by letting him actually attack for longer between zone setting

hes still dealing with Crush Grip scaling but like, if they release another strong normal type DPS (+nuke hopefully) that isnt recoilciding like Hugh does, the lack of Extension will become a noticable downside i feel

[lone bramble]

Do you think getting Rei to 2/5 EXR will be enough?

Rn he's 1/5 EX

[stone scarab]

I dont think itd make a significant difference for it, at least not the 2/5 part

Unless you're tanking with Rei for Super Desperate you're not really getting much in the way of boosted damage for him with it, and you seem to be missing quite a bit in the way of damage as it is

Strike EX Role might make a more significant impact since +40 attack isn't bad, but i still dont think itd be enough

[lone bramble]

Quad queued Rei's b move but it got endured

Would have been another 10ish% gone

[stone scarab]

Palmer doesnt have any endurance passive to him

[lone bramble]

Then why'd it do so little damage?

it did less than the previous b-moves by a lot

[stone scarab]

i wouldnt know

[lone bramble]

With 4 sync buffs

[stone scarab]

maybe there was a difference in the amount of stacked PMUN

[lone bramble]

Okay I'll go try again and see what happened

[stone scarab]

that seems like the most reasonable answer to me anyway

[lone bramble]

Yeah on the 2nd one I had 5 PMUN and SEUN

[tawdry bone]

Does this beat Argenta?

[stone scarab]

it has a reasonable chance, id say

[tawdry bone]

How could I make it better?

[shrewd marten]

Buff defense

Candy adaman(you don’t have to do it probably)

[tawdry bone]

Wasn't even close

Palmer might be easier for me tbh

[true lagoon]

get a better support

ss erika needs to spend a bunch of turns buffing herself

also dont use adaman’s b move twice

she clears rebuff at 50%

[shrewd marten]

Oh wait a sec

I forgot he has no drought alert on base

Terribad

[true lagoon]

also not being able to clear psychic terrain kinda hurts

[tawdry bone]

Yeah I give up with her lmao

How would this perform against Thornton? And what's the basic strategy for him

[shrewd marten]

Why are

Literally just kill it

You have the double cheat code

[tawdry bone]

I'm terrible at thus game that's why I'm asking for advice

[shrewd marten]

Well

You can copy paste the thing I. The document

There are video examples you can follow

[tawdry bone]

Case in point lmao

[true lagoon]

use leer more he shouldnt have positive defense

also another dps would help a lot more than ssac

[shrewd marten]

Also

Go to the do

Doc

Find a team u can copy

Study the video

Win

[lone bramble]

Will getting Rei to 2/5 be enough to clear now? After a bunch of attempts and stacking PMUNs on the last Bmove I was able to get it down to this much. Maybe I can get past with Super Desperate and the increased move damage from 2/5?
I think I've taken out slightly more hp a few times. But this is very close to my best attempt.

[covert marlin]

you might have a better chance with using Riley EXR as well so you need to drop 4 sync moves

it will be quite easier if you have Rei 3/5 for triple headstart, but you can try lucky skill headstart for Rosa/Riley so you sync after the first three moves with Riley Max move

[lone bramble]

With Riley and max move quad queue I can already sync in one turn. The damage feels lacking with Riley tho, but I'll try again.

[shrewd marten]

did you turn denial

[lone bramble]

Yes, I'm KOing side to deny turn

[shrewd marten]

hm

super powered 3?

[lone bramble]

No Rei has HS1. Need the accel. Or I might have to grid Propulsion on Geeta.

[shrewd marten]

i mean why not

also he shouldnt

put it on rosa

hs1 rosa, innate hs1 and then trainer move

[lone bramble]

Rosa has Adr1 for quad queue consistency

Or do I try to quad queue her TM?

[shrewd marten]

yes

[lone bramble]

And CS2 on Riley? Or SP3?

Rei*

[shrewd marten]

sp3 on rei

[lone bramble]

Alright lemme give this a try

Ty!

[valid raft]

I managed to clear Palmer with Rei only having CS2

[lone bramble]

Mine is 1/5

[lone bramble]

Might he possible. Gonna save Geeta's TM for the final Rei Bmove and see if that does the trick

Also I'm pretty sure Rei is at +4 atk, might have to reset for +2 from Rosa

[lone bramble]

Any more optimizations I can make? I'm so close. I recorded this run if needed.

[stable tundra]

what do your skill gears look like?

[lone bramble]

Really bad tbh

[stable tundra]

yeah it doesn't help Rei much

[lone bramble]

Unflappable makes bracelet useless

Bandanna*

[valid raft]

Do you even have Rei's exclusive feather skill?

[lone bramble]

Nope

Thinking about using this for bandanna, has the Sinnoh theme

[pale mica]

So, what's the mostest impossiblest EB you've done?

[crude marten]

is rosa and geeta 3/5?

[valid raft]

Depends

[pale mica]

Hau was impossible for me

[lone bramble]

Rosa is 1/5, Geeta is 3/5

[crude marten]

rosa exr?

[lone bramble]

Yes, Rosa 1/5 EXR, Rei 1/5 EXR, Geeta 3/5 EXR. All max level.

[crude marten]

you said rosa is 1/5

[lone bramble]

My mistake

She is 1/5

Giving Geeta 3rd sync, quad queuing RS cause no gauge, TM on Rei, survive sync then b move

In the last screenshot, I could have saved one of Rosa's TMs for the end and that might have been enough. +5 PMUN as opposed to +3

Also got a better bandanna now, +4% moves against poisoned enemies

[lone bramble]

This one

[crude marten]

ill try in a bit

[crude marten]

@lone bramble needs a lil bit fishing for attack up from rosa and at least 3 def debuff to deny snorlax

also i grid geeta for tm mpr but she didnt trigger it here even though it should make the run easier if she did

not sure why he queues rockslide and not max moves at the end lol thats the first time ive seen that actually

[dry zephyr]

What are we watching? All I saw was no quad queue after rei sync

[crude marten]

my phone was lagging so spare me please

[dry zephyr]

Hahaha j nice clear

[crude marten]

geeta grid https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/29500/97000?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFDxATFhgZKCos

[lone bramble]

I'm trying again now, will stack 9 PMUN for first b move like you did

[crude marten]

since you want to quad with rosa tm anyway dc2 works best for her

[forest minnow]

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble dealing with Marnie's Grimmsnarl in the event as that thing is wayyy too bulky and her sync hits hard if I focus too much on offense, is there some gimmick to lower her bulk? I've tried poisoning her but she's still too bulky to deal with...

[valid raft]

It's Rose and Oleana's Battle Challenge. Marnie is weak to poison, which is Oleana's type and Oleana has poison rebuff after using her max move, which is what is used to counter Marnie's Acute Senses

Acute Senses is countered by status change like confusion, trap, restrain, etc. But rebuff is the one that is permanent unless it is cured

[lone bramble]

Gg!!! Thanks so much!!!

[crude marten]

lets gooo

very nice gj

[fading walrus]

Based Geeta carry

[lone bramble]

It really isn't, Rei does most of the heavy lifting

[forest minnow]

I tried applying both Toxic and trapping but my damage with Allister was still too low... Prob need to lv him up more to lv140 (he's lv135 now), or maybe normal Poison deals more than Toxic in the first turns of the battle, so I should prioritize that over Toxic?

[fading walrus]

No way, in the stage specifically made for him?

[lone bramble]

Wasn't expecting to clear at 1/5

Considering that I'd say Rei did pretty well

[crude marten]

hes just being sarcastic, yeah the stage itself seems to be tailor made for rei

[lone bramble]

Yeah, don't think this is possible without the accel or other highly invested pairs

Rats and such

[fading walrus]

Yeah 1/5 Rei still works as well as 1/5 NC Rosa and better thsn 1/5 chop by not little here

[valid raft]

Palmer is tailor-made for sprint units

While Darach wants a field unit

Anabel wants debuffs and weather replacers, which is what most tech units are

[lone bramble]

I've cleared Darach and Palmer

Don't think I have the pairs for any other UBs

[lone bramble]

Honestly didn't think the damage would be enough. I was close to candying Rei to 2/5, glad I didn't.

[crude marten]

you can nyoom palmer so fast even with just 1/5 rei with proper team comp

[lone bramble]

But that would've just given me more margin for error

Even in this run I messed up a little and still cleared

[fading walrus]

You can easily clear Argenta

[lone bramble]

Really?

Wait let me check the doc

[valid raft]

Yeah, all Argenta needs is a weather replacer and someone who can double rebuff

[crude marten]

you can semi stall with ss leaf and bertha

[lone bramble]

This is the only team I have all the pairs for. But Cerena and Rosa are 1/5 EXR

[crude marten]

dark even did a full f2p units on her

[lone bramble]

I don't have L Gladion, Sycamore EX and Bertha is 1/5

[stable tundra]

that team still needs good skill gears anyway

[fading walrus]

You likely can win with alternatives

I got 1 poison proc away with ssmorty, SS Roxie and oleana for example

All 1/5 except 2/5 Morty

[raven nacelle]

Yay! Finally!

[rotund oasis]

Nice 😮

[valid raft]

Ugh, almost did Darach with Chase/NC Red/Irida

[shrewd marten]

Hasn’t it been done before with ssac

[valid raft]

Has there ever been a recorded clear for it?

[shrewd marten]

me dunno

but roplame always does the thing

i remember seeing a screenshot of it

@low coral im not trippin right

[fast pendant]

He has done all with irida, ssac and NC red

So yeah

[low coral]

I did all of them with those, yeah

I did Darach with Chase as well, just didn't post on YouTube

But I think I posted the video on Discord itself

[low coral]

#1009557516369281075 message here

[shrewd marten]

i trust in roplame

if there is a piece of content

it will be cleared with irida articuno and someone

[low coral]

I think I was challenging myself to pre-sync a UB off-type without stunning as well

So no flinch, sleep, or freeze

[fading walrus]

I'm hopefully getting a new phone soon, one that maybe can run Irida or Geeta without making their extended wtzs last 6 turns

Instead of 9 or more

[fast pendant]

What does your phone have to do with it

[valid raft]

Prolly getting used to the performance of the phone

[fast pendant]

That doesn't have anything to do with how much the wtz lasts regardless

[true lagoon]

lag

their device lags really bad on recordings especially

and that directly affects how long wtz lasts

[fast pendant]

where does this information come from

[true lagoon]

wtz is based on a timer not actions taken

and also ive seen their recordings it lags like crazy

[fast pendant]

I know it's based on a timer, and lag doesn't affect game timer, it only affects how you perceive the games effects making it unstable.

Performance won't increase wtz duration

If it only last 6 moves, that's 'cause the animations, which does happen with NC Red and Irida

[fast pendant]

#1009554906568462476 is more appropriate

[jaunty stump]

Oops righty

[forest minnow]

Oof, I managed to cheese a win against Marnie and Grimmsnarl using a team of Hop, Allister and Lucian and Girafarig.
Unfortunately Hop died at the very last turn, but it was the third time I reset the fight so I won't try it again

[formal crescent]

I can't seem to do the ultimate battles even using the same pairs, grid, etc

Trying to do Darach with SST Red, NC Blue, and NC Red

[viral ocean]

i did it with the same team

just use electric terrain at the exact time+ sync properly+ quadqueue and it should be easy

[formal crescent]

wait ive been trying with NC Blue, NC Red and Irida. Sorry the teams blur together

[viral ocean]

then it's even easier considering irida buffs nc red's damage

[formal crescent]

And I meant Thorton angfdsyrtg im sorry my brain is just fried

but good to know

ok, I've been using NC Blue, Irida, and SST Red for that

[viral ocean]

i beat thorton with nc leaf, nc blue and sst red but i think your team also works

change sst red into nc red because they work better together

[formal crescent]

okay

yeah I think I tried switching to NC Red

[viral ocean]

she has hail and ice zone which buffs NC Red's damage by 50% each, so it should be fine

[low coral]

Was that an actual clear?

Irida is very far from ideal vs Thorton

She's probably doing more against your team than in favor, even

As Blue already can have some problems tanking Thorton, doing it with Irida on the team is a nightmare for him

[fading walrus]

Does it? Are you 100% sure?

So your Geeta ends first poison zone after 6 actions taken too?

Because my victrier lasts til 9 and the only difference is that Geeta makes stages lag

[fast pendant]

That's not the only difference

[fading walrus]

And my irida never ever gets to sync even with extensions

Even with sync cd lol

[fast pendant]

Geeta has way bigger animations

[fading walrus]

Ok can you record a random teamcomp

I'll copy it and we can compare

[fast pendant]

Geeta also doesn't tend to use tm while Victor uses 2 times

[fading walrus]

Or if you have, let's say, an old recording Vs an UB or something

[true lagoon]

im sorry what was that music in the background lol

[earnest panther]

Runner really listening to theatrical big shot.

[true lagoon]

lmao i was thinking is this just spamton’s theme

[final yacht]

whatthefuckwhatthefuckwhatthefuckwhatthefuckwhatthefuckwhatthefuck

[shrewd marten]

youve been putting it off for about a month now havent you?

[formal crescent]

:(

[small basin]

why frown

[formal crescent]

Because I died

[small basin]

blue died too?

[formal crescent]

Yep

[small basin]

he have vigilance? that's surprising

[formal crescent]

No I was following the grid and lucky skill given in the doc

[small basin]

what's the ls in the doc? flameproof?

[formal crescent]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhAmKSssLQ&v1=028500047100&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFExQVGBkdICI&v2=000003014400&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13016303&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFDA8fISIkKCstLg

adrenaline

[small basin]

lmao do not use adrenaline

if anything just use red's tm post sync, it'll yield the same results

[formal crescent]

oh true

[small basin]

vigilance is the way to go, or maybe even in this case cs2 for that little extra damage

flameproof also works so he doesnt have to use b roost right after her sacred fire

you got really close, don't feel too discouraged, it's definitely possible

[formal crescent]

thank you!

[formal crescent]

WOO

Thank you so much!

[small basin]

Did vigilance help?

Doesnt look like it with how all three are almost at max hp

But i’m interested to hear the strat either way

[swift marten]

Is it possible to clear Annabel with this team? I’ve tried many iterations and this is about as far as I can go. The team can’t survive the move after the 2nd sync, if the sync didn’t take them out.

[stable tundra]

does everyone have Vigilance?

ik Red doesn't

[true lagoon]

it should be possible but you need rain dance mprs

[stable tundra]

i think you only need one

one for each sun setup

[true lagoon]

probably

[swift marten]

No, May has DC2, I forgot to switch on Vigilance on Blue after I switched grids. Will try again with Vigilance on all

Switched May to DC2 due to the Fluid Fortification on Annabel

[stable tundra]

i think Red

's and Blue's debuffs are enough

[true lagoon]

if your sst is 3/5 and im assuming he is

they can debuff enough

[swift marten]

Yah he’s 3/5EXR.

[true lagoon]

yeah then may doesnt need dc2

nc blue and sst debuff 5 stats amongst them every turn

[swift marten]

Ok. Let me try again with Vigilance on them. Thanks

[true lagoon]

also since ur running sst with nc blue try running electrorepulsion

[swift marten]

Yup, already running Electrorepulsion on NC Blue

[swift marten]

Yes finally!! Vigilance on all did the trick. Finally got rid of all the irritating exclamation marks on the ultimate battles for now. Million thanks to Gakon and Taiyo for the advice!

Oops wrong image

[stable tundra]

Congrats but i think you posted the wrong screenshot

[swift marten]

Should be this one instead 😂

[true lagoon]

now if only my sst was 3/5

id have an easier time even cuz i got ss kris

[gentle wharf]

Hmm Lucy

Should be doable with my roster unlike Palmer haha

Worst comes to worst I’ll just roll antitoxin on my units

[fair sorrel]

Wait what she weak again?

[true lagoon]

ground

[fair sorrel]

Oh. I only have Maxie, Cynthia and Giovanni for that.

But only my gio is 3/5 the rest of the ground strikers at 1/5 so uh…. this is gonna be fun.

[stable tundra]

you don't have Courtney?

she demands speed debuffs too

[true lagoon]

you can off type

she has very low hp for a ub

dont you have sst or am i misremembering

[fair sorrel]

I do have Courtney

I do have SST.

[true lagoon]

3/5?

[fair sorrel]

Mhm.

[true lagoon]

then lucy shouldnt be an issue

[valid raft]

She has 2 endures, each endure curing everything even rebuffs

[spice basin]

She doesn't have a rebuff tied gimmick though

[rotund oasis]

Funny enough... Volo / Gible uses Bulldoze lol

could work with Bertha + SC Lyra

[novel fog]

Is there a clear for the "Hear the cheers" VA for part 2 using Fire + Dragon types?

I don't have any Galar fire/dragons

[lunar sedge]

https://youtu.be/BNMX2Jb-Lbs?si=npnY9vXfW5R29gKc this is the most free you could get for the type missions

Tho you can always show us your Galar, dragon and fire roster, usually the idea is to use one Galar dps and offregion the mission types

[novel fog]

Exactly what i tried, Didn't seem to work

I'll post it here hold on

[rotund oasis]

What teams have you tried?

[lunar sedge]

Drake/Oleana/NC Leaf might work but I don't know how good the gauge would be

[novel fog]

Mainly tried to use NCRed with NCLeaf and another random dragon type just to tank hits

[rotund oasis]

Mid has Wise Entryx2, its going to be tough for NC Red tbh o.o

[novel fog]

Yeah I assume it was the problem

[lunar sedge]

I've used 1/5 Oleana (albeit EX) for this before and with NC leaf she should be fine, she could tank the hits

What I'm worried most however is the gauge, while both drake and oleana does have access to gauge boost, that means taking away 1-2 turns of damage for gauge in Oleana case

[novel fog]

I'll give it a shot

Yeah I can't queue

[warm haven]

Finally dena listened to my prayers...

[novel fog]

She doesn't even tank

[lunar sedge]

Are you lowering their stats?

Oleana could tank hits by debuffing their atk stats to oblivion

[novel fog]

Yeah I do use venoshock

[rotund oasis]

Hmm Lodge Volo has Tough Sync 3 and Slo-pponent 3

otherwise, he has DPS with Furious Brawn + Hunter's Instinct

ah he has Sand Blaster 5

[novel fog]

Is Darach beatable with 1/5 NCSilver and 1/5 SSDiantha

[rotund oasis]

I see a record of a 1/5 NC Silver clear but with Paulo + Bertha

I see an SS Diantha as well.

at 1/5 and EX

[novel fog]

Really? Couldn't find it

[rotund oasis]

I think you'd want Aura Cynthia as your general tank.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J_Wf9t4ZIOMwdlYEsIzgENDdYCut-AEX0pJiwbcIrVY/edit#gid=1924026928

[novel fog]

Can NCRosa do the job?

[rotund oasis]

not enough Field Effects with just 1/5 of SS Diantha and 1/5 NC Silver tbh.

[novel fog]

Ah crap

[stable tundra]

Just to confirm, are you attempting very hard?

[valid raft]

We are still talking about Darach right?

[crude marten]

yes

[true lagoon]

nc silver kinda makes darach free

[crude marten]

any support will do

[true lagoon]

sandstorm + 2 rock zones should be enough

[valid raft]

Yeah, SS Diantha + NC Silver should still easily clear it

[stable tundra]

Oh crap, this is not BR channel?

[novel fog]

Yes

[true lagoon]

well darach is an actual ub so it still fits

[novel fog]

Really?

Do I just refresh field effects before it wears off? every time?

[valid raft]

You have rock zone which already boosts Silver's damage by 50% and he has sandstorm to boost his damage too

[novel fog]

Can SS Acerola work as a support for PMUNs or sun may be a problem due to heat wave?

[valid raft]

You're contradicting it because of Silver

[novel fog]

Actually I think a speed buffer should be better

[novel fog]

Oh, correct

[valid raft]

Tho SS Acerola can still help set up PMUN stacks

[novel fog]

She's pretty much my only physical support

I have NCRosa who can provide PMUN stacks as well

[valid raft]

Because she gives PMUN for the team whenever an ally applies a field, and both NC Silver and SS Diantha do it. She also can heal herself with grassy terrain, even more along with your team if she's 3/5

[novel fog]

She's 4/5, using some +4 energy grid

[valid raft]

Oh wait, she's weak to flying

[novel fog]

That's true, but so is NCRosa in Pirouette form

My other options are all special supports

[true lagoon]

well nc rosa can actually take a hit

unlike ss acerola

[valid raft]

She has physical mit. under grassy terrain

And she also buffs defenses for the team too

[novel fog]

Yeah, +4 with her TM

But Rosa gets team stoic

[valid raft]

+2 only

[novel fog]

Oh what

mb ;-;

Rosa gets both stoic and forcefield

[true lagoon]

well the only special move they use is heat wave

not a big deal unless you get the 5% burn proc in which case lmao

[novel fog]

Yeah I'd just reset I guess

Does brave bird hit hard

[true lagoon]

kinda

his sync is probably the thing to watch out for

if ur gonna use nc rosa

[valid raft]

It's painful

[novel fog]

I doubt I can pre-sync with both Diantha and Silver at 1/5

keyboard

[valid raft]

Well, Rosa has sprint EXR

[true lagoon]

you dont have to presync

[valid raft]

Well, I mean their damage dealers are 1/5

So I mean they kinda do

Especially with 1/5 SS Diantha

[novel fog]

Yeah she has no damage

Only zone

and defense buffs/debuffs

[valid raft]

Actually, I just remembere that SS Diantha buffs your team's defenses

Her B Move can deal some damage

[crude marten]

she has decent damage output

[novel fog]

Its meh, the fact that's it is AOE makes it even worse

[novel fog]

At 1/5?

[crude marten]

also def debuff is useful for silver bmove later on

yeah

[valid raft]

It's more like she's doesn't have the thing where AoE moves don't have AoE penalty like most B Moves

[crude marten]

rock zone, silver sand passive, silver master passive

it will do good damage especially on darach

[valid raft]

Also SS Diantha has her TM which does -1 sync CD unless Rosa has Adrenaline

[novel fog]

Aight

[novel fog]

She does not, but she has EXR

Does Johto circle count as a field effect for Darach's gimmick ?

[valid raft]

Do you know how to quadqueue?

[novel fog]

Yeah

[valid raft]

Circle only affects your side

[novel fog]

Ah makes sense

[valid raft]

Darach needs a field that affects him

Which is why Bertha is good here

[novel fog]

For both SR and Sandstorm?

[valid raft]

Yes

[novel fog]

Could she work tho? I have her at 4/5

[valid raft]

In fact, I think Bertha should be your tank and support unit

[novel fog]

I doubt I have the resources to upgrade her further

[valid raft]

Just need to grid her

And she also lowers attack

And she has mits., buffs and healing under sandstorm

[novel fog]

130 is prob the max I can do

If that's good enough?

No EX

[valid raft]

I don't have NC Silver so I can't test it myself

[novel fog]

Ah

Are her tanking capabilities equivalent to supports tho?

[valid raft]

She's a capable tank

Like I said, she lowers attack stat so she helps with tanking Darach's sync well

And she sets up sandstorm too for Silver while he extends it so yeah

At minimum, Bertha + Silver can set up Sandstorm a total of 4 times

[novel fog]

Is it a good idea to have both Rock zone and Sandstorm up at the same time or it won't last long enough?

[valid raft]

What's going to be your team is the question

[novel fog]

I think SS Diantha/NC Silver/Bertha

[valid raft]

Because if you put Bertha, then you don't need to worry about sandstorm much

[novel fog]

Ah I see

I assume she wants Vigilance?

Which I don't have access to at the moment

[novel fog]

Should I be fine Gauge-wise tho?

[crude marten]

if youre not used to rosa tm quad adrenaline is good options

assuming if you can kill pre 2nd sync vigil isnt really needed

[novel fog]

I dont have Adrenaline pretty sure

I can quad queue, but prob not with sing

Last time I tried it it was pretty hard to pull off

[crude marten]

vigil is fine

[novel fog]

On Rosa?

[crude marten]

yep

[novel fog]

So SS Diantha/NC Silver/NC Rosa

I have cs1 on Silver

[crude marten]

it should be fine

[novel fog]

Ah great then

[pure bobcat]

Can I only burn Thorton once? How am I supposed to beat him in the course of 1 burn?

[valid raft]

He can be burnt permanent

[stable tundra]

i recommend reading his gimmicks in the pinned doc

[marble flume]

Thorton doesn’t care about being Burned anyway, status condition =/= status change

[pure bobcat]

I misunderstood. So status changes are just lowering his stats? I figured cus the game was yelling at me to burn him that it meant he needed a status condition and I didn't know the wording

And I have read the doc

[stable tundra]

this is the list of status change, please check it out: #1092823068256251945 message

restrain and rebuff are the best status change to deal with him

[pure bobcat]

Ok. I had NC blue and leaf adding rebuff. I guess I just screwed up my play. I'll watch some more replays

[formal crescent]

Honestly I think it did

[lavish marsh]

Now... can the Rats go through the poison?

For Lucy

[fast pendant]

You can just give them antitoxin

[eternal yacht]

What's Lucy's gimmick?

[lavish marsh]

Poison. I think that's it.

[fast pendant]

Hostile environment 10 to apply Poison, and has multipliers when the opponent is poisoned, 2 endurance points, buffs speed which turns into multipliers

[eternal yacht]

So basically Roxanne is the MVP now?

And Adaman is the main DD?

Because he is already burned

So basically I gotta get Adaman to do this one

Maybe Gio can do it too

[fast pendant]

Several units will be able to do it, it's not a super hard condition

Specially being able to change LS super often now

[eternal yacht]

The HP is pretty small yeah

Roxanne seems more necessary

[fast pendant]

Roxanne can shut the stage down fairly easily, but I don't think necessary is anywhere close

[eternal yacht]

Tbh yeah the HP is that small they may die fast

But she has 2 thresholds

[rigid pivot]

i have og cythina as my only ""good" ground dps but idk if thats enough lol

[stable tundra]

do you have Courtney?

[fair sorrel]

Oh right I need to apply Ash, Zapdos, and SST with Anti-Toxin. Gonna do that real quick so can prepare for it.

[lavish marsh]

1. Give the rats Antitoxin
2. ???
3. Profit

[rigid pivot]

Yes

Courtney and Bertha

Don’t have ingo tho

[stable tundra]

Courtney helps a lot to deal with Lucy's gimmicks

[rigid pivot]

How so? I thought her main thing was poisoning everyone and wearing them down slowly

[stable tundra]

She also buffs speed every time she performs an action, and her speed multipliers are huge

You must debuff her speed, which is covered by Courtney's Bulldoze with Trip Up 9

[rigid pivot]

Ah ok, so would cortney be better off on her own than with cythina? Cause with cythina I kinda have to bring Bertha too

[stable tundra]

Courtney is also ontype and can enable another Ground type to clear faster

[stable tundra]

What move level is your Cynthia?

[rigid pivot]

3/5

[stable tundra]

If you use her with Bertha, you have to find a way to debuff speed

[rigid pivot]

Ah alright

Maybe I’ll just try solo coutney then or use an offtype 2nd damage dealer because other than cythina my ground is all the F2P units

Like noami

[fair sorrel]

Unfortunately my Courtney isn’t 3/5.

[final yacht]

Who's gonna use Clay on Lucy

[final yacht]

||i need to change argenta's page so i'll add these later||

[shrewd marten]

What do you need to do to argenta

[final yacht]

Well look at her page

And compare it to the others

[shrewd marten]

It’s hard on mobile but not impossible like palmer

Is there too many is that the problem

The icons are big

[final yacht]

The formats are completely different

[warm haven]

The Lucy destroyer was lodge Volo all along

[broken crag]

rats and bird with antitoxin

[distant wigeon]

How can I beat the costume events Fight part 2? For the coin, I tried using archie 1/5 EX, lillie teapot 1/5 EX and seviper

Ugh nvm just realised i cud take any ground and ghost and just brute force any op pair💀

[grizzled portal]

Bertha is pretty solid for it iirc, I used her

[novel fog]

feels like I don't have enough field effects uptime, am I supposed to not apply rock zone when sandstorm is up?

[final yacht]

definitely

[novel fog]

Alright

I think the damage is gonna fall off by a lot, that's -50% at base without zone, and I can't even debuff/buff defense early

[crude marten]

you should avoid using rosas bmove too much it kills your zone time

[novel fog]

That seems unbeatable with both Silver and Diantha at 1/5, ngl

[crude marten]

@novel fog

silver and rosa no grid, only using rock gear here

very bad timing sleep proc on rosa too

[broken crag]

how do you get the percentage thing to show up

never seen it before

[crude marten]

new ui qol

[broken crag]

o

[crude marten]

you can find it in the settings

[broken crag]

bruh that makes it easier in UB to knw when they reach endure

[crude marten]

its really helpful

[lone bramble]

Hey wanted to thank you again. I cleared Palmer using the rotation I was using before (a 2nd time I mean). The Geeta grid you gave me was a game changer. Was able to clean presync!

[crude marten]

oo nice great work

[wary hemlock]

lucy UB is for which MF

[jade marsh]

SC Adaman

[valid raft]

Foxanne + Viovanni

[wary hemlock]

wait why foxanne?

i get the b move

but i dont think she prevent poison

[valid raft]

It is because of her B Move

And also Foxanne has stat buff prevention

At 3/5

[wary hemlock]

i was thinking of using lisia for aoe poison protect

[valid raft]

That's what most people are thinking

[wary hemlock]

anyone has team vig

as passive

[crude marten]

vlyra

team raincoat

[wary hemlock]

oh

[rotund oasis]

@peak mist this could work o.o

[peak mist]

Which unit is this again?

[rotund oasis]

Lodge Jasmine

[peak mist]

Don’t think I’ve done lodge jasmine yet

Waiting till afternoon to update app for sake of login deal thing cause want to talk to fam about it before doing it even if it’s just a dollar from sounds of it. Working on Cynthia rn last I checked was at like 75/100

[rotund oasis]

there's also this one.

[peak mist]

Don’t own Tina

[rotund oasis]

BP Barry

[peak mist]

Prob a little outdated but

Gives an idea of my box

[rotund oasis]

even has Anti toxin too.

[peak mist]

Interesting

At least there’s options around. Was asking since thinking about Serena, gladion, and the tank for what I try first

[rotund oasis]

oh what the. pomatools died rofl hmm

[rotund oasis]

there's this too.

Just needs Antitoxin tbh

and she's tanky enough too lol

[peak mist]

I uh. Don’t think I pulled that pair

I’ll prob let bp Barry be a try ig

Anyways ima sleep now gn

[rotund oasis]

o/

[novel fog]

Rosa is 3/5 EXR tho, the other two are at 1/5

[crude marten]

your rosa is 3/5?

[novel fog]

Yeah

[crude marten]

exr?

[novel fog]

Mhm

[crude marten]

mine is too but im not using any grid there

you can replicate the clear

[novel fog]

What about Silver and Diantha?

Are they 1/5?

[crude marten]

silver 3/5 no exr but i didnt take any nodes

diantha is 1/5

[novel fog]

Ah

Well I don't have rock gear

[crude marten]

any good skill gear?

[novel fog]

Not at all

[crude marten]

well running offtype gear is fine ig just see if the damage is enough

3/5 rosa can get you another pmun stack from first used tm

[novel fog]

I'll try it, ty

[crude marten]

goodluck

[novel fog]

The main mistake I have made was delaying sync to not miss on a BMove with Silver

Ty!

[novel fog]

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, is it about applying rock zone too early?

[valid raft]

When exactly are you applying it?

[novel fog]

[novel fog]

First time before 2nd sync

[valid raft]

LMFAO. So what changed?

[novel fog]

Second time after sandstorm is about to run out

Should be around pre 4th sync?

[novel fog]

No idea tbh

Maybe last rock zone was too early

[valid raft]

You synced with Diantha, and she has a multiplier where her sync damage increases if there's rock zone active

And I'm guessing she syncs after Silver

[novel fog]

She does

Silver only syncs once to refresh sandstorm

[shrewd marten]

You could try sync with Rosa diantha then rock zone right before silver syncs

[valid raft]

Then yeah, that is key

If you synced with Diantha, then you need to save that last Rock Wish

[novel fog]

Why's that? she doesn't refresh it with sync iirc?

[novel fog]

Thought of it

[valid raft]

She doesn't unless you have her 3/5 which then has MPR

[novel fog]

I do not, they're both at 1/5

Just Rosa is 3/5

[valid raft]

Well, you did it anyways right?

[novel fog]

Yes

I'm losing it

[valid raft]

Did you win or did you lose?

[crude marten]

you can follow my rotation to make it easier

[shrewd marten]

I mean he did just say he’s losing it

[novel fog]

lost my mind

[high harbor]

I have a team for argenta, but I need to upgrade their move levels
ss acerola, ss lyra and mix red

[true lagoon]

where is the interference

[warm haven]

Lyra

[true lagoon]

ok so i guess shes just going first all the time?

does mix red nuke hard enough though

[warm haven]

That should be yeah

Well Lyra ontype does sync hard

[crude drum]

Sygna Suit Lyra & Celebi

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_GRASS:967452395804192788> Grassy Glide

Gauge: 3 | Power: 100 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Will not consume the move gauge when the terrain is Grassy Terrain.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Dire Hit All +

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: All allies
Effect Tag: -
Raises the critical-hit rate of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_GRASS:967452395804192788> Grassy Terrain

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Entire field
Effect Tag: -
Turns the field of play's terrain into Grassy Terrain.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Voice of the Forest!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: An ally
Effect Tag: -
Raises an ally's Attack and Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks. Applies the Gradual Healing effect to an ally.

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_GRASS:967452395804192788> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Time-Transcending Magical Leaf

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
This attack's power increases when the terrain is Grassy Terrain.

[true lagoon]

hmm?

i guess thats fine

i think mix red does nuke harder tho

[kind wasp]

Btw, Lucian covers Psychic, Sinnoh, and Knowledgable for the BC so u just need a fairy type

[rotund oasis]

needs paldea or nah?

[lunar sedge]

That was easy

[solar stirrup]

Anyone have the nc silver/nc blue/sst red all ub clears?

[quick nexus]

https://youtu.be/eIX3SvGhptk?si=0WdaOpFY3-EyMPm_

[peak mist]

How much trouble would you say Palmer gives with this team? Might be copying the team next week is why I’m asking.

Grabbed silver today and happen to have the other two units used so

[final yacht]

I could try it if I can find a Silver replacement

Currently thinking of V Noland or Riley but eh

[warm haven]

Well if you can replicate the move order + quad queue it's a straightforward clear

I had a low rol in that clear so you could even need lees moves with a medium-high dmg roll

[rotund oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4iWbkCVG4M a slow clear D:

Master Fair Less clear o/

[shrewd marten]

Yo is that volo nuke gaming!

[rotund oasis]

Nuke

Lol no

[shrewd marten]

Yeah no lol

That is some garbage damage

It’s inching forward to the clear

[novel fog]

I need mental assistance with this clear

I can't make it

I'm doing the exact same thing

Is cs1 on NC Silver the problem

[crude marten]

well you might need it for extra damage

cs2 is easy to get though

[novel fog]

No cookies

at all

[rotund oasis]

Oh wait were in extreme battles my bad

[novel fog]

Why😞

Is Go Viral on Rosa's grid the problem

[shrewd marten]

I wanna see 5 sync buffs

Like a rock zone on 5 of ‘em

[novel fog]

trying

[shrewd marten]

I see 4 and no zone

[novel fog]

ITS 5 NOW

And zone was up

just flashing

maybe Go viral 9 messes this up cause they just use TMs instead of brutal swing and other moves

[shrewd marten]

You know if you slept him here you might’ve won

Or have tm smun pmun +1 first time

[novel fog]

;-;

[viral ocean]

oops

[shrewd marten]

Fish more potion

[novel fog]

Would EXR on Silver make it easier

I literally got to the 5th sync with 2/2 potions on Rosa

Insane potion luck, then both Diantha and Silver got critted

[shrewd marten]

Yis

Would be easy muchly

[novel fog]

Then I'll give it to him before giving it to SS Dawn

[solar stirrup]

Can someone check which units require cake?

I can't rn because of loading issues

[silver spruce]

All three are caked in that clear Ace

If I had to guess maybe blue doesnt need to be ex roled. The others would need it

[solar stirrup]

The -2 electric rebuff on everything might be necessary

[silver spruce]

Yeah but it’s mostly for the mid

The sides might be doable except probably Palmer

[viral ocean]

Is the kantrio capable of beating lucy ub?

or should I try other teams?

[true lagoon]

where speed debuff

[viral ocean]

idk what i need to do for lucy ub

i haven't checked it yet

[stone scarab]

anti-poison and speed debuffs

[viral ocean]

ok

[stone scarab]

preferably several speed debuffs in a short period of time

[viral ocean]

how do you filter sync pairs with speed debuffs

nvm

should i add shocking showdown 9 to sst red and also cakewalk?

[shrewd marten]

Of course

[viral ocean]

so i'll use nc blue with sst red with nc leaf/nc red

and i'll put anti-toxin

[true lagoon]

actually

you dont need antitoxin with nc leaf

cuz

[crude drum]

Team Solar Immunity

When the weather is sunny, status conditions cannot be inflicted on any allied sync pairs and prevents all allies from flinching, becoming confused, or becoming trapped.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Leaf (Champion) & Moltres
Lucas & Flareon

[true lagoon]

moment

[viral ocean]

oh thanks

should i replace my team with anyone?

[true lagoon]

no it should be fine

sst has speed debuffs and nc leaf can double

[viral ocean]

ok

[rotund oasis]

what the heck Lucy 😭

2 status change clear? ;_;

[spiral summit]

She has a lowest HP

And her side has really high HP so her stage favors Striker EX than Tech EX

[rotund oasis]

Oh

She doesnt have Resilience

HMMM

[shrewd marten]

wait are you sure?

[spiral summit]

You cant

Palmer/Argenta/Lucy dont have Resilience but they immune to sleep/freeze/flinch

[rotund oasis]

I was hoping for Bind 😮

[shrewd marten]

oh

cringeeeeeeeeeeeeee

palmer is a jerk

[rotund oasis]

Oh wait, she doesnt have that UB stuff that you can't damage them without a rebuff of sorts. hmm

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=014002003400&s1=4&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBgcKDBwfIigrLC0&v2=011300008100&s2=3&l2=140&r2=4&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBggLDhAmKCott this is what i'm currently cooking.

[shrewd marten]

there is a lack of cooking

no speed debuffs

but also thats literally just my palmer team

[rotund oasis]

Oh wait

[low coral]

There's a Icy Wind unit right there

[shrewd marten]

eh?

my thing

is bugged it seems

[spiral summit]

Why i see nothing ?

[shrewd marten]

😠

i saw my old team

[low coral]

Prob broken and defaults to last used team

[rotund oasis]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=014002003400&s1=4&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBgcKDBwfIigrLC0&v2=011300008100&s2=3&l2=140&r2=4&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBggLDhAmKCot <- here o.o

[shrewd marten]

um

this is a duo

[low coral]

On pomatools

[shrewd marten]

it got worse

[rotund oasis]

kek yeah

i'm kinda still cooking.

[shrewd marten]

hey if this wins

[broken crag]

how you gonna counter poison

[shrewd marten]

but yeah no speed debuff

gimme a speed debuff

[low coral]

They do have it

[rotund oasis]

Speed Debuffer is on Lodge Jasmine

o.o

[low coral]

Shocking Slowdown

But remember that doesn't work with Screech

Only attack moves

[rotund oasis]

yep.

[shrewd marten]

TIL

ah i see it now

i have eyes

amazing

i mean i believe

excvept this is really slow

like the team is slow

you need to zoom somehow

[rotund oasis]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011603074103&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFFRcYGRojJSksLQ&v1=014002003400&s1=4&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBgcKDBwfIigrLC0&v2=011300008100&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBggLDhAmKCot Here we go.

How's my cooking 🙂

[shrewd marten]

um

what exactly is dawn doing here

she just dammy?

[rotund oasis]

Gauge sheningans, Random Debuffing, and Nuke.

[shrewd marten]

you dont realoy have that much healing from what i can see

if you debuff fast enough i guess it wont be a problem but idk

[rotund oasis]

i'll have to see if it works.

otherwise

I go ham with SST Red, NC Blue and Clemont 🙂

[shrewd marten]

well yeah blue and red will never betray you

i dont even think clemont is necessary use the power of ash

[true lagoon]

sst has shockingn slowdown too

[rotund oasis]

expensive tbh ;-;

but we'll see

[rich heron]

So what about Lucy ultimate

[valid raft]

She has guaranteed poison

And has speed buff multipliers

[rotund oasis]

Tanking with Lodge Jasmine be like "Heh"

[valid raft]

Funnily enough, SS Mina will carry again because she has Team Whimsical Immunity

[stable tundra]

Hopefully she doesn't die to Sludge Wave easily

[valid raft]

She has special mitigation under fairy zone anyways

And she also buffs your team's defensive stats for every field applied

[crude marten]

lucys damage is weak if you turn off her poison

her speed buff could get ignored with tanks like mina

[rich heron]

I have 1/5 mina

SS leaf has solar immunity

And SS Morty can tank well

Can't see any difficulty other than poison

[crude marten]

*nc leaf

[rich heron]

Groudon benefits from sun

[crude marten]

yes

[rich heron]

Not much difficult

[rotund oasis]

wait. I can do SS Morty (3/5), Groudon (2) and NC Leaf (3) o.o

[rich heron]

Yes
I have 1/5 groudon
With Morty and leaf 3/5

Nc leaf lowers speed?

[stable tundra]

she doesn't

[rich heron]

[rotund oasis]

sadlife.

[rich heron]

Then maybe we can use Courtney instead of groudon

Lowers speed and also does good damage

[rotund oasis]

This one can also drop speed.

assuming you're gonna run SS Morty + NC Leaf i guess

[rich heron]

Oh yea but we need poison immunity

He uses sandstorm

[rotund oasis]

ye sadness

[rich heron]

[rotund oasis]

Hum i think you could get away with just Hunter's Instinct + Furious Brain until you can kill her with a sync nuke.

[rich heron]

But we need to scout Volo

[rotund oasis]

i'm still working to get his Lodge Pair ;-;

hum actually. there's a Fire-type that can drop Speed.

[rich heron]

I am gonna try leaf , Morty and Courtney

[rotund oasis]

2 of them infact.

There's Tina and there's V. Kiawe

V.kiawe goes aoe and can drop Speed hmm

[rich heron]

I have tina

[stable tundra]

just stick to Courtney's team

[rich heron]

We have to be save from poison

[stable tundra]

Tina's not a great idea anyway

[rich heron]

Yup

I am gonna use that team

[novel fog]

Surging sand 3 is somewhat better

[shrewd marten]

You know if you just keep going doesn’t that kill

It has tripled defenses but still

[stone scarab]

if the diamond storm doesnt kill there im pretty sure it outheals their damage output thanks to the gradual healing

[true lagoon]

it definitely wont

[lyric chasm]

I have 2/5 NC Silver now and 1/5 SS Diantha. Will it be enough to take on Darach ultimate battle? Also what can be a good support unit for them?

[covert marlin]

Ingo or NC Blue

if NC Blue, use Bertha instead of SS Diantha

[lyric chasm]

I only have Bertha

[true lagoon]

then you’re probably not ready for a ub

[covert marlin]

what are the supports you have then

[lyric chasm]

[covert marlin]

something like Redlax could be okay

[lyric chasm]

Best supports I have are NC Calem 2/5, SS Morty, SS Brendan, Iono and SS Blue (all 1/5)

[lyric chasm]

I don't have Red and lax

[covert marlin]

all of them are no good then

they do not have synergy with NC Silver

I recommend having NC Silver at least 3/5 for a better nuke

[lyric chasm]

I'm out of gems and I just luckily pulled 2 copies of NC Silver! Don't wanna try my luck on the banner again.

[stone scarab]

well, move candies are always a thing you can use

[lyric chasm]

I haven't used my 5* move candies on anyone yet

[silver spruce]

I'm looking forward to see if SC Zinnia can clear Lucy

[novel fog]

Exactly what happened

[formal crescent]

I can't seem to beat Thorton with Clemont, NC Blue, and SST Red. I don't defeat him before SST Red runs out of Electric Terrain

[stable tundra]

how close are you to the win?

and how is your skill gear set?

i assume you have the same investments like the confirmed clear

[formal crescent]

It gets Articuno down halfway by the time it used dire hit

and yes

[shrewd marten]

do has field

[formal crescent]

yes

i dont have much to work with skill gear wise

[stable tundra]

the bandana is fine, but the rest doesn't help much

about lucky skills, does everyone have Vigilance?

in Blue's case it's Ice Guard

[formal crescent]

yes.

I swapped Blue's for Ice Guard just now

I feel like I've gotten closer to beating Thorton before

[formal crescent]

again i dont really have much to work with aha

[stable tundra]

the video used good skill gears, you should try to replicate them

[covert marlin]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2/2500?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDRAdICMlKSwt
try this sync grid, at 66 points, Red can have Max conductivity and both of his nuke tiles

so you get one more terrain

[surreal torrent]

The researcher and seeker event, how are you supposed to defeat battle challenge 2?

[true lagoon]

sides have clear advantage 8

so you need a field effect that affects their side

[surreal torrent]

Does it have to be Volo?

Cause I don’t have him and I’m not really planning on pulling for him

[shrewd marten]

i mean i didnt have a field effect

sycamore doenst care

[surreal torrent]

See I was trying to go for Sycamore, Summer Marnie for damage and SS Lusamine and they destroyed me

[slate bison]

any weather, terrain or zone will do

[cold widget]

is it possible to clear the hear the cheers galar and dragon/fire missions with any of these? it's okay if only one or neither of them are doable for me

I did see a method that used blaine and drake with gordie but as I only have him at 2/5 I'm assuming that isn't doable

[obsidian meadow]

Run Bea Sonia Hop for Galar

[dim lance]

https://youtu.be/NqrkR62bno8?si=ZEeqaCQuN-h3LTb9

Interesting

[cold widget]

thank you, it worked

[warm haven]

nice, he hits hard

[hearty cedar]

All 1/5?

[novel fog]

Rosa 3/5

[echo atlas]

Can Volo possibly beat UB Palmer with Riley and Aura Cynthia

[covert marlin]

No, he doesn't have the dps or nuke for that sadly

[grave pendant]

Yeah Volo is just meant for utility tbh

[echo atlas]

He can put up quite some peepee stacks though

[stone scarab]

Riley on his own is just not a good enough source of damage for that unfortunately

[white badger]

Is trying for thr type stuff in the galar missions worth it if I have no fire/dragon Galar pairs?

[grave pendant]

Probably not if lacking both of those in Galar. And iirc, it’s only 100 gems for that mission

[silver spruce]

No move coins involved in the mission?

[grave pendant]

It is a rerun, so it’s just gems.

[silver spruce]

Sadness

[jaunty stump]

400 gems sadly for me 😂 still can't do it

The sides are just too tanky and too aoe

[sour elk]

I just beat Palmer with SS Steven, NC Rosa and 2/5 SS Lana with some guidance from Runner

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[spice basin]

Oh damn

Impressive

[fast pendant]

@final yacht the lattest submission was supposed to be palmer, I chose the wrong one

[final yacht]

the argenta page will temporarily be a mess, just saying

[jade marsh]

Technically possible, just need to live

[shrewd marten]

Is this rally?

[jade marsh]

no

[shrewd marten]

Oh wait that’s darach

Not Lucy

Me stoopid

[final yacht]

I could really afford some help to update the doc if anyone wants to volunteer