I got no rain
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
crude marten
probably animation time then
shrewd marten
Like how did it take the entire duration of killing annabel to kill sides that’s so crazy
crude marten
you know rosa bmove takes 1000 years
shrewd marten
Genuinely such a funny design choice to make Rosa’s bmove@take decades
crude marten
long animation, has a chance to proc sleep, random buffs, pmun smun up
it takes like 1/4th zone duration
shrewd marten
It is lmfao
crude marten
true 
crude marten
well technically shes still a part of 
family
spiral summit
Imagine she is Field
shrewd marten
That would be so fucking funny actually
The only unit to not be able to field sync then sync again in field
Cuz siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
crude marten
@spiral summit do you think you can speed up the clear with rosa syncing?
or it’ll hurt cerena sync setup
shrewd marten
Cerena need sync 2 times to kill
But afterward when smacking sides
Probably should’ve synced with Rosa
Get the full power play value
spiral summit
<@678792485534957583> do you think you can speed up the clear with rosa syncing?
No sadly
Bc i’m bad at Quad-Sleep
So i dont want to rick it
Bc you want to sleep Arcanine
And need quad-sleep to reach Sync
spiral summit
That why i save B Move to avoid that
shrewd marten
Cuz u synced with cerena once and it didn’t even kill it
Very sadge
The sides I mean
shrewd marten
-10 assume Rosa quad
spiral summit
-10 assume Rosa quad
You cant quad
spiral summit
Bc enemy shield
crude marten
Bc you want to sleep Arcanine
ah i see
pale dawn
Man, I know that powercreep is a thing and I haven’t been playing consistently… but Hau is obnoxious. I think this is the first time I can’t even beat the first stage
shrewd marten
You can afford to spam shuriken in the meantime
shrewd marten
Man, I know that powercreep is a thing and I haven’t been playing consistently… ...
It’s not really powercreep it’s just hau
He really wants you to have gladion
pale dawn
Most extreme battles are centered around the new unit yeah, but what the hell were they on with this one lmfao
I can get close but I have wayyyy too many turns eaten yo finish it
crude marten
interesting though it can be done without accels and just sleep
i thought itd be both
pale dawn
Lillie and Lunala do more than enough damage, it’s just a matter of actually getting to deal said damage
crude marten
well ig you can count cerena bmove as accel 
shrewd marten
You need clearhead
And paralysis remove
Otherwise no hitty hit
Use da zinfogel guide
And win
pale dawn
Clearheaded stops confusion, right?
shrewd marten
Mhm
pale dawn
Hmm… I may have a path if I can roll it then
shrewd marten
Use zinfogel guide frfr
pale dawn
I’m trying to use Leaf and Moltres to weaken them, but the team Solar guard can prevent the paralysis from landing. If Lunala is unimpeded I may have a way through
shrewd marten
Ncleaf pog
You kinda need it really early though
So unless u have accerola
You’ll need a cleanser as well
pale dawn
Yeah I can manage that, I’ve done it a few times so far
The paralysis doesn’t hit until the second attack
So I can Leer first, which thankfully lowers stats regardless of if you actually get to use it, and then I just need to pass the RNG check to land Flare Blitz
It prevents paralysis until the sync move at least
shrewd marten
Pykuo where the zinfogel vid is it pinned
spiral summit
shrewd marten
Yaya
Thenk
Yo follow the vid exactly and kablakey you killed the lil shit
Freakin paralysis confusion evasion
pale dawn
This is the lineup I’ve been using to try to curbstomp the bastard
shrewd marten
Yer taking dauntless right
For Lillie
Also elio is probably higher value
Turn denial is better than raw damage and while she has really strong debuffs the fact she’s off region and ur support doesn’t have any defensive buffs sucks
When I did it with ncleaf I used blue and even that was close
pale dawn
Dauntless i have yes
At this point I’m almost considering replacing Clefairy with Morty and Ho-Oh for early sun and to add some speed support
shrewd marten
At this point I’m almost considering replacing Clefairy with Morty and Ho-Oh for...
You’ll die
Accuracy
pale dawn
So what changes exactly
shrewd marten
Swap ncleaf for elio
And give everyone clearhead
Then you raise that bois accuracy with lillie, and make him sleep drampa turn 2 and from there gl and kill it with good sleep timing
Lillies sync sucks from what I hear so you might even get safety nets in synchro heal and status heal
pale dawn
Sleep chaining huh… bringing it back to year 1 I see
I actually tried Ho-Oh just because I try not to copy paste strategies when I can and I got surprisingly far
If Leaf didn’t get crit by an Icy Wind I think I had it
stable tundra
you can try tanking with Anni Lillie
pale dawn
You’d be surprised, Morty was only taking like 25% from dragon pulse
spiral summit
shrewd marten
https://youtu.be/pA8Uvdh86Bs
Pykuo their eyes look like they’re dead/demonic
Why are they solid red lmfao
valid raft
https://youtu.be/pA8Uvdh86Bs
Just edit laser eyes
shrewd marten
The red eyes of death condemn you
I don’t know why but the solid red eyes are so funny to me
valid raft
Huh my jank strat worked after all
Hey, what?
pale dawn
Yup. But it’s more than I could accomplish before so I call it a win
valid raft
Huh my jank strat worked after all
I was originally trying the same team except with Mina instead of Lillie
pale dawn
I mean Morty even took a hyper beam to the face and lived
valid raft
I mean Morty even took a hyper beam to the face and lived
Lesser Sp. Atk. debuff mitigation
shrewd marten
I mean Morty even took a hyper beam to the face and lived
That is because part 1 is significantly easier
pale dawn
I’m aware. This ain’t exactly my first extreme battle
valid raft
But Imma still try it
pale dawn
I just stopped playing this game as consistently for a while so my box isn’t super modern
shrewd marten
A modern box doesn’t really help here unless it’s very specific
This ebe is just mean
pale dawn
I gathered as much
Major BS on Hau’s part
But yeah my collection isn’t stupendous rn
I got a few heavy hitters but not as many as I’d like
valid raft
Mina would be better than Anni Lillie actually
pale dawn
Probably
Just stick it on my list of unobtained units
Frankly I’m just happy I can still clutch some wins
pale dawn
I miss the days when Anni N could basically solo any difficult content if you played carefully
valid raft
It works even when I messed up
shrewd marten
That’s crazy
valid raft
@low coral I wonder, would CS2 make a difference compared to WW3 for Irida and Red?
pale dawn
I tried seeing how far my jank sun strat worked in stage 2
Leaf immediately lost half her health to swift
valid raft
Leaf immediately lost half her health to swift
How many times did you use Leer?
Also is she EXR?
valid raft
Hmmmm yeah, then she's missing a good bit of bulk then
pale dawn
I haven’t been playing consistently enough to get the upgrade item
valid raft
Unfortunately, there's no way to reverse EX and EXR
shrewd marten
Rolex turns her into a very beefy girl
Ur not surviving without that
Not even worth trying imo, u don’t has extra potions or endurance either
pale dawn
Although speaking of I did have a question. I saw her EX role was support. When someone unlocks an EX role, does that candy also work on them? Or is she still only able to use technical candy
shrewd marten
Only tech
pale dawn
Had a feeling but it was worth asking
shrewd marten
Rolex is just now I get second effect and stats
pale dawn
Now I’m thinking of a technical sync nuke user getting the strike ex role and I’m salivating
valid raft
EXR doesn't unlock innate multipliers for tech and sprint, but I guess adding that would be a hassle for DeNA
pale dawn
Oh yeah I guess I never saw what those roles’ ex effects are
Well sprint and field anyways
shrewd marten
EXR doesn't unlock innate multipliers for tech and sprint, but I guess adding th...
Innate mults were never part of the ex deal
That just wouldn’t make sense
Ex is a 1.5
Also so many units power level would go insaneo mode
But anyway
valid raft
Well sprint and field anyways
Sprint: -3 sync CD the first time the user does its sync move
Field: Applies the designated field before the damage is dealt and extends the duration of said field by 50%
valid raft
She doesn’t gain power play
She's support EXR right?
valid raft
Ok
shrewd marten
A tech ex doesn’t give innate
So adding innate to others with tech ex would be a huge buff to only tech ex
valid raft
A tech ex doesn’t give innate
I wish it did
shrewd marten
Wouldn’t make sense imo
Are you trying to make ncred undisputed king of this game
valid raft
Are you trying to make ncred undisputed king of this game
That would make SS Roxie as well
spice basin
Roxie already has an innate
spice basin
she's base tech
shrewd marten
Then piers
valid raft
Oh yeah
How much is the innate multiplier of tech again if condition is fulfilled again?
+200%?
valid raft
So if tech EXR had actual innate multiplier along with its 1.5x multiplier, then NC Red would have a total of 470% multiplier on his sync then
shrewd marten
Ncred explode wow
valid raft
I'll bet you that will make it easier to off-region WE x3 stages
pale dawn
Do I have any units that I really wanna focus down on their EX Roles? I dunno if Leaf was just talked about in regards to the fight
valid raft
Do I have any units that I *really* wanna focus down on their EX Roles? I dunno ...
Rosa, Leaf and Red are good
pale dawn
Yeah I had a feeling they’d be at the bottom of the barre
Barrel
And yeah I definitely see Red enjoying his
About the only weakness I see in Red and Pikachu is you really want more Electric Terrain
That helps with that
I’m glad Rosa is considered fantastic, she’s the unit that brought me back in after a hiatus
shrewd marten
Support sprint is wahoo
pale dawn
Is Serena’s really that good? Support I mean it’s good for the sync boost but I don’t see immediate synergy
stone scarab
Serena effectively requires you to sync with her first
shrewd marten
Take it from the people who have her
stone scarab
Giving her the support role makes doing that more worth it since you're not missing out on the support buff you would normally want to sync with first
pale dawn
So I’ll prolly prioritize Rosa… then either Red and Pikachu or Leaf
crimson egret
NC Rosa is EX sprint right
stone scarab
Correct
raven nacelle
Okay so I tried xerneas, fantina, bertha for the sinnoh,ground/ghost mission, didnt work. Only xernreas survives.
Need atleast two to stay alive
quick pewter
Isn't that one more phys focused or am I remembering wrong
covert marlin
Okay so I tried xerneas, fantina, bertha for the sinnoh,ground/ghost mission, di...
does your Fantina have EX?
covert marlin
that explained why, I would EX fantina if you do not have support EX
stable tundra
i'm against that idea
raven nacelle
Yeah, EXing something just for one mission seems a bit too wasteful
stable tundra
Fantina doesn't need EX, the problem is Sycamore being a selfish healer
stable tundra
Leafeevee is perfectly good
raven nacelle
Okay
covert marlin
Fantina is like the third strongest special ghost striker
if you don't have Irida, EXing Fantina is by no means a waste
you can try replacing Xerneas with SS Blue
raven nacelle
Leafeevee is perfectly good
Who syncs?? Eevee only?
raven nacelle
you can try replacing Xerneas with SS Blue
Bro dun heal. Only got 30% heal chance I think. Maybe lower
He does tank really well tho.
covert marlin
it is an EX support you have
quick pewter
slaps Sonia on it I have solved the problem (joking)
stable tundra
Who syncs?? Eevee only?
sync with Eevee first, then Fantina afterwards
Sonia is good as well
but she doesnt help with Fantina's buffing, outside of crit
raven nacelle
Yeah she more of a phy support
quick pewter
Fair
raven nacelle
lvl 125 eevee works or should I 130 her?
fantina is lvl 120 too. Level her up too? Idk how much levels matter here
stable tundra
level doesn't matter much
raven nacelle
okay
So first sync eevee, then fantina if she survives
Bruhh 
The eearthquake is deadly
covert marlin
if you don't have Fantina EX, kill at least one side first before killing the boss
covert marlin
put flameroof on Eevee
stable tundra
Grid Friend Mend on Leaf, griđ Sand Slinger on Bertha so she can debuff 2 atk at once
raven nacelle
I do have friend mend on
stable tundra
You can put it on another preset, it's up to you to spend cookies on it or not
raven nacelle
sand slinger available at 2/5?
valid raft
sand slinger available at 2/5?
It's available innately, but there's another one at 3/5
raven nacelle
ah okay. I was reading the grid and didnt see one
Is the stage really that hard or am I just stupid?
covert marlin
sync Eevee, use Fantina to kill side with balls, sync with Bertha since on type sync is better
raven nacelle
fanta sync did like 7k something
covert marlin
the stage becomes braindead with EX sync from Fantina but if you want the hard way, you need to play better
covert marlin
yes
covert marlin
your Fantina could barely make use of smarty pants anyways so yes
just use fantina to kill sides, leave the middle for bertha
raven nacelle
ok
low coral
He literally showed the wrong team 
dim lance
the right team is right tho no
hue
still, clearing thorton with only physical units
and semi reliably
is pretty damn good
rotund oasis
Dont need Rebuff when you can Restrain www
low coral
It is, although it kinda contradicts what you said before on NC Blue clears not counting there 
dim lance
I was gonna interrogate him about why he didn't use Penny
lmao
but he did say that Blue was the only pair that he could fit in there that did all the gimmick checks
He literally had a comedy montage where "tosakinto using Blue; did he get his sanity back?"
"No, I did not, so let me explain"
like he said he considered Rosa
but she was too unreliable
JP in general seems to not like her very much overall
low coral
Wait, who's the supposed carry on Runner's run then? Cerena?
dim lance
cerena, yeah
he says that cerena has demonstrated enough firepower to solocarry without an external steroid source
such that you can put any decent for UB unit in that and she'd do the job
much like Red himself
so he more or less disagrees that "red needs irida"
he thinks he's perfectly fine without irida, that's hwo dumb he is
dim lance
well, for UB, ofc not, you don't throw a Hapu in there with Blue/Red
except Darach maybe
but his margin for unit quality is a lot higher
than other units
low coral
Like, throw in Victor there or something and it already isn't enough
Also, like I mentioned, Blue/Red was just the wrong comp, that never got into the replays, especially by the date he mentioned
low coral
I know, that's why I know there wasn't a Blue one by that point
dim lance
afaik there's no universality in what is displayed in the replay button
because I've compared it with some other JP folks and
there seems to be shifts all the time
in what's shown in there
that's why sometimes we see some clears that they dont and vice versa
low coral
I never heard about that tbh
Every time I said someone to check in-game replays, even from other regions, they could see the one I mentioned
dim lance
don't they change like
sporadically
because they don't include, like everything
like, by maybe a day basis or idk
low coral
They do, but by March 6, we were still doing clears with Silver and Geeta, so we were checking the replays pretty constantly
crude marten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3UoVV4klN8&t=216s
havent watch but im assuming this goes past second sync
valid raft
You think that Chase/NC Red/Irida can do Anabel?
crude marten
tosakinto big fan of crit defense
covert marlin
You think that Chase/NC Red/Irida can do Anabel?
doubt it, Chase cannot help reduce sp.atk/atk and heal fast like NC Blue. Anabel needs a ton of stat debuffs
pale dawn
Wow… I tried ultimate battles for the first time… I got my shit pushed in, wtf
Like I had a decent team for one of them and I couldn’t even make it halfway, I have no idea how these are feasible without the optimal 5/5 lineup
true lagoon
Like I had a decent team for one of them and I couldn’t even make it halfway, I ...
which one did you try
pale dawn
Well I took a swing at most of them but the one I felt I had a chance at was Thorton, since I had Morty, Leaf, and N
stone scarab
a lack of move levels could be a factor tbf
pale dawn
Leaf is 1/5, the others are 3/5
true lagoon
yeah uh
i dont think leaf can dps through the first part of thorton
not without insult to injury at least
wait no the first part is special
stone scarab
second part
pale dawn
Well I was kinda relying on N for my damage
stone scarab
but you would probably struggle with the post 60% HP threshold to a degree
pale dawn
Since his sync nuke can still do big boy damage
covert marlin
why not do darach first? I believe you have a good chance of clearing that
Thorton is a pain regardless of on-type or not
pale dawn
Is he just like able to be brute forced or something
Since my best rock type is uh… Blue
I mean I guess I have Bertha for rocks
true lagoon
he only requires a field condition affecting his side so hes very doable
much more than any of the other ones imo
pale dawn
I’m this context does field condition include weather or specifically something like stealth rocks
true lagoon
I’m this context does field condition include weather or specifically something ...
damage field works
pale dawn
Well weather/terrain/zones
true lagoon
Well weather/terrain/zones
and yes
pale dawn
Well that’s significantly easier since I have Red and Ash
Oh yeah that kinda reminds me, I was debating on who the best 3rd to that version of my Kanto team is. Red and Ash are strong together, but I keep flip flopping between Leaf and Moltres and Blue and Blastoise. I know Leaf does more overall and has the master skill, but I feel like Blue’s higher survivability and support has its worth. The master skill makes it tricky for me to tell though
Especially since my Blue is 3/5 and Leaf is only 1
low coral
You think that Chase/NC Red/Irida can do Anabel?
You can, yes
covert marlin
You can, yes
doubt, no attack debuff/burn heal
low coral
I say it because I did it before lol
Chase is supposed to go down to burn after Anabel buffs post-sync as that gains more time
terse geyser
Is there a reason why sometimes regigigas ancient power sometimes just CANT be quadqueue'd? Doing some testing and it is very annoyingly inconsistent
valid raft
Got it, but requires luck on Gladion's TM and Wally's Fairy Wish MPR
valid raft
Is there a reason why sometimes regigigas ancient power sometimes just CANT be q...
Is a counter passive triggering?
terse geyser
Is a counter passive triggering?
I'm just gonna record and check because I don't think it is, but maybe it'll help me notice what's off, but it feels rng is involved so far (also, does weathered warrior 3 affect quadqueue? Wanted to test dmg numbers with NC serena)
valid raft
I'm just gonna record and check because I don't think it is, but maybe it'll hel...
What's your team?
terse geyser
Suicune and frogs
Have done it several times on 2x and 3x but sometimes it just doesn't respect the sync queue
valid raft
Suicune and frogs
Ok, first of all, that team is suicide
Because no one can immediately change the weather at the start
You'd have to wait for Calem's B Move
terse geyser
What do you mean by suicide? Nothing survives the max move
valid raft
Anyways
valid raft
Aaahhh hahaha understandable
When can you not quadqueue again?
spice basin
Palmer is right there in the image too 
valid raft
Yeah, IK
terse geyser
Second sync, second ancient power
valid raft
Second sync?
spice basin
If you can record we'll be able to diagnose easier, most likely an expiring field effect or activating passive on your side of play
valid raft
The only thing I can think of is the MGA of Calem's TM wearing off
spice basin
Eusine's condition nullification
valid raft
Or that too
spice basin
Calem's rain
terse geyser
Isn't it an easy fix with Cerena's B Move?
I'm doing her first on the sync move turn but I'll try doing her last, that might fix it
Brb lol
I just find it weird because it sometimes works and I just can't locate the issue, I do know about the passives interrupting
spice basin
If you queue her BMove sometime after the failed quadqueue sync, the +1 accel should get you back on track
Try and observe either your rain expiring or the MGA from Calem/Condition Nullification from Eusine. Their icons are bottom left of the screen
terse geyser
Yeah, doing Serena last fixed it, thanks
terse geyser
Nvm it wasn't serena, it was the condition nullification timer from Eusine, I just wasn't noticing how wonky the timing is
valid raft
Nvm it wasn't serena, it was the condition nullification timer from Eusine, I ju...
Majority of the duration of effects will last for 1 sync cycle
spice basin
Base field effect time is a set 45 seconds, irrelevant of cycle. It's just that the time is enough to last a whole sync cycle as long as you don't have super long animations like NC Rosa, SS Diantha, etc
terse geyser
Oooohhh ty this helps a lot
forest minnow
Hi everyone, I'm having troubles dealing with Tyrantrum in the Solve The Case 1 fight. That thing is waaay too bulky and hits like a truck. Sycamore with Horn Leech and The World Is Vast can tank for a while if it does not spam Head Smash too often, but I cannot deal significant damage to it. Is there some gimmick in the fight? I only read that the fight has "no evasion" and "defense down" to apply to Tyrantrum, should I bring a debuffer to neuter its stats? Any help on that fight would be appreciated! 
low pilot
Think they have a passive that reduces damage taken if no interference is applied to them
E.g. confusion, flinching, trap, no evasion, etc
forest minnow
low pilot
Also tyrantrum hits hard because SC Steven debuffs attack and defense at the same time, and they're trying to sell him
Either you kill the tyrantrum quickly with defense debuffs
Or reduce damage taken with attack debuff
low pilot
Think they have a passive that reduces damage taken if no interference is applie...
Acute Senses iirc
You need to learn the gimmicks of the fight first before you try to bruteforce with Xerneas
This is true of most challenge runs
forest minnow
the info on the area details was too vague 
valid raft
Well, you can always ask here for stuff like that
low pilot
Pastebin also lists it out
Anyways, post your roster
We can help you sort out the battle, as long as you're willing to learn and listen
You'll, uh, be surprised at how many people will ignore advice and then blame us though
forest minnow
so applying trap can cancel that dmg reduction?
stone scarab
it would work, yeah
low pilot
Yes
forest minnow
lemme see then...
fossil surge
Have we gotten any riley clears for palmer yet?
valid raft
Have we gotten any riley clears for palmer yet?
A few
fossil surge
Damn that was fast
valid raft
I'm about to make my own when I get my next sprint candy coin tomorrow
When I have 3/5 Rei
fossil surge
No rei moment
shrewd marten
Floop the doc
fossil surge
My only other fighting dps/nuke is bea
valid raft
My only other fighting dps/nuke is bea
What about supports?
Supports are pretty crucial here
forest minnow
Yes, you were right! Trapping makes Tyrantrum much squishier!
Thank you so much, everyone! 
valid raft
Well, you do have SSA Cynthia
low pilot
fossil surge
Well, you do have SSA Cynthia
Indeed
I almost have 2 support candies but ik it's ill advised to candy pairs just for stuff like ubs
valid raft
SSA Cynthia will still be a massive boon for UBs
fossil surge
True
valid raft
And she can also potentially help you in EBs too, even off-region
low pilot
Hmmm Is the Geeta SSA Cynthia Glorialt clear for palmer replicable at 1/5 glorialt?
valid raft
Pretty sure Glorialt needs 3/5 for the sync multipliers
low pilot
my roster is exactly at the point where a lot of substitutions might work vs the docs AKA missing 1 out of 3 in a team always
Would something like SSGladion 3/5 work?
EXR obv
low pilot
Hmmm Is the Geeta SSA Cynthia Glorialt clear for palmer replicable at 1/5 gloria...
SSMay 3/5? But her blaze kick dps is not on type ugh
SC Zinnia 3/5?
For replacing Glorialt
covert marlin
nah, their dps is just not crazy high to do that
fossil surge
And she can also potentially help you in EBs too, even off-region
that is also very true
hm
i could candy bea to 3/5 and also ex role riley in the forseeable future
fossil surge
What's with people and trying to candy genpools
uhhh there's a word for it
instant gratification iirc
which might not even happen if i can't clear palmer anyways
grave pendant
Candying gen pools ain’t worth it dude
fossil surge
She will come
tell her to come rn then😔
fossil surge
Candying gen pools ain’t worth it dude
i knooww i'm just more of a "speak now thinkg later" kinda guy
it is what it is tho
forest minnow
Hi everyone, is there some gimmick about Steven in Solve the Case challenge 2?
forest minnow
is there a way to weaken him? In the previous event with Tyrantrum trapping him would weaken him, can something similar be done against Steven?
shrewd marten
Um I don’t think he has something direct like acute senses (I can’t find it) but he’s not that fat so you can just try to rush him down with physical
marble flume
The big thing is that you need ways to deal with the Attack buffs and Defense debuffs that the opponent has
Because otherwise they will hit like 18-wheelers
shrewd marten
Impervious comes to mind
forest minnow
he was a very thicc boi: it took a lot of debuffs to weaken him and doing so by restricting myself to just Hoenn and Johto trainers is rough, so I was wondering if he had an exploitable weak spot
marble flume
You don’t have to use only Hoenn and Johto pairs, you just need 1 of each
So the 3rd teammate can be anyone
shrewd marten
You can use one carry unit and a johto hoenn duo
sour elk
I thought this was pretty cool, it's two more NC Silver clears on Thorton with NC Blue+SS Diantha and SS Serena+Elaine 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3UoVV4klN8
warm haven
best unit 
shrewd marten
best unit <:PoryWoke:748413447015759884>
Who
warm haven
shrewd marten
Oh that guy
warm haven
People complain how he doesnt have optimal partners but he still beats most pairs without zone
shrewd marten
He does fine cuz he zooms
small spear
i'm confused about Argenta. What does she actually need?
true lagoon
negative status change and weather change are mandatory
replacing terrain may or may not be necessary depending on how long the fight takes
small spear
dang i got her in battle rally
true lagoon
restrain works for her
shrewd marten
perform selene gaming
mighty plover
even with grid i can't do this?
i'm not sure what im doing wrong?
i'm trying to get to the 4th sync move but the move math isn't adding up
im quad queing and yet?
oh i missed head start on ash lol
true lagoon
i was gonna say check lucky skills
mighty plover
thanks lmao
true lagoon
well if you were one off the rotation i figured it had to be something about accel but my sleep deprived brain forgot to mention it
stable tundra
Skill gears are also a big factor unless the video user none
true lagoon
well theres a pull priority in #poma-questions if you’re unsure
it really can just be summarized as go for your favs tho tbh
mighty plover
Skill gears are also a big factor unless the video user none
i have 3/5 grid + ER to make up for it dw
warm haven
I saw a clear that could make that easier
Just with 2 syncs, you let ash get to pitch percent with Palmers sync and with blue tm ash gets 4 SMUN
That beats Palmer
mighty plover
Just with 2 syncs, you let ash get to pitch percent with Palmers sync and with b...
that's what im currently trying to do (and failing )
also i like your hazbin pfp
warm haven
warm haven
that's what im currently trying to do (and failing )
But that's not killing Palmer?
warm haven
Try with cs2 on both red and ash
mighty plover
not the same build/run, but HP for visual reference
warm haven
Sync with blue first and then with ash
mighty plover
Try with cs2 on both red and ash
I have before, didn't work
but im pretty close already, i think i've got this
mighty plover
Ash is like doing too little damage to the sides
this isn't the same run/build im doing right now, this is a very early run
scepiles's run when it was on the spreedsheet
mighty plover
oh i think my problem is im using red's tm instead of geting an extra round of his b move debuff in
lapis bobcat
Could I have some help beating these last 2 missions??
obsidian meadow
If you tell us what your Ground, Dark, Hoenn, and Johto pairs are someone may be able to assist
mighty plover
Could I have some help beating these last 2 missions??
do you have Ground, Dark, Hoenn, and Johto pairs?
you need to use them on the same team for the typing and region
grave pendant
Note that you could also do the missions separately
quick pewter
^
pale mica
I hate Hau's insta Paralysis and insta Confusion
Cuz I don't have SS Gladion
I feel like SS Lillie's irrelevant in this one
lunar sedge
There's no SS Lillie
pale mica
You kow what I mean, Lunala
pale mica
I wanna take on part 1
lunar sedge
I'm pretty sure the doc has an AnniLillie clear
obsidian meadow
I did part 1 with Annilili Lillie and Elio, it was rough
stable tundra
Do you have the same investments as the example team's?
Skill gears also play a big role
gentle wharf
Investments yes but I couldn’t see their gears
solar stirrup
im attemping hau
and holy crap
even with zinfogels guide this is an absolute nightmare
cleared part 1 after 1 and a half hours
doing part 2 rn
anddd elio sold with triple paralysis
solar stirrup
Is there supposed to be a specific queueing? cannot seem to crack hau past his sync as I die. The only difference is that I have full grid and zinfogel has fairy gear, which i do not have.
solar stirrup
Like where exactly does it differ
I think I don't have enough gauge to queue for second sync before noivern syncs
And also I get slaughtered first sync on noivern
Zinfogel has only bare minimum with fairy gear and level 140, I'm running 3 star flying gear and 125 characters fully gridded
Og lillie is exed
shrewd marten
I think I don't have enough gauge to queue for second sync before noivern syncs
well if you made it 140 you do get more speed
so try that
solar stirrup
well if you made it 140 you do get more speed
Do I rely on Mgr or no
shrewd marten
if he has mgr then sure otherwise its probably not necessary
rotund oasis
mighty plover
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yJqIkSkVFiM Noice 😮
wtf is this music 😭
true lagoon
its from dragalia lost
mighty plover
@warm haven I know you didn't grid blue or red in the vs Palmer video, but if you could, what grids would you pair them with?
for your triple head start 1 setup
mine are gridded and i'm still struggling
warm haven
For blue, get the defs drops node, team sync think 9 and furious brain.
If youre doing the same move order of the video then for red pick paralysis synergy, and max conductivity to attack one turn earlier, but remember to refresh terrain on time
Btw you're missing one 25 sync node for ash
mighty plover
Btw you're missing one 25 sync node for ash
this is what it looks like on the guide btw
warm haven
Oh then I missed that node 
mighty plover
but it's needed right?
mighty plover
For blue, get the defs drops node, team sync think 9 and furious brain.
If youre...
something like this?
warm haven
Yeah
mighty plover
perfect, thank you so much
i am going to go for the ash grid expansion too for the extra sync boost
mighty plover
FINALLY
mighty plover
bring em on
shrewd marten
its from dragalia lost
ah I instantly recognized it
Agito
Feels nice to hear it again
shrewd marten
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yJqIkSkVFiM Noice 😮
also hasnt this been done many a time befores?
rotund oasis
NC Rosa basically
tidal kestrel
shrewd marten
You kill before
rotund oasis
you need people that can nuke hard + sync accel tbh.
you dont have to tank at all, just kill him before he uses his Max Move.
his sync will not kill you too much if you've got +6 DEF; but its his Mxa Move that needs to be stopped by killing him.
hearty cedar
Anyone wanna guess what dahlia ub gonna be like?
I'm guessing rain + gt spam by her
Kinda similar to argenta stage
But with a lot of def and sp.def debuffs
low coral
I think it'll be Electric Terrain themed, Ice-weak with a Ice Spinner Pokémon coming soon
jade marsh
she gets a Raikou? o.o
No she gets zapdos
Which could work cause Thorton has Articuno
quick pewter
So uhhhhhhhh
Idk what to do for steel/poison
...I also have Sonia leveled for galar if that matters
obsidian meadow
Well you have Hop so just throw a random poison in
I did it with Hop Sonia and Koga
quick pewter
Hm
obsidian meadow
You levelled Lucy already just use her
quick pewter
I threw Roxy in the third slot because I didn't know what else to do
Shout-out to NC Leaf for providing debuffs because I was so lost otherwise lol
And also for support cake already being useful with her the double sync buff is so nice
hearty cedar
Can we beat thorton ub with nc.blue + anni N + ss N?
I dont have nc.blue to test it out
Seems doable
fading walrus
SSN 4/5 probably can
fading walrus
My SSN is 1/5 so...ehh
warm haven
Same
low coral
My SS N is 4/5, but Anni is 1/5
Not sure if it works even at 3/5
Def requires some RNG
warm haven
Could N kill avalug before defense all +?
If so you can pick def drops nodes in blue's grid
fading walrus
I think they could
hearty cedar
Not sure if it works even at 3/5
Anni N would work for sure, its ss N I'm curious about
wary hemlock
fading walrus
https://youtu.be/lXgEe3O5_Ro?si=52xx26YwZP7jJiM_
I was trying to make this work with 3/5 Roxie 66/70 but nothing
true lagoon
am i cooking (darach)
fading walrus
do it with oleana <:DawnNom:632438643935674381>
Not with a 1/5 oleana
hearty cedar
am i cooking (darach)
Maybe
true lagoon
i got close but you still need mpr rng which is ahh
bro this mpr rng is pissing me off
hearty cedar
Mpr for rock zone?
true lagoon
yes
stable tundra
resetting for MPR2 is truly annoying
stone scarab
it sure is, i hate it
wary hemlock
I was trying to make this work with 3/5 Roxie 66/70 but nothing
the reason this work because this team tank max move and sync
raven nacelle
How do I clear the "use a poison/steel type" mission from the Hop mission thingy??
I don't have any galar poison types
THey gonna die real fast if I use off type. I only got the free poison units
This what I got
stable tundra
you can try this: #1017360219849891890 message
raven nacelle
Okay thanks
Do I need my units to be that high level as the f2p clear guy had? All their units were 132
fading walrus
the reason this work because this team tank max move and sync
Yeah I know
That's why mina is there over let's say NC Rosa
raven nacelle
Okay so I just need the tanks to survive while the opponent die of poison?
wary hemlock
no
geeta poison is normal
its just asap damage after tanking
max move, b moves of both units
u look at that stage before enemy sync , enemy is still at 60% hp
true lagoon
I HATE DIANTHA SO MUCH GAH
i need 3 mprs for this dumb ass stage and she refuses to give me it
night stream
2.7 % for long tries to find out if you got lucky or not can truly drive one nuts
true lagoon
awful
night stream
I had to live that for SSSteven/SSTRed/SSDiantha for BR
true lagoon
I had to live that for SSSteven/SSTRed/SSDiantha for BR
what sstr makes it free lol
95 second terrain is so much easier to work with
even more so if hes caked
the issue is that i dont have move levels for him
otherwise i would be using him instead
true lagoon
and ss steven didnt do enough?
true lagoon
i wouldve gone ss steven defense personally
night stream
i wouldve gone ss steven defense personally
That's what I did
true lagoon
oh wait im dumb
nocturne arch
I forgot how to beat steven in solving the case event part two.
true lagoon
grass has good units for argenta
spice basin
Dark being Dark
spice swift
I assume those clears are borderline impossible?
true lagoon
why would it
spice swift
There aren't any clears with 1/5 Adaman huh
Well, I see a few, but I don't think I can do most of them
true lagoon
hes still the intended unit
just work with what you have
even if its not on the doc you can probably frankenstein a team
spice swift
I see there's a clear with Bulurola Xern Selene on the doc
Maybe Adaman > Selene works?
final yacht
yes
true lagoon
definitely
spice swift
Here's my roster just in case
final yacht
you guys need to chill i don't look for a few days and there's already a dozen new clears
true lagoon
lol
hearty cedar
anyone know any teams to clear hau part 2
Rats + zapdos wins
true lagoon
yeah it unironically does
hearty cedar
Argenta really is a joke
Except for palmer and anabel, all other 3 are kinda easy...maybe except thorton too
true lagoon
thorton is hard
not as tough as the other 2 but hes not on the same level as argenta and darach
true lagoon
argenta doesnt even use dh+ all until the third sync iirc
hearty cedar
No, she uses it for her 2nd sync
true lagoon
oh maybe i misremembered then
hearty cedar
Thats why nc.leaf users had a bit of a problem bcuz she often got crit
If she survives the sync then gg
low coral
argenta doesnt even use dh+ all until the third sync iirc
She does, but Argenta only uses single target moves
If your tank got Vigilance, you barely feel it
fading walrus
Yep, so she takes eons to break past bulky tanks
final yacht
She does, but Argenta only uses single target moves
And sync
And I wouldnt gamble on a 50% for my dps to not get crit lol
low coral
Sync Move is not a move
final yacht
stone scarab
yeah Argentas standard movepool is pretty friendly to going past sync 2 even without vigilance
final yacht
added this clause to the doc, but that means i'll have to double check all the clears on which i didn't do that yet
void mantle
Rats + zapdos wins
even with red 1/5?
boreal abyss
grave pendant
There aren't any clears with 1/5 Adaman huh
I thought I saw someone do SS Acerola, 3/5+ Mix Red and 1/5 Adaman
I’m gonna try that myself
shrewd marten
To be fair you’re using adaman accerola
pine sonnet
Hi all, forgive me if this is obvious but I can’t find anything in the EBE doc just stating what the gimmick is
stone scarab
Hi all, forgive me if this is obvious but I can’t find anything in the EBE doc j...
which one, Hau?
hearty cedar
I'm guessing debuffs
true lagoon
Hi all, forgive me if this is obvious but I can’t find anything in the EBE doc j...
spams debuffs paralysis and confusion and increases the chances of full paralysis and confusion proccing
its basically lol you dont move
shrewd marten
Haus gimmick is fuck you not get something to fck me
An unwelcome change from our ordinary ebes
fading walrus
To be fair you’re using adaman accerola
Ik, tbh 1/5 adaman is less relevant than acerola in that fight imo
Like, ace makes everything so easy Vs Argenta
fading walrus
Makes the game laggier
fossil schooner
doing darachs UB ngl Diantha is NOT clearing the fraud allegations… 💀
fading walrus
My phone already struggles as it is
stone scarab
Diantha just needs a field EXR and shes set 
pine sonnet
Thanks for the input y’all! I haven’t attempted it yet but I’ll be trying some things tonight
grave pendant
Even with fucking up when to apply my rebuffs, I still did it
silver spruce
Diantha just needs a field EXR and shes set <:Hopium:875906112963117056>
They'll make you spend money for the 5/5 rock zone extension instead haha
sour elk
I'm convinced they'll give her more extension in her 2026 pb it came to me in a dream
mighty plover
Kalos villain arc rerun probably
silver spruce
I'm just patiently waiting for our first support, field exr sync pair
mighty plover
final yacht
Vthorton at home
silver spruce
More field ex roles in general would be nice
floral patio
iirc I used 1/5 SST on Argentina in my winning run
true lagoon
hmm
true lagoon
well my issue with darach is not having a good nuker for it besides ss diantha which is mpr hell
floral patio
true lagoon
pain
covert marlin
is that rally or UB? Bertha is really good there
I would avoid using someone very reliant on field but need high maintenance like Diantha, perhaps you can just switch Diantha out
covert marlin
maybe replace Bertha into Rose slot, her dot hurts
covert marlin
passive, but her dot basically refunds the heal and both damage field and sandstorm works to stop Darach
if you already have someone that can hit sides, she is perfect as the third slot
true lagoon
well id rather wipe sides faster
cuz you know they’re annoying
and ss diantha damage against 3 isnt really that strong
what about anni raihan?
trap and sand should equal damage field in terms of dot and he has disarm for faster debuffs
stable tundra
Hear me out, go 5/5 SS Diantha for zone extension
true lagoon
dont have enough candies
i might consider it at this point cuz its really starting to annoy me
stable tundra
One of the reasons i dont enjoy using her in slow paced content
true lagoon
maybe rose and sst would work better lol
but i doubt that can do it before second sync with 1/5 sst
true lagoon
asshole…
i actually hate her zone timing so much
this is so close to fucking working
true lagoon
4/5
silver spruce
thanks
fading walrus
My face when I'm struggling for a 3/5 ssroxie 3/5 Geeta 1/5 ssmina Vs darach
And realize I've been running grid less roxie
For 25 mins
No wonder zone was ending pretty faster than expected
true lagoon
My face when I'm struggling for a 3/5 ssroxie 3/5 Geeta 1/5 ssmina Vs darach
boi i was about to say how tf
silver spruce
What does mina do that a different support can't in that set up?
fading walrus
It's just budget tosakinto for the funnies
silver spruce
Tosakinto?
fading walrus
The JP that brevetted Ssroxie/Oleana/ssmina Vs UBs
silver spruce
ah, thanks
fading walrus
Pretty much
silver spruce
I remember the Anabel clear, that was fire
high harbor
https://youtu.be/eIX3SvGhptk?si=qwU9AZCs9R_xMCE4
this dude just sold me to invest on silver now
a single team taking every UB available
low coral
Khaku talks a lot around here, actually
high harbor
Im gonna get my silver to 3/5 and save gems in case blue returns
but if arceus bless us with Ash's return, then screw blue, Im getting the chad
shrewd marten
Khaku talks a lot around here, actually
low coral
Both teams that did all UBs should also continue their streak vs Lucy
shrewd marten
This team will die against an eterrain gimmicker
And I guess if they ever release an actual ice zone ub there will go irida but maybe they never will
Nc red will live forever
shrewd marten
Wot would it depend on
Worse come worse you go vigilance red and potion spam on Cynthia
Granted that doesn’t sound nice
But since they skipped out on thorton having hail or zone I don’t see anything countering red irida
warm haven
Who called me
warm haven
But since they skipped out on thorton having hail or zone I don’t see anything c...
They will add a UB with negative status change power up 9 that will kill all the top tiers 
shrewd marten
I don’t think they’ll ever do that
Like I don’t think negative status up will ever be a thing
Just in general
true lagoon
They will add a UB with negative status change power up 9 that will kill all the...
if they want to counter rats and nc red they’d need to do like wtz change def up x3 lol
sour elk
Positive rebuff enemies are going to pop up at some point, that would hinder both ice and electric regardless of Piercing Blows effects
Some skill text around the lines of "if the user is hit by a non-super effective attack, raise that type's rebuff by 1 stage" on a Palmer-like battle that pressures your output, or perhaps on a high HP wall like Anabel
It would suck for clear diversity though, directly and aggressively nerfing a type or all but 1 type like that would probably feel too on the nose
low coral
Positive rebuff enemies are going to pop up at some point, that would hinder bot...
Not really, as those are types with reliable -2
If anything, they would be ones that can deal with positive rebuffs
sour elk
It would get to +3 eventually even if it starts at -2
It could also jump to +3 on hit if letting escalate 1 stage at a time wouldn't work
sour elk
if the intention were to hinder electric I mean, since defensive passives are nullified by B Volt tackle and being mixed special/physical also gets arount Sentry/Wise Entry, rebuff as a forced obstacle is something that cannot be ignored but if it is just a fixed starting value then yeah it only makes electric even stronger in comparison with the type roster
it's just my yugioh diseased brain thinking about a rat/ice counter like breaking a board of monsters with ridiculous effects, but all I come up with feels like it's too specific and unnatural, anyways sorry for derailing the convo
jovial monolith
whoops procrastinated
pale mica
Hau EB is some BS
Am I supposed to strike with Lodge Lillie?
Goodbye 600 gems, I can always buy you
Then again, I didn't play for 9 whole months
lunar sedge
Oh lmao I forgot Galar VA p2 bc was mad annoying on release
spice basin
Oh is this the one designed for BT Leon/Glora
lunar sedge
Dragon/fire requirement for mission is still so 
Should've released Kabu with the time they had smh
frail oriole
Time to miss out on gems because of this one mission
shrewd marten
Why not do it one at a time
lunar sedge
Right just pull Leon alt and Gloralt 
shrewd marten
I have leon and leon
quick pewter
Uhhhhhhh
I managed triple galar with some trial and error but I have no idea what to do with fire + dragon here uh
obsidian meadow
I think this is our most accessible run https://youtu.be/BNMX2Jb-Lbs
quick pewter
Lucas is actually probably better than whatever I was trying to do with Cyrus lol
agile wave
Lucas is actually probably better than whatever I was trying to do with Cyrus lo...
Uhh
Judging from the battle,
I think i would've suffered if i hadn't pulled gloralt 
quick pewter
FINALLY
I literally just spammed Hop To It until the game decided to stop giving me MP refreshes and then spammed Leer with NCLeaf until my second sync move
It was horrible <3
I would've tried to let Lucas live but he got one shot by the sync every time so
...and I need to fix my lucky skills
Because hop doesn't deserve this
rotund oasis
Wheeee
Ball Guy just used sleep so i couldnt hit the guys fast enuff for the tm refresh orz
spare haven
gloria alt2 carried me too
rotund oasis
Just needed stat debuffers and status conditions
high harbor
the 2nd battle on the villain I did off-type, cuz I dont have any fire or dragon type galar pairs, I used hop, tina and zerena
rotund oasis
Tina can burn so thats nice.
stiff agate
a u u g h
jade grotto
Ended up doing the mission with regular Leon, NC Bede and regular SS Cynthia
high harbor
Tina can burn so thats nice.
wait she can?
rotund oasis
wait she can?
yep, top right of her grid iirc
spice swift
Any way I can get a clear for the Hear The Cheers Pt 2? I'm not seeing a way tbh
high harbor
Any way I can get a clear for the Hear The Cheers Pt 2? I'm not seeing a way tbh
why havent you exd tina?
rotund oasis
Zapdos can do rebuff + paralyze
so you just need people that can do damage i guess. or haste users. + points if you can drop their stats.
oh i see Oleana, could work.
with Hop.
spice swift
What about the missions
rotund oasis
Can you show your galar units?
i think you could run oleana + hop + galar pair, just no rebuff though hum.
spice swift
I mean more the Fire/Dragon one
stable tundra
You can try Oleana tanking, SS Morty and Drake for Fire/Dragon mission
spice swift
Oleana tanking? That seems wrong somehow
rotund oasis
she wont die. SS Morty's there to heal and combat the spd drops
stable tundra
Oleana tanking? That seems wrong somehow
she has good enough bulk to tank. SS Morty's healing and Drake's instant def buffs help her tanking better
spice swift
Morty doesn't have MP Refresh on Potion though
I tried it once and it seems Oleana still takes quite a bit of damage
stable tundra
use her max move in the first turn and do insta queue to make up for the turn loss, then use Venom Drench
spice swift
Can't afford to use trainer move before huh
stable tundra
well she is busy debuffing in the first sync cycle
alternatively you can use her Tm afterward to make up for the turn loss
leaden dagger
Tried and yeah the speed drops are too much
lunar sedge
Drake has gauge refill on his TM as well as Oleana
leaden dagger
Does nothing when you still have to deal with a 4 gauge move from oleana
frail oriole
If it’s just the galar mission you can clear with like sonia bea nessa
leaden dagger
This is for the fire and dragon part
lunar sedge
I ran Drake/Olena/SS Morty as well on the initial release even with the speed debuffs it's manageable
frail oriole
I did sonia ciris SS hilda
lunar sedge
https://youtu.be/Ar-p_9WvzdM?si=SB1MSTvJ14P53s4c
Starts at 2:55
leaden dagger
Yeah I gotta skip that one again
leaden dagger
I tried sonia, zerena and ssmorty, zerena gets one shot by sync
leaden dagger
Yeah acute senses hence why I tried zerena cause restrain
true lagoon
well i meant offensive as in damage augmented
but if you have someone with attack drops that helps a ton cuz they have less resistance to attack debuffs
stable tundra
sides have Healthy Advantage, while mid has Acute Sense
the former is covered by Sonia's paralysis
obsidian meadow
its not even that hard
Say what
leaden dagger
I got so damn lucky
If anyone tries this, just make sure you are spamming thousand waves, both cause defense drops and I guess he can remove the restrain halfway through
stone scarab
Restrain just wears off after enough time, nothing related to the boss