Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[valid raft]

I can almost do it if only Rei was 3/5

[rotund oasis]

but its tempting.

[radiant edge]

(Pretty much boss can oneshot you with every move post-sync) anyway

[low coral]

@candid crescent if you run Ramp Up 2 on Irida you can win pretty reliably

[valid raft]

Unless you use NC Blue + SS Mina

[tawdry bone]

I bet she could clear it

[frozen meteor]

I hate this game

[foggy dragon]

https://youtu.be/_O6T0Y0Qhd4

[spice basin]

I'm committed to making the fairy team work now

Is it possible for Palmer to get confused and fail a move?

[low coral]

There's a Gladion clear in-game already

Not sure what's your approach

[spice basin]

oh

[radiant edge]

Im astonished that you can survive that aoe Max Strike with tons of buffs lol

[cold tendon]

You cant survive max move

[stone scarab]

itd still advance the sync cd even if he hits himself unfort

[valid raft]

I don't have SS Mina, but I'm confident they can survive post-sync of Palmer

[spice basin]

You can with Mina

[spice basin]

I needed literally just one more turn, that would work

[valid raft]

Especially because SS Mina has damage guard with her B Move to prevent that +4 PMUN Giga Impact

[spice basin]

Time to reset for confusion hax

[cold tendon]

Whit mina damage guard yes

But other unit dont have it

[stone scarab]

i mean that it wouldnt work bc even if he hits himself it gets lowered

which is why he isnt immune to confusion

[spice basin]

But it would give me a chance to get another attack off right?

[tawdry bone]

I've not done a single EB

[spice basin]

Without getting KO'd by the move he was about to hit me with

[stone scarab]

oh

yeah it would

[spice basin]

Yeah okay that's what I need

[stone scarab]

im still in presync mentality oop

[spice basin]

Nah I'm post-sync

[crude marten]

bea riley already cleared

[rotund oasis]

whaat, where?

[low coral]

Oof, that critless sync hurt

[spice basin]

oh the replay uses the same team

And the same rotations I do I just need to save some SMUNs for the first BMove

[meager quarry]

Holy cow, It's possible even with these at 1/5

[low coral]

You literally just need to crit the sync

I'm not sure if you saw that you missed it

[spice basin]

Wait I missed a crit?

[peak mist]

Well. Serena hit like a wet fucking noodle.

There went that idea.

[spice basin]

holy shit no way

The wally sync is a no crit

[low coral]

Yeah, I've been telling you that lol your strat was already perfect

[spice basin]

I thought you were referring to Palmer's no crit sync hurting

[low coral]

Lmao

[spiral summit]

Palmer just buff so much

[low coral]

Debuff based nukes aren't the best here

If you're gonna use one, you need something like Hop, who gets either -1 or -3 guaranteed per hit for the stat you want

Alongside non-scaling debuff passives too

[peak mist]

Yeah that’s what I figured… it was -6 both defenses with that team and it still did dogshit

I’m gonna move onto Riley strats

I don’t even see half hp by time max move comes out so cerena is out the window here

[eternal yacht]

Can you share the grids and lucky skills for this comp

[peak mist]

And I find it safe to assume reds nuke will be too since I don’t know anyone else off top of my head that’ll do def and speed drops at same time to help him other than Geeta rng which fucks over red bc no para

I’ll mess with this in the morning though I’m sleepy

[peak mist]

Does red need 3/5 for this btw?

I have 3/5 irida and 1/5 exr redcuno

[candid crescent]

I'll try it
Oh, my redcuno is running CS2

I'll try to adjust grid a bit

[low coral]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009103044800&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBggKDQ4PESYoKi0&v1=000003014400&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDx8hIiQrLS4v&v2=028500047100&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13016303&t2=4444&g2=AAECAwQFFRgdICIjJSYnKCs

The gameplay is in-game atm, I didn't record it as video

Oh wait, I forgot to post the NC Silver clear here https://youtu.be/qJfBlcV2Lf8?si=lESfbtEEpyV63Uah

[spice basin]

My kings

[novel fog]

I need SS Wally

[fossil fjord]

The clear with Bea, NC Rosa and 1/5 NC Hop is not showing up anymore on successful teams

I hate this

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-alola-pokemon-gladion-gladion-pokemon-gif-14920401264322460212

[fossil fjord]

Also how are y'all surviving the sync?

[low coral]

My man got 5/5 NC Red and SS Dawn but never bothered to even get them to 140

[spice basin]

😭 135

[inner heath]

Can whales even buy uncap items

There’s a gem pack with those right

[spice basin]

I think so

[uncut saffron]

I quit

[low coral]

Healing Hail?

[uncut saffron]

Wait wtf

[low coral]

Are you running the wrong grid? Lol

[candid crescent]

CS2 is not enuff

[cosmic token]

I’m gonna try again later and wait for some videos. If not I’ll wait until I get another Support candy to 3/5 ACynth for CRed and Irida.

[low coral]

Rip, you followed the same turn order and grid from my replay, right?

[valid raft]

One more

[candid crescent]

Yes

[valid raft]

Someone give me 3 more sprint candy coins

[candid crescent]

I'll just wait till next LG

[low coral]

I also got good Skill Gear, so it might be that instead of CS2/WW3 even

[uncut saffron]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

I USE THE WRONG GRID

[low coral]

I just noticed I actually used my defensive Pin instead of offensive one lol

[low coral]

Hey, if you got that close, that probably means it's an easy win now

[uncut saffron]

i used thw rong grid

[candid crescent]

My gears are way worse

[uncut saffron]

3 AND I WENT TO THE WRONG CHANNEL

[candid crescent]

Can't even freeze to abuse em

[uncut saffron]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-tetsuo-tetsuo-shima-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-12118377099744361472

I HATE MY LIFE SO MUCH

[nova tapir]

this battle is painful lmao

[valid raft]

I probably need to farm another skill gear

[low coral]

And I actually meant to use this Gear, I just forgot to swap when doing the clear

[valid raft]

I relied on RNG so much for Rosa to get +2 attack for Rei

I'm still actually surprised that a 2/5 Rei as a solo damage dealer can get that close

If he was 3/5, this would've been an automatic win

[lunar sedge]

I really wished NC Rosa has either HS1 or adr1 on her grid this team really needed her to have both

[uncut saffron]

I BEAT HIM

I BEAT HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

GET FUCKED, LOSER!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHHA

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-crazy-paper-college-spongebob-gif-5439517

[rotund oasis]

jeez

[low coral]

@hearty cedar weren't you trying this? There's a SC Diantha clear up now

[rotund oasis]

send gridss D;

[uncut saffron]

oh ok

[valid raft]

There is a clear with SSA Cynthia/Rei/NC Rosa?

[low coral]

Not rn I think

[valid raft]

Damn

I would've been the first if it weren't for Rei holding me back

[candid crescent]

Is there a riley clear yet?

[valid raft]

@crude marten Claimed they did

[crude marten]

yeah there are riley clears already

and bea too

with chop and rosa for both

[uncut saffron]

NC Red & Chase is kek'd btw

[spiral summit]

I did it

[valid raft]

Hmmmm yeah

But I almost did it with 1/5 NC Rosa only

[spiral summit]

Bc 3/5 doesn’t give much

For this fight

[valid raft]

If you don't have Rei, then she gives Potion

[rotund oasis]

why staggering? you can't flinch him?

[valid raft]

Because you might have someone like NC Hop or SC Diantha

[spiral summit]

Like this is all i grid for her lol

[uncut saffron]

..........

[spiral summit]

[low coral]

I also did that once

[hearty cedar]

It can kill palmer before he syncs but the sides will spam aoe critical hit moves and will kill you

[low coral]

But TM MPR should be taken too

[low coral]

Did you see my ping?

[rotund oasis]

TM refresh on NC Blue? 😮

[uncut saffron]

If you removed staggering, i think you can do some +sp attack buffs lol

[whole field]

My answer to these questions is usually: because I don't bother swapping grids for anything ever

[low coral]

There's a SC Diantha clear in-game

[viral canyon]

Not on my imagination I would grab Blue TM refresh👀

[valid raft]

Surprised you didn't go for TM MPR

[hearty cedar]

WOW!!!

[rotund oasis]

whose the nuker though? SST Red?

[viral canyon]

A must, at least ash have +6 SMUN

[spiral summit]

Bc 20% is hell

[rotund oasis]

who syncs though?

[spiral summit]

I rather reset for Rei’s Tm

[uncut saffron]

Oh @rotund oasis one more thing, you want for chase to use tm at first turn AND have his tm refresh

just once

[rotund oasis]

yeah i've been doing that. did 320k damgae with Ash's BMove 😮

[viral canyon]

Ofc, Ash.
And I'm not aware, I don't set Not Gonna Lose and 1 of the sides Rocksliding me to death because Piercing blow

[uncut saffron]

www

what the fu

[spiral summit]

@valid raft do you use Rosa BMove turn 1 ?

[rotund oasis]

still couldn't crack it 😄

i have been streaming my attempts for like... 2 hours now

[uncut saffron]

[spiral summit]

I use Pot turn 1

[valid raft]

No, I don't even have HS1 on Rosa anyways

[spiral summit]

[valid raft]

And my Rei is 2/5

[exotic dome]

I am feeling dumb but I can’t do palmer

Lol

[spiral summit]

[exotic dome]

I cannot quad queue today

[valid raft]

After syncing with Rosa, I use Teeter Dance and Potion

[viral canyon]

That guy with 1/5 Rei
You are insane. I won't getting headache with skill gear.

Thx for your hardwork👀

[spiral summit]

What what about HS ?

Can you still quad in there ?

[exotic dome]

I know

Can palmer be slept or something?

[spiral summit]

Nah

[hearty cedar]

Nope

[low coral]

Did you try following my clear?

[spiral summit]

He hate denied

[valid raft]

Should I accept a skill gear with Main Character theme with Critastrophe?

[rotund oasis]

which one? Chase + Ash + NC Blue one?

[low coral]

That's not mine

[valid raft]

Eh fuck it, no

[low coral]

Red/Irida/Chase

[rotund oasis]

Oh

my chase is 2/5 EX Role

[low coral]

Although I also did Tbolt Red / Ash / Chase

[valid raft]

WTF man, I got a good roll for electric units with 2 of the additional effects having ET

[lunar sedge]

Lmfaoo

[exotic dome]

I’ll try nchop rei and NCRosa btw

[low coral]

And NC Red / Aura Cynthia / Irida

[hearty cedar]

How??? Educate us

[valid raft]

It even comes with +20 attack

Should I keep it?

[pine loom]

First Riley instance I see

[lunar sedge]

@spice basin he died but Riley clear

[low coral]

Not sure if you got the options for those others

There's also NC Hop / Rei / NC Silver, but Hop + Rei opens up a lot of thirds to clear

[spice basin]

[hearty cedar]

Give us the details pls

[lunar sedge]

NC Rosa quadque I think is the most important part of this

[hearty cedar]

I have adrenaline 1 on her

[lunar sedge]

I have HS1

[hearty cedar]

So I dont have to quad queue right?

Have any video footage?

[lunar sedge]

I wish

[viral canyon]

For those curious about gear, I missed Electric gear coop, but looks like AshRedBlue still stomps.

[lunar sedge]

I have to record it at some point but who knows how many tries

[hearty cedar]

Do it for us dear lord

And pls continue with the details

[lunar sedge]

I will don't worry

[hearty cedar]

1st sync rosa

[lunar sedge]

Would only cost my sanity I think

[hearty cedar]

Immediately riley's max move

2nd sync is for riley ig?

[lunar sedge]

Yes

Oh yeah my max move is after Riley sync actually

[hearty cedar]

Ooh

[lunar sedge]

So I could zoom to hop sync sooner

[hearty cedar]

1st sync after 3 turns

Rosa takes the 1st sync(with quad queue or adrenaline 1)

Then riley's sync after 2 turns(with strike ex role)

Max move after his sync to reach your 3rd sync?

[lunar sedge]

Make sure there's fighting zone btw

[hearty cedar]

Sure

[lunar sedge]

Just before Riley sync

[hearty cedar]

Did you eat palmer's sync?

[lunar sedge]

Nope

I ate a blizzard instead

[hearty cedar]

I got the gist of killing the centre. What did you spam for the sides?

[exotic dome]

@spiral summit I’ve found the problem

[lunar sedge]

I may have some details missing since there was a bit of an adrenaline rush

[exotic dome]

It’s called lg

[spiral summit]

I have that during Hs too

[lunar sedge]

Snorlax ate up a +4 PMUN CC I believe then a thunder kick

[hearty cedar]

Damn

[lunar sedge]

The snorlax didn't get crit on Riley's sync in that run

[hearty cedar]

I aint surviving 2 aoe attacks

Damn

Send me grids

[lunar sedge]

Gimme a sec

[exotic dome]

[low coral]

Ultra heavy investment frogs won

[lunar sedge]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010102064800&s0=1&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgcICQoMERITFBobHB0eICUmJyg&v1=024401014501&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFCw4dICMlKSwtLi8&v2=015600044800&s2=5&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFCQwOEhgbKSotLi8

[spiral summit]

Nice

[low coral]

Those are 70 energy grids

[viral canyon]

Edit:
Tried again.
+4 SMUN is doable, so without Blue's TM refresh.
But, at least -5 SpDef from Red is the critical here.

[hearty cedar]

Did you manage to barely kill palmer before he sync'd?

If not then I'd ditch hs1 on rosa and riley for cs2 on Riley

[lunar sedge]

It was barely yeah

He had like 5% hp left before dying to a stacked kick

I forgot how many hop has at that point

Like I said I'm missing many details bc of the rush I have to redo later and take notes

May take a while tho since I got other stuffs to do

[hearty cedar]

Time to run hs1 then

[lunar sedge]

Good luck I think you also probably want to get lucky getting a +2 speed

To max Riley innate

[agile wind]

How did you clear with them

I can't kill Palmer before he uses his max move

[viral canyon]

You need grid?

[river prawn]

Uhh I don't think I am able to beat this one

[agile wind]

I do have them gridded

all of them are 3/5

[eternal yacht]

Holy shit this was tough (pre sync clear btw)

[viral canyon]

No, I mean the "specific" grid to beat palmer.

[agile wind]

Ah

can you share them please?

[craggy wind]

This Palmers was worse than i thought

[frozen meteor]

this battle feels

impossibl

like bro i'm not dealing enough

[viral canyon]

Wait

[craggy wind]

Ye i dont hv Rei or NC Hop so i guess im just losing

[frozen meteor]

i have both and STILL losing

[crude marten]

i tried cerena comp with geeta

can kill the mid but not the sides

[agile wind]

Thank you

[crude marten]

and rockslide just ends the entire run

[hearty cedar]

How the Heck did you manage to quad queue rosa lol. It's so hard

[viral canyon]

Red and Blue with Ex role. Although, maybe Red doesn't need it. But Blue is a must I think.

[hearty cedar]

Give us the details

[quartz adder]

Ultimate Battle more like Ultra Easy Battle

Anabel remains the only UB I can‘t beat

[warm haven]

Noo I wanted to post this one 😭

[eternal yacht]

Head Start 1 on both Rosa and Hop, CS2 on Bea; Hop needs +6 sync grid investment (3/5) and then simple grid options

[pine loom]

I skipped Aura Cynthia

[hearty cedar]

Never thought I'd say this but this ub is probably worse than anabel ub

[pine loom]

[viral canyon]

Also, if we go with Blue TM refresh, at least Ash has +6 SMUN after Palmer sync first.

And don't forget to activating Not Gonna Lie for damage guard next, because beware of 1 sides with Rock slide.

[hearty cedar]

How are you guys quad queueing rosa? I cant even get it right

[crude marten]

you can just cheat with adr

[eternal yacht]

You only need to quad queue twice

also Bea and Critical Clock so if you mess it up you still have a chance

[hearty cedar]

Unfortunately, seems like I have to use hs1 on her

[sacred sphinx]

Electric Kantrio can clear it seems

[valid raft]

Am I doing it wrong or is Ash only dealing 350k+ with his B Move at 7 SpMUN stacks?

[hearty cedar]

Bea with 4 extra energy?

[eternal yacht]

no extra energy on Bea/Rosa

[crude marten]

350k is big

[eternal yacht]

just 6 on Hop

[hearty cedar]

Give me bea's grid pls. Only 3 sync tiles?

[valid raft]

My plan is to OHKO Palmer with Ash's B Move

[spiral summit]

Just quad it

[eternal yacht]

sec

[sacred sphinx]

You’re meant to do that much

[lunar sedge]

Yeah that's the difficult part lol

Quad with her TM

[sacred sphinx]

That should be enough to KO Palmer

[hearty cedar]

It's so difficult to quad queue with her tm than with others

[eternal yacht]

@hearty cedar

[hearty cedar]

Only 1 sync tile?

[eternal yacht]

yes

[hearty cedar]

Only nuking with hop?

[eternal yacht]

no

Bea

[rotund oasis]

wtf? D:?!

[eternal yacht]

you need to kill the sides also

[rotund oasis]

How?

[hearty cedar]

1st sync rosa

What about other syncs?

[eternal yacht]

bea

[hearty cedar]

2nd sync hop and 3rd is bea?

[eternal yacht]

no hop sync

[hearty cedar]

Or bea both times?

Oooh

[eternal yacht]

it's in the in-game clear I think

[rotund oasis]

i triedd this but got shafted 😦

if you've got a guide i'd run it

[vale pivot]

I hate regigigas

[sacred sphinx]

You should watch the in game clear

[viral canyon]

Wait. I'll charge my phone first haha

[sacred sphinx]

That’s how I was able to clear it

[rotund oasis]

😮

wait ingame clear?

HMM

imma die in a corner for now

[valid raft]

I got 440k on Palmer with 9 SpMUN stacks

[rotund oasis]

i've been trying multiple teams for hours ;_;

[eternal yacht]

try the bea one imo I cleared it on the 2nd try with it

[rotund oasis]

3/5 Chase, Ash and NC Blue one right?

[sacred sphinx]

B Thunderbolt is meant to KO Palmer

[eternal yacht]

if you don't wanna use kanto stuff

[rotund oasis]

with OverGrid ?

[viral canyon]

Basically, satisfied snickers is not a must for Blue, I mean Palmer is all phy

[valid raft]

I think it's because my rotation is different

[sacred sphinx]

If you’re using Chase don’t use Blue

[rotund oasis]

hum i see.

[hearty cedar]

F U palmer

[vale pivot]

Is ultimate Battle a way for me to pay for my sins for not getting NC Blue?

[valid raft]

I'm relying of maximum SpMUN stacks

[sacred sphinx]

Wait why tho

[valid raft]

Because that's my strat

[sacred sphinx]

Ash only needs +4 SMUN to KO, no?

[valid raft]

Depends

I'm doing it differently

I was able to KO Palmer before he used Max Strike

[sacred sphinx]

Same here

[hearty cedar]

Thanks for the tips

[eternal yacht]

wait how did that frog team not die to palmer sync

???

[mighty plover]

Do you have the setup for this?

[eternal yacht]

it dealt like 50% damage

[sacred sphinx]

Yeah lemme get it up

[viral canyon]

You done unlock cap him?

[uncut saffron]

i dont think you can survive his MM either way

[mighty plover]

Thank you my love

[valid raft]

But then I got destroyed to Rock Slide

[low coral]

You're often seeing Palmer syncing with multiple Attack buffs

[lunar sedge]

Did you clear it? 👀

[low coral]

Cerena is removing those buffs

As well as Lysandre

As they also used Burned Down 9

[valid raft]

I wanna see what 10 SpMUN stacks looks like

[eternal yacht]

oh right

[hearty cedar]

Yeeep

Once rosa allowed me to quad queue it was easy

[vale pivot]

Why can't anything defeat regigas the first time?

[lunar sedge]

Aye congarts

[hearty cedar]

Had to 3/5 hop

[vale pivot]

regi never takes high damage
Damn

[hearty cedar]

No regrets since he is still awesome

[lunar sedge]

Yeah he really wants those multiplier

[hearty cedar]

But strike ex role on riley is a bit regrettable for me

[hearty cedar]

They really wanted to torture us

[vale pivot]

Any off type pair can nuke that regi?

[hearty cedar]

Next is lucy and she is easy

[uncut saffron]

NC Red

[sacred sphinx]

@wanton silo

[lunar sedge]

On the bright side Arch would be happy to hear another Riley Max

[rotund oasis]

Okay

[lunar sedge]

[vale pivot]

My nc red doens't nuke him

[rotund oasis]

i've got another team for this Hehe

[uncut saffron]

sad

[rotund oasis]

letsee iff it orks

[uncut saffron]

i kek'd him

[rotund oasis]

@uncut saffron LOOK AT MY TEAM

[uncut saffron]

where?

[hearty cedar]

Chase + ash/nc.red + irida/sstr

Nc.blue + ash + sstr

Ssac + nc.red + irida

Basically best teams in the entire game

[vale pivot]

No chase
No nc blue

Only pain

[hearty cedar]

Same

[hearty cedar]

Lol true

[low coral]

No Aura Cyn?

[sacred sphinx]

PS: All the skill gears I used are the free ones

[low coral]

Cynthia can also be used with Red and Irida

[boreal abyss]

This battle was surely a battle

[vale pivot]

I have skill issue

[mighty plover]

mf used the wrong @ 😭

[hearty cedar]

You basically need to spam sync countdowns

[mighty plover]

Thank youuu

[vale pivot]

Who

[hearty cedar]

You

[low coral]

My replay still is in-game I think

You can follow it

[valid raft]

I'm unlucky on Chase's X Sp. Atk. MPR

[fossil fjord]

I wish I could find that 1/5 NC Hop + Bea replay again 😭

[hearty cedar]

Ayo

[crude marten]

does lyss have propulsion

[frozen meteor]

1/5 rei always die

am I stupid?

[low coral]

No, the only accel LySS can get is Adrenaline 1

Which is on a terrible spot

[sacred sphinx]

Naur 😭😭

[crude marten]

ah i see

they probably deny sides then

[sacred sphinx]

That’s mb Mori

[low coral]

Yeah, that and they can survive sync via debuffs and burn

But the comp is incredibly inaccessible

[crude marten]

idt burn matters, i can survive sync with geeta

[valid raft]

How the hell did I deal 400k with 10 SpMUN stacks?

[low coral]

As everyone is running 70 energy

[crude marten]

same comp but geeta instead of lyss

[valid raft]

Oh fuck

[crude marten]

i have trouble with sides

[low coral]

LySS needs it for Burned Down and multipliers

[valid raft]

I forgot to rebuff with Blue

[crude marten]

actually think kris might be the better play here

for my comp at least

[vale pivot]

Did you use energy cap?

[low coral]

I got +1 energy on Irida to get Ramp Up 2

[nova tapir]

Should’ve hit harder

[sacred sphinx]

Yoo just barely alive

We take those

[nova tapir]

Zone ran out before Hop sync sadly

[sacred sphinx]

Tragic

[hearty cedar]

1/5 rei?

[nova tapir]

No but could probably be done by a 1/5 rei

Adrenaline 1 for rei and rosa, head start 1 for hop

[hearty cedar]

How did you manage to not kill the stage with that team all at 3/5 lol

[nova tapir]

Huh

[rotund oasis]

Sheesh

its a great comp if i saay so myself ;o

[hearty cedar]

Best fighting comp in the game

[rotund oasis]

SST Red, NC Hop and NC Rosa

sigh

50% after +7 PMUN and Sync for 200k

[crude marten]

unironically blue in rat comp is still the better option for palmer

i thought chase wouldve done it faster

[rotund oasis]

which rats?

oh

[crude marten]

sst and ash

[rotund oasis]

the 3rd anniversary rats

[mighty plover]

Wait so I use Ash's B thunderbolt only after the 4th sync move?

[rotund oasis]

5th sync move with like +6 or more SMUN

or 4th sync move with +9 or +10

you need to KO Palmer before he uses his max move.

[valid raft]

Ok, it seems that both hits of Ancient Power from Palmer is enough to get Ash down to critical HP

[rotund oasis]

so before he syncs?

[valid raft]

Yeah

So I have to rely on Ash for TM MPR

[rotund oasis]

TM Redemption hmm

wait your comp is basically SST Red, Ash and NC Blue right?

or was it Chase, Ash and NC Blue?

[valid raft]

No, NC Blue/Ash/Chase

[rotund oasis]

for maximum stacking of SMUNs?

the only hijinks with that comp iss that you wont be able to use Chase's paralyze ability for Ash's Nuke.

you're gonna have to paralyze with NC Blue and Chase's Thundershock i suppose

[valid raft]

NC Blue

[low coral]

How fast did Blue do?

[sacred sphinx]

After the second

[valid raft]

Piercing Blows directly ignores DR in any form whether it's grid, skill gear or passive right?

[final yacht]

I changed the page yesterday that's why lol

[crude marten]

its at -1 sync countdown parameter

lemme get the video actually

its not mine btw

[rotund oasis]

head start 1 NC Blue?

[sacred sphinx]

Shouldn't it be Adrenaline

[crude marten]

https://youtu.be/q2Buf1l28Qg?si=ENtuax0-6Uaz7ihe

[valid raft]

I'm running out of lodge stones

[sacred sphinx]

The move order I did was: Max Move, Ash TM, Discharge, Red TM, Thunder, Discharge, B Volt Tackle, Discharge, then sync with NC Blue

[crude marten]

@low coral

[sacred sphinx]

That's mighty similar to the one in the clears in game

[valid raft]

But I don't have a choice, I'm committed to this

[rotund oasis]

wut?

oh he's runnin adrenaline 1 hmm

[valid raft]

I fucked up a perfect run

LMFAO

[final yacht]

So is Palmer as hard as people said it was

[sacred sphinx]

It's hard, that's for sure

[crude marten]

we overestimate palmer tbh

[spice basin]

He's tough but I don't think he's as hard as painted to be

[rotund oasis]

damn

I'm checking if i've got Adrenaline 1 then lulz

[crude marten]

idt they use adrenaline?

[rotund oasis]

they did

[final yacht]

Lmfao I love that today's first submission is on Darach not Palmer

[low coral]

Oh, that's pretty good

[hearty cedar]

Ashtank simply winning hearts by taking lives

[sacred sphinx]

Oh dang pre sync clear with rats

[rotund oasis]

Yeah

they were spamming Speed Up

[sacred sphinx]

I did a post sync clear

[final yacht]

Rafa already added a rat clear to the doc lol

[rotund oasis]

to get the quad que

[hearty cedar]

Nah, its just that the best teams are just that op

[low coral]

Well, the tank was pretty irrelevant there tbh

[sacred sphinx]

Post sync clear meant Ash got +4 SMUN from his passive and Blue's TM

[low coral]

And yeah, I think Palmer is performing as expected

[hearty cedar]

Ik its just funny

[frozen meteor]

So

I'm out here seeing

some peoply say Rosa has a weird grid

to contribute to this battle

I've seen replays with people using

weird ass grids

[low coral]

The weird grid is that she barely has useful stuff

[frozen meteor]

no team sharp entry 1

[low coral]

Just run the extra SMUN/PMUN and TM MPR

[crude marten]

tbh yeah

[low coral]

Alongside TSE1 if applicable, yes

[frozen meteor]

you wanna hear

something funny?

[hearty cedar]

I ran the def and sp.def per turn grid and still won. Palmer doesnt care about rosa's grid

[frozen meteor]

yeah i was gonna say this

MPR1 leggo

[fossil fjord]

LOL can't beat Palmer, but I found a random Argenta clear with NC Rosa, NC Serena and Irida and was able to replicate
No candy for Adaman

[crude marten]

it triggers in my run

[crude marten]

but i dont even get to use it

he just dies

[hearty cedar]

Gratz

[valid raft]

Welp, I'm relying on TM MPR of both Ash and NC Blue for my plan

[low coral]

Shall I submit NC Red + Cyn again to keep the streak going?

I sent some, but not that one yet

[hearty cedar]

Cannot wait to toy with lucy

[final yacht]

Submit whatever lol as long as it works

[hearty cedar]

Her ub is by far the easiest

[low coral]

Ik, just joking around

[rotund oasis]

Ash'ss TM? the Endure one?

[low coral]

Eh, Lucy has some annoying gimmicks, but swappable LS makes it much more trivial

[frozen meteor]

i still think it's funny that

[low coral]

Having to give up on Deluxe skills for Antitoxin would be far worse

[frozen meteor]

we have not seen any

[final yacht]

Antitoxin gaming

[hearty cedar]

Hau ebe made us prepared for LS swaps anyway

[frozen meteor]

triple offense team

without supports

i mean all you do is take 2 hits

[low coral]

I did do NC Silver / NC Hop / Rei

[hearty cedar]

Rats doesn't even need antitoxin

[frozen meteor]

and most units nowadays

don't even need supports to function

[frozen meteor]

eyyy nice

[valid raft]

I have the perfect runs and it's getting fucked by me not quadqueueing

[hearty cedar]

This ub forces us to quad queue and ramp

[low coral]

The good thing is that Palmer himself basically doesn't offer RNG

If a run has RNG, it's all on the user side

[hearty cedar]

Ss mina cleared like 4 ub's so far

Damn

Pretty sure ss gladion cleared all of them

[low coral]

He did, yes

[hearty cedar]

Gladion is kinda busted for ub's

[spiral summit]

[low coral]

Gladion, both Master Reds, Cerena, Ash, NC Blue, Aura Cynthia, NC Rosa

[tight quail]

Do you need invested rei for this palmer fight? Or can do with NC hop and Ssa cynthia??

[low coral]

Are the ones with the streak currently iirc

[spiral summit]

I played this really bad but Tm mpr help me

[hearty cedar]

Noice

[hearty cedar]

Gratz

[low coral]

Idr if SS Wally has the streak or not

[hearty cedar]

Wally was replaced for 1 ub i think

[valid raft]

I finally did it, but Ash's B Move did 463k with 10 stacks of SpMUN

[final yacht]

Wally beat Anabel but carried by Kris and Serena so it doesnt count

[low coral]

Yeah, I remembered that one, but didn't count

[rotund oasis]

Okay

[low coral]

And I think he was swapped when Gladion did it

[rotund oasis]

attempting again

[hearty cedar]

Ss mina, gladion, wally can clear anabel

[rotund oasis]

streaming it too

[warm haven]

SS Wally?

[valid raft]

If Ash had taken a little bit more damage, then I would've triggered Pinch Push and gotten a 3rd sync before Palmer's 1st

[warm haven]

yeah this

[hearty cedar]

Yep

[hearty cedar]

Ash doing sprint shenanigans

[low coral]

No, nvm, Wally did Anabel, he was swapped on Argenta

[valid raft]

I might have to use a non-electric pin

[final yacht]

Welp time to get out of bed and update the doc

[hearty cedar]

With whom? I forgot

[low coral]

NC Leaf

[hearty cedar]

Morty, leaf and gladion right?

[low coral]

No, Mina over Morty

Which does mean Mina got all for now too

[spice basin]

[low coral]

• NC Red
• Tbolt Red
• NC Blue
• SS Gladion
• NC Serena
• Ash
• Aura Cynthia
• NC Rosa
• SS Mina
  Did I miss anyone?

NC Hop maybe got all?

[tight quail]

need palmer help

[valid raft]

4 Kanto units here

[low coral]

Try NC Hop / NC Rosa / Rei or Riley

[low coral]

With the potential for Leaf to join

[spice basin]

Which ones has Wally not cleared?

[low coral]

But Leaf's Power Play is quite annoying to use vs Palmer

[warm haven]

i havent seen a hop clear against argenta but she's easier than most ubs so i should be possible

[low coral]

I don't remember Wally doing Argenta, did he do it?

[warm haven]

NC Silver also did All UBs

[round latch]

Hi for palmer challenge, is zapdos lucky skill adrenaline 1 or head start 1 from sceptilefan?

[low coral]

I think he uses CS2 lol

I would use Adrenaline since it removes some pressure from you quadqueuing

[tight quail]

Wow. Worked like a charm. NC hop nuke is ridonkulous. I kept trying to put cynthia lucario in there when I should have started with meloetta only. Palmer doesn't hit hard until he syncs. Then he wipes us out. So those relic song boosts were awesome.

[low coral]

Yeah, it's a Slow Start Regigigas, so you gotta beat him early

[rotund oasis]

wtf?

i can't replicate this. what gives D:

[crude marten]

skill gear?

[round latch]

Ok thnks

[tawdry sail]

Yeah I can't clear before Palmer syncs with the fighting trio, no idea what I'm doing wrong

[valid raft]

I failed to trigger Pinch Push

Even with non-electric gear

[crude marten]

yeah figured

i thought of running ppush3 but seems like his damage is not enough

ash is just too bulky

[plush gale]

How did you do it!

[valid raft]

Nah, it's the Kanto Circle that's protecting him from the 2nd Ancient Power

[crude marten]

i see

[final yacht]

@low coral ls on ncred ? you didnt put it

[agile wind]

FUCKING FINALLY

[low coral]

WW3 for all of them if they don't show up

[agile wind]

I had to rely on luck and hope to get an MP Refresh on NC Blue

[low coral]

My bad, weird that it didn't copy

[agile wind]

to get a +6 special move up next and one shot Palmer with B Thunderbolt

[low coral]

Since it was previously saved as CS2, so I never got LS-less NC Red when doing the grids

Must've hit it by accident

[agile wind]

So basically in this UB, if you can't kill Palmer before his Max move

you die?

That seems to be the case

[low coral]

Unless you run crit shield

[final yacht]

the red grid is wrong too

[spiral summit]

Rei’s Tm mpr

[low coral]

Delete one B Ice Beam node

I have 6 extra energy

[final yacht]

kk

[low coral]

But, to have a comp that has the capability to survive Max and still offensive power to KO Palmer, you're almost locked into Mina / Gladion / Wally

[final yacht]

wait did really no one do an irida clear on darach? ig her zone/hail doesn't last long enough

[tawdry sail]

Swapped Aura Cyn for CRos a and won lol

[low coral]

Wait, I didn't?

Maybe I didn't submit

[final yacht]

I don't have any irida clear on darach

[viral canyon]

Dude, you could still finish him. That's not even after sync

[low coral]

Yeah, I never uploaded it

[crude marten]

i should start submiting my clears but im too lazy

[low coral]

I'll submit the freeze-less pre-sync then

[agile wind]

I will fine Palmer for this UB

[low coral]

I haven't posted it on my channel either, just posted it around Discord

[rotund oasis]

yeah i'm checking this guy's run

that was his Ash's BMove with only 2 SMUNs

3 Sync buffs

[agile wind]

Can you resist the max move if you have crit shield?

[crude marten]

whats your bthunderbolt dmg at

its probably skill gear

[rotund oasis]

possibly

i'm trying to replicate his run

[viral canyon]

Well, I'm doing it with Water gear. 👀

[crude marten]

@rotund oasis 2 sync buff but +4 smun

this is a low roll btw

[agile wind]

how many SMUN do you have before B Thunderbolt?

[crude marten]

high roll should be 240k+

[agile wind]

I think you need a +6 in order to KO him

as for me, I did 307k

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/aaa-rowlet-screaming-shouting-mouth-open-gif-15162312

Palmer was like at 10% HP left

2/5 Rei and with gridded stuff

And I have Superduper Effective 1

2/5 Rei has potential to beat him

As a solo damage dealer that is

[frozen meteor]

i used 1/5

[crude marten]

1/5 rei is good enough if you can afford sc steven and rosa

[frozen meteor]

in a duo damage

[viral canyon]

I'm curious if it's Gear or your Ash 5/5 haha

[agile wind]

Oh right, a suggestion in case you KO Palmer before his sync move

[agile wind]

after he goes KO, the next to attack will be Snorlax

[rotund oasis]

o.o

its possible... hmmm

you have to quadque at the beginning

[valid raft]

I'm hard relying on RNG with my pikabird team

[rotund oasis]

after you drop SST Red's Dynamax

and also after NC Blue

unfortunately my sync was kinda bad

74k

the guy hit for 90k on sync

[valid raft]

MPR on Ash's TM so that he retains his SpMUN stacks

[agile wind]

My initial turn was: Ash TM, Discharge, SSTRed Max Move

[rotund oasis]

yeah his initial turn was that

[agile wind]

afterward, SSTRed trainer move with then volt tackle spam

[rotund oasis]

but he uses SSTRed's TM

yeah

Hmm

still 250k with BMove at 2 SMUNss

its... doable

SST Red just needs to -6 DEF/SP.DEF

[agile wind]

I did multiply tries, but I needed a bit of luck

[viral canyon]

This is what I mentioned before tho

[agile wind]

when you are, I think at 4 sync move countdown, you use NC Blue Trainer Move, hoping for a MP Refresh to get a +4 SMUN

When Palmer uses his sync move, he should lower pika ash HP enough to trigger his passive to get a +6 SMUN

That's when you use B Thunderbolt, that's how I did it

so yeah, you need a bit of luck to get the MP Refresh on NC Blue trainer move

[agile wind]

I used these sync grids

of course all 3 of them need to be 3/5

[crude marten]

@rotund oasis i dont see any benefit from running adr there

you probabyl dont need it

can replace with dc2 or mg2

[final yacht]

is there a shot that this works with SC Diantha instead of Rei ?

[warm haven]

no damage to the sides

[final yacht]

rei isn't R

[warm haven]

his b move is still aoe

[final yacht]

that's why i ask

f

[agile wind]

Rei & Decidueye is the best unit for Palmer?

[crude marten]

rei is like the biggest piece here yea

[warm haven]

ye

[valid raft]

Rei, NC Hop, SC Diantha

[rotund oasis]

hmm okay

[valid raft]

Along with units like NC Rosa and SSA Cynthia

[warm haven]

there's a gap between rei an the others because of the lack of AoE

[valid raft]

Rei also has a mini-tech multiplier innately

[agile wind]

I also had another question, with Crit Shield, can you withstand the max move?

[valid raft]

If you replace the zone, yes

Which is why SS Mina is great here

She replaces zone and gives your team crit shield

And she has her B Move to protect you from that Giga Impact

[crude marten]

they even nerf rei’s guaranteed flinch and he still dabs on palmer

[valid raft]

Fall Roxanne is the best damage dealer for Lucy right?

[warm haven]

https://youtu.be/5ASrvBcCHVM

Triple sprint clear

[final yacht]

First clears have been added

[valid raft]

NC Rosa + Rei + SSA Cynthia

[warm haven]

~~i just send mine ~~

[final yacht]

I don't have it ?

[warm haven]

oh i actually didnt click send

now

[uncut saffron]

Hmmm
Should i add one myself? Its chase/irida/nc red tho

[final yacht]

yup

[uncut saffron]

Where can i add?

[final yacht]

i take everything

[crude marten]

is dupe run ok?

[final yacht]

there's a submission link in the readme in the doc

dupe runs are ok, they just end up going to the miscellaneous page lol

[crude marten]

its different rotation and grid

oh well

[final yacht]

i don't want to flood the doc with 50 times the same team

[uncut saffron]

You know what? i think i shouldn't

i do not want to do it again

[warm haven]

Surprisingly no nc bede clear

[rotund oasis]

Damn

okay now i see an error

[slow sky]

[rotund oasis]

he wasn't doing any debuffss at all hmm

with NC Blue

[low coral]

There was one in-game

Idk if it's still up

[crude marten]

yeah its fine

[spice basin]

There are 2 Reis

[crude marten]

yeah i saw bede earlier

[final yacht]

There are 5 reis

[warm haven]

yeah there it is

[rotund oasis]

and his NC Blue is EXRole'd

Haaah

very well game

[final yacht]

oh wait

[spice basin]

in Ropalme's team

[rotund oasis]

very well.

[final yacht]

i see what you mean lol

[spice basin]

[final yacht]

No way a Khaku submission without any error in the grid ?

[warm haven]

seems fake

[low coral]

This play was amazing

[final yacht]

Welp I need to find how I beat Palmer myself now

[slow sky]

☠️

[warm haven]

i thought i cut that out

[final yacht]

(if you want to reupload with that cut i'll update it )

[low coral]

Lmao jk the clear is indeed super fire, prob my fav one for Palmer so far

[warm haven]

I'll cut it with youtube, it should be the same link

[final yacht]

kk

[slate light]

damn palmer got hands

[final yacht]

He got grips

[rotund oasis]

ARGH

ALMOST

ALMOST THERE

[nova tapir]

rei do u have 3/5 rei and hop

[rotund oasis]

i've got NC Hop at 3/5

but no rei

[nova tapir]

damn

[slow sky]

my hop just refuses to crit in 2 battles

zzz

might have won if he did

[rotund oasis]

ROCK SLIDED

[dim inlet]

I really had to cake my Rei for that battle

I don’t regret it

[prisma temple]

Ok what should I look for
Ik i beat him in battle rally a lot but that's with like lots of boosts

[rotund oasis]

Hmm okaay

[prisma temple]

Ouf

Rats

[rotund oasis]

i think i can sync with ash before they rock slide yeah

[nova tapir]

same. didnt really wanna spend the recourses tbh

[final yacht]

It'll be useful in rally

[nova tapir]

true ig

couldve given it to cynthia tho

[rotund oasis]

Damnit. Hmm

it really really is RNG :x

[slow sky]

WTF HOP

3rd line u refuse to crit at the most crucial time

@#%#&^%$@

[pine loom]

I lack NC Blue

[slate light]

is there an alternative to thundermid? 🧐

[final yacht]

chase

[rotund oasis]

FINALLY

DONE....

Damn. Just. Damn.

let me cry in a corner.

[slow sky]

fml

the flich got my team wiped

[crude marten]

@rotund oasis found a slightly different rotation

but yeah it caps at -1 for now

[valid raft]

I got screwed by Palmer being confused

[uncut saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[rotund oasis]

thanks

[valid raft]

And he didn't hit SSA Cynthia and didn't unlock her B Move

[rotund oasis]

but the resources i used was... ugh

[uncut saffron]

👀

how many candies?

[rotund oasis]

-1 Omni Candy.
-1 Sprint Cake
-1 Strike Cake
-2 Headstart 1 Cookie
-1 Adrenaline 1 Cookie

[broken crag]

i can kill palmer but after i run out of fighting zone i cant do enough dmg to sides and they kill me

[spice basin]

[uncut saffron]

all that

[rotund oasis]

oh i hit 344k as well lulz

[uncut saffron]

for 300 gems

[rotund oasis]

[gentle mural]

[rotund oasis]

well i'm done with it.... thank god.

[gentle mural]

I mean you can still use the rats for other UBs

It's a long term investment

[final yacht]

Lol

Lmao, even

So it's time to look at crit shield options, uh

[spiral summit]

You don’t need Fighting Zone that much

[crude marten]

what no endure does to an ub

[floral patio]

damn rare riley clear

[slow sky]

Eat shit palmer

[low coral]

Zerena stays winning?

[final yacht]

erf

[rotund oasis]

Wtf? How o.o

[uncut saffron]

Support cake
Restriction multiplier
AoE

[slow sky]

all out dps

lol

[uncut saffron]

It will still kill you

[final yacht]

eh

[valid raft]

Only SS Mina is relevant

[spice basin]

My team needed minimum +3 defenses, crit shield, damage guard, zone removal/replacement to tank the max move

[final yacht]

I don't think so

I'll try some stuff

just get lucky and roll Ghost Zone AND Crit Shield with SC Lillie

Anabel, SSAC, SC Diantha
Anabel for crit shield
SSAC for zone removal and potion
SC Diantha for nuke

SURELY that can work ||really not but ||

[crude marten]

@low coral did you try fire comp

[low coral]

I don't have NC Leaf at all

[crude marten]

oh

[valid raft]

Whomst debuffs?

[final yacht]

[crude marten]

would love to try but my chase isnt rolex

[uncut saffron]

I HAVE NCLeaf

But uhhhh

I am too tired for this shit

[crude marten]

[spice basin]

What's the intended fire comp?

[crude marten]

kinda want to try leaf wallace chase

[uncut saffron]

NC Leaf/SS Hilda/Chase ?

[spice basin]

[uncut saffron]

You could try NY wallace

I dont have him tho

[valid raft]

Yeah, NC Leaf/NY Wallce/Chase

[spice basin]

I can try that later

[crude marten]

problem is they really hard counter leaf debuff on early

chase can have mindgames but 4/5

[uncut saffron]

Eh

[crude marten]

[uncut saffron]

Just do it

[valid raft]

5/5

[crude marten]

even worse

[uncut saffron]

I have chase 4/5

He is fun

10/10 Best Boy

[crude marten]

time to

dont

[uncut saffron]

[valid raft]

He also gets Sync Burst at 5/5 means 3 total uses of Kanto Circle

[uncut saffron]

Imagine wasting candies for 300 gems

Couldnt be me

[broken crag]

yeah 10th try cant kill sides

fk this

[uncut saffron]

😭

Is your grid right?

Dont be me

[floral geode]

Not anymore, I replaced her with May

[dusk notch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[uncut saffron]

Have fucked up my time because my grid is wrong

[broken crag]

im using the standard grid from the doc

[spice basin]

There's a clear with her in the doc iirc

[uncut saffron]

No, but probably could with NC Hop

[valid raft]

Plenty have

[uncut saffron]

Wait
She's special righy?

[dusk notch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[uncut saffron]

Ok she can work with nc hop

[slow sky]

as a secondary dps yes

NC Hop is the main DPS

[uncut saffron]

Kip did you do it?

[slow sky]

yea

[valid raft]

Yes

[slow sky]

recorded it as well

[uncut saffron]

Damn, whaf unit

[slow sky]

NC Rosa, NC Hop and SC Diantha

[uncut saffron]

Oh wow

[slow sky]

SC Diantha aids in the debuffing ontop of secondary dps

but need to give her LS Head start 1

[dusk notch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[slow sky]

with NC Rosa having HS 1 as well

b/c only Rosa is the only sprint

I have to time the correct timing to knock Barry out for that turn denial

cant be too fast or slow

[spiral summit]

Who need quad-queue ?
Riley-Rei-NC Rosa is simple than i thought

[final yacht]

lmao ok even with crit shield + +6 def + reflect i still take 1.7k on cynthia

[slow sky]

☠️

Rei is like the unit built for that stage

ofc its easy with it lol

[humble gyro]

wow this thing one shotted me with the sync move

using SS Cynthia, NC Hop and Sirfetchd

[lunar sedge]

You have to presync pretty much lol

[broken crag]

are u suppose to use addrenaline 1 or hs 1 on rosa

[humble gyro]

my Rei is only 1/5

[lunar sedge]

I personally went with HS1 to even out the sync countdown at the start

You can try to quad with NC Rosa

It's pretty difficult tho

[low coral]

Geeta comp showing up

[lunar sedge]

she really should have either HS1 or adr1 on her grid to make my life easier 😩

[rotund oasis]

the hell? how? o_O

[uncut saffron]

Poison/Defense debuff

[rotund oasis]

Are they using Flying Bunny?

for Sync Accel? LOL

[uncut saffron]

Fighting bnnuy

[exotic dome]

Use tm on Gloria and use her max move to switch to fighting

[rotund oasis]

Ohhhh, that's actually believable o-o

[exotic dome]

My guess is that is possible even with ScSteven instead of Geeta