#Champion Stadium

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left storm
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Speed is great

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Defence is fantastic for rally

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Normal is good in gauntlet

karmic zephyr
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okay good to know

clear breach
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Just wait till he gets his SA Passive

left storm
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I'd said Rei is definitely higher up in the "basically MF" hierarchy

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Anyway, sadly no eri solo because since I don't plan, going round 3 was a self sabotage because of infinite steel zone

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I'll try to remember next time

karmic zephyr
gleaming jolt
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But some people argue about that in #poma-lounge ! VolknerDed

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They can counter everything you say about Rei!

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And that makes me sick!

paper summit
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word of advice, just don't take anything said in #poma-lounge seriously

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if you expect somewhat objective information on pairs or the game in general then help channels are where you go, not what is essentially a meme channel

left storm
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Word of advice,

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Silence lounge entirely

fading cradle
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are you sure about that

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oak nidorino being psychic weak does not help

bitter veldt
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I like how my first 15k in CSMM felt like the biggest achievement of tears and now I finish them within 30 minutes top and feel like it's taking a candy from a baby.

karmic zephyr
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Parameters also play a role. I assume the parameters on the video are for post sync, I prefer to use pre sync.

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And as a person who really struggled with that fight and tried many things. Lucian didn't help me. But I think it's all about the right parameters and comp

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Why don't you try with SC Irida?

gleaming jolt
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Try with SC Irida and NC Cheren together!

Aim to flinch the center to buy some time

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I bet together they are unstoppable

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Gauge will not be a issue with SC Irida

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I hope you remember it doing once before too

karmic zephyr
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Also, I wanted to comment on flinch. Because it was mentioned in my case too. There's that parameter that I've put, that makes enemies immune to flinch

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And also, since your oak is EX, sync with him first to get the double buff!

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I think buffing crit rate is important in this battle

fading cradle
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irida’s free move just isn’t happening

karmic zephyr
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Do you have any sprint available?

fading cradle
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all i have is alt elio with exr

karmic zephyr
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You could try using him as a support

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And do you have anyone that buffs crit?

fading cradle
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all i could find are melony and hop LanceShrug

karmic zephyr
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No no, these won't do.

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I think melony will even work against you on that stage

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And hop, you'll probably want him for Diantha

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It's okay, try Elio alt, SC Irida and oak and let's see what happens

fading cradle
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i’m using steven for diantha already 🤷‍♀️

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(arc suit steven)

sharp willow
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i don't see how Melony would work against you for Siebold's stage

karmic zephyr
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I was about to comment I did wrong on that 😂

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I was confused for a second and thought her skill buffed the opponent's special damage reduction. But that's not the case.

sharp willow
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realistically, even if it did have an effect on it, it wouldn't do anything since those are bypassed by crits to start

fading cradle
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ive done an off type clear with both irida and cheren in the same team though

karmic zephyr
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I don't have nc cheren so I have no clue. I'm just trying to help because I was struggling with that exact stage and found only SC Irida helpful.

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(from the pairs I own)

silver dirge
karmic zephyr
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did you check your parameters?

silver dirge
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Ah, it's Siebold

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NC Cheren will work better than SC Irida yes. He is quite bulky, maybe send your parameters for a quick review

karmic zephyr
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I just read NC Cheren's kit. He was probably suggested because of his master passive

silver dirge
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He's just the stronger damage dealer by a significant margin, makes for an easier time offtyping.

fading cradle
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they’re adjusted for having cheren and sc irida in the same team

silver dirge
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Parameters look fine - what's the team?

fading cradle
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i was about to test out sc irida, nc cheren, and alt elio

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just missing those last 50 points 🫠

silver dirge
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Oh dear bceStare2 the gauge will be near non existent in that team

karmic zephyr
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take the tech pairs take extra damage

silver dirge
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Is Lucian available?

fading cradle
fading cradle
sharp willow
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cheren hopefully will not be getting hit

silver dirge
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What's Cheren's move level?

karmic zephyr
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Yeah but since he's gonna die on sync and he will be targeted last, it won't matter that much

fading cradle
fading cradle
sharp willow
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Siebold's starmie doesn't have any AOE moves, while the sides have a split of one single target and one aoe move each

silver dirge
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Okay ditch Irida, try Lucian + NC Cheren + appropriate support

sharp willow
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you might need to reset for them to not do that, but it's probably the safest parameter you could take

silver dirge
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If there's a Unovan support available that will help a little

fading cradle
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alright, though another problem i’m having is just deciding who my support should be. my best ones are already on other teams

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+arc suit steven is on diantha’s team

sharp willow
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i would probably suggest Melony, since she has the ability to deny moves with Sing

silver dirge
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I would try Skyla with staggering, you also help the MP

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But Melony should work too, Lucian helps with gauge

sharp willow
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same concept, different benefits and downsides

silver dirge
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Sync with the support first, try and either adrenaline 1 or quadqueue so you can get the 2nd sync in before their's

fading cradle
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wait is sleep a status or interference

sharp willow
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status

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you'd need to replace no status for a different parameter but Melony makes taking "takes x3 damage" parameters easier since she can near guarantee that you won't be getting hit by AOEs early

fading cradle
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worst experience of my life (arguably) is finally over, thanks gang 🙏

silver dirge
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Nicely done!

fading cradle
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alright, r2 malva, i used this team in hard mode, not sure what to expect

silver dirge
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Should be good; Malva consistently aims to unimpress by having really low HP compared to her colleagues

fading cradle
left storm
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Grad healing

gleaming jolt
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I always wanted to use MC Solgaleo, but Lillie dropped before Ex stole the limelight!

But gladly I was able to use him and it rocked! JasmineRelax Perocchi

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Against Wikstrom I did a permanent Ground Zone which caused deadly Bulldozes!

-# Don't try this stunt with your team! RileyHaha

thorny wind
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Man invented his own CS lvl2

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But also similar mood as Ghost Weak Phoebe with boosted Physical Moves lol

vague solar
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Every defense/HP/damage reduction effect

karmic zephyr
vague solar
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Fr it’s busted, so fun tho especially with the permanent field thing

karmic zephyr
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Which teams did you use for the other stages? If I can see

vague solar
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Gimme a sec I’ll find them rq

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Kinda cheating cuz I got all the arc fairs but I was able to 3k all of them

karmic zephyr
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Nice!

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I guess SS Hilbert would help me but I was unlucky on his banner.

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Thankfully this week is over but bug weakness will come back sooner or later

hushed burrow
vague solar
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SS Hilbert rules I’m glad I pitied his last banner

left storm
grand trout
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Is it possible for aegi to stay in shield form until he syncs?

old orchid
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Yes, as long as you don't let it attack

calm marsh
grand trout
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Oh my question is like

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Will he change to sword form first or sth

calm marsh
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He need to use attack move to change to Sword form

hushed burrow
old orchid
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Yes, sleeping also works

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Or you can replicate the strat Pykuo suggested above

fading cradle
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maybe fighting wikstrom with riley r4 was a bad idea, save me

old orchid
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How so

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Riley has sync cds to deal with missing quad queue

fading cradle
calm marsh
fading cradle
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yeahhhh, i guess i was just getting really unlucky with crits, bc i just cleared him lol

fading cradle
vague solar
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What teams did you use?

fading cradle
brisk oriole
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EX Karen, nice.

keen jasper
silver dirge
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Alternatively we could just let people be happy that they've accomplished the max points clear for rewards. No benefit in bashing your head against a wall for nothing

hollow horizon
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diantha with uhhh however many points this is because i thought it would be funny

gleaming jolt
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4650

fading cradle
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melissa never cooks. i’m offtyping the hell outta drasna, i hate ice weak stages 😭

left storm
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Drasna and malva keep being jokes at least

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Wikstrom and Siebold are the real csmm Kalos champion fights

violet timber
karmic zephyr
karmic zephyr
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I will definitely replace Piers with Marnie though, as I don't think he will be enough

left storm
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What is that diantha team

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Lol

karmic zephyr
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Hahaha I just realised I put Brendan and Steven together 😂

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Well, hopefully I can make them work

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I have Anni Lillie too

warped jungle
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This good?

fading cradle
mellow linden
warped jungle
mellow linden
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Skyla is another accessible Speed buffer who can also buff the team’s Defense and provide Potions, to name just one of many options

warped jungle
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I was thinking the same but she ex so I was thinking of using her somewhere else 😅

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Coz she ain't syncing with lusa around

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These the supports I got.

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Marowak looks good?

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Can give spd. Sometimes.

mellow linden
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If you’re not using SS Morty elsewhere then he’d be a good pick. Can provide a lot of gauge support and +1 or more crit.

And if you have someone that sets Psychic Terrain (like Bianca) then you could run Morty in place of Red + Snorlax

mellow linden
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Then can try Kiawe if you have a Psychic Terrain setter, but if you don’t then Skyla or Lucian (if you have him) would be my recommendation for the 3rd

warped jungle
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Yeah I do have Lucian. And he's at 4/5 too. So maybe use that instead of SSLusamine??

nocturne pawn
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Use him for support

warped jungle
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Lucian is built too. The sync nuke build.

nocturne pawn
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His passives are very good for lussa

warped jungle
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So Lucian, lusamine, red?

nocturne pawn
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Yeah that can work

warped jungle
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What about steel? Any of these good? Idk how good Gloria is. Never used her. Mostly use solgaleo.

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Or should I off type steel weakness?

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Ssserena or SCirida maybe?

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Worst case scenario, I use poison stall.

left storm
warped jungle
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Yeah that's what I was leaning towards.

warped jungle
left storm
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Gloria need 4/5 to be great

warped jungle
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Okay so just bench her?

left storm
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She can still work 1/5

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But she's not better than solgaleo

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At that move levrl

warped jungle
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Okay

peak stirrup
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Is Siebold strong vs physical? My escavalier did 21k with Megahorn but it was only half. Or is he just stupid bulky?

left storm
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He's Phys resistant

peak stirrup
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Yikes. Will have to try my 1/5 volacrona then

left storm
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2x def

peak stirrup
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Did even worse. Have to offtype I guess

fading cradle
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an invested burgh can probably clear him with the right supports

thorny wind
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Okay this run is actually funny.

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One para proc from the side, one confusion proc from Siebold, and Barry dodged 3 moves in a row SophoKEK

true bloom
thorny wind
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Well he's my only choice for ontype SophoKEK

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Whiffed Hilbert gang 🫡

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Well technically Viola is Special but 1/5 lol

true bloom
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I just cleared it with Burgh because too lazy to brute forced it OshaCry

gleaming jolt
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It's off-type was easy too! SerenaSip

trail smelt
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I just let mah boi Guzma handle it as always

thorny wind
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It has been done. Kalos got hands

gleaming jolt
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That solo Wikstrom with Rei! RockPikachu

true bloom
left storm
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What move level is Rei?

thorny wind
left storm
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3/5?

thorny wind
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5/5

left storm
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Yeah I was saying

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No way 3/5 soloes

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Without insane RNG

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Aka flinching a ton with 30%

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Or 2 mprs

thorny wind
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I was fishing for one flinch and 1-2 MPR

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and then Eva dodge gaming

gleaming jolt
thorny wind
left storm
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Yeah, expected

true bloom
left storm
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3/5 could also do it but needs 2 mprs

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+1 flinch

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Because no dodge

thorny wind
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Also Flash Cannon oneshots him so that's a big no SophoKEK

left storm
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With zone yea

gleaming jolt
left storm
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Eri can also do that solo but I messed up and ended with wikstrom on R3 so infinite zone zzz

hollow horizon
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this is probably the farthest I can push this

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assuming i did my math right this should be 5150 on steel diantha

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the non-active parameters were sync cd -1, no stat reduction, five stats +3, special damage reduction, crit defense, and can't change wtz

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it was a really slow sunday

hoary ingot
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Having trouble with drasna and not doing enough dmg don’t know what to do for team

hoary ingot
toxic cobalt
hoary ingot
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the 4 star one?

toxic cobalt
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Any sleep pair really

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Is Sabrina gridded to provide speed?

hoary ingot
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oops

toxic cobalt
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That will help!

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Do ping me if you need

clear breach
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Ugh Ice weak

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My worst enemy

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WAIT

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maybe not

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I recently got 3/5 Hala 😈

fading cradle
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i’m off typing that shit, fuck ice weak stages

hushed burrow
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When is CS reset?

fading cradle
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this reset

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it resets every monday

toxic cobalt
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Lucian definitely helps

hushed burrow
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Do my types carry over if I can't beat the champion

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I hate siebold I can't even off thpe

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All my good off type are physical

old orchid
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Have you tried toxic stalling

hushed burrow
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No I will in a bit

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The only problem is I don't have pokey trap or potent toxin

old orchid
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That doesn't matter

mellow linden
karmic zephyr
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You only have like 2 hours left so just go for the strongest striker for now and forget the medal because you're gonna lose another week if you don't clear it! Hopefully you have more than 10 registered so next week you can do both hard and master mode.

toxic cobalt
wheat dragon
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hmm

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so siebold is kinda destroying guzma

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what going on here

thorny wind
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Sentry Entry x 2

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So physical units are a no go

wheat dragon
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welp

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i guess i hve to off type then

old orchid
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If you have 3/5 Burgh he is a solid choice

rapid osprey
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@fading cradle so remember how you hate kalos stadium

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i accidentally missed last week entirely bc of traveling and today's traveling took way longer than expected

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so unless i can clear in the next 40 minutes i think im also missing this week dfkhjfgkhjd

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time to scrape out my medal next week and shrug it off dfgjkhdfjgkh

fading cradle
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blame all your problems on kalos

rapid osprey
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real!

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its kalos' fault for being during such a busy month

hushed burrow
fading cradle
hushed burrow
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Oh I thought he was talking about ss leaf 🤦‍♂️

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Well rip

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One more week of MM

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I don't like siebold

fading cradle
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EWWWWW NOT HALF SYNC 😷😷😷😷😷

hushed burrow
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?

trail smelt
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Half synced Diantha just because I can lol

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Ready for next week

hushed burrow
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whats a half sync

trail smelt
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The round parameter for round 4 where both sides sync countdown is cut in half

fading cradle
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half sync sucks i hate it so much

trail smelt
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Yeah when you don’t have enough OP units it’s the worst one lol

true bloom
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Wikstorm was nightmare, had to offtype Drasna and Malva because my ice and rock roster Saks OshaCry

thorny wind
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Good job on the clears

true bloom
hushed burrow
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well im gonna suffer

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i dont like kalos cs 😭

true bloom
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Yeah this week is especially hard for me OshaCry

thorny wind
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Kalos got hands

keen jasper
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Half sync? Fuck yeah AAAElio WeezingLFG

clear breach
true bloom
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Buddy move wasn't even used BrendanWoah

gleaming jolt
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He just nailed it first sync without support sync! AshWow

clear breach
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Going to crash out I can’t beat Drasna MistyAnger

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She’s so annoying with her Aoe move spam

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Hmm I could do Post sync and off type with SS Lusamine and sync nuke

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Hala does fine but he’s so slow and I don’t have him ex’d

left storm
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Offtype sslusa PrycePain

clear breach
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Yes TabithaHehe

frosty pilot
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used this opportunity to test BP candice

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she isn’t great…

clear breach
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Anything I should change? I always get Wikstrom to around 20% HP after I sync and shadow force him, he syncs and then Cynthia dies so uhh yeah, should I change anything?

gleaming jolt
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Can try low attack high HP!

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That's what I do!

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Instead of 150 Atk3 and 50 Def you can choose 200 HP4

old orchid
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there are some options that should not be picked

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like def up and special dmg reduction

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Wikstrom's gimmick is erasing his stat buffs, so replacing Hop with a Hazer is a good idea

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it also allows you to pick Five stats on entry for free 100 pts, as you are supposed to haze them away on the first turn

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ally hp down on entry and ally healing down are also good options, allowing you to remove offensive ones

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since Cynthia's nuke is great, you can afford pick a few HP params, too

clear breach
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Special dmg reduction?

old orchid
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yes

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you don't want Shadow Ball to be nearly useless

clear breach
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Alrighty

clear breach
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still can’t beat him AcerolaPensive

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Round 4 is so annoying

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I might just reset and do Wikstrom in a different round

old orchid
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R4 fucks up quad queue so you can either aim for a post sync clear or bring someone to ramp

clear breach
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Ramp?

old orchid
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it means lowering sync cds

zealous karma
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Someone like sygna suit elesa has sync accel/ramp

loud stratus
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aww man only 1 CS with fire weak? i wanted to flex my new nc leaf

stoic pawn
fading cradle
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malva r4 is making me bang my head

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maybe i should try adding a sync accelerator too

loud stratus
stoic pawn
loud stratus
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nice ClayThumbsUp

clear breach
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Finally I beat this stupid week LarryDead

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15K TabithaHehe

fading cradle
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can this diantha be stalled? i’m kinda scared of fairy zone 💀

gleaming jolt
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She has a fairy zone? LarryDead

gleaming jolt
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Woah!!

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If so then you solo it with losing 150 points in WTZ! ptcgpSweat

fading cradle
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i managed to 3k stall her though so consider it done LanceShrug (we need to destroy siebold like right now)

swift swan
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Updated! Was very busy today

main crow
teal pike
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rock weak malva is fucking impossible methinks

clear breach
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You could always off type it CalemRelieved

teal pike
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oh ive been trying

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and ive tried with different round parameters as well

teal pike
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anyone have any ideas?

mellow linden
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Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

teal pike
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mm

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2000 param

mellow linden
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Can try SS Kris/Cyrus/3rd for off-typing

teal pike
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yeah true

mellow linden
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Or Mix Leaf instead of Cyrus, actually

stoic pawn
mellow linden
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Technically she could if you can afford to delay the Max Move, but I assume that’s not the case

old orchid
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Wait nvm

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💀

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I got your point

stoic pawn
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Thank you.
I forgot her passive skill.

teal pike
mellow linden
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Congrats!

hushed burrow
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I need help with kalos cs i can't do it

clear breach
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Which stage

hushed burrow
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all of them SerenaSip

old orchid
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let's start with showing your roster

hushed burrow
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i will have to send it later, i cant play rn

hushed burrow
swift swan
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+tracker please use the tracker next time so you don't have to take multiple screenshots

frozen depotBOT
swift swan
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also, is this for hard mode?

hushed burrow
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how to send the link with all my pairs tho

hushed burrow
gleaming jolt
swift swan
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Hard mode should be easy enough. Start by picking 5 of your best damage dealers. it doesn't have to be ontype

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Assign one to each E4 then build your team around them. Some of the E4 members have gimmicks that you might need to handle so you have an easier time. You can check those on pomatools

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+pomatools

frozen depotBOT
hushed burrow
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can u help me find another 2?

gleaming jolt
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MC Solgaleo right there

swift swan
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Dont underestimate legendary adventures units. Solgaleo, Giovanni, cyrus should be able to perform well in hard mode. Even ss red can work well with a sun setter

hushed burrow
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Hmm alr i will try

hushed burrow
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Ss red is 1/5

old orchid
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their PB don't matter, especially for Cyrus' Hydro Pump build

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but Red needs heavy support

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unless it's hard mode for you

hushed burrow
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It is hard mode

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Seems like I gotta off type all of them

old orchid
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no you don't

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have to

hushed burrow
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Which one can I on type

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Iirc I don't have good Dmg dealers for any

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Except maybe electric weak siebold

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Wikstrom maybe shauntal can

old orchid
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Ghetsis for Drasna

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poison stall Diantha

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and you only have to find a way to offtype Malva

hushed burrow
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Alr i will try

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Btw for the round para is there any order i should go in

old orchid
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the pins warned you about which stages should be avoided in each round

hushed burrow
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Ok lemme see

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So aside from wikstrom and siebold on r3 doesn't matter much

fading cradle
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you also wanna be very careful with who you fight r4

hushed burrow
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Anyone I should avoid?

fading cradle
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i mean it doesn’t matter much, just be careful with who you choose to fight r4

mellow linden
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Basically, make sure your team can handle the opponent getting their 1st Sync in half the time on round 4

swift swan
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This usually means buffing defenses and/or debuffing their offenses. Make sure you have enough sustain

dusky quartz
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How do I beat champion stadium with f2p units? I feel like I don’t do damage

mellow linden
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Make sure your teams have good synergy and that you’re dealing with the respective stage gimmicks

dusky quartz
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Is there a guide In this discord?

mellow linden
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There’s info on the stage gimmicks via the pomatools link in the pinned messages here, and we have some teambuilding guidelines via our Teambuilding 101 in #1010307000346878062 (or by going to #bot-zone and using the +101 command over there)

toxic cobalt
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Might serve as examples of team building nonetheless

thorny wind
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Finally got time to do CS this week

thorny wind
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Scottie appearance MonkaScottie

gleaming jolt
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Red dominating the field! TabithaHehe

thorny wind
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As he should TabithaHehe

fading cradle
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what the scottie

gleaming jolt
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Flinch bot I guess?

thorny wind
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Initially I was planning him + Emmet

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But Sentry is too much for him so I replaced him with Diantha

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I kind of just kept him to remove the sun, but also realized midway he can reduce Spd for Diantha's Cakewalk

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So it worked out lol

true bloom
thorny wind
gleaming jolt
true bloom
thorny wind
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That's true

gleaming jolt
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Here is my basic clear! LazyRachel

thorny wind
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I see you with that turbo sync CD

hushed burrow
fading cradle
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kill siebold

vague solar
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Does Malva have a defense buff or something? Gordie is doing way less than he should

vague solar
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Oh lame, gotta off type now

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Actually before I do

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Any way I can make this work 3k?

vague solar
dusky quartz
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Why don’t my moves do damage in champion stadium when my sync pairs are level 140?

dusky quartz
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Hard mode

fading cradle
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some stages have gimmicks that make them more tanky (example: rock weak malva this week has sentry entry 2x so it’s better to bring a special attacker)

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you might also want to review your teams and ensure they have good synergy together

dusky quartz
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I don’t have many pairs so I’m trying to win with free units

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I thought the legendaries would be strong. So I farmed them but even they pop

fading cradle
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the rounds you fight the elite four are also something you kind of have to pay attention to. sometimes it doesn’t matter but other times, there’s a certain stage you want to avoid for certain rounds. who are you trying to fight and what round?

fading cradle
dusky quartz
dusky quartz
fading cradle
# dusky quartz

well first off you’re not replacing the sunny weather. malva gets a huge boost under the sun

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what does your roster look like? i’m not really good at helping people build teams but maybe a helper can come by later and take a look

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(+ you don’t have to run a full monotype team at all)

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roxanne is kind of redundant there because she doesn’t raise physical attack for roark (assuming he’s your damage dealer)

dusky quartz
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Is there a roster making app? The screenshot I sent of my units is not posting

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Thank you for helping me by the way. This is my roster.

frozen depotBOT
fading cradle
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be sure to include investments like move levels and ex too

dusky quartz
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Thank you

mellow linden
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+101

frozen depotBOT
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> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a StrikeS / StrikeP striker or a Tech tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support Support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

mellow linden
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Those guidelines should help you understand the whys and hows of teambuilding and what makes a team with good synergy

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And don’t be afraid to off-type if your supereffective damage-dealers are struggling hard

sick inlet
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I love how everytime I see this command it's further updated Quilava_licks

hushed burrow
toxic cobalt
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Wilkstrom could you chill please with the attack strength

fading cradle
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why is wikstrom like this

sharp willow
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Theres a reason why I call ghost weak wikstrom the worst CS stage of them all

zealous karma
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He one shot my Morty pretty convincingly

dim depot
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Yeah, I was gonna say. This particular Wikstrom battle is probably the hardest CS battle in the game.

nocturne pawn
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yeah

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stance change gimmick both defensive multipliers and tm buffs a lot

dim depot
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It gave me a hard time last time it came up. And here I am much stronger and I still struggle

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Rising Tide is cracked. Any stat up, deal insane damage

nocturne pawn
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he also starts in shield form effectively resulting in 2x sentry and wise entry until he attacks

dim depot
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Here I am, 3/5 EXR SSR Cynthia, and still can't win lol. Well, I got close but I fumbled it. Definitely not pre-syncing this, and it's RNG if I survive sync

fading cradle
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i actually cheesed both ghost weak wikstroms this month easily with a 1/5 ex exr sc irida, but seeing others describe him makes him sound really hard 😭

nocturne pawn
dim depot
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Niche params I guess

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Oh yeah, I have sync countdown -2. Normally that's manageable. Clearly not here though

swift swan
dim depot
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Even with normal sync countdown and no power on hit 1, sync hits just as hard as with those two on

dim depot
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Defeated. SC Steven remains consistent. Still had to frame-perfect queue a Shadow Force to win though

dim depot
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Malva seems difficult too. They want you to do special rock damage, but that's only Classic Blue?

old orchid
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Alt Selene would be the best choice

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Malva only has 17k HP so you can still brute force through her with physical Rock type dmg dealers

dim depot
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This Sentry Entry the hint warns about, that's just a stat up? Isn't there one where they just passively receive less damage from that type?

old orchid
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Sentry Entry 2 and Sentry Entry x2 are too different passives

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SE2 is just +2 Def on entry

dim depot
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Legit just learning this now. Why do they seem so similar then?

old orchid
hushed burrow
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nvm

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im dumb

thorny wind
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Sometimes the name gets confusing

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Especially with Blue who has the most alts lol

vague solar
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This week is mad hard

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Still have drasna and siebold left for the last two params

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And my best physical electric is base elesa 😭

mellow linden
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Siebold doesn’t demand physical or special

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But even then depending on Move Level Elesa can be plenty

vague solar
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He doesn’t but it’s on the physical parameter round

mellow linden
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You aren’t required to use that parameter

vague solar
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And my special options aren’t strong enough to wipe him

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Tho actually wait I have SS Hilbert

mellow linden
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Could definitely use him + a special Electric Sync nuker

vague solar
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I’m complaining for nothing my b lol

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Kinda strapped on options for nuking

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Hau could work I guess

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Or Surge if I build him rq

mellow linden
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Hau should do fine as long as your Support can handle status and move gauge

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Worst case scenario you can always try just running SS Hilbert under Electric Terrain, you may be able to get away with no on-type Sync

vague solar
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Finally 😭

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Not sure if this was a skill issue or if Kalos is just hard lol

fading cradle
vague solar
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15k finally

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Siebold sucks but other than that it went fine

clear breach
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Eve gaming

vague solar
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Found the drasna counter

hushed burrow
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Damn

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It's a cake walk

true bloom
gleaming jolt
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Evasion tanking!

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And that sync did a lot of damage I guess! LeonWow

true bloom
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That's very creative but I wouldn't have the heart/patience to keep repeating for evasion 😭

vague solar
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Zero chance at 3k

lean lion
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I wouldn't be so sure. @sick inlet what do you think? 3k possible?

hushed burrow
supple reef
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it is max evasion + get lucky

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there is no strat, only gambling

bitter veldt
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Max evasion being only 50%

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I would NOT

swift swan
supple reef
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Eve also gets Ridicure on grid, which against low offensive pressure is probably enough to sustain

swift swan
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So no, even if she dodges all the moves, I'm not confident she can take a sync

vague solar
hushed burrow
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did u spam double team?

vague solar
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This worked for Drasna on the debuff round, haven’t tried anyone else.
Use TM 3 times with mpr for max stats, use swift 3 times for debuffs, then use double team to max evasion. With max investment (level 150, 20/20 PUs, etc) you can live a good amount of hits.

Sync one of the sides first to KO since cakewalk isn’t active yet, then spam swift until you can sync center for the kill

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There’s a lot of dodge luck after Drasna syncs and especially for her toxic/poison moves but given who you’re working with its not too bad

hushed burrow
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alr

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thanks

vague solar
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O yeah healthy healing for the lucky skill

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Super clutch

hushed burrow
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hmm

vague solar
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Trust

hushed burrow
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20/20 5* PU?

vague solar
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Yea

hushed burrow
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ok yea

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too much investment for me :p

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i will just stick to ghetsis

vague solar
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Lol that’s fair

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Promise you ghetsis is easier if you just want to clear it 💀

sick inlet
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And how many sync are you tanking?

lean lion
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Yeah nov also mentioned you can't tank sync

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Guess it's rip

vague solar
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You can tank 1 sync tbf

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Assuming you don’t stack attack multipliers too much

clear breach
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All max hp params, wanted to test out Irida since i basically yolo’d her

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Also wanted to use Shiny Glaceon egg on

robust barn
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Did some last minute CS, some points:
• Drasna was a pain this week!! Praise the rng gods, her Endure kept making me loose close to the finishing line, then those 1 hit EQs!! sweatDreigon
• Diantha unexpectedly kept reflecting stat drops on my Poison stall team cubone_cry

clear breach
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This week should be easy enough

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But we are talking about Kalos here… WEEZing

fading cradle
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fuck

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why did a grass weak and a fire weak stage have to collide ☠️ (might switch leaf and falkner hmmmm)

brisk oriole
fading cradle
brisk oriole
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If only he have Support Exr.

clear breach
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Here’s my teams, they’ll probably change though specifically the Wikstrom team cus I just wanna test out Lucas’s solar immunity passive

hushed burrow
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i dont like kalos cs

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and cuz of how hard it is

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i keep delaying it

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i forgot it yet again this week

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:p

fading cradle
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last week of kalos stadium thankfully

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but i really

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really

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hate this stadium

thorny wind
fading cradle
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EWWWWWW THERES HALF SYNC

sick inlet
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Best in the worlddddd

brisk oriole
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Half sync and permanent field effect.
Most hate/loved and most loved.

left storm
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Oh right forgot to post last week's

First time in months I went back to 3v3 f2p clears and god it's too easy to have 3 units WEEZing

clear breach
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A little difficult but the easiest Kalos stadium so far WEEZing

hushed burrow
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how does bro pull off runs i cant even imagine

toxic cobalt
left storm
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For some of these quad and ex aren't even needed

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Nemona, melony, koga, event Gio, Sabrina, volkner can be all exless

Volkner and melony even work just 1/5

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And for Vs Diantha, drasna and malva quad queue isn't needed

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As stage either dies to poison, sleep/flinch patches non queueing or in Malva's case, stage dies before you need to sync twice

swift swan
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updated! i keep forgetting today's a monday

calm marsh
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Also ty @old orchid for ruining one of my screen shot

old orchid
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My pleasure

gleaming jolt
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Wtz everywhere!

true bloom
gleaming jolt
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Omg triple support everywhere

true bloom
gleaming jolt
clear breach
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And thanks to his Team Solar Immunity the enemy wasn’t able to flinch Morty

fading cradle
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i don’t wanna do this stadium only bc of half sync

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save me

true bloom
true bloom
true bloom
gleaming jolt
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I will most probably break my finger trying to do that!

fading cradle
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my siebold team REALLY needs ss morty but i already have him in my fire team, idk who to replace him with VolknerDed

gleaming jolt
brisk oriole
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Happy eevee month ( do ignore Wikstrom's stage without eevee)

thorny wind
vague solar
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That diantha team is kinda crazy actually is that 3k?

brisk oriole
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Eve helped by giving me 2 dodges from Diantha's attacks.

vague solar
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Eve is mad underrated she’s so fun

brisk oriole
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Can agree.
I would have better time if I get ridicure on her during that cs.

left storm
nocturne pawn
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was it really nothing

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lg chat always whines about eve when they get the chance lol

left storm
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I mean she could've done much more if she had ex

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Also I don't follow LG chat because

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LG

nocturne pawn
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if she had ex that wouldnt exactly solve the issue of needing to dodge like almost every attack

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if she had something like guard entry 2 as an ls it’d probably make it simpler

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since you’d actually have leeway

left storm
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It also would make investing in 20/20 less of a meme choice

vague solar
fading cradle
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yall think i can switch around my supports a bit? (ignore drasna team, i already cleared her) definitely moving morty to the siebold team

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but then again i was thinking of doing wikstrom r3 where the half sync is so 🧍‍♀️

sage otter
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Help, I'm trying to beat Siebold with a neutral DPS, how do I use 3000 points?

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These are my plant mons, and this is the unit I'll be using

trail smelt
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Geez forgot to do immediately

sage otter
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If you have any ideas please ping me. Thanks 🤓

mellow linden
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For 3k parameters you’d generally pick a 2.5k preset to act as a base and then add/adjust as necessary based on your needs and preferences

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There’s no “one-size-fits-all” option, you just need to experiment a bit

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Also if you’re gonna off-type with NC Marnie then don’t try and shoehorn a Grass damage-dealer into it, instead build a team fully around NC Marnie

sage otter
mellow linden
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A good tank, namely

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If they can also help the move gauge and/or provide other useful utility then even better

sage otter
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What does presync and postsync mean?

clear breach
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I think

mellow linden
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  • Pre-Sync: You need to KO before the opponent Syncs.
  • Post-Sync: You don’t care whether the opponent Syncs.
sage otter
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thanks

trail smelt
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Half synced Diantha instead of permanent field effects

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Why?

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Because I can baby lol

sage otter
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Very sad anime moment (My Silver isn't EX)

fading cradle
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oof 500 points off

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but it’s good progress!

fading cradle
clear breach
stoic pawn
unique sand
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A good day for Lyra

left storm
gleaming jolt
true bloom
gleaming jolt
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Hehe yes!

nocturne pawn
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i have trauma from siebold so i killed him with erika and adaman

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also holy fuck erika did like 25k with solar blade shes terrifying

gleaming jolt
true bloom
true bloom
nocturne pawn
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but i only think he got to leaf blade like once

true bloom
# nocturne pawn by a lot

Whoaaa she's better than I thought PoryWoke
I should try using her one day in grass weak CS (usually I just offtype because I don't have limited grass) OshaCry

nocturne pawn
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especially considering when she released

toxic cobalt
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You can also use Brendan

nocturne pawn
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cuz she was with kanto va

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which was fairly early on

nocturne pawn
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also leaf storm is special which makes it more annoying

left storm
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I wanted to reply with it to that

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Guess I know what I'm annihilating this week's grass weak stage with

true bloom
nocturne pawn
true bloom
nocturne pawn
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also i hate ss acerola so much she has negative special bulk

mellow linden
# true bloom Is that higher than Adaman leaf blade?

You’ll find that a lot of Grass damage-dealers can output more than Adaman’s Leaf Blade; Adaman’s biggest flaw is somewhat lackluster regular move damage output since so much of his damage’s power budget was put into his Sync nuke

nocturne pawn
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yeah even with the built in charging sun 5 its still mediocre

cinder summitBOT
true bloom
left storm
nocturne pawn
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oh totally

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its solar beam but even more ridiculous

cinder summitBOT
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<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_GRASS:967452395804192788> Solar Blade

Gauge: 3 | Power: 200 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
The user gets ready to attack. Using this move again will cause the user to leave this posture, then attack. No other actions can be taken while ready to attack. The preparation period is skipped when the weather is sunny, and the user will attack right away.

Sync Pairs with Move:

10008100000 Sygna Suit Erika & Leafeon

nocturne pawn
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200bp

left storm
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The moment they give solar blade to a unit with half decent atk and a multiplier

nocturne pawn
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on 3 gauge

left storm
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Grass can start doing better

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If adaman had solar blade he'd be used much more

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Instead of 90 BP shitty aaaah move

nocturne pawn
left storm
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For grass types yea

nocturne pawn
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it really depends on what grass arc does

left storm
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Sadly grass still fares badly as a type because he's held back by his DPS

nocturne pawn
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if it wants to improve

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cuz imo the bigger issue is having poor wtz compression

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acerola has it but cant tank for shit without mix red

left storm
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Like fall Iono etc

nocturne pawn
left storm
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I mean

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He's getting replaced only if the arc is a nuker

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But he still loses value

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No matter what

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...unless ig grass arc is purely DPS oriented so you don't make it sync

nocturne pawn
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yeah i mean im not that concerned about losing value but whether he gets flat out replaced

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cuz imo the main flaw is with the wtz setting atm

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cuz most grass want sun and terrain but its hard to have both

left storm
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I don't think he will be replaced, but he definitely won't push grass to huge heights even with a grass arc supoort

nocturne pawn
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its either you get forced into running mix red + acerola or you run some other comp with ss morty

left storm
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Even if the aforementioned arc has sun + grass

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Adaman is still not close to high tier

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Because of his low DPS

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Ofc he will gain more achievements

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But for no merit of his own, unless the arc has a ton of gterrain but 0 sun

hexed jasper
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can u guys help me with the current champion stadium

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here's the list of sync pairs that i have

mellow linden
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Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

hexed jasper
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hard

mellow linden
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Can build a team around:

  • Cyrus for Malva (make sure to go get and 5/5 20/20 your Cyrus from Legendary Adventures).
  • SS Erika for Siebold.
  • Off-type with Rei or Lillie + Solgaleo for Drasna (alternatively if you can get Valerie + Mawile from the BP exchange she’d be good).
  • SS Red for Wikstrom.
  • Arc Cynthia for Diantha.

And probably be fine. Make sure to check the stage gimmicks via the pomatools link in the pins, follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines, and try to include 9-12 different types (the type of the Sync Move) across your 5 teams if this is your 1st time doing CS (if you have a lot of types on the type medal already then try and finish it off this week)

hexed jasper
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ok ty

hushed burrow
hushed burrow
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Sorry I accidentally clicked ur name so it pinged u tony

gleaming jolt
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It's fine!

zealous karma
vague solar
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I’m so proud of this clear on Drasna

thorny wind
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I was trying solo Gio against Diantha

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Too much #gaugeissue

thorny wind
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So real

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Also TIL, the stat drop from fainted units do not get reflected by Magearna

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I thought I was cooking with this param SophoKEK

undone ether
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rip o.o

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what is that supposed to be full atk param?

thorny wind
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Yes

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But the -3 stat from the point param does get reflected

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So at least there's that lol

fading cradle
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need siebold to die so bad oh my god fuck siebold kill siebold i hate siebold so much

fading cradle
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AND FUCK YOU SIEBOLD 🔪

brisk oriole
fading cradle
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next cs is unova LETS GO. LETS FUCKING GO. IM SICK OF KALOS’S SHIT

sick inlet
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Back to easy mode TabithaHehe

true bloom
vague solar
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I CAN USE FUN TEAMS AGAIN

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So tired of having to press the arc button for half the stadiums

queen wedge
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Wooo firsr 15k

sick inlet
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Was nice knowing you Kalos, You can rest now RoarkNerd

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Why didn't I do Siebold with Red SophoKEK

thorny wind
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Ye you should have SophoKEK

sick inlet
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Ahh I know why

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Cause round 1 was like physical attacks are stronger

thorny wind
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I used Mix Red because my Adaman is 1/5 (was waiting datamine before I 3/5)

sick inlet
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Red can still clear

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But that Sync Nuke was so tasty

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On Adaman

thorny wind
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Yep he did. He's the one I used

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Meanwhile I went R2 with Gladion

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My cooking was bland

sick inlet
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What happened here SophoKEK

thorny wind
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Stat debuff when ally faints. I expected Gladion to reflect that to Drasna

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It did not happen SophoKEK

sick inlet
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He deflects the parameter power down though

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I believe?

thorny wind
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He did

sick inlet
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Ye

thorny wind
sick inlet
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I put it on anyways because he has basically mirror armor or clear armor so free 100 pts

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Even if he didn't reflect as long as he doesn't get debuffed

thorny wind
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Yep true

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This ended up being my clear. The MCs are carrying SophoKEK

gleaming jolt
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Both of you cooked this CSMM!

nocturne pawn
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igglybuff for moral support is so funny

thorny wind
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Also I like that rowlet emoji

gleaming jolt
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Credits to @true bloom
It's from his server

thorny wind
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Good stuff. And it's shiny too!

thorny wind
nocturne pawn
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yeah his gauge is quite atrocious

thorny wind
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In my one run Gio failed because he's at -2 Spd and he barely missed the queue

sick inlet
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Is your Giovanni 5/5

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I never use mine because 1/5 SophoKEK

thorny wind
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Yes, from the triple fair banner last May

true bloom
sharp willow
thorny wind
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Also got this concerning hall of fame

true bloom
true bloom
gleaming jolt
thorny wind
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Rather Blue and Leaf abandoned Red

fading cradle
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blue kicked him out the gang

gleaming jolt
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Siebold stopped Red from reaching the Hall of Fame screen!

fading cradle
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siebold… SieboldMenacing

gleaming jolt
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Siebold is literally salt to Melissa

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Not in a Chefs sense

fading cradle
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i HATE siebold

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we should all just destroy siebold

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FUCK siebold

hushed burrow
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All of us?

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Bit much don't you think

sick inlet
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I hate no one more than Sidney from Hoenn. Everyone else is not a big problem MalvaReckless

gleaming jolt
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You mean you can't solo or grind a lot to solo him! HilbertHmm
What's his type weakness?

manic mica
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can anyone help me

void lantern
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I used Sycamore, Ghetsis and Lillie against Drasna on my 3rd battle and also had Malva as my last with SS Blue, Cyrus and May.

So pretty similiar

manic mica
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are there replacements for lillie and may?

void lantern
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I'd switch Lillie with Leonora (because all she did for me was debuffing and tanking)

and for may, anything that removes or changes the weather. Acerola isn't the best option but at least you get rid of the sun

manic mica
#

is it true that you should never target the middle opponent in CL?

void lantern
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I used Ghetsis btw just to para and drop stats, sycamore should be able to handle them

manic mica
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sycamore as dps?

void lantern
manic mica
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i see, thanks!!

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ill try this

void lantern
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good luck! let me know if it worked ...or if it at least looked promising

manic mica
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literally did nothing

manic mica
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i cant do malva tho

void lantern
manic mica
#

I FUCKING DID IT

true bloom
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There's either rock or ice every week HilbertHmm

true bloom
onyx ice
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Turn 1 ko (before the opponent could even act) is always funny

sick inlet
gleaming jolt
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You offtype solo it! ReiDearArceus

sick inlet
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I use Arc Steven now
He basically solos any stage that I can't ontype SophoKEK

gleaming jolt
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Must be 3/5 or above right?

hushed burrow
#

Also do NC cs have any special rewards

gleaming jolt
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Don't stress it, everything will work around!

gleaming jolt
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I will try to offtype it!

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What's the weakness?

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Rock!

true bloom
true bloom
gleaming jolt
true bloom
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Yuppers it's steel shinxhappy

thorny wind
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I've always offtyped Pasio Stadium lol

true bloom
thorny wind
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No I do not have enough units SophoKEK

keen jasper
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I've on-typed all of the steel special CS

gleaming jolt
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Oh I found it! HilbertHmm
I forget everything

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But I still don't remember if that was the first special stadium or not?

true bloom
sick inlet
gleaming jolt
sharp willow
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Theres also only 3 champion stages in unova at all

true bloom
graceful axle
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the mastermode presets are always specced against physical? why? 😂 i assume you switch it out to special if you wanna attack with physical?

vague solar
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Yep. they’re just like that to declutter the picture

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Except for the first two 50 point damage reduction ones, use both of those. So long as you can max your crit, you ignore the damage reduction from that

graceful axle
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awesome, good stuff
i was thinking of trying to get the 3000 option but i don't have enough ex units to do so, so starting to grind this stuff at 2500

vague solar
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2500 is a good benchmark, you get everything important plus most of the bonus stuff

graceful axle
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right right. i'll just start grinding stuff up to speed. let's say i've been very lazy towards stadium. same with villa, haven't ran that in forever and i'm certain i can almost one shot some of those (unless they made them stronger since release) but if i want cookies, there are the grind stages now 😂
eitherway, being lazy doesn't help with grinding this 😂

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so i'll prolly pop in here a few times to see what kind of teams and what not are solid options, if i can't figure it out

vague solar
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Oh uh, just a warning

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They killed villa

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It’s a 1 time thing now

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Battle rally replaced it for a weekly endurance mode

graceful axle
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oh yeah, i did that rally once and i was like, eh? that's it. didn't strike me as special or appealing?

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i mean the rewards are okay, i suppose

clear breach
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Yeah Battle Rally is mainly there to get the cake coins

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What

gleaming jolt
left storm
hushed burrow
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but no farmable cookies

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without stamina

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:(

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i would much rather spend my stamina on events

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but given the eevee daily rewards

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might be the best time to farm them

gleaming jolt
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Once you have enough supply of those things then maybe turn to Lucky Cookies, also the rates are bad for 5* cookies!
I think there are other better options for farming cookies!

graceful axle
fading cradle
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i HATE siebold so much

hot fern
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i'm too hype for his grid expansion so i used him this week, full hp params

true bloom
gleaming jolt
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Legendary Gauntlet!

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Maybe a little bit from doing Battle Villa or Legendary Arena again and again after resetting!
Iirc I did that in my initial days but it is soooo boring I do not recommend it!

hushed burrow
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None two months ina row

hushed burrow
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I didn't knwo that gave cookies

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And villa is only limited :(

hushed burrow
gleaming jolt
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Wait I might be wrong!

gleaming jolt
gleaming jolt
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It's better to just acquire a good amount of Codex and Bottles then move to Cookies with stamina while waiting for Legendary Gauntlet!

hushed burrow
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I mean I don't think im gonna be levelling to 140 anytime soon but lemme see how many level up materials I have

gleaming jolt
hushed burrow
gleaming jolt
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No not LA

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It was my mistake

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LA don't give any cookies

hushed burrow
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Ah ok

hushed burrow
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Also events give a good amount of these no?

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Like 50 of these for 50 points

weak sleet
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For the special champion stadium coming, is silver enough to beat blue? Who is blue designed for.

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Please ping

gleaming jolt
# hushed burrow This enough?

Bottles are really good numbers!
About codexes I am not sure tbh! Because you said you didn't updated most of your pairs to 140!
You can figure it out yourself by updating some of your ace pairs to 140 gradually!
If you feel lacking Cookies more than these codexes, then go for it!

clear breach
hot fern
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ya

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well not just hp

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it was 3k points so i took some other stuff

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ill send all my params in a sec

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I could've taken SDR8 but simply forgot to lol

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also depends on what kind of showcase you wanna do, stuff like all attack/offense would be better if you’re trying to show the speed in which they clear instead

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or for a support, how well they can tank hyper offense

sick inlet
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What pair enters the battle already buffed and can hit aoe?

left storm
true bloom
left storm
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Wanted to try 1/5 calem, feels pretty mediocre even with penny carrying him, probably because moonblast as best DPS sucks without big multipliers even Vs -6 spdef

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The dahlia solo is hilarious because their sun boosts her sync anyway so half sync is really free with it

hushed burrow
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Are these DD good enough for CS hard mode