Champion Stadium

[rapid osprey]

ok im thinking victor exr ssr cyn dana for seun on cyn sync just in case

[sharp willow]

it's the critical shield effect, and defog will remove it, yes

[rapid osprey]

noted for the future!

also yeah cyn nukes both sides and takes will to 4% with +6 atk

max phantasm to clean up

so might add a touch of heat and go above 10k

mk. koga r2, ghetsis for glaciate vs sygna hilbert for ice rebuff

[idle warren]

Took some effort but I beat him

Should I be able to beat karen with any of these? (Ignore team)

[clear breach]

Hmmm……

[karmic zephyr]

You can always off type

[idle warren]

yeah im just not sure who i have that's strong enough to off type

saving lillie for champion

[karmic zephyr]

Which strikers do you have?

[idle warren]

err

lemme just send a picture

[karmic zephyr]

Did you use your arc pairs?

[idle warren]

i used cynthia

id like to save steven for champion too if possible

[karmic zephyr]

Is Karen the only one you have left from the E4?

[idle warren]

yeah

this is r4

[karmic zephyr]

Okay

So what about Giacomo?

He's very strong

[idle warren]

i thought about him

i tried him earlier and he was kinda hard to use but i could try again

i only gave him about 2 attempts

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah I'd try him again. I actually find him very strong.

[idle warren]

alr ill give him a shot

[karmic zephyr]

And that bug guy. What's his name again. I think he's also strong. With heracross

[idle warren]

costume barry?

[rapid osprey]

alr. we now return to karen

who we will be arc-ing

bc absolutely not lmao

[karmic zephyr]

Yup, that's him

[rapid osprey]

cant wait til i get a rock unit i enjoy using

[karmic zephyr]

I have to admit that some pairs of some types are really lacking. Like, I don't think there's any f2p rock or bug pair

[rapid osprey]

i mean

olivia used to be the meta

so i dont blame them for hard pivoting and rock now being in a slump

but i maintain that ice and rock are basically 'do you have The Meta Unit? no? good luck'

and bug is... well

its bug

so

lmao

[karmic zephyr]

Ice is also lacking! True!

[rapid osprey]

ice has irida and nc red and then...

god i wish i had either

[karmic zephyr]

Haha. I have SS Silver but still haven't used him. He's not a striker but I think he can be decent

[clear breach]

Olivia could’ve worked for them but I don’t think she’ll do much as a non EX 2/5 Olivia

[rapid osprey]

olivia being the meta was 2019/at the start of the game

hence 'used to be'

nowhere did i say you should invest in her now lmao

[bitter veldt]

she's good but i'm so mad i wasted 5star cards on olivia and bp valerie.

[rapid osprey]

bp valerie is 100% worth

[idle warren]

yeah i dont think i can beat her with giacomo or costume barry

[rapid osprey]

vinny are you doing csmm or just medal

[bitter veldt]

prob 3k

[idle warren]

csmm

no im doing 2.5k

[bitter veldt]

because there's no way giacomo struggles in normal mode.

[idle warren]

technically 2650

[rapid osprey]

for csmm, you're going to need either ex or higher than 125

[supple reef]

is sleepchaining on the table?

[idle warren]

i have two ex supports left

not counting steven

[bitter veldt]

sleepchaining is some skill i have yet to learn.......... but never needed it (maybe should in gauntlet more)

[rapid osprey]

bc blue/aero should be solid otherwise

[idle warren]

i can try that ig

do i spam hyper beam or

[bitter veldt]

ex sup and giacomo is having trouble?

[idle warren]

yeah

maybe karen has a ton of health or smth idk

[rapid osprey]

i think you're approaching this the wrong way tbh

[idle warren]

i waited till he was at ~6 SMUN before using his b move

and i did use the ex sync move first

[rapid osprey]

you dont need to jump into 2650 if you dont have the roster breadth and investment to clear it

[bitter veldt]

i think its def possible w giacomo. but i do have giacomo EXED and caked.......

[idle warren]

ive cleared hoenn csmm before though

[rapid osprey]

better to clear 9k, which is where the champion spirits are, and use those to boost your roster

[idle warren]

its only 2650 cuz of cant change wtz, otherwise its standard 2.5k

[bitter veldt]

let me try with giacomo actually. my roster didn't need him for this week but

[idle warren]

i might lower it, id just like to see if i could beat it without doing so

[rapid osprey]

and if you're just throwing your head against it and making no progress, its better to clear at all than not ykno?

like, giacomo really shouldnt have an issue

[idle warren]

thats fair

really?

[rapid osprey]

im doing 2200s this cycle

[idle warren]

let me send my params

[bitter veldt]

i find it hard to believe giacomo has issues... so im trying him right now

[rapid osprey]

but seriously 3k/15kcsmm is fun and all but if your roster is limited and doesnt have a ton of investment, your main goal is 9k

[idle warren]

Ill give it a few more attempts before lowering it ig

[rapid osprey]

ok so heres your param issue

[bitter veldt]

you didn't do all strengths

strengths are freebies

[rapid osprey]

well

hold on scottie

[supple reef]

strengths are really only freebies if you're presyncing

[bitter veldt]

oh that's me 😛

im a presyner

[rapid osprey]

your biggest param issue is you're picking massively anti-synergy params

[idle warren]

This was the team I used too

[clear breach]

I know I’m just saying

[supple reef]

ok so gauge is your problem

[idle warren]

Oh like what

[rapid osprey]

you're making them hella tanky, And gradual healing, And boosting overall strength (which makes them even More tanky), And not really packing a team that can do anything in the face of that

[supple reef]

gradual healing should not be on this team, and this is actually the one team I dislike -2 gauge on

[rapid osprey]

if you look in the pins, you can see some recommended sets of params

[idle warren]

i thought i was on it

on recommended* mb

for post sync

[idle warren]

i guess that makes sense yeah

[rapid osprey]

and you can see how they work together/synergize

[idle warren]

ok lemme check pins again

ty btw

[rapid osprey]

heres the thing

so yes, you do have off-type post-sync as your params. but your team doesnt work for it

thats what im trying to say

[idle warren]

ohh

[rapid osprey]

if youre going for off-type post sync, you need a team that can do off-type post sync

[idle warren]

gotcha

[rapid osprey]

you dont have nearly the bulk to last through the sync, let alone the damage even with giacomo

so its hugely anti-synergy, because its not paying attention to your actual units

like adept said, i would take off -gauge and gradual healing 100%

[karmic zephyr]

Or, use different supports if possible

[rapid osprey]

you also probably want to drop +str tiles wherever you can so that you dont die either before or to the sync

[idle warren]

my only other ex support available rn is steven and bp barry

[rapid osprey]

if you're post-syncing anyway hp is fine to keep, because it doesnt make them hit harder - just a larger pool for you to burn through

[idle warren]

is there anything i could replace those tiles with or

[rapid osprey]

yes

we're getting there

[idle warren]

ok

[rapid osprey]

im trying to talk you through the logic of it

[idle warren]

str 1 and str 2 should be fine to drop right

oh i dont have str 1 nvm

ok im kinda understanding but im not sure what tiles are free for me anymore

[rapid osprey]

giacomo is a striker, so you want to drop 3x striker damage

because otherwise he will not survive sync

[idle warren]

ive got it on tech 3x

[rapid osprey]

ah mb

read that wrong

so heres our current params. you're aiming for 2500

[idle warren]

the sync countdown - tiles seem kinda

like i should avoid them

[rapid osprey]

correct

does giacomo apply an interference? iron head flinch i suppose

[idle warren]

yeah and i think thats it

[rapid osprey]

i would say take int immunity then

[idle warren]

alr

okay so i need like 250 more

[rapid osprey]

you dont want to take 1/2 mp because his bmove has mp

so then

if you have a defog unit available, i would say to take crit defense for 150 and str 1

[idle warren]

is there a way to filter for defog

[rapid osprey]

yes

remove field

at the bottom

you probably have darach or lisia

[idle warren]

yeah i have both

also have kukui

[rapid osprey]

kukui is phys and spec shield on sync

defog is all field effects

[idle warren]

ohh

[rapid osprey]

well

zone/terrain + shields

darach is actually quite nice in this scenario

because he gives everyone +3 speed (or more, if you have him at higher /5 and grid either mpr or pep rally)

plus, he controls atk, which is karen's teams main dmg anyway

so that will hugely help your survivability

[idle warren]

guess ill pick him up then

[rapid osprey]

he Will die to the first sync bc of tech 3x param

but thats fine

[idle warren]

alr

[rapid osprey]

we just need him to hit defog turn 1, tm turn 2, and then get in as many feather dances as he can

[idle warren]

should i wait until giacomo has SMUN 10 before using his b move?

[rapid osprey]

probably not

its better to use it twice at under full strength than only be able to use it once

[idle warren]

putting it that way makes a lot of sense

[rapid osprey]

you dont want to use it at like, 1 sync up next

but you do want to use it

plus, with darach dying to sync, you'll get pmun too

[old orchid]

His B Move does not consume SyMUN, so i don't see the reason behind saving his

[rapid osprey]

but already hopefully you're seeing how this is adjusting the params to better suit the units/team you have to work with

[idle warren]

yes this was really helpful, ty!

[idle warren]

just so he does more dmg

[sharp willow]

This parameter doesn't actually apply to syncs

[rapid osprey]

it doesnt? lmao??

til holy shit

[sharp willow]

Yeah I only learned that recently but it says "attack move" in the parameter description so its just dps and not syncs

[idle warren]

okay his b move is doing good dmg but shes really tanky

im tempted to candy giacomo but i dont think he gets his really good tiles until 4/5

[nocturne pawn]

u sure cuz im pretty sure it does

[sharp willow]

Pretty sure, yes.

The wording is consistent with other things that do not apply to sync moves like Master Passives

[nocturne pawn]

i could be wrong but i usually dont take those things anyway

so lemme check

guess it doesnt

but ideally you shouldnt need to tank a sync anyway

[rapid osprey]

before you candy giacomo, i would add levels to your team

also, what are you working with gear-wise?

[idle warren]

i dont have any gear

as in im not using any

[idle warren]

should i?

[clear breach]

Yes since they do provide some stats

[idle warren]

Alr

I dont think I have any useful type gear for him

Should I just focus on rerolling this

[rapid osprey]

rainbow feathers are your friends

you can reroll if you want but

i very newly have 3 random-roll skill gears; the rest are all rainbow feather gears

[idle warren]

Alr

How do I like, equip it

[keen jasper]

Damn was this hard to pull off, but it was worth it

Tech EXR Gloria copium time

[idle warren]

Thinking about EXing lenora for this

Vs karen

[gleaming jolt]

Try it without exing

First

[idle warren]

I tried it with ss blue but giacomo isnt doing enough danage

Let me try and record

[karmic zephyr]

Why don't you just try lowering the parameters? It's a shame to miss it because it resets in less than a couple hours.

2.5k is fine. 2k is fine

And I'm sure you'll 3k another stage

Or you have already

Not doing 15k is absolutely fine too. If you do 2.5 each stage, you get 12.5 in total. which is also great!

[idle warren]

Fair enough yeah

Guess I dont have the time to be choosy

[karmic zephyr]

I'm sure you'll do 15k another week! I still haven't done 15k myself if that makes you feel better

And we started playing the same time

[idle warren]

Ty for the help!

Was able to beat it with just an hour left lol, I think if I struggle next time then ill just do 2k points 😅 thx again to everyone who helped the past couple days

[keen jasper]

No half sync, boring week

[thorny wind]

Perma field my beloved

[toxic cobalt]

we should have weeks with 5 perma fields

[keen jasper]

No, 5 weeks of half sync

[toxic cobalt]

We get it you say this every week

[true bloom]

[keen jasper]

No I don't

[fading cradle]

perma field finally ❤️

[swift swan]

updated

[true bloom]

Yippie!

[undone ether]

that should do it

[trail smelt]

LMAO accidentally misclicked and let Lance sync wiping out my team except my tank SS Brendan… who proceeded to beat Lance anyway

Ready for next week

[thorny wind]

After the first three solos being an absolute ease, this brought me to Spain without S

But also this is the perfect time for me to ask

Somehow I bypassed the quad queue and immediately was able to click B Move? The only difference is I was flinched the turn before

I thought you can only click a move right after the orange aura around your mon disappears

But for this the sync hasn't even hit and I got to click a move already?

I don't think it happened to any of my solos before

Am I missing something or does this stuff happen often

For comparison this is the Sydney solo a while back. B Move is still disabled

[left storm]

Yeah it can happen

[thorny wind]

Huh that's news to me

TIL

[pine schooner]

another week another 15k on johto cs

[thorny wind]

There is one imposter

[trail smelt]

Im not sure which of them it is lol

[karmic zephyr]

maybe Barry because he's not a champion

[true bloom]

Yooooooo senpai

[true bloom]

NC Barry soon xD

[thorny wind]

So real!

[pine schooner]

what's upp

[true bloom]

Haven't seen you in Unite for a while 🙈

[karmic zephyr]

I'm feeling a bit dumb

I use a very good team against Lance but can't beat him

and idk what's my fault

[true bloom]

What team?

[karmic zephyr]

SS Cynthia/SS Lear/Chase

and everytime I die at Dragonite's sync even though all 3 pairs are alive and 2 of them with 100% hp

and dragonite has 10% left

I should drop something and get the weather parameter

[true bloom]

That's what I do too

[karmic zephyr]

even though Pikachu is first in tactics, he still survives after Dragonite's sync and the others go from 100 to 0

insane

[trail smelt]

SSynthia not surviving I get, but SS Lear too?

[karmic zephyr]

both of them die

and they are both 100

I beat him

I changed a few parameters

dropped a 200 to get 2 100s

my highest score. 14.5

I missed the 500 points from the poison team cause I don't think they can do anything and they barely survive everytime

I love Chase

He's always so helpful

and he literally needs 0 bars

if I could change something, I would probably swap SC Steven with SS Lear because I find Steven very useful too. And I think he could help Cynthia

[bitter veldt]

You can def retry to get 3k on poison.

[karmic zephyr]

I can live without the 5 champion spirits (that I have left from rewards) for now 😂

If I get bored within the week, I might try it. I'll see

[bitter veldt]

No fomo, nice

[karmic zephyr]

I'm actually quite surprised by how easy this week was for me

[bitter veldt]

This all took less than 20 min like changing parameters and beating everything for 15k, now I don't find csmm fun 😮

[karmic zephyr]

I still find it fun because I try new pairs everytime

let's see what's on the menu for next week

hmm, it will be harder

[left storm]

Johto 🛌

[thorny wind]

I still find CSMM fun because my units will not EX themselves

[gilded apex]

Man I have no bug types for champion stadium

Could 3rd anni team clear it 3k?

[supple reef]

you could offtype, poison stall, interference lock

Cynthia and Lance are also supereffective this week, but they should be capable offtype

[gilded apex]

What units are good for stall and inteference?

[supple reef]

poison stall is just full defensive parameters, a tank with Synchro Healing, and someone who can inflict bad poison like BP Erika

my first 3k poison stall team was Event Misty, BP Erika, and Janine for offensive debuffs

[gilded apex]

Which units have synchro healing?

[supple reef]

interference lock could be something like flinch stalling with SS Lyra (or other consistent 100% flincher), or sleep chaining once you learn the timings for it

[supple reef]

Look on pomatools for the passive named “S-Move: Team HP Recovery”

[gilded apex]

Alr

[supple reef]

my account is good enough now to not need poison stall but a bulky Recuperation tank can also work (Rika my beloved)

[gilded apex]

I have rika 1/5

[supple reef]

yeah Rika needs 5/5 to do that unless she has other repeatable healing

[gilded apex]

alr

[supple reef]

the Synchro Healing tank is the better route anyways, it lets you keep a full team alive

[gilded apex]

I just do 2k offtype atm, I’ll eventually build a synchro or stall team

[lean lion]

You can try Bugsy and Noland

[toxic cobalt]

Stall can be easier than offtype

[dusty crater]

If you ever say CS is hard. just remember, you can waste 2 whole hours. just to poison stall.

don't actually, Lance has Clean Slate, and will take 30+ mins to actually KO

[supple reef]

see now that sounds like a challenge to me

[paper summit]

watching paint dry, how exciting

[blazing perch]

Can I 3k?

[supple reef]

If you can it's going to be through offtyping most likely

unless you also have variety Falkner

[blazing perch]

Nc cheren offtype I guess

[sharp willow]

SC Barry + Variety Noland should be able to 3k on type with a decent support

[blazing perch]

Should I try this?

[supple reef]

smh you can't be clueless on csmm potential and then casually drop a 5/5 arc steven

[sharp willow]

I would switch out Skyla for Variety Noland, that team should have 0 issue with clearing

Just make sure you sync with Barry first

[blazing perch]

Ok guys thanks

Yeah I 1 shoted them

[blazing perch]

I waste all my luck there mate didn’t got any decent pair after that

I guess I could try palkia?

[sharp willow]

Cyrus is very solid, he shouldn't struggle too much to 3k

[karmic zephyr]

If this is for Lance, I actually cleared him with SS Cynthia. If that helps you and if you can support her somehow

[fading cradle]

hm, think i need some help trying to clear grass weak bruno with this team. this team 3ked grass weak bertha before but now i completely forgot how to set up this team 💀

does morty or brendan want to sync first?

[old orchid]

SS Morty, especially when caked

Maybe param issues? Because there is no way this team fails to clear Bruno who is miles weaker than Bertha

[fading cradle]

i was thinking that too, i left on atk 5(?) i believe, but turned off both 100 point damage reductions to leaf storm with brendan and solar blade with erika

[brisk oriole]

I used almost similar Sunny Day Team with both DR turned off
BP Lusamine, SS Erika + Aaron (for the buffing)
Tho I had the advantage of 5/5 SS Erika

[vague solar]

I just invested in looker a few weeks ago and completely forgot to use him today 😭😭

[brisk oriole]

Invested as in EX-ed? I think he would be able to crush this stage easily assuming you used him there

[gleaming jolt]

@frank shard

Can you show screenshot of your type medal coverage here?

[frank shard]

My first round this was I cleared 15/18

[gleaming jolt]

Great

[finite ginkgo]

Im trying to come up with a team for Karen what could I run? It’s just hard mode

[karmic zephyr]

Which medals are you missing

[vague solar]

Hilbert + Sycamore + a 3rd member to fill a medal req

Or if you want to save Sycamore, go for Skyla for speed and potions and a 3rd that can buff Hilbert’s crit faster

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend building a team around SS Hilbert, following the Teambuilding 101 advice and trying to have at least 2 types (the type of the Sync Move, specifically) you haven’t already used on the team

[finite ginkgo]

Okay thank you

[finite ginkgo]

Uhhh where’s the team building 101 advice?

[mellow linden]

In #1010307000346878062, or by going to #bot-zone and using the +101 command in that channel

[finite ginkgo]

thank you

[karmic zephyr]

I would love to see 3k poison stall parameters if someone can share theirs. I know they change based on the team.I use Lucy, Oak and Janine. The classic one.

[mellow linden]

You’d pretty much just take the 2.5k ones as a base and add as few damage-boosting parameters as possible (and if you have to do so then favoring Strength ^ instead of the ones that boost Attack & Sp. Atk. directly) when choosing your final 500

[old orchid]

Event Oak is not a suited tank for poison stalling

[karmic zephyr]

okay so based on this advice, I tried to copy the preset and add what I thought would be okay. So here they are, thoughts?

[mellow linden]

Interference Immunity prevents Trap (thus half of Lucy’s DoT) and I think I poorly worded my statement of if you have to add offense-boosting parameters; if you have to add them then do Strength instead of direct offense boosts

[karmic zephyr]

oh I totally read that part wrong yeah

I have to redo

[left storm]

He definitely is

He can solo stall 3k cs

[manic mica]

~~As someone who has used oak countless times for 3k poison stall I'm hurt ~~

[manic mica]

Power on Hit is basically a death penalty for poison stalling since you're most probably going to have to stall for more than 3-4 syncs causing way too much damage boosts for the opponents

[old orchid]

Hi hurt

[left storm]

https://tenor.com/view/human-form-guzma-pokémon-destruction-gif-12177060

Didn't think I'd get it this fast ngl

[left storm]

🙏

[gleaming jolt]

Bettie rocks!

[gleaming jolt]

[fading cradle]

noland, so true

[brisk oriole]

How does Zerena do here?

[left storm]

She melts like always

[gleaming jolt]

She is amazing!
She might need external speed buffs, but other than that she can do everything on her own when fully invested!

Like 2x sync buff! AoE powerful attacks!

NC Rosa is buffing the speed while Sycamore is just a filler (I wanted to put him with Serena)

[thorny wind]

Yoooo congrats you got Zerena

[left storm]

Zerena aged kinda meh but she's still a monster in CS

[brisk oriole]

A good pull then

[gleaming jolt]

No doubt!

[brisk oriole]

Is she currently 1/5?

[gleaming jolt]

No she is 3/5

[brisk oriole]

True, unless CSMM limit go up? 4k maybe

[left storm]

1/5 is pretty bad

[brisk oriole]

Hm hm

[left storm]

Even then no problem

[gleaming jolt]

She will clear it easily

[left storm]

She can ontype 4k like a breeze

[brisk oriole]

Nice

[left storm]

But tbh most units can

Limited wise

[brisk oriole]

Can agree, as long as we invested enough

[left storm]

Like, these are 2/5 iris, 1/5 Roxanne, and 2 gen pools
Rosa absolutely murked Bruno in 3 moves (she's 3/5)

[graceful oriole]

paldea cs and hard lvl 2 next mine trust

[fading cradle]

i can barely get by csmm 15k, pls no

[gleaming jolt]

But why?

Are you not offtyping

[left storm]

Just give us more points and params

[gleaming jolt]

I know you have amazing pairs Melissa

[fading cradle]

rng is my enemy

[true bloom]

Melissa has good pairs but some like SC Barry only 1/5

[fading cradle]

sc barry makes me tweak, it’s like he can never land that crit whenever he syncs

[idle warren]

Gotten close to beating him with this team @2650 points but looker keeps dying to his sync move even at +6 defense

[fading cradle]

not sure if this is the best advice but have you tried poison stalling? poison weak stages are very vulnerable to stalling

[left storm]

Do you have literally 0 gear

[idle warren]

I have more just from masters day

[idle warren]

Ive never tried tbh

[brisk oriole]

Trying Looker? 1/5 might be hard tho

[idle warren]

Yeah I got really close a couple times

[brisk oriole]

Mine was 3/5 or 5/5 tho

Janine is there to guarantee poison and do some venom drench for debuffing

[left storm]

Then get yourself a poison gear

[idle warren]

I have 2

[left storm]

Or make a skill gear with poison theme

[idle warren]

Bandana and bracelet

I just dont have a lot of materials to level them

[left storm]

Because those 70-100 hp can make a difference

Aren't the materials farmable

[left storm]

Infinitely

[idle warren]

I think?

[brisk oriole]

Possible to kill mid mon prw sync?

[idle warren]

No

Unless I find a way to sync twice

Even then im not sure

[brisk oriole]

For gear, you can consider using the White Color Gear (the one where you used Feather) to get the param, it is better than Type Gear

[brisk oriole]

I think Will deals Special Damage tho
You might have needed Sp Def Buffer if you wanted to go for post sync

[idle warren]

He has both

But this week he has phys sync

[left storm]

Isn't he psychic weak

If so yeah he ain't livin

[idle warren]

Its a grass move

[brisk oriole]

Oh I see

[idle warren]

He lived it before but that was rng cuz of dawns power siphon

[brisk oriole]

I needed to quadqueue to clear it myself (need to do second sync before enemy sync)

I think sidemon would be the problem afterwards tho

[fading cradle]

if you need to as a last resort, there’s always poison stalling

[left storm]

The sync? Nvm then

[vernal badger]

What are f2p teams for this week?

[karmic zephyr]

Well for Will, it's Oak, Lucy, Janine

[mellow linden]

F2p team for Will would probably be a team based around Shauntal and/or Giovanni

Wait

That was Ghost weak

This week would be either nearly any form of Poison stall or a team based around Roxie

Depending on your personal preferences in playstyle

[karmic zephyr]

Poison stall is a lot easier for f2p than poison striker

[mellow linden]

Do note that 1) Oak + Nidorino is an event pair and cannot be assumed to be had by everyone, and 2) Poison stall is an incredibly broad archetype that is not limited to monotype or specific options for the archetype’s team roles

[karmic zephyr]

I thought Oak was a bingo pair and everyone had him

[mellow linden]

Oak + Mew is

[karmic zephyr]

Oh mb

That's why I confused it yeah

But still, I'm sure they can replace oak with anyone (a good tank)

[fading cradle]

bp morty is one of the best poison stall tanks imo

poison weak will does kinda ask for on type with him since he has hostile environment (so sludge bomb has a higher chance of poisoning you)

[median kindle]

Who should I swap Emma with

[left storm]

Why would you swap

That team should wreck

[mellow linden]

A team built around either Emma or Clara should win fairly easily, with both then as long as they're getting their needed buffs and there's no gauge issues they should win just fine

Don't be afraid to run a different Support than Oak, you don't need to run a monotype team

[median kindle]

It’s focused on special attacks

Emma is a physical attacker

[old orchid]

you don't need to restrict yourself to round parameters

special moves being powered up doesn't mean physical attackers are useless

[median kindle]

Is dawn good or should I swap her?

[gleaming jolt]

First try this team, if doesn't work

Replace her with another attacker like SS Erika!

[swift swan]

imo if dawn is on the team you might as well tank with her for her passive

but you don't really need her considering ss morty is a great tank

[karmic zephyr]

Time to plan ahead for next week and it's gonna be harder than this week.

I see Koga has increased special defense. So that means he needs a physical attacker

[left storm]

Not really

I used to clear him with Leon only all month

[fading cradle]

what’s koga weak to tomorrow? flying?

nc cheren gonna shred regardless lmao

[karmic zephyr]

yes flying but I'll off type

working on my teams now and I'll post them when I'm ready

It worked great when I did that last week

[fading cradle]

bruno is psychic weak again…

my life would have been so much easier if earthquake spams weren’t a thing with psychic weak bruno’s stage

[karmic zephyr]

hmm do you think Lear will be able to clear him?

[fading cradle]

unsure, i dont have him

[karmic zephyr]

well he's my only option so if he doesn't work, I'll off type

650? what is this?

does that mean that all his hits are gonna be one hits?

[left storm]

650 is low

[karmic zephyr]

oh

oh so he will deal less damage?

[left storm]

Ye

[karmic zephyr]

okay

[left storm]

Most stages have 950+ atk

[karmic zephyr]

I'm ready for my teams I guess

Will: SC Irida, NC Bede, Victor (Bede might change depending on whether I want to use him with Marnie or not)
Bruno: Lear, SS Kris, Falkner
Karen: Rei, NC Hop, Morgan
Koga: ARC Cynthia, F2023 Roxanne, Bertha
Lance: NC Marnie, SS Brendan, Chase

Again I left some good ones out

I want to use ARC Steven somewhere because he's extremely good to be left out

maybe I can offtype Bruno with Anni Lillie, ARC Steven + a random pair

[fading cradle]

anni lillie is weak to ground so if rng hits you with earthquake, be careful, just hope you can kill bruno and the right side before they can earthquake you

[karmic zephyr]

okay that's good to know

maybe I can replace the Koga team for Bruno (if Lear doesn't work) and use the anni lillie arc steven team on Koga

Any notes on the other teams?

I left my sweet diamond SS Lear out but couldn't do anything else

Maybe I'll squeeze him somewhere

hmm maybe I can replace Lear with Mix Leaf if she can work as a striker

[rapid osprey]

oh god its sunday

thank god johto is so easy

i need to do csmm and br

[robust barn]

gonna do this opponent order for CS ty

[fading cradle]

ghost weak will again

i need to redeem myself and NOT be a dumbass by leaving special damage reduction 8 on when using sc irida

[rapid osprey]

alr. r1 bruno; r2 koga; r3 will; r4 karen; will see what i add to lance when i get there

[grand trout]

Can i clear lance with 2k using mc chu

[rapid osprey]

11k ezpz

[swift swan]

updated

[keen jasper]

No half sync, DeNA is weak

[trail smelt]

Nothing of note this week, SSRynthia still slams Will way too hard and doesn’t care she has no multipliers lol

Ready for next week- oh

[karmic zephyr]

Against who did you use Ss Cynthia?

[trail smelt]

Will, and it’s Renegade

[karmic zephyr]

Oh

[velvet parcel]

I had a feeling this would be a success!

The team works perfectly!

[brisk oriole]

Wow NC Team

[karmic zephyr]

woohoo! I just did my first 15k!

do we know which region is next?

[silver dirge]

Not yet. We'll know in datamine

[fading cradle]

i fell asleep like 10 minutes before the reset lol, havent done the stadium yet. at least there’s no half sync 🙏

[vague solar]

We got flying weak this week woo

Gloria solo 3k time

[sick inlet]

I wish there was a half sync

My deoxys run would have been much easier

[fading cradle]

keep wishing

[sick inlet]

Fr fr it's the best

Unless you're stalling I guess?

[fading cradle]

half sync is 💩

[left storm]

It's one of the few ways to get solos

Without resetting for hours

[vague solar]

Half sync is super fun when you got good on-type strikers

[keen jasper]

I want half sync

[silver dirge]

We know

I think you've made that pretty clear

[paper summit]

you act as if the sync countdown parameters didn't exist, just use those...

[grand trout]

Cheren laughs at koga this week

Fuck your wise entry

[fading cradle]

cheren deletes flying weak koga from existence

[sick inlet]

Funnily enough I actually use those, and think they're always under everyone's radar

[keen jasper]

It ain't even Wise Entry x1.5, it's just higher innate Sp. Def.

[grand trout]

Ik but "higher innate sp def" isn't really a term in poma ain't it

Potato potato

[paper summit]

it amounts to the same thing so it's kind of a moot point

[fading cradle]

die lance

[unique sand]

Much like Lyrapuff I’ll die on Maybunny hill.

[median kindle]

I got busy and forgot about the Champion Stadium and it ended up resetting

I’m currently on R3 and I’m looking for the best pair to lower Sp Def

[old orchid]

that team is fine, just get rid of Rosa, replace her with a crit buffer

[clear breach]

It might be a little more difficult since Koga has 50% Extra Sp.Def I believe

[median kindle]

Who should I replace her with

[old orchid]

can you think of anyone

[median kindle]

Is it someone who can lower SP def?

[old orchid]

it's a bonus if they can drop spdef reliably, otherwise you should focus on buffing Lugia to +3 crit and +6 spatk asap

[median kindle]

I did that and was barely able to do damage to Koga’s main Pokemon

That’s why I had Rosa

[old orchid]

Rosa barely does anything

[median kindle]

She increase special attack

[old orchid]

that's the reason i suggested using a crit buffer...

[median kindle]

Ohhh….

I just assumed that Ethan had one already

[old orchid]

no, just sure crit from the TM

please pay attention to sync pairs' kit to avoid wasting time

[clear breach]

Keep in mind that Koga has a 50% increase to special defense so he’s going to take less damage from special moves

[old orchid]

spdef debuffing won't neutralize the increase btw

[median kindle]

I replaced Rosa with Faulkner which helped with the damage increase

[old orchid]

no need to ping me btw

see how it goes

[median kindle]

The only issue I have is that Skyla’s tm has defense instead of sp def

So after one sync all my pairs are defeated

[old orchid]

there is a simple solution

just replace her with a spdef buffer

[vague solar]

3k with solo stadium Gloria wooo

[median kindle]

I ended up using Metagross lol

Arc Steven I mean

[old orchid]

i see no problem

[median kindle]

Also the rest of the battles were a piece of cake

I’m getting used to complaining most 3k runs

Flying was kind of a struggle

[manic mica]

All first try except for Bruno

[fiery canopy]

my memory is so rusty uhh whats a good support fot rei

[gleaming jolt]

A defense debuffer like BP Clemont, A fighting type rebuff like NC Rosa or A fighting zone setter like SSA Cynthia

Or a sync accelerator

[karmic zephyr]

I used mine with NC Hop and Morgan and it was very easy

[karmic zephyr]

Out of curiosity, did you get 3k on the poison stall stage?

[manic mica]

Yeah this is 15k

[proud axle]

Which league are we expecting next month?

[thorny wind]

Kalos

[uneven ravine]

yall don’t roast me but after putting it off for SO long, i finally completed champion stadium… like, my first ever champion stadium. wasn’t really paying attention to the rules of each round and just did them in order but i had a pretty easy time with everyone except koga

[manic mica]

Congratulations!

[lime horizon]

Congrats! And you have some interesting sync pairs

[fading cradle]

next month is kalos…

[left storm]

Based

Finally some actually entertaining fights

Where I don't have to use seasonals to win or I feel cheap

[fading cradle]

i see a war in my head as i recall my prior experience with kalos cs

[keen jasper]

Finally, some real fucking food

[fading cradle]

dismantle kalos cs

screw fairy weak drasna

[left storm]

Which I beat with base Valerie, sycamore and SS elesa, all exless

Poor drasna can't break past syca

[undone ether]

4 weeks of kalos eh

[fading cradle]

i legit didn’t have any resources to upgrade my bp valerie at the time so i had to offtype ☠️

i was a newbie back in april when kalos cs was around

[true bloom]

Time for revenge and brute force all of them

[fading cradle]

i will still hate kalos cs even if i somehow manage to destroy them

[left storm]

I didn't say BP

Dw

It's beatable with base exless val

And sycamore

This was also before he got ex

[undone ether]

hrm pomatools isn't updated yet.

[left storm]

Methinks

[undone ether]

i was hoping to plan my fights ahead

[fading cradle]

i will take any opportunity to shit on kalos cs

and FUCK kalos cs

[true bloom]

To think one of the easiest league in main games is one of the hardest in Poma

[swift swan]

dw, soon with time and practice you'll be able to sweep kalos CS

[gleaming jolt]

Melissa after a complete round of Master Mode from different regions it will be easier than before

[gleaming jolt]

Ah

[brisk oriole]

Last Kalos CSMM was April hm

[fading cradle]

can someone tell me which types i’m missing from the kalos medal ☠️☠️☠️☠️ i cant see

[gleaming jolt]

Normal
Psychic
Ground

1 more

[fading cradle]

i think it’s dark???

[gleaming jolt]

Yes

[fading cradle]

alright thanks

[supple reef]

you’ll also be able to see them all with the type names once it’s relevant next week

[loud forge]

Hello there ! I was wondering if I could build good team(s?) With this roster : https://imgur.com/a/t2CSl17

Thank you very much !

[old orchid]

+tracker next times you want to get help, you should setup the tracker to show all of your units at once in a single image

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[old orchid]

are you asking for help for hard or master mode?

[karmic zephyr]

Did you notice you have a filter on? Is there a reason for that? I see you already have everything you need to have. Marnie 😍

But from this quick look I took, you won't have trouble to 10-15k

[loud forge]

I would say Hard mode first since I assume that it's the easier and yes the filler is to show base 5* only but I don't know if it's a good thing

[swift swan]

if you haven't completed hard mode, you can't access master mode anyway

and yes, please use the tracker next time (no need to filter for 5*s only, show everything, follow the video tutorial)

hard mode's not so different from ordinary battles. build 5 teams centering your best damage dealers (if you can ontype that's great, if you can't, just offtype it with your best damage dealers). send your teams here for feedback

[old orchid]

while making teams for hard mode, you want to use many diverse types as possible (maximum to 15) so you can unlock master mode within 2 weeks

since this is the last week of Johto CS so you have to wait for its next return in order to unlock master mode of this region

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[brisk oriole]

Time to make a team of genpool too to be used before the teams above.

[keen jasper]

I wonder if superawakened units can make 5.5k pts. per stage possible

[graceful axle]

question, as i'm just returning to mastermode
max points is 3k per, 15k is max for rewards
i take that champ also gives points the same way?
is the sheet in the pins still good for this or are there better options to select?

[left storm]

Champ is just a fifth stage

No different than previous 4

Aside the fact you get to choose a parameter

[graceful axle]

alright, that works out
any tips on the parameters? as you do need the 3k?

[left storm]

The best rewards are at 4250 and 7500 points iirc

So you don't need 15k at all

Especially noteworthy that the rewards between 12 and 15k are mostly whatever

[gleaming jolt]

Done

[thorny wind]

Oh ye I should do mine too

[clear breach]

The triple Cheren combo

[hushed burrow]

Please help me I'm trying to do 1.5k CSMM

[graceful axle]

so the 2.5k is plenty? guess i'll look into it and see how it rolls

[toxic cobalt]

What are your best damage dealers for each type?

[hushed burrow]

I sent all of them in the ss

Perhaps u could tell me

Cuz I'm stuck 😞

[karmic zephyr]

What filter do you have on?

[hushed burrow]

Electric flying ghost and psychic

The types of the CSMM I haven't done

[karmic zephyr]

You don't have to do mono type teams.

Just pick a striker for each of the types you mentioned and build on them.

And you can always off type too

[toxic cobalt]

How are you doing 1.5k if you have types left?

[karmic zephyr]

No that's not what they mean Aurochs

The types they mentioned are the weaknesses

Not the ones they have left

I assume their emblem is done already

[toxic cobalt]

Hmmm well then yes don't monotype

Shauntal Giovanni Blue and Elesa then I guess

[karmic zephyr]

Hm I'd like to see the off type options too.

Because sometimes I've tried an on type f2p striker and they can be hard to work. They need the right setup and grid.

[hushed burrow]

I'm not tryna do monotype, the reason I sent them is so that someone could help me pick Dmg dealers for the syages

[hushed burrow]

Elesa just knocks herself off

[hushed burrow]

I will send all my units then

[karmic zephyr]

In my experience, Elesa needs her grid to shine. And even then, she's not the best striker. That's what I meant when I said that f2p can struggle without their move levels and without the right setup

I already see some very good pairs so you can consider off type

For example Giacomo is a very strong pair

And how did you beat the fighting weak stage without using Rei?

My Elesa is 5/5 and I didn't use her on that stage. And off-typed so...

[hushed burrow]

I used him

[karmic zephyr]

oh okay

[hushed burrow]

This is in the edit team menu

Not the cs menu

Is it just me or do the NPCs crit WAY too much despite being +0 crit

[karmic zephyr]

I haven't really noticed that but it is master mode so it's not supposed to be that easy

[supple reef]

You could just get unlucky streaks of crits, it happens sometimes

[keen jasper]

Wait wrong

: P

[karmic zephyr]

so other than Giacomo, you have SS Red too. So that can be 2 off type teams already

I haven't really seen anyone use Giovanni but I think you can make him work somehow

Oh wait! I just realised that you miss the legendary adventures pairs

[hushed burrow]

Not just CS like all game modes

[hushed burrow]

Yea I was kinda lazy 😅

[karmic zephyr]

Well, because you don't have many options here, you can try getting them and raising them to 5/5. It could help since you don't have many pairs

I already suggested 3 strikers so you miss 1 team

Are you saving your gems for someone? Or you just don't like any pair on current banners?

Like if you don't have any problem and don't save for anyone, Zerena looks fine to me

[hushed burrow]

What about gloria

[hushed burrow]

The latter

Plus I only have about 7k

[karmic zephyr]

Gloria looks fine to me but I don't know how she works. I read her kit, she seems simple and probably sufficient

I'm a new player myself so I can't say I have much knowledge but if there's one thing I learned is that you start with a striker and go from there

[supple reef]

Gloria (Zacian?) is very dependent on move levels to be any kind of viable

[keen jasper]

Which Gloria?

[karmic zephyr]

no it's Cinderace Gloria guys

[keen jasper]

Ah

[karmic zephyr]

Gloria Alt 2

[keen jasper]

She's simple

[supple reef]

see, this is why you have to include the suffix when talking about pairs

[keen jasper]

She lowers the rebuff of the respective type depending on the max move you use

And the passives also change depending on what max move you use

[karmic zephyr]

Well the person who needs help just said Gloria and there's only 1 Gloria on their roster so I kinda figured

[brave halo]

So out of the current stages next week, which looks best to go with using palmer and anabel with? Anabel will be exr too after tomorrow

[karmic zephyr]

oh next week is out? Let me check

[mellow linden]

Anyone not named Malva, I guess

Since iirc she’s the only one with Sentry Entry x2

[karmic zephyr]

I like the weaknesses next week because I don't have many strong strikers for those types. So I miss that week because I'll do hard mode.

Sadly the week after that I see bug weak but eh, nothing I can do

[brave halo]

Same for the chef guy, but currently I have thought of using them against diantha

[karmic zephyr]

what are your other teams and will you on or off type them?

[mellow linden]

Electric weak Siebold does not have Sentry Entry x2 (or any Entry x2, for that matter)

[karmic zephyr]

it's interesting to see the same weaknesses this week and the next one. ghost, flying, electric

[brave halo]

Oh I'm looking at the wrong stage for siebold

My bad

[fading cradle]

shit, she has sentry entry x2????

no nc silvering for me unless he can brute force her at 1/5 ig

[supple reef]

there’s a lot of entry x2 passives in Kalos iirc

[fading cradle]

that’s why i hated kalos sm 😭

[nocturne pawn]

she has sentry entry x2 but she has base hp

so shes still easily brute forceable

[vernal badger]

Can someone help me to try to get atleast 2700 Champion Stadium Points for the 5up

[karmic zephyr]

yeah you can send us your roster and which stages you have left

[vernal badger]

All stages

Its my first try on Master Mode

[karmic zephyr]

okay, so send your pairs

[vernal badger]

#poma-questions message

this but Sonia is now on EX

[karmic zephyr]

ooh Maxie and Archie! Nice

[vernal badger]

I want to hit 2700 points if possible for the 5up

I need to EX more pairs

[karmic zephyr]

Well since your Elesa is 4/5 you can go for her at the electric weak stage and as for other ones, I would off type

So one team can be around SS Red

[vernal badger]

Maybe the first Battle since it buffs physical attacks

[karmic zephyr]

And then I was thinking of 2 of the teams can be with Maxie and Archie but I think I've read before they aren't that good but since you have them, it doesn't hurt to try them

[karmic zephyr]

no because the electric weak stage is Lance and he's the champion.

So it's actually the last battle

which you can choose the physical buff!

[vernal badger]

Oh true

But I somehow need to Beat the others First

[karmic zephyr]

mhm

so I think you could definitely try building 2 teams with Archie and Maxie and see how it goes

so you only miss 1 striker

hmm

Oh I didn't notice you have SST Red too

damn

[vernal badger]

I played like 2 years ago

[karmic zephyr]

okay so SS Red, SST Red, Maxie and Archie. These look good to me as strikers and you can go from there

[vernal badger]

Where they first had the anniversary and Archie/Maxie Banner afterwards

But I need 5 Teams

[karmic zephyr]

oh that's great

oh yeah I know, I just tried to give you a striker for each team so you can build on them

[vernal badger]

But thats still just 4 strikers

[karmic zephyr]

oh did I miss one?

oh yeah and Elesa. I said her before. And actually you have SS Leaf too so you can maybe mix and match and see what works for you

so you can actually on type the electric weak stage and then off type another stage with another electric striker

[vernal badger]

Yea

[karmic zephyr]

I hope I'm helping?

[vernal badger]

I can try that

[supple reef]

you don’t necessarily need a striker as your primary damage source if you plan on winning by active damage

[karmic zephyr]

mhm

[vernal badger]

I just need to Upgrade their Sync Grids

[karmic zephyr]

that's why I suggested the tech pairs

[supple reef]

and if you plan on winning by passive damage (poison stall) you don’t need a damage dealer at all

[karmic zephyr]

yeah do that, it will help!

I totally forgot about poison stall

that's free points

[vernal badger]

Is this easier than nuking?

[karmic zephyr]

yeah

it can be

[supple reef]

poison stall is really your solution to “I don’t have a good damage dealer to counter this fight and want high point clears”

[karmic zephyr]

mhm, but aren't the strikers I suggested good?

[mellow linden]

If you’re new to Master Mode I’d recommend starting with 4250 points total (850 points per stage), as that can be done with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode

[vernal badger]

Drasna and Dragalge to poison them badly and then just Tank?

[vernal badger]

That would already help because thats like 6 5ups

Its 4 but still

[supple reef]

Take a look at the pins for preset parameters, they’ll be really helpful for you getting started

[mellow linden]

Poison stall teams generally consist of a Poison inflictor (ideally Bad Poison from Toxic or Poison Fang; Lucy and BP Erika are usually the top picks), an offensive debuffer (Janine is the top pick due to Venom Drench, but you can run with other options depending on the stage), and a tank (a Support who can buff one or both defenses and has reliable healing; BP Morty is one of the top options)

[supple reef]

and the game plan is pretty simple: inflict your statuses, debuff their offenses, and spam syncs with your Synchro Healing pair to keep your team alive while the enemies slowly die

[vernal badger]

What is a synchro healing pair

[supple reef]

a pair with the passive that has since been renamed to “S-Move: Team HP Recovery (M)”

[vernal badger]

Wouldnt Drasna and Dragalge be more effective since their poision doesnt have 50% Chance

[supple reef]

Lucy has Hostile Environment 1

[mellow linden]

You can grid them for Hostile Environment in the case of Poison Fang users, but Lucy and BP Erika are generally the top picks because they can also inflict Trapped for more DoT

[supple reef]

Drasna has only recently become a free option to inflict bad poison, but doesn’t come with any self defensive utility iirc

[vernal badger]

Ah

So I Start with I Dare You, then Poison Fang all three opponents and then go for Wrap

[mellow linden]

Go for Poison Fang on all 3 immediately

[supple reef]

just turn 1 poison fang mid so that it takes bad poison off its first attack immediately

[mellow linden]

Then Trapped on all 3

[supple reef]

The damage isn’t actually all that threatening until you get to the enemy having multiple sync buffs

[vernal badger]

And Janine lowers their stats when theyre poisoned

[mellow linden]

Yes

That’s why you wanna Poison them ASAP

[supple reef]

You also dump your points into max defenses for the opponent, so you’re not giving them any offensive buffs

[vernal badger]

Do I have BP Morty

Or an Alternative

[mellow linden]

Depending on what stage you’re dealing with there are plenty of options for the tank

[supple reef]

it bothers me that your event Misty is 1/5 but at 3/5 she can work, Sycamore is also fine depending on the stage since he can keep himself alive forever and watch the enemies slowly die off

[vernal badger]

Can I put more than 850 points with stall to clear the other battles easier

[supple reef]

absolutely

850 is an incredibly easy bar to clear with poison stall, every HP and defense parameter should get you well over double that since poison chip is percentage based

[mellow linden]

850 per stage is already little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode

[vernal badger]

Okay

[mellow linden]

Because all the parameters you’d pick for 850 at worst conditionally have no effect, with most of them not actually having an impact at all as long as you’re doing proper teambuilding

[vernal badger]

Nice to hear

What Order should I try

btw I have 3 Gold BP Tickets so I could buy Morty

[mellow linden]

Outside of maybe wanting to avoid Bruno on Round 1 and definitely wanting to avoid Poison stall on rounds 1 and 4 the order doesn’t really matter

[vernal badger]

Okay

[vernal badger]

Thanks guys for the help I cleared with 7000 points

Did around 1500 with poison stall and 3000 on champion with SST Red

[karmic zephyr]

damn! that's nice!

did you build around the ones I mentioned?

if you easily did that you can always reset and try for more points

[hushed burrow]

NOOO, well tbf doesn't matter as much cuz I gotta unlock master mode

[hushed burrow]

Which round should I do Bruno on?

Is CSMM with 0 points harder than CS hard mode?

[mellow linden]

Outside of maybe wanting to avoid him on round 1 it doesn’t really matter

[mellow linden]

No

If you don’t select any parameters it’s literally just hard mode

[hushed burrow]

Alright

Thanks

[vernal badger]

The first battle I tried with Archie but switched to ontype fighting then and cleared with Mega Lucario. (850 points)
The second battle I cleared with Maxie(Bruno) (850 points)
Third battle was Koga with poison stall (~1500 points)
Fourth battle was with Red and Charizard (850 points)
Champion was with SST Red (3000 points)

The Champion was pretty easy so I got 3000k there. All the other battles were fairly close so I don't think it's worth to stay awake now to try to get a few hundred points more

[karmic zephyr]

You still got 3 resets left so there's plenty of time

[karmic zephyr]

That sounds great! 💖 Great job!

[thorny wind]

Will has Impervious right

[nocturne pawn]

correct

[thorny wind]

Thanks

[hushed burrow]

Noob will

[fading cradle]

ghost weak will and impervious 💩

[nocturne pawn]

meh its just a minor annoyance really

i still blew him up with no problems

[hushed burrow]

The problem is they start with sp def reduction and i only have special ghost units

[nocturne pawn]

crits bypass defense buffs if you were not aware

[fading cradle]

yeah ghost weak will is nothing but impervious does get a little annoying when my usual ghost team’s strategy involves debuffing

[nocturne pawn]

you should be buffing your dpsers to +3 crit and at least +4 of the relevant attack stat

[hushed burrow]

Even the field effect reduction?

And passives?

[thorny wind]

The noob is dead

[undone ether]

will, with impervious

goddamnit i hate that fight.

[fading cradle]

the first time i fought ghost weak will, i brought sc irida and expected her to cheese him. i left the special damage reduction 8 param on.

[undone ether]

do you know how i beat that fight?

14 Sync Buffs in.

NY Dawn finally cleared him.

LOL

FLINCHING with Leaf & Elaine 3R

the sides died at least at 6 sync buffs in

[nocturne pawn]

if you pick special damage reduction 8 that will not be ignored by crits also not wise entry x2 since that is a direct stat increase

[undone ether]

but yeah, very not fun. most of the ghost types require debuffing for maximum damage.

[thorny wind]

Lmao yikes. Only good thing about this fight is that No Stat Reduction is free points

[undone ether]

nods

[thorny wind]

Bye Johto

[hushed burrow]

Wow

[left storm]

I just used cheese this week, since it was midnight

No time to seasonal 2v3 every stage

[hushed burrow]

How do u guys do this

[undone ether]

do what?

oh two screenshots and splice it together? it depends on your phone

[old orchid]

skills and insanity

[keen jasper]

Years of experience

[hushed burrow]

No, the 1v3

[undone ether]

oh.

like what they said. insanity.

[hushed burrow]

Fair enough

[undone ether]

there are psychos that do 4000 points per fight too.

[gleaming jolt]

They are preparing for CSMM level 2 or 3 whatever is next

[hushed burrow]

Lol why

[undone ether]

its either boredom got to their mind, or they want to test things. solo mode or team comps.

[gleaming jolt]

For challenge because doing 3k again and again is boring

[keen jasper]

Please, 4k pts. per stage is extremely easy nowadays

Should bump up the points to 4.5k per stage

[undone ether]

case and point lol

[gleaming jolt]

For that we need more busted F2P pairs like Anni Lillie 2024

[old orchid]

no, add more parameters first

[undone ether]

we actually need new params.

[keen jasper]

No, bump the points per stage to 3.5k

[old orchid]

adding limited event pairs does not balance the difficulty

[gleaming jolt]

i see

[vernal badger]

Why do you go above 3000 points if that is max? Just for the challenge?

[gleaming jolt]

Yes

[loud forge]

Hello there ! I would like to know what are my best team for Marnie and leaf (champion)

[old orchid]

against who

you are attempting hard mode right?

[loud forge]

Yeah it would be my first time doing it

[old orchid]

ideally you should plan ahead, starting with planning each dmg dealer for each fight

then you try to use many types as possible to register in the type medal

Marnie is a dmg dealer in a team, and Leaf (Champion) will carry another team

with limited roster, it's better not to use strong pairs in the same team, spreading them out is more recommended

for now can you try to plan a dmg dealer for each stage first? then we will give you feedbacks if necessary after you are done

the pins have a site that shows you the gimmicks of each fight

[loud forge]

Sorry if it was not clear since english is not my native language but I was mostly asking for a team for each since I know that they are both top tier

[old orchid]

i'm guiding you to getting used to this mode

[loud forge]

Of course ! I'm not sure how to access the pinned in channel like that on mobile but I will look it up as soon as possible

[old orchid]

because you will not always get helped immediately, and waiting for response might take a long time

+pins

[frozen depot]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[hushed burrow]

I can't even do 1.5k 😭

[left storm]

Not really

The Lussa one took 2 resets

Bianca and NC blue are always first try

Because they're broken

Solo with broken units is incredibly easier than 2v3 with seasonals

Last week's clear I did was much more egregious

[hushed burrow]

5 eggmons damn

[brave halo]

So I'm gonna guess idk drasna for this team next week? I'm not too familiar with palmer as it should be already obvious

Or wait should I instead use scsteven over argenta and use this team to go after wikstrom?

[left storm]

Palmer as solo DPS 1/5?

Yikes

Bring Hugh if he's exed over either of the two supports

[brave halo]

Actually I can reach 3/5 soon cause I'm at 19 strike coins

Lear reaching level 15 interaction will give me a strike coin

[left storm]

Idk if that's a good investment

But if you're a fan of him like me he needs both exR and 3/5

To really shine

[brave halo]

I mean I don't think I need the exr part since anabel has her exr for zone

[left storm]

His exR is for nuking

[idle warren]

(Ignore lillie) who else should I use here/what type of unit

I would use lenora but im saving her for another round

[supple reef]

that team doesn’t support Giacomo’s gauge enough idt

[idle warren]

Is this better

[brave halo]

Hmm why not try lodge dawn here maybe over ssblue? Keep annilillie tho cause steel zone assuming that was the focus for giacomo

[left storm]

Isn't will immune to drops anyway

[brave halo]

It isn't so much the drops but rather the spdef and speed buffs

I could say maybe ssmorty or something else big with speed buffs while buffing spdef but I'm not sure of their squad so had to go very basic that is a high chance they have

[mellow linden]

Sonia isn’t doing a whole lot on that team, tbh. If you want a Defense debuffer there’s stronger options

[brave halo]

Will has impervious

[mellow linden]

Right

So then Sonia’s basically a Potion-bot and there’s better options for that

Or you could do Physical Up appliers, Dark Zone/Dark Rebuff, etc.

This assumes you’re dead-set on off-typing

[supple reef]

Sonia there’s a speed bot if anything

[mellow linden]

My point of there being better options still stands

[idle warren]

So should I have like

Ss blue and lodge dawn/dawn & torterra

[mellow linden]

I think you roll with either SS Blue or Lodge Dawn unless you have no way to further boost Giacomo’s damage output available

And also assuming you’re dead-set on off-typing

[idle warren]

Hmm

Its just that this is round 2

And I wanna take advantage of the special dmg reduction for will

But all my ghost dps are special

Except morty

But he kinda sucks idk

[mellow linden]

All that parameter does is set Light Screen at the start, which is ignored by critical hits

Which your damage-dealers should be doing

[idle warren]

Ohhhhh

Wait

Are round effects the same as parameters

[mellow linden]

Round parameters are not the same as point parameters

[idle warren]

Oh

But this round still sets light screen though

Right

[mellow linden]

Yes

Which is basically meaningless for your damage output with proper teambuilding

[idle warren]

Okay I guess ill use ss emmett

[mellow linden]

If you have that guy then yeah, he’s gonna shred

[idle warren]

Who should I use with him though? Is he self sufficient with his interference/status

[mellow linden]

You may want to have someone else handle one of the 2 if you want him to spend fewer turns on setup

[hushed burrow]

What can I use with Glorialt to do koga