#Champion Stadium
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It's a points waste
fair enough
sure, but archies defenses are still made of paper
Still should tank with Hoenn spirit x2 + steel myth + maxed defs
Winona works perfectly well for csmm
Flinch + rain
i mean
sure
but i have 3 special units, and if im using ex kris + exr arc steven
thats a phys build
so im taking -spec params
air slash seems like gauge waste then

bc iron head flinches
and either way kris doesnt need flinch, so why not take the int immunity then
if the reason not to take archie for thunder para is not to waste gauge + free points
Especially since Steven ain't clicking iron head every turn
3 gauge for para
Is not the same
As 2 gauge for flinch
except that flinch is volatile
Winona has better gauge overall fyi
Para does nothing 95% of times
Flinch stuns 60% of times
so you have to keep reupping it as opposed to set it once and be done
you're seeing this backwards
Para has no value
Flinch skips turn
And can be reapplied
Same for sleep
Also as gakon said
Winona has muuuch better gauge
Speed
i mean
And self speed buffs
i always forget that 1/2 mp affects bmoves
was forced to learn that emojis take up like 20 extra characters so much less visually appealing but. heres this week
i might join @undone ether in making a spreadsheet for them instead - would you be ok with me taking a look at how you have yours set up?
Uh hold on
if not np
ok so you have it as just all csmm together rather than a tab for each region
ahh ok so in sequence
I do make a lot of data cells tbh
i might try to automate mine a bit more but
What parameters should I choose for 3k Phoebe?
Depends on team you are using and which round?
Hmmm
I was gonna do round 1 but looking at the rounds I could wait for round 2 since it would benefit NC Marnie which I’m gonna use
Phoebe is also a special attacker so it can harm you too!
Round 2 will power up her moves as well
do be aware phoebe also uses special attacks so it’ll also boost her
Ohh I see
I’ll make some teams for each of them and then send them here for feedback
Gl then.
I’m not the best at making teams but I came up with this
Don’t know if with the parameters it’ll change
Wait didn’t take to account that Barry is weak to ice
dragon and bug teams look great
marnie handles dark-weak just fine, lisia doesn't contribute much though
bp barry and morgan are... odd choices for riley
i'd go for a physical support to help him set up
I was gonna use Morgan for her T move but I realized that Riley already gets 6+ attack himself
BP Barry was there for the shield
Crit shield
i don't think glacia raises crit at all
the chances of getting randomly critted is very low
Ah it’s cus the boss hints said she does that sure crit
she does use a lot of special moves though, you might want AOE sp def buffer
hmm, i'm looking through fighting weak glacia's moveset and there's no sure crit or higher crit chance at all
unless i'm missing something, i'm sleep deprived
Weird then
Build Up
It’ll only occur after she Syncs
Which ideally you KO her before then since you’re using Riley
Ohhhh
Like who? Like someone who can give him that physical moves up effect?
Oh and I replaced Morgan for Oak and Nindorino
that could help. i was thinking since he takes 3 turns to max his offenses, i'd get someone to help with crit buffs
Oak already helps out with crit buffs + sp.def and special damage reduction
I didn’t know who to put so I chose Mc and Torchic
Now I just need to choose what parameters to get to 3k
4.4K Finish. Thanks again to those that helped me out with Sidney. Everything else was pretty easy, Phoebe took a couple tries to get it right. Next time going to try to aim for 5K
well done!!
ok this is jank until i can rig up my roster icon calling system but
@quartz iron there are a lot of different point strategies, but a couple of them can be found in the first pin in this channel/forum. But as a general bit of advice, I’d avoid HP params unless you’re going for a Poison Stall strategy
If you think you can clear before sync, you can safely take “Sync Buff Up” with no punishment at all
Came really close to rage quitting against Bertha but came up with this for 12K. I couldn't do 15K with the +6 atk but once removed made things much easier
BTW I'm not sure if I'm supposed to share these here or not so sorry in advance if not. First time trying out the special stadium
Getting ready for (hopefully) last week without flutter mane for ghost weak stages
I actually want fire weak stages
oh that looks good
next week glacia is fire weak
t's for phones, pretty cool
finally my Victini will shine
honestly, i put like Bertha (Steel), so i can search for them the entire way.
But I still haven't finished this week's stadium
i'm actually liking your setup for additional effects though 😮
can ya post those?
ofc! im still porting over the data before i build the back end, but i'm basically going to have a data validation dropdown to select the stage condition from using the shorthands ive developed for each one
oh yeah drop down~
+status
-stat
reflect
barrier
∞field
-faint
+special
+physical
+syncbuff
+gauge
that should do it
unless i'm missing something
... ykno if i were smarter/better at keeping them straight i would just do reflect/barrier dfjkgdfjhk
youre so much smarter
theres a few more tho
+effects (added effects) is the big one off the top of my head
I need help with sidney and glacia. I can't seem to find a dps for sidney and I don't have a terrain changer
theres also -sync for initial sync cd reduction
oh right
do you have your roster anywhere?
+tracker
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
it makes it easier for us to offer help if we know what you're working with
I have a ss but idek how to set that up
what is this? looks fun to do
im turning my stage clears thread into a spreadsheet bc of no nitro discord message character limits fgkjdfhj
ahh is this google sheets?
Geeta and Hilda have been used alr
idk how to work my way around sheets
what are the full teams youve already used?
yes, but once i finish it as a template i'll share the link for ppl to copy and fill it in for themselves most likely
yep.
so you can just clone that and input your data
awesome, looking forward to it, thanks!
also this is cs but ive also been penciling in my dcss template
Geeta, Hilda/Serperior and Karen/houndiom
Cryus/palkia, acerola/pallosand and hop/zamazenta
so i might update the cs template to match it a little better even tho i can retroactively find my /5s for cs
ok
you have darach, he's going to be your zone solution
you dont need to set a zone so much as overwrite sidney's zone
defog accomplishes that and helps with controlling his whole team's atk stat
awww
you should try building a team around your damage dealer too
for sidney, you want to offtype him
it wont be quite this segmented, just the 4 subsections instead of 3 as the change
Oh that makes sense
Who should I use to off type? Red?
there we goo/
It was a little awkward with them but yea I was trying lots of pairs
sidney's team is packing snarl
and red does not want to waste any ls on dauntless
if you hadnt used geeta already, she would probably be the best pick
as runner up, we probably want anniversary lillie here
so darach, anniversary lillie, and now for our support
What type is darach
you dont have great options for dual defenders (i.e. units who would raise both your def and spdef), but either roxanne with her grid tile for +spdef on tm or marlon who i believe has the same
sorry, was combing through your roster
is this hard mode or master mode?
Yea hard
unlocking master gives you enough for your first ex
Oh that's a old ss but I have Geeta and lear ex rn
and there are units that wouldve been exed if it was possible
oh
nvm then lmao
but still good to know its on hard
what types does your medal have thus far?
yeah hard is no problem then
this team doesnt have much wiggle room, but glacia probably we can get at least one additional type
I was thinking of using bea and farfetched for her
that should be fine and she can set herself up with inertia, so someone like lenora would be excellent for +spdef and dropping defense for even bigger meteor assault
youve used karen, so i think we bring viola as our third slot here since bug is always annoying and she can caoe debuff spatk
so that gives you at minimum poison, dark, [presumably grass from rosa/serperior but lmk if that was meant to be fire from hilda/emboar], dragon, ghost, steel, flying, rock, fighting, normal, and bug
11/18 should be easy enough to complete next week not counting anything you already have or whatever you'll use for steven
Bea and viola for glacia?
bea, lenora, and viola yes
For steven should I use lear and try to offtype?
you can
he is water weak and you have dahlia tho
if you bring the 'permanent field effects' added condition, you can set rain with her max move at the very beginning for infinite rain
her passive means every razor leaf will reduce defense by 2, which takes away aggrons defense multipliers
her max move will set water rebuff
at 1/5 she doesnt have much from her grid, but you can support her with any +def units (and some healing)
skyla is probably your best pick, but you do not want her to be the primary target/first tactic since she's rock weak
it looks good 😮
There is 2.5k params in the pins!
Check it out and add more params to make it 3k based on the teams!
Give it a try based on your understanding and if you find it difficult we will help you
Until now , I haven't really cared about eggmons but Seaking is actually decent. i used my two most broken supports , Definetly surprised he was able to 3k
Discord really ruined the quality.
penny’s victory line 😭
You should really get striker gyarados
That Eggmon has zekrom tier damage
I'll have to get a striker Magikarp then. Will keep in mind
is it this gyarados
strike Gyarados is Bluecanine without getting balanced
Yeah tech and strike gyarados are sick
Does that say "Hyper Beam"?
Striker has more damage, tech is better overall (flinch, still good damage, rain)
Yeah that's why he goes crazy
Is it 4 gauge or reduced?
4 ofc
All hyper beam units are gauge heavy
kinda wish my gyarados was male though, i dont like the female one’s white whiskers. was i just really unlucky with the gender ratio
Lance is just different because for an arc unit his impact and beams are pretty weak
I mean tbh , his normal moves aren't too good but his B Move does a lot of damage
He's like the most straightforward unit to play
hyper beam fr
Yeah I mean that's what 1 use buddies are meant to be
Him + Leon Alt have been helping me with CS On Type alot
Zekrom being slandered so bad
He has good nuke at 5/5 okayyy
Round 1 Glacia
Should I try different params? I’m able to kill off the sides but I die once Glacia does her double blizzard
You should avoid picking any hp and def params.
Also, you're missing some free points like interference immunity, sync buff, no stat reduction, both power of hit params, and can't change WTZ. This will be more manageable if you replaced strength params for any of the one's mentioned above.
Focus on mid and try to KO Walrein before it syncs. Glacia's Blizzard spam is annoying to deal with, you wanna KO as fast as possible.
Ty ! I managed to beat her thanks to this
tomorrow, hopefully we get infinite field effects
what should i add to the off type pre sync params to get to 3k points
depends on the team and the enemy
There’s no “one-size-fits-all” answer to 3k, you’re gonna have to experiment a bit yourself and see what works best for you
Depending on how new you are to Master Mode you may want to drop the points a bit rather than going for 3k immediately
are strength params easier than max hp
Generally speaking they give the opponent less survivability and/or bulk compared to the parameters that increase stats directly
Because Strength ^ is a flat increase while the ones that directly increase the stat are % increases
I can't beat Drake with Cyrus, Kiawe and Acerola
I need to change someone or off type
Well but if I use ARC Cynthia now, that means I will be vulnerable for Steven and Glacia
Replace Kiawe with who
also, I was thinking I could replace Acerola with SS Erika
Water is a stacked type, you should not struggle much against Steven
Cyrus has way better Water dps than Dragon, just bring a rain setter like May
Cobalt stop reacting and help me 😢
But I thought I have to remove rain
oh wait
you mean against Steven
Yes
So just use ARC Cynthia for Drake
He is literally helping you, by agreeing with the advice
Yup, even with the limited water types I have I was able to beat Steven with Nessa
A based choice, tbh
okay so I beat Drake with ARC Cynthia
finally
let's move on to Glacia
Let's see
I was thinking NC Hop
Then Riley
and Wally as my striker?
NC Hop + Riley is more than enough damage just the 2 of them
You’d want a Support to help those 2 spend fewer turns on buffing themselves
And if needed help the gauge
what about Maylene?
You don’t need to make a monotype team
what about Skyla?
You’d ideally want +1 or more crit + gauge assistance
But you can also experiment and see what ends up working best for you
I don't think I have someone who buffs both gauge and crit for the rest of the team
When I put these filters I only get Pheromosa, Swampert and mismagius
which buff themselves
None of them is a support
Just filter for supports you own and look at their moveset and passives
Gauge Support doesn’t mean Move Gauge Boost, generally speaking
That’s my bad for not clarifying, gauge Support generally means Speed buffs and/or Move Gauge Acceleration
Riley also buffs team speed, and NC Hop is pretty gauge friendly
Ah, wasn’t sure if Hop ate a lot of gauge or not, good to know
Falkner?
Can probably just do the +1 or more crit and be fine then
Try him then
It's not like I'm agreeing with you, i want you to do experiment to see if the options you bring up work or not
I don't do any damage
I need to check my parameters again
I realised I still have 3 very good supports that I haven't used yet
Chase, NC Bede and ARC Steven
2 of them are EX too
Maybe I could try NC Bede with Hop
A spdef buffer should work well enough
Glacia mainly spams special moves and Fighting weak stage is one of the weaker side
Try to clear with your existing EX first
From what i know about your roster, you can craft a great team
hmmm I think I'm onto it
Chase, SS Lyssandre, Skyla
no wait, I need a rain setter right?
That should do it
wait which fight is this?
ah yes stoven stene
she can boost ss lysandre’s moves with rain dance so she’s a good addition
I need to evolve her first


Suffering from success
fr lol
i cant use my killer fire team every week now bc there’s sometimes no fire weak stages and i won’t have a need to offtype
ss morty is too versatile
hmm it's not working
Might be param issue
no it's not, I used the preset for 2.5 pre
but I think I know what it is
I don't activate Lyssandre's TM
the one that gets activated with a burned pokemon
That's B Move
oh it's called B move
Try to inflict burn on every target and use it after the EX support sync
okay yeah
you might have to turn off the no status conditions param if that’s the case
so it's rng?
oh you're so right! I totally forgot about that
That's why you need to double check
yeahhhh, i accidentally left that param on and was wondering why i couldn’t burn the opponent, you definitely have to turn it off
what move level is your ss lysandre btw?
1
ah dang alright, guess i cant really help too much since my lysandre is 3/5 
you’ll probably need support ex then
that's why I picked Chase
Even at 1/5, rain + supp’s Sync should still delete the stage
His B Move just that strong
yeah ss lysandre should absolutely cheese
SS Lysandre is insane even at 1/5
i wish i knew that since i got him 3/5 from one scout 
but yeah his b move just destroys
Aggron is getting paralyzed for attacking Pikachu before getting burned
Then replace Chase or rely on dodges
I'm actually trying to do that, because I feel good about my team
and done
12k
it's not bad
each week I get more
ty for the help all
and now time to EX another pair!
Teams for next week , looking for feedback , drake team is very weird but I hope I can make it work
fuck ice weak drake and poison weak wallace, i am NOT ontyping that shit 💀
Whenever I see Ice weak Drake I just immediately think “all shall return to crab”
that crab didn’t help me last time
Anyone I should do or avoid on certain rounds?
+pins
phoebe r2 is usually advised against
Tbf I have Ice Zone and EX Hala
But depending on point value and specific team/parameters that may not matter
I still haven't done the Pasio stadium
Which trainers are best to off type? Because I think I only have like 1-2 steel strikers
Try out the video above for f2p 15k
Who’s a replacement for Bugsy and Scyther… cus I don’t got him
any physical support would work fine
How can I get more amount of damage? Debuffing the defense isn’t working. I can only get 800 damage and its not enough even changing the prem isn’t going to cut off
unfortunately base steven at 1/5 pretty much goes nowhere iirc
This is what i have left
she has sentry entrry x2.... you'll need a special attacker.
Sentry Entry x2 basically doubles the Physical Defense of anyone who has that passive.
and you don’t have to ontype btw
if you have strong off type damage dealers, use them
i dont have another iron type
that’s why you offtype if you have the damage dealers to be able to do so
not all your damage dealers have to be steel type
ok you sure about offtype? Because its not going to help that much
i off typed the entirety of the elite four, it’s pretty possible
i think ex kris or ss lysandre might be a better choice than 1/5 eusine
ss lysandre should cheese
I tried with all of them I die just before killing aaron
Maybe there’s something wrong here
Aaron?
The stevens Pokémon don’t remember name 😅
Agron something like that
Maybe I’m using wrong supports for kris
even at 1/5, i think ss lysandre can cheese
might have to try him + may + speed and defenses buffer
yes
you could also bring a spatk buffer for him alternatively
also turn off can’t change wtz if you’re gonna bring may for rain
What about skyla and bede
What should I take instead cause they already feel strong
try them out first, see how they work
i had params like these when i fought steven, though idk how different a non ex 1/5 lyssandre is, but he’s still worth trying to use. his bmove can delete a stage pretty easily
with rain + support ex, he should be able to just wipe pretty well with his b move
Half Ally MP is not a good param to select here
But his dmg is good not good enough
i only had half ally mp on since i used the perma field effects param with steven
What should I take cause if I take any more strength or power on hit I’m gonna die faster
but yeah, it might be different for everyone
I tried to offtype with nc cheren almost did it but still didn’t win
Who are the team members?
Nc cheren skyla and Brendan
Maybe the params where a bit off
Were*
Oh I did it I had wrong params with nc cheren I sync for 68k and win
What is the CS today?

Unintentionally perfect way to end Steven
this is what's coming for this reset.
updated
woohoo half sync

ewwwwww half sync 😷
Finally, some real fucking parameters
what the fuck is wrong with ghost weak phoebe this week
she did NOT hit that hard 2 weeks ago
lmfao get poison stalled wallace
Weak
Lmao I got surprised when she one shot my defenses buffed Steven with a singular sync move
she nearly one shot my leaf, i had to change params a bit 😭 and the aoe move spam was getting on my nerves
Half synced Wallace because I can lol
Too bad Cynthia decided to be funny and not crit vs Phoebe forcing me to reset when Phoebe’s sync DOES crit
it do be like that
How’s johto e4 compared to the rest in easy to hard clears?
and kalos ;o
everything that isn't hoenn or sinnoh
A fitting farewell to Hoenn 
I hate Glacia for ruining the full solo clear

He probably could have if it weren't for these abominations:
I'd love to be proven wrong though
This was easy except for Phoebe , Phoebe took me 2 hours , but the rest was done within a few tries. Goodbye Hoenn , no one will miss you
Congrats!!
Interesting choice for half sync btw. Is Nemona 3/5?
Nope , she's 1/5
And you presynced? I didn't know Nemona sync had that kinda oomph
Her buddy + sync and like
+7 PMUN
Hits hard
Right, PMUN stacks coming in clutch
I use it just to get the cd
Post Synced*
True

Nice! 
Tysm!
CSMM 15k budget edition
you really should start taking both 50 point reductions tbh since they’re bypassed by crits
Also , you have tech x3 damage , your Cynthia dies in one move
And skyla is a not ideal considering the enemy hits mostly specially
Since you're also helping Phoebe with ghost zone
And if you're having trouble taking hits , remove the Atk up 5 for more defensive Params since Cynthia should have no problem ploughing through her
I definitely do damage now but I always die to her sync move
Still can’t beat it, this is my ghost roster it’s very limited on what I can do tho 😞
You have selected all offensive params!
Try these!
Remember these are not from the guides here!
It's just the setup I like to use!
Make necessary adjustments for Physical/Special Damage dealers,
Tech sync pairs
Wtz
It can allow you to survive the sync! But not too long after sync move!
The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction are a free 100 points total, as both are ignored by critical hits (which your damage-dealers should always be getting)
Since you have SSR Cynthia Victor + Spectrier is kinda redundant, you could try a different Ghost damage-dealer such as gridded Shauntal/gridded Helena/gridded Fantina
And adjust the Support accordingly
Should I grid Helena with Sync Nuke or Shadow Ball Grid for it? I’m thinking Victor, Helena, and Melony could work
I more meant replacing Victor + Spectrier with the 2nd Ghost damage-dealer
But if you wanna do that team then Sync nuke grid for Helena
Ohhh
Yeah I don’t think I can do this.. I keep dying to her ult 
as you can see here uninvested v sawyer which you have can give screens on TM
which may help you live a sync but you have to take off attack and special attack +5
and it looks like you didn’t take off tech 3x damage either
so SSRC would become super squishy
Oh I did take it off
can you show your current parameters
also if SSRC has no ex role she can’t get sides with sync
meaning you have to time your shadow forces well
or they clean you up with spread moves
idt you want to greed for the support EX sync buff since you still take too much damage
Mhm
mmm, how about going for a presync parameter build instead of postsync
2/5 ssr cynthia doesn't have all her nuke tiles so giving phoebe too much bulk may go against your favor
take off def and spdef +3
how much damage does a shadow force do with your parameters
Just cleared the parameters but I remember one hitting 12k with super effective ^ effect
So should I sync the sides first ?
kill mid with sync then shadow force into the sides
mid should die in 2 syncs but you have to quadqueue
and don’t click shadow force before that as it denies quad
I hadn't used hleon in a while, forgot that giving him SEUP in hail makes his glacial lance almost oneshot the stage
Based EX Dana NGL
based
Also in csmm 1/5 sawyer do be pretty tanky
Just wish aggravation wasn't 3/5...
My closest run so far 😭
1 thing I want to point!
This is R3 so sync buffs are more effective! You should sync first with an Ex Support to get more boost!
Or it doesn't matter?
Nope, even if I had sync buffs i still die to her ult
Hmm
Is your renegade 1/5?
2/5
You shouldn't struggle too much with Sawyer anyway, must be a parameter issue
Anyone else want 3.5k in the next major CS update? 
3k is still too easy even if I retired from doing 4k pts.
I don’t know what off type I use but I have to use water. And it’s not working
Trying to lower its sp def
When offtyping use two damage dealers instead of one!
It will benefit you more than SpDef debuffs
You should also check your parameters
It lowk might be a skill issue for me 😖
I'd love 4k if we get new params
3.5k is kinda awkward unless you use only limiteds atm
Yes, let the new players suffer
Are you running all STR?
no
STR?
Strength
Oh the yes
well if you’re offtyping you can’t take standard damage reduction 8, that’ll be a start
So take turn off standard?
Turn it off immediately
Also don't need to take def up on top of strength param
No status condition is free
And as someone pointed out earlier, using another Water dmg dealer works better than Lucian, not to mention being able to get a free 100 pts param
But that means, I’ll not make them flinched or getting trap
Those are status changes (affected by Interference Immunity), No Status Conditions disables stuff like poison, paralysis, burn.
You can't trap or flinch them when you take the no intereference param only
Can you show me your param so I can copy it down?
Your params are fine, just do the changes we suggested
Disable Standard Damage Reduction 8 (you have it enabled, this is an 80% reduction on offtype damage)
Turn on No Status Conditions and 250 points of other parameters to compensate. Depending on your team No WTZ can be a free 150 points
Otherwise run your parameters as is
HP down can also be free points if you have a defensive support or are presyncing
if this is the SS Mina Eusine team then you probably go the HP down route
No weather? So no rain?
I didn’t have the full context so keep the rain, you could compensate with extra damage received parameters or HP down and presync, Mina is a solid defensive tank so she can help your team if they start the battle at half HP
Think I’m just gonna do this without master mode for now and try with a different round on master mode
still running postsync parameters? try using the 2.5k presync params on pins and add a bit of strength
Champion stadium is ROUGH this week. 😢
Nope I changed it to pre sync I believe
hmmm I notice you couldn't sync twice before Phoebe syncs
can you quadqueue?
+quadqueue this allows you to sync twice before phoebe syncs once
Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!
The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.
Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :
- If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
- If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)
17 seconds · Clipped by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters) · Original video "Sinnoh CS 2k Aaron Fire w/ Flannery" by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters)
Hey a fellow oak janine and Lucy user
here were my clears, poison stalling just deletes the poison weak stages lmfao
This week has the shittiest 1st round rule: quicker sync for both enemies and us.
half sync is just poo
As a pre syncer myself
I wanna kill them all asap
But when they get sync fast too
I die first
It's ok in the worst scenario my poison stall team can clutch I hope
But first round is lit the hardest ironically this week
It doesn't matter who it is. This stupid sync rule
I'ma try Steven if he can clutch this sync rule. He's supposed to be THAT good right? Haha
alright got my “teams” planned for next week, ive never completed a johto stadium before so my teams look SO stupid rn 😭 i’m trying to make this harder for myself by not being able to repeat a type
and i wasnt trying to synergize the teams lol
johto's stages aren't too hard, so these teams should reasonably work fine. Koga's stages do prove annoying sometimes though
yeah i heard fire weak koga was one of the more annoying stages. i cant brute force him with my killer fire team at all this month, sad
Flying Weak also is on the harder end because it (effectively) has Sentry Entry x2 on the mid and Wise Entry x2 on the sides
what 
2x and not 2??????
yeah they have doubled stats rather than just having the passives
but they also have relatively low HP so it's not the biggest deal
how annoying, guess i’ll just have to nc cheren brute force them then
Ice Weak has an evasion gimmick but only buffs evasion post-sync so that should be fine, and Ground Weak is just a stage
but fire and flying weak koga are the hardest stages of Johto CS iirc
somehow i gotta delete ice weak koga with ghetsis before he can sync then 
gtk about ground weak koga though since ground weak stages were never my strongest point
Hostile Environment 1 poison jab, no other gimmick
and what’s the deal with poison weak will
he has hostile environment and sludge bomb
terrain gimmick and he can poison you, but he also has lower than average HP
and the terrain is Green Thumb so you can just never encounter it
most johto CS stages are just not really issues, it's only Fire and Flying Weak Koga that have annoying gimmicks from memory
It's fine if you have a half decent roster
Or have a stage that fits either
- silver
- event victor
- Riley
- cyrus
For new accounts
As all of them can delete stages before they act 3 times
Mix Blue really makes the Fire Glacia stage so much easier...
I WAS SO CLOSEEE
You don't onetap sides with shadow force?
I can but I wanted to see if I could kill phoebe first
I use Shadow force after I sync right?
The idea is using shadow force after to kill her yea
unfortunately i can still only sync once
Well ideally you sync on mid
Shadow force, kill mid
Shadow force, kill side
Shadow force, win
Ideas for main strikers and I'll try to build around them:
Sidney: NC Marnie
Phoebe: SC Irida
Glacia: SS Hilda
Drake: ARC Cynthia
Wallace: ??? Oak Nidorino? Plumeria?
how do these sound?
Potentially I could save either Cynthia or Marine for Wallace but I don't think my fairy or ice strikers are that strong
For Sidney I can use SS Wally and BP Valerie but I just don't really think Valerie can do damage
And my only ice striker for Drake is Hala
Wallace looks v toxic stallable, especially with the status amp round parameter locked to that fight
If your tank has flame charge, you can thaw at will
...Actually it seems most or all fire supports can self thaw (and if it's Morty, Sun blocks freeze teamwide as well)
Couldn’t do it and just caked Cynthia
I beat it after I caked her though
Hey all. Kinda new. Getting destroyed on champion stadium. Here's my roster please help.
Thanks in advance
Eat it you.
15k but one of the worst week that was more frustrating than rally. I had much easier time with Pasio Special.
We're back to the Johto League next week, so that's an easy month
THANK GOD.
I lit started playing this game at the worst timing with Champion Stadium (Alola, Sinnoh, Hoenn) but at the best timing with sync pair pulls (anniversary).
have you beat hard mode yet?
have fun with flying and fire weak koga though 
and let’s not forget ghost weak will’s stats literally can’t be lowered 
Another fire?
AND flying?
I lit do have units for those but they SUCK butts at 1/5
flying and fire weak koga are pretty notorious for annoying gimmicks too
Red charizard and Anni Skyla
if you didn’t complete the medal for johto yet, you don’t have to worry about 3king fire weak koga. he’s the first week of the stadium and he’ll never be fire weak again for the rest of the stadium
OH YEAH
i forgot
i dont have to worry for first 2 weeks
i only have to worry the last 3 weeks for ALL
though i still think his defenses rising every time you HIT him is annoying 🗿
i'm new here. I forgot
But Sinnoh and Hoenn 18 types completed!
Alola i finished like 10types... and just finished it at that. That was the dark days when I didn't even TRY after frustration w gen pool syncs...
i only 15ked alola and sinnoh once 🤡 hoenn was the first time i 15ked all my csmm runs
i personally have a grudge against steel weak bertha, dark weak lucian, and fairy weak hala now 
so i started getting continuous 15k after getting all the arc syncs lol which is hoenn. I got ecstatic when I got a 3K w arc cynthia in sinnoh once.
it was the most euphoric feeling from i dont even touch CS noob to WOW I can do this feeling.
but this week made me almost think arc syncs weren't enough. but i got by...
your first 15k is one of the best feelings of poma imo
i was over the moon when i had my first 15k clear
god i can't imagine building up from pulling master fairs/pokefairs and building roster to get to that.
i just got lucky i started playing this just a month before anniversary happened.
but yeah my 15k exp this month was .... one of the best feelings
Are you trying to tackle hard mode or MM?
They have the best in the world

Is this for hard mode or MM?
Hard mode
Okay so you wanna pick 5 damage dealers and build your teams around them. Are you familiar with the type medal?
Are those the one to unlock MM
Yes
Am 12/18 rn
Would you be able to fill this in to let us see what you have available to use?
+tracker
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
All of them😄 i haven't beat a single one yet
I meant like, in terms of characters you own right now
Ita okay you don't have to send them again
Oh oop, didnt see those
Here's what you can do:
SS Red + Blaine + Support vs Glacia
Hala + Skyla + Mina vs Drake
Elesa + SS Lear + any 3rd vs Sidney
Anni Lillie + Oak + any 3rd - Phoebe
Nita + Geeta + any 3rd vs Wallace
This covers all remaining types too
I would recommend farming and using Giovanni against Phoebe and using a character like Blaine against Phoebe instead of Lucian, it should make life a bit easier
If you can farm up Giovanni (you should), what Mex recommended will work even better
Just use Giovanni for Phoebe and replace Lucian for Blaine with SS Red
@stiff wing
Gotcha I've been trying Blaine and ss red but she's not taking much damage
Are you fully buffing Red's offenses?
You might wanna bring someone to help with his buffs, so a sp atk and/or crit buffing support would work well
I used elesa for spa
She works, SS Lear doesn't need any help at all so you can just put any fodder pair with him and he's good
She'd heal back all the damage too
Are you making sure you replace Hail with Blaines Sunny Day
Si
You need to replace Hail on the first turn. Glacia has a passive that heals her when she attacks under hail.
Oh okay I'll try again ina bit after I get gio
Also make sure to replace Hail both times, at the start, and then one move before Glacia sync
Oh and replace Oak on the Phoebe team with someone who can buff sp atk for Giovanni
They're too squishy and they're dying even with the sun up
i couldn't follow the convo, so i don't know who are you using
if she hits too hard, you should bring a spdef buffer
yeah might need to replace Elesa
Just make sure to fit Elesa into one of the other teams (preferably with Geeta or SS Lear) since you need to register Electric
Yea i understand I'll add lenora and see if that helps
Another option for Glacia is getting Silver from legendary adventures
Silver would probably work better honestly
I beat her and am fighting drake rn
Nice 
After I kill the flygon I'm too slow to keep getting my move bar back and that's killing me
who are you using
Hala, Skyla and mina
She's 3/5 now and how should I grid her
grid her like this at very least: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1600/58100?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=18040702&g=AAECAwQFExQVGCYo
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Got it
Another small tip, after mid goes down, you can stop queueing moves with other pairs. Just let Hala clean up with Ice Hammer.
Yuppers I figured
I got tired of Glacia and Drake both, but at least I finalized the 15K
Wow Lear is so cool btw
Hey all, as a 1 week old player.... what should be my aim for the champ stadium? What could I realistically achieve? I assume it mainly based on what I have available to use
you should try to register ~10 types or more into the type medal
Your Silver and your Blue & Pidgeot?
Had a struggle on a couple of the matches but was able to get the clear for this week. Next week being a new region is going to be awkward in terms of maximising the number of badges I can get in one go
15 in a week is your max possible outcome
Good news though
Johto is much Easier than Hoenn
Eh, top 5 Steel attackers are more like a Top 3. I'll off type the rest
You can clear CSMM with just those 14 units
Hard mode
Hard mode
And how's your progress for Type Medal?
I honestly don't know what those words mean 😅
Champion Stadiums has 2 difficulty modes: Hard Mode and Master Mode. To unlock Master Mode you need to complete Hard Mode while using Pokemon of all 18 types (can be done in 2 weeks as a minimum - 18 types).
Celesteela can DPS 3k not even joking
Have you cleared any of the stages yet?
This
#1009554906568462476 message
I think you can check it by clicking Hall of Fame
(just know that hall of fame is only accessible if you've cleared Hoenn CS at least once)
Another option is going to the team selection menu through CS, Type Medal is shown on bottom right
No because I am terrible at team building and don't want to play it manually I want to auto 🤣
Realized coming from summoners war this game is very much not autoable
you absolutely don’t want to auto this
the ai in this game is incredibly stupid anyways and doesn’t take the helpful gimmicks into account
Teambuilding is an integral part of this game. You're pretty much gonna have to learn the basics of it if you want to see any measure of success even in the easiest of endgame modes - Champion Stadium is one of them.
And, no, this is not going to be possible to clear on auto.
Doesn't even triple queue let alone actually countering enemy gimmicks and such
it really only considers enemy weakness and things like that
the ai dont give a shit about team synergy
Can I 3k?
should be doable with nemona
she's physical though yeah? so you want a good physical support instead of chase
Like who?
I tried but the middle Pokémon feels too tanky I tried taking off hp etc still feels nemona can’t clear fast enough
Bruh. Johto's a joke compared to what we've been getting these months with Sinnoh and Hoenn. Their Sentry and Wise Entries are almost non-existent.
Well always happy to see I'll get easier time next month.
just beware of koga lol
what are your params looking like?
for the purposes of csmm, are silver and ho-oh servicable even without grid expansion? im using him with 3/5 lyra and 2/5 gordie
..maybe im doing something wrong then
sacred fire straight up deals like
300 dmg
overheat does like 6k
HE'S PHYS??
And his sync is physical too
😭 thank you
this still feels impossible
Which E4 should be battles first
Check the pins for recommended fights to avoid on specific rounds, otherwise the order isn’t very important outside of half-Sync rounds being something you want to plan very carefully
Nothing Steven Can't Solo 
steven is too goated
Gladion didn't care that I accidentally set the Special Reduction 8 parameter
Screenshot too early but that was oneshot lol
You never disappoint, @sick inlet
Grad healing wasn't a problem?
not an issue if she doesn't get to attack much anyways
I cleaned sides first so I can just perma stun mid 
So at the start just focus down sides then toy with Glacia?
Also did you pick more pot mpr/master healer tiles?
Pretty much, while I would bet you can do it the normal way, this way is easier vs opponents that take longer to die
Actually just 1 mpr node
I believe
Let me check
1 node only
I only used 1 mpr anyways
anyone who can give PMUN would be nice. what are your params? maybe that's the issue
While more than 3k is possible on this same stage, 4k would probably need more cheese/luck, this one didn't need any resets from me
Ouf
Oak Cheese
I need to use Oak
I am yet to use that Oak
You should!! His grid is soo good for stalling. Didn't even have mpr gridded for this run. Gonna try vs Glacia later 
Oak is finally getting the recognition
Same
Any recommendations for round order in the special stadium?
fuck it we ball n see wat works
Done lol
Big GGs
Can someone help me figure out how to do this glacia r1 fight? I feel like my silver can beat her without expansion but idk
What team were you trying to do
- You’d probably want to run Blaine + Rapidash as an additional Sun setter so you can have some on-demand casts.
- Is there any particular reason you’re set on doing Glacia specifically for round 1? Depending on your roster you may find it easier to do the half-Sync round on someone else.
There’s no particular reason other than I feel like it may be harder to beat her with the later rounds
Ill try it with blaine tho, ty
No luck still lol
Even though I have sun on demand
Should I just get rid of lyra
I think Gakon suggested doing so already
Yeah but I thought that was because I didnt have any sun setter
Ik, im just wondering if I should still slot in lyra
Honestly think im gonna have to off type
What's your fire options?
You can also face Glacia on a later round since it means you’ll have more time to beat her before she Syncs
And rounds 2 and 4 have effects that’ll boost Silver’s damage
Sorry, rounds 2 and 3
Oui 4 gives speed
Hmm yeah good point
Hmmmm i think red can out dps Silver when not expanded
Red always wins on dps, expanded Silver or not, the difference is in the sync move
Silver is gonna win there, with Red being 1/5 and all
How much my +6 Atk +6 Sp Atk 3/5 EX SSR Cynthia does on sync vs Phoebe r2
Do you have Physical Damage Reduction 8 on by mistake?
Nope, that was the first thing I checked.
Could have failed to crit then
Picture shows crit strike 2. Bug?
No, it just means you failed to crit the center while critting one or both sides
Critical Strike pops up if any opponent is crit by an AoE
Should I switch out Lenora for someone who can max out Lillie’s attack and crit? The closet I’ve gotten to killing Red is when I left him at 15% before he synced, most of times I have to reset because Lillie herself won’t crit on her attacks
Are you syncing with Skyla first?
No
I don’t think I would be able to kill Red in time
If you're syncing with Lillie you're going to want her crit at +3
(since sync moves have an inherent -1 to the crit rate)
You can grid Sharp Entry on Lillie
And if you can quad queue syncing with Skyla first would also max out Lillie's atk
But swapping Lenora is also okay
Someone like Oak or 3/5 Tierno would work best for faster speed debuffs, or you could bring someone with -1 sync cd to skip a full turn paired with Lillie tm
i feel like there's no way im beating this csmm, i dont have good units for any of their weaknesses
even with cynthia im struggling to off-type phoebe
Can you share your params?
Phoebe asks you to remove her positive buffs, which can be handled easily by Event Victor
You also get 100 free pts by picking the +3 stats for the enemies, because you erase them immediately
I just have the standard off type params
Do you think victor could handle an on type battle as the main dps
Yes but dealing with sides might be hard if they spam aoe, I usually pair him with fantina for f2p clear. Nuke the mid, then 2 shadow balls to clear sides
I dont have fantina but ill give victor another shot
Never let the past haunt you
Phoebe uses dead creatures to haunt you
You're better than that
You can use Giovanni as a Ghost dps
Off topic but I really hope that A Shedinja with wonder guard unit releases
That's kinda pointless? Since it would have 1 hp?
Or i guess they really gonna change it up
Best tank until enemy Sync 
dies to weather
I mean they can make it like DC mons
Untouchable even with synd
Sync
Like it does 0 dmg
Unless ontype
Only get dmg by 1 type is broken tho
Kinda unfair in this game
In main game it has uhhh how many weakness ?
5
Maybe they'll make a unit
Where you can damage it like normal
Immune to everything
But it only dies to SE
Ontype
So lets say it has 20k hp
You deal 20k to it
Then 1hp you need to ontype it
Or it never dies

Sync Endure 9 
Fire
Rock
Flying
Ghost
Dark
But msg had sand + Hail (rip) and status spam without accounting k-off being on 50% of the population since gen 6
3 of those 5 types are also insanely common in competitive
Offensively
Fire rock dark?
I imagine
I also apologize for the offtopic
Please feel free to ask about Champion Stadium here 
yes about champion stadium, next week is johto 
I only accept help request from who struggling to beat Koga
|| (in all seriousness this is a joke
i always try my best helping everyone) ||
jokes on everyone, fire weak koga is the week i dont even have johto csmm unlocked
bc i dont have the medal filled out at all!
Fortunately Johto CS is way easier than Hoenn CS
The only real restrictive gimmick is like, Flying weak Koga with “Wise Entry x2 before it was cool”
Which is a bit of a joke these days since Lodge Skyla is 100% free
if i was able to 15k every week of hoenn, surely i can 15k every week of johto yeah? 
Melissa has NC Cheren , they'll be fine
Almost certainly
Guys I’m gonna try to do the event stadium this is my current steel roster can I get at least 2 teams for the event and then maybe offtype the others?
5/5 arc Steven is crazy
Yeah I used all my luck there didn’t get any other pulls I wanted except pity
Steven solo can 3k
Can u suggest me some teams to try?
Yea just thinking rq
I don’t know a ton about some of these units but
MC/Solgaleo + Lillie/Solgaleo + Colress can probably do well
there’s no support in that team
Maybe swap MC for someone with gauge and/or debuffs actually
I was thinking doing 3 teams with 3 steel attackers and offtype supports
Lowkey forgot colress wasn’t a support 😭
Like lilie one team mc solg other team etc
That’s smart
I’m kinda new to this so take this with a grain of salt but
What about colress + lillie + event oak?
It’s fine ur still helping

