#Champion Stadium
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Try Sonia
Just noticed Argenta. Go with her instead.
Ok so I don’t think the pre sync works cause n takes 2 turns to attack
But still does like 8k when attacks
Is this good? Maybe for hail to get rid of sandstorm
Yeah, try this. Level Candice to 120, use Hail as your first move.
I'm honestly not too sure on whether N can clear this. If it doesn't work, you can look into off typing or stalling.
The team has enougu bulk to take one sync, and you can use Argenta's Max Guard to nullify dmg once
Do you have Hala as backup plan?
2/5
Yeap 2/5
Would Hala work for 2.5k?
Should be. Haymaker is unlocked at 2/5
So I try with this team on pre sync preset then if I lose try hala?
Should I grid candice?
No, all she needs is level 120
Ok
And yes
Yeap didn’t work so about hala what’s the strat?
Replace Argenta with a gauge and defensive support
I feel like n can’t do it he attacks so slow
Yes because his attack takes 2 turns
You can win with him by using post sync with adjustment to the support
Should I try poison stall with morty janine Lucy?
Then on reset I try with better supports cause I used them already
Try what Gakon suggested first.
Use the on-type post sync params. Replace tech x 3 dmg for Interference Immunity and Physical Dmg Reduction for Special Damage Reduction.
And instead of Argenta bring either Sonia, Hop, BP Morty or Skyla (someone who can buff team defense and has potions).
I tried it but died again I poison stall it now on to wallace
Should I replace dawn? Or someone?
should not matter because of SS Lyra
Post or pre?
you can figure it out by yourself
Ok thanks for the tips and help guys
i really should have been around during 4th anni huh
Is Leaf gridded for Adr?
you can replace Candice with Winona
she is
You should reach 2nd sync before enemy in that case
idek anymore, i dont even wanna try anymore atp, idk if im using the wrong moves or what, i cant reach the second sync in time
Do this. Rain + Winona passive will help with gauge. And as long as you're consistently queuing 3 moves, you will get to a 2nd sync.
is there any grid i should be following for winona?
Air Slash MGR + Aggravation should be enough
dude i cant fucking time anything right, i didn’t even make it to the second sync
Can you show Leaf's grid?
adrenaline is crucial if you can't quadqueue
Also, you can save one of Leaf's TMs for after her sync if guage is too slow
Do you need the potion MPRs?
If not you can replace them and Ramped Up for Tackle MGR and Staggering
how is your Hala's grid?
also, i think that you haven't posted your params here, they might be the problem too
i kind of do rely on the potions especially if everyone decides to earthquake spam 
Swap Hala's grid to this
melissa's is 3/5 so she can take sync tiles
I remembered 2/5 from roster ss my bad
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/16100/74000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=17010201&g=AAECAwQFDA8RFBUYGygrLS4 i would use this. can save his TM for his sync
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
for SEUN
I'd use Hala as a DPS while Candice nukes
i sync with leaf first so i can only hope i make it to the 2nd sync 
syncing with Leaf first is the good choice
What's your move order to start?
and idk what moves to queue either since i use everyone’s tms right off the bat (except the weather changer)
rain dance -> leaf tm -> hala tm
for Hala it's Dire Hit once, then start attacking while Leaf uses her TM
Why Winona? Maybe the weather and flinch, but Candice might do more
grid Berserk Bunch 1 to cover for atk buffs on Hala until he uses his TM before his sync
Especially because Hala has multipliers under hail
that could work, but the strat requires investments on Candice
4* and full grid at leasy
least
if melissa can afford it, it's not a bad option
i dont even remember what grid i have on candice
and what grid can i run on leaf for berserk bunch?
Wouldn't it be easier to pick 2 Sync nodes instead of Super Prep and work around SEUN? Leaf can pick MGR instead of Berserk Bunch. 3/5 Hala DPS + nuke should be enough even without the SEUN.
They can manage guage with the correct move order
I don't think the damage is lacking. Just that queuing consistently is a problem.
Something like:
Rain - Leaf Tm - Hala TM
Air Slash - Tackle - Dire Hit+
Winona TM - Tackle - Ice Hammer
Having Leaf's and Winona's TMs for later will let Hala use gauge for 2nd sync cycle.
there’s also the sides and their damn earthquake spam
sigh, i wasnt lying when i said 15king this stupid stadium is gonna be impossible since this week tackles all of my weaker rosters
ice hammer can't twoshot sides?
im focusing more on trying to ko drake
Hala's nuke isn't enough to KO Drake post support EX?
see if his nuke + 1 ice hammer is enough to KO
so that hala can spend his turns ice hammering sides (if gauge allows, that is)
that’s the fun part, i dont even make it to the 2nd sync before drake sync kills everyone
uhh
is it because you can't triplequeue consistently
with Leaf's adrenaline you should make it to 2nd sync just fine, given that your triplequeue is consistent
yeah sometimes i have problems triple queuing, especially when i’m trying to ice hammer spam on hala
Are you running Winona or Candice?
they both have similar speeds
Winona can help with flinch, while Candice can help with DPS (her DPS is shit but at least it's there)
winona
oh yeah sometimes this stupid queue on the right happens 🗿 im done with this damn fight i hate this
That's an odd queue order. You should have air slash last
tried to follow something like this 
well this was the closest i got
stupid old man still managed to sync
Something like this. I hesitated a little and ended up having to queue Dire Hit+, but if you Potion on Leaf and are quick to queue Winona's move, you could squeeze in another Ice Hammer there.
alright thanks, ig i’ll try this later in the morning, i dont wanna stay up doing this
though i feel like it also depends on whether the sides queue in earthquake bc it feels like a guaranteed ko
3k MM is kinda RNG reliant, no arguments there. Especially the tougher regions.
yeah true, idk why i have my expectations set up so high knowing 3/5 of the battles this week are weak to my weaker rosters. sighhhhh smh
Its alright. Try again after a break. If it gets too much, no harm in lowering the pts a little. Your sanity is worth it.
What's the parameters here?
this, probably
Hmmm
If there is struggle with quadqueing
Should use rain in the second turn cycle instead of first
Leaf is gridded for Adr. They're having issues triple queing consistently and not making it to 2nd sync.
he has wise entry x2
do you have hala
yeah
what move level
I think 4
can you ex him
I was gonna ex like 3 other people first
ok. i need ex for arc cyn sooner rather than later. so.
trying to figure out where that poison unit fits tho... eugh
not drake bc i want to set hail
maybe on glacia?
maybe oak/nido tanks glacia?
glacia also wants a weather change
huh...interesting
thought this would be an easy 15k week for once but im having a liiiiitle difficulty
pretty sure I have the power, even if my units are a bit old
which fight are you struggling with?
Current obstacles: Fairy weak Sidney and Ice weak Drake
maybe you need to tweak you parameters
What's the team and params?
team: Gardiantha, Lodge Lillie, Sycamore
Clef Lillie also occasionlly replacess the non diantha units above
i would replace Sycamore
he and Diantha fight for first sync
you don't need to build monotype teams
yeah, you basically need to reset if Sidney throws Close Combat
yeah CC HURTS
but my theme skills 🥺
but yeah i figured as much
theme skills don't matter at all
it would have been nice to just slap ss dawn up there for the easy defense
but dark weak x.x
do you have any Fairy Zone setter?
no
then bring a spdef debuffer
i brought sc jasmine once
she doesn't buff defense
correct
the physical side wore her down
but she does get to 3x sp.d
wait, you said sp.d debuffer
okay uhh...lets see
how is lenora?
do you have Lucian?
he has atk debuffs, as well as speed buffs for the whole team
which is appreciated by Diantha
never used him but he's 2/5, will tht be enough?
its not the end of the world but man i always forget how trash my ice roster is until i have to actually use said ice roster
lucian is so fun
yeah you only need him to spam Growl
flint is a terrible unit so that the other 3 members of the sinnoh e4 could have amazing kits
I am following this comment's advice in regard to Drake's battle now since I cannot get this 3K to go through on Drake with my ice units.
ahh thats the other thing
If you want send your ice units and we can try to come up with something
oh boy i cant wait to bring hail to counter sandstorm
wait why is glacia have a weakness warning
iron head inbound
sides have steel
And you need physical units too
candice blech
I recommend Candice as the nuker and Hala to DPS the sides
which is a problem because if center flinches, the sides attack
i love u sinnoh i hate you early pmex sinnoh units who got absolutely atrocious kits
with steel
Hala can also weaken Drake
woooooof
get a damn good speed buffer, the gauge suffers
flint is an early game victim fr
Why not just use Candice's TMs?
it still won't help if Hala needs to spam ice hammer every other turn
one of her TMs uses 3 guage if queue at the wrong time
Yeah
I’m struggling pretty hard with finding out how to do Master Mode of the stadium. Is there any way I can do it with this current roster? (if it wasn’t obvious, I’m very new)
you should show us your pairs' move level next time
Oh, oops-
you can start looking at your roster and choose a dmg dealer for each round
stage info can be found in the pins here, you can use it to choose the most suited options
Hoenn CS is one of the hardest region, so i highly recommend studying the opponents carefully
Ah crap
The main thing that confuses me is the options for how to nerf you for more points. Is there any, like, guidelines for what to pick for certain strategies?
yes, the pins also have guide for that
starting with 850 pts is a good idea, since you can get all meaningful rewards with 5 850 pts battles
Alright. How do I access the pins on mobile?
+pins
Glacia: Silver/Blaine duo
Sidney: SS Nemona
Drake: may have to offtype
Phoebe: same to Drake
Wallace: SS Erika
Can Arc Lance/Arc Cynthia off type either of those 2?
Alr. Just one last question; what pre-sets are recommended for each of those fights?
it depends on your playstyle and the team itself
for example, if you team does not have much bulk, better aim for pre sync (clear the battle before opponent' first sync) set
OHH, that’s what that means, okay
I guess it’ll mostly depend on how good my supports are (I hope pulling for Rika was a good call, cuz I like her, and I need supports)
Did you mean 4,250? Cuz I did 850 on every battle and I got 4,250 points total, not 5,850
Sorry, i should have said more clearly. I meant 5 battles with 850 pts
That’s what I did, yeah
OH, wait
I read the message wrong 🤣
My bad
Thought there was supposed to be a comma between the 5 and the 850
If you didn't find it much challenging, next you can try with slightly more score like 1000 per stage!
Glacia was decently annoying since she spams AoE moves a lot, and my teams aren’t exactly equipped to deal with so many Blizzards to the face, but the rest of them weren’t too bad since I had broken units for all the rest of them
Plus Lucky Skills have been kicking my ass, cuz I don’t get how Villa works and they keep not being what I need for the units (I’ve been reading the Sync Grid/Lucky Skills/Tier List Google Doc cuz my friend sent me it as a good way of understanding those mechanics)
Battle Villa is easy!
Give it a read https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1009417207391985754
Can anyone help with Glacia?
I've only started playing a few weeks ago as a F2P and I'm getting my teeth kicked in by all her blizzards + her huge HP pool and self heals
I can do about 3k damage per attack (with recoil) using Hilda, F2P Oak and Blaine but she just keeps outlasting me since my heals run out by the time her sidekicks die
If I had Red I probably could've done this but I chose Blue instead
Brother, Glacia was half HP and she just does one blizzard after 2nd Sync and one taps me
Is Hilda gridded at all?
Yeah she was
Dw tho I finally beat Glacia by using Flame Wheel more often and taking less recoil damage so my heals were saved for the 3v1
With Standfast 9 gridded the recoil damage should be neglectable
Seems like you're lacking good on-type options for the Dark, Ice and Grass stages
I was able to do 3k Wallace with SS Erika.
For Dark I poisoned stalled
And Ice I just swept with Arc Cyn
Glacia is where I had trouble
Poison Stall
You can definitely put him to better use
I wasn't surviving at 3k for long enough and Lucy/Janine died followed by the support. Arc Stevens Triage Tank and Potion+ Sync Move Healing helped me outlive
It may even be possible to off type Glacia with Steven + Anni Lillie. Maybe.
Maybe I haven't fully gotten the concept of poison stalling.
+Hop maybe?
Colress or *someone to change weather would be better
Can you candy BP Morty to 3/5?
Nope
A good defensive tank with recovery, like 3/5 Skyla for example
Only 2/5 and no candy
Plus I've seen her mostly go for shadow ball.
I forgot , is her sync special or phy?
Phoebe? Physical
Stage has both Phys and special moves
Here is the requirement when you want to look for a stall tank
Hop is more like an offensive support, you can try him but it might take a lot of attempts because his recovery is not strong as Skyla's
What if I go for a special tank with great recovery and use round 4 param
R4 param will wear off around your first sync, but you can give it a go
Ooo did this with lil steven and hop it was nice
But I’m stuck with not being able to 3k Wallace since I don’t have an invested SS Erika (not ex’d either)
You can try Erika + Mallow with a physical buffer/guage support
I’ll go try aaron out, thanks!
what move lvl is ur ss erika
i might copy that team for wallace LMFAO
1/5
Nicely done!
1/5!
couldn't team her up with mallow and nidorino pre sync so I just did the caveman brain strat
lance melts the side mons pretty quick, and nukes milotic nicely with b move after first sync
Aaron was pretty easy , now for round 2 , I was wanting to go with Glacia for Infinite Steel Zone but she also has infinite Hail. Would that be a problem
Or should I replace Colress with a Weather Changer.
It's fine, I don't mind 
I fugged up and forgot to grab raging rain 5 to shoot The Strongest Razor Leaf™
Could've hit for 120k instead
Guys are there any presets for 3k?
check pins
Check the last pins, in particular
This one #1009554906568462476 message
Ok thanks
Overkill?
….ok what in the world man this stage is offtype AND has sentry entry 2
Surprised you managed to off-type Drake without weather setters
Rei's sure flinch with B move helped!
Also NC Rosa's confusion in that Round params hit on opponents more frequently!
That was the easiest run in all 5 thanks to 3rd round params!
It is the only one which is pre sync!
Others are post sync
Does rock drake require weather manipulation like dragon and ice?
Drake sets sandstorm on entry and sync
Oh mb
No, but he has Slomo 9
Took longer than needed but 3k Glacia off type Glacia done
Guys is there any chance I do 3k with this roster?
On glacia
I only need drake and glacia btw the other ones I can do 3k
Those are my supports
Actually my whole roster
why there are very few pairs actually Exd?
Cuz they are a new player! 
That should clear Glacia easily, just use max move on entry
Try adding strike x3 dmg, strength 1, grad healing and half ally hp at start on top of the 2.5k preset
Ty but I'm running into another issue , if I run vigilance on skyla , Phoebe gets lots of sp def drops and kills me , but if I run stalwart , Phoebe just Crits inevitably and kills me aswell.
sorry for the continuous ping
what round is this?
R3 will double the chance of their sp def drops
well 40% still isn't much tbf
I believe it is R3
Consider moving this fight to R4 (if R3). Go with Vigilance. Also, Skyla may not be the best option here.
I'm thinking about using Oak as a support and use Sycamore for R5
R3
Oak , Lucy , Janine
Haven't tried it tho
His Potent Toxin, Mini potion MPR and protect help his survivability and damage alot
And his poison sting also heals him if the opponent is poisoned
poison stall? sure then
Nice!
1.5 hours to get the perfect RNG. I am burnt out but I can't believe I was able to do this. Second attempt 15k CSMM , (my love for oak and Nidorino has increased substantially)
Thanks everyone Trout , Gakon , Nov for all the help aswell.
the fact you beat lucy before 15k hoenn is kinda funny
i need to know the params for that poison stall team
Arc Cyn diff
big if true
maybe i should move drake to r4, hes still giving me a headache 🫠
2.5k param with Strength 1 , Strike dmg x3 , half ally HP , and grad healing
Why did Hard Sinnoh feel harder than this tho
nice thanks, i’ll probably resort to this if i get a headache with one of them 👹
does the support have to be oak though
And it also shows how hilariously easy Lucy is
ohhh i might have to consider then. last time i poison stalled, i used bp morty as my support
I was recommended that , but he wasn't 3/5 for me
i have him 3/5 non ex, so i’ll probably use him
He has infinite passive recovery in his grid which also helped
i might copy some of your drake team too ngl, but i dont have arc suit cynthia 🤡 not sure who to bring in to change weather
Don't copy my team if you had arc cyn
I used melony and Morgan to just stall turns
With Max Resonance and Protect
do you have 3/5 hala
ah i see
yeah, but i can’t consistently triple queue with him so im just considering off typing or poison stalling as a last resort
can you ex him
cuz haymaker + super prep should be able to wipe sides and chunk him hard
don’t have enough spirits
that used to be my go to for ice
rip
wise entry x2 stage so ghetsis isnt too good here
yeah sadly
i’ll probably have him ex’ed by the time ice weak drake returns but i have a few other candidates i wanted to ex so 🫠🫠🫠
15k on your 2nd CS you say!? That's incredible 
Congrats and very well done! 
Also nice thinking by bringing Oak
Thank you ! I'd like to think the cs was easy rather than I did good
After reading over his kit , I was like , this is the best poison stall tank ever
Idk what to tell you. This isn't an easy CS by any measure.
Is there a cs ranking?
Sinnoh and Hoenn are considered the 2 most difficult CS regions
Oh nice
Potent Toxin , Mini potion MPR , TM MPR , Hit Poisoned Opponent and Heal , Special Damage Reduction Field Duration Increase
Those were the ones I got I believe
Perfect
I got 6 MPR's on TM
do you think you can send ur grid?
Sure , one second
I realized I didn't get persisting barrier 3
thank you!
Can u show me the params for drake cause I use ‘’better team’’ and still lose for 3k
Or maybe u have 3/5 arc cynth and nuke?
It's 3/5 cyn
I'm 99% sure this is what I ran
My Cynthia is 2/5 can’t clear it fast enough
Ok let me try them
Do u start with max move from melony?
Yes
Actually no
I reset until he does X Speed All I believe
And then I use Max Move the next turn
Note that you'll have an easier time vs Drake if you bring a Defense buffer. All of Drake's moves are physical. Arc Cynthia can brute force the stage regardless, but survival would be way easier with a physical tank.
I tried with arc cynth hop and melony still losing
Is damage or surviving the issue?
My strat was just buffing it's offenses to the max with no defense and then using Damage Guard Next to live and let Arc Cyn sweep
Kind of both
Also my Cyn is EXR'd
1/5 Cynthia is enough for the stage
Then I’m doing something wrong
try with the params Astro sent, but replace Atk 3 with Power on Hit 1
and reset the run if they spam Earthquake too many times in a row
Power on hit 1 and 2 are usually free params in pre sync and quick post sync context
Ok I will try it
Does anyone have a replay to show me the start I die after couple turns by flygon
Strat*
Which round is this?
No, I mean what round are you fighting Drake on?
3rd
I'll try it out give me a few mins
Can you send a screenshot of your available supports and techs?
You have enough pairs to comfortably ontype Drake
SS N + Candice + a support, Candice wants to be gridded with Inertia at least
I have hala too
I didn’t send the strikers
12550 on my first master mode, im pretty happy given the scuffed-ness of my teams
What move level is Hala?
Gj brother but I think you have broken pairs u can go 15k imo
2/5
2/5 Hala, should be good enough if you don't wanna grid Candice
As you can nuke with him instead
What’s the strat?
Grid Haymaker, sync with support first then quad queue to ensure you sync twice before enemies' first sync
I need 3k param cause I’m sure I will get wrong params after 2.5k
Candice instead of Melony to replace Sandstorm
And a gauge support instead of Hop
Someone who can recharge guage and/or buff team speed
Give it a go
Also take note of this before going in
Ping was a mistake Gakon oops
Still need to figure the params for 3k
You can figure it out. Try using these pointers #1009554906568462476 message to add 500 points to the 2.5k on-type presync (more damage) preset
Send the params you pick here if you want, someone will go over them
Don’t think I can do it with the team I picked but anyway
Couldn’t even do 2,5k points pre sync
Are you planning on poison stalling another stage?
Maybe glacia cause mix blue ss Hilda is not working
SS Hilda can handle Glacia
Not mine 😂
It's a tough fight in general with all the AoE spam, but you can get through
She is 1/5 not exed
I clear pretty fast the sides but still die
I manage to do 2,5k
But not 3
SS Hilda Mix Blue + a Special support can 3k
And given that you have these options available for Glacia. I highly recommend poison stalling Drake and getting it over with.
You have a really good support on your roster that'll basically guarantee the win
Arc stev?
Sync accel. And Kanto circle will make Glacia's moves easier to tank
off topic , I really wish I could spend 5k paid on support banner and pick chase , I love his kit
I picked him ss Hilda and sc Irida from those banners
I will give it a go
I need post sync or pre sync?
I think I did it pre sync with 2,5k
Ok I will try and tell you what are the problems after 😂
Blue and hilda die from blizzard
bah, still a little stuck on round 3
tried shifting from sidney r3 to drake
Very close but not cigar
Maybe Lana with Wide Gaurd would help?
Params can be tweaked a little but tbh you are going to have to reset for good move RNG. If they spam Blizzard - Icy Wind, just reset. You want them to use either TMs or single target moves.
This Glacia stage in particular has buffed offenses, so she's meant to hit hard unfortunately
Use these + standard reduction and strength 6
Also just to make sure, you are using Blue's max move at the start right?
I’m using his move at start I will try these thanks
Use Chase's TMs to make sure you sync twice with Hilda before Glacia
Hey a mistake on my part. Replace Special Reduction 8 for Max Hp 2. I'm so sorry. Blue's been doing a lot less damage than he should be 
Haven’t tried it yet so no worries I will put the correct param
With those params hilda is getting 1 shot
If they blizzard 1 time
Like Trout said , try to keep resetting for better RNG to where they use only TM , X items or Single Target moves until they reach sync , by which it should be easy
If not dead
I will try couple resets but I think the team is weak even if I get once attacked they die
Given the setup it may even be possible to replace atk 3 and hp 2 for hp 4 to make Glacia's attacks more tolerable
Hilda and Blue should be able to do enough damage
Blue is doing good dmg Hilda is not doing so great
use V-Create
That’s what I’m using but even when I double sync when glacia sync I lose only chase stays alive
Mid isnt dying even with 2 Hilda syncs?
Any suggestion? I like to try off type. What should I add to get 3k?
Nope I told u she is 1/5 not ex not cake
If I ex her and cake her will it make any difference cause I wanted to ex her cause I don’t have any decent fire for ex except her
Yeap
the other option is to go back to atk, make them less tanky and pray for good move RNG
Hilda is not a bad unit to EX and cake. I wouldnt recommend doing it for one stage. But you can if you want.
I have like 4 of her cake
although im pretty sure we can figure this out without investing more in Hilda
Support cake
How many EXd supports do you have?
Phoebe has Sentry Entry x 2. So this stage would be nearly impossible to offtype unfortunately.
- with a physical damage dealer
You should get 5-6 supports EXd before going for damage dealers
I would guess so. Cynthia's damage will be completely neutered thanks to the stage's gimmicks.
do you think poison stall will work?
yeah
Could u suggest some?
These are my only dark so, i dont have a choice
This is more suited for https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1217072721268314185. You can send your support roster there and I'll take a look.
You're better off Poison Stalling, yeah
@wild scaffold show your parameters here
yeah
i see one issue already, defense parameters are often a bad idea
I have defense 3 UP
with your current team, you could remove both of those and take "no weather, terrain or zone"
Good idea
I like using a fixed parameter so I dont need to invest time thinking
But I will do that thx
you can also take the 50 point special damage reduction for a free 50 points, as that is bypassed entirely by crits
i tend to avoid defense like the plague since it gets multiplied by strength
Oh!!
yea
since defense affects base stats and strength adds levels which adds to base stats
defense just weighs into the damage formula to a much greater extent than attack does, so taking a lot of it can kill your damage output pretty heavily
it gets annoying real fast
isnt it raw divided by defense
for damage calcs
then multiplied by like .85-1.1
for damage rolls
Down to 30% not bad
Restarting
Wow I didn’t knew def parameters was that of a big deal
No wonder I had struggled a little in pass CS
What's the maximum number of points you guys think I can get with this roster? Cause I don't know which score to aim for
I got 6k on Monday
But I feel like I could've done more
wait I just realised the glitch at the end
no one knows until you try, let's start with brainstorming teams first
yeah but the thing is, I don't want to aim for 3k and do nothing
yeah, or I can show you which teams I already used to get the 6k
that works, helpers can give you feedback on improvements
yeah I'd like that
and you see my roster
the last few pairs that don't show up are lillie anniversary 5/5
cynthia exr 1/5
and viktor spectrier 3/5
and I'll show you what I used to clear it
I got exactly 6k and 2.5k alone were from Phoebe
so we already know that team is broken
Glacia can be improved with an actual tank instead of Acerola
like who? Why did I do Acerola on that team? I think I had a reason
same with Sidney
Glacia spams special moves, who can you think about?
someone who buffs my special def
let me see who i have. give me a min
Starmie Misty
or Melony Lapras
good options, i also recommend Event Oak personally
anyway, move to Sidney team, replacing one of the sup with BP Valerie would help a lot
especially if you are able to double candy her
with Mawile?
okay so I can do Wally, Valerie, Torterra
and in glacia team, replace Acerola
I also recall you saying I should have used SS Erika for another team
SS Erika is great on Wallace, because she is literally ontype
and there is a perma field effect param this week so her sun permanently stays
okay so if I use her on Wallace, who do I replace in the Glacia team?
I mean who do I replace her for
a sun setter, ofc
hmm do I have another?
let me search
if I use Gordie Coalossal and gigantamax him?
and then I have Blaine Rapidash
Blaine has on demand sun, that's enough
okay so resetting
and let's see
if I go for 10k, how many do I need per round?
2.5?
no
2
I know the presets on the pins yeah, I use those
that depends on the team, try to experiment with params to achieve maximum possible points
you mean 3k on each? damn
okay
that's ambitious
okay so for sidney I'm going for on type pre sync
I'm scared
I feel like I clicked way too many parameters
Just give it a try. You'll be fine!
i didn't tell you to aim for 3k points
what are the params? and is Valerie still 1/5?
yes still 1/5
the params were the 2.5k preset + some random ones to reach 3k
but it's obvious I can't
I could try the 2k preset
3k requires good understanding of your pairs and enemies, as well some gameplay mechanics
just try your best for now, don't go for the hardest challenge while being underprepared
bouncing from here and damage challenge
same issue for the last few days, Round 3
Drake and sidney remain
slightly inaccurate sync list
for sidney: been using Diantha as a striker, but not being able to deal enough damage before succumbing
tried using Devestation, tried using Lucian, tried using Lenora, no dice
i tried on type pre sync and post sync templates, with additions into strength/power on hit to hit 3k marks
what was the team?
ive tried several
diantha lillie (clef) lillie (comfey), diantha Viola (masq) SC Jasmine, Diantha lillie (clef) Sycamore (xerneas)....
someone reccomended lucian once so i tried that out, didnt snag it either
and who was syncing first? was it a suppEX or Diantha?
diantha
i used to do the supports first, but i felt i wasnt getting the damage i needed
especially since diantha has the mega tax
i would try picking up all the attack and removing some strength
drake kept pissing me off r1 so i fought sidney instead 🤡
which 100 point damage reduction should i choose for this team?
I'd say none and pick something like max HP 2
Yeah don't need to pick either
This team already has massive damage output
fr? bc glacia obliterated this team bc of her damn aoe moves, idk if it’s a param issue
Just reset if she spams AOE too much
Reset for RNG ,
And try not giving them any Atk params
3/5 Hilda will obliterate the stage no problem. Just need good move RNG.
Order should be something like:
X Speed All
Psychic
Draining Kiss
Icy Wind
Draining Kiss
Hail
Sync Move
here’s my params
You could opt to use Ash, or forgo setting up Devastation and just go for sync accel. ssElesa and your anni Raihan can propel her forward enough times with mpr rng.
Looks fine , if you still have trouble I'd say replacing Atk 3 with Max HP 2
Power on hit 1 instead of Atk3
doesnt sidney obliterate rotom due to dark weaknesss
The Power on hit params are pretty much free points. Giving Glacia atk is way worse (she has buffed offenses to begin with)
Don't tank with ssElesa.
I'm using a 2/5 diantha, I got pretty close by utilizing flinch.
also the only dark move i think is brutal swing
oh it really was the rng luck haha, they somehow survived 2 icy winds. thanks for the help 🫡
Nice!
Congrats
could this team 3k ☠️ idk if they’re be gauge issues or anything
hell i forgot if phoebe utilizes special or physical attacks
so my tink is....raihan?
Phoebe has both special and phys moves, but mostly special. Team looks good. Sync with Karen first for the mega.
Make sure to grid Karen for Dark Pulse aggravation. It'll help a lot to deal with sides once mid goes down.
when should i use melony’s max move and which max move should i use?
I'd say use it to tank moves you're having a tough time living. You don't have to use it, but if you need to, you can. Note that you'll have to quad queue off Max Move to not mess with sync countdown.
Max guard
Lucian will mitigate any gauge issues you might have
make sure Karen is gridded for nuke and she's at max gauges when she syncs. debuff sp atk as much as possible for her sync
tbf melony also has sing so
just her nuke grid, right? she has a few other grid examples
3 diantha syncs
Something like this (changed it a little sorry)
damn it really is that easy huh
Tbf Aurochs makes it look easy
their f2p runs always look easy
and thanks for this!
Melissa I think running 2 poison stall teams is also an option for you if needed
i WAS thinking of running a poison stall team with janine, bp morty, and lucy for drake since im sick of him, but how would i make two poison stall teams then
Try this first. Just letting you know it is an option.
could u also look at my params? (i noticed i had no stat reduction on while recording so i turned it off)
You'll need both flinch and sing so can't pick Interference Immunity and no status. Replace them with atk3.
For the last 50pts I think you'll have to go with strike or tech x3 dmg. Phoebe has no AOE moves till mid goes down, at which point you can stun lock the sides so it should be a problem.
i do have a lot of strong off typers left but i wanna try to use this team a few more times before i resort to off typing
You can use flinch to make it to 2nd sync
does this mean i have to focus on the sides too
You just need to flinch/sleep them once after first sync to make it. Just make sure to queue the move last.
Lot of HP is remaining and Karen can't AoE sync!
But trying is fine!
so queue the flinch/sleep move last?
Not necessarily, but you can for eg. put left to sleep after your first sync which will allow you to make it to 2nd sync
Yes
yes, you make the most of your denials this way
okay now all of a sudden my sings are failing
this is starting to get annoying now, ive restarted this fight like 3 times already
That's rng!
It happens a lot to me
Resetting is part of 3k mm unfortunately
curse the rng ffs, that’s the reason why glacia obliterated my otherwise overkill fire team the first time
You don't need to, but you can give Melony Troublemaker if you wanna guarantee that sing lands
Are you trying to time it or button mashing?
button mashing ☠️
where can i get troublemaker?
3* crunchy cookie
If you're button mashing it's better to do it at 1x or 2x speed iirc (maybe someone can correct me)
It's better to time it at max battle speed
at the fastest speed? i usually failed at triple queuing at the fastest speed
also what grid should i put on melony? i just realized
Yes cause it's better to time it at fastest speed
If you're mashing do it on slower speed
well fun fact even at the slowest speed, i still failed to triple queue, hella pathetic
quadqueue*
What round is this?
3
i swear the god
the ONE time i was able to quadqueue, i accidentally used dark pulse on one of the sides
now im starting to wonder if syncing with melony first for sync buff would be any different
wow Phoebe has thick HP
you can try using Darach or a zone setter to override her Ghost Zone, and aim for post sync
who should i replace with darach then, lucian? im not sure if darach debuffs anything but attack and that wasn’t quite what i was going for
Phoebe's sync is physical so it helps, and she occasionally uses physical attacks
Defog also allows you to get free 150 pts from crit shield
she has a physical sync? huh, i was focusing more on the special side since most of her regular attacks are special
Would Melony's max move help survive sync at all Gakon?
atp i might just off type, this is too annoying
unsurprisingly the two elite four members giving me a headache are weak to my weaker rosters, why am i not surprised
Which fights do you have remaining and what's your plan for them?
We could look into making 2 stall teams
i do want to poison stall drake bc fuck him but dont i have to replace weather for him
and i have tons of powerful damage dealers left in case i need to off type
Wouldn't matter if you stall
yes if you lean towards post sync params, her GMax move may only help tanking sync + an aoe move at best with pre sync params methinks
it's been a long while since my last time using her in CSMM
i only have phoebe and drake left btw
Same but I think I've tanked sync + move with Melony
For Phoebe you can use Astro's team
For Drake you can try poison setter + atk debuffer + potion tank
what was astro’s team again?
should you always sync with oak?
It doesn't matter
Although for Safety , I had endure on sync on Janine and synced with her once just in case but it never got to that point
Although you need MPR on TM at the start. For +6 sp def.
ah alright, i was never able to get his tm refreshed so erm
do you have vigilance on oak?
Yes
…
i hate this so damn much
i turned off the half ally hp param since it’s proving me bullshit, what can i turn on instead
Are you using my grid?
i switched to bp morty
Cuz the passive healing should b way more than enough
Yeah cuz Oak gives Passive healing
Idk much about Morty tbh
Might need him for Drake. But if Leaf is available it's okay.
leaf? i’ll try her then
but which param should i turn on in the place of half ally hp
No, I mean using Morty for Phoebe is fine if you have Leaf for Drake
With Morty half hp shouldn't be a problem. He's gridded?
oh yeah leaf if available, i’ll use her for drake then
with this
You need potion MPR
thanks
ig i’ll leave half ally hp on, idk when the right time to use potions is though
Use Morty's TMs then use Potion on him if First Aid 4 doesn't proc by then
i cannot be making this shit up oh my god i actually might throw a desk off a skyscraper at this point
Offtype gaming?
if poison stall clearly isn’t working
Did you get potion MPRs?
i copied this exact grid
No I mean in the run
like once
Did you get any mprs?
You'll need to fish for potion MPR
Retry a few times, any strat you go with will involve RNG so resetting is inevitable
sigh, atp i’m starting to think even off typing will save my sanity more by like 1%
Yup
Fyi , it took me almost 6 hrs for all 5 battles..
Typical Hoenn experience
fuck hoenn, gives me another reason to shit on hoenn when arguing about my rival about whether unova or hoenn is better
No Karen 3/5?
Also NGL 78% looks too far off from a win anyway even with better potion mpr
Are you using stall parameters?
i do have her but im having a problem with quadqueing and not doing too much damage
yeah along with some extra params to equal 3k
If she's exless I can definitely imagine the problems
she is
and i have so many other pairs i want to ex
Can’t beat drake I’m so mad
I tried everything
I guess I will settle down to 14k I can’t 3k him
Maybe I can offtype with arc Steven and ani lilie but I have to reset
I already used them that’s what I mean
I tried with arc Cynthia to offtype but can’t
I tried with nc cheren too
Cheren shouldn't struggle too much as long as you remove sand
Can u suggest any offtype team?
I will try a couple more teams
Sskris and dahlia are great premium options even at 1/5 to gapfill cheren and remove sand
Another option could be just having an exed BP candice
does drake have wise entry 2 or something
Sand superiority
Iirc
So 20/30% higher stats in sand
Iirc
Oh nvm
Just wise entry x2
Then yeah prob better off with a Phys unit
yeah pomatools said so
i was about to considering brute forcing drake with on off typer but tons of my off typers are special
only physical off typers i have available rn are nc silver and nc nate
I mean units like NC red, irida or exed BP candice can probably make it with Dana
yeah i got none of that lmfao
Also with good enough enhancers, any Phys ice can do it too, like Hala, summer Steven or holeon
I even won with Wulfric once
i tried hala but his 4 gauge move is just killing me
slow gauge doesn’t help either
not bad we can work with that give me one sec
are u trying for the 18 types or no?
@signal panther
Does it do anything?
If I get gems id gladly take it. Only if it's possible
using all 18 types for the type medal unlocks master mode. you should be able to fill it out within 2 weeks
yeah
Do you think id be able to do that?
you don’t get gems from cs. but it’s a great place for resources nevertheless
i mean its possible but it will take time
Then sure. Ill have something to work for
mhm u get a lot of champion spirit
okay so lets see here
have u beaten a champion stadium b4
^^
How do I check that 💀
is there a button that says hall of fame
I guess no never beat a champ before
oh so you never fully beat one stadium?
I think I also locked out steven too I that one fight I beat
I hope that didn't mess it up
you can’t use a sync pair again in the stadium once you use them
champion stadium needs you to build 5 teams
Can I reset that manually or do I have to wait for the next reset
next week
I see
i dont think you can reset in hard mode
no
ok
im gonna do some work and see what we can do for u alright @signal panther
That's extremely nice thank you!
Yes any more Filter? Or just type?
Just type would work
One second
Yup
Do you mean by type like strike tech support etc?
Oh yeah yeah my bad one second
your fine dw
yup thats good
do you have a filter to only show 5 stars? it’ll be useful if you turn that off too
yeah
vs Phoebe - Karen Elio Lucian
vs Glacia - AS Cynthia Leaf Acerola
vs Sidney - Emma Maylene Roxanne
vs Drake - Riley AS Steven Candice
vs Wallace - AS Lance Erika (Leafeon) SS Mina
You can fight them in any order. Just don't do Drake R3 and try to do Glacia R2.
I would say that however Steven is already used.
wait they already beat one battle if three sync pairs are unusable
who did you beat already?
Most likely Drake or Glacia.
Phoebe
Oh.
Don't ask me why lmao
Actually, you dodged a bullet. She is pretty hard it took me awhile.
yeah so definitely try glacia r2. you want to bring in a weather setter to replace hail
Mhm.
you could try base hilda + blaine + some support for glacia
Preset them. For when you have enough time and patience you can try them. However like I said it may take time.
Filter to this, remove other filters though.
Whatever pops up let us know.
blaine or anni raihan could be good, i’d save ss erika for wallace since he also needs you to change weather
Alright, try Raihan. Start with your team, for the tactics, make your support first, Raihan second and your damage dealer last.
One second
Don’t use the Dynamax too early though, that is how you get the sunny effect.
Who else should I put next to blaine and raihan?
No, use Raihan first, you need support.
Raihan has his TM, raises SpA by four rank stats.
It says raihan is tech. Is that correct then? Will I still get dynamax without ex?
You need defense.
Mhm.
better be careful though bc if you don’t replace glacia’s hail, she’ll be a complete monster with her aoe moves
Just to understand correctly: I want sunny but I don't want to use Dyna too early even though it gives sunny? That's confuses me a bit
Mhm.
Wait until she uses her Hail move.
So do I use sandstorm or what do I do
You need to replace it with sunny.
Ah I see. Will she only do hail once in the battle?
i thought glacia summoned hail the moment she enters battle?
she’ll also summon hail when she syncs
If I’m correct, she uses it when sync.
Let me check.
glacia has a passive that summons hail when she enters battle
So every time I use flare it will turn to sunny?
that’s already dangerous enough and probably screams for weather to be changed asap
I mean raihan has sandstorm without dynamax



