Champion Stadium

[karmic zephyr]

okay let's start with grids

you tell me which ones to get

Sharp Entry 1?

[mellow linden]

Unless you want Sharp Entry you don't need any grids here

On Lillie, at least

[karmic zephyr]

why would I not want it?

I got plenty of the orange things

[crimson wolf]

Masters

[mellow linden]

Team-dependent

[mellow linden]

And what's the current team & parameters?

[mellow linden]

Cynthia isn't getting Sandstorm and is spending way too much time on her self-buffs

[karmic zephyr]

this scares me

especially when I literally struggled to killed 3 simple pokemon

[mellow linden]

That's Master Mode, don't worry about it rn

[karmic zephyr]

okay

so I got LIly with the grid

what else

[mellow linden]

The only one you'll have to deal with on Hard Mode is choosing your parameter from the previous rounds

[mellow linden]

Same procedure. The gimmick for Steel weak Glacia is that she takes less damage from physical moves, but because it's just Hard Mode and Lillie + Solgaleo can set Steel Zone she should be able to clear

She also debuffs the opponents' Sp. Atk. for more survivability

[karmic zephyr]

do I need supports that buff attack?

[mellow linden]

If you can manage to get +2 from a teammate then great, but it shouldn't be necessary

[karmic zephyr]

Lana Araquanid?

Oh wait

Falkner Swellow could be a better option

And then there's Kiawe Marowak

[crimson wolf]

What parameters I have to pick this time?

[mellow linden]

I was talking to someone else with that, though the Sync Buff enhancement parameter might be better for your specific situation. The main thing you need to adjust is your team

[karmic zephyr]

And there's Shauna Chesnaught too

[mellow linden]

Kiawe might be best here since he gives Fire for type medal and can debuff the opponent’s Defense, + he has Potions and can help a bit with gauge

[karmic zephyr]

isn't Shauna better?

[mellow linden]

You only need +2 Attack from a teammate since Lillie gives herself +4, so Shauna has less overall contributions she can make

[karmic zephyr]

okay so we got Lillie, Kiawe

what should my last member be? someone who gives special defence?

[mellow linden]

Can try a defensive Support or just go with type medal filler

[crimson wolf]

Ok what team? Because I change to maxie

[karmic zephyr]

okay so let me check

[mellow linden]

Cynthia can still 100% clear if you actually give her better teammates

[crimson wolf]

Then what other units?

[karmic zephyr]

Oak, Nidorino gives special defence

but I don't get a medal cause I already did poison

[mellow linden]

I mentioned the issues with your previous Cynthia team above, let me reply to that

[mellow linden]

Fix these above issues and you should at minimum see a huge spike in performance

[karmic zephyr]

Melony Lapras

[mellow linden]

She can work

[karmic zephyr]

okay so Lillie, Kiawe and Lapras against Glacia

let's see

so wait what's the plan this time

Lillie used Radiance of the sun

Kiawe buffs crit rait

and atk

Melony buffs sp def

then Lillie does the TM?

[mellow linden]

Standard procedure is to set up your necessary buffs and other essentials at the start and then you can move on to attacking

[karmic zephyr]

well undoubtedly this was the easiest battle

Lillie easily did everything

phew okay

first time I clear it on one run

which leaves Drake

[mellow linden]

2 things about Drake:

1. If you grid Cyrus with Critical Focus he can handle all of his offensive buffs, or you can have Supports do some of his buffs for him so he can start attacking faster.

2. Make sure to change the weather to anything other than Rain.

[karmic zephyr]

mhm, obviously I will still have the issue of weather, field, zone

because I definitely thought all these were the same

but we can work on that

[mellow linden]

Weathers are Sun, Hail, Sandstorm, and Rain

You want one of the 3 that isn’t Rain

[karmic zephyr]

okay so Palkia is first pair

now I need a weather setter

focus on medals?

I could do Acerola

[mellow linden]

Sure

[karmic zephyr]

okay so Cyrus now needs someone to buff his sp atk and speed

Well there's EX Bede

Unless you want me to use him on Steven

[mellow linden]

Sure, you could combine him with 1 use of Cyrus’ Trainer Move

[karmic zephyr]

okay does Cyrus needs any grid?

and what moves does Acerola do? right from the get go sandstorm

?

[mellow linden]

Since you’re running him with NC Bede and it’s just Hard Mode you’re fine with no grid on Cyrus.

For Acerola, if you can manage to wait on Sandstorm until your 2nd set of 3 actions then awesome, but if not just have her act last out of your 3 team members

[karmic zephyr]

okay

okay done

phew

almost

let's gooo

woohoo!!

OH WAIT WHAT IS THIS FRAME I GET TO CHOOSE SOME THINGS

don't panic

all good

I got this

[mellow linden]

Yeah, you can choose one of the parameters from a previous round

[karmic zephyr]

okay I only have to pick one

which one do I pick

[mellow linden]

It’s just one, the section with all the numbers and such is Master Mode

[mellow linden]

Sync Buff enhancement (2nd one) is probably best

[karmic zephyr]

okay let me read tips and then we can discuss

hmm the tips are pretty straight forward

I guess 1 spot has to be Bertha

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend you try off-typing with SS Lysandre, actually

[karmic zephyr]

oh

[mellow linden]

You can certainly still try Bertha instead if you want

I just think SS Lysandre will have a slightly easier time

[karmic zephyr]

well the thing is, Lyssandre doesn't give any new medals but we can see what's up with the other 2 pairs I put with him

I still haven't used my Marnie too

and you know how much I love her

[mellow linden]

You can run basically any Support + a Rain setter with SS Lysandre

[karmic zephyr]

okay so medal fillers you're saying

wait I only have 1 rain setter?

lol

[mellow linden]

Your only Rain setter rn is Winona, who should fill Flying on the medal

[karmic zephyr]

yeah

[mellow linden]

Which means you can roll with just a decently bulky Support who fills a type

[karmic zephyr]

any grids on Lyssandre?

[mellow linden]

Iirc yours is 1/5, so he doesn’t get anything of value anyway

[karmic zephyr]

okay so should I pick someone with big HP or big deff?

[mellow linden]

Solid amounts of both

[karmic zephyr]

Normal, Grass, Fighting, Ground, Rock, Dark, Fairy

these are the ones I'm missing

How's SS Wally?

[mellow linden]

You have 2 possible options that could fill Grass in

[mellow linden]

SS Wally is a Tech, so not ideal

Sorry, I meant Tech

He’s a Tech

[karmic zephyr]

btw I can raise Winona to 4 stars

should I?

[mellow linden]

She shouldn’t need it for this, try with her at 3-stars 1st

[karmic zephyr]

okay

so I need a bulky support

There's Misty Starmie

[mellow linden]

I already mentioned this above

[karmic zephyr]

oh

[mellow linden]

2 solid Support options in Grass

[karmic zephyr]

Rosa

[mellow linden]

They’re not the only picks, of course, but they’re options

[karmic zephyr]

and Dawn?

[mellow linden]

Dawn’s a good pick for Grass

If you want to do different types you could try some others as well

[karmic zephyr]

I mean unless I get a dual that's 2 types I'm missing then idk

[mellow linden]

Winona & Dawn fill Flying & Grass, so that’s 2 medals in the end

[karmic zephyr]

oh wait Torterra is 2 types I'm missing

oh

if a pokemon has 2 types do I not get 2 medals?

[mellow linden]

The game only counts the type of the Sync Move

[karmic zephyr]

ah

wait let me evolve Dawn

okay I'm back with Torterra

now what's up

Torterra goes first

then Winona

then Volcanion

[mellow linden]

The order of actions within your team doesn’t matter a whole lot, unless you want Winona to set Rain on her 1st turn (in which case she needs to be acting 3rd in your team)

[karmic zephyr]

so you're saying Winona doesn't matter

[mellow linden]

She’s there for Rain and maybe the occasional flinch

• contributing to Sync countdown, as usual

[karmic zephyr]

do I buff Lysandre first or use Heat Wave from the get go?

[mellow linden]

Don’t touch Heat Wave, use his Trainer Move and then start clicking Steam Eruption

Make sure that when he uses his B Move (iirc it’s called “Heat Hydro Pump”) he does so while Rain is active

[karmic zephyr]

how will he enable his B move if he never leaves a target burned though?

[mellow linden]

Steam Eruption Burns

[karmic zephyr]

oh yeah

I only read the frozen part

okay let's try

good luck

ty

With Volcanion "eating" 4 bars, I can't triple queue

It didn't work and the problem is, I didn't have enough bars

[mellow linden]

What moves are you using on Winona and Dawn?

And did you use Winona’s Trainer Move at all?

[karmic zephyr]

I used Defense All on Dawn twice and then one time Rain Dane on Winona (right before Lyssandra obviously) and that's it

after that, Air slash on winona

yeah I used Winona's TM once only

[mellow linden]

And what move on Dawn once she’d finished with X Defense All?

[karmic zephyr]

I used one time Good as New to set her back to full HP and then none because I was focusing on Lyssandre's 4 bars

I couldn't do anything else

[mellow linden]

Gimme a sec to check something

[karmic zephyr]

I couldn't even use Air Slash at one point

[mellow linden]

Try Shauna instead of Dawn

She’s a bit faster, has more moves with zero gauge, and only has a 1-bar move that she needs to worry about

[karmic zephyr]

Also Lysandre's skill is a one time thing

[mellow linden]

He doesn’t need more than the 1 B Move

If Shauna doesn’t work I have 1 more idea

[grand chasm]

Hate to interrupt but what's the play for glacia? Tryna get at least 2400 but I can't deal enough damage before the 2nd sync with the new Lillie and either Riley or Kimono Grimsley

[mellow linden]

It would depend on the team and specific parameters you’re running

[karmic zephyr]

I also think I need to put Winona 2nd in tactics because she's quite useless

[mellow linden]

Your damage-dealer should always be last in Tactics

So yeah, Winona as 2nd target is the play

[karmic zephyr]

oh so yeah I misread that

[mellow linden]

I possibly misinterpreted your question on team order, so just as much on me

[karmic zephyr]

Can I ask you, why did you suggest I off type on this and especially with Lyssandre?

Because Marnie is my strongest pair

[mellow linden]

Because Bertha lacks in damage outside of her Sync Move and your other Ground options aren’t all that great.

As for why SS Lysandre specifically it’s because you have access to Rain for the +50% Water damage boost. If things keep not working out with SS Lysandre you can try NC Marnie and see if things work out better

[karmic zephyr]

yeah they don't

And I feel like I don't do enough damage

let me try Marnie, Hop, Chase

[mellow linden]

I’m gonna suggest Skyla instead of Hop

[karmic zephyr]

oh okay

[mellow linden]

Because she can give Flying medal

And provides the Defense buffs + Potions that Hop would have

[karmic zephyr]

I also miss the fighting medal

but the defense buffs are a valid reason yeah

yeah just as I suspected, that was an easy win

which mean I finally completed stadium!

yayyy

amazing job!!!

I can't thank you enough!

12/18

[mellow linden]

Nice, right on the high end of the benchmark you wanna shoot for week 1

Congrats!

[karmic zephyr]

thank you ! I have no clue what this means

[mellow linden]

Ideally you wanna hit 9-12 types on type medal for your 1st week

You got 12, the high end of that benchmark

Which is good

[karmic zephyr]

ohhh do they gather?

like next week will I have 12/18 again? and work from there?

[mellow linden]

As long as you best the Champion that week your type medal progress for that region is saved forever

So next week you’ll start at 12/18 and be able to snag those last 6 types to unlock Master Mode

[karmic zephyr]

oh that's great!

So I miss Normal, Rock, Ground, Flying, Fairy

and Grass

I didn't think I could do it honestly

I'm so thankful!

You helped me so much

[mellow linden]

If I hadn’t someone else would’ve, that’s what this channel’s for

[karmic zephyr]

Am I moving fast or is it my idea?

Because you know when I started the game, it hasn't been that long

[mellow linden]

If you're comfortable with your current pace of progress and not feeling rushed then you're good

[karmic zephyr]

No I don't feel rushed, I finished all events and story modes, and slowly doing the legendary adventures too so there was nothing else to do other than stadium

Except there's one event I can't do anything on, I'll tell you on #1217072721268314185

And leaving this here, to remember it

[shrewd latch]

Could I maybe get help for the specific one of every type mission

[undone ether]

i see ash, so you could throw him at phoebe, arc cynthia for steven. Glacia has Sentry Entry x2, and spams blizzarrd that have staacking ACC Buffs.

[old orchid]

Let's get started

So who do you think will be a great choice for each round?

[shrewd latch]

Ash for phoebe, Zerena for Drake, Arc Steven for Glacia, Idk who for sidney but Arc Cynthia for steven

[old orchid]

Arc Steven is not really a dmg dealer, but he can enhance a Steel type dmg dealer and provides the whole team useful buffs and survivability

For Bug, you have Guzma. His expanded grid makes him a legitimate dmg dealer

[shrewd latch]

Ah ok I see

[old orchid]

This is only hard mode, so you should not face many difficulty

[shrewd latch]

So maybe zacian?

[old orchid]

You can try making teams for each pair with many types filled possible, then post them here to get feedbacks

You don't need to fill 15 types on the first week. 12+ filled types are good enough

[old orchid]

A good choice

[shrewd latch]

Ohh okay I see thanks

Is this fine? I'll level up guzma and max out sync grid

[old orchid]

you should replace Swimsuit Misty with a defense debuffer to enhance Guzma's dmg

[shrewd latch]

Ah okay

[keen jasper]

25k monotype ft. the arc units
https://youtu.be/ceU9r5vTBBI?si=95X-8GCGqmCyLZqm

[sacred scroll]

5/5 Gloria I kneel

[fierce jacinth]

Does anyone have the schedule for the upcoming stadiums?

[old orchid]

[frozen hearth]

helppp

[gleaming jolt]

Show us your medal progression!

And your roster!

[vapid notch]

i refuse to belive the game aint rigged, ur telling me i have +6 evasion and your confused but some how ur hitting me every turn? that BS

[fading cradle]

shitty rng

[thorny wind]

That. But also +6 Evasion is "just" 50% chance to evade

Learned this the hard way

[vapid notch]

anway i been stuck on the 1st stage with additional damage, i was gonna fight sidney but im not having an luck with toxic stalling him

my bug box isnt very strong, 3/5 vespa, volcarona, scyther, Guzma

[nocturne pawn]

guzma can clear with the right supports

[mellow linden]

Don’t rely on evasion buffs or accuracy debuffs, those are basically just there to set up modifiers

Also Alder should be plenty to beat Sidney if it’s just Hard Mode

[vapid notch]

im doing 3000k points

[lean lion]

I cleared with this team. You can try it, or replace Bugsy with Guzma if he's 3/5+. I have the run recorded, if you need to take a look.

[fading cradle]

that can clear 3k?

shit might gotta try that when bug weak sidney returns, i dont have 3/5+ guzma

[lean lion]

Yeah, I was surprised the first time too. But I've cleared every bug weak stage (except one that has SEx2, blanking on which one it is) with this team. Bugsy + Noland best bug type duo (there may be some bias here).

[fading cradle]

do you mind if i see the run i wanna see how it worked out

[lean lion]

It's Siebold

[lean lion]

This is from last Hoenn rotation. With supp EX it's a lot easier.

#1208860837947899965 message

[gleaming jolt]

Same team but different investment!

[lean lion]

Love any and all Bugsy Noland clears!

[gleaming jolt]

But Sidney was tough as compared to Lucian!
You got my respect for that!

[fading cradle]

that’s actually insane

time to invest noland and bugsy then

[lean lion]

I've actually been holding off from EXing and 5-staring Bugsy and Noland so I can keep clearing with them at minimum investment. Hasn't failed me yet.

I really want to, but yeah

[fading cradle]

what move level is your aaron

[lean lion]

2/5

His MPR is crucial

[fading cradle]

ahh i have him 4/5

surely that should be good enough for when bug weak sidney comes back

[lean lion]

Definitely

But note that you'll either need to quad queue after Bugsy sync or give him Adrenaline LS

[fading cradle]

where does adrenaline come from again

[formal vigil]

Deluxe cookies

[lean lion]

Deluxe cookies or special cookies we get for specific LS

[formal vigil]

From lg

[fading cradle]

fuck

damn quadque it is then

[lean lion]

I don't have Adr on Aaron so it's not necessary

[grand trout]

I'm so happy y'all are using noland

[manic mica]

Could anyone help me beat this weeks champion stadium these are the sps i have

[mellow linden]

Can build a team around:

• Lillie + Solgaleo for Glacia.
• Lear to off-type Sidney.
• Arc Lance for Drake.
• Hau for Phoebe.
• Arc Cynthia for Steven.

And probably be fine. Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and that you’re properly dealing with any important stage gimmicks, and try to use 9-12 different types (as in, the type of the Sync Move) across your 5 teams

[manic mica]

I could use Lear, but who goes with him?

[mellow linden]

Make sure he’s getting his necessary offensive buffs and then make sure he’s got Psychic Terrain from a teammate

And you should be set

[manic mica]

@mellow linden so this is the team I built, this would work?

Bianca is the only one with psychic terrain

[mellow linden]

There’s no Support on that team and Lear would be forced to spend too many turns buffing himself

[manic mica]

Do you know what characters I could use?

[mellow linden]

Look at Lear’s kit and see what out of the following:

• +4 to +6 Sp. Atk.
• +3 critical rate

He can get with just 1 or 2 of his own actions.

Then pick a Support who can fill the gap(s).

The Teambuilding 101 guidelines cover this and more

[manic mica]

Okay

I could use oak and nidorino

So lear bianca and oak?

[mellow linden]

No, Oak does not buff Lear’s Sp. Atk. or critical rate

[manic mica]

Im trying to think

I could use Elesa?

[mellow linden]

Which Elesa?

[manic mica]

Sygna suit

rotom

[mellow linden]

She is one option among multiple that can work, though you may want to run a Sp. Atk. Support of a different type so you can fill more types on type medal

[manic mica]

What about Lana?

[mellow linden]

Lana does not buff any stats that Lear needs

[manic mica]

Hmm

[vapid notch]

can i get it

[manic mica]

These are Support units with Sp/Attack

Its pretty weak

[mellow linden]

Any of them can work

[manic mica]

Which one do you think is best?

[mellow linden]

Just make sure whoever you pick gets to level 120

[manic mica]

Alrighty

Should I use lucky skills on all of them?

[mellow linden]

They shouldn’t need it for just Hard Mode

[manic mica]

Okay

[vapid notch]

any help with sidney

[manic mica]

Would this work? @mellow linden

[mellow linden]

It can, yes

[manic mica]

@mellow linden

Goodness

I already died

[mellow linden]

Can give that a shot. No need to ping me specifically on this

[manic mica]

Oh sorry

[mellow linden]

Focus on the center opponent 1st

[manic mica]

Okay

Yeah im still dying

Gosh dang it

[mellow linden]

Are you making sure to triple queue? And are you making sure to use Lear’s Trainer Move so he gets his critical rate buffs?

[mellow linden]

What team(s) and parameters have you tried thus far?

[lofty osprey]

I am mostly done with the beginner stuff and starting on my first elite 4 attempt. Can anyone help me come up with 5 team comps from my box? I don't want to invest in the wrong units

[mellow linden]

Can build a team around:

• Arc Lance for Drake.
• Kris to off-type Sidney.
• Lillie + Solgaleo for Glacia.
• Hau for Phoebe.
• Arc Cynthia for Steven.

And probably be fine. Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and make sure you’re dealing with major stage gimmicks (link in the pins for info on those), and try to use 9-12 types (the type of the Sync Move) across your 5 teams.

Level 120 is quite cheap and should be sufficient for this

[karmic zephyr]

Is it my idea or do you miss some legendary pairs? Which can be useful

[mellow linden]

All the Legendary Adventures pairs are present on their roster

[karmic zephyr]

Oh okay

Now why would you suggest Sidney for off type since I see 3 bug pairs?

I see Elesa too

[karmic zephyr]

Oh there's more than 3 😂

[fading cradle]

a lot of them appear to be 1/5

i think most of them will be a lot more viable at higher move levels

[mellow linden]

All of their Bug damage-dealer options are only 1/5, so I’m starting with an off-type option for now.

Elesa being only 1/5 is why I suggest Hau, as Elesa really doesn’t have much going for her at just 1/5

[karmic zephyr]

Oh this is based on something else I had in mind. 😂 I was thinking they could go with Elesa for Phoebe

Oh okay

I'm thinking the arc pairs can be really helpful with everything, they won't struggle as much as I did

[mellow linden]

If need be they could swap in Arc Lance for Sidney off-typing and run Cyrus against Drake, yeah

[lofty osprey]

Had to drive home so I just saw these suggestions. I appreciate it. I actually already burned my Cynthia team because I was stupid but if I can't beat Steven before then I'll make the switch. Which supports are worth building up? I know you suggested good DPS units but I have no clue what supports to use other than what sounds good on paper , hence my current team builds.

I was surprised you didn't seem to like Nemona, but I'll stick to your suggestions

[mellow linden]

Y’know, I totally missed you had SS Nemona

So try her instead of Kris for off-typing Sidney

If you’ve already used Arc Cynthia against a different stage this week then just roll with Arc Lance against Steven and run Cyrus against Drake, I suppose

As for Supports, I’m purposely giving you just damage-dealers to build around since CS Hard Mode is a great place to hone your teambuilding skills. Level 120 is cheap and should be all you need, but if you’re really worried about resource usage you can always put the team together and get it checked over before leveling any Sync Pairs that aren’t yet 120

[lofty osprey]

That's fair thank you

[karmic zephyr]

Skyla is a good support

[lean lion]

Still need help with Sidney?

[manic mica]

I need help beating sidney

[loud stratus]

Hard mode? You can try lusamine with a defensive support to keep her alive and an offensive support to top her up. She can deal decent damage if she doesn't die to quickly.

Oof ss mina is spent

[manic mica]

its just his sync move is death

its

and i havent found a good defensive unit,

[loud stratus]

Oh right he has dark zone right before sync

[manic mica]

yup

[loud stratus]

You'll need to clear zone before he syncs

[manic mica]

how do i do that?

[loud stratus]

Hmmmm, arc cynthia can replace it with ground zone

[manic mica]

cant use cynthia, im saving for steven

[loud stratus]

Time it right. When he uses dark zone then immediately queue your own zone

[manic mica]

^^^

?

[loud stratus]

Hmmmm i don't see any other zone setters in your roster

Ss gio can probably handle steven

Is this hard or master mode? Are you trying to get the medal?

[manic mica]

Hard

[loud stratus]

Do you have any eggvees? Some can set zone

[manic mica]

I don’t need the medal i dont think its that important

nah let me check

sadly no, just a bulbasaur and charmander

[loud stratus]

Have you tried to presync with lusamine?

[manic mica]

presync?

sorry im not the best when it comes to things like stats and stuff

[loud stratus]

Presync means clearing before the enemy syncs once. Or at least defeat the middle opponent.

[manic mica]

yeah i tried

a lot

i used so many units that have spa moves

i use dire hits

nothing works

[vapid notch]

Yes

[loud stratus]

If you're not going for the medal, and don't mind using the same type again, you can use arc cynthia now and use ss gio to deal with steven later.

[manic mica]

I guess so

[lean lion]

Do you have 3/5+ Guzma? And which supports are available?

[loud stratus]

Ss gio may be dated but i think he's still plenty strong for cs hard mode

[fading cradle]

the other option is also getting rid of the zone entirely instead of replacing it

[loud stratus]

Btw if you didn't know, the cs medal unlocks master mode which is harder but has more rewards

[loud stratus]

I don't see lisia or darach in their roster

[fading cradle]

i swear i saw darach

[loud stratus]

Ooops my bad then

[manic mica]

WHAT?!

[lean lion]

Which battles do you have remaining @manic mica ?

[loud stratus]

In that case, defog that dark zone

[loud stratus]

Also important

[manic mica]

i already used it.

dang man

now i dont have cynthia

[manic mica]

Just steven now

speaking of which

which do i pick

[lean lion]

Depends on the team you decide to run

[manic mica]

Well i have no choice but to use SS gio

so wtvr works with him works with me

[loud stratus]

Do you have ex supports?

[manic mica]

🙂‍↔️

nope

[loud stratus]

Worst case, you can poison stall

[vapid notch]

Those are all my units

[vapid notch]

Poison stall isn’t working for me

[loud stratus]

I was suggesting that to JustRed

[manic mica]

whats poison stall-

oh i think i saw someone do it

i js need to know what to do

[loud stratus]

Yeah, koga and/or lucy and a bulky tank should be able to do it

[fading cradle]

• janine for stat drops

[manic mica]

help just which one do i pick!

[loud stratus]

Status conditions if you're poison stalling. Else, phys reduction so you'll last a bit longer

[manic mica]

What do you think is best?

@loud stratus

[lean lion]

You can do:

Aaron Noland Guzma

Aaron Noland Bugsy

Aaron Noland Alder

All of them work. Give Noland 2nd sync since he's EXd. If you run Bugsy, it's okay to sync with him too. Max their offensive stats with Bugsy TMs (needs one MPR).

[loud stratus]

Give each a try to see what works. Ss gio first, because poison stall can be a bit tedious.
But poison stall often works for most cs stages, iirc.

[vapid notch]

What are my 3k parameters

[manic mica]

which condition works for ss gio

Oh

nvm

what team should i make for gio @loud stratus

[lean lion]

Make sure to pick the params with a check mark. PoMa tools param UI is kinfa confusing.

[frozen hearth]

apologies if im intruding. Just got off work. Can i show my roster and medals?

[loud stratus]

1/5 Ss gio wants a crit buffer and speed buff or gauge accel. A defensive tank would also help.

[manic mica]

4 diff types, which 2 do i take?

@loud stratus

[loud stratus]

4 types? Wdym?

Oh right.
Falkner can buff crit. Skyla can buff speed, def and heal

[manic mica]

Okay

@loud stratus of course im gonna level them up

[loud stratus]

Looks doable. Give that team a try.

You can tank with falkner and hope he dodges

[manic mica]

GOD BLESS YOU @loud stratus

[loud stratus]

Nicely done!

[frozen hearth]

can anyone look at this when youre free

[loud stratus]

It's been a while since i last completed a medal. Are those 4 types the only ones you need left for the medal?

[karmic zephyr]

No, it's the ones they've already used

[frozen hearth]

I played the arena only during Alola weeks. I started this game in mid July. Still dont quite get the medal system

[karmic zephyr]

Pokémon stadium has 2 modes. Hard and master. In order to unlock the master, you need to fully fill up the medal thing. You can do that by collecting all 18 medals and you can collect 1 medal for each different type of Pokémon you use to clear hard mode

Does that make sense?

[loud stratus]

For phoebe, you can sync nuke with volkner/solphocle, and tank with oak nidorino

[frozen hearth]

so we should try using 3 different elements every fight?

[karmic zephyr]

Pretty much yeah

But this is hard of course!

But it's okay, progress is carried out through the weeks

[loud stratus]

You'll need at least 2 weeks for the medal

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah to fill it up

[loud stratus]

So 10 battles, so you can technically use 2 types per battle. But getting more out of the way first is a good idea.

[frozen hearth]

yeah thats what i figured. But pheobe for now

[lean lion]

I'm sure someone will come along. But if not, give me a little while, I'll help out.

[loud stratus]

Phoebe's team have healthy advantage, so you'll want to put a status condition on them

[frozen hearth]

oak has 30% poison on his primary, sopho has 100% paralysis on one of his attacks

do i go with this?

ofcourse id level up and all

[loud stratus]

I'd suggest using either volkner or sopho, and fill the last slot with an offensive physical support

Para also is preferable, as it boosts the elec sync nuke

On 2nd thought, 4/5 Leafvee can probably replace oak as she buffs atk and crit and spdef too, on top of healing

Or you can use both. Oak isn't much useful for drake or steven since they're both mainly physical.

[frozen hearth]

para?

[loud stratus]

Volkner or sopho can paralyze

Volkner has hostile environment so he has a decent chance of applying it

[frozen hearth]

ah yes

[old orchid]

I would replace Sophocles with a dmg dealer, no matter ontype or offtype

[lean lion]

For Drake: Rosa, Cyrus, Lucian

For Steve: Kiawe, SS Nemona, BP Morty/Roxanne

[lean lion]

You can replace him with SS Red

[loud stratus]

Oof i just checked Sophocles' atk

[frozen hearth]

thanks for the help lads. 12/18 aint that bad i guess

[fading cradle]

using sidney to beat sidney lol

congrats! 12 types in one week is definitely good

[fiery agate]

what'sa good poison stall team

[old orchid]

A good tank + a poison and trap unit + an offensive debuffer

[fiery agate]

Is salazzle sufficient?

not sure what trap unit with poison are there

[old orchid]

Salazzle is not a stall unit

Seviper is a good example of trap/poison unit, as she can inflict both

[fiery agate]

Sidney is difficult... not enough bug types...

[lean lion]

Hard mode or MM?

[fiery agate]

MM, had to take away strength +3 and +6

ended up using SS Cynthia, Bugsy and Aaron

[sleek topaz]

I just tried to beat drake with zygarde serena, iris hydreigon, and rotom elesa and i got wiped

[mellow linden]

That team doesn’t particularly have great synergy and doesn’t deal with the Rain that gives Drake a significant damage boost

SS Serena’s a good damage-dealer to build a team around for Drake, though

So it’s just a matter of finding a good Support for SS Serena and changing the weather from Rain (if you can do that with your Support then that’s great too, but not required)

[sleek topaz]

Is iris good to keep or should I change her

[mellow linden]

She doesn’t bring a whole lot to the table, so it’s better to swap her out for both Support flexibility (since you can have your weather setter take that slot that Iris previously occupied) and because it means more types on your type medal

[sleek topaz]

Oh ok

Ok yeah I just beat it a lot easier

I used serena, accerola with the sandcastle thing, and lucario cynthia

[mellow linden]

Nice

[spice ridge]

Palossand

[sleek topaz]

Thanks I tend to forget mons that came out during and after sun and moon

[autumn jay]

So for 15k clears there’s no one size fits all setup like 10k clears?

[sacred scroll]

Not really

I have one but I switch between Status/Interference, Phys/Special, and debuff enemy stats or not

So it's not a true OSFA

[autumn jay]

That’s kind of what I do for 2k clears, What do you use

[lean lion]

Params are heavily reliant on the team you're running, whether you wanna post or presync, and the abilities of your pairs.

For Hoenn specifically, I recommend going for the 2.5k presync params and add the remaining 500 points based on your team.

[gleaming jolt]

Most affecting factors are

• Pre sync or Post Sync
• WTZ or not
• Ontype or Offtype

[autumn jay]

Is it super different between the different regions?

[lean lion]

Not really, but Hoenn stages are notorious for hitting hard. So you'd rather kill them as fast as possible or bring a really good defensive support.

[old orchid]

Sinnoh is more infamous for having many Entry x2 stages

Lucian with 3/4 stage having Wise Entry x2

[fading cradle]

i hate lucian grrr

[lost gulch]

https://x.com/murasame_poke/status/1832639873288958243?s=46&t=utskAcN9Bj4lJjZ9x1aE3Q

むらさめ (@murasame_poke) on X

Lv.1 チャンバト抜群3000pt 2枠攻略

Twitter · Sep 8, 2024, 4:39 AM

[twilit pond]

Bro we cant win the hard stadium with 1/5 poke?

[old orchid]

You totally can, with good teammates and parameters (if master mode)

[twilit pond]

Can u help me kill electric and dragon with my dex

I will ss my dragon and electric pokemon

[lean lion]

What's your type medal progress?

[twilit pond]

Im on hoenn hard challange lv 1

Im new on this game

[lean lion]

Which types have you already used?

Okay so there's this thing called Type Medal. You have to use all 18 types of Pokémon to fight Hard Mode to unlock Master Mode.

It'll be easier to pick teams for the remaining fights if we know which types you've already registered.

[twilit pond]

That my poke

Dmg very low

[toxic cobalt]

Please let us know this

Also no need to level pairs all the way to 140 at the start, it might leave you short on resources

[indigo moss]

If u invest in some summons om the 72h banner it gives u well enough resources to level up pairs to ur heart's content

But that's like something u would do only if u have trio + nemona + u aint planning on summoning anything

[mellow linden]

That banner is the definition of bait

[indigo moss]

It is but the ressources are good

[mellow linden]

It’s a bad deal, not worth the gems

[mellow linden]

Not worth spending gems for

[indigo moss]

I still got like 34k gems from clearing everything just from story and not rlly planning on summoning till NY and if it aint a SP i like imma skip till next anni so really

It's just preference

[mellow linden]

It’s better to save your gems

[indigo moss]

I am

I got everyone and nemona when i was around chap 7 in story

Lel

[mellow linden]

At this point you’d be best moving to #poma-lounge

Since this is a CS channel

[indigo moss]

I just suggested something for the ressource problem that was mentionned

Dw ik the rules

[swift swan]

updated

[fading cradle]

no drake r3 got it

[swift swan]

it's just that the sides have iron head so it'll get 60% flinch

nothing too dangerous

[keen jasper]

No half sync

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[manic mica]

Could anyone help me? Could use the help.

[lean lion]

can you please send screenshots of your roster instead? that way its a lot easier to look through

[manic mica]

Okay!

[fiery agate]

Glacia is giving me a headache

[manic mica]

@lean lion

[fading cradle]

completed the hoenn medal, i DEFINITELY need to revise a lot of these teams for csmm then 💀

[sacred scroll]

[toxic cobalt]

Stall team should be possible with poison and leaf tank. Grass dark and ice should work themsleves out. Then you only need to fit five other types, roxanne and obvious rock, many water and psychic options, Agatha for ghost, fighting whatever maybe brawley

[manic mica]

I am sorry could you explain this a bit easier? 😭

[toxic cobalt]

Sure. You need grass, dark and ice, so pick one grass, dark, and ice damage dealer and build teams around them for the grass, dark, and ice-weak stages.
For fairy and fire, you can either build a team around a fairy and fire unit, or build a stall team to clear poison type

[trail smelt]

Good GOD Wallace, being grass weak and having permanent field effect is signing your own death warrant

[fading cradle]

😭 had to switch out brendan for ss erika in hard mode bc of that

and my ss morty is already in my glacia team so oops

[lean lion]

vs Phoebe - Karen Elio Lucian

vs Glacia - AS Cynthia Leaf Acerola

vs Sidney - Emma Maylene Roxanne

vs Drake - Riley AS Steven Candice

vs Wallace - AS Lance Erika (Leafeon) SS Mina

You can fight them in any order. Just don't do Drake R3 and try to do Glacia R2.

I think all types are covered with this. Let me know if you face any issues.

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[manic mica]

Okay, should I do it in the way you put it? Or any different tactics?

[fading cradle]

im definitely not gonna 15k this stadium what the fuck, it’s hitting all my weak rosters

[lean lion]

For each team this Mon will tank:

Elio

Leaf

Roxanne

AS Steven

SS Mina

I'm assuming that's what you meant by tactics. Or do you mean which order you do the fights?

[manic mica]

Mhm

Order

Like that

[lean lion]

Elio should be 1

[manic mica]

Should I level them all up, and if so what level?

[lean lion]

Get everyone to level 120 if you can. That should be enough.

[manic mica]

Alright

[lean lion]

You got this!

[fading cradle]

8k points, go!

idek if i can 3k glacia with my fire team, ive heard tons of horrific things about fire weak glacia

[lean lion]

What are your options.

?

[fading cradle]

the three ex pairs here are my usual fire team members

[lean lion]

SS Hilda + Morty + Wallace will destroy the stage

Hilda can probably clear it first sync

[thorny wind]

Idk the gimmick, but ye that's a good team

[lean lion]

Just need to replace Hail or Glacia hits extremely hard

[fading cradle]

they’re my go to off type team hopefully im just overthinking it and fire weak glacia will be easier than i think she is

[lean lion]

Which stage were you planning to offtype with them?

Maybe we can come up with another team for it

[fading cradle]

im on typing glacia with them so they’re already being used, but that means i can’t use ss morty against wallace 💩💩💩

who thought permanent field effects for grass weak wallace was a good idea

[lean lion]

Depending on which damage dealer you're gonna use, slotting in a deadweight weather setter shouldn't be an issue

For eg: if you're bringing AS Lance. He'll clear by himself so just bring someone to replace Rain.

[fading cradle]

hm alright, i can probably bring ss erika along bc pretty sun

[lean lion]

Make sure you've set the correct tactics and you're good to go

[manic mica]

Just finished the medal for the first time , how does master mode work?

[manic mica]

died so fast 😦

:((*

[lean lion]

You can replay a more difficult version of each fight while setting Parameters (buffs for the enemy/debuffs for your team). To get the maximum rewards you need to clear all 5 stages with 3k points - 15k total.

There are Parameter presets in the pins of this channel. We recommend starting with the 850pt preset and working your way up as you familiarize yourself with the mode. 850pts per stage is enough to get all important rewards as a beginner.

[manic mica]

Alright thank you! about to try 2000 points as my first attempt and get mauled

[lean lion]

Is this your first sync? Are you triple queuing consistently?

[lean lion]

Nothing wrong with trying. All the best!

[manic mica]

2550 somehow..

There's no way the others are this easy , I think it's js because SS Nemona carried.

[spice ridge]

Hi. Are there any F2P recommendations for this week's CSMM?

[manic mica]

Yeah nothings working

[lean lion]

Use Karen's TM once and Dire Hit+ twice, this paired with Elio's TM should max her offensive stats. Lucian only spams Growl. You should be close to a 2nd sync when enemies get their first if you queue 3 moves consistently. Give Karen sync and then spam Dark Pulse.

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis and Silver for a start. You can f2p the others but it would be better to know your gen pools

[manic mica]

I was at 8% dmg 😞😞

[lean lion]

Is Karen gridded/can you grid her?

[undone ether]

whoaa

perma field

interesting

[true bloom]

Urghhhh using perma field backfired on me, Wallace damage became so big and that surf ASDFGGHJKLL

[manic mica]

This battle lasted for 15 minutes. At 3x speed. Poison stalling really takes time lol , atleast it was first try

[karmic zephyr]

This week was definitely a lot easier for me! Damn! I can't believe I made it!

[karmic zephyr]

Now how do I pick parameters on master mode? I mean, how do I know which ones to pick

[old orchid]

The pins have parameter sets for you to pick

Find which one suits you the best depending on the situation (your units, enemies and you playstyle)

[karmic zephyr]

I guess I'm going for the 850 points thing

[old orchid]

It's a good way to get used to master mode

Smart thinking

[karmic zephyr]

I'm having trouble with Drake

I try to beat him on round 3 to avoid the round 4 debuff

And I'm trying to off-type

But the problem is, my strikers all use special damage

I don't have any good physical ones

Unless I try to go with a tech again.

If I somehow can manage to make a tech Pokémon, a damage dealer, like I did with SS Wally to beat Sidney

[old orchid]

Well not all tech are utility heavy

You can send your roster here and we can help you choose the main dmg dealer

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah and I'll tell you what I tried to do

So, I originally tried with Hop Zamazenta, Winona Pelliper and Hugh Bouffalant

Then I tried Guzma instead of Hugh

Then Lucy

Nothing worked

[old orchid]

Hugh is 2/5 so he is not gonna work

[karmic zephyr]

Oh he worked just fine on hard mode

[old orchid]

You have 2/5 Hala, why not using him

[karmic zephyr]

I thought about it

But I wasn't sure

[old orchid]

He unlocks sync multiplier at that level already

Give him a try

[karmic zephyr]

So you're saying I should go on type

So Hala with the supports I chose?

[old orchid]

You can run him with a gauge support and a defense debuffer

His gauge is not really good

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah the thing is, I picked Pelliper for the rain dance

Because I have to remove the sandstorm

[old orchid]

So a gauge support as the tank then

[karmic zephyr]

wait let me check if I have any

I can try Phoebe Dusknoir?

hmm she's not that tanky

[old orchid]

She is not a gauge support

[karmic zephyr]

wait but it says it does charge the gauge

[old orchid]

Gauge support means who can buff speed for the whole team

Refreshing move gauge is not reliable

[karmic zephyr]

oh okay

oh so I can try Chase

or Sycamore if I plan to use Chase later

[old orchid]

Have you considered Skyla

Chase doesn't work really well with physical dmg dealers

[karmic zephyr]

But how is Skyla a gauge support?

[old orchid]

Read her TM please

[karmic zephyr]

oh so gauge support means buffing speed?

I thought something else

[old orchid]

Yes, like what i told you 2 mins ago

[karmic zephyr]

oh right

hahaha

yeah I didn't see that

Oh I have 3 support move candies

I should use them on her right

?

my damage isn't enough

I don't know what I'm doing wrong

No there's definitely something wrong. My sync does like 2%

I feel like the whole team is wrong

oh I can try Candice Abomasnow

the damage is better but still not nearly enough

[old orchid]

Hala is overall better because both his sync and dps are good

Grid him with Haymaker at least

And definitely candy Skyla to 3/5

[karmic zephyr]

I keep forgetting about the grids because my pairs are usually 1/5

[old orchid]

Check your params again, make sure to adjust them to allow Hala reach his peak performance

[karmic zephyr]

Do I have any other pokemon I can off-type?

I'm thinking Cynthia for Wallace and Marnie for Phoebe

[old orchid]

You don't need to offtype both of them

SS Erika and Sidney will carry

[karmic zephyr]

Sadly I already used SS Erika

[old orchid]

Then offtyping is perfectly fine

[karmic zephyr]

yeah but with which pair

[lean lion]

AS Cynthia counter Wallace pretty well. Choose perma weather param here.

[karmic zephyr]

I'm not there yet but okay

Also, I finally beat Drake!

Phewww

BUTTTT, I might regret it because I used my Articuno

which is definitely one of my strongest pokemon

we'll see

I want to ask

how do I pick pre and post sync?

like what does it mean exactly?

Is it if my pokemon mega evolves or changes movesets after sync?

[lean lion]

Pre-sync means to clear the stage before the enemy can sync. The params are set accordingly by giving the enemy minimal bulk and trying to KO them as fast as possible.

Post-sync is making the enemies tankier while making their offenses weak so you can survive their sync. It's outliving the enemy in a way.

Which one you wanna go for depends on your team.

[karmic zephyr]

ohhhh

okayy okay

got it

thanks

I wanna try pre sync

I'm on Phoebe and I think Marnie is my strongest pair

[lean lion]

Hoenn CS stages are generally recommended to presync since most of them hit kinda hard. It's tough to outlive them without having top tier/well-invested supports.

[old orchid]

Have you looked into your 3/5 Sidney

[lean lion]

Phoebe has SEx2

[karmic zephyr]

does she now? damn, lucky her

[old orchid]

Oops, but he should still work

[karmic zephyr]

hahaha

damn, I totally slayed Phoebe

2500 points

And I feel like I could even get 3k

I just didn't want to push it considering it's my first time in master mode

[lean lion]

You can always reset later to try with more pts

[karmic zephyr]

I feel like for my level, 2500 is more than enough

Okay let's see, for Wallace I'm going with Cynthia and my 2 Hops

nevermind, I forgot to check my parameters

[lean lion]

Bring a sp def buffer, all of Wallace's attacks are Special

[karmic zephyr]

But I thought you said that I should pre-sync

so what's the point of trying to deffend?

[manic mica]

For the round 4 param (physical damage reduction) does Crit bypass it?

[lean lion]

Cynthia maxes her own offenses so you're better off bringing someone to help the team Survive Wallace's attacks better. Hop is a physical tank, he might struggle to stay alive vs special moves.

[lean lion]

Yes, crits bypass it. But it prevents quad queue.

[manic mica]

Alr ty

[karmic zephyr]

mhm okay, good advice

I need to adjust my parameters first

Is it too ambitious to try 3k?

the answer is yes

[lean lion]

Now you know

[karmic zephyr]

hahhaa

I literally dealt no damage

I should totally try going for 850

[lean lion]

It's alright to lower the pts a little. It's your first time afterall.

[karmic zephyr]

true

[toxic cobalt]

Sounds like you used defence and hp params

[karmic zephyr]

I didn't use any defence I think. But I did use HP

oh I did use a defence one yeah

It's definitely ambitious to go for 3k yeah

I totally can't

[gritty sentinel]

are there any 3k mm params?

for post and pre sync?

[lean lion]

Points beyond 2.5k are heavily dependent on your team/setup/roster. You can go over this write-up to better understand which params to pick based on your team
#1009554906568462476 message

[gritty sentinel]

can you help me make them

im going 2 off type and 3 on type for this week

i can give u my teams if u need them

[lean lion]

Sure go ahead

I have to go away for a bit but I'm sure someone will be over to help. If not I'll take a look once I'm back.

[gritty sentinel]

asc and ss serena is exr and 3/5(i hope they can clear offtype)

[sacred scroll]

With how powerful they are I have no doubt they can

Just make sure to line your parameters up right

[gritty sentinel]

for my offtypes should i go pre or post

[karmic zephyr]

I did it! Nice!

Is 6k good for the first time?

Considering I got 2.5k from Phoebe alone

I suppose it works

[sacred scroll]

AS Cynthia can likely pre, NC Serena likely post unless she has EXR?

[gritty sentinel]

she does have exr

i should probably change my super syncer tile for smth else as well

[sacred scroll]

Yeah

[gritty sentinel]

theres nothing i can add really

btw should i replace gloria alt with smth else

like leon for double striker?

[sacred scroll]

Who is syncing after SS Morty?

[gritty sentinel]

prob red

i have him on nuke

gloria is 1/5 btw

[sacred scroll]

Oop

Hm, try Alt Gloria first for Rebuff and cheap Pyro balls? What move level is your Leon?

[gritty sentinel]

only 1/5 leon

what params i can add to get 3k

i need 500 more pts

if im using alt gloria i should prob get rid physical dmg reduction then right

[sacred scroll]

Nah, those ones always stay on cuz crits ignore them

Try the one in pins as a template first?

[gritty sentinel]

no the one with 8

[sacred scroll]

Oh

[gritty sentinel]

already did

[sacred scroll]

Oh true yeah, you're mixing arentcha

[gritty sentinel]

i need like 600 more if im getting rid of those

[sacred scroll]

Yeah get rid of Alt Gloria for Leon unless you can find a way to take both Phys and Spe off

[gritty sentinel]

no stat reduc, max hp 4, atk sp atk 5, def sp def 5

would it make it too hard?

lemme try first

[sacred scroll]

Good luck

[gritty sentinel]

nvm im switching alt gloria

should i use pre sync params or post sync params for ss serena

shes 3/5 and ex role

[lean lion]

I think Serena can presync

[frozen hearth]

sweetness

[gritty sentinel]

serena cant pre sync with 3k params

ill try post sync now

[lean lion]

Which stage are fighting with Serena again?

[karmic zephyr]

congrats! I did the same today!!! Good luck with master mode cause it's hard

[frozen hearth]

congrats to you too. I guess its time to spend all of my free time Ex-ing everyone

[gritty sentinel]

sidney

[karmic zephyr]

thanks!!!

[frozen hearth]

lance just ploughed through that last fight like it was nothing. Bro's got no chill 😭😭

[gritty sentinel]

aight i give up, i aint 3k offtyping serena

[lean lion]

Send your params or what other option do you have available?

[gritty sentinel]

it was copied from the template and i added max hp2, atk spatk 3, def and sp def 3,sync cd -1, def sp def 1, and strength 1

[gritty sentinel]

serena is probably my best dps aside from cmarnie and asc

cmarnie is used and asc will be used to off type drake

[manic mica]

My first ever master mode clear! I really didn't know what I was doing but I think I did well. Is it decent for a first attempt?

[fading cradle]

12.5k points in a first time master mode run is actually very solid, congrats

[manic mica]

Oh alright , thank you!

[gritty sentinel]

bro i cant even clear sidney with serena

would a bp valerie team work on this stage

[lean lion]

Try these params

[gritty sentinel]

okay

[lean lion]

This is very very good for a first attempt. Well done!!

[gritty sentinel]

lucian serena lucas right

[lean lion]

Yeah

[gritty sentinel]

whos getting hit

first

[manic mica]

Tysm. Drake really dropped me down or else I would've gotten 13k but nonetheless Im happy with what I've done especially alone lmao

[lean lion]

If you're struggling to clear off type, BP Marnie is capable of clearing 3k with good support

[manic mica]

Sorry to disturb but I think you meant BP Valerie?

[gritty sentinel]

i have ss mina and ss wally

but theyre both at 1/5

[lean lion]

Yeah I meant Valerie sorry

[gritty sentinel]

so

replace lucian or nah

[lean lion]

Yeah that should be enough

[manic mica]

Np just wanted to make sure

[gritty sentinel]

wait so should i use the valerie team or serena team

[lean lion]

You did very well. Definitely a run to be proud of.

[lean lion]

Valerie team would probably clear easier. Is Wally EXRd?

[gritty sentinel]

no but i can exr him

im tryna get a good fairy dps rn

valerie is all i have

[lean lion]

How about Mina? EXd?

[gritty sentinel]

yes

all ex'd

including valerie

just that mina and wally is 1/5

[lean lion]

You'll be fine. Valerie can definitely clear with supp EX + Fairy Zone no problem

[gritty sentinel]

aight

[lean lion]

Give them low bulk and it should be a smooth clear

[gritty sentinel]

we doing pre or post for this run

[lean lion]

Pre

[karmic zephyr]

nice! good job!

[gritty sentinel]

bp valerie's sync didnt even do half

[lean lion]

You need to alternate between Swords Dance (gives Valerie Supereffective Up Next) and Play Rough. Also, Sync with SS Mina first for the supp EX.

[gritty sentinel]

wait i thought were doing pre sync

[lean lion]

Yeah

[gritty sentinel]

btw valerie needs to use her tm 2 times to max out crit

[lean lion]

So do TM, TM, Swords Dance, Play Rough, Swords Dance, Swords Dance, Sync.

And another correction on my part, Sync with Wally first. His passive (Head Start 1) will allow you to get to a 2nd sync. Valerie takes 2nd Sync.

If this doesn't work out, you could even replace Mina with a support to help Valerie with crit maxing so she can start doing damage faster.

[gritty sentinel]

should i try a post sync build

ill just do 2.5 k

nothings working

ill attempt 15k when i get better pair

[lean lion]

It should be possible to 3k with your team. But it's okay to drop down to 2.5k if you're struggling too much.

[gritty sentinel]

im still getting a 14.5k run(thank god for asc offtyping 3k easily)

[lean lion]

That's an excellent score

[gritty sentinel]

ill wait till i get some better units then ill attempt 15k again

thanks for all the help tho

[fading cradle]

i dont think im gonna aim for 15k this week since this week is hitting a lot of my weak rosters, so i kinda just need some assistance building some decent teams for csmm

[lean lion]

Build your teams around BP Valerie, Karen, Hala, Mallow and SS Hilda. Some of the clears will be tight, but it might be possible to 15k with some resetting and luck.

If any of these options feel weak, you can always off-type with one of your stronger damage dealers or even poison stall as a worst case.

Send your teams here once you're done and someone will review them

[manic mica]

Also one thing I'd like to say is that oak and Nidoran is broken on the permanent field effect param since that means his so def reduction is also permanent, helped a ton against Wallace

[fading cradle]

honestly idek what im doing lol

[lean lion]

Sidney, Phoebe and Glacia teams look fine.

vs Drake, replace Falkner with a physical buffer/tank - Hop is good fit.

vs Wallace, pick perma weather param and make sure to use Teeter Dance right before Mallow sync

if you struggle too much, its also an option to offtype Sidney with an AS Lance team and Wallace with a NC Silver team

[true bloom]

Glacia overkill!

[lean lion]

Yeah lol, Glacia is getting obliterated

[blazing perch]

Is 3k reachable or should I offtype?

[lean lion]

3k doable with SS Nemona

[nocturne pawn]

is phoebe an x2 stage

i forgot

[paper summit]

yes, Phoebe, Drake and Wallace have Entry x2 passives going on

she's Sentry, the other 2 Wise

[blazing perch]

Should I use arc steven?

[lean lion]

Depends on if you need him for another team. Personally, I'd save Arc Steven for another round. SS Nemona doesn't need much help.

[blazing perch]

Yeah i cleared it easy with nemona

What about this can I do 2-3k?

I think marnie can do it

[lean lion]

Yeah

[blazing perch]

I think fire roster is not good for 3k

Any suggestions?

[lean lion]

Try SS Red, Mix Blue and support that can buff special defense and +1 crit.

+1 is crit is optional. Just that you won't have to spend an additional turn maxing Red's crit.

NC Bede works

[blazing perch]

Ok I will give it a go

[blazing perch]

Holy shit I got 1 shot lol can’t manage 2,5k with this roster

[lean lion]

Did you give them atk params?

[blazing perch]

The 2,5k preset

From pin

[lean lion]

Try switching atk 3 and atk 5 for strength 2 and interference immunity

Wait, which 2.5k preset are you using exactly? I assumed it's 2.5k on-type presync (more damage)

[nocturne pawn]

oh thats why sidney isnt killing thanks for reminding me

[clear breach]

Do yall think I can get to 3K with any of these units?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes

Hilda EX should do very well

[blazing perch]

On type post sync

[fading cradle]

the gauge is so damn slow

[blazing perch]

Damn I’m having trouble with glacia

[errant needle]

Stupid question but how do I see pinned posts? Looking for the champion stadium point suggestions

On the phone app

[karmic zephyr]

Click on the channel name on the top of where you're writing now. Then you'll see the member list, click settings above that and pinned messages

[errant needle]

Perfect thank you, don’t remember having to make that extra step

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they changed it. You're welcome

Or it's maybe because we're in a thread of a thread

[nocturne pawn]

+pins

[frozen depot]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[errant needle]

So post sync is prob best with teams that have a striker that benefits heavily after sync?

[karmic zephyr]

No I wouldn't say so. Post sync is better for teams who have tanky pairs that buff your def a lot. The pre/post sync, is referring to the enemy's sync. Not yours

[errant needle]

Ahhhh ok

[karmic zephyr]

Mhm

Pre sync is for pairs that can easily kill the enemy before the enemy syncs

[errant needle]

So glass canon setup vs tanky setup basically, and when it says on type is it referring to the entire team/2 of 3 or just striker

[karmic zephyr]

Just the striker. Meaning, if you choose to battle the enemy facing the enemy's weakness

And off type means that you just use a strong pair that's not the enemy's weakness

[errant needle]

Ok cool, I like that we can setup presets in game, choosing is a pain with this graphic layout

[karmic zephyr]

Look at me guiding people when I literally just learned about these too 😂

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah, that's very helpful! I use that too

[errant needle]

If you feel confident in what you learned it makes sense to share the info 😊

[karmic zephyr]

Mhm, true.

I started the game like 15 days ago or so

So all is still fresh

[spring yoke]

Is arc Steven + solgaleos or Steven + Lionillie + jirachi better for brainless off typing. I'd have to change params for Tate idk if it's worth it

[old orchid]

Whichever you like more, changing 100 pts for both reduction turning off does not matter

[lean lion]

What support options are available?

Edit: looked over you roster. You can try Leaf or Skyla to replace Hop.

[lean lion]

Can you show your params?

[blazing perch]

They are the pinned on type post sync

2,5k

I have ss Hilda too now

[lean lion]

Replace SS Red with SS Hilda and go with the on-type presync (more HP) preset. But replace Physical Dmg Reduction (100) with Interference Immunity (50) and tech pair x3 damage (50). Make sure to replace Hail with Blue's Max Move at the start.

[blazing perch]

Ok I will give it a go thanks

Damn it stays alive with 15% hp then sync and heals

Only the centre

[lean lion]

Are you getting 2 syncs before enemy sync? But either way, I don't think it should matter. Your team can KO mid before they sync.

[blazing perch]

I only get 1 sync before I die

And the enemy has like 15% hp left then sync and I die

Maybe I need to change the support

[lean lion]

Setup Sun, use Hilda and Blue's TM (Blue's TM on himself) then spam V-Create and Blue's B-move.

I don't think changing the support will make too much of a difference but you can send your support options here and we'll see if someone else works better

[blazing perch]

Let me redo it

Btw don’t have neither of them ex

[lean lion]

Should be fine for 2.5k even without EX

[lean lion]

It's also possible that Hilda missed crit on mid. So yeah give it another go.

[old orchid]

Don't stack too many defensive params, so they can clear faster

[lean lion]

They're running the 2.5k preset from pins. No def or HP params.

On type presync (more hp)

[old orchid]

I see

[lean lion]

Maybe Hilda's sync didn't crit mid

[blazing perch]

Still dying hmmm I’m doing something wrong I feel like I’m missing something

[lean lion]

Glacia sets hail again right before syncing. So you might need to replace it if you can't KO mid before that.

Could try switching Mix Blue for Blaine but this is a last resort kinda thing.

You can either record the run so we can take a look to see if something is wrong? Or send a screenshot of your support pairs so we can replace Bede for a more defensive oriented support?

[blazing perch]

I will try replacing bede 1 time then I will record the run

Lmao I did it because it missed the blizzard on hilda😂

I guess I offtype this?

[blazing perch]

Thanks btw 😊

[lean lion]

Try on typing with N. Use Freeze Shock since Drake has Wise Entry x 2.

[blazing perch]

What supports?

[blazing perch]

Same params as glacia?

[lean lion]

You'll need a physical tank and someone to replace Sandstorm.

Might need to adjust params a little depending on which team we settle on