Champion Stadium

[harsh hollow]

Alright

Yesh i kinda saved her for this

[fading cradle]

i would probably go with use special moves against opponents with low special defense if i had that team

[harsh hollow]

Well that was easy

I thought the final fight was gonna be harder

[fading cradle]

nah cynthia is a breeze

the elite four are demons compared to her

[harsh hollow]

Fr, i dont know how i got through that with a box full of undergraded units

[fading cradle]

e4 on csmm are just 💀

[void estuary]

Who should I use with og cynthia + new cynthia? I also have hippo bertha

[undone ether]

uh, i'm ssure you can run both cynthias on seperate teams...

[swift swan]

and you don't need bertha. arc cynthia has enough sandstorm for the both of them

[void estuary]

Ooo do you just suggest a general tank w the 2 cynthias garchomp?

[undone ether]

what move level for og cynthia? o.o

[void estuary]

5/5

[undone ether]

honestly, i've got cynthia 5/5. and about to roll for arc cynthia. for team members, i'm thinking of ingo 2. speed/crit/atk .-./

[void estuary]

She was the first banner I played back in the day haha. I'm a cyn simp

[undone ether]

i basically held back on monday, and will be clearing csmm after the festive banner pulling xd

[swift swan]

yes, just a general tank is fine

[trail cypress]

can anyone of these nuke harder than alder. I'm struggling to finish mid off in 2nd sync

[swift swan]

iirc lucian has wise entry x2, that's why alder is doing less damage than expected

you can try powerboosted Guzma

[trail cypress]

ohh, didn't realise that.

thanks nov9

[manic kiln]

bertha who?
head start?
f2p can clear just fine but with Lillie it should be way easier now, just avoid getting earthquake

[swift swan]

double solga

[mighty pollen]

What’s the easiest preset to make for your opponent to reach 3k points per battle?

[manic kiln]

Lillie still 1/5

[manic kiln]

there's no easiest preset, depends on your units/team anyway

[swift swan]

3k is very team reliant. at best we have a 2.5k preset on pins

check the pinned message explaining what to add for 3k

[mighty pollen]

Is there any recommendations on what to use? Cause I need to hit all 15k points because of lack of champion spirits

[old orchid]

again, we can't give recommendations without knowing your roster

that's why you were asked to send your roster here in the other day

[mighty pollen]

It won’t download the full roster. I’m trying to download it, but it doesn’t want to show my whole roster

That website only sent me 142 sync pairs out of my 280

[old orchid]

you can try using that site on desktop, or simply send your whole ingame roster

[undone ether]

are you using chrome, feathers? ;o

[mighty pollen]

Safari

[undone ether]

hrm. try using chrome

you can backup your selection

export to save it in text form. import to make the site read your text form save.

[swift swan]

it depends on your team. there are some rounds you need to be wary of ( ) but other than that it's up to you

[mighty pollen]

@undone ether I guess this’ll do

[undone ether]

nice it woorked. just make sure to hide sync pairs you dont have, order by role... an etc.

[old orchid]

you should separate your pairs by using roles and type separators for easier understanding

as well as hide non owned pairs

[manic kiln]

sort by type -> sort by role -> click show seperators

[old orchid]

+tracker please watch this tutorial

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[mighty pollen]

Wait that’s not it? Cause that’s my whole roster

[old orchid]

that's not what we meant

we asked you to make it easier to understand

[swift swan]

pleasae check out this gif

[manic kiln]

just a few more click so it's easier to read

[swift swan]

of course, though Hau contributes nothing

+pomatools you can check out the battles' gimmick. Aaron wants status change so you deal more damage (though with arc cynthia i doubt you will be affected), so I would consider bringing someone who can trap/confuse

[frozen depot]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs

[manic kiln]

just for type medal filler use a trash type, cynthia and blue can carry

something like poison or bug

[undone ether]

something like this. the seperators.

[swift swan]

you can try offtyping then

[old orchid]

she can

[swift swan]

don't stress about it too much

18 types can be completed across two weeks

it doesn't matter if you repeat some types, especially a type as common as water

right now's the last week of Sinnoh unfortunately

but either way if this is your first time tackling Sinnoh CS, you can't complete the medal before the region rotates

so it doesn't matter if you repeat some types, you can always complete it once sinnoh comes back and your roster is more built

[mighty pollen]

@undone ether It did it again 😒

And I’m on Chrome while doing this

[undone ether]

either you're haaving problems with your phone's memory or you're having trouble with your connection.... but mostly on your phone's memory ;<

[mighty pollen]

Why is this game and its websites so frustrating to use

At least PoMaTools is simple and easy to work with

[undone ether]

likee i feel they're missing the images to load .-.;

[manic kiln]

yeah the tracker on mobile is not that good, it's good on desktop tho

Anyway BP Rose is pretty decent too, with EX he should be much better. Steel got some solid f2p for the upcoming steel pasio CS

[old orchid]

Bertha and Glacia both being featured in the special CS is rough

[manic kiln]

they release 4 new steel units this anni they really bait people into rolling new units to clear contents, same for DC and HSE

[undone ether]

god i hate bertha. ;x

[gleaming jolt]

I used Riley with Poppy to speed things up!

[fading cradle]

wow, is bertha really easier with the new lillie

[blazing perch]

I guess I have to offtype 😂

[toxic cobalt]

Types are rough this week

[blazing perch]

Especially for me 😂

I’m having trouble with bug only

[toxic cobalt]

Bugsy is your best unit there

Don't forget you can poison stall

[mellow linden]

Bugsy + Noland or Lusamine can probably dual damage-dealer it, but yeah, off-type or Poison stall might be easier

[blazing perch]

I already poison stall I don’t think I have other team for more poison stall

[toxic cobalt]

Lucy Janine and Leaf

Koga Ghetsis and BP Morty

[blazing perch]

Yeah I used them

[blazing perch]

I have used bp Morty Lucy and Janine

[toxic cobalt]

Well do you have Leaf?

[blazing perch]

Yeah I think so

[toxic cobalt]

Can build around her as a tank if you want

[blazing perch]

Poison stall?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, someone else poisons, she stalls

Looks like Lucian is mostly special so you can run Surge or something stupid to debuff

[blazing perch]

What if I beat it with low points and then reset and use morty Lucy and Janine

[toxic cobalt]

Who did you stall with them?

[blazing perch]

For higher points

Bertha

[toxic cobalt]

Lol you managed to stall steel-weak bertha? respect

You can see the possibilities in https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1097597679015567420

If you don't want to run Bugsy Noland try a high point stall

[blazing perch]

I will try with noland then try poison stall

Is this a poison stall team?

[toxic cobalt]

Uh it can be but Leaf would be much better than Liza

[blazing perch]

So viola leaf and koga

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah that's decent. Viola is good for trap and debuff

[blazing perch]

Should I just offtype it with nc cheren? And some supports? Cause I need to invest in them and I don’t have many materials for level cap

[toxic cobalt]

If you want

[blazing perch]

I will do some team comp tries

Thanks

[lethal flame]

Noland is really good you need the good support for him but he works well

But I feel you I spent the most time on Lucian

[blazing perch]

I just offtype him with nc cheren

For 1.7k points on reset I will poison stall for more

[blazing perch]

Any decent team to try flint for 1,5k preset

[fiery agate]

is there like a weekly news post or video for strats?

[toxic cobalt]

Not really, CS repeats so this has all been done before in previous weeks.

[gleaming jolt]

Try building around Selene alt

1.5k should be doable even at 1/5!

[grim lagoon]

ground weak aaron took everything and a half out of me

my usual tricks almost didnt work, although shoutout to darach obama for spamming feather dance

this is my first attempt at master mode, and i'm trying 1850 points

im worried im going to need to blow up all my good sustains

between flint, lucian, and bertha, who should I 1v1 next?

[toxic cobalt]

Well done for a first attempt!!

What temas do you have for them?

[grim lagoon]

i don't...know???

im just sort of adapting on the fly

again, i just finished my first MM battle vs aaron

i havent like,, cleared the whole thing

[toxic cobalt]

Did you clear them on hard mode?

[grim lagoon]

yeah

i got the 18 types and all

[toxic cobalt]

Who were your damage dealers for those?

[grim lagoon]

i blew up aaron with ss silver/arc cynthia/kiawe
lucian fell to ss misty/burgh/sycamore
bertha died to solgaleo/ssa cynthia/nc nate
flint bowed to ghetsis/nc rosa/fantina
cynthia keeled over to volkner/sst red/nc bianca

actually should i just send my box

[toxic cobalt]

I see the issues tranferring the teams

[grim lagoon]

yeah they were sort of just

whatever

lol

i mostly just wanted the emblem so i kind of chose some unusual pairs

[lost gulch]

what the heck all cynthias team clear bertha off type so easily

even when bertha is so bulky af

[toxic cobalt]

I would complain if that team didn't clear Bertha!

[grim lagoon]

wait aaron reduced damage when his stats arent lowered?

jeez no wonder i was having trouble

looking through the kits i think it might be bertha

but then i don't exactly have good options for bertha...

[toxic cobalt]

Bertha is probably the hardest stage of any CS

[grim lagoon]

best to get her out the way then...

throwing SST red at her might be tantamount to suicide, but ill try it anyway

maybe my standard SST red/volkner/nc rosa comp will do it

[toxic cobalt]

I am not sure Volkner helps too much there but not a bad team

[grim lagoon]

volkner just sets terrain so red can do his steroids

i've turned interference off because of cynthia, so he can also fish for flinches

[toxic cobalt]

You don't have red gridded to create terrain with his max move?

Hmm wait sleep doesn't work in electric terrain

[grim lagoon]

pmun is good enouogh reason to bring rosa

as for my grid...let me check

oh shit i havent gridded this mf at all

[lost gulch]

i even put the SE nerf

and she almost can clear presync (enemy left like 30-40%)

[grim lagoon]

oh right he's still 1/5

i put my candies into steven

eh yep volkner got wiped on the first sync

im not doing decent damage anywag

ill try some geeta set up or something

this is me forgetting geeta also is ground weak

[wheat tree]

Hi wheres the preset for 3k

How do i find the pinned messages here

[grim lagoon]

brother is it not on the upper right

if on mobile swipe left

[wheat tree]

I really cant find

Im on mobile

[toxic cobalt]

Click title, settings, pinned messages

[wheat tree]

Thank you finally

[grim lagoon]

i have been summarily wiped

i will try again tomorrow

good night

[wheat tree]

Thanks

[bitter peak]

it's "hilarious" that this team (cynthia 1/5) can beat 4.7k CSMM

Ig max cynthia can beat the stage with almost max parameters

[median kindle]

What order should I pick for the sinnoh championship

[mellow linden]

Outside of maybe wanting to avoid Lucian on Round 2 it doesn’t really matter

[royal flicker]

wow 3k points with just this (Aaron battle)

[bitter veldt]

is it true after beating 3 of them the maximum points you can earn ups to 4k?

[mellow linden]

No

3k per stage is the maximum you can get on rewards

You can keep adding parameters beyond 3k, but it won’t do anything other than make the fight harder

[bitter veldt]

oh ok... someone said that or i misunderstood them on another channel.

is there also no ideal "settings" on this channel or thats something we have to individually check boxes based on whatsync we have

[mellow linden]

There’s parameter recommendations up to 2.5k per stage in the pins, but 3k is very dependent on your team and preferred playstyle

If you’re new to Master Mode I’d recommend trying the 850 per stage or 1500 per stage parameter recommendations before trying to go higher

[bitter veldt]

i'm a month and closing to 2 weeks. 2 weeks ago i set my bar expectations at like 1100~1300 for each and finished it with HARD effort. but with cynthia OMG i just tried 2000 and still killed Aaron whom I hate passionately but quit it right before winning so as to maximize my earning. I am getting greedy after getting this cynthia.

[supple reef]

Cynthia should be an easy 3k, I was able to get 3k with her solo using parameters I just yoinked from a clear with her in it

[bitter veldt]

I'll cry though after having used her up for Aaron when I face the other 4 T.T

[peak lark]

so, would the ideal team construction be just, primary attacker of that type with two supporters to buff?

[mellow linden]

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a / striker or a tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

[mellow linden]

It’s more 1 damage-dealer/1 Support/1 flex slot, those guidelines above have a little more detail

[supple reef]

A bit random and I'm not 100% sure this resource exists, but is there any kind of doc for sync pairs that can solo clear 3k MM for certain stages? I have... ideas

[mellow linden]

@kindred heron is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[kindred heron]

Master mode on

[mellow linden]

What are your parameters?

[fading cradle]

and are you trying to do presync or postsync

[kindred heron]

I'm changing them all the times so don't have specific ones

[mellow linden]

Can you show us the ones you have currently set?

[kindred heron]

That's the last one I tried, not optimized very well, but nothing else worked xd

Usually I try not giving power on hit

[mellow linden]

The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters are a free 100 points total, as they only set Reflect & Light Screen which are ignored by critical hits

[brave halo]

Hmm so wondering, what would be the optimal steel team having arcsteven in it? I'm getting thrown off thanks to the Sentry x2 and he's physical

[kindred heron]

Oh didn't know that

[brave halo]

This isn't assuming I am able to pull him, but since they want steel, and he's gonna most likely be the focus, it throws me off

[mellow linden]

If you’re specifically talking about Steel weak Glacia then Steel Zone can generally help offset the Entry x2 passives

But don’t overthink the connection, Hoenn just happened to line up to be the region that happened during anniversary

SS Hilbert debuted during Sinnoh CS, iirc

[brave halo]

Fair enough

[mellow linden]

And so Bug weak Lucian

[brave halo]

Actually wait

Was poppy released during hoenn, I'm blanking

[mellow linden]

How often are you selecting Critical Hit Defense? Because that parameter is absolutely screwing over your attempts

I’d recommend checking the pinned parameter recommendations to use as a base and adding/adjusting parameters as needed

[kindred heron]

Never, idk how it got selected xd must have been missclic on crit def xd

Ust have been so annoyed that I clicked it by mistake

[mellow linden]

Maybe do a run without that on, if you didn’t select it intentionally it may have been active the whole time

[kindred heron]

I did before

With this I only did run once

[mellow linden]

Then try using a parameter set from the pins as a base like I suggested before

Poppy with Steel Rebuff and a good gauge Support should be having little to no issue destroying Bertha

[kindred heron]

Should I go with power up or HP up?

[mellow linden]

Try both and see what works best for you

3k is gonna be a good bit of trial and error, sadly

You can also try post-Sync parameters if needed

[brave halo]

OK I might be dumb but I think I got my team actually

[kindred heron]

I mean for couple months I do all 3k all the time sometimes I have block and it take like 2 days to get good ring , it's first time that I couldn't make it work

[kindred heron]

Stautlant dies practically to 1 EQ even with buffs xd

Nidorino survives pretty well

[brave halo]

Wrong stage bud

[kindred heron]

Oh ok

[brave halo]

This is next week glacia, originally wanted to use raihan but ehhh I'm more worried about the power of glacia there

I'd imagine this team should be fine right? Even with the Sentry x2?

[kindred heron]

Will Lilly solgaleo be good against Bertha?

I think I will give up on poppy she is too slow

Or arc Steven?

[brave halo]

Have you tried hop or someone?

Or a speed raiser?

If you happen to have argenta by chance, she runs great with poppy

[kindred heron]

Tried speed raise, and have hop on lvl 100 and don't have resource for him

I'm tryin rose right naw

[brave halo]

How about skyla?

I actually did have fun yesterday with argenta, rose, and poppy all at once

[kindred heron]

Don't have argentan pair

[brave halo]

Then maybe skyla if invested

She's a freebie argenta thanks to tm

[kindred heron]

Ye a was thinking about trying her

I'll upgrade rose and try later finish this fight

[brave halo]

If anything, you can think of poppy as like a tech in disguise, sure a lot of techs can hit hard nowadays and she's no different, but techs do have stuff like status, stat debuffs, etc

And poppy has both, and if skyla gets at least 1 mpr on her tm, that's +6 speed on herself and poppy, with +5 on rose, which is more than enough

And especially wait to use gmax till after skyla syncs if she is ex

[kindred heron]

Donylt have skyla ex

[brave halo]

OK then swing with either poppy or rose depending on the b move activation

Then quickly go into gmax on rose, cause it'll definitely be tougher there with no support ex

[mellow linden]

She'd be a solid option, yeah

[brave halo]

I've yet to get lillie myself cause the arc event, but I'm close to it, but I'd imagine she does well

[grand trout]

Do we have inforgraphic yet

For the pasio cs

[brave halo]

Most I know is red focuses on ice zone over hail this time

And more power based on defense debuffs

[grand trout]

Also isn't it weird that they suddenly shifted to steel

[brave halo]

So in other words, scselene but I could be wrong

[mellow linden]

This anniversary has had a big trend of re-using assets and giving minor changes

[grand trout]

Like all the types so far have been 'basic' (grass, water, electric, psychic, etc)

[mellow linden]

So I'm not totally surprised that they re-used NC Red and just changed the type weakness/stage gimmick

[grand trout]

Steel is def one of the most "out there" types

[brave halo]

Well we do get two recently

[grand trout]

Im just surprised they didn't use rock

[brave halo]

Lillie and steven

If anything, I could imagine the best for red is lillie/rose/poppy, scsteven, and skyla/argenta

[grand trout]

I think ill use scelene

[brave halo]

Yeah from the way it sounds, she is practically mandatory cause she negates everything red has tmk

[mellow linden]

There are plenty of other ways to get around Ice Zone + Defense buffs gimmick

Especially now that we have several free Zone setters from Damage Challenge

[sharp willow]

DC Nemona especially would do a good job at countering it

[brave halo]

Fair enough but I worry that the defense debuffing will happen every single hit

I probably misworded and should say the stage seems more designed toward her

[mellow linden]

The opponent isn’t guaranteed to attack every turn, so just slapping in Sonia as the Support will pretty much cover it

[brave halo]

OK sonia is a fair choice, I guess I'm so used to seeing an eq on every stage

Well assuming there is no ground moves by sides or something

[mellow linden]

In some cases Ground Moves aren’t even the end of the world for Sonia

[brave halo]

True but still hurt

I think the scariest tho is gonna be glacia x.x

[manic kiln]

Both bertha and glacia steel weak can be presync using f2p units if you use dual dps, head start or sentry entry x2 is not a problem at all using limited unit might not be better if they’re 1/5, most steel units are slow

[brave halo]

Bertha I don't think should be a problem here, it's just glacia with that Sentry, especially for myself rocking only raihan

[mellow linden]

Raihan should be plenty with a proper team supporting him

[brave halo]

I've had trouble figuring out, I'll need to check my old vods and see what I used last time if I have

Oh I did last time, lodge dawn, raihan, and nc serena

Idk maybe I could rock with this for that but I could be just dumb

[undone ether]

Ohhhh iron head gaming o.o

[brave halo]

You mention iron head gaming?

I even made it funnier in the vod where I used crash twinsanity ost

[undone ether]

No rose here .-.

[brave halo]

In case you don't know the ost, or a capella, so it's hilarious but epic

[brave halo]

Hot damn, either I'm using wrong params or 1/5 arc cynthia can't solo 3k aaron, I was hoping to do so

[mellow linden]

Solo as in only Sync Pair or solo as in only damage-dealer on the team?

[supple reef]

probably inspired by #1191734893886066908 message where I used 5/5 exr

[brave halo]

I was wanting to see if it was possible but damn

She gets curbstomped

[karmic zephyr]

So I need some help

I used this and it never worked

I know there's no damage dealer but I was thinking based on the tips

The tips say to use Sandstorm, so I only had Acerola for that

Lower their Attack (so I use Kyurem)

And use Rock Tomb to trap Drapion (so I use Coalossal)

So why did it never work out?

[old orchid]

Rock Tomb can't trap

you don't have a real support in that team

[karmic zephyr]

Not only that, Acerola is 3rd in tactics and for some weird she gets targeted first

[old orchid]

please read her TM

[karmic zephyr]

Oh, but I'm pretty sure the tips said Rock Tomb

[old orchid]

you meant Sand Tomb

[karmic zephyr]

Ohhh

I'm dumb 😂

[old orchid]

but it's not a good team at all

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah I saw that 😂😂😂

I just don't have any ground types

This mode feels so hard

[supple reef]

Acerola is also tactic 1 in the screenshot you provided

+101 getting the link to this resource out of the way as I believe all of this will be relevant in constructing a good enough team to clear Aaron

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a / striker or a tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

[supple reef]

ah it doesn’t mention tactics presumably because you learned about them from Victory Road?

[old orchid]

unfortunately Sinnoh is on the harder side

when Kanto, Johto, Unova or Alola returns, you will find them a lot easier

[grim lagoon]

why bertha's HP so fat

real difficult to break past her haha

[old orchid]

she got the highest HP possible

28960

[grim lagoon]

aaron has the same hp and he wasnt nearly as difficult..but then again ig that's because i had actual SE options for him

[karmic zephyr]

wait that's true but that doesn't make any sense because I specifically placed her at the bottom

[grim lagoon]

read her TM

[karmic zephyr]

what's her TM and how do I read it

[grim lagoon]

her trainer move makes her the target for a lil while

do you not read your pair's moves...?

[karmic zephyr]

I do

[cinder summit]

:information_source: | No move found with that name

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Over Here!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 1
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Makes opponents target the user for a short time. Applies the Gradual Healing effect to the user.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Acerola & Palossand

[karmic zephyr]

Yes I read that but I never used that move

[old orchid]

in that screenshot, your Acerola is targetted first in the tactics

[grim lagoon]

in this ss acerola is clearly first in tactics

even if shes in the bottom

you need to go into the tactics menu to specifically change the target priority

[karmic zephyr]

I did that

[grim lagoon]

let's see it?

[karmic zephyr]

Just forget it, it was a bad team anyway

[grim lagoon]

mind you this wont change their positions in the team

[lost gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXYY9X8WOwU

4250 points offtype

[royal flicker]

Viable to 3k pts off type flint with 3rd effect?

[toxic cobalt]

Probably but why is Candice there

[royal flicker]

For hail 🥲

[toxic cobalt]

Do you have BP Candice?

[royal flicker]

Is she 4 star? I can buy her if she's better

[toxic cobalt]

Marginally better as she also has special moves but no bother if you don't have her yet

[sacred scroll]

She's a 4☆ obtainable from BP voucher in case you were wondering

[manic mica]

I tried and did as best as I could to try fill out the type medals , this is my first champion stadium. Also what is the type medals for and could I have done something better?

[toxic cobalt]

You did great!

14/18 is super good

If you get 18/18 you unlock master mode, but you can't do that in one week

[manic mica]

So I have to wait for the next week?

[frosty pilot]

yes

you physically cannot get all of the medals in a week

15 unique units = 15 unique types at max

you get the 3 remaining ones next week

then you unlock master mode

[manic mica]

Ah alright

One thing I've noticed

I had way too many supports to spare

Which gave me so much room to use units that didn't do anything just to fill out the medsl

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah if you can get a good striker and a good support for it the third slot is free

[manic mica]

I had the most fun with the three supports team

Went in thinking it was unethical but it worked out somehow

[grand trout]

Unrelated but Bede's hat made me think he was a 4* and I'm like ???

[mellow linden]

Unfortunately you won’t be able to finish the type medal for Sinnoh CS until its next run, as next week we move to Hoenn and a different type medal. But yes, 2 weeks per region to complete it

[blazing perch]

Any suggestions?

[old orchid]

Cyrus is your best bet

Also make sure to remove sandstorm to make your life easier

[blazing perch]

Is this good for offtype?

[old orchid]

I see no reason for you to try offtype

When Cyrus is right there

But it's Lyra so offtype is still easy, just costs more time than using Cyrus

[blazing perch]

Don’t know what supports to use for cyrus

[mellow linden]

Even if you’re dead-set on off-typing you’d wanna replace either SS Lyra or SS Erika with a Support

[mellow linden]

Read his kit and see what buffs he needs

[blazing perch]

What about this

[mellow linden]

You’d probably want to use Cyrus’ Trainer Move once, but that can work

Wait

No, no way to change the weather

Sorry, forgot that part

[blazing perch]

Oh I need to get rid of sandstorm too

[mellow linden]

Yes

The opponent is bulkier and deals more damage while Sandstorm is active

[blazing perch]

Don’t have many pairs left that change weather

The other ones are sunny day setters

[mellow linden]

Anything other than Sandstorm is fine

You’re not using Hydro Pump here anyway

You may need to use Cyrus’ Trainer Move twice on that team to max his Ramming Speed (I assume your Cyrus has his Power Boost for Spatial Rend Ramming Speed), but that’s not a huge deal since Morgan has Potions

[blazing perch]

Do I really need to use he’s tm twice cause morgan gives 4 stat speed and spattack

[mellow linden]

Morgan doesn’t buff Speed, she buffs Attack & Sp. Atk.

So Cyrus would need to handle all his Speed buffs himself

[blazing perch]

Oh yeah mb

[lean vine]

what do they mean by pre and post sync on the MM preset doc

[trail smelt]

Pre sync means you beat them before the enemy syncs

Post is after

Basically the difference is how durable the enemies are and how hard they hit

Pick the one that suits your playstyle and team

[mellow linden]

• Pre-Sync: You have to KO before the opponent Syncs.
• Post-Sync: You don’t care whether or not the opponent Syncs (though you don’t want them to Sync more than once)
• Poison stall: Turning up the opponents defenses and using DoT to wear them down instead of direct damage

[lean vine]

is there anyone i could slot in for flint

im doing the on type pre sync preset with more hp if that helps

[old orchid]

You can use Kukui for defense debuff and flinch

[blazing perch]

I’m getting 1 shot from sync

[old orchid]

That's expected, because the team has no defensive backbone

Which round param and parameters are you using?

[blazing perch]

1,5 k post sync

[fading cradle]

fuck, next week doesn’t the stadium rotate to hoenn

[old orchid]

Try to pre sync instead. GridCyrus for sync nuke and it will be a cakewalk

[blazing perch]

I will try it

[lean vine]

will this do for poison stalling Bertha
im on the round where extra effects are more likely to happen

[old orchid]

That's not a poison stall team

But both of them are capable of offtyping her. Just be careful with Ground attacks

[lean vine]

pre sync or post

[old orchid]

You should try it out first

[lean vine]

sure

i tried both and neither went too well

i was hoping i could save nc red to offtype cynthia but maybe i should use him here

[blazing perch]

Oh wow didn’t know cyrus could do dmg with sync like that

[old orchid]

Cyrus should be enough to handle ontype

You can use NC Red here, just be mindful of bulky sides because they have triple special defense stat

[lean vine]

alright

[blazing perch]

Do I need to change hop?

2k preset

Pre sync

[old orchid]

You should, the team's gauge is not really good

The Ground core is capable of clearing 3k easily

[blazing perch]

Maybe Skyla?

[old orchid]

Good choice

[blazing perch]

I aim for 2k every stage to clear 10k I need the champion spirits to ex some pairs

I’m at 7-8k now I reset

Yeah you were right I cleared 2k pretty easy I can do 3k prob

[bitter veldt]

cynthia too op. i beat aaron 3k with two other useless (except them being ground is not useless to give extra% dmg) .

[lean vine]

who can i slot in alongside red, i tried melony dana and got crushed

[blazing perch]

Is there any way to clear Bertha 2k preset with anni lilie or should I use other pair for dmg

[old orchid]

You can use param set with little offensive buffa

And make a strong defensive backbone

But offtyping is totally fine

[old orchid]

You shouldn't try to use monotype team. NC Rosa works better than Dana for example

Do you have Irida or egg Glaceon?

[lean vine]

i dont unfortunately

[manic mica]

Any tips on how to beat Lucius, I’m struggling against him.

[blazing perch]

Do I have to offtype 2k flint?

[blazing perch]

Maybe poison stall

[blazing perch]

I just offtype him with nc cheren 2k preset don’t have any decent bug

[manic mica]

I’ll try it ty.

[manic mica]

Didn’t work, I don’t think I’ll be able to beat him until I get better bug pairs.

[blazing perch]

Have you tried janine Lucy morty?

[blazing perch]

I think poison stall him it’s ez u just need to get vigilance on ur pairs I couldn’t do it without vigilance

Or you can offtype him

[fading cradle]

you can always off type or poison stall

if this is hard mode, strong off type damage dealers will do the job

[blazing perch]

Yo melissa any team suggestion for flint ?

2k preset

[blazing perch]

This is rock roster

[manic mica]

It is hard mode

[blazing perch]

It should be easy then with just some off type strong dmg dealers

[blazing perch]

Do you mind sending ur pairs?

[fading cradle]

who is your damage dealer

[blazing perch]

I tried Selena but it’s weak

Maybe I should poison stall?

[fading cradle]

if it isn’t working out, then off type or poison stall. do you still have poison stallers on u?

oof yeah i checked the rock weak flint stage, doesn’t help that the sides have wise entry. do you have any other rock type damage dealers?

[blazing perch]

Nope

I haven’t used poison stall pairs yet

So I will try to poison stall morty Lucy Janine

[fading cradle]

as long as you don’t pick any parameters that raise the enemy’s attacks, you should be fine

[blazing perch]

I will test the 2k preset

[blazing perch]

I’m getting burned I guess I have to restart until I won’t

[royal flicker]

What is your preset on this one?

[brave halo]

OK before it gets called out about the select scouts being bad or whatever, I only did one for jirachi, so I can try it with raihan against glacia, but I'm a bit stumped on a good support, who looks better? Chase, lenora, or lodge dawn? Lenora and chase are at least 3/5 exr and lodge is pure 5 ex

[blazing perch]

Plus I don’t have weather setter except some sunny and rain ones that don’t have any other help except weather

Can’t find a team to nuke with cyrus I’m using pre sync preset 2k when I sync the cynthia stays alive with 10-15% then nukes and I die

[mellow linden]

Since your Cyrus is probably gonna end up needing to use his Trainer Move twice anyway for Ramming Speed you could bring a more defensive Support like Melony or Anabel

[blazing perch]

Ok i will try with both

[royal flicker]

My highest points so far, seems like it will take me 2 weeks to try MM of Hoenn 🥲

[fading cradle]

hoenn is gonna hurt sm

[wide adder]

Who to fight? Rest of teams are physical but didn’t wanna give Lucian special dmg

Doing arc cyn, Neo silver, and anni Lillie teams for the other three fights. Haven’t done cs in a while

Honestly surprised how well Lucian tanked genesect and guzma

[nocturne pawn]

tanking genesect is not surprising

[wide adder]

im used to bug units just vanishing to ncblue+hilbert

then again idk what params i was on i didnt bother to change them from my old ones

saw 3k and was like "thats prob fine if i used that a few months ago right" lol

[nocturne pawn]

he has wise entry x2

i did beat him with guzma

[wide adder]

ah

well guzma cleaned up at least after enemy sync

surprised by how strong guzmas expansion was

[nocturne pawn]

yeah i actually got a -6 team with him

ccalem archer and guzma

and it just needs hs1 on someone

[idle warren]

im really struggling with this stadium - i did just return to the game recently and this is my first time doing one, so im wondering if i need to just get more units or build my teams better

This is what im using against bertha (I dont really have teams for flint or lucian yet)

[swift swan]

instead of sycamore, get a defense buffer instead. bertha uses physical attacks

as long as you triple queue consistently, you should be fine in hard mode

[supple reef]

You may also want to consider diversifying your types used a bit more since it is hard mode and you’ve already used a steel type

[old orchid]

you can use double supports or bring a flincher to buy time for example

the MC Solgaleo is not really helping much

[idle warren]

ty for all the tips!

[idle warren]

another question, while im team building is it more important to lean towards units with higher base rarity (5 star vs 3 star) or units that may be easier to use for certain battles?

I beat flint (thanks again for the help, made things a lot easier) and now im on lucian, but i cant decide between burgh and bugsy as my main attacker

[sacred scroll]

The latter

That said Lucian has Wise Entry x2 this week so phys attackers are mandatory for an easier clear

So bugsy ig but if you have Guzma...

[sonic blaze]

I'd say the most important thing is the grid... so if u get one of the better f2p units with their 3/5 grid, they'll have alot more utility than a 5 star limited unit at 1/5.

for raw damage, if it's a limited pair usually the 5 star is better though so u can use those as main dps, and suplement em with 3/5 units so u don't run into gauge issues and have more utility and stuff..

[idle warren]

Thanks for the input! I guess ill use bugsy then since I got him 5/5

[wheat dragon]

okay so Lucian was conquered

I have no idea what im gonna do about aaron

my only ground types are Hapu, Bertha, Nita and Clay

wait

i have 3/5 gladion now

would he be able to help?

[old orchid]

I recommend offtyping instead

But do keep Bertha, she is a very good counter to Aaron even without 3/5

[worn tusk]

Best teams for this weeks stadium

And 15000 point measures

[toxic cobalt]

Depends on your box

[lean lion]

K Grimsley with AS Steven and new Lillie

[undone ether]

as steven exr?

[lean lion]

Yeah, 3/5 EXR

Wasn't a max roll either

[spice ridge]

What would be a good f2p team for 3k Bertha CSMM?

[lean lion]

Anni Lillie, Hop, MC Solgaleo or 3/5 K Grimsley

[spice ridge]

MC Solgaleo keeps dying to rhyperior’s sync move. I didn’t expect it to be so frail

[lean lion]

Are you getting 2 syncs before opponent syncs?

[manic kiln]

The Hop + Lillie/MC/Grimsley comp don’t even need 2 syncs to clear. Sync with MC to clear sides then dps to finish mid
Earthquake is actually the real threat here when they can 1hko both Solgaleo

[toxic cobalt]

I cleared this week with MC Solgaleo Hop and a viral sleeper. It's tight though, both on rng and on gauge

[idle warren]

Who works well with Cyrus & Palkia? (Lenora is just a placeholder bc idk who to use)

[main crow]

what's the coin candy for next month CS?

[toxic cobalt]

Roxanne is a good one. You should spend that stamina

[idle warren]

Yeah you’re right 😭

Ty!

[cloud mulch]

Please guys I can’t defeat lucian, does anyone knows a stall team to defeat him?

[toxic cobalt]

Lucy Janine Leaf

[cloud mulch]

I tried but I can’t do it, what should I use to boost the opponent? Hp?

Btw with leaf u mean ss leaf right?

[toxic cobalt]

no

[cloud mulch]

The normal one?

[toxic cobalt]

yes

[wheat dragon]

Funny i was just making a stall team myself

but I was stuck on Aaron because lack of ground units

[cloud mulch]

Thx I’ll try

[idle warren]

Ive gotten close with this team but still cant beat her. Unsure if its the sandstorm damage or what

[toxic cobalt]

Why SS Blue?

Use Winona, cancel out the sandstorm

[idle warren]

I wanted the dmg buff from ex

But yeah ill try that

[toxic cobalt]

EX is good but permanent field effect needs countering

[wheat dragon]

hmmm

been so long since i made a stall...im going to assume weezing has long been powercrept...

[toxic cobalt]

Weezing?

[wheat dragon]

James and weezing

[toxic cobalt]

As in the James one?

Man. That is a long time.

[wheat dragon]

ye its what i used way back when

i just came back after 2 years this week

im trying to adapt to the new game environment

[toxic cobalt]

Can't really creep a stall tbh, poisoning and debuffing are what they are

[wheat dragon]

got to redo like every sync build i have lmao

well thats good news. question is like i forgot what support i used

.....I think i used an eggmon/

surely theres better options now tho

[toxic cobalt]

I mean, it's really hard to beat Leaf

[frank remnant]

I was about to ask for advice on 3k stall parameters lol, ty

[idle warren]

would it work if i used ss blue instead of roxanne?

oop

[toxic cobalt]

I guess but that's giving up free buffs for no reason

[idle warren]

i see

ok ty

[wheat dragon]

does stall even need a support?

or is it all techs

[toxic cobalt]

You need a support to tank

[wheat dragon]

hmmm

Misty Psyduck?

[toxic cobalt]

She works yeah, just get lucky with mpr

[idle warren]

should i target cynthia or the other two trainers first?

[toxic cobalt]

always mid first

[idle warren]

yeah its looking pretty impossible...

is it a good move to unlock cyrus' ex potential with the stuff i got from the story

[toxic cobalt]

Dragon rend -> Study Buddies -> Rain Dance
Dragon Rend -> STudy Buddies -> Air slash etc.

[toxic cobalt]

what stuff did you get?

[idle warren]

those tickets

that were specific to cyrus

ik u can exchange them for general ones though

[idle warren]

custom power ups*

[toxic cobalt]

+legexchange

[frozen depot]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
  https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
  For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[toxic cobalt]

yes 20/20 him

[idle warren]

kk

ty

[toxic cobalt]

never exchange

[idle warren]

good to know lol

[toxic cobalt]

Make alll those pairs 20/20 lol sorry I assumed Cyrus was already buffed

[idle warren]

ive been stingy with the power ups cuz im not sure how hard they are to get

ill upgrade winona and roxanne too then

[toxic cobalt]

You can be stingy wiht :igole

But the custom ones, just put them into the unit

[idle warren]

ohhhh okay

[toxic cobalt]

The and are common

[idle warren]

what about the 3 star one

alr

[toxic cobalt]

but good instinct on the

[idle warren]

glad i saved then

thx again!

[toxic cobalt]

lol but the 10x -> 1x is one of the worst deals of all time

I'd like to have 10x less stuff please

[idle warren]

im surprised its an option

[toxic cobalt]

It's a relic of when it used to be a recurring event, so those doing the event the second time could get some use out of them

[idle warren]

ah

I beat it!! Thanks again!

[wheat dragon]

yknow prof oak would have been a nice stall wall if i had his entire kit opened up

[warped linden]

Hey guys, I’m trying to get 18/18 on the Challenge and starting with getting Lucian out of the way first cause Bug is probably my weakest link… here’s everyone I’ve got who has a Bug attack, is there anyone all that good here or should I just use a stronger other type and use a tech/support for my Bug medal

[toxic cobalt]

Your best bet is bugsy but like, just stall him

[mellow linden]

It’s just Hard Mode, so could do Gladion

Or even run dual damage-dealer Bugsy or Lusamine + Gladion to get Normal and Bug medals

[warped linden]

I ended up making it work, thanks guys. I’m still fairly new and haven’t run 18/18 before, so while I’ve got a few good pairs, I’m trying to carefully plan out and not burn them all up yknow

I ended up running Skyla/Swanna, Bugsy/Bedrill, and then SS Lyra and got my flying, bug, and grass medals

[wheat dragon]

hmmm

toxic stalling aaron has proven a bit tricky

even with a venom drench on the team he eventually powers on through

[toxic cobalt]

Get better potion mpr

time the gradual healing on janine well

gradual healing doesn't refresh when you do it again unless it has expired

[wheat dragon]

oh i just click mega healing at the start of battle

team currently is nidorinoak, leaf, and MC Nidoqueen

[toxic cobalt]

I haven't memorised nidorinoak yet but lucy is better

gets trap as well

who has mega healing?

[wheat dragon]

Leaf

[toxic cobalt]

As in SS Leaf?

[wheat dragon]

uhhh

yes?

[toxic cobalt]

who is the tank

[wheat dragon]

oak is the support

i only have at 2/5 for now but it was enough to unlock a potent toxin

[toxic cobalt]

But then what is SS Leaf for

Okay I vaguely see this team

[wheat dragon]

Badly Poisoned access, potent toxin, mega healing

[toxic cobalt]

Don't use SS Leaf's heal until Oak's gradual heal runs out

grid hit poitsoned opp hp recovery 9

[wheat dragon]

honestly some physicl defense would be nice on this team

unfortunately oak raise sp.d

[toxic cobalt]

really good for special attacking stalling

I do recommend just switching to Lucy Janine Leaf

then you have two stall teams

[wheat dragon]

janine...ariados?

[toxic cobalt]

can use oak for a spatk opponent

Yes, imagine MC Nidoqueen but better

[wheat dragon]

really now

[toxic cobalt]

MC Nidoqueen with gradual healing and evasion

[wheat dragon]

oh....she has venoshock :c

Venom drench the main draw for me

lowers attack, sp.a, and speed on any poisoned or badly poisoned opponent, and is a spread move

[cinder summit]

Janine & Ariados

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_POISON:967452396382994485> Cross Poison

Gauge: 2 | Power: 38 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Critical hits land more easily. Has a chance (10%) of leaving the target poisoned.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Dire Hit +

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 2 stat ranks.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_POISON:967452396382994485> Venom Drench

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Attack, Sp. Atk, and Speed by 1 stat rank when the target is poisoned or badly poisoned. Fails when the target is not poisoned or badly poisoned.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Move Like the Wind!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Speed and evasiveness by 2 stat ranks.

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_POISON:967452396382994485> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Ninja Spirit Cross Poison

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
This attack's power increases when the target is poisoned or badly poisoned.

[wheat dragon]

what the

oh slaps self

i clicked the wrong list

okay okay yeah i can work witht hat

[toxic cobalt]

Lucy Janine Leaf, cannot go wrong

[wheat dragon]

I dont recall lucy or janine having grids when i played

wonder when they got dded

[toxic cobalt]

Everyone has grids now except Jessie and James

[wheat dragon]

l

[toxic cobalt]

Lucy has guaranteed poison and wrap damage on grid, Janine has gradual healing

Leaf wants her potions and one flinch

[wheat dragon]

that team has 0 support however

so who gets to play facetank

[toxic cobalt]

Leaf

[wheat dragon]

its cool to see everyone hve grids now

i just found out last night Kris went from being a meme attacker to having a blessed expanded grid

will try her out on water damge challenge later

[toxic cobalt]

Mhmm Kris went from zero to soloing LG

[wheat dragon]

closer but not enough

[spiral turtle]

ive got a good team for bertha...

I DIDNT MEAN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN I WAS JUST TOYING AROUND

[mellow linden]

Real quick, which Leaf are you running?

[wheat dragon]

Ss leaf

Trying to poison stall aaron

Which is a little difficult on behalf of his kit

[mellow linden]

I think Aurochs meant regular Leaf given they mentioned flinching

And SS Leaf can’t do that

Another thing you can do to boost success chances is putting Vigilance on everyone (be it via Lucky Skill or Sync Grid)

If possible

[wheat dragon]

Already did

Maybe 3k is too much for stall idk

[mellow linden]

Can try with regular Leaf to see how it goes

[wheat dragon]

oops

i cant do that actually

[spiral turtle]

holy fuck im doing it???

[wheat dragon]

i used leaf vs Lucian

[mellow linden]

Ah

You could try using SS Leaf as the main poisoner and running a Defense buffing Support instead of Lucy, then

Or replace SS Leaf with the Support and keep Lucy

[spiral turtle]

hey guys i did it

[cloud mulch]

How the f did u defeated Cynthia

[fading cradle]

dragon units

[mellow linden]

You need to change the weather to something other than Sandstorm or the opponents will hit much harder and take much less damage from special moves

[fading cradle]

that too

[cloud mulch]

Finally

[scarlet dagger]

do i need to clear everyone to get mm rewards

[supple reef]

Master Mode unlocks once you complete the type medal, which is only updated every time the champion fight is cleared

[scarlet dagger]

oop
im asking about when you are doing mm

[supple reef]

oh no you get the rewards as you clear them

[rapid osprey]

can someone confirm im not insane and all four stages are effectively equal spdef? obvi 2 of them bring spdef buffs but

as best i can tell they all have the same base value (78)

[toxic cobalt]

All the values are on pomatools

[mellow linden]

Bug weak Lucian, Rock weak Flint, and the sides for Steel weak Bertha have Wise Entry x2 (x3 for Bertha sides), which doubles (triples for x3) the base Sp. Def. (and this cannot be ignored by critical hits or Piercing Blows).

So if you’re wondering why your special damage-dealers do less damage there then that’s why

[narrow portal]

Who can be ran with golisopod against bug weak? I don’t have heracross or twins

[mellow linden]

What Move Level is your Guzma?

[narrow portal]

5/5

[mellow linden]

Ok, just wanted to be sure

You can do a dual damage-dealer setup with Guzma being gridded for Sync nuke and then either Noland or Lusamine being gridded for regular move damage, then just run an appropriate Support

If it’s just Hard Mode you may not even need a 2nd damage-dealer and could possibly just do Guzma + Support + filler for type medal

[narrow portal]

Gotcha thanks

[toxic cobalt]

Who is twins?

[mellow linden]

SC Subway Bros, probably

[wheat dragon]

i used Viola and masquerian for constant sp. drop nd leaf as my tank to boost up guzma

[rapid osprey]

ah, ok. i have no steel special attackers so i was thinking of saving bertha for later in the sequence, but she is i think slightly better for enemy sp. atk boost as the parameter bc both lucian and aaron have a sp. atk on their core as opposed to just on the side, but the stat being 78 across the board was throwing me off Very hard. much appreciated!!

[mellow linden]

So continuing here, what team(s) did you end up trying?

[mellow linden]

Did you try either of these suggestions since you had already used regular Leaf?

[wheat dragon]

Tried using my 6* Skyla

the issue is a mixture of little annoyances in drapions kit

he ends up with gradual healing post sync, and evasion is useless againts Faint Attack

[mellow linden]

You shouldn't be relying on evasion and Gradual Healing shouldn't be that impactful if you're using Lucy or SS Leaf as the Poison inflictor since Bad Poison ramps up

What parameters are you running?

[wheat dragon]

evasion was when i using ariados

for venom drench

oh wait, hold on a second

....im gonna try skyla again, apparently i left 3x support damage on when i had the 3 tech team

[mellow linden]

That would definitely do it

A little philosophy for CSMM troubleshooting I've picked up is to always check parameters

Because even if you don't think it's parameters, parameters probably have something to do with it

[wheat dragon]

Gaaaaah

Soooo clooooooose

[old orchid]

Aaron has dmg increase if there is no weather

so it's harder to stall him

do you have Bertha? 1/5 is fine but you have to save sandstorm for later

or you should bring a venom drench user to lower their offensive stats, using both BP Erika + Lucy is a waste cuz Erika doesn't help much

[mellow linden]

Oh wait, why are you using BP Erika and Lucy?

You should absolutely be using Venom Drench or another offensive debuffer

[wheat dragon]

wait, weather?

is THAT what the clear power is?

[wheat dragon]

i had venom drench on earlier comps, switched to try and squeeze more damage out

that stupid gradual healing tends to outdo the poison damage for a while

[mellow linden]

The tiny bit of extra damage from an extra Pokey Trap passive wouldn't outdo the survivability offensive debuffs bring

[lean lion]

Bring Janine for debuffs if she's available

[wheat dragon]

i got bertha to 3/5 earlier today, yes

[old orchid]

that's nice, because she has access to full nuke at that level

so you have 2 routes: either continue toxic stalling, or make Bertha the nuker

[wheat dragon]

before i tried stalling i tried nita hapu bertha, but because hapu isnt 6star i couldnt knock out enough

oh bertha isnt a 6* either

so the tech boost isnt there

[old orchid]

Bertha doesn't need EX

Hapu is bad, don't use her

[mellow linden]

Do you happen to have Courtney, perchance?

[wheat dragon]

tell the devs to make more free ground units then 😭

no

bertha clay hapu and a 1/5 nita

those are all my grounds

unless we count eggmons which i havent even dared consider for dps

[lean lion]

Janine is available yeah?

[hard notch]

Fr? Damn

[lean lion]

Skyla Janine Lucy should be able to poison stall

[wheat dragon]

have you seen the pool for ground type trainers? its abysmal

2 years hiatus and ground is still one of the rarest jewels in this game

[wheat dragon]

would SS Leaf replace lucy or is lucy better

[old orchid]

most great Ground types are locked behind gacha

their status is much better than they were 2 years back then

[old orchid]

Lucy has both trap + poison

which is automatically better

[wheat dragon]

oh i know they introduced more grounds

problem is they arent in the free pool

so i have no chnce to get them in a timely matter

[wheat dragon]

okay will try this, sounds like it should work

fun fact my old stall team used MC Nidoqueen lol

and even further back i remember using wheezing

[old orchid]

you can wait for more Bertha dupes and Courtney

they are serviceable at least

[mellow linden]

SS Leaf would trade more DoT in a Poison stall team for extra survivability

Sometimes that’s helpful, sometimes it isn’t

[wheat dragon]

When is Aarune being put in the game

save me flygon man

[mellow linden]

We don’t know

[hard notch]

Flygon man would be raihan

[rapid osprey]

aarune with his flygon vs aaron going 'that should have been a bug'

[lean lion]

Since you have 3/5 Bertha, all you need is one copy of Courtney and you'll be set for most ground weak stages

[rapid osprey]

alternateively, clearly theyre saving him for a collab with a sygna suit aaron getting the bug/dragon flygon we have always deserved that z-a is going to introduce (this is a joke. this is not a leak or a spoiler i am joking i am making this up)

[wheat dragon]

Tripped at the finish line

[old orchid]

curiously, what params are you running?

and is Skyla gridded with full heal stuff?

[toxic cobalt]

That stall is very reliant on good potion rng

Rare for Janine to die before Lucy

Grid Skyla with one flinch and you can usually get the sides to fall a bit sooner

[wheat dragon]

@old orchid

[old orchid]

Fanfare 2 is not neededon Skyla

[wheat dragon]

Ah that does make sense, with this build fanfare does nothinf basically

[old orchid]

oh nvm

params seem fine

[wheat dragon]

Ita easy to forget you can have several different sync builds at once ehehe

the sides kind of need to be taken out

because their Enrage moves do SE damage to both ariados and Skyla

found that out the hardway

[toxic cobalt]

I have not used a fanfare grid for literal years lol

Not since the good old days of 7.5k

[wheat dragon]

thats literally where im coming from lmao

uhhh so whats skyla running these days

[toxic cobalt]

Potionbot

[tawdry wharf]

Could round 4 Lucian be doable with a 3/5 Guzma

[old orchid]

R4 doesn't benefit you nor Lucian so with a good team and strat it should be fine

[foggy talon]

need some help for hard mode champion stadium on Lycian, he is the only left before Cynthia but i am new and not sure what other team I can make to take him on after several tries and I don’t have much bug type sync pair to tackle this

[toxic cobalt]

Honestly just poison him to death Lucian is so annoying

Do you not have Bugsy or Noland btw?

[foggy talon]

are they 3 star?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes

You should

+legexchange

[frozen depot]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
  https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
  For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[foggy talon]

no noland lol

bugsy i have

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm but no more Hop and no Hilbert

Sad just run SS Leaf Janine and Leaf

[foggy talon]

i am not sure if i have leaf, i know i have SS leaf

[foggy talon]

oh that is leaf

[uneven moat]

who can i use to beat flint and lucian

[old orchid]

+legexchange do this to get legendaries' free materials first

[frozen depot]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
  https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
  For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[toxic cobalt]

After you legexchange you can probably just offtype with Cyrus and Ghetsis

Oh maybe not Cyrus

Cos Cynthia

[old orchid]

Lucian has Wise Entry x2, so better use physical dmg dealers

[toxic cobalt]

Ah i knew i hated him for a reason

[uneven moat]

whats the team comp I should use with ghetsis

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore and MC Torchic or something should be fine

[uneven moat]

okay and should I use that for lucian or flint

[toxic cobalt]

Flint

Lucian you might have to run Slowgaleo and Hop or something

[foggy talon]

lol still cant beat lucian after several tries

[uneven moat]

i tried this team comp but I died too fast

how should I set it up

[old orchid]

you need to grid Sycamore and Ghetsis

and replace Torchic with a sunny weather changer, like Winona

[uneven moat]

my supports die too fast how can I prevent that

[gleaming jolt]

Hard mode shouldn't be that tough!
Try giving the supports vigilance lucky skill!

[uneven moat]

what cookie should that be under

[gleaming jolt]

Creamy Lucky Cookie

[uneven moat]

okay thank you

[foggy talon]

Still failing on this with hard mode, last one left before Cynthia, when the opponent uses sync move, most of them are heavy dmg and the poison kicks in too slow?

[uneven moat]

im still dying too fast I think I might be bad at this game

[gleaming jolt]

Did you grided them?

[uneven moat]

I did

[gleaming jolt]

You did this right?

[toxic cobalt]

Are you venom drenching

[gleaming jolt]

Also I hope you are using noble roar from Ghetsis to minimise the damage from sync!

[uneven moat]

yeah I did this too

[uneven moat]

ill try this

[foggy talon]

Using cross poison and hope it proves?

proc

damn auto correct

[uneven moat]

yeah im just bad at the game

[toxic cobalt]

Cross poison is useless

[foggy talon]

Any other way of getting it to be poison?

[toxic cobalt]

SS Leaf razor leaf

[uneven moat]

arcanine is frozen and its still hitting me

bruh

[foggy talon]

The dmg looks very low like 200-300ish

[toxic cobalt]

Is for poisin not damage

[foggy talon]

oh? Razor leaf can poison?

Anything wrong for only looking here for skill description?

Oh

[gleaming jolt]

Try this!

[gleaming jolt]

Winona flinch can come in handy!

I forgot to swap vigilance on Ghetsis, it should be CS2

[foggy talon]

Leaf can’t tank so well lol

guess I have to wait

[toxic cobalt]

I will not take this Leaf slander. Look, she doesn’t even need a single potion! Not one!

[foggy talon]

Any relation of ur leaf is 5/5 and mine is not?

[toxic cobalt]

It'll help with the gauge but that doesn't mean too much

You still have four potions either way!

[foggy talon]

My leaf is 2/5 but I have not invest in grid yet

[toxic cobalt]

ALl you'd really want for this is potion refresh

at 2/5

[foggy talon]

I will try abit more see, sync move should be using on eevee only?

[toxic cobalt]

SS Leaf first, then Leaf

[foggy talon]

Ok let me try

[foggy talon]

ss leaf mega healing, should use from the start or when? is it going to persist until end match? this time i have my Janice dead lol, i think i will up her more, looks doable just abit dragging

[swift swan]

Don't use it from her start, try using it after she's mega evolved and when you think the whole team starts to require the gradual healing

[toxic cobalt]

See the video I posted which uses the mega healing

[foggy talon]

Lol I tried so many times but eevee still die before any of my opponent is

[uneven moat]

I FINALLLY DID IT GUYS THANK YOU SM

oops wrong photo

oh yeah

[toxic cobalt]

If it worked it worked

[uneven moat]

now I need to beat lucian

[kindred heron]

After many tries I was able to beat Bertha 3000 points using this team

Poppy team was bad rose is better

It took only couple tries to get good rng

[uneven moat]

who do I use for the third guy

[kindred heron]

I used Barry heracross

[mellow linden]

Have you already gotten Steel on your type medal?

Because if so you’d probably wanna pick a different damage-dealer to build around to avoid too much overlap

[uneven moat]

who is a good alternative

i just wanna beat it tbh

[toxic cobalt]

Skyla

[mighty wolf]

Which elite 4 member should be first with the round one effect?

[sacred scroll]

Well it depends heavily on your team

Utilize it on the E4 member you plan to debuff

Neither of them debuff to an extent running that would be a detriment to your team, at least, for non poison stall tactics

[uneven moat]

who should I use to beat cynthia

[mellow linden]

Make sure you’re replacing Sandstorm with a different weather and then as long as you’re putting a solid team together you should be golden

[uneven moat]

whats a good character to replace sandstorm

[mellow linden]

Any weather setter who sets something other than Sandstorm will work. If they provide more benefits as well then great, but it’s not required as long as your damage-dealer’s needs are met

[uneven moat]

bruh why was cynthia so easy…

this is fraudulent behaviour

thanks to everyone that helped me

[foggy talon]

been looking at the video, not sure why after 2nd sync move from eevee, i will get hit with a big dmg and have no time to iron tail and need to potion and eventually died, from the video i dont see you have this situation, i keep on replay and still getting the same scenario

[toxic cobalt]

Do you also use the potions from SS Leaf?

[foggy talon]

yea during that phase i will use for some reason it spiking up, i dont have discord nitro cant upload my video

[foggy talon]

Nvm I don’t know what happened but I managed to win this time

One question for this, what should I choose for Cynthia?

[mellow linden]

Whichever one best fits the team you’re using

None of those round parameters are super impactful for the fight

[wheat dragon]

I found it...i found the one path that led to victory....

Oh my god that took a lot of rng

I needed salazzle to miss, i needed discombombulate to proc dor vital crunch misses, potion mgr....

But I did it

....3 more to go

.......

Game....you better not be messing around....

[foggy talon]

Cynthia is a lot easier than Lucian

[fading cradle]

sinnoh elite four is pretty notorious in this game for being harder than the champion

cynthia is nothing in cs compared to the main series games ☠️

[old orchid]

Most regions have easy champion fights tbh

[wheat dragon]

I think i should be good from here on

I cant imagine bertha giving me trouble with anni lillie (2) and steven (1)

And as for flint hilda should get the job done

[manic mica]

How do you beat flint

Ts hard asf

[gleaming jolt]

Replace sun with rain or another weather

Who is the damage dealer?

[manic mica]

How do i fix team

[gleaming jolt]

Are you doing master mode or hard mode?

[manic mica]

Hard mode

[toxic cobalt]

Spend that stamina and replace Lana with someone of more direct help to Olivia.

[manic mica]

Such as

[mellow linden]

Someone who buffs both Attack and critical rate would help so Olivia doesn’t have to use her Trainer Move more than once

[errant needle]

The link seems broken for the parameters suggestion

[mellow linden]

Works fine for me, how does it seem to be broken on your end?

[errant needle]

Yeah let me see if I can copy paste it

[worn tusk]

What round is best for each trainer

Is 15,000 necessary or is 12,500 alright

[errant needle]

Same error in app or copied and pasted

[mellow linden]

I think you're clicking the wrong link, the parameter recommendations aren't embedded images

[errant needle]

Ao