Champion Stadium

[opal aurora]

havent grid Sydney, should I grid him ?

[swift swan]

What other dark damage dealers do you have?

[opal aurora]

I think Im gonna replace Latios with Zamaxenta

I only have this currently

[swift swan]

Ah

Do you have Nessa by any chance

[opal aurora]

Ahh yea

Just remember she can deal Dark Damage

Nessa is 3/5

[swift swan]

Hop/ss cyrus/nessa should work, just be mindful of gauge

[opal aurora]

Noted

Should I grid Nessa ?

[swift swan]

You can turn off no status condition so cyrus can abuse his AOE sleep

[swift swan]

Hmm

Let me see

[opal aurora]

And CS2 right ?

for lucky skill

[swift swan]

Yes

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/24900/83400?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFIyUnKCkqKywt i'd just go for a minimal grid like this for now

In case you're still low on orbs

[opal aurora]

Actually I run out of CS2 cookie

[swift swan]

That's fine too

[opal aurora]

aleight man

[old orchid]

[opal aurora]

I won bro, thanks !

now final elite four

this are units that can lower Sp Atk

Wrecked

should I keep using Palkia or replace him with other Water Attacker ?

[swift swan]

Palkia is your best bet

[swift swan]

Cyrus has his hydro pump grid, right? This seems like very little damage

[mellow linden]

What parameters and Cyrus grid are you running?

[opal aurora]

Yes I grid Hydro Pump

[old orchid]

How about replacing Brendan with a defense buffer

Olivia mainly uses physical attacks

[opal aurora]

Im doing On Type Post Grid and change :
No Status Condition to Interference Immunity
Tech Sync Pair 3x to Max Sync Countdown

[old orchid]

The first change actually makes the battle harder to clear

Winona's flinch is pretty good, while you don't need any status condition

Max sync cd is not really good too

[opal aurora]

Noted

[frozen hearth]

acerola was suprisingly easy but ill take it. What does kahili have in store now I wonder

[mellow linden]

Yeah, you should basically always avoid the -X Sync Countdown parameters

[opal aurora]

is this good enough ?

changed the parameter

should I grid Winona ?

[mellow linden]

At most consider picking up her Air Slash Aggravation tile, but it’s not 100% necessary

[frozen hearth]

roxanne is going to die pretty fast. Id say get her stats up a bit

otherwise its very similar to my lineup

[mellow linden]

Depending on what moves the opponent uses (and when they use them) it might not be an issue

[frozen hearth]

its pretty much game over if they use an attack all move early on lmao

sweet rng

[mellow linden]

Not necessarily, they may use weaker moves or get flinched by Winona

[opal aurora]

my option are either Roxanne, Steelix or Nidorino I guess

[mellow linden]

Give Roxanne a shot for now, you can always adjust the team if things don’t work out

[opal aurora]

noted

[frozen hearth]

its going to go down to the wire most probably, so will take a few tries but this lineup is okay

[opal aurora]

Regarding Sync Move, because Cyrus's Dragon Type, Should I still use his Sync Move ?

[frozen hearth]

hes the main damage dealer so i did use his sync

[mellow linden]

Should be fine, yeah. If you have Standard Damage Reduction on it won’t really matter and if you don’t then Cyrus’ Sync will do the most damage anyway

[opal aurora]

As far as I can get

[mellow linden]

When are Roxanne and Winona going down?

[opal aurora]

Roxanne before Sync

Winona during Sync cause of Tech 3x dmg

[mellow linden]

Tech x3 damage doesn’t affect Sync

Are you getting flinches with Winona at all?

Trying to see what (if anything) can be adjusted in gameplay

[opal aurora]

getting flinch but the enemy use TM

but sometimes i missed flinch because wrong target are using move

[mellow linden]

So the enemy acts in a fixed order for their first Sync cycle:

Center -> Right Side -> Center -> Left Side -> Center -> Center -> Sync

This only gets changed if you prevent an opponent from using a pokemon move and there is no Trainer Move to use in its place

[mellow linden]

If that situation does occur it will usually go to the center if it was a side that got flinched or the next side to act if it was the center that got flinched

[opal aurora]

noted

should i kill the side first or the center

[mellow linden]

The center

If need be you can flinch the sides to stall their AoE moves, but for an offense-oriented clear you wanna KO the center ASAP so they use their Sync as few times as possible (if using pre-Sync parameters then no Syncs at all from the opponent)

If you’re still having trouble after a few more attempts you could consider shifting to an off-type or Poison stall clear

[opal aurora]

Is there any good unit for Poison Stall

?

[mellow linden]

Poison stall teams generally consist of:

• A Poison inflictor (ideally Bad Poison, the kind from Toxic and Poison Fang)
• A debuffer (debuffs Attack, Sp. Atk, or both depending on what moves the opponent uses)
• A tank (a Support who can buff defenses and provide healing via Potions and/or passives)

[mellow linden]

Lucy is good for the Poison inflictor. Unfortunately you already used Janine and so would have to run a different debuffer (this is why I didn’t like Janine on your Rock team, btw)

[opal aurora]

I see

this is what I can come up with

but I doubt I can win

this is the striker I have for off type recommendation

[mellow linden]

Off the top of my head Ghetsis is likely to be your best bet for debuffer since he debuffs both offenses (if you can, you’ll wanna grid his Double Drop tile).

Roxanne is not a good tank pick for Poison stall since she has little to no healing to speak of

[mellow linden]

Just seeing your Strike pairs isn’t enough info for off-typing, Tech, Sprint, and Field pairs can all potentially act as damage-dealers

[opal aurora]

alright wait

this is what i have rn

[mellow linden]

If you want to off-type you may want to do SS Lyra + Selene or Brendan, since a 3/5 SS Erika should be plenty strong enough for the Champion fight

[opal aurora]

Ive used Selene

so

[mellow linden]

I mean Selene + Decidueye

[opal aurora]

Lyra, Brendan and..

ohh I see

alright

[mellow linden]

For the Support make sure they can fill whatever offensive buffs the team needs. You want both SS Lyra and your chosen 2nd damage-dealer to be at +4 to +6 in whatever offensive stat(s) they use (Attack for physical, Sp. Atk. for special) and +3 crit, and you want your 2 damage-dealers to spend no more than 2 turns on setup

[opal aurora]

Torchic good ?

[mellow linden]

Can give them a shot and see how it goes

Also, remember to level 120 whoever you’re using

[opal aurora]

noted

should I grid Devidueye ?

[mellow linden]

Only 1/5, so no need

They’re mainly there to further abuse Grassy Terrain with SS Lyra

[opal aurora]

noted

I start to feel dumb

[mellow linden]

Looks like you left 1 or more Damage Reduction 8 parameters on that you shouldn’t have

Avoid Physical Damage Reduction 8 (the 100 point one) and Standard Damage Reduction 8 at minimum, if you’re planning to Sync with Lyra then avoid Special Damage Reduction 8 (the 100 point one) as well

[opal aurora]

trying to get to 10k

with this battle

[mellow linden]

Might wanna drop Max HP ^8 in exchange for some other options if you’re set on off-typing

[opal aurora]

what should i change for HP max

or should I lower my aim

for final score

[mellow linden]

Could try Sync Buff ^ (because ideally the opponent won’t Sync), Max HP ^2, No Stat Reduction (I’m aware SS Lyra can debuff, but those debuffs are slow and probably won’t be vital at all), No Status Conditions, and Attack & Sp. Atk. ^5 (SS Lyra can flinch super well and stall a ton of attacks)

But tbh if you’re coming from 5k total then there’s zero shame in working your way up to 1.5k per stage (7.5k total) 1st (that was the original maximum for Champion Stadium, they just gradually upped the max over time)

So if you’re having a lot of trouble with 2.5k don’t feel pressured to keep doing it

[opal aurora]

noted

I think I'm not smart enough to use Lyra

same result

[mellow linden]

Could try Poison stall if you wanna take a few more shots at 2.5k

[mellow linden]

She definitely would take some practice to get the hang of her flinching, can always work on that later on if you want

[opal aurora]

noted cobalt

thanks for keeping up with helping me

[mellow linden]

It’s what this channel is for, no worries

[opal aurora]

would this work ?

i have gridded koga a little previously so i think he has better chance in poisoning

ehh my bad

actually havent gridded him

[mellow linden]

If no grid difference then Lucy would be a little better due to having Poison Fang and Wrap for more DoT

[opal aurora]

noted

let me try

[mellow linden]

Sycamore (gridded for Recuperation and Horn Leech Master Healer) or Leaf (due to being able to get Potion MP Refresh in grid) would be a better Support option than SS Brendan, though

SS Brendan is too offense-oriented and doesn’t have any Potion MP Refresh at 1/5

[frozen hearth]

kahili was so sweaty. I just realized how important 1 bar moves are in this game. Saved me at the end.

[opal aurora]

havent unlock his full grid yet

anything i should change ?

[mellow linden]

Ignore the Impervious tile and grab the Sync Move = healing tile on the bottom center there

That’s what I meant by Recuperation because until this most recent update that’s what it was called.

Thanks DeNA for making it harder to explain Sycamore grids

[opal aurora]

noted hahaha

i just remember

my koga havent gridded

but he has troublemaker

[mellow linden]

Troublemaker doesn’t affect Poison Fang

It only affects status moves

[opal aurora]

Ahh i see

noted

wish me luck

seviper died

after sync

i dont know why but the poison damage are minimal

[mellow linden]

It’ll start low, the idea with Bad Poison is that it ramps up over time

As long as Lucy Poisoned & Trapped all opponents (or at least the center for Trapped) it’s not the end of the world if she goes down

[opal aurora]

I feel Xerneas Leech are useless

1 damage and 1 heal

progress so far before Xerneas dead

[mellow linden]

Hmm

Could try Leaf with Potion MP Refresh, but if that ends up not working out you may just wanna lower the points this time around

[opal aurora]

noted

should i 3/5 Lucy ?

[mellow linden]

The most that would do is allow for gridding Hostile Environment for guaranteed Poison Fang poison, probably not outright needed

[opal aurora]

noted

good enough ?

[mellow linden]

As long as you have the Potion MP Refresh (which you do) the rest doesn’t matter

[opal aurora]

noted

[mellow linden]

Yeah, might be a bit too RNG with 2/5 Leaf, I was afraid of that

At this point it may be better to just lower the points instead of continuing to slam against a wall like this

[opal aurora]

noted

tried 3/5 Lucy

increase wrap damage

and hostile enviro

let me try once more

[opal aurora]

i won ! thanks Cobalt

ibgive vigilance on Seviper and Kyurem

and it works wonder

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[opal aurora]

i keep losing

[frosty pilot]

send params

[opal aurora]

just now i remove physical reduct 8 and change it to power up 10%

but havent tried it yet

[mellow linden]

Physical Damage Reduction 8 was at least 90% of the problem

[opal aurora]

alright let me try

hope this solve the provlem

[mellow linden]

If you’re still having trouble then consider adjusting the Support. Hop’s a great choice if he’s still available

[opal aurora]

better brendan or sycamore

just EX him 😁

my 3rd EX ( after Deoxys and Rossa )

[frosty pilot]

do you have anything better than fighting gears

(they won't do anything for your grass units)

[mellow linden]

It’s not the most ideal team setup, but you could do SS Brendan as the Support by sacrificing some of SS Lyra’s Grassy Glide damage (because she’ll be spending more turns on buffs) and making sure to use SS Erika’s Trainer Move on her 2nd turn (Sunny Day as her 1st turn, make sure it’s the last action of your team’s 1st 3 moves)

Or if you can’t fit Sunny Day on the 1st turn you could do X Speed -> Sunny Day -> Trainer Move for SS Erika

Essentially in that sort of team SS Lyra would become more of a supportive teammate than a secondary damage-dealer

[mellow linden]

Type Gear still gives half the stats to off-type pairs

[opal aurora]

i dont really focused on gear yet

first sync is Brendan first right ?

should i choose use sync move as much as possible ?

if i use brendan

[mellow linden]

Experiment with SS Brendan 1st Sync vs. SS Erika 1st Sync

The Sync Buff enhancement round parameter’s a good one for sure

[old orchid]

imo with SS Lyra around, you don't need a good support

Just bring her a gauge support at least

Brendan doesn't help generating gauge, especially when he doesn't get hit

[mellow linden]

I made the SS Brendan suggestion for if Sycamore ended up not working out

[old orchid]

My concern is the lack of gauge in long term

[mellow linden]

That’s fair

[opal aurora]

noted

used SS Brendan

[opal aurora]

this strategy works wonder

thank you so much 😭

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[thick fable]

@spice ridge

[fading cradle]

is tomorrow the sinnoh cs? i have probably some of the most wack teams ever prepared just for the medal 🤡

[gleaming jolt]

Yep yep!

[old orchid]

these teams look good

[gleaming jolt]

My teams would be more wackier believe me!

[frozen hearth]

guess theres no more hope left for kukui. Used erika against the elite 4

[swift swan]

We can always give Solar Beam Silver a shot

Just get his copies first

[frozen hearth]

tried it. Maybe not getting the sequence correct or maybe im just broke with the sync grids

[swift swan]

what team are you running?

[frozen hearth]

barely 26 mins to go 😭

[nocturne sapphire]

I think you need a sun setter for this team

Do you have SS Erika?

[frozen hearth]

used her against one of the elite four.

[gleaming jolt]

Their available roster

[nocturne sapphire]

I can only see is using Blaine

Well I think you don't need sun due to Silver's sync

[old orchid]

you want to bring a support to buff Silver's crit

[frozen hearth]

tried a few runs again. I think im just missing one support and obviously some sync grid upgrades. Broke af

[swift swan]

it's either melony or piers for crit support i suppose

melony can also sleep

[nocturne sapphire]

Watch he gets a like a Galar pair that is not one of them and it's 5/5

[gleaming jolt]

I will try with these!

[swift swan]

updated

[old orchid]

half sync 🚶‍♂️

[keen jasper]

Boy, so much stuff happened to me that I barely finished rally and I only did 3k on the last Alola CS week

[fading cradle]

using aaron to beat aaron, ngl that battle took a lot of time uhhhh

and do not say anything about my levels, they are perfectly fine!

[sweet ivy]

ok why is aaron suddenly difficult for me

[keen jasper]

[old orchid]

you need to inflict a status change on him (gradual heal param disables the DR passive) and bring a WTZ setter

[sweet ivy]

ohh okay

my past runs had gradual healing

since my 15k’s just go full hp i turned that off kek

[trail smelt]

Whoops forgot to make my team this week lol

[graceful oriole]

sinnoh cs time

[fading cradle]

already got my teams prepared for next week, they look mad stupid bc i got 6 types left to fill on my medal 🤡

[nocturne sapphire]

Ima check my battle rally real quick

Hmmmmm

Ye my Volkner and Iono is useful for this

Hehehe Sinnoh upgrade in the shop

[trail smelt]

Half synced Cynthia because I can lol

Kind of disappointed with Selene Alt though. Reasonably certain it’s due to how I use her and the subpar team lol

[nocturne sapphire]

Her aoe stuff seems ok

[undone ether]

wrong channel? 😮

[nocturne sapphire]

Nah Ima shut up when I'm doing rally

Just that

And make my low iq brain take the steering wheel

[versed meteor]

This month is sinnoh, certified bruh moment

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[nocturne sapphire]

Oh ye I just checked sorry

[versed meteor]

I think you forgot something

Lucian has a physical sync

[old orchid]

Lucian is kind of mixed

Gallade has 2 special moves, and the sides have mixed moveset

[versed meteor]

Not gonna help if he just spams drain punch with a physical sync

[old orchid]

the key word is physical-focused tho

but yeah it's worth adding him to the warning for those who got unlucky move rotation

[silver dirge]

So she can just write all 4 are physical focused, go home

[swift swan]

The physical sync won't count

It's only physical attack moves

i sure hope i'm not misinterpreting the wording lmfao

[gleaming jolt]

The uniformity!

[sacred scroll]

Just 3 more ♪

[zealous karma]

Getting all 15 types against sinnoh nice work!

[broken ocean]

is the marine champion one of the best sync pair

[undone ether]

Neo Champion Marnie excels in her nuke and dps at base 1/5. So she's pretty solid for a striker.

[broken ocean]

i will have around 36.6k before she comes like should i get her liker 1/5 and go for another galar bird or should i do 3/5 and if not which is the second best galar bird ??

[gleaming jolt]

#1009554906568462476 is a game mode!
It's not about the champion sync pairs!

So please ask your question in #poma-questions as that is a relevant channel!

[broken ocean]

@undone ether can u help me out there

[keen jasper]

Define best sync pair

[broken ocean]

For me it's like the one who give me most damage

[keen jasper]

Well, we have a lot of that

Lots of damage dealers dealing in the hundred thousands range

[broken ocean]

Umm actually it's my fav Pokemon and when I saw the damage it give I just wanted it

[keen jasper]

Ok

[broken ocean]

Blud is serious bout it 😭

[keen jasper]

Sorry, I'm kind of a meta slave, but just ignore that

[broken ocean]

Nah it's okay

U hv the marine champ

[keen jasper]

No I don't

[broken ocean]

Are u gonna scout it

I am a F2P player

Tho I managed to save like 36.6k

🙂

[lyric gyro]

Cool.

[manic mica]

Which Elite Four Member should I challenge first. Also it says for Round 1 to use Physical Moves against opponents with low defense. Can I take advantage of that?

[warm fog]

Chat looks dead.

Can you post a screenshot of your pairs ?

[old orchid]

each round has a special parameter that applies to both opponents and allies. you can take advantage of the R1 param by using physical dmg dealer(s), but it's fine if you choose to ignore it

but avoid fighting stages that heavily use physical attacks, because the opponents have more chance to wipe you out (the pins have warning about who to avoid on certain rounds)

[manic mica]

These are my pairs and I also have Sycamore And Xerneas and Zinnia Rayquaza.

[old orchid]

you should get all Legendary Adventures pairs asap

they are great help

[manic mica]

Ohh that's cool. Can I check the opponents moveset and stuff?

[old orchid]

yes, you can

the pins have direct link to stage info

[manic mica]

Yeah , I'm working on it!!

[manic mica]

Ohh Alright!

[old orchid]

please turn off ping when reply to me, thank you

[manic mica]

😔 sorry

[old orchid]

all good

[manic mica]

It looks like all the members have more or less good physical moves

The one with the least being Lucian I think

Would something like Skyla , Diantha and Darach be good for Lucian?

Also what are the medals for?

[warm fog]

When you complete champion stadium, all the sync move types of the pairs you used get into the medal.
Once all 18 types are in it, you get the medal and unlock master mode (the ability to reset champion stadium as well).

So it takes at least 2 weeks to complete it.

With master mode, you can make the battles harder for points to get rewards (most ressources to ex your pairs are from here).

[manic mica]

Oh so i have to use a pair for every type?

[manic mica]

Cool!

[warm fog]

The most you can ideally. It can only be done in at least two weeks so you can aim for at least 10 different types so it is easier next week.

[manic mica]

Alright

So would something like Marley , Darach and Diantha be good for Lucian?

[warm fog]

Why Darach ? Darach can decrease opponents atk, which Lucian takes the least advantage of.

[manic mica]

I was thinking about using his brave bird as a source of Damage

Since after 2 Rock Zones , Diantha doesn't do much damage

[warm fog]

He will slowly kill himself if you don't have the Standfast node in his grid.

Or fastly. I haven't used brave birds a lot of times.

You should use Blue and Pidgeot instead and just ignore the rule.

[manic mica]

Alright

[warm fog]

That's what the tips say : "Strike your opponent with special attacks!"

Always read the bottom section (Strategy: Battle Tips) of the tips of each battle. The upper part is the same each time so reading it once is enough.

The recommended sync pairs are not mandatory.

[manic mica]

So how about Cheryl , Roxanne , Blue?

Or switch I switch one of them out for a Critical Hit Rate Increasing Pair

[warm fog]

Don't use Roxanne here. There is a rock weak stage and Diantha will take care of it.

[manic mica]

So Piers , Cheryl , Blue? But then Both my supports are weak to fighting

[warm fog]

There is a dark weak stage next week.

You can still use Piers though. Just so you know about next week.

[manic mica]

How about Blue , SS Blue and Marley?

[warm fog]

I'd keep Ss blue for a harder stage.

Try with Piers, Cheryl and Blue first.

[manic mica]

Alright what should the tactics order be

Piers > Cheryl > Blue?

[warm fog]

Cheryl first then Piers I'd say.

[manic mica]

Ok

[warm fog]

Do you have Viola with masquerain ?

[old orchid]

Piers can block super effective hits, while Cheryl explodes to Drain Punch

[manic mica]

Uh I think you unlock that at the story but I don't have her yet

[old orchid]

so put Piers as the first target

yeah she is a story pair

[warm fog]

I wasn't seeing bug type pair in your roaster.

[old orchid]

you should prioritize getting every pair from PML Arc, as well as 5* pairs from ticket scouts after obtaining all tickets from Villain Arc

they will help strengthen your roster

[warm fog]

No need to rush champion stadium. You got until monday.

[manic mica]

Alright for now let me try the team on Lucian

Also

Should I be using Air Slash or Air Cutter?

[warm fog]

The tips tell to try to flinch so use air slash before mega evolving.

[silver dirge]

Don't rely on the tips

Pre-sync is going to be spent getting most of your buffs in anyway

If your buffs are sorted then you can aim for a flinch, but make sure to prioritise +3 crit and +4-6 SpA and consistently triple queue

[manic mica]

Having a severe Gauge Issue

Should I try Sycamore or would he be too good to use rn

[warm fog]

Save him for later.

Looks like you don't have nanu either. He is a dark type that can buff his speed.

[manic mica]

Should I keep this off for now?

[warm fog]

Yep.

Finish PML arc, grab all legendaries you can.

[manic mica]

So finish PML Arc , Villain Arc and the legendary stories

Then try again?

[warm fog]

Villain arcs don't give pairs directly, but scout tickets. You can do them later.

[manic mica]

Yeah I believe it's two pairs from that specific region

I already did Galar

[warm fog]

You should get Palkia now.

There are currently events to buff him and he strikes hard.

[manic mica]

Alright

[manic mica]

Hiii, i need help for this fight (I’m really struggling )

[old orchid]

Can you show us who are you using?

+helperfaq

i forgot the command, anyway please provide more context so we can give you accurate advice

[manic mica]

that’s all I have left

[old orchid]

How about the type medal progress of yours?

Also could you turn off the ping when reply to me?

[manic mica]

after honestly it’s okay if for the first time I don’t get all the badges, I just want to pass the last two fights

[old orchid]

Can you 3/5 Skyla atm?

[manic mica]

No i can't 😅

[grand steppe]

what are you using for it atm?

cause it looks like you need a better off-type team

I see Cyrus is unused, you should be able to build around him.

[fading cradle]

does aaron need to be trapped/confused? i remember seeing that somewhere

you can probably use viola and masquerain since she can trap with infestation

[grand steppe]

Aaron middle has Acute Senses 4, so yes.

Also entire team has Clear Power-Up/Sync 5. So they get a damage boost when you're not using a weather effect.

Viola would probably be lite on gauge.

As opposed to Will Xatu

I'd try Cyrus, Viola, and Skyla/Hop.

Cynthia should be poison-stallable.

preferably with Sp.Def buffs

[manic mica]

Ok thanks !

i have improved my roster substantially , can i take on the CS now?

[grand steppe]

Regardless of the state of your initial roster, you should always attempt it every week.

[manic mica]

i tried it before and i couldnt do it. thats why i came back.

[grand steppe]

well you look like you can build some teams

[manic mica]

alright, i will attempt it now again

[grand steppe]

Sinnoh is more challenging as the first cs challenge.

[manic mica]

oh ok, ill try to make the teams myself as a bit of the learning process rather than ask for help for every team.

is that an okay plan?

[grand steppe]

well you want to form around a damage dealer, but in this case you also want to account for what the enemy will do

[warm fog]

And have type coverage for the medal.

[manic mica]

Thanks for the tips!

[grand steppe]

Aaron:

• Mostly attacks with Physical Moves
• Gets a damage boost when there is no weather effect in play.
• Drapion takes 50% less damage when not affected by a status change.

Bertha:

• Starts the battle with Sandstorm and gets many benefits from Sand. You should change the weather.
• Mostly physical attack usage.

Flint:

• All enemies double their Sp. Defense. So use physical moves.
• Starts the battle with Sunny weather, change the weather or flinch to stall out the sun.
• Mostly physical attack usage.

Lucian

• No gimmicks, is more susceptible to interruption via Paralysis, Confusion, or Flinch.

Cynthia:

• Will Attempt to Burn the tank, use Flameproof skill or someone with status immunity.
• Togekiss takes 50% less damage if she is not inflicted with a status condition.

Status conditions:
Status changes:

[manic mica]

Aaron sounds brutal

and tysm for the summary

wait , i have a sync pair who ignores all abillities i think , so can i use them for Aaron?

[warm fog]

You mean with Piercing Gaze ?

[manic mica]

i think wait let me check

piercing blows

[mellow linden]

Piercing Blows is the passive that ignores damage-reducing passives, yeah

[manic mica]

on SS N

would that allow me to bypass Aarons gimmicks

[mellow linden]

It would let you ignore the damage reduction if not affected by a status change

But he would still deal increased damage unless you change the weather

[manic mica]

not the weather one tho?

[mellow linden]

A Sync Pair with Piercing Blows only ignores passives that would affect how much damage that pair deals

It has no effect on how much damage that Sync Pair takes

[manic mica]

alright thanks

so many things to consider lol

[mellow linden]

If you’re not gonna need him elsewhere, Blaine would let you deal with both of Aaron’s gimmicks

Since Fire Spin applies Trap (which will disable Acute Senses) and he has Sunny Day to apply a weather

[manic mica]

boosting your offensive power , the enemy abilities , maintaining a variety in type for medals , and losing the pairs after one use

[warm fog]

Don't worry, the variety in type is when it's easy to win.

[fading cradle]

aaron is pretty notorious for being brutal lol, but like cobalt said, blaine is the perfect pair to counter aaron’s gimmicks

[manic mica]

yeah , his only other use i can see is with Silver and Ho Oh and i dont think i using him

[mellow linden]

Type medal is a lot easier than it sounds to manage

[fading cradle]

there’s also bertha who can also trap and change weather but seems like you didn’t pull her yet, no worries though since blaine can fulfill the same thing

[manic mica]

i think the best plan would be trying to have 2 pairs maintain the whole battle while the third slot is for the type you lack good units in

[mellow linden]

A common new player mistake is trying to force monotype teams when you’d get more team synergy out of a multi-type team

[mellow linden]

Great plan, a strong duo + a filler slot is one of the most common ways of filling type medal progress

[manic mica]

im not for that atleast 🙈

[fading cradle]

it should take around 2 weeks to finish a type medal, so it isn’t that hard. it will mean you’ll probably be making some goofy looking teams and off typing but as long as they have team synergy, you should be fine

[manic mica]

the win is all that matters

[warm fog]

Good. You're becoming like Silver or Paulo.

[mellow linden]

A common phrase is “if it works it works”. If you won the fight the most we might have to say is some possible improvements to make it easier in the future

[manic mica]

time to come up with some goofy teams

[fading cradle]

at least you aren’t doing kalos as your first champion stadium. kalos was my first one and it was so brutal i couldn’t fill out my type medal entirely 💀

[manic mica]

im not facing kalos anytime soon so

still have 5 months i think?

or 6

[fading cradle]

you got hoenn and johto between now and kalos’s predicted run

so 2 months

[manic mica]

wait Sinnoh > Hoenn > Johto > Kalos??

[fading cradle]

yeah, it goes in that cycle i believe

after kalos is unova then ít circles back to kanto

[mellow linden]

They might decide to do an easier CS region (probably Johto) during anniversary month

[manic mica]

alright for lucian , im using Lysandre , Tina and Sophocles

[fading cradle]

they can do that??

[warm fog]

I'm not seeing emma despite she's in your screenshots earlier.

[manic mica]

forgot..

i need to fix that

[warm fog]

I recommend to fill the tracker type by type and check with the counter on top if you got them all.

[manic mica]

alr

[warm fog]

Cynthia's vulnerable to poison this week. You should be able to stall her with Emma and 2 other pairs just for the medal.

[manic mica]

emma , erika , skyla

[mellow linden]

They’re not required to stay to a fixed order

[manic mica]

thats the poison stall team i always run

[fading cradle]

oh interesting, it definitely would spare me some pain to have an easier cs after sinnoh instead of another hard one

[mellow linden]

Emma is a poor choice for Poison stall because she’s a very strong damage-dealer

[mellow linden]

I’m not saying it’s guaranteed, so be prepared for a harder one just in case

[warm fog]

Grass and flying are easy types to fill (there are stages weak to them). Maybe from types you don't have many pairs ?

[fading cradle]

as always, i haven’t filled out the medal for hoenn or johto yet so i got the silly teams prepared

[warm fog]

Everything for the medal.

[fading cradle]

did you finish the story yet? i don’t see koga in your roster either, he’s a nice f2p poison unit to have

[mellow linden]

Anyway, Janine + Ariados would be a better choice here for Poison stall because of Venom Drench

[fading cradle]

but yeah, you should definitely focus on filling the type medal

[mellow linden]

And she fills the same spot on type medal

[manic mica]

Alright

[warm fog]

I thought we were making goofy teams.

[manic mica]

currently fighting lucian so ill have to go over all the messages again

[mellow linden]

So final team layout of Skyla/Janine/BP Erika (Tangela)

[fading cradle]

there is never a time where you will not make goofy teams

[warm fog]

Sure about using Skyla and Erika ?
There are grass and flying weak this week.

[mellow linden]

I was talking about compared to the previous team setup they had of Skyla/Emma/BP Erika

But even in general as long as they can hit 9-12 types this week they’ll be fine

You’re not required to hit the full 15 on week 1

[warm fog]

Poison stalling is easy and having 2 more types like that is almost free. No need good synergy, just survive.

Tank with the trainers if needed.

[mellow linden]

Recommendations will obviously change depending on what they’ve got left by the end

If they have Emma available they can just run a regular offense-oriented clear, for example

[manic mica]

Alright Lucian done

Not sure if it was the best team but it worked

are there any free units that can lower attack and are support?

[warm fog]

Lodge Wally.

[mellow linden]

Is there a particular reason you’re asking?

[manic mica]

i want to nerf aaron

[warm fog]

A support buffing Def/Sp def is easier to find. And with a weather setter you should have no trouble.

[mellow linden]

Don’t worry about Attack debuffs for that

Defense buffs and a weather setter will be plenty for facing Aaron on the defensive side

[manic mica]

hop or is he too valuable

[mellow linden]

Hop can work depending on your damage-dealer

[manic mica]

Larry

i think he can deal some damage

[warm fog]

Which pairs did you use until now ?

[manic mica]

Tina , Lysandre , Rachel so Fire , Flying , Dark

[mellow linden]

Larry + Hop might work. Not 100% certain if gauge problems will happen or not, but would likely be fine if your weather setter has a passive that boosts gauge speed while their weather is active

[manic mica]

btw im lvling all the units to 120

as to save resources is that fine

[warm fog]

119 and let the pairs get to 120 as you use them.

[mellow linden]

Level 120 is the level I’d be recommending anyway

So yeah, level 120 is good

[mellow linden]

There is zero need for that

The amount of “waste” from any missed battle xp is a drop in the ocean

[warm fog]

[manic mica]

time to make grandpas horse bigger

[mellow linden]

If you’re that concerned about “wasted” battle xp then unlock cap to level 125 and level them to 120 with books

But that level of min-maxing xp is wholly unnecessary

[manic mica]

im not lol

Wait

off topic but why is dudunsparce so big

[warm fog]

Because dunsparce's fans would feed them all day.

[mellow linden]

Iirc it’s big in the main series, so they probably just carried over a similar scale here

[manic mica]

ok

after a few tries its getting close but not working

[warm fog]

You're running Hop, Blaine and Larry ?

[manic mica]

yes

[warm fog]

What if you grid them or give them lucky skills ?

[manic mica]

hmm alright

is there a grid guide?

[warm fog]

Go to #bot-zone , use the /pair command and you should be able to see base grids.

[manic mica]

can i get vigilance on Hop through cookies?

[warm fog]

Yes with blue cookie.

[manic mica]

didnt get it lol

[warm fog]

None of these three ?

[manic mica]

no i meant i used them all

no vigilance

[warm fog]

Oh.

Better luck next time.

Larry is sprint. How about using a striker ?

[manic mica]

wait let me try with grids

ok done

thanks for all the help thus far

[warm fog]

Well, thank you for bringing life in this channel.

[manic mica]

LOL

ok for third stage im thinking about bertha since for flint i think my diantha solos

wait

i think Rei is actually good for the round 3 param

[warm fog]

Sorry I don't know Rei's kit.

[manic mica]

he basically does alot of things when he uses sync moves

[warm fog]

So Rei with a weather setter to get rid of sandstorm.

Pelipper ?

[manic mica]

sure

[warm fog]

Too bad Pelipper is flying type. But there is water type weak next week so it wouldn't change much.

[manic mica]

my only other option is uhh c-c-Candice...

[tardy minnow]

Blaine?

[manic mica]

alr used on Aaron

[warm fog]

There is ice weak next weak so you'll probably be using Ghetsis or Pryce.
And hail will hurt Rei.

[manic mica]

i have SS N

isnt he good?

[warm fog]

He is.

I forgot you had him.

[mellow linden]

Hail’s chip damage is a non-issue

So Candice is a fine pick

[warm fog]

What ? You're letting our poor pokémon get hurt ?

[manic mica]

should i grid candice?

[mellow linden]

But Winona being available makes her a better option due to flinch

So up to you

[warm fog]

I'll go to sleep now. See you tomorrow.

[manic mica]

let me try winona first

[manic mica]

good night

[tardy minnow]

G'night!

[manic mica]

ok i was worried for nothing

rei absolutely dominated

[mellow linden]

Expected, honestly. Guy should shred the vast majority of CS stages on Hard Mode

[manic mica]

i knew stanning decidueye wasnt a waste

ok flint done aswell

starting to get a hang of it

Alrighty , I beat it! Thank you all so much for all the help and I had a lot of fun and learned a lot and hopefully I can start doing this on my own from the future

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[manic mica]

Thank you!

[warm fog]

Amazing. You’re a proof new players can beat it.

[manic mica]

Thank you! , I mean I think with enough determination anything is possible

[warm fog]

Say it after 15k-ing master mode.
And then you'll help other people.

[manic mica]

Nvm I'm scared.

[warm fog]

It'll become easier as you ex your pairs by beating master mode.

[manic mica]

I have 50 5 star Power ups

But I'm scared to use on anyone

[old orchid]

it's recommended to EX 5 - 6 supports first

feel free to drop your roster in #1217072266878124122 and we will help you

[queen wedge]

I beat bertha so far and wondering who to try to beat next? I dont have a lot of pair options.

I have all legendary adventure pairs now

[gleaming jolt]

Whoever you choose for a particular round, depends on team you are using, how much they can be benefited from that round params

Here are the parameters!

[queen wedge]

Can i get help building a team for either aaron/flint/lucian for round 2?

[gleaming jolt]

Which 3 pairs did you already used?

[queen wedge]

Sycamore, ss lyra, rosa

[swift swan]

You have the new Selene, rock-weak should be a breeze

Iirc that's the stage where flint sets sun, so preferably you change the weather

If this is hard mode, Lysandre should be enough for Lucian

You might have to offtype Aaron. Make sure to inflict a status change on him (flinch, trap, confusion, rebuff) because he'll take less damage without status change

[rapid osprey]

@queen wedge i used lucian in my lucian clear - do you have him in your roster?

[warm fog]

Yes according to the screenshots a little above.

[rapid osprey]

growl + stupefy and then blue w/ pidgeot (or any special flying, but for me air cutter was my best) went brr, most supports work for anchor

ah ok thats them above - just hopped here from #poma-questions at gakon's redirection

[warm fog]

No worry. Just speeding up the helping process.

[queen wedge]

Oh i do have lucian

I see thank you

[warm fog]

And Blue.

[queen wedge]

Ill try that

[warm fog]

Do you need to complete your medal ?

[queen wedge]

I assume lenora support prob wont work as shes weak to fighting right?

[rapid osprey]

oh and specifically for round 2, i did bertha

[queen wedge]

I have lucian and aaron left

[rapid osprey]

yeah, but if you're going special atk then -def isnt super useful either

[queen wedge]

Dont have many ground type units for aaron

[rapid osprey]

for aaron, courtney should be fine

[old orchid]

you can use an offtype dmg dealer + a Ground type as filler

but Courtney should work fine

[old orchid]

Lenora debuffs both defenses

[rapid osprey]

oh she does??

[old orchid]

how is your type medal progress @queen wedge?

[rapid osprey]

wow im even more hype for her to join the unova ticket pool

these were my comps if youre also medal farming and want to maximize type variety

if you have your medal, erika + lyra rather than silver is much better for bertha

also you have selene/nihilego so aaron should be a breeze

[queen wedge]

I used selene for flint lol

[fading cradle]

who do you have left to battle in the e4? is it just lucian?

[queen wedge]

Ok i beat lucian, i have aaron left

Any team ideas for aaron? I tried before and didnt have enough damage

[old orchid]

you have to bring weather and inflict a status change on him

(you can check the stage info via the pinned link)

[rapid osprey]

have you used acerola yet?

[old orchid]

ig you have used SS Blue and Skyla?

and *Sycamore

[queen wedge]

Used all of them already

[queen wedge]

Not yet

[rapid osprey]

acerola is your sand setter then

[old orchid]

can try Fall Caitlin, Courtney and SS Lyra

or Acerola as hell suggested

with Lyra flinch lock enemies, weather is not a huge concern

[queen wedge]

Ill try acerola, used lyra for bertha already

[old orchid]

for Acerola, grid her with Aggravation at least

it will help a lot

[queen wedge]

I dont have courtney?

[rapid osprey]

you dont? i couldve sworn i saw her on your sheet

[queen wedge]

Nope 😦

[rapid osprey]

in that case, maybe not acerola. maybe we go real weird with it and go blaine (fire spin + sunny day), whatever ground unit you do have (clay??), and a support with vigilance (ideally impervious too, but vigi is the big one here)

[queen wedge]

I have clay and hapu lol

[old orchid]

you can try Fall Caitlin, Mix Blue and a filler Ground

[rapid osprey]

woof

[old orchid]

preferably Mix Blue wants EX

[rapid osprey]

does mix blue set weather/rebuff?

im not familiar with the mix units

[old orchid]

yes

his kit revolves around sun

[rapid osprey]

oh neat

[queen wedge]

Mix blue meaning the dynamax one?

[cinder summit]

Blue (Classic) & Charizard

Acquisition:

Mix

Roll Cake:

Alternates:

Blue & Pidgeot
Blue & Exeggutor
Sygna Suit Blue & Blastoise
Blue (Classic) & Aerodactyl
Blue & Arcanine
Blue (Champion) & Zapdos

[queen wedge]

Oh ok

[rapid osprey]

so thats 2 sun sets, on sync (ex) and from dynamax

should be enough time to clear

[queen wedge]

Hes worth it to ex in the long run right?

[old orchid]

yes

[rapid osprey]

rip that its a paid only unit but yeah that looks absolutely insane wow

[queen wedge]

I bought like a 1 dollar pack and pulled him with the paid scout lol

[rapid osprey]

im debating buying the completion bundle for the anni so that i can do the role scouts and help fill out my roster a bit; maybe ill throw some at mix with what's leftover

[queen wedge]

Alright guys, im left with cynthia now, what boost should i use to help me the most?

[old orchid]

you need to determine who are you gonna use first

try to craft a team, and we will give feedback

[queen wedge]

I cant use any of the pairs ive used for cynthia right?

[old orchid]

yes, you can't

[queen wedge]

I dont have great poison types so i guess im going to have to go offtype?

[old orchid]

i thought you said you have used Selene

either offtype or poison stall

[queen wedge]

Yea i did

Can i change my option later?

[warm fog]

Yes.

You just have to go to the battle selection screen and select Cynthia again.

[queen wedge]

Oh i beat it with 1 try w clay and palpitoad poisoning them lol

Thank you guys for the help

[trail smelt]

lol

[manic mica]

I tried to make some teams on my own for the next Champion Stadium. I'm missing Electric , Bug , Fairy , Ice , Ground on my medal. Any tips or suggestions?

[old orchid]

Sounds okay, but some teams can get improved

Better use a real Fire dmg dealer instead of Kukui

Cynthia team is a bit awkward, if you have Event Bugsy & Scyther use him instead of Viola

Candice doesn't help SS N (hail does not boost Ice attacks) so you can move Viola to there and use a gauge support in Mina team. Also hopefully you have Mina gridded

[manic mica]

doesnt bertha need a weather changer

and i was thinking about changing kukui for viola and then put a gauge support in cynthia team

[swift swan]

She hits harder under sand, so preferably you change the weather, but this is not mandatory

[swift swan]

Viola for trap? Sure

I would just switch viola and kukui's spots around. Kukui's pretty fast with gauge and helps with def debuffs

[manic mica]

yes thats exactly what i was thinking when making these lol. as for bertha i feel like having a weather changer would be great so i think ill put winona there.

[hollow horizon]

oops

[warm fog]

"Those 3 Pokémon cannot be poisoned !"

[undone ether]

Geeta dps and nuke. Must be nice.

[trail smelt]

I goddamn love her honestly lol

[swift swan]

updated

[keen jasper]

Half sync again? Awesome

[manic kiln]

somewhere someone is fuming half sync is fun

[undone ether]

jeesus. 175k side, 125k mid.

NC Red just destroys xD

[trail smelt]

Half synced Cynthia just because lol

Accuracy buff turned out to be handy, forgot Spiritomb was an evasion hax unit

Ready for next week

[spare arch]

what are the worst champ stadium parameters

[manic mica]

Thank you Gakon and Nov for all the help. I was able to complete my type medal

[undone ether]

hahaaha... ny lisia gets kills by sync nuke of cynthi.

/me loads up the 2 rats and a zapdos

[warm fog]

That was fast. Now you can reset and attempt master mode. Don't put too many options to begin. You'll notice that some options are free depending on the team you use.

[manic mica]

Lol , I prepared yesterday so I wouldn't have to panic today

And thank you!

[old orchid]

starting with 850 pts per stage first is easy, you can check the pins for set parameters

it might be even easier since you don't have to deal with type medal now, thus better teambuiling

[manic mica]

Alright thank you! I will try to attempt master mode.

[old orchid]

best of luck to you

[manic mica]

Gotta be honest tho. SS N literally destroyed Bertha lol .

I might use him again with a physical defense reducer for master mode

[manic mica]

Wait does the no status condition parameter work for only the enemy or both allies and enemy?

Nvm I figured it out

[pine schooner]

Would anyone know who I can use to clear aaron in MM?

[warm fog]

Is it the first battle ?

Looks like it's the third one.

[pine schooner]

Fourth, actually

I used zama blaine and silver awhile ago for 800 pts, restarted and going for 1.5k

But the problem is, I used zama for another battle and I’m confused which support can tank hits from heracross

[warm fog]

I think you can replace Blaine by Flannery to burn the opponents early. And she can help tanking if your support dies.

[pine schooner]

Let me try that team then, will sycamore be all right?

[warm fog]

You should save sycamore for Cynthia.

Which pairs do you see when you search for Supports that buff Defence ?

Maybe SS Blue can do it.

[pine schooner]

SS Blue, Roxanne, Aaron, Surge, and Marlon

[warm fog]

SS Blue and Roxanne can also buff Silver's Sp.Atk.

[pine schooner]

I see, so I’ll be using overheat

[warm fog]

Do your silver have Dauntless ?

If not, you can farm some cookies in the gauntlet.

[pine schooner]

which cookies does dauntless appear in?

[warm fog]

The blue one (creamy cookie).

You'll get 1 to 3 of those each win. And 1 chance over 8 to get Dauntless.

If you haven't started a streak, just find a team that easily beats one of the battle and keep resetting at each win to reuse that team.

If you're lucky, you might get Deluxe cookies which can only be obtained through gauntlets.

[pine schooner]

Got it!

[warm fog]

You already got Dauntless ?

[pine schooner]

Yup, after 15 cookies

I’ll go farm gauntlet

[swift swan]

Non powerboosted silver should work fine for 1.5k. just go for a nuke grid and spam sacred fire instead of overheat. His sync is physical anyway

Keep blaine, set sun before silver syncs. Your third should be an attack and crit buffer

[true bloom]

Ooofff I thought only Aaron Vespiqueen gonna heal

Turned out his Heracross also

[nocturne pawn]

well that was stupid

[sharp willow]

Half sync cooldown is pretty universally considered the worst, Physical/Special move power ups make you think about the order you do the fights in, the physical/special reduction parameters prevent quadqueue, and the rest are not a big deal

[keen jasper]

People really hating on half sync

When it's really the round param where you get to use the most uncoventional parameters ever

[sharp willow]

Its easily the one that has the potential to cause the most issues

[keen jasper]

-1 and -2 sync, half HP, role takes x3 damage

Literally you can use those for cheese strats

But I guess people don't really cheese much fights

[manic kiln]

for limited, meta units, you don't even need to sync to clear
for f2p. gen pool units, post sync is fine and safe, you can presync half sync round with some smart team building and parameters

[keen jasper]

You can still cheese using half sync with F2P

It's just a matter of who's the easiest for you

Call me crazy, but half sync is probably one of my favorite round parameters ever

[trail smelt]

You’re crazy lol

[manic kiln]

i get it because you can try some new teams and strategies, otherwise CS is such a snoozefest these days

[pine schooner]

Went with 8k

[keen jasper]

Half sync will teach you how to brute force

If you're willing to do it

[warm fog]

Which parameters did you choose ?

Your stamina will soon be full.

[pine schooner]

For the cynthia I did a +9 strength, enabled stat drops to drop spatk w moonblast, I think I had about 1.8k

Overall steven nuked after a xerneas sync since Lucian softened them up

[warm fog]

The 2 first options are always free if you raise your crit.

[pine schooner]

Aaron though, I had to lower

[keen jasper]

Is this your first CSMM or not?

[warm fog]

Playing with 4 gauges instead of 6 is also not a big deal.

[pine schooner]

No one but zacian could tank an angry heracross

[pine schooner]

Yes it is

Been only playing for three weeks

[keen jasper]

Ah ok

[pine schooner]

hence the limited character pool

[keen jasper]

First time I did CSMM was also Sinnoh, and I did 7900/10000 2 years ago

[pine schooner]

Sinnoh seems painful from what I’ve backread

[warm fog]

For Aaron.

[pine schooner]

so underwhelming in mainline games, but an actual threat in pomas

[warm fog]

[keen jasper]

Just like the Kalos E4

[warm fog]

Now that you finished the medal, choosing the Standard Damage Reduction is also free 300 points per battle if you strike on-type.

[pine schooner]

Anyway I’m really thankful for the advice

I had fun tinkering up teams that’ll fit each battle lmao

[pine schooner]

ooooo

[warm fog]

The no WTZ is also free if you use none of WTZ.

The more you ex your pairs the easier it will be.

[pine schooner]

So for next week, how can I earn more champion spirits?

[warm fog]

Reaching 10k points would be already a good progress.

Which electric/grass/psychic/ghost/fighting strikers/tech you have ?

[pine schooner]

I can check that out later

[grand trout]

Can Bertha be beaten without overriding sandstorm? I kinda wanna use dcgladion

And i don't really have a support that can set hail

I have ncred if that matters

[warm fog]

Bertha with nc red is easy. Just freeze the one that will attack and they won't even take advantage of their boosted moves.

Maybe you got an eggmon that sets hail ?

[grand trout]

I think i have one but i don't think they can sustain enough

[warm fog]

I forgot if nc red benefits from hail.

No need hail though.

[grand trout]

Anyway i got it, used melony and ice Beam to sleep/freeze chain

[fading cradle]

why is bertha hard

[grand trout]

It's the sandstorm

Overwrite it

[fading cradle]

i could barely get by her on hard mode 😭 not sure who to bring in master mode

[grand trout]

Can we see your ice units

Do yoy have ssmorty?

[fading cradle]

yep, i have him in my aaron team though

[grand trout]

I had success using melony!

What i did was quadqueue using her max move first + using sing before the middle moves

The other 2 can setup while melony denies turns via sing

[grand trout]

What are your other weather setters?

[fading cradle]

this all i got

[warm fog]

Acerola is perfect.

Or Bertha.

Winona then ? She can also flinch.

[fading cradle]

i could give winona a go once i unlock master mode

working on it rn 🤡

[true bloom]

ASDFGGJJKLLJFIXTSADOHOB

If only my blue at least 2/5

[pine schooner]

and I thought I had it difficult

Aaron is just something else

[true bloom]

I'm noob at this game huhuhu

[pine schooner]

same,,, I used aaron to beat aaron

Took about 30 retries but we windows

Ooo nice blue btw

[true bloom]

Cool xD
I need to tweak something first and try again

[manic mica]

I was able to beat my first master mode! I don't think 5k points is too bad. Had a lot of fun ngl

[fading cradle]

aaron is just a huge troll lmfao

thought i had him before he could sync but bro had to have the endure effect on 💀

[true bloom]

Aaron is demon offspring

[fading cradle]

wait until electric weak aaron comes

he’s literally the troll of trolls

[true bloom]

Huhuhu people have rats but I have none because I just started march this year

Painnn

[fading cradle]

yeah i don’t have the rats either so electric weak aaron is gonna be absolute pain

[true bloom]

cries

[fading cradle]

he’s gonna pull this move on all the non rat havers

[true bloom]

This is truly demonic
I remember this from Cheren champion stadium

I had to lower the parameters so low just to beat him

[fading cradle]

i didnt even try master mode for the cheren stadium bc there’s no way i can master mode a monotype cs

[mellow linden]

Heal Order can be stopped via flinch/sleep/freeze or by Paralysis’ move stop/confusion self-damage

[lean lion]

just interrupt the move. Stage is difficult regardless because of SEx2 so not many *accesible options either way.

[manic mica]

i think I have to use Rei for Aaron next time

[mellow linden]

Alternatively, you may be able to just nuke him from full HP outright depending on your team

[mellow linden]

Electric weak Aaron has doubled base Defense (this is not ignored by Piercing Blows)

You’d wanna use special damage

[manic mica]

Hmm..

Pray I get a good electric unit in the 100 free pulls next week

[lean lion]

SST can brute force right? at 1/5?

[mellow linden]

A 2/5 Hau + Volkner should be able to do it with a proper Support even at a decently high point value Master Mode

[mellow linden]

Probably

[manic mica]

1/5 Volkner?

[fading cradle]

welp hau it is next week then

[mellow linden]

Should still be fine

[fading cradle]

what’s an optimal support for hau + volkner?

[mellow linden]

2 Electric Terrains should be enough

[manic mica]

Probably SS Elesa?

[fading cradle]

i got hau at 5/5 and volkner at 3/5 so hopefully they can sustain

[lean lion]

Someone to max Hau's stats

[mellow linden]

Ideally a dedicated Sp. Atk. + crit Support

[manic mica]

Sycamore?

[fading cradle]

hm i haven’t taken a look at her kit

[mellow linden]

SS Elesa isn’t a great Support pick for Hau since she takes too long to max Sp. Atk. + crit and is reliant on an MP Refresh to max crit

[mellow linden]

No crit buffs

[manic mica]

Huh I swear geomancy gave crit buffs

[mellow linden]

MC + Torchic, while a bit squishy, is probably the best budget Support pick

Especially since Volkner can flinch via Thunder Fang to boost team survivability

[lean lion]

Sabrina is another option

not sure whether she needs move levels

[fading cradle]

what kind of attacks does electric weak aaron use?

[lean lion]

maybe needs 3/5 for max crit

[fading cradle]

bc sabrina is really frail physically

[mellow linden]

She is. Not the most ideal (and needs 2/5 to max crit, iirc), but she can work for sure

[manic mica]

Wait let me see Aarons Kit

[mellow linden]

Falkner is also an okay option (not ideal, but works in a pinch)

[lean lion]

Stage has both special and phys moves

[fading cradle]

base falkner?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

[fading cradle]

can ss elesa also work?

[manic mica]

Can you not ignore Sentry Entry with Crits?

[mellow linden]

Sentry Entry x2 doubles the base Defense stat

[lean lion]

it doubles their base defense so no

[mellow linden]

This doubling cannot be ignored at all

[manic mica]

Hmm

In my roster , I really lack special attackers

[mellow linden]

She’s basically worse Falkner for a Hau Support

I’d try MC + Torchic 1st for sure

[manic mica]

How do you obtain that?

[mellow linden]

Main story

[fading cradle]

huh, alright

[manic mica]

I completed it except for like one stage

[mellow linden]

Do be warned that MC + Torchic needs 2/5 in order to max Sp. Atk. + crit

Because they need 1 MP Refresh

[mellow linden]

Should be amongst your Supports then, if you don’t have them then go back and do whatever story stages you haven’t done yet

MC + Torchic is a regular Sync Pair, not an eggmon

[manic mica]

I have to use a support candy no?

[mellow linden]

For 2/5, yes

[manic mica]

Hmm alright

[mellow linden]

Worst case scenario you can always off-type or Poison stall Aaron

[manic mica]

Hmm yea.

[fading cradle]

there we go

[manic mica]

I don't think it's a option but as a last resort I will most probably use Rei and try

[lean lion]

what move level is Rei? and do you have C Rosa?

[mellow linden]

To be honest I think Poison stall has better odds of success than Rei purely because Rei would be off-typing and has to deal with the doubled base Defense

[manic mica]

No and Rei is 1/5

[manic mica]

Maybe with SS May and her def debuffs?

[mellow linden]

Wouldn’t be much better

[lean lion]

Then, yeah, what Cobalt said

better off poison stalling before trying Rei

[mellow linden]

Maybe somewhat better due to access to Sun, but Poison stall is honestly pretty easy to pull off (especially since iirc Aaron doesn’t actually have many hard-hitting moves on his Electric weak variant)

[manic mica]

Yeah

I'll see what I can do when the time comes

But I'll be prepared with torchic beforehand

[fading cradle]

poison stalling aaron???

never have i poison stalled a cs stage before but i might gotta try it if hau team doesn’t work

[queen wedge]

Whats the strategy for cynthia?

[lean lion]

Fairy weak? She has Wise Entry x 2 so you wanna use Physical damage dealers

which Fairy type damage dealers do you have?

[manic mica]

this worked for me and don't know if it'll help but , try using mina with pecking order in her grid and a defense debuffer. then use charm and then sync with mina.

[lean lion]

Mina works. Bring a support who can max her stats. Debuff their attack with Charm and 3rd can be a def debuffer.

Is this hard mode or MM?

[queen wedge]

Hard mode

Thank you guys

[fading cradle]

not sure who to replace riley with here to fight bertha in master mode was thinking of a weather setter, wallace, morty, and may are already in other teams

[mellow linden]

Could try Hala + Candice + Attack & crit Support (ideally one who also helps the gauge)

[fading cradle]

what move level should hala be? i have him at 2/5

[queen wedge]

What battle buff should i pick? Tried using caitlin/nanu/mina and die too fast

[mellow linden]

2/5 should be fine since iirc that’s when he gets Haymaker

Alternatively if you’re inclined to EX and grid your Candice even a 1/5 Hala should be good

[lean lion]

Anything other than R3 should be fine. Is that Fall Caitlin? If so she can't max Mina's stats (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Can you send a screenshot of your available Supports? Nanu and Mina are fine but you need a different support.

[lean lion]

2/5 Hala + Candice to change weather + crit/defensive support should work

[lean lion]

And what's your progress on type medal?

[lean lion]

You can replace Nanu with Tina and Flareon

[queen wedge]

And caitlin supp?

[lean lion]

Do you have a BP pair voucher by any chance?

Cause your only missing Ghost for MM and idk if we can fit a ghost type in a Mina team

[queen wedge]

Yes i do, havent used it yet

The normal one though not the 5* one

[lean lion]

I think you should get BP Morty and poison stall Cynthia to register Ghost and unlock MM this week

He's a 4-star

[queen wedge]

So it would be morty/mina/tina?

Or poison stall

[lean lion]

BP Morty, Janine, Lucy. Just bring everyone to 120 and you're good.

Poison everyone with Lucy (Poison Fang), Janine spams Venom Drench to debuff stats. Morty buffs defense and tanks.

Idk if you're familiar with it, but it's a strat where you use Poison to make enemies take damage over time.

I'm only recommending this since you're one type away from unlocking MM.

[queen wedge]

Oh i used janine alrdy lol

I see

[lean lion]

Is Ghetsis available?

[queen wedge]

Also used him alrdy

[lean lion]

Viola also works. But you'll be a little vulnerable to the sides' physical moves

[fading cradle]

which one would work best? (ss morty is in another team already)

[lean lion]

Hop or Aaron unless you need them for another team. I say save Aaron for Cynthia.

Do you know which damage dealer you'll use for Cynthia? If it's BP Valerie or Mina, definitely save Aaron for Cynthia.

[fading cradle]

yeah bp valerie. alright, hop it is 🫡

who can i replace nate with in my lucian team? sidney is my main nuker for dark sadly

[formal vigil]

replace nate with brycen man for dark rebuff

also 2/5 masked royal would be better than 1/5 sidney

[gleaming jolt]

Non of them can be Grided for sync nuking!
Offtyping would be better option I guess!

[formal vigil]

masked royal does get pecking order at 2/5 should work with dark rebuff though just off typing with nate might be easier yeah

[fading cradle]

hm i never offtyped 3k before, i just can’t figure out parameters for that

[gleaming jolt]

You have to change the standard damage reduction (300) with something else.
What I do is select the Max HP 6 (300) for offtyping!