#Champion Stadium
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Oh, right, hahaha, I forgot
Should I also use her trainer move that burns the Chandelure?
you should, especially when she has burn damage multiplier
if burn is your concern you can grid Lessen Burn 9
She has that in her sync grid?
yes
Okay, I'll soon check her out. Thank you, Gakon!

I'm stuck on Olivia with round 4 effects, don't know what strat should I follow
I was attempting to get 2500 master points on her
What team are you using against her?
tried different ones
I'll get a pic of what I can still use
tried fitting in giratina or volcanion
and kyurem to take advantage of the "Stat lowering effects have greater effect"
Tried Incineroar too
- Only ground types I have are Mudsdale and seismitoad

You can try SC Barry + a support + a flinch bot/sleeper as an offtype team
do i want a support that buffs my sp def? or that maxes Barry's attack
Barry maxes his atk with the first sync, so i suggest bringing a spdef support
Preferably they buff speed too
cleared it with Wormadam, SC Barry and Acerola. Thank you @old orchid

now I cant beat the Champion 
any good Fire type left?
ss red 1/5 with EX
a support + Red + sun setter should blitz through easily
this decidueye is immortal
don't stack too many defensive params
I finally did it, several tries looking for perfect RNG
ss Red, Rapidash and Zamazenta
thanks for your help Gakon
Ok dang
Lemme check csmm rq
Olivia ground weak
Acerola electric weak
Honestly Wallace victini and morty can easily blow past kukui
Try nc nate Aaron Kiawe
@fading cradle I'd probably try a off type pre sync
for acerola?
For Olivia
oh olivia
I think Acerola has healthy advantage
should i do olivia r3 or r4
R3 is physical moves powered up
R4 is debuffs are more effective
Second plan is max hp like Tony suggested
Then last resort is poison stall 
Sync with Aaron first then NC nate
Time the black outrage after sync to get a second sync before the enemies act
Or try to kill the left enemy to get 2 syncs before the enemy syncs (quad queue)
For Acerola try SS Lysandre Xerneas May?
Try same strat
Just try to fish for burns as much as you can
I'll be back in like an hour 
Or less
I would sync with Nate first
He can also afford a more defensive support. Aaron is slow at buffing defense
Idk what they have not gonna lie
Oh wait it's Olivia my bad
Sonia probably doesn't work though due to potential Earth power
Or hop
But he's kinda just eh
Brb
tbh idk what other parameters to add to make 9k. i already checked off the ones the document said for off type pre sync
i do have reduced healing on
You don't really need to follow the document, just try to reduce the difficulty as much as possible
you don't want to pick no WTZ param when using EXR Nate
I think they do have exr
yes
Just try reducing the difficulty as much as possible
Pick the high points one then go to the lower points
-2 gauge, gradual healing, power on hit, 2 shields, no status cond/inter, special DR are free params for this comp
from these you can add more strength/atk to get the score you want
Now actually be right back
are u referring to power on hit 1 or 2?
both
I am not aware about NC Nate's requirements (I mean status change, No stat reduction and interference immunity) but It is roughly what you can use I guess!
you stacked too many HP params
Yeah I do that most of the time for offtyping
3/5 NC Nate is very good at dmg, you can run atk params instead to rush
I wouldn't suggest picking up power up on hit with hp params
Maybe it is not feasible for others mb!
just pointing it out because it seems you don't want to drag the battle to be too long
because you picked sync buff up too
I can learn a few things here!
that much hp is fine.... with non offensive stuff
So Attack instead of HP is better here right?
Yes
anything i can add or delete to the ones i already turned on?
ignore first screenshot oops idk how that got there
that's okay ig
but be careful of the strike takes x3 dmg
ik Nate can deny sides but you should still be careful
yeah olivia kinda just destroyed me with her sync move
how much HP did she have left?
what team are you using? can you share your Nate's grid?
i’m using the aaron kiawe nate team ace suggested to me
also remove strike take x3 dmg immediately
you can run Kiawe NC Nate and a flinch bot to buy time (remove the interference immunity)
or a spdef buffer + defense debuffer like Colress
oh and here’s nate’s grid, it looks a little random since this was a grid from like a few months ago
I have question here!
Does this affect EXRs? Like if I bring NC Cheren in some stage, will it cause x6 damage?
does he require interference immunity removal?
for Colress no, his job is debuffing defense and acc with Mirror Shot
you should use this instead: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10001/61201?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgcJERITFhkbHiAhJA
your current grid is quite bad
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
nope, only base role
I would say you should always use a Sync Nuke dependent grid for CSMM!
idk man, can’t figure this out, it’s just the moves she chooses to use that’s killing my entire team atp 🫠🫠🫠 im not sure if im sequencing the moves right or something
who is the support? you should use someone who buffs spdef quickly
with Colress round he is not needed
use sp like Misty who has spdef and evasion buffs
alright, does misty have to be 5 star or gridded for this?
4* is fine, her grid has some nice stuff so it's always good to grid her
alright, should i follow the utility grid or the evasion grid here?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11000/12100?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFExQVGBocHiAlJicq you should use this
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
for some reason that link still shows the nate grid
thanks
who should i use misty’s tm on, both colress and nate?
phew that was a bit too close for comfort but it did work so thank you gakon 
i’ll solve acerola in the morning, it’s like 2 am now 🥲🥲🥲🥲
smh go to sleep
i will 😔
Nice!

Did not expect misty and colress to tank
I severely underestimate f2p tanks nowadays
To be fair I remember one time Alder opened with a hyper beam to misty and she tanked quite easily with +2 special defense
For Acerola I do believe she has health advantage so try something like SS Lysandre May and Sycamore? I believe that can manage the 3k csmm. Though I could be completely wrong about sycamore though. The helpers here are probably a lot more knowledgeable than me around budget team comps
I’m confused
I specifically remembered a driftblim with healthy advantage
Is that not acerola?
that's Electric weak Phoebe
Ok I think I just haven’t played the game in a while
Acerola only has 1.5x base spdef
Spreading misinformation
Where’s the tank
do u guys have any tips for acerola? she is the last e4 member that i need to defeat
using sonia too early
i made a mistake fr
I think you have to offtype here!
Are you doing Master Mode?
Or doing Champion Stadium Hard Mode?
hard mode
Show all the available pairs you have
And types you have registered in the type medal
any thoughts on bp sophocles for 3k acerola
don't think i have strong enough off-typers
Where are the types

No, go to the CS stages and click Hall Of Fame to find your type medal.
There's a medal above the cs that registers the types you already did
Please show it to us so we can choose units we can use moving forward
this one?
That’s the one!
Yay
oh
You see as much as possible
For hard we try to encourage players to use all types
So we avoid type repeats if possible
You can use: hau, elaine and sidney
Wtf not sidney i mean drake
So electric normal and dragon are covered
and now prof kukui 
oh sh
Lol it's fine
i use sidney instead 
You need dark anywaye
alr

btw in the first 3 battle against hala, olivia, and kahili. i didn't know that i should use as many type combinations as possible
so i repeated using the same type
is that okay?

It’ll slow down your type medal progress, but it’s not game-ruining or anything
Just keep in mind that you shouldn’t try to force monotype teams (and I mean that everywhere, not just CS). If you have a good team that happens to be monotype, then great. But good team synergy will always come before Theme Skills, and you often get better team synergy by running a multi-type team
woo just finished my first ever csmm
i accidentally used the off type pre sync params instead of the on type ones for kukui, oops
what would those supports be
atk/def buffer?
Probably someone who gets crit & attack up quickly and if you've got electric terrain then them too. For eg: Sonia 3/5+ or bp surge with Volkner for terrain
good to know for the future
i just brute forced it w nc silver
updated
ghetsis nuke had no reason to go so hard
Dates are wrong tho


whistles this week got nuked lol
Hello everyone, we still have 1 more Alola CS week before a new region starts, right?
Yes. We do
Fun CS week
That's Drasna wow! 
And it's poison stall against Acerola?! 
All of that just with two sync pairs!
Impressive! 

not yet
If not use Cyrus’s Tm 2 times and then spam his Dark Voice
alright noted man
should i replace roxanne with other unit
for medal
this is what i have
There really isn’t any major gimmick you need to worry about, as long as you’ve got a solid team it should work
How many fights do you have left, including Kahili?
It’s Hard Mode, so should be plenty doable
Can get 2 of your remaining types done by just running Cheryl and Viola as Ghetsis’ teammates, for example
That would leave 3 types for use across 2 fights, which should be easy
alright let me try, thanks man
could i 3k any of the stages this week with any of these teams i used for hard mode 
Using the exact teams? Would probably be difficult for about half of them
But for most of them the adjustments are just replacing the Support
Can definitely do that and then just have one team member buff critical rate
As long as you have Critical Focus gridded on Cyrus you can give it a try
i won haha
you have no idea, my palkia was dead, fighting garchomp with 24% hp left with only Heliolisk, keep spamming discharge
thanks cobalt
anyway i just unlock master mode
is it realistic for me to atempt it ?
or should i be content with this
Guys do u think I can achieve 8k points with this roster?
Btw I think I can make some pairs ex if needed
4250 points total (850 points per stage) can be done with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode, and in fact would likely be easier since now you don’t have to worry about type medal
Should be, yeah
If you wanna do 8k total you can use one of the 1.5k (per stage) parameter presets from the pins as a base and adjust/add to fit your teams
hmmm, which supports should i change then? here’s my full support roster
A few possible adjustments:
- You can shuffle Skyla over to NC Nate’s team (since Nate is self-sufficient) and use a Sp. Atk. + crit Support for Ghetsis instead so he can spend less time on self-buffs.
- BP Morty really doesn’t do much (if anything) for SC Irida, a crit Support would be a far better pick.
- Depending on how intent you are on using Wally you may be better off replacing him with a different damage-dealer (or something like a Defense debuffer/other damage-boosting utility pair) and running Aaron as the Support.
- You can probably replace Brycen-Man with someone who better boosts Raihan’s damage.
noted
I dont know why I'm struggling with Olivia now
she's my last elite 4
Can't use Solgaleo cause of enemy Physical Defense
any solution ?
do you mean that you're running a physical damage reduction parameter, or something else?
oh, that can be bypassed by critical hits which is something you want to be doing no matter what anyway
just have to build your team to help buff Solgaleo's crit rate if you don't have the Power Boost from the Alola Villain Arc event
anyway is there a list of handicap that we should choose to get a good result ?
I manually choose them before
there are example parameters in the pinned messages for various point thresholds
if you're using steel type damage dealers like solgaleo, standard damage reduction is effectively a free parameter you can take
otherwise, just try it out and see how it feels to ya
wait how does the standard reduction damage parameter work again? does it like lessen damage taken from attacks that aren’t super effective?
The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters are free points, as all they do is set Reflect and Light Screen respectively, and both of those field effects are ignored by critical hits (which your damage-dealers should always be doing)
anyone beat Olivia with 3k points that is f2p and would like to share? I swear she's given me trouble every week
Poison stall is generally the “if all else fails” option
Either Kimono Grimsley or MC Solgaleo can do it
trying them and hasn't been working
What team are you using?
grimsley does debuff defense
r1
i just don't have the dps to kill her before she can get her sync off
Yeah he does but I think you're having guage issues with this team?
it doesn't really feel like it but i could be wrong
Solgaleo is weak to Ground so be careful to not stack too many offensive params
Or you pre sync her
i was using nanu but he wasn't really doing much aside from screech
Do Hop and Solgaleo have their grid filled?
yes
Do you have enough caps and books to upgrade Solgaleo to lvl 140?
His flinch is quite great
And do you have Skyla?
i would rather spare them, closest i got was the gigalath at 17% but this was after dozens of attempts
Can you send your params?
I couldn't keep up with your progress. I think you are trying 3k?
Yeah they're trying to 3k

What happened?
I would avoid picking def up 1 and max hp 6
While power on hit are free params
I doubt non PB Solgaleo can pre sync without using sleep or flinch
what should i swap def +1 for do you think? after the sync is what kills me
the gigalath and golem just do too much damage
Remove strike and tech damage x3 and half ally mp for power on hit 2
That's why you keep dying so easy
You can try defensive approach with Hop as the dmg dealer or post sync with Solgaleo and strong defensive backbone
strike damage x3 doesn't affect sync tho does it?
i'm saying enemy sync
i'm pretty sure the damage is the same
and olivia's sync is leaving my sol at like 9% hp and then when i kill her rock slide just wipes the rest out
i'll give it a couple runs
Gakon do the x3 params affect enemy sync damage?
Yup
So they'd have an easier time postsyncing without the x3 params
i'll send a vid
You can skip the vid if you want, sync is at 0:50 seconds with x3 off and 1:50 with x3 on. In my testing sync actually does less damage with x3 on. I’m using moves to be wary of the defense buff you get for being on round 1 to make sure results aren’t skewed
It’s not an actual run just meant to show that sync doesn’t affect x3
Unless I’m missing something here
You'll have to KO mid before sync. Then you can eat 2 moves from sides. You'll have to grid endurance on Solgaleo though.
it's not possible for me
I tried this and was able to clear presync but my Hop is EXed
i can't kill mid before sync
i have to step away for a bit but i'll try and record a good run so you guys can see what i'm seeing
so these are possibly my teams for csmm, using the advice cobalt gave me in hopes i can 3k all of the stages, not sure where to put kgrimsley though
the Grimsley team's gauge is tight
you don't have to use monotype team, any spatk support works better than Phoebe in the Ghost team
you better use a speed support for Raihan
Kahili and Hau team are fine
hmm, who can i insert/replace in the ghost and steel teams then? (spatk support and speed support rosters)
Roxanne is a decent pick for Raihan
you could also use SS Morty there
for Ghost, Leaf, Kiawe or even 3/5 Lodge Morty works
got it, who should i replace in raihan team?
Rose, obviously
Couple thoughts, not hitting the lycanroc before sync so I don't raise the defense; she's just going to heal back any damage anyways. Also my sync didn't crit but not sure it would've made a difference
here are params
i can send roster too but i don't want to flood the channel anymore
you got unlucky with both sync not critting
also, don't pick both tech and strike take x3 dmg
feel free to do that
i think either way they're gonna get 1 shot by the rock slide at the end, my sol only has 666 hp
even if he were at full hp
better than eating the sync
Trout suggested gridding Endurance earlier, it's an useful node
still, get rid of them to deal with the sides
at what level
130
and any difference in gear?
you can opt to reset for some Hop's TM MPR
no gear used
the most decisive factor is getting rid of nasty strike + tech take x3 param
did they sync
nope, its possible to presync
what did you change to get the kill presync
also, sorry i'm looking for the grid and can't find it
who is it on?
you'll have to do one of 2 things: either grid hop with adrenaline and give him 1st sync. Or move Olivia to round 2 and quad queue after both Solgaleo syncs
Solgaleo
found it
wait, sorry for interrupting, i just need this answered rq
if im using vfalkner, should i take the no status conditions and no interference params? bc his b move is basically all that 💀
he is fine without disrupting the enemies
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/900000/79100?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFFxgbHyAiIyQoKy0v you can try this build
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
I can try to clear this on R2 without Hop sync if you want. R1 prevents quad queue so you either need Adr or you can't get to 2nd sync.
hmm, so im at 2,750 points for olivia rn, wondering what else i can turn on to get 3k
I'd pick STR 2 and ATK 1 for the remaining 250 point
looking back, i think you should replace Grimsley with Nanu for cheap gauge flinch bot, or bring another Fighting dmg dealer like Wally or Bea
pardon me, what does str stand for 
did it, should nanu be gridded? i candied him to 3/5 recently
got it 🫡
I dont think Nanu needs grid, but Bite mgr might come in handy if you're struglling with gauge
why Burst In?
so he has 60% flinch ready on turn 1
altho some supports can buff +3 crit right away so you can take it off when using him with them
ohhh got it.. passive + burst in

i keep fucking up on olivia
raihan has a weird skill where the sync countdown is reduced by 1 at the beginning
you can take no status condition off then
tbh the problem is Raihan himself
if you have PB Solgaleo, it's the better choice
yeah i have mc and solgaleo, how should it be gridded
does it have expanded tiles?
i dont believe so
like Haymaker and Furious Brain
yep don’t have it
what move level is your Raihan? for dps he is much better than Solgaleo
i assume you don't have any Steel Zone setter
yarrdenia is my only one and she’s with the ghost team
well…nvm. changing the no status conditions param to the -1 sync countdown param did it

who to do r2 now…not sure whether to do molayne or acerola bc im saving kahili for r4
Doesn't really matter
idk how a 1/5 riley is gonna do in csmm though, stupid me didn’t know i had the free opportunity to 5/5 him so he’s kinda just stuck like this
you can use both together
weirdly no, my gen pool luck when it comes to her is as good as getting a master fair on the first multi
How about Wally
Hmm
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12800/47500?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFCAoNERQXGBkcHSAwMTM0 we can try this grid
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
You want someone to lower speed for his cakewalk and wally needs at least +1 speed
So ig you can bring Riley along for some extra DPS
alright, i’ll give it shot whenever, it’s pretty late here now 
Dw take your time
i could level riley up to 2/5 too bc he’s literally my only unit who can consume a sprint candy, but ive been told it’s not really worth it, so i just gotta live with the 1/5 riley
and i did a mini test run just now and holy hell, the damage is minimum. yeah this is something i’m gonna have to do in the morning
It took good rng and an hour of trying (I got flinched at the end on 4 different runs) but I finally got it thanks Gakon and Trout
Nicely done!!!

Reset isn’t for awhile though
yeah lmao not sure how to beat molayne with 3k in csmm, especially bc idk how to grid a 2/5 aaron and im really only able to get molayne down to like 90% hp before everyone faints
idk if i have to possibly off type him or what 💀
Do you have bea? Or Lucian to support Solgaleo?
weirdly don’t have bea, and lucian is on another team for kahili
Can you afford to not run Lucian against kahili she is one of the easier psychic stages do to having lower native hp
kahili is ice weak this week, this was the team i planned to use against her. could lucian be replaced?
is the pb the grid extension? bc i don’t have that extension either 🫠
It is ye but now that i remember it his expansion didn’t really do a lot for him so it probably doesn’t matter
hmmm alright, what kind of unit can replace lucian if i were to do it?
Another option to lower Atk would probably be darach as he also can lower evasion helping Ghetsus accuracy issues*
i do have darach, only at 1/5 though, does he need a grid?
Probably not he’s primarily there to lower Atk in aoe
alright, so replace lucian with darach and probably move lucian to the molayne team?
Ye you’ll run a brainteaser solgaleo grid






Type:
Weak: 
HP: 573
ATK: 401 | DEF: 168
SPA: 343 | SPD: 162
SPE: 283
Main Story
Player & Pikachu
Player & Torchic
Player & Regirock
Player & Cobalion
Player & Mesprit
Player & Registeel
Player & Alcremie
Player & Togepi
Focus Blast Without Full Grid Expansion (3/5)
Focus Blast Without Full Grid Expansion (3/5)
- Some extra tiles above are locked behind an event
Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2
got it, how should lucian be gridded? i got him at 3/5
If Lucian’s just there for his debuffs then his grid isn’t that important, maybe grab Charging Infliction if you can spare the orbs
Ye
beat molayne with 3k with said team, thanks for the help!
okay now i’m struggling to 3k kahili 💀 doesn’t help that sycamore’s sync boosts special defense instead of physical defense
Do you have any other special supports Ghetsus needs 1 crit from somewhere as he doesn’t like to click tm more than twice and sycamore not being ex + no Pb really weakens him as a support you’d likely be better off going for side denial on the left with Ghetsus first sync if you have no other special attack supports
i can only recall sabrina but she has really tacky physical defense which is what kahili seems to be hitting from. here’s my full support roster (can’t use ss morty, v falkner, kiawe, or aaron)
and skyla is being saved for hau
You can use leaf evee but have to grid her for critical squad also can buff spak via tm all ramped up
Ye she is pretty good one
Helps gauge and has a lot of benefit to syncing (she is a high priority ex support early on)
so a team like this? (is there also a leaf grid i can copy for this battle)
just take TM All Ramped Up + Crit Squad at least
with Darach you can take Critical Shield for free 150 pts
got it, how do i sequence these moves? bc i feel like im kinda slow when buffing ghetsis
use Leaf and Ghetsis TM first
Darach uses Defog first -> Feather Dance
don't bother using Brave Bird after the enemies are at -6, spam FD
still can’t beat her, she gets me by her 2nd sync
got it, so how should i grid this?
try this: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1700/13300?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggaHB8hIiYuLzAzNDU
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
since your Ghetsis doesn't have PB, you can pick Ally HP down on entry so he can max spatk easily
got it, do i use both mps of ghetsis and leaf’s tms?
yes, ofc
holy shit my first csmm 15k clear
thanks to everyone that helped me 
ty! focus blast solgaleo clear almost had me dead bc aaron and lucian both died and solgaleo somehow dodged discharge and ko’ed the last side 🥲

It's good AF for freebie fighting
Much better than wally
In times before the expansions were a thing, Focus Blast Solgaleo was brought the best out of his kit
It only got easier to use thanks to Lenora and Lucian
You prayed that there wasnt a fighting weak and steel weak in the same week ;-;
At least back then ugh
I'm gonna try FB Solgaleo next time we get a fighting stage
I've never used Solgaleo after getting 3/5 K Grimsley and Riley
KGrims is great
Could you share your grid?
Can try the sync grid doc since it should be the regular nuke grid. The key imo is to use his TM before the sync to get the SEUN
Praying no dragon weak and water weak in the same week because cyrus would be busy. Ah those were the days
Here you go.
Btw he's EXd and like ARK said, save TM SEUN for sync.
Brings mid from 100 to 0 on 1st sync, and this is without Steel Zone
kgrimsley is good? i might have to invest in him the next time there’s a steel weak stage
At 3/5 and above, he's really good for a genpool pair. I'm not sure whether he's worth investing in below 3/5 though since I didn't use him before that.
With supp EX and Steel Zone
is this hard mode or master mode? no matter what, im still gonna try and invest in him, he might actually hit harder than my raihan
without steel zone was already crazy enough to me
all hp params????
i definitely need to see this for myself, what grid do you have on him?
thanks! i do have a 3/5 kgrimsley so this’ll actually be pretty helpful
do you have any lucky skills on him?
got it, thanks! i’ll try all of this on the next steel weak stage
Just makes sure enemy has max debuffed defense and use Grimsley TM right before sync for the SEUN
be aware that Olivia has Toughen Up 9 so it's way harder to keep her at -6 defense
I only used TMs and status moves on Grimsley and Marnie till 2nd sync , Hop gave them +1, so Grimsley was able to keep mid max debuffed
Kind of a waste to use supp ex if it already one shot 
I like denying left with 1st sync and using Metal Burst to one shot mid, but it needs them to attack at the right moment
That way you only have one side to deal with
This was 4k points max hp. I don't think Grimsley can one shot mid with either sync or Metal Burst without supp EX. Inflated their hp just to see how hard his nuke can hit.
Oop i didnt see the 4k pts part 
For this I think you need to quad queue TM after sync, left moves, queue Metal Burst, hope mid doesn't queue TM
Started off as screenshot damage testing, ended up doing the full run.
KGrimsley vs R2 Olivia 4k points max hp
For damage-dealers you can build teams around, could do:
- MC + Solgaleo for Olivia.
- Bea for Molayne.
- Summer Gardenia and/or Shauntal for Acerola.
- Ghetsis for Kahili.
- Cyrus for Hau.
Alternatively you could off-type some of the stages with picks from your various broken limiteds like NC Cheren, SS Lysandre, Adaman, etc.
I’d recommend starting with putting together teams built around your selected damage-dealers on your own (make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines!) so you can continue working on your teambuilding skills. If you’re uncertain about how well a team will work you can always post the team here and ask for opinions on it
Ok I will give it a go…thanks
How do these team look for cs at reset?
Have to off type water stage with the Ss lana/Steven team
No 1/5
I completely forgot about him
it's still better bring another Grass type with him instead of Blaine
even 1/5 SS Erika works very well
I don’t think I have Erika
I have brendan
oh Selene works too
idt she needs grid, but it will help
These work better? Put iono with cyrus to lower spdef
Hello everyone, can you show modifiers for hitting the wrong type? I want to try to pass them
the pins have recommended offtype sets
updated
It's sinnoh lol
Yay
Now, we shall wait for the final week's weakness
Which of the Alola Elite 4 deal special damage?
You can see their info in the pinned pomatools link
I am stuck with Hala since I do not have any good Fairy type damage dealer
Can somebody help?
Yes, but I'm so sorry, really sorry, you're a bit... late, I just finished it
I went through 10 attempts to beat Hala with BP Valerie, BP Morty and Colress
My mind's a bit clumsy tonight, I forgot to give Valerie Critical Strike 2 until the 6th attempt and the reason why Hala was just so durable is that I turned on Strength 1
I realized that he won't be as durable after I beat him
I turned off all rules in frustration and gets no points in exchange
Silly me
I can do a reset, but going through all that? Maybe later
Also I think I got a new favorite Grass type general pool damage dealer sync pairs, Brendan and SS Erika
Not the best, but, they're all I have, plus Erika's Solar Blade looks so cool and hits really hard
I thought the animation was gonna be Leafeon slashing using its tail, just like its Pokedex entry that says that its tail is really hard that it can cut through steel
But it's still good
This team screams for gauge, and Valerie takes ages to buff herself
these were the teams i used to beat hard mode this week, any changes i can make for master mode?
They are pretty good
Tho Sycamore might struggle to tank because he can't buff his defense, you can solve that by bringing another defense/speed support
Erika team can afford another Grass type dmg dealer or utility
got it, should i move skyla over to the sycamore team? unless anyone else in my support roster can replace sycamore
would brendan work for this team?
He works great, especially at 2/5 and above
Sonia works in Skyla's place
got it, so move skyla and replace sycamore and put sonia in the valerie team?
Yep
hala and acerola keep killing me by the first sync
i tried both of them r2
Yeah, they were slow, but, they won anyway
Plus, Valerie just need 3 turns to maximize her buff
I added Furious Brawn and Atk+2 Entry on her sync grid
If you're running presync params, you're supposed to kill them before they get to sync
Both the hala and acerola teams should presync no problem
im not doing enough damage to kill them before they sync, idk what the problem is 
not sure if im queuing moves correctly, param issues, or it’s something else
What team are you running?
these ones for hala and acerola (kahili was cleared 3k with no problem)
i usually do the more hp pre sync params
The pins one has a 2.5k preset. What do you add to complete 3k?
can’t change wtz, no status conditions, interference immunities, and occasionally a max sync countdown -1
Are you alternating between Sword Dance and Play Rough for the Super Effective Up Next?
Also using Swords Dance before sync?
Ehhh i wouldnt get max sync countdown
i could try that, i usually use valerie’s tm and do a swords dance (sonia’s tm gives valerie her other attack boosts) before i sync
You dont take HP params at all, right?
Swords Dance applies SEUN which will boost your damage by a lot
not at all
Alright
hm, how should i queue valerie’s moves? i usually use both of her tm mps and a swords dance before i sync, idk if im doing that right especially with valerie being slow to buff herself
Dont take max sync countdown, make sure you have SEUN before valerie syncs
Max valerie's offenses first before you use any other move with her
Also make sure you dont take the wrong phys/spec damage reduction
You can pick Fanfare on Skyla's grid, Fierce Entry on Valerie's grid. So you can start with TM, TM, Swords Dance, Play Rough, Play Rough (cause you want SEUN on sync and only have 1 move remaining before sync 2), Swords Dance, Sync
oh wait, yeah i forgot to say i replaced skyla with sonia, i just queued sonia’s tm twice and have valerie do 1 swords dance to max out her attack
Is Sonia 3/5?
2/5 
You can try him. Saves you a couple Valerie turns spent maxing stats. With him you can go TM, Swords Dance Play Rough, Swords Dance, Play Rough, Swords Dance, Sync
All moves powered up by SEUN
Should definitely clear
hmmmmm alright i’ll try that. so i start with aaron’s tm?
Give him first sync, but you'll have to quad queue
Yeah two TMs will give +4 atk and +2 crit
Combined with Valerie TM and SD, that's max stats in 2 moves
got it, i’ll give it a shot. not sure what to add to my params though to make 3k bc i’m 50 points short after removing the max sync countdown -1 param 
Try these params
Make sure you pick the ones with the check mark. I've made this mistake before. CS params look confusing on PoMa tools
yeah that was confusing to look through 😭 i was like “is this person trying to get me killed” before you sent the following message 
that still didn’t kill hala quick enough before he synced 
Even with Supp EX?
yeah, valerie’s sync only brought hala’s hp down to like 80%
We can try removing the bulk again then
Yeah atk 1 and 5 instead of strength 2
got it, what other param can i take? im 50 points short again
Both attack +1 and +5 should equal 200
does hala have anything that is NOT an attacking move…he keeps one shotting aaron when he chooses to use close combat or ice punch 
He can start with X Defense All
But I forgot about Ice Punch, Aaron is weak to Ice
My bad
With all that atk, Ice Punch is hitting hard
yeah it’s an instant one shot lol
hala was easier to 3k when he was flying weak, reminds me of why i hate fairy weak stages in the first place
Try replacing Aaron with Hop, give Valerie both syncs. After using 2 TMs, you can spam potions to try and keep Healthy Benefits 5 active on Hop, would need a few potion MPR.
Make sure you quad queue Play Rough on right after 2nd sync, or EQ one shots Valerie
how do you quad queue again? i understand triple queue but never got quad queue
Someone use the command, idk what it is
+quadqueue
Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!
The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.
Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :
- If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
- If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)
17 seconds · Clipped by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters) · Original video "Sinnoh CS 2k Aaron Fire w/ Flannery" by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters)
Worked
should have tried that lol
@fading cradle
in case you are not aware, his offensive stats are increased for Fairy weak stage
so Fairy weak stage naturally hits harder than other Hala stages
it might have to deal with what parameters you have setup
you could try using staggering 4 on aaron to prevent close combat from hitting
Oh no it's Melissa trying to clear 3k Hala with BP Valerie
oh
Here's their roster, trying to find a good supp to tank and help buff Valerie faster. They weren't doing enough damage to presync so we went with more atk instead of STR
are they trying to 3k?
Yeah
Valerie takes too long to buff, not enough turns to do damage
since idk if sonia can buff crit at 2/5
Yeah, I suggested Hop with pot MPR luck and healthy benefits 5
dena just gave me another reason to hate fairy weak stages now
i could try using hop, how should he be gridded?
is your hop grid expanded?
nope
this should be fine
thanksss
seriously what’s with this stage
i still can’t kill hala quick enough before he syncs
what is your grid on valyrie?
i copied her sync nuke grid from the document in the sync grids thread
and you have lucky skills on your team right?
im sure i do
i think it’s that atp 😭
do you use swords dance before sync for super effective up next on sync?
I tried this and honestly, dropping Colress wouldn't hurt. Just bring another support to buff defense and more potions (Sonia). Valerie can KO without def debuffs.
yep
EX?
And you can lose some atk for no stat reductions
valerie isn’t ex
hmmm alright i can try that
it might just come down to your parameters then
Omg this CSMM make me sweat!
ESPECIALLY the fight against Hala took several tries, meanwhile others required only 1 or 2 tries!
I think DC Marnie was a waste in Sindney's team, Masked Royale might be better but anyways!
Next week I will throwing (15) sync pairs to unlock master mode!
This is the last one I guess
What CS do we get next week?
Sinnoh
15k points☺️
Quick question, you can get 2 syncs in before Hala syncs, right?
It was happening to me too, Hala sync just before my second sync almost everytime!
It took me several tries to get that perfect opportunity to quadqueue after Hop Syncs? I think that's the factor!
Yes, quadqueueing is one of the ways to guarantee getting another sync before Hala does
Hop's Freevenge proc screws with qq
He has adrenaline
Melissa's Hop's isn't PBd so I told them to sync twice with Valerie
Since no supp ex
But with Hop syncing iit shouldn't be a problem
As long as you can get 2 syncs before Hala it should be fine either way
I tried it Nov and seems like Valerie needa the 2 syncs or supp ex
And even then you need to qq play rough to KO mid if sync low rolls
I don't know if it is what Melissa also doing or not but I did like Valarie TM, Hop TM, Colress Screech, Valarie Swords Dance, Hop TM (hopefully TM refreshes), Colress Screech, Valerie's Move, Hop Attacks (assuming freevange), Colress Screech, Hop Syncs, Colress Screech, Valerie Swords Dance, Hop TM (Quadqueue), Colress Screech, Valerie Attack, Hop Potion and so on then Valerie Sync
They don't have Hop's EX so Valerie is taking both syncs.
Also, if you're syncing with Hop, grid Adrenaline so you don't have to quad queue.
Is it from grid or Lucky cookie?
Grid
Oh! I have mostly used the same two types of grid on Hop, one is attacking and one is defensive!
Never paid attention adrenaline was there! I will make adjustments now itself for future uses!! Thanks
https://youtu.be/WdUdl_DxVrU?si=-GCktxB04vt0F0-D @fading cradle if Hala is still giving you trouble, we can try a flinch strat
please ignore the audio 
Bringing a flincher allows you room to pick up ally hp down
It'll take some time to get used to and the rotation might be messy though. You dont need to grid anything for nanu, but getting charging infliction would be helpful for gauge
What I get out of this is that Nov desperately needs friends.
The entire helper team is her friends 
i can probably try this, though i gotta move nanu from my acerola team
and i couldn’t get a 2nd sync before hala synced once
think i only managed to quadqueue once out of the many times i restarted the battle and even then valerie doesn’t do enough damage to kill hala before he syncs
Alright, if you can't quadqueue then you really need some flinch denials to reach your 2nd sync in time
Try the params i used here
hi
is there tips for which order gym leader should we beat each round to have an ideal run ?
Everything is fine except just don't battle Hala at round 3!
#1009554906568462476 message
And it mostly depends on what teams you are using!
So you will find different people doing these at different rounds!!
whoops procrastinated on this
how did you grid hop, valerie, and nanu?
and should i restart the battle if hala doesn’t flinch first turn
Valerie has the nuke grid
nanu doesn't need anything other than maybe charging infliction for the gauges
as for hop, just get TM MPR and potion MPR
you must flinch the close combat, no matter when it is used. Hop can survive any other move
dude how do i do this, my gauge is so slow 😭
hmm, even with nanu's x speed?
the gauges were admittedly hard to juggle
that's why sometimes you see me clicking valerie's TM again
idk what to do with nanu tbh, i keep going with bite bc he’s not having luck flinching the enemy
well yeah you should be going with bite
but you're fine cycling one screech or two to get gauges
im so close to giving up what the hell, he will not flinch
im about to off type him at this rate, i can’t do this no more
If offtype solves the issue, go for it
man this entire stadium is stupid i give up, hala is literally impossible
offtype or lower your points then
offtype didn’t help either
guess it’s lowering the points then
i hope whoever decided to make hala hit harder on fairy weak stages specifically steps on legos 
Hala is possible but with Invested F2Ps, so it might take some time to establish all types of damage dealers!
it's possible, but don't stress yourself if you can't do it. the game's supposed to be enjoyable
Though once you have done it with lower points, you may try reset it and give it try with another team (this time master mode only with Hala) with different params and region!
fuck hala fuck hala fuck hala fuck hala
might give it a shot if i finish this stadium

I assume for hala you don’t have a gridded BPValerie
valerie has her sync nuke grid
I see
Can I do dark type elite four with this roster plus lissadre and yveltal
I want at least 8k points overall the stages
Your Dark roster doesn't have many good choices (yet). How about offtype dmg dealers?
This is my roster
You have a couple of good offtype dmg dealers
Like SS Steven, Klara, Summer Gardenia...
You can still do ontype with Sidney + The Masked Royal. I asked you to show offtype dmg dealers in case the ontype comp fails to clear
The ontype fails with the 1.7k points I want to achieve
What params did you use? And who was the third slot?
I used dawn for defence
The Params are special dmg reduction can’t change zone sync-2 -2gauge and some more
It’s around 1.51.6 k
I reduced it to 1200 and did it
What about rock?
Well Dark weak Acerola uses special moves mainly, so using Dawn is not a good idea
I will try to get more points later after I switch dawn
2/5 Olivia unlocked Inertia which is her most important tile
Is olivia kukui roxanne good team?
It's not
You don't need to build a monotype team
Replace Roxanne with a physical support, or someone is bulky at least, like Skyla
Unless you’re dumb like me lol
Pre sync means you clear the battle before the opponent's first sync
Post sync is the opposite
Technically post-Sync just means you don’t care whether or not the opponent Syncs (though you still only want them to Sync once at the absolute most)
what is this 1 year old post ping
My bad man
it's alright, i'm just confused
That parameter set is for hyperoffensive teams that are meant to clear on your 1st Sync. For most players I would recommend avoiding the -X Sync Countdown parameters
noted
previously i get 5000 point with this
wanna try to aim higher as i recently get SS Lyra and Selene
Should be doable even without those 2 if you make team adjustments (can probably get at worst close to 7.5k with just adjusting team comps)
Any decent team for olivia?
SS Lysandre and May already work well, but 1/5 Elio doesn't do much
Get a good speed support for gauge, and don't forget to set them as first target
Will hilbert work?
You don’t need to run a monotype team
Ideally you’d want the Support to also help May get her necessary offensive buffs
Lysandre and May are a great core, just find a gauge support at least
And do not to pick no status param. Lysandre really wants opponents to be burned
Summer Marnie can probably do it as the team’s only damage-dealer unless you’re doing high point value Master Mode
I aim for 8k total
So I need at least 2k on this so I did it with nc cheren
Now about kahili I’m having hard time
Is this good combo?
I upgrade them 140 both of them
You don’t need level 140
I did it anyway
Replace Kukui with a Sand setter and make sure Hop is being targeted 1st
Acerola then?
And make sure Olivia has her Inertia, Sand Blaster, and Stone Edge Amped Up tiles from her Sync Grid
If no Bertha then yes
I have bertha
Bertha’s probably gonna be a bit better then
Also, make sure to restart the fight if the Salamence lands Toxic
Ok I will give it a go
trying to aim 2500 on every stage
is this good enough ?
any tips ? or any unit should I replace ?
for Hala i use deoxys as currently I dont have hard hitter fairy other than Xerneas
Support and Tech that I have
Why are you trying to use Janine against Kahili? She doesn’t provide sufficient value to an offense-oriented clear and Selene + Nihilego isn’t a good choice for Poison stall
Really there’s a lot of adjustments that you should probably be making
To name a few:
- SS Steven is wholly self-sufficient, SS Brendan and Hop are kinda wasted here (if you want Sp. Def. debuffs then Lenora’s probably a better Support pick in this instance).
- Rosa and Roxanne are largely redundant, you’d be better off adjusting the team to have a 2nd Dark damage-dealer and changing the Supports as needed.
- You’d be better off running Cyrus under Rain if you want him to do Hydro Pump damage. Winona’s a good option.
I just make use of Janine Venom Drench, but thankfully I won
Noted
this better ?
For now, as you get more Sync Pairs and invest more in the ones you already have you’ll likely want to adjust further though
good day. Need help with this. Can I show my roster ?
Do i access type medal progress on the championship page? Sorry, ive only been focusing much on stories to get all the gems
this? All of the hard level 1s are at base level for now because im yet to clear any
to see your current progress, go to a stage -> medal icon
Ofc you can show your roster preferably just the 5*’s tho as we assume you have demotes (unless you don’t)
all 5*. Ill complete the remaining legendary advs in an hour
Alright make sure to also give them their power ups too
For water you can do: Winona Cyrus Roxanne (Or melony if you can’t grid Cyrus for critical focus)
Dark: Sidney Kiawe Brawly
Rock: Janine Leaf Viola (this is a poison stall)
Grass: SSEirika Hop Colress
Alright. Im gonna power them up. Appreciate the help champ
can this do the job?
managed to get this for cyrus' grid. Focus, healing and critic rate reduction prevention
Is there any reason you want to keep Cyrus at 4/5
That's great
You only need to get the last Cyrus dupe, and change tactic to make Roxanne tank and Cyrus being the third target
i tried a few runs and roxanne was dying way too fast. I have to start with her all defense buff + speed buff right? and then winona's terrain > cryus own speed/attack buffs.
Make sure to always do triple queue
Roxanne has bad bulk so it's a good idea to upgrade her to 4*
lol i want to beat this stage so bad
thanks for the help. Those speed > crit buffs on cyrus are absolutely crazy. I could one shot them after just one sm
I seem to be struggling with my current team, currently on Round 2, tried Olivia, Acerolla & Hala but still struggling
What params are you using? Hala has increased atk than normal so you might have to adjust your params to avoid him hitting too hard
Bringing an atk debuffer instead of Lenora would be good too, or replace Steelix with Torterra if you have her
i use off type post sync
I see the problem
That set picked too many offensive params
While you can pick free ones like no interference and no wtz
Sync buff 5 and power on hit 1 2 can work too
i see
noted
in your opinion Gakon
would it be realistic for me to aim 15k today ?
I only achieve 5k previously
I think it's fine to get used to lower pts first
No need to rush
The rewards in 15k don't pay off your effort
Good luck dude
Steelix is fine
If the team gets very low hp and is vulnerable to their next attacks, consider using an atk debuffer instead of Lenora
Use Protect right before the opponent's sync
Finally won Gakon !
If I use On Type Post Sync, wdyt ?
Against whom?
Acerolla
with this
I think, main damage dealer gonna be absol
and darkrai just spam dark void cause of special damage reduction option
Sure, just make sure you turn off some parameters like interference immunity, no status condition, and no WTZ because that team utilizes it
Actually, what move levels are Sidney and cyrus
Both are 1/5
