#Champion Stadium

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grand trout
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You can use hau as dps

sinful heron
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hau/clemont would require someone who can do spatk/crit in one

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and I don't think I have anyone who can do that fast

grand trout
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No chase rip

sinful heron
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like I have NC Bede but it's hardly quick buffing

grand trout
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There's always offtyping

grand trout
sinful heron
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offtyping means messing about with params a lot though, I still can't find any that work.

grand trout
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You only need to crit for clemonts nuke

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He can spend countdown by slowing opponents via electroweb to proc his innate

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Plus his tm guarantees crit anyways

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And clemont has grand entry on grid

sinful heron
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ok so hau/clemont/nc bede for aaron.

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that's one

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...how the fuck do I handle the other four

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I'm gonna need NC Leaf for Cheren, I think that's a given.

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ontype or offtype, the debuffs feel mandatory and it sorts the rebuff malarkey

grand trout
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You can use lodge volkner for acerola

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I think he has a respectable nuke

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Siebold and phoebe require paralysis though

sinful heron
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I can throw Sonia at one easily enough

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HE Spark is basically guaranteed

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and then there's Sophocles or BP Surge for the other

sacred scroll
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You should raise LVolkner to 5☆ at least imo

sinful heron
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he is

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my only 4*s are eggmons

sacred scroll
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And if it doesn't work, EX

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I couldn't make him work

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I relented to Hau

sinful heron
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ok I might go for something absurdly stupid for LVolkner

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pair with VKris

grand trout
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Do NOT use siebold for r4

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His razor shells will hit like a truck

sinful heron
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LVolkner/VKris should actually work as a damage core tbh

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both drop evasion which amps volk's sync

grand trout
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You still have nemona

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She pairs well with sonia imo

sinful heron
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and kris has thunder wave so I might be able to take phoebe

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Yeah I think I'm gonna throw my usual Electric team of Sonia/Elesa/Nemona at Siebold

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because fuck him in particular and I can't use that team for Cheren

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now LVolkner/VKris needs a support. Ideally someone with gauge.

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and maybe SpAtk to top the pair of them off

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BP Clemont/BP Sophocles/filler for Acerola I think

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so that's:
Acerola: BP Clemont/BP Sophocles/BP Surge
Phoebe: LVolkner/VKris/support (gauge/spatk)
Siebold: Elesa/Nemona/Sonia
Aaron: Hau/Clemont/NC Bede
Cheren: NC Leaf/SS Hau/support (gauge)

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cheren I think I'mma just bring SS Morty

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fuck it all, bring the big guns

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but spatk/gauge is a difficult one

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and I can't just go SS Blue bc it kills the presync

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nvm I can regrid him for adrenaline, maybe that will work

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ah well here goes

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acerola first ofc

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then... idk

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siebold third

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probably aaron second

grand trout
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Why not Aaron first

sinful heron
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bc I don't think I'd get enough setup out for the nuke to do enough

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clemont's output relies on having some acc down, some speed down, his speed up, his spatk and critting

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so he has to mud slap into tm

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and even then he doesn't get the speed down for cakewalk to do anything

grand trout
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Alr you do you

sinful heron
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plus I can sort Sophocles' shit in about two rounds

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yeah acerola was pretty easy

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thankfully

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yeah uh

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clemont's nuke did about half

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and then everyone died

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yeah this team just doesn't have the kick it needs

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yeah there's just no oomph to it

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hau can DPS but Clemont's sync doesn't cover the lack of regular output

safe monolith
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Oh wow CS-Cheren is.. very strong

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I wonder if I can Poison stall them

sinful heron
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ok yeah no I'm up shit creek here

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I don't have a hope in hell with this team on these params

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and I don't have any postsync params bc the guide only goes to 2.5k

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any recommendations?

grand trout
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Have you upgraded clemont grid with the boost?

sinful heron
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yep

grand trout
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Do you have ss hilbert

sinful heron
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...I do actually

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might have to drag him in over hau?

grand trout
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Won't hurt to try

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He's a pseudo ontype unit iird

sinful heron
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Well, this ain't working so it's worth a shot

grand trout
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Plus he has metal sound

sinful heron
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yeah

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mine's only 1/5 so I was just gonna spam that for a bit

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first cycle at least

grand trout
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Wait do you have ss brendan

sinful heron
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no

grand trout
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Aw

sinful heron
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ok lmao hilbert made it work

grand trout
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Brendan?

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I thought you don't have him

sinful heron
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typo

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you said brendan and my head was there

grand trout
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Yay

sinful heron
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I may have to push him to 3/5

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does he get ripple effect on grid

grand trout
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Does bug buzz deal ontype damage

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Im not sure mine is 1/5 as well lmao

sinful heron
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bug buzz?

grand trout
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Wait not bug buzz

sinful heron
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he has techno blast

grand trout
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That one yesh

sinful heron
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and that changes output to fire/ice/electric/water if that would be SE

grand trout
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So it's counted as ontype

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?

sinful heron
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I think so?

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it sure as fuck wasn't getting reduced

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judging by the 40k hit the first one landed for

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and the fact it practically oneshotted the sides

grand trout
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Interesting

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Who was your nuke

sinful heron
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clemont still

grand trout
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Well 3 more to go

sinful heron
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I don't think hilbert's sync changes

grand trout
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Good luck lol

sinful heron
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yeah

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Siebold next

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but not too worried

grand trout
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I kinda am

sinful heron
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it's my main Electric team

grand trout
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He hits hard regardless

sinful heron
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Elesa/Nemona/Sonia

grand trout
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Pray he doesn't use surf

sinful heron
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this is the team I'd normally throw at him, and this time it's easier bc I remembered to turn on no terrain and drop str1/atk1

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Should be fine

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or at least no worse than normal

sinful heron
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anyway, back

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siebold was no worse than usual

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and now, phoebe

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this is the one I'm scared of

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bc I'm out of gold certs basically

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I might be able to scrounge a bit but idk if I can EX him or kris

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and uh

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they're gonna need it

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idk if the damage will be enough without

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...almost had it

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but the post-sync queue failed

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if I EX LVolkner I burn most all my gold certs but it would make this guaranteed.

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fuck it

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they're there to be used

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phew

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scraped it with the EX

marsh copper
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What am i doing wrong on Cheren ?
He is one shoting me with any moove at -6 spé / +6 SDef
He is Debuff like it is asked
I'm confused as fuck
Any advice is welcome ( i've been trying many teams since around 3 hours now, nothing works, the first hit after sync always one shot all the team, even under mass guard )

sinful heron
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you basically need to presync Cheren I think

marsh copper
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Tried but always in a situation where he kills me before because i don't tank enough

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its either too squishy pre sync, or too long post sync

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i don't understand tbf

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And everythign that could be a solution is either weak to fire, or steel, or flying, making it impossible

silver dirge
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Could you share your team & parameters?

marsh copper
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That gonna be hugely long but sure

sinful heron
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and there we go

undone ether
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Woohooo

sinful heron
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ss hau/nc leaf/ss morty pulled through in the end

undone ether
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I had a few ded pairs. Namely Iono, Sonia and Nemona .-.

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Otherwise pretty good special cs

sinful heron
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And that's that

grand trout
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Still happy hilbert worked

trail smelt
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He’s the stuff of nightmares when he first showed up since most of our electric back then was physical lol

lunar meadow
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Jeez...
Why is Siebold so insane

trail smelt
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They ain’t messing around with this Pasio CSMM lol, threw the 3 hardest straight at us

full mesa
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Jezzz I forgot about Genesect...

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Could have on type that stage instead of NCSerena...

sacred scroll
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This sh*t is actually difficult

trail smelt
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… oh dang

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Is Bianca’s Pasio stadium gonna be weak to Flying?

swift swan
sacred scroll
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Actually Joever lmao

swift swan
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Fighting... So, flying, psychic, and?

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What's one other weakness of it again

sacred scroll
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Fairy

trail smelt
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Wait fairy beats fighting?

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Huh

sacred scroll
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Yes

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Everyone knows a bodybuilder's worst nightmare is Tinkerbell

left storm
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Maybe

mortal dirge
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This CS is hard huh

sacred scroll
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Yeah it ain't a walk in a park

mortal dirge
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Yeah I noticed

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Can’t get past phoebe haha

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I see everyone using Pawmot and I don’t have that thing

marsh copper
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Don't hesitate to go off type if you can ! It actually help more than trying to fully " Electric " - it

sacred scroll
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I didn't use Pawmot

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Who are you struggling with

left storm
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Use BP Sophocles

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Underrated AF unit if gridded

swift swan
rich needle
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Das cuz most electric units are really good

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I’d argue regular elesa is fine enough

old orchid
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she is a solid pick

sacred scroll
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You really need to pay attention to stage parameters this week

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2 of them need to be Status'd or PB

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One of them says screw you to physical comps

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One of them needs Rebuff

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And then there's Acerola

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She is a good girl

dim marsh
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There's one thing that I've never fully understood

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How much the enemy stats go higher exactly by each round?

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To make more accurate calcs

old orchid
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you can use pomatools to calculate opponents' stats affected by parameters

dim marsh
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But they don't consider which round am I at

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Right?

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I've always assumed that their stats go higher just by doing more battles

old orchid
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unlike Battle Rally, the order of rounds don't affect the stats at all

dim marsh
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Wait

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So you're telling me that if I do r1 phoebe or r4 phoebe

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Nothing changes besides the parameter?

old orchid
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yes

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nothing

dim marsh
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I... assumed the stats were higher too, my life is a lie

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Thank you

old orchid
rotund maple
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Say, for this event cs, which e4 is hard and which e4 is nongimmicky?

undone ether
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i'd say Siebold is itchy with hiss AoE and AoE SPD Down.

fading cradle
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which rounds should i avoid aaron and siebold? literally having war flashbacks with siebold and people describe electric weak aaron as some incarnation from hell ☠️

rich needle
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depends on how op ur electric roster is

swift swan
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mmm avoid aaron r4 i suppose, attack order hurts

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r1 you need to be very careful though

undone ether
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Aaron spams attack orders a lot too ;_;

fading cradle
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off typing moment

swift swan
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candy hau, at least

rich needle
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oh its baby

fading cradle
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super epic off typing moment

rotund maple
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Is this the hardest event cs? RosaThink

undone ether
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depends on your roster.

rotund maple
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No limited electric at all? SophoKEK

old orchid
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Difficulty wise this might be the hardest

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Each stage has annoying gimmicks or simply hits too hard

fading cradle
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darn there goes my hopes of getting all those gems

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i probably have to off type all the stages

old orchid
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You can just beat everything with 0 point

rich needle
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the gem is 0 point

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first clear

old orchid
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Then you can improve after that

fading cradle
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eeeeeeeek

lunar meadow
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Most of the fights are easy just by recognizing sentry entry and wise entry, then bringing paralyze

But Siebold is a monster

fading cradle
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im not even gonna try master mode i still haven’t cleared an entire cs on mm yet

fading cradle
rich needle
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well

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not for presyncers i think

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they oneshot him anyway

sick inlet
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Just use all 14 Rats in the game

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Rodents

rich needle
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ratratratratratratratrat

sick inlet
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Ratratratrat

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They can't handle the mice

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Like elephants
Big strong
But fears the rats

fading cradle
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me when i dont have the good rats and all the rats i have are low level and can’t be raised to 5* atm

sick inlet
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As long as them rats aren't Marnie and Eggmon, they can do damage

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Heck even eggmon can do dmg

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Who am i kidding

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Marnie just sucks because her switching means you don't get to inflict much dmg every turn

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Her true tool is beat up after all Perocchi

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Power trip

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Beat up

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Whatever it's called

rotund maple
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BarryPogChamp ash rerun is sorely needed for us plebs...

fading cradle
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candy hau??? RosaThink

old orchid
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Do it

calm marsh
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Why not Girapi

manic kiln
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4* strike candy is the most popular candy, you have a few because you're new but after playing for awhile they will be left rotting in your bag, so yes use them if you need to use someone to beat contents

lunar meadow
sacred scroll
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You can't get copies of Hau as of right now

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So candy is the only option

sick inlet
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Only Rats, Volkner Raichu already used round 4

lunar meadow
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Oh I'm dumb.
Somehow I missed the Volkner Raichu there in the pic

hard notch
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Man fuck siebold

sacred scroll
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Congrats

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Also fk siebold

hard notch
fading cradle
old orchid
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3/5 for unlocking all tiles, only go to 5/5 if you have candied every 4* strike

mortal dirge
fading cradle
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tf why are these fights so beefy

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forced to off type almost everything and phoebe is already killing me on r1 ☠️☠️☠️

swift swan
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round 1 is difficult indeed, what have you been trying

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also remember phoebe has healthy advantage 4 which reduces her damage taken by 50% if not affected by a status condition

fading cradle
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a status condition huh…so like poison, burn, and all that fun stuff or

swift swan
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yes

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well paralysis is the easiest considering she's electric weak

fading cradle
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hmmmm who can inflict paralysis then. all my status condition folks afaik are allister and ss lysandre and i do want to save ss lysandre for a later stage if possible

swift swan
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i'll need to see your roster. but for electric types, bp clemont, elesa, lt surge, bp surge are pretty reliable

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you can also filter your pairs for who can set them

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though the in-game filter isn't perfect

fading cradle
hard notch
gleaming jolt
swift swan
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1/5 N under terrain can do work at least

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N + Volkner + attack and crit buffer should be able to handle some of the harder stages like phoebe or siebold

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hau and ss elesa can be another core

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you'll have to offtype the rest i'm afraid

gleaming jolt
fading cradle
rain turret
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can siebold be done offtype?

hard notch
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Yes but you gonna need to bring a hard hitter against him

swift swan
hard notch
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Also if you want bring somebody that can lower stats

fading cradle
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is there any recommendation on who to do for which round, lowkey struggling here HilbertHmm and also who to avoid on which rounds

swift swan
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be extremely careful on round 1

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either you rush to presync it (which would be harder than usual), or you have to tweak your params so you can eat the sync

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be careful with aaron and siebold round 4 since they use mainly physical attacks

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and that's about it

hard notch
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That was my mistake s💀

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Round 4 seibold is a no no

fading cradle
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yeah definitely avoiding aaron and siebold round 4 lol, kalos cs taught me enough

gleaming jolt
swift swan
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it wouldn't help much, the opponents will cycle through their TMs to reach sync

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either you rush with a nuker who can kill first sync, or you eat the sync

gleaming jolt
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Oo

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Rei Red time

rain turret
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I want to save sst red for cheren

rain turret
swift swan
swift swan
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or if your nc red's 3/5, a hail unit for multipliers

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though from my experience, you don't need sst red for cheren

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siebold has more gimmicks and is bulkier

fading cradle
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how do i fight an electric weak aaron on r3 HilbertHmm

mellow linden
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The main thing with Electric weak Aaron is to use special moves

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And if you can, to stop the Heal Order

fading cradle
lunar meadow
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The only way to "stop" heal order is with flinch/paralyze/confuse luck.

fading cradle
mortal dirge
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Almost mono type

wide adder
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Forgot to clear fairy last night bc I dozed off a lot. I assume it’s gone now. Rip

left storm
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Kanto Moment

Blue was 3500 points

left storm
fading cradle
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ultra yolo…

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this was cheren’s stage too

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bro didn’t even get time do one sync move 😭

cold tusk
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What bs is this Ns piercing blow doesnt apply to sync?

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Bolt strike does more than sync

mellow linden
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Piercing Blows applies to Sync as well. More than likely one of 2 things happened:

  1. The Sync didn’t crit.
  2. Your N isn’t gridded for Sync nuke, be it due to grid setup or due to his Move Level being too low to access his Sync tiles
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Perhaps it’s even both

safe monolith
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it says scroll down the pins for 3k presets but nothing is there

tired sleet
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You can’t see this?

covert badger
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off type 15k LarryDead

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round 1 and 2 were so rough for me lmao

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took so long to find setups that worked

sacred scroll
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You're a god

loud stratus
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The rounds in this special cs are a bit tricky. Cheren died immediately to nc blue and ash tho.

sacred scroll
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Yeah they checked him

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I used the same + SSHau

safe monolith
sacred scroll
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ET stonks

loud stratus
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It was fun trying to clear with zeblesa and base hau

sacred scroll
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Personally Elesa worked extremely well for me

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Like, I didn't remember her being this good

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Hau was trickier to use bc nuke (also I did it vs Aaron so fk him too)

loud stratus
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I was surprised that my final sync with hau did over 60% against aaron. His syncs in previous runs were 20% at best.

sacred scroll
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Did you support sync before Hau sync?

loud stratus
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Yeah. I think he just didn't crit. Not sure why it's such a big jump tho

mellow linden
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Lack of crit + perma Light Screen will do that

loud stratus
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RosaThink That makes sense. I was thinking 1.5×1.2 still wouldn't double the damage. Forgot about the param.

tired sleet
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If he used Defend Order, it’d also decrease damage by even more compared to a crit

loud stratus
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Dang crit is really important

sacred scroll
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It really is

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Not to mention you're also missing out on CS2

swift swan
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crit bypasses positive defensive buffs as well as damage reduction screens, not to mention it's a whole 1.5x multiplier (before CS2). you always want to crit

main crow
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SS Piers so fun

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If I had a Colress
JUST A SINGLE ONE
Siebold would've been so so much easier

left storm
sacred scroll
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Whoever made SS Piers HUD doesn't believe in 2 lines

dark osprey
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How much does the "use special attacks" parameter enhance sp atk?

main lake
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right how many stages should i ontype (and which ones would be best to ontype)

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clemont and hau nuking i guess ?

old orchid
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Sonia + Volkner + N can beat Siebold

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your OG Elesa is only 1/5?

main lake
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yeah 😅 i only got her around when we got the free 100 pulls (though from normal unova tickets)

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(and i still don't have Hilda or glacia... only got kukui when pulling NC Cheren)

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nc blue with clemont is one of my go to electric teams

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or better with hau ?

old orchid
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NC Blue can carry anyone, even Petey

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save him for Cheren, he has the same gimmick as Nate from Fairy CS

main lake
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ahhh i see

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gotcha

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and then i can just bust out the unova NCs or something for the rest

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cool ive got a better idea of what to do now

old orchid
left storm
wicked junco
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This must be the easiest 3k mono CS so far, right?

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Electric is loaded

trail smelt
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If you pull a lot of electric limited units yes

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If not you’re screwed

dark osprey
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True. It's probably harder than the others in terms of 3 of the elite 4s having bulky HP. A sentry entry, 1 wise entry and a couple healthy advantages here and there

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Fire probably had similar but not as much

sacred scroll
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FTFY

manic kiln
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you need to have a good roster to mono, but just ontype is doable with f2p options

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f2p clear, Siebold is probably the most annoying
cheren is like the easiest GladionSip just realized I didn't max Volkner's crit VolknerDed

oblique karma
wicked junco
trail smelt
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Hell no lol

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Acerola is the easiest

wicked junco
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What was Phoebe gimmick again?

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Just para?

swift swan
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yes

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also high base HP

oblique karma
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Nah I'm trying to do her first parameter

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Low sp def

swift swan
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first parameter in the electric CS is half sync, no?

hard notch
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Siebold could probably beat cheren

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With how tanky he is

left storm
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Not specifically para

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You can poison her and it'll work

wicked junco
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But yeah any will work for healthy advantage

left storm
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Yeah but it doesn't change much

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Better to run a good unit with poison Vs her than a shit one with para

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Since you're tight on electric units in this pasio cs

wicked junco
oblique karma
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Hmm, then I think it's the gradual healing parameter making it harder for me

swift swan
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why?

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if your nuke/DPS is strong enough, then gradual healing shouldn't matter

crimson wolf
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I messed around on phoebe with this team. So special defense is required but Elesa didn’t have a good damage

oblique karma
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But idk, my damage isn't doing as much as I want

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And yes I change based on if moves are physical or special

swift swan
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did she crit and does she have her nuke grid?

swift swan
crimson wolf
swift swan
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ah, you should paralyze from the get-go

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though if this is r1 that would be tough

crimson wolf
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So should I choose a different one?

swift swan
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ah yeah that makes sense

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R1 you either have to presync it or adjust your params to eat the sync

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elesa can probably presync phoebe r1 given the right team though

crimson wolf
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I have Holiday viola. Can that work?

swift swan
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elesa herself should be fine to apply paralysis by herself

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another thing you can try is to attempt r1 not against phoebe. presyncing a stage with 28k base HP is tough

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i would recommend acerola r1 considering she has the least bulk, so you have the best chances of killing her before she syncs

old orchid
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Or Aaron so he is forced to heal early, but he buffs crit post sync so it might be another issue

swift swan
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okay i don't think elesa can kill phoebe first sync aha

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she's too bulky

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at least, not without SEUP next maybe

crimson wolf
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So acerola, elesa and eilo?

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Or N?

swift swan
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N can be in a separate team

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Elesa can go up against Phoebe, just not r1

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can i see your other electric pairs

crimson wolf
manic kiln
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Use ash for the halfsync round tbh, and against aaron

crimson wolf
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So just skip phobe and go against Aaron?

swift swan
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Sure, try Ash vs Aaron

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Phoebe can be done in other rounds

dim marsh
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How does the parameter from R3 work exactly? Does it double the sync buff effect?

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Just for more precise calcs

calm marsh
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Lillie sets Ghost Zone for Phoebe

left storm
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5% moment

swift swan
crimson wolf
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Ok I got done with Aaron. The next round is whenever my units fainted, it lowered status.

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Was going back to phoebe for it.

swift swan
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this round param should be pretty free

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you can ignore it because it'll only lower your stats by -1 anyway

lunar meadow
blazing peak
left storm
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Don't have to imagine, but yea

oblique karma
tired sleet
civic crater
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I am over Siebold lol. Poor N can’t manage

civic crater
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N did manage eventually. Just took putting water guard on the main tank lol

dark osprey
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Realised the power of flinching this special CS. Surf flinch, bleakwind flinch, shadow ball flinch. It does go a long way

swift swan
swift swan
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There's your problem

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What move level is ss steven?

oblique karma
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3/5

swift swan
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He should offtype just fine with anni may

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Round 1 right?

oblique karma
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Yeah

swift swan
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Make sure you have someone to put status on Phoebe

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Set terrain, let steven nuke, profit

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Though doing her r1 is arguably the hardest because she's very bulky

oblique karma
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Idk now I'm changing the team. Saw a video with Rika, Sophocles with Golem, and NC serena

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But that didn't work either...idk drifbloom a tank

old orchid
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what params did you use?

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also use Protect right before Phoebe's sync

swift swan
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i strongly recommend not doing phoebe r1 then if it's too hard

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she's very bulky

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acerola's much easier

tulip python
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With this roster, what would be the pseudo ideal on type team setup for the stadium?

old orchid
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Save NC Blue for Cheren

tulip python
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Yeah was intending to save red chu and NC Blue for last boss since they’re the best of my electrics

dark osprey
old orchid
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NC Blue can carry weak pairs

swift swan
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NC Blue with any electric damage dealer should work fine on Cheren. Outside of needing rebuff Cheren doesn't have any annoying gimmick

old orchid
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He just hits hard

swift swan
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Use SST Red on one of the E4s that are very bulky

tulip python
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Is there a suggested order?

Looks like Acerola would be useful for RedChu, Aaron would be for Electric Tapu, N for Phoboe, Luxray for Siebold?

old orchid
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save Sonia for Siebold whose stage was designed for her

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i suggest using N + terrain on Siebold, because Sonia can carry him

tulip python
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Gtk

old orchid
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Acerola is the easiest stage, don't waste Redchu on her

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Phoebe, Aaron and Siebold have tons of HP, i suggest using him on Phoebe

tulip python
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Gotcha

swift swan
dark osprey
sacred scroll
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Attack Order more like Death Order

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💀

dark osprey
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Siebold too with that razor shell so guess Phoebe 4th round is a good option

onyx ice
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Used my sst red for siebold, it covered for paralysis and didn't cared much about his bulk

oblique karma
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managed to do it

rose ermine
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I'm about to serve a beatdown against 15k

marsh copper
sacred scroll
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What did Nate do to you to deserve getting beat up

versed meteor
sacred scroll
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Sentry Entry or Sentry Entry x2 though?

keen jasper
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SE x2

wild scaffold
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This Special CS was something

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Managed to be on type

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15K

sacred scroll
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That Siebold team is wild

wild scaffold
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It looks overkill but nah

manic kiln
heavy quail
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Can I even attempt the special stadium if these are my only electric types?

mellow linden
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Yes. You aren’t required to on-type all stages

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You can off-type or Poison stall every stage, even

heavy quail
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Oh awesome! Didn't know what the difficulty ceiling was

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Is there an info graphic for what bonuses have the least impact? Like to maximize points without having a huge gap in difficulty?

mellow linden
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We have parameter recommendations in the pins

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If you’re on mobile it’s Channel Settings -> Pinned Messages

heavy quail
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Thank you!

lyric gyro
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This is my team.

sharp willow
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Okay, so

I would probably recommend trying out a second fighting type damage dealer over using Elio, or working with Lucian instead. Lucian's special defense debuffing is slower but works AOE, while a second fighting type DPS would just help with getting the enemies dead quickly

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If you have Wally, he'd be a good choice to work with Solgaleo because both raise their accuracy significantly to work against Lorelei's evasion buffs

lyric gyro
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I've got Wally.

sharp willow
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The other thing I'm considering is that your parameters might not be ideal

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But ill try to work a run with Wally/Solgaleo/Glacia for you real quick.

lyric gyro
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GretaCringe It probably is because of my parameters.

sharp willow
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yeah i would not run that parameter set personally

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the 50 point special reduction is a free pick, it's bypassed by criticals entirely, support 3x damage is not the best idea with that much HP, and if you're running a fighting type damage dealer you can grab standard reduction

rose ermine
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Wth I didn't even get to nuke

sharp willow
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sst red moment

lyric gyro
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Xd

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So the plan is to replace 3x Support with 3x Tech since I'd replace my Tech with a damage dealer. And add Special Dmg. Reflection.

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Is that good?

sharp willow
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probably would work ok

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i would still recommend dropping the HP parameters for something else as well

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probably replace HP Up 4 with standard reduction and special reduction with physical

lyric gyro
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Okay.

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Here's my Fighting-type roster.

sharp willow
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with Solgaleo on the team, I'd recommend Wally since they'd both be using Special Fighting DPS

If you're ok with changing out Solgaleo for someone else, Bea and Riley should be a fairly good combo

lyric gyro
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Alright. I'll try that out!

weak sleet
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Can pairs like neo champion red, Adaman, and irida clear the special stadium?

tired sleet
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Certainly

weak sleet
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Round 4 I was thinking of battling acerola

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No clue who to use though

tired sleet
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Aaron has high Phys def (so don’t use Adaman) and Acerola has high SpDef (so don’t use NCRed/Irida) I suppose

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And yeah, R4 would be good against Acerola, since she has lower Phys Def and doesn’t use Physical moves

weak sleet
#

Thanks! That's super helpful

heavy plinth
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Any general suggestions on which of this lot (and also a 1/5 150 SS Hilbert) I should use on which fights in special stadium? The less I have to use my brain on things today the better lol

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Well, which of them I should use aside from the obvious non damage dealers lol

lyric gyro
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You picked units that can use Electric-type moves, right?

heavy plinth
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Then filtered for physical and special only, hence the lack of Calem and Colress

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But yeah

lyric gyro
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Volker is a Para and flincher, while Sonia is like Skyla. You have good units EX'd.

heavy plinth
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Oh and this is only base 5-stars since anything below that is kinda a given soooo y'knowwwwww

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I'm aware of how they work, I just want suggestions on which ones to use in which fights in the current Pasio Special Stadium so I have to think less about it haha

undone ether
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Ash could be used everywhere tbh. So if you're having trouble, put Ash for that one battle you can't clear for some reason with other units.
NC Blue is definitely for VS Cheren.
SST Red is better for VS Siebold.

lyric gyro
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Uhmm... my idea is rbg (random bullshit go) so just go wild. You have extremely good units.

heavy plinth
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Fair enough lol

crimson wolf
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Ok I got two out of four elite four. I still have to take down phobe. I test Elisa -‘d it still didn’t have good damage. I keep making some T&E and the only possible I did use. Was Volkner. I use the electric Terrence field and then use all the attack buffs. It did some good damage and it took phobe down. But I have to do the other sides. And that recoil. I hated when both Elisa and volkner can just one recoil kill after one use.

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This is what I been using

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I can use skyla because volkner and skyla can do flinches but it’s based on luck

old orchid
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which stage is this?

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also don't bother using Wild Charge on Volkner

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Thunder Fang is way better because Volkner is an utility pair and the move is good at disrupting

crimson wolf
old orchid
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ik, but who is the main opponent?

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ah Phoebe, mb

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for her, you must inflict a status condition on her, so Volkner is a great pick

mellow linden
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Get her Standfast 9 tile at minimum, if you can pick up a Standfast 5 tile without sacrificing any important modifiers then even better

crimson wolf
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Where can i get standfast?

old orchid
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sync grid

mellow linden
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Ideally you wanna pick up, at minimum, for Elesa + Zebstrika:

  • Standfast 9
  • Ramming Speed
  • Inertia
  • Brawn Sync
rich needle
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Does cheren have a gimmick

undone ether
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NC Cheren has a damage reduction if they dont have a Negative Status Change.

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outside of that, he can drop your tank's speed by 1 (30% chance)
Hostile Environment 10 for his Heat Wave. But you usually dont get him to use it.

old orchid
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Cheren's Bleakwind Storm hits pretty hard so be careful

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Most Electric types don't have a reliable status change so plan your team well

undone ether
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aight this should do it for the next 3 weeks o/

clever lynx
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I need a little help for 3k Cheren CS this time around… I already did Phoebe and Aaron using poison stall and NC Marnie but I can’t beat Siebold

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I can use off types too but here are some of my electric types

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Note: I haven’t tried N for Siebold because I wasn’t sure if I should save him for Cheren or even AcerolaAcerolaPensive

tired sleet
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Acerola has high SpDef so if you were to use SS or OGHau, it’d either be vs Siebold or Cheren
Keep in mind that Siebold takes 40% less damage when not Status Conditioned, and Cheren takes 40% less damage when not Negative Status Changed (which can be bypassed by N’s passive)

(Status Conditions and Changes #1092823068256251945 message )

clever lynx
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Okay so I’ll probably use N + Volkner for Cheren with a good support

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For Siebold maybe I’ll use Sonia with OG Hau but I’m not sure about for Acerola

tired sleet
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Could try Elesa or Marnie

clever lynx
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SS Elesa?

tired sleet
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Zebstrika

clever lynx
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I currently don’t have a grid on Zebstrika Elesa so I might have to try it with Marnie

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If it’s better to use physical attacks I could maybe even try it with an off type RosaThink

tired sleet
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Acerola’s SpDef boost is less than 2x so you would get more value out of an Electric Type Special DD, but if the offtype damage is that great you could go ahead

clever lynx
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I just tried Siebold a few times with Sonia OGHau and SSHau / SSBlue and still couldn’t beat it

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I might just put it down to 2.5k and call it a day WhitneySad

tired sleet
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Question: why are you using Sonia with SS Hau? Do you lack Special/Crit supports?

clever lynx
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Um I’m not sure. I thought the electric terrain for OGHau + someone else dealing extra damage could help beat him faster

tired sleet
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SSHau + Hau is a good combo, I just think that there are a lot of other options besides Sonia

clever lynx
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Ah I thought that she was good for lowering his defense

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I thought it was good to lower his defense but maybe I’ll try it with a different support

tired sleet
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Hau uses Special Attacks so Sonia’s Physical defence lowering wouldn’t help

clever lynx
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Ohhhh I see I’ll try it again a few times and see if I can beat it

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Thank you for helping!

wicked pebble
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To check, how does this look for normal CS?

full mesa
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It's Kanto. As long as you use a decent support with an on type attacker you're good.

wicked pebble
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this a good roster for the electric CS?

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obviously, I know ASh and Redchu are good for it. XD

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Just curious on thr others since, well, I got off of pairs like Elesa and Volkner for a reason.

keen jasper
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Oops

trail smelt
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Any last minute finishers? Hope not lol

swift swan
undone ether
trail smelt
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Same haha

swift swan
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updated

undone ether
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Rika dead though :<

trail smelt
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Nuke central next week haha

grand trout
sacred scroll
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Paulo do be hanging onto a prayer

final sigil
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Which ones should I use for the current League? (Now it's Kanto League)

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In case anyone having problems seeing the maxed ones underneath, those are Kiawe/Marowak, Solgaleo, Giovanni/Mewtwo, Bianca/Musharna, Cheren/Stoutland, SS Elesa/Rotom and Sycamore/Xerneas

swift swan
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doing hard mode i assume?

final sigil
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I'm stuck at ONE of the elite fours due to lack of sufficient sync pairs

swift swan
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hmm, are these filtered to 5*s only

final sigil
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That's all I have

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By now*

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Still grinding for another 10x on Bianca

swift swan
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Well, it's Kanto hard mode, let's see what we can do
Lorelei: Hau (he should be a free story unit), SS Elesa, throwaway unit (can use Lillie for accuracy buffs)
Bruno: Silver (get him to 5/5 and 20/20 using his custom resources, should be in the Legendary Adventures shop), Blaine, Shauna
Agatha: Giovanni (spam shadow ball), Roxanne, any unit
Lance: Hop (another free unit that you get from Legendary Adventures, max him out), Solgaleo, Kukui
Blue: Roark (preferably gridded for nuke), Nanu, Falkner

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the units don't need to be gridded, but preferably level 100-120

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your account is very new so it's normal to struggle a bit, if you have any troubles don't hesitate asking here

final sigil
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I uhh

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I made a rookie mistake

grand trout
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Where's your cyrus

final sigil
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Silver upgrades...

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Gone

final sigil
grand trout
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Ah

fading cradle
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🥲 guess it’s turning to the regular upgrades now

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cyrus is a pretty good damage dealer, might wanna grid him though since if your hydro pump misses, it can get pretty annoying (personal experience)

final sigil
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So what to do with Silver?

fading cradle
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i guess to increase silver’s potential, you can only rely on the regular 5 star power ups

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but it’s better to show some 4 star and 3 star sync pairs. it’s important not to underestimate those pairs as they can be very helpful too

final sigil
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But anyway

final sigil
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I've noted this, and I'll get them all at the ready

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As soon as possible

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Again, thank you very much

swift swan
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Nothing you can do about his iGoldPowerUp unfortunately, you'll have to use regular ones if you want to EX him

hard notch
left storm
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Max hp Aaron delete challenge of this month

Considering the two damage dealers are 1/5, pretty great

lunar meadow
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Aaron isn't the fight this week...

We are in Kanto

sharp willow
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Aaron is part of the special stadium currently live.

lunar meadow
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Oh ya, that's still going...

I usually just clear the day events open lol

left storm
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Some people don't have the time and actually take their time to enjoy content

sacred scroll
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Shauntal SLAPS

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Like wtf she's so good

undone ether
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did she get her ex yet?

sacred scroll
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Yeah

undone ether
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kewl

sacred scroll
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She ramps very quickly damage wise

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RS + Gritty 5

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Her nuke is also respectable

undone ether
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Brain Sync 5 + 4 sync nodes o/

sacred scroll
final sigil
swift swan
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I mean sure

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he's a good EX though

final sigil
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I mean, I gotta wait for the corresponding event to be able to EX him just like the rest of the legendaries, right

swift swan
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you can't EX him right now anyway, his custom iChampSpirit is event-locked

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but if you ever want to EX him, you'll have to use your own iGoldPowerUp

final sigil
final sigil
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I'm still levelling up all the said sync pairs

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I'm nowhere near close to ready but I'll get there soon

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Oh yeah

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What's gonna happen when I beat the League?

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Other than unlocking all locked features and stuff

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What do I get?

manic kiln
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EX materials, master mode gives more than hard mode

crimson wolf
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What else I can try? So far I have N and my trainer OC for the next champion pasio

swift swan
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Elesa if at higher move levels

crimson wolf
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Ok the only support I can trust was SS Mina. But siebold can just one hit kill

crimson wolf
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Ok I’m about to fight Cheren. If you mentioned Hau, I used him but I have SS Hau. Can I use that?

swift swan
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sure

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remember cheren needs negative status change

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trap, confusion, rebuff

crimson wolf
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Ok this is what I have left.

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I just check the reply and they been trying to down buff his status. Not only that, they use electric rebuff and I don’t have that.

manic kiln
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you don't need electric rebuff, any kind of rebuff is fine

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just to shut down his passive

sacred scroll
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Doesn't even have to be rebuff, any status change is fine

proud axle
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...Any negative status change. Can't shut this one off by just picking the regen parameter like we can for Acute Senses WEEZing

sacred scroll
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Good point

final sigil
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Can you help me with Bruno?

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Only Silver is available, apparently I have used Blaine the other day

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Can't have Blaine anymore sadly

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And I ran out of sync orbs

final sigil
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Just Silver and Shauna, that means I need a backup for Blaine

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I don't have any other Techs with Sunny Day other than Blaine, sadly

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But one of the opponents did has Sunny Day and used it once per battle so I think it's good

graceful oriole
final sigil
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Interactions or expeditions?

graceful oriole
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interactions

final sigil
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Not all guests, though

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I'm just doing Rosa the entire time

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No personal reasons...

final sigil
graceful oriole
final sigil
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Barely got anything good

final sigil
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Pairs?

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Others?

graceful oriole
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the items one

final sigil
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You mean others

graceful oriole
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yes

final sigil
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Which one?

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Crystals or lodge stones

graceful oriole
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there should be buyable orbes in one of them

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for lodge stones

final sigil
graceful oriole
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btw you can do /lodge to get the super exciting interactions of the character you are lodging @final sigil

final sigil
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And trust me, 1k orb isn't enough

graceful oriole
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are you gridding even the 1/5 stat tiles?

final sigil
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Just to open the next tiles

graceful oriole
#

are your legends gridded

final sigil
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Except Silver

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And I haven't unlocked all legends

graceful oriole
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@final sigil is roark gridded

cinder summitBOT
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final sigil
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But I sure will grid him for nuke

graceful oriole
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@final sigil what cs enemies have you done so far

final sigil
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What's CS?

graceful oriole
final sigil
graceful oriole
final sigil
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Spamming speed, def and sp def lowering moves

graceful oriole
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what are you using? Shauna silver and?

final sigil
graceful oriole
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pretty sure bruno is grass weak

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so spam solar beam under sun

final sigil
final sigil
graceful oriole
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oh wait misremembering. My bad

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do you have ss elesa available. Or darach ?@final sigil

graceful oriole
# final sigil Darach

try Shauna, silver and darach. Keep on spamming feather dance with him until enemy is at -6 atk

swift swan
sick inlet
#

I have seen sync orbs being scarce before

History repeats itself

keen silo
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this guy has 40k hp or something with just strength params. nuts

final sigil
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Is there a way to re-convert pair specific sync orbs to co-op sync orbs?

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*also pls turn on ping when replying me

keen silo
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Nvm siebold is cancer

swift swan
final sigil
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That's kinda bad, we could take orbs from unimportant pairs and use it for another good one

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It should've been a feature

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Don't you think?

keen silo
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have to burn ss cynthia just for siebold

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absolutely diabolical

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nvm poor planning

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cheren became too easy

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i needed to burn sonia round 3 but i think i could swap ash and roxie/piers lmao

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r4 was dps struggle and r5 was too much dps

sick inlet
#

Does blue have Sync Cure this week?

graceful oriole
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if you aren't sure about what you don't need the help channels are open

honest magnet
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@graceful oriole again, i know i could have easily used someone like Allister, but that wasn't the point of that decision

You can criticise my other choices all you want but i'll be defending her

graceful oriole
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I asked you to come here to help you with 3k on each fight since you could only get 2.5k on four tho. I already told you why acerola wasn't good so I feel like I have no need to repeat the reasons@honest magnet

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so for Lance, what investment is your Janine at

honest magnet
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non existent

graceful oriole
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just get her to 4 star 120 if you don't have the resources

honest magnet
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well i don't even have resources for that

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what now

graceful oriole
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we will be doing Lance how we did it back in my day

graceful oriole
honest magnet
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130

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but i don't have potential upgrades

graceful oriole
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just 120 is enough

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do you have a team defense buffer like lana@honest magnet

honest magnet
graceful oriole
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one minute lemme check something

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ok use glad,janine and sycamore. Pick up all non sync buff, attack, power up on hit and damage resistance and sync countdown params until you hit 3k@honest magnet

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oh and also avoid the stat up and down params if you hit 3k without them

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and the no stat down and no status param

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The strategy will be to toxic stall

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poison fang with glad(reset if you don't poison first try), spam, dazzling gleam until you sync with sycamore and spam venom drench with janine

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(syca should be target 1 btw)

graceful oriole
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spam moonblast with xern unless you are below half then click horn leech

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and continue using venom drench with Janine until she either faints or enemy is at -6 stats

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eventually the enemies should die to poison

graceful oriole
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@honest magnet if you still can't clear after trying this then send me a pic of your params

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this battle should be round 1

honest magnet
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i see

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tho ngl i don't really wanna fight CS today

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i'll try this later this week

graceful oriole
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ok

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this is how we did Lance back in my day

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when good fairies were rare

dark osprey
swift swan
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It's still a damage reduction passive so piercing blows will still bypass it

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If the passive says No Negative Status Change: Def & Sp Def x3 (or something), then piercing blows can't ignore it

dark osprey
final sigil
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I'm having troubles with Bruno

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And my god resources can be spent so quickly in this game

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My nuke team for Blue is ready, it's just Bruno left

dark osprey
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What's your team currently and do you have any on type options?

final sigil
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At first i used Bertha instead of Cheren to trap them one by one and stealth rock them but it's not effective enough

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They spam speed-reducing moves on her which significantly slows down my move gauge charge rate

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She can survive but it's like Bruno got infinite buff moves which is cheating and frustrating

dark osprey
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Maybe you could slot in a defense buffer instead of cheren. I guess you don't have Skyla available

bitter peak
#

Ok, I'll ask here, is there any doc that provides detailed informations about special parameters? I'm interested in multipliers, how do "stronger" stat debuffs work etc., but I can't find anything

fading cradle
# final sigil Silver, Shauna, and basic Cheren

since you have basic cheren, im assuming you passed the point where you should have basic skyla. she makes a good defense and speed buffer. basic cheren just sucks in general so he’s not really a recommendation

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do you have courtney? i used her and bertha for bruno since her ground wish strengthens bertha’s ground attacks

swift swan
old orchid
#

Pomatools did explain about them in their twitter account

sleek tundra
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Can someone guide me to beat her?

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These are my sync pair ans who to focus for champion battle? Thanks in advance

silver dirge
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Which pairs have you already used?

sleek tundra
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Wait

grand steppe
#

Looks fresh. Is this your first time doing stadium?

sleek tundra
grand steppe
#

(I sense this person didn’t follow legexchange)

sleek tundra
sleek tundra
silver dirge
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Ah oof

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Considering it's hard mode you've got some leeway here, NC Bianca isn't used yet

sleek tundra
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Im just looking for guide to which one should i focus first to not waste materials on early game

sleek tundra
silver dirge
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Alrighty you could put Bea with her, and a decent support. That'll do for the champion round

grand steppe
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So the reason you’re probably failing is because Lorelei raises her evasion. You can counter this by raising accuracy

silver dirge
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Also if you haven't already, you may want to give #1010307000346878062 a quick read since it covers a lot of basics, triple queue & teambuilding are the two important ones

sleek tundra
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I will thanks

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Honestly i don't know how to build teams yet i just put them up together and keep trying

silver dirge
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It's alright you'll get there

sleek tundra
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But it's a good start? Or should i reroll?

grand steppe
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Did you exchange all of the powerups from Legendary Adventures?

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You have a decent number of 5 stars, I’d say it’s worth keeping. But I’m curious if you really traded away 80 custom power-ups for 16 generic ones.

sleek tundra
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I used it on them

grand steppe
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Oh if they’re 20/20 then you’re fine.

sleek tundra
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But but I don't know where to get champion spirit for them have ex

fading cradle
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they’re locked behind events

sleek tundra
grand steppe
#

Okay so for Lorelei why don’t you use Clemont & Heliolisk. He’s electric and has piercing gaze for. Lorelei’s evasion

sleek tundra
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And for support?

grand steppe
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Cheryl or Roxanne

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Cheryl is with Blissey (normal type)

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Roxanne is with Probopass (Rock)

sleek tundra
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Thanks.. lvl125 is fine or just 110?

grand steppe
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Try at 100 or 110 first no need to invest higher unless it fails

sleek tundra
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Max theme? And sync grid?

grand steppe
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No

sleek tundra
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Okay ill try thanks

grand steppe
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As an early player don’t worry about that

sleek tundra
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Thanks.. really happy i join this group..

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Ill try it now brb

grand steppe
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3rd slot could be Phoebe to buff crit. I’d probably just use Bianca for last round with 2 other types you need for the medal

sleek tundra
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Almost but i can finish it now thanks

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Op heal

grand steppe
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Try changing Cheryl for Phoebe

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That way your electreoweb will crit

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Make sure to use Activate right before using Clemont’s sync move

sleek tundra
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Thanks.. finally did it

grand steppe
sleek tundra
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The last battle was easy as bianca was maxed out already

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Thank you again..

grand steppe
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Okay hopefully you did more than 9 types for the medal

sleek tundra
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I mean use 10 element

grand steppe
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Okay that’s good.

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18 types means at least 9 minimum, so you can unlock the harder mode next week

sleek tundra
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It's 12 sorry

grand steppe
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Even better

sleek tundra
hidden ore
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Good team?
I’m saving my two other rats and maybe NC Blue for Cheren

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This is r2 Siebold

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I might replace Cynthia, but I don’t know

fiery canopy
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aaron is being Mad annoying even w paralysis, any tips

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ughh should i just sleep him?

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ok that worked wew

fiery canopy
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oh and now siebold is giving me shit 😑

hidden ore
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Same, don’t know what to use against him

fiery canopy
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oh nvm i got him LOL
just reset if he uses Surf tbh

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my team was ss erika/adaman/ss acerola

hidden ore
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Round 2 and 3k mm params?

trail smelt
fiery canopy
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wait really?
huh
well i had to use sleep anyway

trail smelt
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Yeah only Siebold and Phoebe have Healthy Advantage which reduces damage when not under status effects like sleep or paralysis

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Aaron’s gimmick is Sentry Entry x2 as well as his annoying Heal Order

sacred scroll
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I find Aaron to be particularly good in Round 1

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He is forced to use his Heal Order early

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That said you need to dispatch him quickly after or else he'll start throwing Murder Attack Orders

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That N team is super fragile would not recommend

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Aaron too

final sigil
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Unfortunately, i don't know why but the game freezed during the loading screen after defeating Blue, therefore I cannot screenshot the hall of fame cutscene

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But...

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Best screenshot I can give

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And I want to thank you so much to @swift swan

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For suggesting me all the teams I used

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Sure, I changed some, but most of them are Nov's suggestions

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I couldn't have achieved this without your help, Nov 🙏

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And good luck to everyone else who's dealing with the Champion Stadium right now 💪

swift swan
sacred scroll
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Excellent work JuanClapping

hidden ore
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Anyone willing to help with r2 Siebold?

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I have rats, but I’m willing to use them against Cheren

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This is r2 Siebold

mellow linden
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A 1/5 N needs a lot more help from teammates, so I’d recommend running an Electric Terrain setter and an Attack + crit Support for teammates. N ignores Healthy Advantage, so Paralysis is less desired when using him

hidden ore
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I’ve ex’d Volkner

sacred scroll
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You should aim to sync nuke before siebold syncs and roll for no surf

hidden ore
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5/5 Volkner

mellow linden
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Whether the terrain setter is EX doesn’t matter

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Volkner’s a good E-Terrain setter right out of the box

sacred scroll
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An ideal support is someone who can max N's attack and crit asap

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So N can start bolt striking asap

hidden ore
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Can’t figure out parameters for this, avoid adding strenght plus no stat red?

mellow linden
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Depends on what points you’re going for (+ what 2.5k preset you’re using as a base and your team if you’re aiming for 3k)

hidden ore
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3k

sacred scroll
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could use hilbert and grid volkner as tank/fish for flinch or para to buy turns

mellow linden
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Sonia or Hilbert would be the best Support for this instance, yeah

sacred scroll
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I really do question if fast and furious is the way to go

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1/5 N is not amazing for fast out of box DMG

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So maybe I'm thinking NCRosa to stack PMUN for an omega bolt strike after sync

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Regardless do try

swift swan
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Siebold is very bulky so I would take as few strength as possible

hidden ore
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Hmm str 1? Or no non red strenght?

versed meteor
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You don't do Siebold r4 right?

swift swan
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I would avoid siebold r4 yeah

swift swan
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Also, i would avoid stacking too much strength as it adds too much bulk on top of siebold's high base HP

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Don't be afraid to pick up attack params

hidden ore
cedar bronze
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which round/trainers are no-nos

sacred scroll
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aaron round 4

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attack death order

fading cradle
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phoebe round 1 also kinda hurts ngl

cedar bronze
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aaron is being annoying but idk thats just him

fading cradle
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personally i recommend avoiding r1 phoebe and r4 siebold and aaron

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if you do aaron r1, he’s forced to use heal order pretty early