#Champion Stadium
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this question would be better suited for #poma-questions
But it depends on what you want to do with him, if you know you are going to eventually 3/5 him or want the extra role for BR it is pretty harmless to cake him then but if you have other options that may want it more he may be a lower priority (For example a striker that is already 3/5)
I mean does this really count, it’s like saying it’s too easy to do 4k cuz Sslyra can solo

Not rly a fair metric
It's the flaw of champion stadium really
If they do not get resilience
It's free real estate
Not really a flaw
They cleared the stage so they did in fact do 4k
If you find it too easy you don’t have to flinch sleep lock
This is what let’s underdeveloped rosters do it
it really is not that deep lel
Still
That clip is meant to demonstrate that
4k is not too big of a hassle if you got the units and strats for it
For f2p it's too much i agree
Blud saying if you have sslyra 4k is easy is a horrific metric for content that’s supposed to be done weekly
Like yes you caaaaan do this with Serena
And elio
But it’s significantly more tedious
Idk i just want more rewards 
I get that but cs being brought up 1k is not the way
I mean bringing it up 1k would 100% get new stuff to play around with alongside that
And we can always rely on good ol' sleep
sprint + field x3 damage 
Oh yeah
I forgot how they
Literally do not give a damn

4.2k would be easier than ever 
Like damnnnn
Field sprint pairs op

But then role cakes
Make them count as strike tech and sup
Nerfing them in a way

(i know it's not i am just kidding around)

drop def 3 and take power on hit 2
omni def +3
you’re making him too bulky
I can remove another stat
Or i remove power on hit 1 also?
Yes when i add power on hit 2 it increase 200 points so it is 3100
Which other parameter to remove?
oh probably max hp too
Bird up 🐦⬛
(Not good enough for #1010274591601598555 )
what should i do if I just unlocked master mode. Dont know how to proceed
If you're new to Master Mode I'd recommend starting with 850 points per stage (4250 total), or 1500 points per stage (7500 total) if you want more of a challenge. We have parameter recommendations in the pins
ok, thank you 
Where’s the appropriate place to brainstorm for limited runs?
What do you mean limited
Probably those theme runs people do like non limited only or using x character
Much broader for this run. Gen pool 3 and 4*, story pairs (LA included), BP units, lodge units associated with aforementioned units
But yeah basically im@not using all my units for the run so it’s limited
Who did y'all half sync this week
Which round was it again
Ah it was Shauntal
I also half synced Iris for good measure LMAO
grimsley
Shauntal for me i think
I half synced Shauntal. Posted a video in my clears of it if anyone is interested (sorry to self promote if that’s not allowed, I won’t do it again lol). My self imposed restrictions on this week made it a lot safer to do a slow-and-steady half sync than a real half sync clear lol.
Yeees noland
Really love team 2 3 5
1 noland surprised me how good he is and synergize with barry
Choose power on hit and remove some HP params
Same mind
Also remove defence +1
Leaving out Status immunity isn't really giving you much benefit either
Same for tech damage x3
If they kill skyla, it's pretty much over anyway
It's Palmer that can't die
Caitlin 2.5k,R4
I am once again stuck
Blue ain't living more than 3 hits that too with hop constantly potioning him
Run a 2nd Electric damage-dealer alongside SST Red if you’re dead-set on off-typing
But you should have Riley for an easy on-type
How will he deal with sides tho
Punch them
I'll try anyways
Problem with sstred is i don't have a second electric dd
Other than pokekid ig
Highly doubt
Elesa?
BP Sophocles and Hau are free
LVolkner is semi free
But yeah, if need be you can just Max Move one side opponent to soften them up with Riley
If he’s been given a Strike Cake then his Sync will likely wipe them out
Solgaleo’s Focus Blast is an alternate option, too.
Wow, I might be getting my first 15k...
Yup, did it, first time I attempt anything beyond 12.5k
*EX Aaron, SC Ingo, SC Barry
*EX Skyla, Oleana, Ariana
*Anni Lillie, Sygna Cynthia 2, Seasonal Allister
*EX Glacia, Irida, Hala
*Maylene, NC Hop, Rei
Is there a tool to share parameters?
I don't know about listing them otherwise, even though that's important.
Idk what you mean by sharing them
You can either take screenshots in-game or input them into PoMa Tools’ parameters list and screenshot those
Yeah, glad it exists (not used to Poma Tools)
anybody got a way to beat grimsley on hard?
the aoe is killing me
any cheap method
What team(s) have you been trying thus far, and what round is it?
round 4
and ive tried screech with brutal swing crit
and buffs
nothing has worked
since liepard
aoe
hits everything
What Sync Pairs specifically?
Just saying the name of 2 moves doesn’t offer enough information
And what team(s) of 3 Sync Pairs have you been trying against Grimsley thus far?
That team is significantly lacking in synergy, for a variety of reasons and especially 2:
- There’s no tank.
- No one is there to help Ghetsis with his significant setup needs.
idk if tank matters tho
I cant ko liepard before
sync
and that nukes my whole team
I’d recommend redoing the team entirely. If you choose to build a team around Sidney, keep in mind that he ideally wants to be run alongside a 2nd damage-dealer who has strong regular moves to make up for the fact that Sidney’s damage is low outside of his Sync Move and a Support who handles that 2nd damage-dealer’s team
what would u recommend with what I have?
Nessa + Drednaw is a good option since she’s physical and can use Jaw Lock to remain on-type for if you’re facing a Dark weak stage (it’s also stronger than Razor Shell unless the opponent is weak to Water)
like what core?
So in such a team you’d then need to find a Support who can handle Nessa’s buff needs (a minimum of +1 crit if Nessa’s having to use her Trainer Move twice, but ideally +2 or +4-6 Attack and +2 or more crit so Nessa only has to use her Trainer Move once at most)
Alternatively you could build a team around Ghetsis. If you choose to build around Ghetsis make sure his teammates can give him +4 to +6 Sp. Atk. and +3 crit
Also, make sure you focus on the center opponent first so as to make sure they Sync as few times as possible
How would I survive the liepard sync?
I’d be surprised if Grimsley even got to Sync with a good team setup and proper triple queue, tbh
I dont have a supp that gives all those buffs my most competent supps alr used
Don’t ignore your 3- and 4-stars
I can tell you right now one of them has everything you’re looking for if you wanna do Sidney + Nessa, and you can run a combo of 2 Supports so Ghetsis can have almost everything he needs (1 Trainer Move use on Ghetsis is fine in a pinch) if you decide to go that route
nessa supp and what for 3rd slot?
The recommendation I initially gave for running Nessa was to be the source of high regular move damage (via Jaw Lock) to complement Sidney’s high Sync Move damage
Maylene has everything you’d want for Sidney + Nessa, yes
didn't work at all
turn 1 x att
no hard feelings grimsley
and wash away dred
what am i doing wrong?
If I can help, how about sidney amd colress?
Are you making sure to triple queue? Are you making sure to target the center opponent 1st? Are you making sure to use Maylene's Trainer Move so Nessa's critical rate gets maxed?
yes
So Nessa's Critical Rate is at +3?
It was more a suggestion for the sync from sidney
Also, whose Sync Move are you using?
sidney
Wait 2%? Hold on, is this regular hard mode or MM
Can you possibly screenshot or record your gameplay? Because even off-type you shouldn't be doing so little damage
Yeah that feels off ngl
Just avoid using any moves that cost gauge on Maylene until those are the only moves left
If need be click Potion from Sidney on occasion to save the gauge
Ngl I was about to test the team myself but I have everyone 140 and that wouldn't feel fair
Could you still try nessa with colress? His aoe screech and t wave can be helpful
1 Trainer Move from Nessa and after Sidney uses his Trainer Move he should just be clicking Brutal Swing unless he needs to save gauge
Sorry I might be butting in, I'll stop if need be
Can you maybe screenshot when the opponent is about to Sync?
I'm trying to see if I can narrow down what's going wrong with the current team before trying to figure out a new one
dead again
what did u guys use when u had to beat champion on hard?
cause its my first girst time
Fair enough, just wasn't sure if they wanted to keep that team indefinite or not
and im pretty sure everyone had the same champion
Nessa's Trainer Move was unused
Is there a particular reason for that?
Wait
Is this Round 3 or Round 4?
Light Screen at the start, but that wouldn't matter anyway since it's ignored by crits
How many Sync Moves did you use before the opponent Synced?
Ah, that is a Mega Absol, ok
like 2
You're getting 2 Sync Moves?
yes
And both are with Sidney?
Wait by that logic you were able to quadqueue
It is possible if they survived the 1st Grimsley Sync
Or that
yes

Ok, so what I can gather from the screenshot:
- Nessa didn't use her Trainer Move, which means her critical rate wasn't maxed. This would affect her damage output.
- I can't tell if Grimsley is Restrained. I assume he is.
- You didn't click Brutal Swing on Sidney.
Brutal Swing matters here because it confuses the entire enemy side (as long as Sidney used his Trainer Move first), which may buy you some extra time by causing them to fail to atttack
kk
At this point though, if you have enough Sync orbs (240) to grid Critical Focus on Cyrus we can just try a Cyrus Hydro Pump team
Most the time it's just use up tms first
Sorry, 2400
Cause they mostly don't take gauge
Because orb conversion
lemme try again
A couple of questions/things to remember just to cover my bases:
- Are you certain that you're using all of Maylene's buffs?
- Are you certain you're using Jaw Lock with Nessa?
- Make sure to use Nessa's Trainer Move once at the start of battle so that her critical rate can be maxed.
And make sure you triple queue, turn down the speed at the start if you need to
+triplequeue
In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.
See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4
For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.
Wait can I ask one more thing to safe? Since I learned it myself, are you also sync delaying?
fainted again
If you're talking about handling queueing Sync during the last 3 moves, that's covered in the triple queue video
Ok, I'm pretty sure there's something screwy here, but at this point it's more trouble than it's worth to try and pinpoint it right now. How many Sync Orbs do you have?
I was typing to them by the time you shared that sorry
10000 sync orbs
Perfect. We're changing gears to a Cyrus Hydro Pump team
Grab this Cyrus grid. Run him alongside Winona and a Support who can buff defenses. For Cyrus' actions:
Use Cyrus' Trainer Move twice before he does anything else so he fully sets himself up. Then use Spacial Rend once and restart the fight if it doesn't score a critical hit. After that just click Hydro Pump.
Make sure Winona sets Rain.
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19400/48400?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AhEUFxofISM
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
If he misses Hydro Pump too much you can add on tiles to get this grid:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19400/48400?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AgQRFBcaHyEjJSYoKw
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Ngl I sometimes forget winona
My fault
Cyrus, winona, and drake maybe for the team?
Ideally they wanna get type medal progress
do I have winnona?
Yes
That's Winona
Oh right uhh
Can we see your whole support roster really quick?
i got it
The reason this setup is strong is because Hydro Pump is a very powerful move, and Rain from Winona gives it a +50% damage boost. Cyrus also gives Hydro Pump even more damage via the Ramming Speed passive in his grid and his innate Critical Strike 9 passive. Cyrus doesn't need a Support to handle his buffs because his Trainer Move does his Sp. Atk. and Speed buffs, and Critical Focus from his grid handles his critical rate buffs. That's also why that initial Spacial Rend needs to crit: Critical Focus won't activate if it doesn't
should i rain dance first turn or trainer?
Winona can also provide flinches via Air Slash to stall the opponents' actions a little
Rain dance after the tms and such
You can wait until Winona's 3rd action to Rain Dance since Cyrus won't be clicking Hydro Pump until his 4th action
Doing it that early would waste the rain time itself
whats last slot?
Can we at least see all the supports with this filter?
if you have support and that clicked it will show everyone that can buff defense at base but not from things like passives or grid passives
so someone like SSKris will not show up with her team stoic 4 for example
If they have trouble finding someone then we can try and zero in on options
But I'm at least trying to get them to learn a little bit since I've already almost handed them an entire team
Oooh they all at level 1
but I didnt think anout rain
i can get to 120 quick
winona is 120 now
OK maybe not roxanne cause I genuinely mistook her tm for raising spdef amd not spatk
Cause I know grimsley does both special amd physical
Fair enough but have to be safe
I just want to clear this up you are usinf Cyrus Winona on this stage correct and this is just normal mode?
Yes
I think one of the two sides for aoe special which can be a scare
On a somewhat different note, I do hope this experience has shown you why you need to spread out your powerful Sync Pairs in CS
She's a very early pair
Can try Rosa and see if she works, just don't click X Sp. Atk. All immediately
she is good but she can be a bit lacking on the defensive side as this isnt master mode this shouldnt matter too much but I would make sure to grid cyrus for critical focus and fish for a crit on spacial rend
Save it for after a couple enemy Snarls to top up Cyrus' Sp. Atk. if you use Rosa
Actually roxanne can work cause looking at grimsley's stuff he has Snarl which can drop Cyrus's spatk
Already went over Cyrus' job in great detail, no worries
alr 
If you want, if roxanne is used, use up her x defense, only use her tm if you see Grimsley using snarl
But you can also try with wide guard cause aoe side, just a thought
I'm gonna be absent for a few minutes, think you can handle troubleshooting if I'm not back in time Richu?
Wait oh no wonder I was thinking about the spdef buffing, huh
Did you make sure to use Spacial Rend once, and restart the fight if it didn’t score a critical hit?
What? How? That sounds so off
Spacial Rend’s crit damage is unimportant
Hydro Pump is the big damage button
The damage from the Spacial Rend crit is what’s unimportant
That’s what I mean
Apologize for ambiguous wording
crit hydro does 10
Are you making sure to use Cyrus’ Trainer Move twice, and is he using it under Rain?
Even in rain?
yes
idk why this e4 is so bulky
the other 1s i did with no difficulty
should I maybe consider lvl 140?
i have the resources
the difference from 125 to 140 isnt that big
Your Cyrus is 20/20, right?
You used his custom powerups to increase his potential?
yes
Can you maybe screenshot when the opponent is about to Sync again?
At the opponents’ 1st Sync
Because they really shouldn’t even be able to get more than 1 Sync in
And again, make sure you get that single Spacial Rend use to crit
Does he got 3 crit?
Hold on
Oh wait no he should
When did Roxanne go down?
Actually yeah good point
like 2 turns before
When that gappen?
Wait, you Synced once before Roxanne got KOed?
+triplequeue
In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.
See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4
For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.
Follow that guide
Then who synced?
You should be Syncing because it gives a big damage boost
The Sync buff, gained from using a Sync Move, is a permanent +50% damage boost
Sync with Cyrus since he’s gonna have the highest damage Sync out of the team
lemme try
If worst comes to worst use Skyla as the Support since she has loads of bulk
I was hoping you could wait to use her, but if push comes to shove then she’s a good tank
Ngl I was about to try to suggest skyla with bea and colress, yeah I keep saying about colress I'm sorry
Bea we wanna save for the Champion for sure because they desperately need the advantage that on-typing gives them
Ok that's true
Example
Though the investment isn’t something they have, the principles of Hydro Pump are the same
I don’t think they can EX their Roxanne
Ngl I haven't done that either
yeah probably sync with cyrus or winona
Probably cyrus cause aoe sync in this case
doubt they have ex
Their Cyrus isn’t EX
Is it not?
But Cyrus’ Sync is easily the strongest of the team
I thought that was the right pose?
it's been a while since it reran
Oh now I can see the clothes easier
I was focusing on the pose more than that
My brains on a roll tonight
Sync with Cyrus
Not roxanne in this case
Your Roxanne isn’t EX, Sages’ Roxanne is
Supports usually can't do good sync damage
That’s why they Synced with Roxanne. Since yours isn’t EX Cyrus’ Sync is better
well i didn't want to damage the sides, to demonstrate how you deal with them
Fair enough
Tbh though I’d have Synced with Winona if you wanted to showcase that
Since that would create the lowest discrepancy
Anyway, not important rn. Since no one in the current scenario is EX Cyrus has the best Sync
I almost want to say sync one of the sides and let cyrus just blast Grimsley in the face after with hydro
so close
Maybe the one of the left cause that is a special aoe
Honestly not a bad idea
i will read
Like roxanne does have the grid for spdef but since Grimsley has Snarl, would ruin a lot of cyrus tm
Try that on one or 2 attempts, pick a side and target them with your Sync to see if it changes anything
Don't worry for the umbreon, cause they don't have special aoe, only aoe single
If Cyrus is doing enough to the center with Hydro Pump it might be the thing that pushes you across the finish line
Oh there's Snarl on that umbreon, huh
Really classic team, should be able to do it
yeah that stage lowers spa and speed, probably not the best for cyrus
But roxanne does have wide guard which might help
Rn it’s kinda the best I could figure out given the circumstances
If you get the flinches it should work
I didn’t have a whole lot to work with from their available roster
Regardless, it seems Cyrus is probably gonna work out with another few attempts
well cyrus shoud still manage
I k ow they said they were going to sleep but wanted to check, this means 50% right?
Air Slash base is 30%, so it goes up to 60% with Aggravation 1
I was gonna say rain dance after cyrus is done setting tm and crits, then spam aggravation air slash for flinching
Air Slash is a good move to be using when not setting Rain regardless, Aggravation just makes it even more appealing
Yeah and we don't really have to worry for tm all too much cause roxanne sets the buffs that bypass Grimsley sync
The base chance is multiplied by the value of aggravation skill + 1.
So, Aggravation 1 doubles the base chance.
Aggravation 2 would triple, and so on.
this same logic applies to: Hostile Enviorment, On a Roll, Swag Bag, and Unexpected Benefits x2
reminder to add this to glossary

Yeah I'd say get aggravation on air slash at least
Maybe try to flinch Grimsley first and maybe set up wide guard by the time the sync happens from pelipper
Sync the left side>hydro pump into grimsley>wide guard
Don't use wide guard until your second sync is done
Or if mid is down
Congrats
Congrats!
If you have enough resources, you could try ontyping
True true
I have NC Blue and NC Red but I'd rather use NC Red for Shauntal
I have some good pairs, who would be good for offtyping?
Oh wait I have SST Red
Who should I pair with him? A poisoner? Is it worth using NC Blue here?
Marshal’s only real gimmick is that he effectively has Sentry Entry x1.5
Other than that, I guess Overwhelm 2 maybe could influence your choice of tank
Sentry Entry is the boosted defense one?
Yeah I guess that's true!
I have Rei and Bea, but should I use special attacks versus Iris?
Physical does totally fine against Iris
I used Skyla/Bruno/Riley and had no problems whatsoever at 3k
I used support Janine, Roxie, Koga and it was very smooth. Looker would probably make it a lot smoother over Roxie
this should do it for next week mmhmm
when do parameters for a new week typically get revealed?
when CS resets every week, that information can't be datamined unless it's a special CS
special cs has that info? 😮
Round parameters for this month’s Special CS have been in the pins for multiple weeks now
hrm Round 2 against Sidney might be best.
And either Round 3 or Round 4 for Drasna i suppose.
All the round parameters are minimal impact ones
I wouldn’t worry about them outside of (maybe) planning around no quadqueue on Round 1 and making sure to avoid big special damage-focused e4 on Round 2
Round 2 is Special Attack Up, so avoid Drasna there o-o
Wtf 3 rock stages
I mean, there’s only like 3 Champion types, iirc
yeah, Unova only has Rock, Dragon and Fighting weak stages for the champion slot
Time to revisit stacking 10 SMUN on Piers 
Tf the special stadium is in june then
here are my tentative teams for tomorrow (pls ignore the falkner team), any suggestions?
One shotting the stage turn 2 is always nice
It's going to get 1 hit first turn
looks fine, though the grimsley team might have gauge issues at first
Marshal also looks like it will have gauge issues
I recommend using a fast defense debuffer like Nanu or Kukui
If Sonia is not 3/5 N won't get crit buffs
alright, should i replace sonia then? i was intending to use her for gauge help and volkner for electric terrain
Can you show us your support options?
Kiawe or SS Morty work nicely, but both need a TM MPR to max crit
if u don’t mind me asking, what exactly does mpr mean, im still getting used to pmex abbreviations 
Move Point Refresh. When you pick that tile on sync grid, it allows you to have a chance to get a MP back after using the move
ooooooh alright
does it matter whether i use kiawe or ss morty or do both sort of work the same way?
SS Morty has better heal and gauge generation
got it 🫡🫡🫡 is there a recommended grid for him then?
you have a 1/5 ss morty, there really isn't much to take
Just pick TM MPR
my issue with ss morty is he doesn't buff attack quite as fast
fair
updated
good params all around
i did take some of y’all’s suggestions, ss morty made it a lot easier for caitlin (mpr is actually crazy), shauntal and grimsley got dogged on, and i had to off type marshal a bit since the first team did have gauge issues
Roark gaming
Funny bear moment
Stuck on Grimsley Round 4 effect , been playing for 2 days so very limited amount of units . Would like recommendations
If I need to unlock any units accessible through legendary adventure will do
yes you should do it first
Hmm so after doing it what should by team be or what units should I be using?
can you show me your medal progress?
I thought these were important so I decided to focus on them , turns out it was lol , couldn't get 9/9 tho only 8/9
Zamazenta, Beedrill and SS Grimsley should work
don't use Grimsley's TM
if you can, grid Zamazenta with Trainer Move MPR
Thanks , I have 14k sync orbs should b fine
And also sorry to ask in advance but would it be possible to beat Alder without using super effective moves?
Or should I use Gordie? Is he good?
Since Brock or Roark don't look like reliable DPS
Gordie doesn't have good dps either, but his sync is okay at 1/5 and his max move is great
Alder has very low HP so you shouldn't worry much
Hmm so I should try to put Sycamore since I heard hes good and put 2 decent fillers for the type medals would be best for Alder?
great thinking
Alr thx will try
Feels a bit unnecessary but here's my first ever Champion Stadium Win! Ty Gakon
Woah congrats!
Honestly I thought this was gonna be another game I played for. Week and left , but it seems very fun with all the gimmicks and strategy and with all the sites and documentation on the enemy makes the whole thing so much easier.
Glad you enjoy the game. When your roster is starting to glow up, you can start taking part in weekly Battle Rally seriously
Hmm yeah , I'm thinking about pulling selene since her steel zone seems kinda op to pair with hop , plus I've heard the ticket mawile character is also a good steel type DD so those 3 might look good together? Plus I have accumulated 22k gems so I don't mind spending some , and if I get unlucky I can do the legendary adventures to finish the banner and reach pity if it gets to that , Sorry might be a bit off topic
Yeah, better move the talk to #poma-questions you can check the pins there for banner priority chart if you are still uncertain. June is a big month in terms of gacha banner so saving is also a good choice
Hmm ok I'll think about it a bit more thanks!!
Congrats
Gakon is a great help he got me through this phase too
A true hero
Oh yeah, it's all coming together
I circled the wrong thing smh
Literally TIL that ss glad's passive synergizes with this param so i'm gonna test it
Yeah it's pretty funny
Huh it reflected back to mid inly. Sides don't get debuffed
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Yeah
You can see it here a lot
Should I go with BP Val for Marshall?
an offensive support + Volo + BP Valerie/Lodge Lillie should work easily
An offensive support like Sonia?
yeah that makes sense
Another option would be to sacrifice Volo’s damage to buff LodgeLillie
the 1st slot is open, so why not just bring a spatk support for her
Most options are too frail to accommodate for 3k
Especially with a subpar unit (can’t burst clear)
(Can’t run SE hyper offense, yada yada)
My first 3k today
still can't believe how good the riley they gave us is
Like a slightly watered down Rei
Yeah Riley is super good for a free unit. I’m finding that a reasonable number of totally free units can clear 3k if you’re a li’l tenacious (and they have their grids) though which is nice
Yeah they just need good supporting
Sycamore ex, Valerie 4* and 5* elessa clears every fairy weak 3k csmm
They even brute forced Fairy weak Cynthia? Impressive
Congrats philip dear
Soon you can 3k them all in no time
Not that you asked really, but I’ve been finding that some of the lodge units do a fine job clearing 3k at the very least for Unova (namely Lodge Rosa on water weak and Lodge Skyla on flying weak), so those might be good units to go for in Lodge
I think I actually used Skyla for flying weak Diantha, not a Unova stage but she worked fine for that
@plush hollow You think 3k is possible with your suggested theme? (solo Cresselia pairs)
These are my options
ss lyra can make the opponent never move
wait those are teams
or just showing the pairs?
idk
even with no synergy most of the combinations of op pairs should clear
and if you're trying to have synergy
people that play cs more should be better at helping with that than me
Ready for next week
what is tapu koko doing?
wouldn't basically any kanto mon to boost the master passive be better?
How are you going to deny that contagious smile? That’s better than any 10% boost.
I mean, it's likely just for SMUN stacks, but on type doing either is a moot point
ya, i did like a 4450 pre-sync with my ice type team last time lol
its hard to not just obliterate everything now with ice
EggLapras would literally be better 
Egg glaceon even better
True. Egg glaceon would surely add to that team without assuming NC Red's move level being 3/5.
If SS Hau is 3/5 he's also got mind games to add to that team along with speed buffs and the SMUNs
Yo I did the solo Cresselia units 15k CSMM run 😎
Link: #1030190996773929033
I clicked the link.
I don't understand.
Do you mean you just used units in the CS that can solo the Cresselia LA fight?
yep 
Oh ok.
Weird theme, but I would assume those were some of the strongest units anyway lol
actually not really..? it's somewhat restricting because they are somewhat all rounders.
Oh same! #1011173305702690876 message
Gonna do moltres next
(not sure if i even have enough)
boosts articuno dmg and nuke just by existing
No egg Glaceon?
Ice Zone would be a much stronger boost than SS Hau (and tbh there's better teammates than SS Hau for NC Red anyway)
Nc Rosa should be better teammate than SS hau (especially if you aren't using ice zone and/or hail)
No
I’m pretty sure boosting Kanto Spirit with someone like Oak. Random debuffs are better than nothing. 
I believe smun would be better
Is 3k possible with off typing with these teams?
Might be tough
uhhh geeta and rika will fight for zone, no?
not sure what's winona doing in the Shauntal team
the first 3 teams can work, MC Pikachu doing nothing in Caitlin team, Rei and Sycamore are fighting for first sync and Sycamore doesn't have much synergy with Rei
Have you tried 2k and 2.5k yet and maybe adjust your params that suits you best.
the Solgaleo team (i assume it's for grimsley) should work fine
And yeah the rika and geeta zone overriding… maybe adjust that one
Not sure how far you're going to get with offtype Sidney - his nuke is great but you've got no DPS
Yeah you'd need to sync mid twice
Then sync sides once each
Sounds long and arduous
i would assume rosa will be hard carrying with the sleeplock
Even with sleeplock it ain't easy
mhm
Winona is there to flinch to buy turns i guess
yeah, Cyrus works perfectly well as a dpser
Even 1/5 Kris might actually work better than Sidney there
- cancellation of sun
but since shauntal is water weak i don't see why you picked sidney instead of any water damage dealer
Not doing sufficient damage, that's why I'm shifting to offtype
Can you share your water types?
which ones have you tried
Wait a sec
Trust me, Sidney offtype isn't an answer
Also palkia is a solid option
If Kris somehow doesn't work
Trying other on-type teams is usually much easier than trying to figure out something off-type
Just waiting for NC dark and ghost(especially ghost) dps
I did tried Barry and Crasher
Kris is 1/5?
2/5
She should work then if gridded
Ok I will try
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Do I have to Ex her?
This should be minimum
To help with the clear
Ex helps but if your parameters aren't too fucked up she can work exless
K
Then who will work best with Rei?
a tank and a defense debuffer
you can use Nessa (0 grid investment) or Cyrus
BP Clemont?
he works, for the 2nd slot you can bring another dmg dealer or flincher
Guys. Think I can solo?
not solo with this pair -_-
no one, tbh
Okay, this looks harder than I thought. Screw solos.
Soloing requires damage
And decent bulk
Eggmons and 5* BP don't have much of either
Still gotta try.
Well there is a line to draw between difficult & impossible, but knock yourself out if you wish to do so
Wish me luck.
Naw. Screw it. It's too hard.
And I ain't trying to get all my Eggmons up to 3☆.
That would be a waste.

hides all my 4* eggmons, with some being 5*
Insane that the pairs with no bulk and damage can't solo uh

hrm. i think i can change up NY Dawn for Dialga xD
yep that should do it.
(just gonna have to not Dragon Zone until i'm ready to nuke)
Thankyou so much guys
. Earlier it was looking impossible to reach 15k points, but I did it thanks to you all.
The battle against Shauntal was hell the toughest!
But after 20 tries or so (maybe more, I am trying this battle from 1 day, doing nothing else in the game) I defeated her!
For contrast:
For future references i recommend replacing Morty with a rain setter, allows Kris to clear faster
Rain setters like Winona and Tech Gyarados have moves to flinch
I tried that also, the reason I used BP Morty and NC Rosa because of the 4x Sync buff + Sleep and flinch
Or May if you have her. Does solid damage to sides. Especially helpful for non EX Kris
You can adjust your params to afford the setter
They can help you removing the need of constant turn denials
I did!
I tried many different params with several different sync pairs as well. The closest to defeating her were these three I used. So I just spent some more battles for flinch and sleep to work in coordination. I knew that once get rid of Shauntal the side pairs will be piece of cake! And it happened
Her sync move is so devastating 
Yeah she is!
What's KO?
Knock out
Yeah Ig my params were not good during I was using Winona, but now I remember what I params I chose in my last battle against Shauntal.
I will try it with with Winona also.
Phew I am so glad this is over!

Shauntal's stage o/
updated
Half sync my behatred
Only thing of note this week is that I half synced Iris for maximum dishonor LMAO
In any case anyone else got the vibe they’re about to introduce Paldean CS from the event?
should be, but they have to finish the current cycle first (kanto and alola left), they probably align paldea CS with the anni
and still missing 2 elite 4, they can be released in the next 2 months, or at least appear in events
Where perm field parameters
R4
Galar crying
Best round
People complain about half sync, but it's literally free 500 points
half sync is literal war flashbacks for me
Half-sync and perma WTZ are my 2 favorite round params
Arch what have you done to Trout
Passed on my legacy to carry on when I'm gone 
I won't let you down
I know 
Half sync is lowkey one of my favorite round params
Wait, what are the parameters that can be used besides -1 and -2 sync that can be cheesed with half sync?
I guess this:
- Half MP
- Half HP
- Strike/Tech/Support Takes x3 Damage
- -3 Stats to Your Team
- +3 Stats to Enemy Team
-3 stats is so good with SS Glad + Impervious support
Nah, do -3 stats without Impervious units 

Hoping for NC Kantrio rerun sometime this year 🤞
I kinda want Perma WTZ. Cuz i can do sheningans with like....
SC Selene, SS Lyra, 1/5 volo to smaller extent.
Or just Mix Red sheningans.
who’s better for the half sync parameter, i only have caitlin and shauntal left 🧍♀️🧍♀️🧍♀️🧍♀️
Whatever team can kill
Yeah, half-Sync rounds are much more dependent on your team(s) than the opponent
i did shauntal, it was a little tough since i had minor gauge issues but everything worked out 🫡
what was the point of ghetsis
i needed some super effective hits ☠️ honestly shauntal was more of a yolo for me 🤷♀️
In the future if you need an ice team I’d prolly recommend Ghetsus Lucian and a spatk/crit buffing support ex unit, or if you want to off type with Lyssandre then I’d definitely bring someone like May for rain
i’ll definitely consider this!
now how do i 3k a stage in master mode 
Hey guys! I'm going to try beating Unova's Champion Stadium! Think I can beat it?
With just Eggmons?
It may be possible with sleep chaining and insane skill/timing
3K I don't think so, full eggmons teams don't have the speed for gauge, nor the MGR required for consistent sleepchaining
Yea. I only got two Sleepers so I currently have to rely on my 40% flinchers. That... or brute force.
even with sleep chaining, the opponents will cycle through enough TMs, they will get to sync eventually, and most eggmons will struggle tanking the sync if you're on master mode
I'm trying Hard mode. I know that I can't beat master mode with Eggmons.
Did my first CSMM 15k solo. It was pretty hard
Close to my clears
I mean
Identical except for LuSS
I used LuSS since I didn't really have anyone else who can quickly reach sync on type
CNate makes such quick work of Iris it's funny. Grimsley was annoying since one Liquidation and Red dies
Caitlin was an mpr check
Shauntal was very easy with CRed
Shoot I completely forgot the fairy stadium is coming
Oh I do have enough units to monotype fairy
I don’t wanna this time though LMAO
You don't have to. Just units that have Fairy-type moves.
Or do the better thing and offtype cause fairy units suck 
poison stall:
Guess they're only hesitant on a monotype run not that they lack fairy damage dealers. With strong supports Diantha, BP Valerie, Katherine, Mina, Lodge Lillie, Palentines Serena and SS Gladion would clear decently well.
Probably got an extra zone setter as well in the egg lab
Imma just offtype .-.
Hum yeah i think i can offtype if my fairy teams cant do much hrm
I'ma try ontyping the entire thing 
gl o/
honestly, i can do Palentines Dawn as well, but not quite ssure if she can do it 1/5
Diantha also, stuck in 1/5
have OP supports kuku
I wonder how well 1/5 PalentineDawn nuke would fare with SEUP and whatnot
oh huh, i thought she had like -ATK down or -SP.DEF or something for her Sync Damage, its essentially NC Serena's Sync Multiplier 😮
might EX her then 🙂
yeah - she's just beta ChampSerena.
Ur horse isn’t good enough?
she's 2/5 so she's lacking the extra omph
This is roughly what I can do!
I thinks I had to offtype Grimsley and Caitlin!
And maybe the other three team can work!
These are not final match-ups though, it is just a rough estimate!
Even with rebuff that’s crazy
If you have Bianca
Infinitely better than mew
I don't have!
O
just get some random spdef debuffer then
actually... a spatk buffer might be better for faster buffing
Okay! Let me check if I have someone like that.
I have a question!
What actually NC Rosa's Psychic and Fighting type rebuffs do?
Because then I had to replace NC Rosa with Rosa probably?
nah, just replace Mew
K
Rebuffs in general are damage enhancers
If you lower a rebuff it’s like lowering type resistance
Conversely if you increase rebuff you increase type resistance
Mewtwo attacking turn 2 be like:
But that’s incredibly rare
Her psychic rebuff increases psychic type damage taken by the target by 30%
fighting type rebuff would similarly increase fighting type damage
aight pasio csmm time
mono clear done, should've used a def buffer for bruno, close combat spam was annoying, but easy CS overall
What is the skill that is blocking damage on Nate? I’m going for an all ditto type run so I’m using dragon on him and everything is doing minimal damage
you need rebuff
I did rebuff him too ;-; Lance has dragon rebuff and I used it on him but nothing
Anything else? What is this top skill? I tried to see what it was in the PoMa tools app and it dosent show
offtype? check your param then
he takes reduced dmg if no rebuff/status change
the 1st passive
I did the offtype is off
Bruh he was paralyzed and rebuffed 
What more does the game want lmao
i think pomatool is missing some passives, check the graphic in the pin
Yeah I have no clue
sounds like param issues

I was so confused since the whole time I’ve been using special units lmao

Wh… ok ok wait so it gets rid of the passive on the sides… but he still is taking no damage
you need to rebuff/apply status change on all 3
paralyze is status condition not status change
You can also apply gradual healing on them haha
… oh my god it wants me to confuse or flinch not. Ugh this game I stg
it's not the same as Acute Senses
Oh thought it was acute sense
the passive can be shut down by rebuff
Yeah it’s different now that I look at it
Wait really?… tbh that isn’t too bad of an idea. I can bring Leon then and actually get work done by rebuffing everything.
Crap. Alright I guess I need Lance again.
Although now that I’m looking at my Nate team, I forgot if anyone applies rebuff there
He’s the only one who can rebuff for me. Glad I didn’t burn him earlier
negative status change
- rebuff
- restrained
- no evasion
- interference: trap, flinch, confuse
gradual healing is a status change but not "negative"
Huh… I could try this with Zerena then. Wish I hadn’t used her earlier now ;-;
IG I’ll finish with Fairy for now and redo it after.
We’ll I beat it but I am not looking forward to redoing this stage
So many close calls with flinch/sleep procs
This special CS really pushed my team building skills to the max. Also I found out that Mina/Valery/LLillie need ex and even then they might not be able to do 3k CS with medium supports...
they should be fine doing the 2 easier stages: bruno and hala, the other 3 need good supports

Hala hits hard tho
Hala and Bruno: Close Combat 
at least they don't have a bunch of passives
Nah they really don't
If you have decent enough suoports
My Mina/Valerie are exless and did every fairy stage with f2p supports at 3k
Then I have issues with parameters
Lodge Lillie can likely work exless too because of seup
And debuffs
BP val is just a free W
The issue is more units like Kali
yeah non ex lodge lillie can 3k any fairy stage from any region, I usually use her on my f2p team
She can nuke but her DPS is real struggle material
Aside fairy weak Cynthia, I cleared every fairy stage with syca+Valerie+SS elesa/hop
Valerie is 4*

I only have 14 fairy types
Not counting Eggmons
That's all I used to beat the special CSMM

All them better units 
Mom mom i want cute cs clear
Mom: we got cute cs clear at home
Cute cs clear at home:
I hate drasna so much
She made me offtype a stage for the first time in 2 years 
For Hala clear did you reset for many OG Lillie's TM MPR or just save 1 for each LLillie's sync?
Hala's issue for me was my parameters + my gauge management, you can do it without MPR, but you would still like to have that extra heal if possible. Both Lillies got syncro healings making this bit easier to do
You want to neutralize hala's damage asap, so debuffing and also not wasting all TMs on the two supports
Average special cs
Thanks for the tips 🫡
Is this 3k?
It is
3k*5=15k
Thats crazy how did the marnie even clear i ran a team of f2p support with her but it was still close fiery wrath was doing only 4k
I've done the Marnie one before it's a tough one
params matter a lot and her gauge is terrible
Whew beaten pasio cs using only fairies
It was tough (fuck CC on 3/5 of them) but worth it
you need to bring a status change unit to shut down his gimmick
and bring a evasion debuffer / accuracy buffer
do you have Penny?
yeah, ive been off typing this entire stadium, you wanna see like my entire available roster?
yup
the stupid tracker never likes showing me my image so i had to do it the tedious way, forgive me 😵💫
+1
what is your aim? 3k or just beat Nate's ass?
beat nate’s ass ☠️ i don’t really care about mm atm
you can try Gordie May SS Lysandre, use Tar Shot on middle to shut down the dmg reduction
you don't have many options sadly
that team can clear pre sync
got it, how should i sequence their moves? im a little stuck on how i would execute this
Lysandre's TM, then 2 Steam Eruption
after syncing with him, use the B Move
be sure to setup rain early to maintain gauge
May's TM also helps with gauge filling
pain
Kinda sad I had to use NC Bede because there's no non-psychic support with psychic moves that can tank 3k STR (my only choices were Wallace/Lyra/celesa)
With Nate's buffed stats is ss wally meant to counter him? Or penny
To suck his stats
Penny is made for Nate
Why do you need psychic specifically
Using pairs with ontype moves but offtype sync
HJasmine kinda fits because it's technically a dragon type without dragon type moves
Every team aside the psychic and dragon ones have a super effective move without a super effective sync
i almost had him
my later attempts haven’t been successful either
Parameter issue maybe
ive been using the use special moves one, literally almost had him
im not doing master mode
Ah
im sick of this, i just want it to be over 🫠🫠🫠
That was fun
Can you beat this Pasio Stadium with non Fairy types?
yes, special cs never demands you to use the featured type
Yeah if you're lacking the ontype DPS you can always stall or offtype
still stuck on nate, ive been trying the setup gakon recommended and it just doesn’t work out 🫠🫠🫠 wondering if it’s an execution issue
Are Lysandre and May's Water theme skill at max level? Does Lysandre have CS2 and are properly gridded?
You can try another option like Viola
i can try that. what’s cs2 btw ☠️
ohhhh, so i have to test my luck with the cookies huh
It's a 1/8 chance, yeah
Hey guys, all good?
This team can clear this stage?



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