#Champion Stadium
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well if you've got strong fighting types it should be fine
I usually do off type for fun
Shouldn't be that much harder depending on team comp
2.5k is basically free parameters, then you have to squeeze 500 points based on your team
But still, siebold hits AOE and hard
Eh, seems chessable with Lana's Water Guard.
Except when she doesn't contribute much to stall team
Ssleaf easily stalls siebold tbfh
Especially if it's on reduced stats round
hrm, geeta gaming lets go đŽ
i fucking hate fighting weak wikstrom holy shit
Ghost-weak Wikstrom is still the worst of the worst
ghost weak wikstrom isnt able to one shot aaron from full
and before you say replace zone i barely have ppl who can do that
what team against Wikstorm?
im actually so fucking tired of using bea
cant take hits for shit takes forever to actually set up and barely does enough
His sync is special, right?
its not even surviving sync
bea is actually so frail that one earthquake puts her at 20%
with zone replaced btw
if it wasnt replaced she just dies
i already took off attack up 5
i might have to check stats cuz i dont remember struggling this hard
hmm for my fight, i used Aura Cynthia + NC Rosa on Wikstorm, instant clear the Steel Zone. I used bruno, but he died; those earthquakes hurt. Managed to clear with 8 Sync Buffs.
Almost forgot to prepare a team for tomorrow
bea just fucking folds to earthquake
Tbh i put him in r1 .-.
yeah im trying
but wow this shit is annoying
also trying darach bea aaron/hilbert
well the problem is bea is dying not hilbert
Try a defensive support instead
She shouldn't die with Aaron buffing her
Hilbert only gives +2 with TM shielded
Aaron gives +2 with first buff then more
Plus he can heal her
The tank is 3/4 for dunking on kalos
odd question but i can't seem to quad queue against malva
the side mon is queuing its move even before the sync move animation starts
i'm setting rain on turn 2 and there's no allied effect triggering
What round is it and what team are you using?
round 1
okay i think it's the special damage reduction
i just realised it as i typed it out
Yeah, it's the Light Screen running out for sure
burn is unironically very unfortunate
You finished her with the nuke tho right
Is that LMay? I know itâs LDawn
i sure hope that's regular may because fighting malva without changing the weather is suicide
Damn, Rei did 126k on his B Move with 6 stacks of PMUN with 4 sync buffs but without fighting rebuff
3k fighting pre sync đ
also anni steven and sc rosa are fantastic together
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Been mistyping the whole day ;sob:
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But really now that I just realized this might actually candy anni steven soon... Don't have much good options for physical flying at 3k level
lodge skyla:
not unlocked 
i used Lodge Serena for Diantha (Flying) đŽ
updated
Well, time for boring CS
3 lame round params 
Overkill much?
yes, ofc
First unova week for meeee
So any tips for unova?
First timr trying it
have you unlocked Unova's master mode before?
yes she got blasted into the stratosphere
it was regular may lmao
O wait i didn't yet :/
aint no way
i have to unlock unova's master mode
and i'm guessing every region except last month's when they come around

yes
Do higher points 
:/ did 15 out of 18 medals have to wait for next week to be able to play MM
No rewards no challenging myself
Huehue i made Ethan work
OK idk what params I need for this cause that sync from her allows her to one shot after and it's getting frustrating
Ground-weak Shauntal is definitely made to showcase Rika
yeaah i used her as a tank.
with Garchomp as the damage dealer. with SC Lyra for Ground Rebuff.
Rika wasnât even out when Ground weak Shauntal released
So Cynthia is one of the few Sync Pairs who really needs 3/5 to truly shine
Youâll probably have an easier time with Bertha + Courtney while you wait for Cynthiaâs 3/5

That being said, if you really wanna make her work you probably can, but you might need Courtney anyway for Ground Zone
Well I got it already thankfully, only cause I synced with bertha first after lodge cynthia
That's not what I meant
so im looking at shauntal and my ground roster is a bitâŚha 
not sure if i have to off type her or not
Is this hard or master mode?
hard
Bertha and Courtney are excellent nukers
Go for one of them then, and bring 3 unfilled types
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My bad for misinterpreting then
I'm not quite sure what else it could have meant tbf
Cleared 3850 points super easy đĽ°
I love Clod
I mean... I was doing it on-type
I don't think I've tried to go much over the 3850-4k range
yep, that did the trick, her with aaron and riley goes brrrrrr
now as for caitlin, these are my only dark type rosters, not sure how to work with them bc i never really used dark type rosters
Sidney may work, or you can bring Nanu or Piers with a strong offtype dmg dealer
What are next weeks types
check the pins o/
managed to make it work out with both of them + sc irida, just beat the champion too đŞ ez yoloing
Good job 
What I'm trying to say is that Rika is made for ground-weak Shauntal because of her type and the type she supports and people who pulled for her (mainly beginners) will have an easier time to handle Shauntal at very high points.
Like how I mentioned before that this week is made for this unit/s
Well units aren't made for specific CS stages, it's the other way around when a stage debuts that a certain unit may counter part of its gimmicks. Obviously Rika will help ground teams which will be a great benefit on ground weak content
Usually, the unit's initial debut will have a week in CS that is attuned to their type, like Rika for Shauntal
I think this is what I'm trying to say
Same goes V. Guzma and V. Plumeria. They are released on the 2nd week of this month's CS and the 2nd week of the CS has weaknesses attuned to their respective typings
Thatâs really good damage
That much is fair yes, they often do align with typings like that
Unova is pretty fun. Iâm not being forced to rely on OP units to 3k
Not that Iâm using like bottom of the barrel stuff either tbf lol
Gonna check later how much easier this is with godcerola
But at the same time trading away a master passive is probably also huge uh...
Any recommended order for this CS?
None of the round parameters are that impactful outside of the round 1 and 4 parameters messing with quadqueue, so order doesnât really matter
Also it's Unova. Basic team building skills are all you need.
Next week's beatdown is gonna be fun
I dont remember if grimsley has some kind of Entryx2 or not... Im going to enjoy running ss hilbert, holi viola and nc blue against him kuku
It doesn't matter what entry he has
^, max buffs + debuffs + giant DPS and nuke on any ontype stage would be wiped regardless.
Either hilbert's 100k nuke will brute force that or barry will blast him first
Never have to use Burgh ever again o/
eh... I wouldn't say that; he's a really solid self sufficient DPS himself + can use as secondary
Burgh is still very strong
yep
I use him for bug-weak Siebold
i did too
In 4k pts.
D:
Any E4 of special note that I should be careful about in the Unova lineup, or otherwise would have to pay attention to not use up certain types of pairs such as sleep/poison/paralysis/confusion etc?
Just to make sure a repeat of getting stuck with siebold and having to suffer through a 10% paralysis chance because I've used up all the decent paralysis pairs doesn't happen again
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Unova CS has basically zero gimmicks. With the exception of 2 outliers (Poison weak Marshal has an effective Sentry Entry x1.5 and Dark weak Caitlin has an effective Wise Entry x1.5) the gimmicks that do exist are pretty much just âhaha I debuff this stat a couple stages on entryâ or âhaha I inflict this status right before I Syncâ
â¤ď¸â¤ď¸â¤ď¸ ooo sweet, ty
You're new. Here is how it goes.
â˘Kanto/Johto -> Just bring a support with an on type attacker. They are baby difficulty.
â˘Unova/Alola -> Not gonna lie. You'll need basic team building skills. Some stages, as mentioned above, have some hard gimmicks. That's all tho. You can clear everything even with f2p roster.
â˘Sinnoh -> It's hard. Not impossible but you'll need to understand the basic mechanics and how to build teams around the opponents gimmicks. Also, on type is recommended.
â˘Hoenn/Kalos -> Just broken. Not hard, tedious. The stages will either have too much bulk and damage combined or they'll have ridiculous gimmicks restricting a lot of options. F2P is possible but you need good teams and custom parameters for each stage (not recommended it. Use your limited units too).
Johto and Alola has 1 or 2 annoying fights
Bug-weak Hau and fire-weak Koga
1 fight. That's why I'm putting Johto alongside Kanto.
Also the annoying with Koga in that fight is the crit shield after sync. Just presync or be bulky enough to outlast.
No the crit shield is right before sync
Ok so I've come back to the game after a looong time, and I'm trying 2.5k but I have no idea why I don't deal DMG to Caitlin, these are all my dark types
I could always resort to using red and Pikachu
Do you have Nessa?
3/5 not ex but yes
Thatâs fine. Replace Fall Caitlin with Nessa, tank with Hop and Sync with Masked Royal (make sure MR is gridded for Sync nuke)
Hop + Masked Royal + Nessa is effectively the âolâ reliableâ for 2.5k Dark weak stages
What does nessa do this scenario? Restrain and drop speed?
Spam Jaw Lock
Sheâs acting as your source of regular move damage while Masked Royal debuffs the opponents with Brutal Swing and Sync nukes
Jaw lock is a 4 gauge move in disguise
It has the same bp as thousand waves but single target and 3 gauges
waitaminute it's the same BP as TW? holy fucking shit.
I knew it was good but this??!!?!? 
Gauge: 3 | Power: 140 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Applies the Restrain effect to the target and the user.
Nessa & Drednaw
what the fuck
oh its cuz of the restrain effect
technically its a debuff but it literally only works to your benefit
since her kit is centered around it too
hello can someone help me
dd you try planning out teams for each one?
im trying just 1 right now

ss hau ss hilbert and torchic on caitlin
actualyl nvm that's not very good for a first timer
the pins is geared more towards Master Mode 
anyways, have you seen the type medal yet?
right now im trying this
but they dont do enough damage đŚ
Can I assume this is round 1?
should i use nanu and persian? dark type so i get extra effective damage
maybe i will try nanu persian and torchic and sycamore cuz he is a good tank
I think we're better of planning all 5 teams, regardless of whether we take parameters into account.
i just want to beat one battle first
no max crit be like:
Problem: you can't reset once you slot in a win
it will reset next week
types won't get locked in until you beat the entire week's rotation
therefore, you shoulud try and aim to beat it regardless
should i do nanu and sycamore and hop?
no; you're wasting too many OP supports on a single stage
ok
I doubt you have the resources to back up 4 more teams of that caliber
speaking of, have you posted your roster somewhere?
no
mind doing so?
overlapping type for medals; 1 less of a type if you really want to maximize
so what should i do
The quickest way I can think of expediting the process is either:
- share so I can help with teambuilding
- through teambuilding 101 yourself, with me and other helpers guiding...? (DPS unit->supports->extras)
You should really try to get a grasp of teambuilding, especially for multiple teams, as it's necessary for almost all content.
i read the guide
mind going through the steps 5 times then? (1 for each CS stage)
which steps
no offense, but I'm starting to think you haven't read teambuilding 101
want me to bring it up here?
i did read it
iirc, it's a step by step process of building a team. Mind starting out? I can't really know what you have apart from assumptions.
i cant take pictures from my ipad đŚ
That's alright. Could you pick some damage dealers at least?
also just to make sure my assumptions are more accurate: when did you start?
a while ago but i played sometimes and didnt play other times
on and off then... what's the oldest banner and/or event you remember?
idk
Either way, I can't ask every single question in the world to find out the entirety your roster unless I take ages 
my oldest limited unit is chase
aight that'll work for now
then i didnt play for a long time
do you remember what the 1st ste to teambuilding101 is?
+tracker
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for PokĂŠmon Masters EX
Iâd recommend filling that out when you have time
you're telling this person to do the tracker now?
making a team
Just when they have time
Because itâll make future help much easier
I mean, you aren't wrong
Step 1 of teambuilding is to pick a damage-dealer
lmao
i did
nanu for dark type
@mellow linden mind reading from my recent/above reply and read from there?
to beat caitlin
just want to let you know it may take a while for them to get the gist
Nanu isnât really a great damage-dealer pick since his damage output is very low
His main value is from utility
i tried ss hilbert ss hau but they didnt work
offtyping be like:
??
Well the stage isnât weak to Electric, so that makes sense that SS Hau + SS Hilbert is less effective
i dont have any good dark types đŚ
I was wondering why they made that decision too, but I just ignored it sicne they picked a SE option right after.
nanu and masked royale

k - MR will wokr just fine for this
Probably still fine, just means we need to think things through differently
i tried already
Piers is a Support, his type is irrelevant
what was the team you tried?
masked royale sycamore and viola
i did
it said to buff gauge and attack or special attack
sycamore has gauge on his move and he buffs special attack when he syncs
Ignore the in-game stage recommendations
no it said in the teambuild guide
Which stat to buff depends on the Sync Pair
Masked Royal needs someone to handle his Attack and critical rate buffs, you ideally want to reach +4 to +6 Attack and +3 critical rate by the time you reach your 1st Sync Move
HOLDUP before we continue, sicne this person CLEARLY doesn't know the difference between physical and special attacks:
Did you finish Victory Road?
yes
HOW
i followed the instructions
video tutorial?
aw hell naw
Anyway
Focus on this
If you have to use multiple Supports to handle his buffs thatâll be fine
mewtwo? it raises critical hit rate in the filter
Not a Support
I feel iffy to have them look the in-game filter for this stuff
like it works, but it doesn't show all the options
The in-game filter will work fine for CS Hard Mode tho.
Only buffs his own critical rate
ohh piers and obstagoon
You need to look for Sync Pairs who buff the entire teamâs critical rate
they have dire hit all
Yep, thatâs one example of a teamwide critical rate buffer
so i can run piers and obstagoon and masked royale and maybe viola for trap damage?
are there any others? just in case we can divert from using the same type twice.
Not Viola
You need someone to handle Masked Royalâs Attack buffs too
Because Masked Royal himself will spend his 2 buff turns on his Trainer Move to buff his Speed
And you donât want him spending more than 2 turns on his self-buffs
ok
you either have the third unit buff attack, or find 1 unit that covers both atk & crit.
maylene
grid is neede for max crit 
Yep, she can buff Attack just fine
but obstagoon already max crit
if u are fine with running her solely to buff attack, then this is fine
Level 120
ok
If you canât reach level 120 then try to get as close to it as you possibly can
i can make her 140
wont she be stronger at 140?
Itâs cheap and all you need here
ooh ok
If you're low on resources, we can attempt to save by planning all 5 teams so we know EXACTLY which units to upgrade/level up. You want to do this, or get one fight over with?
im trying it
And one more thing:
Make sure that all 3 of your Sync Pairs are using an action before every opponent action.
(bro didn't even consider the parameter's existence đ )
what does that mean
None of the round parameters this week are impactful enough to matter rn
u gonna paste the triplequeue copypasta now?
If they need more elaboration on triple queue then yes
can u record your footage or no
idk how to
Were you following this?
aight that sounds alright...
And whose Sync Move were you using?
piers
ah there it is
but on videos they say support is good to sync first?
Only if EXd
that's only if they have support EX, which you don't have
Which I doubt your Piers is
Not right now
do you even have the resources to đż
Just Sync with Masked Royal
ok
I see newbies beat hard without support EX every once in a while; I think you're fine without it.
ok there's definitely something wrong
i only have 2 obstruct so i cant survive many moves
Donât bother with Obstruct
there it is
Unless you absolutely have to
oh i forgot to click dire hit all 
BRO WHAt oml
That would explain the low damage
so about the parameter not affecting most gameplay:
Maybe take a step back if youâre gonna keep making comments like this
i got rly close
I would really like to build all the teams tho... 
but then the last side killed me
before we jumped in
Give me a second to type out an answer to that, it takes a little bit to explain it fully
Y/N Question for CSteel: You gonna explain quadqueueing or not? I assume the latter.
So when your team is using its last 3 moves before your Sync Move becomes available, wait to queue more moves until your Sync is ready.
Then queue Sync followed by your other alliesâ moves
That way you get your next Sync Move faster
It also allows for a more complex technique called quadqueue, but thatâs not something youâll need to worry about in this fight
quick mention, got it.
got it đ
I'll probably add that to my arsenal of helping newer players
I BEAT HERRRR
Congrats!
type update: dark & fighting, right?
Let's not bypass the word filter like that
Thatâs whatâs been done so far, yes
ok sorry 
i need a break now
thanks for ur helping cobalt steel
FYI for when Citadel comes back: We got Chase wildcard for real trouble.
u deserve the helper role u r very patient with me
Just remember the principles we went over here today (and obviously adjust things as needed such as swapping Attack buffs for Sp. Atk. buffs if your damage-dealer uses special moves) and sooner or later youâll be blasting through Champion Stadium on a weekly basis like itâs nothing
okk đ
i don't know for Grimsley if i should use SS Lysandre or SS Hilda then paired with SS May
SS Lysandre's Fire damage is not very impressive
SS Hilda's V-Create, on the other hand, is phenomenal
SS Hilda damage just seem inconsistent whenever i use it which i think its just from Critical Strike 2 doing its thing rather than me
SS Hilda should always be critting unless youâre not clicking her Trainer Move for some reason
Or if the opponent has crit immunity for some reason
Yeah i always use "For the win" so as the battle starts
Then she should always be critting V-Create, and CS2 isnât RNG
it probably is critting just the damage output is a bit rough depending on what you're facing against
Thatâs probably more team-related or youâre trying to off-type Sentry Entry x2 stages or something
What are your available supports?
a good amount
lemme seeee...ss mina, ss acerola, grusha, sonia, aaron, penny, jasmine, lyra, sycamore, roxanne, evelyn, and some other probably less relevant ones
The one thing i can think of is chase tbh
I'd say ss mina can be good for her, bring a sun setter tho as red likes sun more than mina's rain
Depends on the Move Level as well as whether or not you're gridding Haymaker on him
hes level 2 rn (but i do have a couple candies i can use if needed) and ya hes got haymaker
actually im gonna try out ss acerola and see how that goes brb
Yeah, SS Acerolaâs a good pick if heâs got Haymaker
Especially if you have a 2nd Fire damage-dealer you can run in addition to Red
that worked perfectly actually woohoo
i just ran evelyn along with her
First time in a while Iâve used mewtwo for cs. Was quite fun
Kinda simple, I just need a bit of extra damage
Maybe because of that phys dmg reduction, that's the main problem with mixed teams
That do be a lot of HP there
Consider some more Attack in lieu of HP
Nothing's possible unfortunately
Also Max CD 1, try drop that. Would give you an extra turn to get damage in
Strike Damage x3

I'm not too good with the timing of ET tho
What should be the rotation
I think she doesn't benefit from ET with her sync, but her B Move does
No, I'm not too familiar with it
Sorry for ping
Opp Sync cd -1 is easily one of the biggest noob traps
It's absurd
Np
I usually kill them before, I rarely run off type that is not NC Red/SS Gladion
50 PTS for having to denial to sync twice is too much of a hassle, at least -2 gives 200
50 is too little
Basically you want to quadqueue right after your max move, it's easiest if you do Oleana's max turn 0
And then spam click TM
So better to poison rather than paralyze them?
I thought I shouldn't have done that, but that's what Oleana's kit is based on
What units are you running
Chase, Oleana and Roxie
you can open with Oleana's max move as the first action, then insta queue to preserve triple queue
oh wait Chase is there, no need to care about insta queue because he makes up for it with sync cd, but it's still better to do that
If your damage output is good enough, in most stages it can be an advantage for hyper offense, since most stages have a scripted tm at -1 you can avoid a turn of damage as long as you can ko the center before sync
For hyper offense the difference between having to tank 2 vs 3 attacks can be game changer
Unless the scripted move is something that you don't want to deal with, like crit shield or hyper beam, getting the extra sync reduction may be beneficial if your DPS is good enough
I mean that for 50 points I'd rather grab Def +1
Because with -1 you need to run sync cd or denial to double sync
Which is often what you need to beat 3k
I meant that for hyper offense it can be considered beneficial (but I'm talking about clearing the stage 1st sync) because 95% of the times it means that you have to tank 1 less damaging move, regardless of the 50 points, but ofc don't pick it if you are planning to do 2nd sync clear unless you are using sprint ex or sync countdown
If you can win 1st sync, even if you pick -1 and -2 you can still presync
For me is a staple for hyper offense
help me ground weakness elite 4 pls
honestly canât help you that much, but do you have courtney or bertha?
hmmm alright this might have to be an off typing case if you donât have good ground rosters, iâll let someone eventually come in here to help you out
im trying to use mewtwo zamazenta and lusamine
i donât think hop and zamazenta are the best tank to use in this case, iirc, shauntal uses a chandelure and hopâs weak to fire
@rotund lagoon pls help
yes that team has very little synergy
who should i put
can you post your remaining 5* units on the move level page?
also how many points are you attempting or is this hard mode
@coral sparrow what is like your roster? like who do you have
+tracker
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Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
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Since you got both Mewtwo and LuSSamine to offtype id suggest to just bring musharna necrozma girafarig if you got them, that should be overkill for any stage
yes
Well, then that removes my suggestion of any f2p psychic type
wait shouldnât the psychic units be saved for marshal anyways
heâs the one weak to psychic i think
idk
Considering how good psychic type roster is i dont think It would be a problem
Yeah, better to save Giovanni + Mewtwo for Marshal rn
But if LuSSa IS actually Lusa light be better not to
how do i beat ground weakness then
Would depend a lot on your roster
well we don't know your current sync pairs so we can't really help you out much
they said they have no ground rosters
What ground types do you have
it looks like this is an off type case
A
ive never used clay or hapu before so idk how they work
For now I think it'll be easiest if you take some time to fill out the tracker so we can see your roster
We're shooting in the dark a little bit here, it's going to be much easier if you fill out the tracker
Have you pulled any banner unit and if so which?
too much clicking
is there a command to auto import my unit?
Nope
i dont remember but i have chase
and selene
the new one
It's a community tool, so no way to make it connect to the game
ok ill do it later maybe
I highly recommend just filling out the tracker as soon as you can. I know it'll take a little bit, but in the long run it'll save you so much time because we won't have to guess who you may have out of hundreds of Sync Pairs
Most gacha games donât have sites such as trackers or info on units thatâs community side
Might be just easier to go for a kyurem nuke or stall
Just tap on optimize
The optimize button does not use good metrics for putting together teams
Plus it's far better to help foster teambuilding skills now on easier stuff like CS Hard Mode so they can start being able to put together strong teams on their own when they reach harder content
It'll help in the short run too because they won't be gambling on Optimize accidentally creating a team that might actually do something
Peak optimization (at least it got dark weak right)
Please don't ever recommend optimize as a valid use for team building even as a joke to players trying to complete battles.
I'd go so far as to AVOID OPTIMIZE, as it's one of the worst things you can do.
the dark weak one only works cuz it's literally a no brainer meta dark team.
afaik/afair for F2P/new rosters, comps that'll only cause self harm.
Now watch as I backtrack and reply to past messages due to boredom
Wow⌠not much happened
Honestly, Iâd assume a lot more people come here due to a potential flood of new players in 4.5 Anni
Looking at c nate...
What do you wanna use for him ?
Having a hard time guessing what he wants
Penny for rebuff...
Something about accuracy
Itâs gonna depend on your roster
Fairy cs is just offtype cs 
Whatâs he designed for?
that is not really what j meant
That's what i meant
What does Dena WANTS you to use
That I have no clue
I assume Penny + someone who doesn't care about accuracy or can lower evasion
Iâd say Katherine, but Iâd be surprised if DeNA designed the stage for a freebie
It's indeed designed for Penny, as Fairy rebuff + B Move snatching buffs
Ah, right, B Move
disarming voice is sure hit and penny has rebuff and stat leech
SS Wally is also a good counter, but he can't debuff evasion so it's still an issue for teammates
Not if they have piercing gaze or a move that doesnât miss
its definitely for penny
ss wally happens to encompass some of the same gimmicks
but not at the timing that penmy does
Its also an issue for landing his b move 
still cake him B)
Elaine so disgusting la 
Flinch Works đŽ
Hopefully a marnie rerun comes, i need dark and also a ghost type NC unit. My Ghost is legit nothing. Ghost WeakStrom just laughs at me at how bulky he is.
Accessible Ghost types are good enough, i can beat Wikstrom's ass with an EX support, Shauntal and Brycen
SC Brycen? Dont have one 
Wait isn't that dark type, which brycen you talking about.
Oh the one with haze
2 more resets huh. I should EX SC Diantha next.
If you have Event Victor, he is the better slot
Haze + ghost zone + TM buffing spatk and crit on an ally
Irida week next
Imagine having hisuian zoroark (havent changed the title of each team)
i think it IS ss gladio'
SS gladion's passive returns debuffs to the opponent
its penny wof
penny has rebuff leeches the evasion and has debuff to disable good form
Yâall thought Penny was cool?
Wait until they introduce Nickel and Dime in gen 10 
we already got coin so thats not even that much of a stretch
Aight. Ready for tomorrow. Hopefully ex for sc diantha should be good hehe
SSRCynnthia will do ghost stage. New exr. Apart from that... I'll build teams tomorrow morning.
Might also add Emma for new exr on poison weak.
Set for tomorrow.
Oh is it ghost tomorrow
anyone know how i can find the stage weaknesses for tomorrow?
Pins!
You can also go to PoMatools->Champion Stadium but the pins are probably closer
thanks! just checked the pins đŤĄ
Thereâs also a link to the Pomatools CS section in the pins, in case you wanna check out the stage gimmicks (or rather, the stage half-gimmicks in this case)
I should maybe use noland for grims
Reliance on sync + sync fucking up fc is challenging though
Which Noland are we talking here?
Just dual damage-dealer with Bugsy or a 3/5 Guzma
Spam Fury Cutter with Noland and Sync nuke with Bugsy/Guzma
but i want him to sync for the mega lol
Could run Lusamine or something for regular move damage then and Sync nuke with Noland
are yâall coming up with a team for bug weak grimsley
Just trying to help them figure out how to fit Noland into their team
i see
the tools is taking a while to load on my end, i never used a bug team in cs before so i kinda wanted to try and build one
hereâs my bug rosters
SC Barry just kinda wins, tbh
You have aaron!
At worst maybe bring Bugsy + Beedrill along with a Sync nuke grid to handle 2nd Sync onwards (Barry does 1st Sync) if Barryâs regular move output isnât quite enough
He's very good support
oh definitely, aaron lowkey kinda broken
Yeah, Aaronâs a good Attack + crit Support and can be used on pretty much any team that needs those buffs
Heâs even 2/5 for access to his MP Refresh
who can i bring as a third sync pair?
If you make buscythsr max, he can be a leer machine which barry appreciates
That's assuming you want all 3 to be bugs though
If you're open to any other type you have better options
If youâre doing SC Barry + Bugsy then an Attack + crit Support, if youâre doing SC Barry + Aaron then it doesnât matter too much (and if itâs Hard Mode you should try and fill out type medal)
thatâs fine, ive been wanting to explore more sync pairs anyways
i still have like 7 pieces left on my metal â ď¸
Which are?
7 types left is pretty easy, actually
Let us know so we can incorporate them into teambuilding
Especially for Unova
Do you have yamper
yes
Poison is automatically done by facing Marshal, so thatâs good
For Normal, if you have Gladion + Silvally you can use him as the main damage-dealer for any of the fights to fill Normal while also doing supereffective damage
Honestly I think some of the easiest ways to finish type medal is to establish strong duos who are complete without help from a 3rd team member
Then the 3rd can just be type medal filler
Agreed
SS Lysandre can off-type a Hard Mode stage easily, btw, so you can use him + a Rain setter + a Support who fills type medal to get Water + another type
For fairies, kali or lillie can be a misc 3rd team member
Heck, you can even try without Rain to see if you can get 3 types in one go with SS Lysandre
I think fighting can be done by wally+Shauna+lillie
Or
As cobalt said, if you're using glad in one of them Shauna can give offenses and crit
got it 𫡠iâll see if i can find a way to make things work, thanks!
Christ Shantaul was stupid hard this week with dauntless and only 1/5 Fall Roxanne who couldn't survive past sync. Had to pull NC Leaf from my fire team đ˘
What team were you using initially? Fall Roxanne shouldnât be having many (if any) issues with a solid team backing her

lol
even dena knew acerola was nothing but a shield
Fall Roxanne + Rika at 1/5 each, no ex role on Rika + 2/5 ss leaf as debuffer. Ground zone didn't last long enough and Roxanne wasn't doing enough damage outside of it đ°
Just bring Courtney then
Next time
You donât even need an extra debuffer, Fall Roxanne handles all the debuffs that team could ever desire
Courtney would bring more Ground Zone and some more damage output
updated
not the half sync 
Half sync 
Not everyone appreciates that round parameter like me
I get to do funny stuff with SS silver and SS n 
Do it in 4k points 
now that leaves the dreaded question, who should i leave for the half sync parameter đ
save half sync for your strongest team
3k take it or leave it
Nice, now 3k it
i possess no master mode knowledge đĽ¸
awesome
3k is asking a lot for someone who just finished type medal
yeah it is, but you can try going for 850 pts first
Iris half sync is so fun with Riley around lul
4.2k is where good rewards stop, and it's also a great first milestone
Half syncâd Iris too for good measure LMAO
No respect
Ready for SCeleneâs debut next week
Agatha gaming
So this week i will start trying 2500 runs
Any tips?
And who i shouldnt keep for r4 this week i always fall for that đ
check the pins for recommended presets and nov's advice on parameter rounds
the most dangerous param this week is R
R3
Where is novs advice?
Thank you gakon u are a true hero
Yeeee.
Thinking of this team r1 for grimsley
What do u guys think
On type post sync parameters
đ Thank you
One down
But used rika (acc down) with nanu
Marshal weak to poison :/ dont have good poison dealers
not really. what are your parameters?
mm. maybe you think palmer doesn't do damage because crush grip has a shit damage scaling
the less HP he has, the less damage he will do
max HP on top of strength isn't recommended
i mean palmer himself
don't be afraid to pick up the attack up and power on hit parameters
So i use the last 2 in the 200s? Instead of max hp 8?
take both power on hit
you can take attack 5, which will make the enemies hit significantly harder, but also significantly less bulky
If it worked on his own hp
He'd be insane.
He even gets a buddy heal
Man he'd be so broken then
Grimsley managed to fight through Paralysis, Confusion, and -1 accuracy just to snipe Penny with an Iron Tail
I still won, but câmon man
Lmao
Did it also crit? 
Iron tail is not accurate as well, is it?
I donât actually know if it crit or not
that paralysis was gonna be the end of me đ
Like in base
Because I didnât pay attention to the sound
85 iirc?
every time i tried to use sc barryâs buddy move, paralysis had to stop him each time
Iirc 75% accuracy base
Oh worse than I thought lol
Lmao so Grimsley really said fuck you even with -1 acc
He gambled his way through
Grimsley was just shenanigans for me today
Marshal gave me a lot of trouble this week
I still won 1st try, but due to the aforementioned Iron Tail snipe + Lusamine failing to crit center with her Sync the only team member left standing by the end was H. Viola
He can't stop draining punch my support
And when i finally get to sync, fucking Ariana didn't Crit
My ice team barely made it bc i forgot SS Blue has a reactive passive so no quad for me
and he don't have adr1 since he's only 1/5
Might candy him to 2/5 for HSE 
wait, not sure if i read it correctly
if i already got the rewards from completing a stage in hard mode, i canât get those again in master mode until next week(?)
the completing rewards are first time only
Yes, but you have to play master mode this week too. MM has another system with points where you get even more rewards.
What am i missing with Palmer feel he is useless đ
be sure to turn off standard dmg reduction param first
he is always offtype
and be careful of Crush Grip's scaling too
Yes i am doing and off type parameter
sharing his teammates and gameplay of him will help us a lot to figure the problem
This is what am going for in this fight
2500 off type
Depending on crits with kris and him
And wall from bellelba
Kris really isnât doing much on that team, tbh
Sheâs having to spend 4 turns on setup to not even max her Sync nuke
đ¤ Who would be good replacement?
Would depend a bit on your roster and if youâre dead-set on off-typing with Palmer
Ghetsis would be great here if you didn't use him on Marshal earlier
If Palmerâs not a must here you could do off-type with Kris under Rain and a Support who buffs Krisâ Attack/crit/Speed, for example
If Palmerâs a must then you might be able to do a 2nd Normal-type damage-dealer (depending on who you have) and a Support who handles that 2nd damage-dealerâs buffs
Or there may be an entirely different strategy available with the roster you have
Have him
He is not i just went for physical off type character i hear is OP đ
If you wanna on-type then Ghetsis or a Hala + Candice duo would be good, if you wanna off-type you have SS Lysandre + Rain at your disposal
oh? i didnât know that, might have to try it myself then
In general, completion rewards are almost always a one time thing. Keep that in mind.
Its recommended physical att or ghetsis would be good?
The only thing Shauntal does that hurts Sp. Atk. in any way is -1 at the very start of battle. Easily dealt with via a good Support pick
And r4 parameter that decrease sp?
That just sets Light Screen, which is ignored by critical hits
đ
And since you always want your damage-dealers to crit, the only real effect it has is messing with quadqueue
Also you're going to use double screens by parameters so yeah
Should be fine for 12k right
Off-typing Grimsley?
Falkner
Bellelba
Ghetsis
What do u think?
Probably alright, though Bellelba doesnât contribute a whole lot to the team beyond just being a tank
To make them survive i guess đ
Tbh Iâm actually doubtful about Falknerâs ability to provide buffs fast enough
So if you wanna run double Support youâre probably better off replacing Bellelba with someone who can help speed up those buffs
Or just replacing Falkner with someone who can give +2 Sp. Atk. and +1 crit (or more) with each Trainer Move use (with an MP Refresh if they need 3 uses to max crit)
Lol that was easy đ
He was enough dire hit first then 2 soars then the last dire
While ghetsis kept glaciating them
So finall round
There is a crit hit def sign in the tip section
I better grt someone with defog or just go on as planned?
Was gonna go with this team but depending on iron tail off type parameters
I think on-typing is likely to yield better results
Close combat take away his def đ but okay let's try it
Then i will remove selene right?
Well ideally heâs not getting hit much (if at all)
You can probably keep Selene if you want for her utility aspects (3 guaranteed flinches and constant +1 Defense)
But a Speed buffer would likely be better so Riley gets his Sync maxed faster
Ok ll try
1,600 points for my first time in csmm 𤥠hopefully i can increase that in the near future
Did you follow the preset from pins? Or did you try the challenge by yourself?
We all start somewhere dw about it
Slowly increase those points as comfortable and you'll be doing 15k by no time
Riley close combated them while ss cyrus was singing lullabies đ
Can i ask you a silly question? đ
go for it
I got 12500 and i feel i can go for 15k
If i reset will the end of the week rewards be according to the progress after reset (if i couldn't finish 15k)
Or will it take the higher of them?
i did it myself đŠ
You already got the point rewards
If you go to 15k youâll get the point rewards that are after 12.5k
^^
O wait there is no end of the week rewards? For total points?
First of all congratulations. Second, in pins we have preset option for different milestones. If you follow them along with some basic team building and help from here you can easily score 4.250 points this week. More if you are more dearing.
đ And i was afraid of resets
Nope, point rewards are given the instant you reach the point value
Okay thanks alot
iâll keep that in mind, thanks!
You don't even have to complete the challenge. Just reach the value
Would u change anything for the 15k run?
That depends on your roster and parameters. Probably, teams 2,3,5 can easily do 3k per run. Maybe some small twists here and there.
There are a lot of factors to determine
Such as the team, the parameters using and what round parameter are you at
Who are you going to save for the half sync round?
Yep
New max points I think for me. 19250.
I could have gotten more, but didn't care enough to min/max lol
Fire weak Grimsley:
oh nvm I got the wrong week... mb
I'm still questioning your choice of using a pure fire team on him when SSGio exists
Uh, I just got my first ever 3k win.
Congrats!
Yay! Congrats!
That's 3k for one fight, or for the full clear?
Juste one, the Grimsley one round 1.
Nice, congrats!
Thought he needed special dmg
So i dont understand what would be good to increase to get to the 3 k without ruining my chances đ
Thought there was preset like the other levels
The jump from 2.5k to 3k is dependent on too many variables to create a universal preset
How do I calculate it help me understand the concept please
I went for strength 8 đ
Max hp 8 i mean
I mean it depends
I go for alot of strength and alot of hp
So the jump is different
Because you can pick like say gradual healing
And if you oneshot with sync
Yes I did that hp 8 for 400 and 100 for str
Gradual healing doesnât affect you at all
But if you post sync, gradual healing is awful
Itâs not a binary increase in points to strength
Like maybe ur team doesnât use weather or zone
Rare, but it exists, then you can use that specific condition
Yh my team use weather in 1 team only i guess
And it literally doesnât make it any harder but gives more points, though most people use zone or weather so in those teams your damage is so severely gimped itâs a horrible condition
Point is, we canât give you a general oh this is 20% harder
Cuz it just donât work like that
I am just trying to understand how to calculate like what u said no zone then this would be better than others
If u post sync is it wise to use sync countdown?
Sync countdown in general is dangerous
Even in post sync I would not recommend
Not a presyncer but I believe since they die quickly so long as you accelerate and flinch it can be less bulk
Thatâs amazing for pre sync
Workable for post sync though youâll need experience post syncing for that, attack debuffs and playing around gimmick
I would not take mac hp 8 that makes the opponents really bulky there are some params in pins
Trying to make the extra 500 from 2500 on type
Depends on your strategy opponent etc etc
You would only ever take that many Hp params in a poison stall
Better than p.Dawn lol

But
Optimal partner would be
V thorton for theme skills and whatever
But it doesn't spread aoe so
Funny lion focus blast go brrrr
Me saying in general
I wish we get 4k max 
Youâre insane
20000 is pretty
I appreciate being able to do CS in a single day, thank you very much 
Cs took like
Fr
I like endgame content and even that is too much
In general would mean that you take Hp 8 params across all params and you never want to do that
Solgaleo out here one tapping 
Some more points would not change the outcome by that much
that doubles the enemies hp not including strength params
1k points is some more points thatâs so wild
The actual strength difference would be insane
1k would mean to almost always take every str/atk+def/Hp parameter
Poison stall wouldn't be possible as well
Or at least definitely not easily accesible
Late but baby's first 15k
As soon as I get 20 more 5* tickets Bianca's finally getting the ex she deserves
Oh my b
dw
Tech cake worth it on 1 5 barry sc?
No since at 1/5 Barry sync will not be good even with cake
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