Champion Stadium

[civic crater]

I’ve Got Tricks is also a big bump to May since she struggles to boost herself

[warped jungle]

Can Elio even tank?

[civic crater]

You put the units to sleep

You don’t have to tank if they can’t hit you

But his defenses aren’t awful

[warped jungle]

#1009554906568462476 message

Water units I got

Kiris is pretty high in tier list iirc

Idk how higher that Cyrus tho

[civic crater]

Do you feel like you have to do 3k?

I used Kris/Elio/May personally but my Kris is EX’d and that helped a lot

[warped jungle]

The rewards tho

[civic crater]

As I understand it most of the super important stuff is obtained at 4.2k

[warped jungle]

4.2k? Isn't that too low?

I want the EXballs

I don't have many EX units

[civic crater]

Fair enough

Unfortunately I have to go to sleep hopefully someone else can help

[north crown]

If you're a F2P player, then that's not an issue; you'll soon be gaining way more spirits than you'd ever need.

[warped jungle]

Stilll I wanna atleast get some 😭

[civic crater]

Don’t push yourself too hard, throwing yourself against a brick wall repeatedly is liable to affect your enjoyment of the game

You get some just for doing the stages in general

[warped jungle]

Doing the same stage 50 times does make it super annoying

[north crown]

then just meet in the middle at around 6k. Orbs are way more valuable early game so it's fine. I suggest u not push to 7.5k+ since your roster is lacking

either that or pray SSBlue can hang on for 5 turns via opponent move rng

[warped jungle]

Was last rotation easier?? I easily got 15k last time.

I thought I would finally be able to get all the rewards one xD

[civic crater]

I got 90% of my EX units when 7.5k was the max you could do

So you get them even if you don’t do 15k

And yes Kalos is a lot harder than Johto was

[warped jungle]

Cool. So 1500 point runs or 2500 point runs?

[civic crater]

Legit 1200-1500 is plenty at your point I think

You’ll get resources to develop your roster and be able to do more points in no time

[warped jungle]

aight bet

[lunar rose]

Kalos is hell anyway so no worries if you cant 15k

[civic crater]

And it will still probably feel hard so it’ll still be fun for you

[warped jungle]

#1012311116778586182 message

My units if it helps. EX suggestions too

I EXed SCIrida and Zerena already

[north crown]

If you really want to try pushing, you could EX either SSBlue or ELio, then denying left mon on turn 4.

[warped jungle]

SSBlue is EX

He didnt get a chance to sync coz he dead too fast

[north crown]

could also try MegaBlastoise, Palkia, sleeper/flincher

[warped jungle]

Where the weather gonna come from?

[north crown]

there is none; we compensate by denying their moves.

[warped jungle]

Ohhh okay. So only the middle person get buffs from sun

[north crown]

what

[keen jasper]

Are we talking LG here?

[north crown]

what?

[keen jasper]

I saw the message link and thought

[north crown]

I'm just suggesting some ludicrous strats for Malva

[warped jungle]

The person with Pyroar

[north crown]

nah, I'm suggesting to deny every single goddamn move they use.

That's the only realistic option I can think of with your roster for 3k

[warped jungle]

Ohhh okay.

Got a video that shows how it works? I'll try it.

[north crown]

It's fine if you slashed that goal in half

[north crown]

no; it's theoretical and stupidly reliant on rng, well for a cs round that is.

and I got my hands full with documenting shit in regards to #1012311116778586182

[lean lion]

Does Cyrus have ex and pb?

[warped jungle]

He has EX idk whether he got the PB or not

[keen jasper]

Show the grid please

[keen jasper]

He doesn't have his PB

[warped jungle]

okay

[old orchid]

that's not a Hydro Pump grid

run this instead: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19400/48400?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFHyEjJicoKSorLC0

[grand harbor]

Would SS misty help against glaci?

[old orchid]

if you want to use a spdef buffer, OG Misty is better

[grand harbor]

I really cant come close to beating her

[old orchid]

what team are you using?

[grand harbor]

Trying different setups

But usually around cyrus or giovani

Cyrus
Winona
Roxane

Is the latest trial

[old orchid]

Roxanne is not a good tank against special heavy opponents

is Cyrus gridded with Critical Focus and Ramming Speed?

[grand harbor]

But buffing cyrus without heals makes him evaporate 😂

[grand harbor]

No this grid

[old orchid]

that's not the ideal grid for him in a critless support comp

[grand harbor]

Okay then wiol reset it 😅

[old orchid]

can you send your roster again? it will be helpful if you have some time to use the sync pair tracker for better understanding

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[grand harbor]

Okay will set it up

[old orchid]

can you try Sycamore, SS Lysandre and Winona?

[grand harbor]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

How to save the progress..

?

To share with you

[old orchid]

watch the tutorial carefully

[grand harbor]

Any way to save the progress so i dont have to select the 125 from the start next time?

[grand harbor]

Figured it out thats a great tool

So this is my roster hope its easier for u this way sorry for giving you hard time before 😅

And these are the parameters

[grand harbor]

Any help? 😅

[keen jasper]

It'd be nice if you can show the proper move level too

[grand harbor]

😅Okay will adjust

[grand harbor]

Here updated move levels

[keen jasper]

What's your fight again?

[grand harbor]

Glaci MM

[keen jasper]

What round?

[old orchid]

that is a bad selection of params

we have guide on choosing params in the pins here

[mellow linden]

You should pretty much always avoid the -Sync Countdown parameters

For offensive clears the opponent shouldn’t be Syncing more than once (and on pre-Sync clears not at all) and for Poison stall you want the opponent to Sync as few times as possible

[grand harbor]

Ll change the parameters

And the team?

🤔 So i set the team first then the parameters or the opposite?

I am checking tbe giude now but I want to know which ones will suite my team?

[onyx ice]

Standard damage reduction are like 300 free points if you use super effective units

Physical/special damage reduction are another 100 free points if you don't go mixed

The physical and special damage shields are also 50+50 free points since crit ignore damage shields so as long as you have Max crit you only have to worry about sync and max moves not critting

Strength is overall better than mixing attack and hp/defense, but not that great if you want to focus on either offense or defense

[grand trout]

Don't forget the role more damage ones

If you're not using, say, a striker pick that

[onyx ice]

Yes those are free too, same for interference and status

At least if you aren't using them

Sync buff is also free if you do presync

[mellow linden]

A quick overview of the parameter recommendations in the pins (I’d recommend doing 850 points per stage for now since you’re new to Master Mode):

• On-type: Your damage-dealer(s) will use supereffective attacks.
• Off-type: Your damage-dealer(s) will use non-supereffective attacks.
• Pre-Sync: You need to KO the center opponent before they use their Sync Move.
• Post-Sync: You don’t care whether the opponent gets their Sync Move (though they shouldn’t be getting more than 1).
• Poison Stall: You’re utilizing Poison and a lot of team survivability to outlast the opponent as they go down to DoT.

[grand harbor]

Yh now i get it

🤔 So i guess my team will be off type either way

Presync is not an option with the remaining pairs😅

So i will be either post sync or off dmg

Cyrus and palika or giovani? As DD

[grand harbor]

This is my roster

If u suggest other DD

Another question so if i want to go for 850

I stop at after 100s section or what as the guide show total 2500 point

[grand harbor]

The 2500 parameters wiped me out in 2 moves 😅

[grand harbor]

Not working at all

[grand steppe]

gauge looks tricky there

any recording?

[grand harbor]

Okay ll record

I know i used a 2nd rainy dance early by mistake but it wouldn't matter, 😅

[grand steppe]

You seemed to have turned off the ability to sleep the opp.

Is the Winona gridded?

[left storm]

I think their elio can't have troublemaker at the moment

[grand harbor]

No

Only cyrus is gridded

[left storm]

Because they have no cookies

So sing is kinda off the table

Unless it's just for sync cd

[grand harbor]

I turned off the interference i guess

[grand steppe]

Nah it says "Froslass cannot fall asleep" so it did hit, it just failed because of the param

[left storm]

You should also not queue before syncing, as it lets opponent act

[grand harbor]

Yh i messed up this part but i knew it will fail anyway 😅

[grand steppe]

Elio is a bit too gauge heavy for that team.

[grand harbor]

I tried replacing him with other tanks but non worked idk how to solve this one

[grand steppe]

I do suggest changing the initial move order.

Attack with Spacial Rend off the bat > X. Sp.Def All > Winona TM
Spacial Rend > X Sp. Def All > Winona Air Slash

[noble plaza]

i do have sp. dmg reduction 😭

I'm trying to beat it with Silver (EX and PB'd), Egg Ninetales, and a tank. I tried Hop first but that's currently not going super well

[grand harbor]

Okay will try that
U focus center or sides?

And no buffing from new world?

That order did well but sides aoe attacks are too powerful should i finish them first?

[grand steppe]

if Elio is there, you only need need to click NWO once

cause elio buffs S.Atk and Speed

[grand harbor]

Okay leta try

And focus center or sides too?

[grand steppe]

instead of syncing with cyrus, i'd sync with Elio. Or Winona (if you have Shower Sync)

they won't do much damage, but it allows Cyrus to continue to use Hydro Pump which guarantees crit

[grand harbor]

👌 Good plan

But his sync makes critting more easy i guess?

[grand steppe]

Right, this is true for cyrus.

The gauge becomes really tricky when juggling two interuptors.

[grand harbor]

Aha

[grand steppe]

Might want to try staggering, as she's pretty high damage if you get hit twice.

[noble plaza]

do you mean flinching?

[grand steppe]

flinch, sleep, freeze

[noble plaza]

ah

I already used Hilbert and Morty, my only ex'd supports with flinch

I could do Falkner or Lodge Blue, maybe Melony or Elio?

although I would still like to burn

wait falkner isn't a good idea, he is weak to ice

[grand harbor]

ANNOYING aoe finish my team after center faints

[grand harbor]

Should i focus griding elio or winona maybe it helps

[grand harbor]

Elio and grid to SA lowering sp def?

[civic crater]

That’s a lot of gauge to need

I probably wouldn’t

[grand steppe]

when in doubt poison stall

https://youtu.be/xEtpaglOZGY

[covert badger]

beat it at 14500, ty!

[dim depot]

So this week, Drasna is giving me trouble on round 4. Diantha/Gardevoir is my best Fairy striker but she's become obsolete.

Not doing neat enough damage. Opponent sync is of course an instant lose. And opponent Dragon Rush is an instant delete on any target.

[old orchid]

Diantha, Volo and a strong tank

even BP Valerie works instead of Diantha

[dim depot]

But how? I have a hard time imagining that team even winning with all the parameters off

[old orchid]

they shouldn't struggle to clear, especially with Fairy Zone

Drasna hits decently hard, hence i recommended a strong tank

[dim depot]

It's really close. Just down to better RNG

[nocturne pawn]

who is syncing first

cuz i dont think you should be seeing post sync with diantha

[manic kiln]

Tbh it’s better to do zoneless here, they’re fighting for sync, you can’t get 2 zones anyway

[undone ether]

Hum i used volo with infinite field effects perk.

Having all of the fields that volo spits out is really nice

[old orchid]

i was thinking of syncing with Volo first, then save B Metronome until Dragon Wish to boost Diantha's sync and the next Moonblast which requires insta queue

[undone ether]

Oh i went with penny sync first and then sync'd with volo to override dragon zone.

[dim depot]

Jasmine, then Diantha. Could also go Volo second to clear zone, but then I don't know if zone is enough to carry the win from there. Diantha sync is certainly not taking out anyone

[old orchid]

how about you trying this? or sync with Diantha first, then Volo second

[nocturne pawn]

diantha needs first sync

[dim depot]

Oh right, Mega Gardevoir

[nocturne pawn]

yeah it shouldnt really be rng tbh

[dim depot]

Well it turned out to be. I didn't get flinched this time.

Turns out clearing Dragon Zone doesn't really matter in terms of survivability anyway

[rose ermine]

Am i good for special csmm?11k left and 15k right

[steel kelp]

Ethan is deadweight

And Aaron is questionable unless you’re doing blitz over blast

[old orchid]

Red has Haymaker so it makes sense

Sabrina carrying 2 deadweights tho

[steel kelp]

Hilda herself is a free clear

[old orchid]

Sycamore and Silver fight for sync on Koga team

[rose ermine]

Calem+ethan has worked for me before on csmm 3k

So hoping it works this time

And uhh sycamore...

Replace for it ssb?

I only care for mga

[steel kelp]

Just bring a speed buffer

[old orchid]

Silvers just wants someone to max his offensive stats and max speed

SS Blue is slow at buffing and again, fight with Silver for sync

[rose ermine]

FCait

Maxes out silver's attack and speed

With defensive buffa

[old orchid]

Then Silver doesn't have +3 crit buff for first sync, which potentially denies the left side

Hilbert + a sun setter works better

[grand harbor]

Gakon would you give me advice please on how to beat glaci?

[old orchid]

what team are you trying to do?

[keen jasper]

The most important thing for fire-weak Glacia is that you must replace hail for sun and buff your Sp. Def. as much as possible since she does a lot of AoE attacks

[rose ermine]

Stuck on grimsley 2k

[old orchid]

remove some attack params and pick strength 6

[old orchid]

replace Elio with Roxanne, Cyrus with SS Lysandre and grid Winona with Aggravation 1 tile

[grand harbor]

Lysandre not available

Roxane dies in 2 hits

[old orchid]

looks like NC Silver works best here

so him, Misty & Starmie and Kukui

[grand harbor]

Not available 😢

She is last of e4

[old orchid]

is Skyla still available?

[grand harbor]

The unavailable units

[rose ermine]

Even worse

[old orchid]

hmm Bugsy looks redundant here

replace him with another DPSer or nuker

[rose ermine]

Sslusamine?

She's 1/5 EXR

[left storm]

You got no decent poison unit?

[grand harbor]

What do u think

[rose ermine]

Koga?

[hallow star]

Tried to do full on type run but it didn't work out

[undone ether]

a clear's a clear o-o

third anniversary lined up to beat Glacia's lights out rofl. nice

that round 2 though, 3 supports? D:? Interesting

[hallow star]

Burn team

[undone ether]

gotcha

15k or nah?

[hallow star]

It was a 15k run, I tried to on-type glacia many times but it didn't work

[undone ether]

R4 was Special Damage Up Right? she's basically given maximum damage modifiers tbh.

yeah, you basically put her in a position to just blizzard your entire team to bits xd

[hallow star]

Now I feel more stupid hahah

[undone ether]

But anyways, a clear's a clear, just be mindful of your round conditions.

[grand harbor]

Would this team be better?

Than this

For glaci

[old orchid]

Have you planned anything for the champion battle?

The info about the stage is in the pins, like usual

[grand harbor]

Yh planning to change the eather to sunny

Weather *

Then using fire moves

The other team i simply raise sp def and crit eith cyrus

With*

But it's not enough so far

Fire team failed. Hard 😅

If only i knew making glaci r4 would make me suffer

[grand harbor]

Finally did it after griding elio a little

Lol red need att and sp att down

Both!

[swift swan]

Updated with the special CS

[mellow linden]

Red doesn’t buff his offenses until right before he Syncs, so if you pre-Sync (not hard if your damage-dealer is Fire and you brought Sun) you don’t need to worry about those debuffs

[rose ermine]

She 2 shot me

[silver dirge]

Is this round 4?

[rose ermine]

Yes

[swift swan]

Wheeze

[silver dirge]

Figured

[rose ermine]

I thought I'd use it to my advantage completely forgetting how fucking stupid glacia is 😭

[silver dirge]

It's time for some denials

[swift swan]

Deny the blizzard or pray she doesn't use it at all

That's all you can do

[rose ermine]

Wallace is a UNIT

He got supereffective up effect too and 4 SMUN

[grand harbor]

Would the team work?

[nocturne pawn]

if you level blaine

[grand harbor]

Yh blaine is 125 now

And evolved

But idk why ho oh doesnt deal dmg

[old orchid]

probably non crit

[nocturne pawn]

hes a lot better with power boost

[old orchid]

make sure sun is up when he is about to attack

SS Blue is not really good as an offensive support

[grand harbor]

Yh put rosa instead

What do u think?

[old orchid]

Rosa might be a good spdef tank, but she doesn't help her teammates survive longer

[grand harbor]

Hop and zama?

O wait i f9rgot i was saving my best squad for him

Silver and riley and hop

Ok failed with them hard 😅

[swift swan]

Riley? What's Riley for

[grand harbor]

Sync move quickly to use massive rock slide

[swift swan]

Oh, NC Silver

[swift swan]

Idk this team should work just fine

[grand harbor]

🤔 OK ll try ho oh again

[swift swan]

Make sure silver has his nuke grid

Make sure sun is up

SS Blue is pretty slow at buffing though, and if your silver isn't powerboosted, he needs help with fast attack buffs

[grand harbor]

Yeah need to grid him first

Who to get as tank then?

[obtuse rapids]

I just wanted to pop in real quick and say thanks to the helpers on this channel specifically. I mostly just lurk and read y'all's advice. Ive actually been able to start taking on CSMM 12.5 and 15K recently and it's made the game so much more fun. Everyone sharing advice and input here is appreciated 🙂

[grand harbor]

So true

[grand harbor]

What do u think of tina instead of blue?

This a better team for red cs?

[swift swan]

Mmm

[grand harbor]

Or this

[swift swan]

Do you have 3/5 Hilbert

[swift swan]

I mean this is worth a try, just remember to adjust your params

[old orchid]

can you try using OG Misty instead of Hop?

yeah try the team out first

i thought you couldn't clear with that team

[grand harbor]

Couldn't clear with ss Blue

[grand harbor]

🤔 Which version?

[swift swan]

Samurott

[swift swan]

Because he's a bit slow at buffing. Plus he fights for sync with Silver

[grand harbor]

Unfortunately dont have it

[swift swan]

How about sonia

[grand harbor]

Okay will try her

[grand harbor]

Dont have her too :/

[grand harbor]

Wouldnt ss misty be better as she removes buffs?

[swift swan]

She can't tank

[old orchid]

OG Misty has better stats and can give gradual healing effect to teammates

[grand harbor]

Oh right she is a tech not supp

Okay then lets try OG misty

[swift swan]

Alright. Then I would try Maylene but she needs her grid for TM Pep Rally

[mellow linden]

How many points are you going for, and what parameters are you using?

[old orchid]

Why do you pick physical dmg reduction when you are using physical dmg dealers?

[mellow linden]

The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction are a free 100 points total as long as your team is well built

Meanwhile, the 100-point Physical Damage Reduction 8 completely destroys your ability to deal meaningful damage since you’re using physical damage-dealers

PDR8 is 100% the reason you’re failing

A brief rundown of what the different Damage Reduction parameters do:

• Physical Damage Reduction (50 points): Sets a permanent Reflect on the opponents’ side of the field (Reflect is ignored by critical hits).
• Special Damage Reduction (50 points): Sets a permanent Light Screen on the opponents’ side of the field (Light Screen is ignored by critical hits).
• Physical Damage Reduction 8 (100 points): Reduces all physical damage the opponents take by 80% (this is not ignored by critical hits).
• Special Damage Reduction 8 (100 points): Reduces all special damage the opponents take by 80% (this is not ignored by critical hits).
• Standard Damage Reduction 8 (300 points): Reduces all non-supereffective damage the opponents take by 80% (this is not ignored by critical hits).

[grand harbor]

I am using sp dmg reduction

O wait i forgot to change the 100 pts one

Ez clear with the main team

One should take care of all the parameters to not spend all day trying to beat a champion 😂

[wary fulcrum]

Hey guys, what supp is better here?

Its siebold

[north crown]

Ampharos or MegaBastoise would be my guess

[steel kelp]

Hilbert and alder is asking a lot of gauge

[wary fulcrum]

Hilbert with Alder work together, or maybe replace one of them?

[sharp willow]

they work reasonably well, though gauge support becomes pretty mandatory for that team

[north crown]

yeah..... it's very hard to find a team that solves both crit+speed buffs (crit is for setting up faster)

[dim depot]

Stuck on Glacia round 3 for the special CS. All those AOE attacks hit hard and I can't survive the second opponent sync. What do I do considering the remaining opponents?

[undone ether]

you need to change the weather immediately otherwise, hail gives her (and her team) buffs

I see SS Morty, that could help there, unless you're going to use SS Morty elsewhere

[dim depot]

Well, hopefully I don't regret spending him here

[undone ether]

Round 3 should be stat debuffs are greater right?

[dim depot]

Yeah

[old orchid]

Have you preserved a sun setter for Champion fight? Assuming you are gonna fight Red ontype

[dim depot]

Still got NC Leaf as a last resort

[old orchid]

so it's not a concern, feel free to use SS Morty now

[dim depot]

Now, instead of Elio, or in addition?

[old orchid]

replace Elio

[dim depot]

ok

Dang that was hard

[old orchid]

average Glacia experience

[dim depot]

Oh. Grimsley looks like it might be annoying. Max attack boosted sync means I can't post-sync

[undone ether]

Tina can drop ATK with Charm and can do Scorching Touch

Since it Special Attack buffed for Round 4, i think you could do SS Red there

[dim depot]

I was trying ss red lol

But yeah, he's taking 1k damage on sync. Hard to see him survive that

[old orchid]

what team are you using?

[dim depot]

I tried Morty/Mismagius, MC Torchic, and SS Red

[old orchid]

Morty is Dark weak, not really ideal

do you have SS Acerola?

or Gordie

[dim depot]

Ooh Gordie would be nice for the rebuff

I went with the more expensive SS Hilbert. A weird team comp but it somehow worked.

But man, I should have paid more attention. SS Red is way better in the sun, which Gordie can also set. Hmm, for next time...

[swift swan]

Fire types are always better in the sun

[dim depot]

I was being too stingy

And that's a wrap. Thanks for the help!

[tulip python]

So what’s the ideal order for NC stadium this round? All these guys seem fairly Tanky

And I have to save Moltres and Morty for Red probably ☠️

[old orchid]

No need to save 2 sun setters on a stage which only setup hail once

[old orchid]

Just avoid Glacia on R4

[tulip python]

Gtk

[tulip python]

Ah

[tulip python]

Alright I murdered Glacia and Molyene both off type

Now I have Koga and Grimsley

Both of whom are resisting my shenanigans

Articuno as strong as it is, isn’t doing as much as I feel it ought to

For off type with Glacion boost

[silver dirge]

Can we see the parameters

[tulip python]

Sure

That’s the offtype one

[silver dirge]

Melony ain't doing much there apart from eating your gauges, consider someone like Dana for Ice Teamwork or just a Sinnoh/Kanto support to boost one of the MPs

Those parameters don't have Special Dmg Reduction (50) - which is bypassed by crits.

You've also got way too much HP, on top of strength

[tulip python]

This is on type which has gotten close

[silver dirge]

those are much better

[tulip python]

I thought she was used for the defense and then sing spam?

[silver dirge]

Sure but you've already got denials with NC Red

[tulip python]

Good point

Usually with these tougher ones, I do the support sync first

[silver dirge]

You should yes

[tulip python]

Probably need to adjust the pairs then; had Anni N, Aura Cynth to tank, and Celebi for trap/flinch on Koga

For on type

But might have to use Morty to give N the sun boost damage

Moltres and SS Red ought to be for NC Red fight, but that does limit me for the second to late

[silver dirge]

Bring a support to setup N faster over SSA Cynthia, and instead of Lyra bring someone to enhance his damage (sun)

[grand harbor]

So guys after completing cs this week what should I do till refresh 😅

[old orchid]

Do other content then, focus on grinding both Unova Villain events first

[grand harbor]

The villain event isndont and boosted him

[steel kelp]

Touch grass

[undone ether]

if you're up for it, you could try different teams

[keen jasper]

Have you done things like rally and the Unova villain event?

[grand harbor]

Yes finished the villa and doing the rally now

[keen jasper]

If you need help in rally, just go to #1009564564821639379

[old orchid]

Prioritize clearing both Unova villain events first when you have stamina to get boosts for Ghetsis. And we should move to #poma-questions for further discussion

This channel is for questions and helping for Champion Stadium content

[vapid notch]

why is glacia so hard

[mellow linden]

The main thing with Fire weak Glacia is that you need to replace her Hail with a different weather (Sun, Rain, or Sandstorm). She gets massive boosts if you don’t

Other than that, while there’s an element of hoping she doesn’t decide to spam Blizzard, it would mainly be down to your team and parameters

[vapid notch]

i am but all her moves are AOE and her partners to,

[mellow linden]

She has single-target moves

[vapid notch]

psychic and draining kiss

[mellow linden]

If she decides to spam AoE then restart the fight. Resetting is a natural part of CS, especially on high point value Master Mode

[keen jasper]

Are you buffing your team's Sp. Def.?

[mellow linden]

Glacia is just one of those stages that can wake up and choose violence, unfortunately, so resets are more common with her

[sharp willow]

Shes designed in a way that makes her stronger than the other elite 4 fights for the special CS since her fights released significantly later

[mellow linden]

Depending on your team and parameters there may be ways to increase odds of success via adjustments you can make, as well

[keen jasper]

The fight is prolly meant for SS Morty since he can AoE buff Sp. Def. and constantly heal your team

[vapid notch]

yes with lapras

[mellow linden]

What’s your full team?

[keen jasper]

And did you use G-Max Resonance?

[vapid notch]

full team is, Lapras, Anni N, Rapidash

my go too is sunny day, noble roar, sing

[keen jasper]

Only problem is the lack of healing on that team

[mellow linden]

To be 100% honest, you may want to consider bringing Anniversary N to a different stage and having someone who can more quickly start outputting big damage go up against Glacia

[vapid notch]

3/5 lapras has team gradual healing post sync but do i want to invest the candy in her cuz i dont have enough tickets to pull my last copy of her

[mellow linden]

Don’t candy gen pool pairs

[vapid notch]

im on the 3rd stage where lowering stats are helpful cuz, stage 2 was great for traping moves

[mellow linden]

Don’t try to shoehorn in the round parameters

The majority of them aren’t actually that impactful

[keen jasper]

I'd rather replace Melony for a Sp. Def. buffer with Potions

[vapid notch]

i have ss leaf, but i was saving her for the last stage

[keen jasper]

Poison stall?

[vapid notch]

such as?

[vapid notch]

i could poison stall with erika

[mellow linden]

Do you mean NC Leaf + Moltres instead of SS Leaf + Venusaur?

[vapid notch]

yeah my bad

[mellow linden]

Who were you planning to use on Round 4, btw?

[keen jasper]

She's kind of your wild card here

[mellow linden]

You may be able to bring them to the Glacia fight here and shift Anniversary N to Round 4 to take the place of the team you were going to use

[vapid notch]

probably ethan and typhlosion or Red and charizard(but he seems pretty underwhelming to me)

i also have turnator and volcanion 1/5

[mellow linden]

What Move Level is SS Red?

[vapid notch]

1/5

whos an SPD booster with potions?

[mellow linden]

Skyla comes to mind

Oh wait, Sp. Def.

Not Speed

BP Morty comes to mind for Sp. Def. + Potion

[vapid notch]

morty for sure

[keen jasper]

Cheryl has good special bulk along with defensive buffs and heal

[mellow linden]

You could try off-typing Glacia with SS Lysandre on a Rain team

And see how that goes

[vapid notch]

intresting

[vapid notch]

who is cheryl mon

[keen jasper]

Blissey

[mellow linden]

The important thing is removing Hail, it doesn’t really matter which weather replaces it (Sun is just the most obvious choice because Fire weakness)

[vapid notch]

i tried bp entei cuz of team fist bump, that was hell

[keen jasper]

It's not even guaranteed anyways

[iron mist]

Trying to Poison Stall, I get team to +6 Def/Sp Def by first sync and then enemies to -6 Atk/Sp Atk/Spd by second sync, but still barely die before Noivern dies. Any suggestions of who to switch around? I got dragon guard on vespiquen just for this

[keen jasper]

Your team has no source of healing besides Aaron's Heal Order. Do you have Misty/Psyduck?

[old orchid]

You need to change Dragon Zone

[vapid notch]

replace seviper with a better posidon unit like erika and tangela so u can infestation as well or koga and crobat cuz he can incease evasiveness

[mellow linden]

Could try off-typing Drasna depending on your options if on-typing and Poison stall are too hard

[mellow linden]

Lucy also inflicts Trap

She’s about equal to BP Erika when it comes to Poison stall

[keen jasper]

Drasna has lesser offensive debuff mitigation

[nocturne pawn]

lucy isnt the problem but drasna specifically punishes post sync

since she sets dragon zone and has multipliers for it

[keen jasper]

TBH, Drasna's Dragon Rush hurts the most here, so bringing Darach wouldn't be a bad idea

[silver dirge]

This is a strange aspect to hyper focus on and something we usually advise against

Like Taiyo said Drasna is quite punishing post sync

[nocturne pawn]

theres always a couple of stages that will absolutely destroy you post sync if you’re not ready for it

iirc like in unova CS theres a shauntal stage that will set sunny day post sync and spam boosted overheat

[vapid notch]

got it done SS Mina, Anni N, Lyra

[iron mist]

I think what could save me here is healing, Drasna has piercing gaze so evasiveness is out of the question. Any Atk/Sp Atk debuffers that have healing too?

[vapid notch]

are hell bent on poison stall, i would do BP erika, misty psyduck, ariados

or you can replace ariados with lapras

[full mesa]

You can't. Jasmine is a must in that team. Drops att/spa 100% accurate if poison or badly poison

[mellow linden]

Janine, not Jasmine

But yeah, Melony is 100% worse than Janine in a Poison stall team

Also BP Morty is better for Poison stall than Misty + Psyduck (assuming equivalent investment) because he doesn’t need to get any MP Refreshes to reach +4 in both defenses (which is like, the minimum needed for Poison stall)

Plus he can confuse the opponents for potential free turns of DoT damage

[grand trout]

@dusty blade what's your glacia team

[dusty blade]

smorty hilda and blaine

[keen jasper]

SS Morty right?

[dusty blade]

ye

[keen jasper]

Then why need Blaine?

[dusty blade]

extra sun

[keen jasper]

SS Morty has 2 uses by default

[mellow linden]

You don’t need more than 2 uses for Glacia

[keen jasper]

Like all Sunny Day users

Don't need another one

[dusty blade]

i know that

[keen jasper]

But why need another one?

[dusty blade]

mine expire rq

mebe im timing wrong?

[keen jasper]

You have to use it again after she uses Hail before her 1st sync

Use Sunny Day before you nuke

[mellow linden]

Yeah, it’s less about general Sun uptime and more that the main purpose of bringing Sun to Glacia is to remove her Hail

[dusty blade]

ye i use it at the start

to replace hail

[keen jasper]

But what about before you nuke?

[mellow linden]

You can just set it once to remove entry Hail and save the 2nd use to use right after the Hail move

[dusty blade]

what

[keen jasper]

Before you use your main damage dealer's sync move

She uses Hail 1 turn before her sync

[dusty blade]

well duh

[mellow linden]

Which Hilda is this, btw?

[dusty blade]

idk now ur confusing me

my nuke and her sync are 2 diff times

[dusty blade]

hilda emboar

ex 5/5

running full nuke

?

[mellow linden]

Assuming you quadqueue Glacia will end up setting Hail right before your 2nd Sync goes off, so what you can do is instead of doing the normal Sync queueing you queue Sunny Day and then the Sync

[keen jasper]

Before Glacia does her 1st sync, she will use Hail to not only screw you over, but also to make herself hit harder

[mellow linden]

That way it goes Hail -> Sunny Day -> damage-dealer Sync

[keen jasper]

If you want a demonstration, then sure

[mellow linden]

If you don’t quadqueue then just save your 2nd Sunny Day use for after Glacia uses Hail and you’re fine

[dusty blade]

oohhhhh i understand now thanks cobalt steel 👍 so when im abt to sync she set hail so i need to set sun to replace that and then sync asap?

[keen jasper]

Exactly

[mellow linden]

Yeah, when your 2nd Sync is ready you’d queue Sunny Day -> Sync so that Hilda Syncs under Sun instead of Hail

[dusty blade]

got it

ill try

im doing 1.5k pts rn

[keen jasper]

Replace Blaine

[mellow linden]

And Hilda should just destroy Glacia + sides with her Sync under Sun, so you can easily just use Sunny Day as a Hail remover instead of the normal usage

[dusty blade]

just some strength parameters and the ones i dont need

[mellow linden]

And yeah, swap Blaine for someone else. 2nd damage-dealer, Defense debuffer, etc.

[dusty blade]

i c

who would u suggest?

[keen jasper]

As Cobalt mentioned above

[dusty blade]

ye i can read bro u always drop unhelpful comments on me 👎 im asking for an example i think colress would work?

[keen jasper]

He can

Since he even has Ripple Effect 9 for -2 AoE defense drops

[dusty blade]

mines 1/5

[keen jasper]

Still works

He can be used for dropping defenses

And maybe drop accuracy so that the sides' Blizzard and Icy Wind has a chance to miss

[dusty blade]

so i should mirror shot?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[silver dirge]

No you should not

Just use Screech

Relying on accuracy debuffing isn't necessary

And obviously quite RNG

[keen jasper]

Another question, is your Hilda EX-ed?

[dusty blade]

thought so

[mellow linden]

I assume Caster meant Mirror Shot once the opponents are at -6 Defense

[keen jasper]

That's what I meant, but if their Hilda is EX-ed, then Mirror Shot is unnecessary

[dusty blade]

?

what does ex hilda have to do with it

i dont wanna rely on rng

well theres always some. but like not evasion hax

[silver dirge]

Yea that's fine, so long as you have decent parameters Colress + SS Morty + Hilda should do the trick pretty smoothly

[keen jasper]

If she's EX-ed, then you won't have to worry about the sides. If not, then you might have to heal a lot because of the sides spamming AoEs

[dusty blade]

i said above shes 5/5 ex

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, forgive me

I didn't see

[dusty blade]

okie tysm arch and cobalt

[grand trout]

Good luck arid!

[dusty blade]

[grand trout]

Blast that glacia down

Or should i say burn

[dusty blade]

i also might need help with drasna on reg cs 😭

shes so bulky

[grand trout]

Sure what team are you using

As well as params

[dusty blade]

letme do this rq

then ill see

[grand trout]

Aight

[keen jasper]

Do you have egg Sylveon from the 2023 Eevee Day egg event?

[dusty blade]

LESSGOOO i beat that old woman thx guys

[grand trout]

Old woman 😭

[vapid notch]

what presets should i use for poison stall im missing 500 points cuz the table above only gives 2500

[mellow linden]

The remaining 500 will to an extent have some variation based on your team, but in general you should avoid the following:

• Parameters that reduce the opponents’ Sync Countdown.
• Parameters that multiply the opponents’ Attack and Sp. Atk.
• Parameters that multiply the opponents’ damage

Some safer picks are the Strength parameters, as while those will increase the opponents’ Attack and Sp. Atk., it’s a flat increase and not a multiplier. But those are far from the only picks, and you should try to experiment a bit and see what works for you

[fiery canopy]

should i use ss acerola for sun when using silver or is blaine enough

[mellow linden]

Blaine is enough for purely setting Sun, Acerola can help with most of Silver’s buffs and provide Physical Up alongside Sun if you want though

[vapid notch]

is there a Sp. Def buffer that buff attack?

[cinder summit]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | All allies Attack Up
2: An opponent Special Defense Down‎

------------------------------

Allister & Gengar
‎　⤷Max Knuckle, Shadow Ball
Elio & Primarina
‎　⤷We’ve Got Tricks!
‎　⤷Sparkling Aria: Mind Games 4
Emma & Crobat
‎　⤷Here We Go!
‎　⤷Ruthless Toxin 9
Hilda (Summer 2022) & Grapploct
‎　⤷Team Beef Up 9, Flag Bearer 9, Bamboozling Retaliation 9
Kiawe & Marowak
‎　⤷Dancing Fever!
‎　⤷Unfortuitous 4
Lenora & Watchog
‎　⤷Hit: Team Attack ↑ 9, Use Status P-Move on Opp: Sp. Def ↓ 9
Liza & Lunatone
‎　⤷Of One Mind!, Psychic
Lyra & Meganium
‎　⤷Sunny Side Up!, Energy Ball
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Renegade) & Giratina
‎　⤷Shadow Ball
‎　⤷Ghost Wish: Group Pep Talk 4, Sundering 9

‎

Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt) & Pikachu
‎　⤷Spark of Victory!, Origin Volt Tackle
Sygna Suit Steven & Deoxys
‎　⤷Defend!
‎　⤷Mind Games 9
Tate (Summer 2023) & Jirachi
‎　⤷Flash Cannon
‎　⤷Use Doom Desire: Team Same Stat ↑2, Team Lucky Entry 1, Use Doom Desire: Team Same Stat ↑, Wish upon a Star!: Shared Fortune 2, P-Move on Opp: Sp. Def ↓2 9

[old orchid]

Do you have Palentine's Dawn?

[tired sleet]

They said buffer, not debuffer

[old orchid]

reading issue smh

[cinder summit]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | All allies Attack Up
2: All allies Special Defense Up‎

------------------------------

Aaron & Vespiquen
‎　⤷Cool, Right?!, Defend Order
‎　⤷Team Full-Bracing Infliction 1
Anabel & Snorlax
‎　⤷Requesting Backup!
‎　⤷Team Limited Addition (Sp. Def) 9
Argenta & Skarmory
‎　⤷Metal Claw, Swords Dance
‎　⤷MAX Barricade Buddies 2
Ball Guy & Amoonguss
‎　⤷Team Hit Me Up 9, Team Hit Me Up 9, On the Ball!: Team Randomizer’s Raise 9
Bede (Champion) & Articuno
‎　⤷Triumphant Tenacity!, Intimidating Freezing Glare
‎　⤷Intimidating Freezing Glare: Barricade Buddies 1
Burgh (Spring 2021) & Togepi
‎　⤷Happy Colors!
‎　⤷Team Supercharger 5, Team Fierce Entry 1
Caitlin (Fall 2021) & Sableye
‎　⤷Tricksy!, X Sp. Def All
Calem (Champion) & Greninja
‎　⤷Glory of Understanding!
‎　⤷Group Fortification 9

‎

Elaine & Eevee
‎　⤷Let’s Go Together!: Move: Team Attack ↑ & Sp. Atk ↑ 9, Let’s Go Together!: Barricade Buddies 2
Elio & Primarina
‎　⤷We’ve Got Tricks!, X Sp. Def All
Erika (Holiday 2020) & Comfey
‎　⤷Lei Up!: Shared Fortune 2
Falkner & Noctowl
‎　⤷We Can Still Fly!
‎　⤷Hit: Team Attack ↑ 9
Gladion & Golbat
‎　⤷X Attack All, I’ll Protect You!
Grusha & Cetitan
‎　⤷Let’s Cool Down!
‎　⤷Team Fierce Entry 2
Hilda (Summer 2022) & Grapploct
‎　⤷Get Gutsy!
‎　⤷Team Beef Up 9, Flag Bearer 9
Leaf & Clefable
‎　⤷Hit ’Em with Love!
‎　⤷Hit ’Em with Love!: Full-Bracing Command 9

‎

Leaf & Eevee
‎　⤷Let’s Go!, Endless Possibilities Extreme Evoboost
‎　⤷Let’s Go!: Berserk Bunch 1, Let’s Go!: Barricade Buddies 1
Lenora & Watchog
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
‎　⤷Hit: Team Attack ↑ 9
Liza & Lunatone
‎　⤷Of One Mind!, X Sp. Def All
Lyra & Meganium
‎　⤷Sunny Side Up!
‎　⤷Light Screen: Force Field 4
Lyra (Special Costume) & Phanpy
‎　⤷Initiate Infiltration!
‎　⤷Team Beef Up 9, Initiate Infiltration!: Berserk Bunch 1, Team Wise Entry 2
Paulo & Lycanroc
‎　⤷Willful Howl
Phoebe (Fall 2023) & Cofagrigus
‎　⤷It’s Lively Now!
‎　⤷Hit: Team Attack ↑ & Sp. Atk ↑ 9, Group Gloat 9
Player & Alcremie ( Support)
‎　⤷Whip It Up!
‎　⤷Whip It Up!: Berserk Bunch 1

‎

Professor Sycamore & Xerneas
‎　⤷Gentlemanly Geomancy
‎　⤷Team Shout 4, Team Beef Up 4, Force Field 1
Red & Snorlax
‎　⤷Max Knuckle
‎　⤷Flag Bearer 3, Group Moral Support 4
Rosa (Holiday 2019) & Delibird
‎　⤷X Attack All, All the Presents!
‎　⤷All the Presents!: Shared Fortune 2
Sawyer & Honchkrow
‎　⤷Forever Loyal!
‎　⤷Flag Bearer 1, Team Mind Brace 2
Selene & Umbreon
‎　⤷Full of Energy!
Shauna & Chesnaught
‎　⤷Off We Go!
‎　⤷Team Dauntless Defender 9, Team Wise Entry 1
Shauna (Special Costume) & Klefki
‎　⤷Team Stat Steal 9, Team Stat Steal 4, Team Gimme Five 1, Team Fierce Entry 1
Skyla (Holiday 2020) & Togekiss
‎　⤷Gift of Joy!
‎　⤷Team Lucky Entry 1

‎

Sygna Suit Blue & Blastoise
‎　⤷Team Shout 9, Team Fierce Entry 1, Force Field 4
Sygna Suit Morty & Ho-Oh
‎　⤷Believe!
‎　⤷Group Afflicter’s Advantage 1, Team Gimme Five 1, Sunny Day: Team Mind-Bracing Infliction 2
Sygna Suit Steven & Deoxys
‎　⤷Defend!, Try This!, Cosmic Power
‎　⤷Team Mind-Bracing Infliction+ 9
Tate (Summer 2023) & Jirachi
‎　⤷Use Doom Desire: Team Same Stat ↑2, Team Lucky Entry 1, Use Doom Desire: Team Same Stat ↑, Wish upon a Star!: Shared Fortune 2
Tina & Flareon
‎　⤷We’re Going Too!
‎　⤷Team Mind-Bracing Infliction 2, Team Wise Entry 1
Victor (Palentine's 2024) & Greedent
‎　⤷Cooking Prep!
‎　⤷Hit: Team Attack ↑ 9
Wally & Delcatty
‎　⤷Let’s Win For Sure!
‎　⤷Let’s Win For Sure!: Berserk Bunch 1

[old orchid]

@vapid notch sorry for misunderstanding your question earlier, here are all Atk and Spdef buffers ^

[vapid notch]

your good im not mad

[limpid kiln]

here's my type medal

[old orchid]

Tierno, Colress (who was the pair designed for this battle) and SS Erika

you should grid SS Erika with Sunny Day MPR at least so she doesn't run out of sun early

you can replace SS Erika with any good dmg dealer covering one of the missing types

[limpid kiln]

okay thanks a lot i'll give it a try

[shut prawn]

Who would be my best bug physical attacker

[undone ether]

Kalos right?

Burgh should be able to do it.

[old orchid]

Sadly you don't have a good physical coverage for Bug yet, but Bug weak Siebold has Sentry Entry x2 so using Burgh is better

[keen jasper]

Why physical bug? Siebold is more vulnerable to special

[old orchid]

Do you have SS Morty?

[shut prawn]

Yeah kalos

[shut prawn]

Its battle 3 so specials down

Should I just go ahead with special?

[old orchid]

You HAVE to use special

[undone ether]

thaat's just the entry field, you can use special attackers with crit

[old orchid]

Siebold has double defense stat than usual

[shut prawn]

My whole life I thought it was the whole battle

[old orchid]

It's just Light Screen on entry, which is ignores by crit

Do you have SS Morty or NC Leaf to setup Burgh's multipliers?

[keen jasper]

And it's easily ignored by the double screen parameters anyways

[old orchid]

Because that team above is not a good team

[shut prawn]

When it comes to bug I would always just toss attack to the highest and just use any other attacker I have

[old orchid]

That's not a good mindset

You are restricting team building and make the fight harder for no reasons

[undone ether]

Team Comps matter o/

[shut prawn]

Only on ground and bug, I love making teams for the other ones

[old orchid]

certainly not a good idea at all, please don't continue doing that

[keen jasper]

You have to make teams countering the gimmick otherwise you're gonna go nowhere

[dusty blade]

brothers imma need some help with drasna 😩

she just wont die

[old orchid]

+helpfaq

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[dusty blade]

round 4 mastermode

[keen jasper]

Oh no, R4 Drasna

[dusty blade]

1.5k pts some strength and the params i dont need (like cant change weather terrain zone)

[keen jasper]

Are you replacing or removing her zone?

[dusty blade]

? she sets zone late im tryna kill b4

[shut prawn]

Vs seibold, round 3 master mode

[keen jasper]

SS Morty, very nice. He'll pair nicely with Burgh

[keen jasper]

Ok, please tell us your team

[old orchid]

use Lucian as the third, and Burgh's team is set

[dusty blade]

valerie mawile 1/5 no ex and hilbert and kukui

[keen jasper]

1/5 BP Valerie

Why not candy her?

[dusty blade]

... cos i dont have candies ?

[keen jasper]

Can you show your fairy units please?

[dusty blade]

i have no fairy limited its just the free stuff

[keen jasper]

I'm thinking of using Mina since the sides mostly do physical damage and she has Charm

[old orchid]

what move level are Hilbert and Kukui?

[dusty blade]

kukui is 2 and hilbert is 3

[keen jasper]

And Drasna's most hard hitting attack is Dragon Rush

[dusty blade]

my problem isnt dying its not doing enuf dmg

i alr use flinch on hilbert to deny moves

[old orchid]

i would recommend using a strong offtype dmg dealer over 1/5 Valerie

[keen jasper]

I don't want to recommend brute forcing, but...

[dusty blade]

?

whats that

[keen jasper]

I'm not really sure how to explain this...
It's like killing the enemies really quick by not giving them any HP or strength as much as possible, but using parameters like half HP and -2 sync CD. In your case, since it's only 1.5k pts, you can do it without using -2 sync CD and half HP and parameters like this

[undone ether]

R4 aagainst Drasna? 😮

[dusty blade]

that sounds hard and i want to practice normal params so i can start doing higher pts later.

[swift swan]

yeah rushing with -2 sync countdown or half HP puts you at a very vulnerable state and might not be the most beginner friendly tactics

if you're doing ontype, 1.5k is doable with a lot of params that make things very free

[dusty blade]

ye i have all the ones i dont need to use

[swift swan]

this is fairy-weak drasna, yes? what's your mina's move level?

[dusty blade]

valerie just isnt doing enuf dmg and the sync kills

[keen jasper]

It's very unconventional to say the least

[swift swan]

it's either Mina or BP Valerie (Mawile). don't use the Sylveon Valerie

[dusty blade]

ye im using mawile

[keen jasper]

Their BP Valerie is 1/5

[dusty blade]

but shes 1/5 and i dont have candies or vouchers

[swift swan]

mmm alright

how's Mina

[dusty blade]

is mina a free unit?

[keen jasper]

She's from the general pool

[dusty blade]

like story?

[keen jasper]

A 3*

[dusty blade]

i think i have her 5/5

[keen jasper]

Actually, now that I think about it, 1.5k you don't even need to use brute force nor have much HP and strength params

[cinder summit]

Mina & Granbull

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

Sygna Suit Mina & Tapu Fini

[dusty blade]

ye 5/5 i checked

oh soz im doing 2k pts i did 1.5k b4 but wanted to get some more rewards

[swift swan]

we have presets on pins for 2.5k and lower

remove the strength if you want to go lower

[dusty blade]

ye i had a look at ontype pre sync more dmg

[tulip python]

Omg I forgot Acerola had sun

[dusty blade]

changed for my team and removed some strength

should i build my mina?

and will she need ex

[swift swan]

yes ofc. nuke grid

she won't need EX I believe

[dusty blade]

okk

[shut prawn]

Using morty and burgh seems to be working better than before

[old orchid]

yes, because Burgh has his multipliers setup with a good team comp instead of random ones

[shut prawn]

As of now i have aaron, burgh, and ss morty

[old orchid]

Aaron barely contributes there, replace him with Lucian to setup Smart-Pants faster

[dusty blade]

ughh i just cant kill drasna 😭

i might need to ex mina but i dont like her 😭

[old orchid]

You can lower points instead

[dusty blade]

I'm alr doing just 2k

[old orchid]

EXing her is not a good investment

[dusty blade]

i did 1.5k before

i wanted some extra rewards

[swift swan]

what's the current team?

[honest magnet]

So how I can beat Malva

these are my water options

minus SS blue since I've used him]

[undone ether]

are all of these move levels accurate?

[honest magnet]

umm

i don't think I've accounted for move levels here

[undone ether]

update them with move levels, it can make a difference

(same for their rarity)

[honest magnet]

hold on

[honest magnet]

here you go

[undone ether]

is this master mode or just attaining the type medal?

[honest magnet]

I have no idea what this means

this isn't master mode

[keen jasper]

So you're doing the type medal

[honest magnet]

i suppose

[silver dirge]

Build around Kris

Get a support to buff her stats up, Hilbert would be an option but you wanna get some other types in - Shauna, Aaron, Hop, Sonia all work

You can give Kris some rain to boost her damage, Winona has rain dance and is flying type

[honest magnet]

hmm

i'll try

[silver dirge]

Make sure you grid Kris right, she's very strong

Are you familiar with triple queue & teambuilding?

[honest magnet]

no

[keen jasper]

+triplequeue

[frozen depot]

In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.

See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[honest magnet]

oh yeah

that's obvious

[silver dirge]

Sweet you should be set. Make sure you're buffing Kris' stats fully (+6 Atk, +3 Crit) and also fulfilling her multipliers

As for the grid you can make your own or go off the recommended builds in #1008010844547842079

[honest magnet]

wait hold the fuck up

i cannot build around Kris

she's physical

[silver dirge]

Why is that a problem?

[honest magnet]

it's 4th e4

Sp Def is lowered

[silver dirge]

You don't need to focus on that, it's an extra boost for special pairs but it's not a deteriment to physical ones

[keen jasper]

Who are you fighting again?

[honest magnet]

i mean yeah but she will be hitting me harder than I will be hiting her

[silver dirge]

Although on Malva's end she will hit you quite hard on the boosted param

[honest magnet]

Malva

[keen jasper]

Oh yikes

[silver dirge]

What's your support roster like?

[honest magnet]

Gimme sec

[honest magnet]

Yeah my thoughts exactly

[keen jasper]

Siebold, Drasna and Malva are all death on R4

[honest magnet]

well

I really should've thought about that before defeating Wikstrom on round 1 with my best team

[keen jasper]

Maybe you can show their respective move levels please?

[honest magnet]

huh

[old orchid]

Inputting right move level will help us giving better advise

[honest magnet]

gimme sec

i know

here

[mellow linden]

To be 100% honest, on Hard Mode Kris will shred Malva in the Rain

Even with the Round 4 paramater. Worst case scenario you may have to restart the fight a couple times so Malva doesn’t use her stronger moves

[silver dirge]

^^ throw in Sonia and deny a move or two with staggering if you need to

[honest magnet]

hmm

i'll try

I was supposed to be saving sync orbs

[mellow linden]

Sonia and Kris are good grid candidates for both short term and long term, so even if you have to grid them here it’s a good use of the orbs

[honest magnet]

Ok it finally worked

Phew

Now how the fuck am I supposed to beat Diantha

[swift swan]

She wants status condition

[old orchid]

As well as defense debuffs or she will hit hard

Tho this can be ignored with a strong tank or staggering

[swift swan]

The battle is meant for Colress so even if you don't use him as the main damage dealer, he's very useful

[honest magnet]

Well would be cool if I got him

Fuck I already used Gloria

Pain

is solgaleo any good in this situation

[mellow linden]

Solgaleo should work fine for Hard Mode. Do you happen to have its EX and/or extra grid tiles from the respective events?

[honest magnet]

No

I don’t have him set

I can only make him Move Level 5

[mellow linden]

It’s fine if you don’t have the EX/Power Boost (make sure to 5/5 and 20/20 though, you get those resources for free), I just wanted to check since the Power Boost would make it easier to get a Support

You could also off-type (use a non-supereffective damage-dealer) if you’d prefer

[honest magnet]

I don’t know it’ll be hard

I won’t get all the pieces anyway

[mellow linden]

Off-typing can actually be easier than running a supereffective damage-dealer sometimes, it depends on your roster

As for type medal, 9-12 on your 1st week of getting it is fine, it’s physically impossible to do all 18 types in 1 week anyway since you can only use 15 pairs maximum on a given CS run

[honest magnet]

I will get 7

before fighting Diantha

[mellow linden]

So as long as you have 2 or more types you haven’t used on your final team it’ll be alright

[honest magnet]

hmm

[mellow linden]

Can you show your full roster? It’ll make it easier to help you figure out a plan

[honest magnet]

Yeah sure but i haven;t edited in all move levels yet

[mellow linden]

If there’s anyone where a Move Level is important knowledge for Hard Mode I’ll ask about them, no worries

[honest magnet]

My current plan on Diantha is to go Solgaleo, Jasmine and Renegade Cynthia

Ok gimme sec

[mellow linden]

The fact that you have SSR Cynthia is very useful info, actually

[mellow linden]

What’s your current type medal progress?

Like, the specific types

Sorry, could have worded that better

[honest magnet]

i've already used SS Red, SS Blue, SS Green, Ghetsis, SC Diantha, Nita, Rosa, Hilbertt, Wally, Kris, May and Flygon Raihan

so my medals are

Fire, Water, Grass, Ice, Fighting, Ground, Dragon and Steel

wait no

I haven't used SS Green

but I've used Gloria

[mellow linden]

Can do SSR Cynthia + Sonia + someone who can inflict a status on the center opponent (ideally someone who also fills a type you haven’t gotten yet). If you can grid Sonia’s Hostile Environment tile and/or are willing to reset until she gets a Paralysis on the center opponent on turn 1 or 2 then the 3rd can just be anyone for type medal purposes

[honest magnet]

imma be real, I've never thought I would be putting so much planning into mobile game

[steel kelp]

Just cause it’s a mobile game doesn’t mean there isn’t depth

A lot of gachas are like that

[honest magnet]

yeah i know

[mellow linden]

This team would net 2 types (Ghost and Electric) minimum, 3 if you make sure the 3rd team member is of a type you haven’t used already

[honest magnet]

hmm

so like my tactic is to paralyse Diantha, set up sonia and then spam Shadow Force?

[mellow linden]

Avoid Shadow Force until the center opponent goes down

Cynthia would be using Shadow Ball for damage until after center is KOed so you don’t mess with your Sync Move countdown before you can afford to

Sonia is there for Defense debuffs, move gauge help, some Attack/Defense buffs for the team, and if you’re fine with potential resets for opening RNG then getting Paralysis on the center by turn 2 at the latest

The 3rd teammate can either be the one to status the center opponent or offer some other helpful utility such as the move Leer to debuff the sides’ Defense

[honest magnet]

hmm

Would Kukui do the trick?

[mellow linden]

If you’re fine with Sonia being the status inflictor (and the possible need to reset the fight a few times if she doesn’t Paralyze early) then Kukui’s great

[honest magnet]

ok

i'll try that then

shit i'm running out of level ups

[mellow linden]

Don’t worry about going beyond level 120 rn, btw

In a pinch you can even leave Kukui at level 100 for now

[honest magnet]

i've alreadt got him on level 140, that's why i've chosen him

[mellow linden]

Ah

[honest magnet]

what's the ideal order of attacks

Sonia -> Kukui -> cynthia?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that’s the ideal Tactics order

[honest magnet]

good

ok, time to test this

huh

first try

Thanks a lot!

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[honest magnet]

thank you even tho it's you who did all the hard work lol

[mellow linden]

As long as you can understand why it worked and can apply the same or similar principles in the future then it’ll be all you in no time

[honest magnet]

yeah

[mellow linden]

If you ever need a refresher on the various CS stages’ gimmicks you can check out the 3rd link in the pins

Super helpful database, I still use it a ton since there’s so many stages to keep track of across the regions

[honest magnet]

ok thanks!

[keen jasper]

Damage dealers are always last target. If you have 2 damage dealers, the main should should be the last

[old orchid]

They were asking about order of attacks, not order of being targeted

[honest magnet]

no i was asking about order of being targeted

[honest magnet]

yeah i thought so, just wanted to make sure

[mellow linden]

I was about to say, if it was about move order then I completely misinterpreted it, lol

[old orchid]

This confused me

[keen jasper]

Ah

[honest magnet]

yeah could've worder that better

[mellow linden]

But yeah, you’ve got Tactics order down

[honest magnet]

now i've another little problem

it's called "R4 Glacia"

[old orchid]

Oof

[honest magnet]

i really fucked up going to CS blind didn't I

[old orchid]

You chose the worst round to play against her

[honest magnet]

yeah i know

[old orchid]

Using sleep or flinch is the way then

[mellow linden]

Number 1 rule of Fire weak Glacia: bring any weather other than Hail, ideally with 2 uses.
Number 2 rule of Fire weak Glacia: hope she didn’t wake up and choose violence on your given attempt

[honest magnet]

ok i'll try that tomorrow or something

i've had enough of this mode for one day

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

[old orchid]

Better to rest to regain your sanity

Glacia does NOT like to show mercy

[silver dirge]

Queen behaviour

[grand trout]

She did say she wants a serious battle

[keen jasper]

Oh no

Hopefully you got some good Sp. Def. buffers and sun setters in your roster

[keen jasper]

Unless she just fully spams Draining Kiss

[rotund maple]

Anyone have the kit information for the event stadium?

[old orchid]

[rotund maple]

not in pomatolls

[old orchid]

It does

[rotund maple]

no, only the grass stadium

the newest fire stadium isn't in it

[old orchid]

Have you tried using the < button?

[rotund maple]

yyes, that gives me the water stadium

[old orchid]

Fire CS was a rerun of an existing challenge

Go back further

[rotund maple]

oh, didn't know that

they rerun stadiums often?

[old orchid]

Nope, we only had Ice and Fire stadium reruns in past 2 months

[rotund maple]

ah ic ic, ty

Btw, any recommended order for the fire CS that is the most advantageous for a new player?

[keen jasper]

Don't do Glacia on round 4 is all I'm warning you about

[rotund maple]

yea, saw that in search, but beyond that, any orders that is slightly more advantageous than others? even 500 more points worth just from the advantage the round bonus brings is welcome 🙂

[keen jasper]

Round 1 can be used for Grimsley, Koga or Molayne since their main damage is physical and it will give you some protection to keep your tank alive. Round 2 is mostly a neutral round. Round 3 you can probably use to poison stall. Round 4 is anyone but obviously Glacia.

[rotund maple]

ooo, thanks, that'd be a great help, ty ty

[shell orchid]

Would these teams work for special CS? I only have two fire-type strikers so I had to make due.
I'll also do some evos before starting

[steel kelp]

Hilda is self sufficient hilbert is just redundant on the team

[shell orchid]

So should I use a debuffer like Lucian or colress on that team then?

[steel kelp]

Def debuffer like colress

You never click searing shot

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend redoing the SS Hilda team since Hilbert is redundant and Haze is not enough for SS Misty to be worthwhile against Grimsley

If you happen to have an eggmon with Sunny Day that’d actually be really good

Sun Eggmon + SS Hilda + Support

[north crown]

FYI some techs can be damage dealers too

[mellow linden]

Yeah, it’s not a rigid “only Strike can be damage-dealer”, in reality it depends on the specific Sync Pair’s kit

I run all sorts of Techs as main damage-dealers across my teams

[latent eagle]

Am I tripping or does Penny set up fairy wish? Is it on sync?

[old orchid]

Penny can't setup zone

She lowers 1 Fairy rebuff on her first attack, and at 5/5 she lowers 1 rebuff with her first sync

[latent eagle]

I swore she set up zone… ah well

[rotund maple]

Anyone know which one of the pasio special stadium e4 is the best pick as a poison stall target?

[mellow linden]

I guess anyone other than Molayne or Glacia

[rotund maple]

I am leaning toward Koga, but i am not sure if I am missing anything from all the kits

Glacia is also bad for poison stall?

[mellow linden]

Glacia is an absolute powerhouse, especially if you leave her Hail up (which most Poison stall teams would have to do)

[rotund maple]

ooo, thanks

[nocturne pawn]

i think you’re confusing it with ebe penny

[rotund maple]

So, for Glacia, would R1 or R2 ideally be best for her? As both R3 and R4 is now out for her XD

[mellow linden]

If you wanna Poison stall then I’d actually recommend Round 2 for the Poison stall round

You generally don’t need the stronger debuff potency, but more potent Poison and Trap mean a faster and thus more reliable clear

[rotund maple]

ooo, ic ic, sweet

oh, and is NC Silver a hard counter to Molayne? Or does he have something other than the sandstorm I should worry about?

[mellow linden]

You want to avoid giving Molayne Sandstorm, so NC Silver is the opposite of a counter

[rotund maple]

hmm, but its only faster move guage charge right? I thought speed have no meaning if we triple queue?

[mellow linden]

Huh, never realized he didn’t have any damage boost from Sandstorm

Nevermind then, doesn’t really matter

[rotund maple]

I was thinking NC silver would bring team sandstorm protection, and that molayne's gimick is sand damage alone?

or is there something Im missing in the AI?

[mellow linden]

NC Silver won’t really be any stronger or weaker than other options since Molayne doesn’t set Sand until he Syncs

Also Sandstorm chip damage is entirely inconsequential for your team, so no need to try and negate it

[rotund maple]

ah ic ic, good to know

[latent eagle]

Could be lol

[rotund maple]

thanks a bunch~

[mellow linden]

I guess since Molayne doesn’t get a damage boost from Sandstorm you actually could add him to the Poison stall candidates if you wanted, though he does have some high power moves to watch out for if you decide to stall him out

[nocturne pawn]

mfw hammer arm

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that

[nocturne pawn]

imo glacia is probably the safest option to poison stall on special cs

cuz her main move set is aoe and draining kiss is weak

[mellow linden]

Glacia also gets mega boosted by Hail

[nocturne pawn]

and you wouldnt care about the defense buff

[nocturne pawn]

wait she does?

is it 5?

[mellow linden]

Not actually as big as I thought with Invigorating Hail 2, but I’d personally put Koga as the safest stall since his gimmick is defensive rather than offensive

[steel kelp]

Isn’t that still saving glacia r4

[mellow linden]

Just avoid using status moves for the duration of Status Move Defense and you’re golden

[steel kelp]

Or is this r2

[mellow linden]

I don’t think they’ve even decided their full order yet

[steel kelp]

[mellow linden]

Since they were asking about rounds 1 & 2

[rotund maple]

ooo, soo much good info thanks everyone

[nocturne pawn]

i think the bigger issue with fire weak glacia was the defense buff and healing

not so much the offensive buff

[mellow linden]

It’s a bit of column A and a little of column B

[nocturne pawn]

and since poison stall involves debuffing anyway imo shes still second best

[mellow linden]

She already has boosted Attack and Sp. Atk.

[nocturne pawn]

cuz she even has less resistance than usual

[rotund maple]

Im doing almost all of these offtype, so trying to figure out the best order to do them in to hit at least a few thousand in score

[nocturne pawn]

who was glacia even meant for again

probably ss morty and anni N i guess

[mellow linden]

Some sort of Sun Setter, I guess

Or maybe Sun + Anni. N if double purposed

[rotund maple]

Is glacia squishy enough to be able to presync her offtype with NC Silver?

Or will I need a rain or sun team for when she reapply hail -1?

[old orchid]

just save Silver's B Move to deny the second Hail

[mellow linden]

Oh, that flinches, doesn’t it

[rotund maple]

ooo, great advice, ty ty

didn't realize I can deny the hail that way

[old orchid]

yup it's guaranteed flinch

[pure rain]

how come i cant stomp starmie with heracross

[old orchid]

the stage has double defense stats than usual

so Heracross is going to have a harder time clearing the stage

[pure rain]

oh thanks i thought they wanted you to use the new unit

[old orchid]

who are you using with him? depending on team comp and parameters Heracross can totally brute force

[steel kelp]

Cs doesn’t really care about new units

[pure rain]

w viola and aaron

[old orchid]

Winter Viola?

[pure rain]

yeah

[old orchid]

or OG Viola

oh

the team is totally fine, what move level is your Heracross?