#Champion Stadium

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undone ether
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60k on the side for Solgaleo nuke

keen jasper
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I wonder how much Gloria will dela to Diantha

undone ether
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a lot

keen jasper
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And now that there's perma field effect, I can use Sonia

undone ether
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defintely

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if she gets a +1 DEF buff, she becomes a meaanie ;-;

keen jasper
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No wait, Thorton doesn't have preemptive field

undone ether
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hence why my team. Can keep lowering her defenses, and it powers up Solgaleo's Brainteaser tile, 22k a Sunsteel Strike lets go

keen jasper
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Oh fuck it, I'm gonna bring in BP Clemont

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I also forgot about him

undone ether
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Screech like mad o/

keen jasper
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Well, Clemont also has Spark to para

manic kiln
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mY fAiRy TeAm Is ShIt
Literally a pure f2p fairy team DawnNom

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Fairy is still in a better place than ground and bug GladionSip

undone ether
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True that

grand trout
grand harbor
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What do u guys think of this team?

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Would it work?

manic kiln
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You need to change the weather

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Use a rain setter

main crow
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Winona or May

grand harbor
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Instead of who?

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Defog from darach would work?

old orchid
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Defog doesn't remove weather

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Replace Winona with Koga

rain turret
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this week's 15k was easier, but I got lucky with malva, houndoom missed one decisive heat wave and I won

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doing siebold off-type was awful

grand harbor
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I dont have a good bug pokemon

old orchid
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you can use a strong offtype dmg dealer, and bring a Bug type as fodder for the medal

keen jasper
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Actually, why do I even need Sonia or Lenora? My Gloria is 5/5 so she has Defense Crush 9

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While Thorton handles paralyzing

mortal dirge
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I’m using Steven Colress and Celesteela for the champ and I’m struggling really hard

main crow
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Wait Diantha has healthy advantage? eatcookiecrisp

keen jasper
main crow
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Oh no wonder

old orchid
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Colress is a nice counter to Diantha, but i dont know why you are using Celesteela there

keen jasper
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Yeah, you need a physical buffer

old orchid
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Solgaleo is a better pick than Steven, tbh

grand harbor
main crow
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Solgaleo also ignores the damage reduction she has

grand harbor
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🤔 So maybe i should try i totally new formation

main crow
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Why are you monotyping too?

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Colress/Solgaleo/speed support should be good enough imo

old orchid
grand harbor
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Medals left
Normal
Ghost
Poison
Ground

So any suggestions?

keen jasper
main crow
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Since Sol already ignores damage reduction you can use colress for screech

keen jasper
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Fanfare, defense and speed buffs

old orchid
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should take note that Solgaleo needs power boost to afford Skyla

old orchid
mortal dirge
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Well solgaleo indeed made it so easy

keen jasper
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Colress has AoE crit buff if enemy is paralyzed

old orchid
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he is already busy with paralyzing and debuffing defense

keen jasper
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I mean, it can be done like this:
Thunder Wave ---> Mirror Shot ---> Mirror Shot ----> Mirror Shot ---> Screech ---> Screech

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Colress has no DPS anyways

steel kelp
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Why click mirror shot at all

old orchid
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Diantha has defense buffs multipliers

keen jasper
old orchid
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you would die first before reaching Screech phase

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and his crit buffing is slow as hell

steel kelp
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That’s not what he should focus

old orchid
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better bringing a support

steel kelp
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Aoe debuff takes more priority

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And if hes 3/5 he makes everything free

old orchid
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especially when Diantha is more dangerous with defense buffs

grand harbor
steel kelp
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Show everything

old orchid
old orchid
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Cyrus Winona Leaf for Malva

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have you done any E4 before her?

grand harbor
grand harbor
old orchid
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Who did you use against him?

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Also please turn off ping when reply to me. Many thanks

grand harbor
old orchid
grand harbor
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Okay let's try

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And the other medals?

old orchid
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You use them in other teams

keen jasper
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You can use your best units along with the missing types for filler

grand harbor
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Failed miserably 😢

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Leaf 1 hit died

toxic cobalt
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Well, try again!

swift swan
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Malva has very strong moves, so there's a bit of RNG involved to pray Malva doesn't spam them

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make sure to change the weather

keen jasper
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Yeah, especially Overheat + Daunless

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Which means you can't cheese with the enemy having +3 stats with Haze

grand harbor
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😅

shell orchid
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I'm trying to team build rn and I need the ice, electric, and fighting medals. I built the teams successfully, but I didn't manage to fit an electric in. Is it even possible?

nocturne pawn
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you need status for diantha

old orchid
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that Diantha team will scream for gauge

nocturne pawn
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yeah lana doesnt do anything for raihan either

old orchid
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change Lana to someone else who provides speed buffs

shell orchid
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Would this work?

nocturne pawn
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raihan misses a crit buff but i think it should work

old orchid
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you want defense debuffs on Diantha or else she hits hard

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can you show us your Steel type roster?

sick inlet
lean lion
nocturne pawn
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oh you have colress

old orchid
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Colress + Hop + an Electric type should work

toxic cobalt
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Also no reason SS Gladion need an SS Blue carry

nocturne pawn
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hes not that great at it

toxic cobalt
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Hard mode?

shell orchid
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This is the current state of the teams

north crown
shell orchid
north crown
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not necessarily, tho I just optimize as much as possible on the first week to minimize the chance of failing

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finishing 12 is usually fine (unless you're leaving out some problematic / rarer types

calm marsh
rose ermine
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Are my teams fine for this week?10k left,15k right

old orchid
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Wikstrom is anti special

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Hop being Fire weak with only +1 spdef will have a hard time tanking

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SS Gladion doesn't need extra special debuffer

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Siebold has Sentry Entry x2, so Geeta's performance is not really good, replace her with a terrain setter

rose ermine
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That better?(Ik red is also physical but as a rat I think he could do it)

north crown
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You could always just rely on his Speical GMAX move PhoebeGiggle

old orchid
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now Drasna team is more questionable

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but it still works

north crown
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in the worse case scenario, flinch stall away SophoKEK

rose ermine
steel kelp
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Malva seems like gauge problems

old orchid
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the 15k team is already questionable from the start

rose ermine
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15k is brute force silver

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triple johto is 50% boost

rose ermine
steel kelp
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That team is still mad slow

rose ermine
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im tryna find out if B Hydro Pump with -2 rebuff,+5 SMUN,-6 SpD,rain and support ex can on tap

steel kelp
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Don’t tell me you’re gonna click metal sound

rose ermine
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i am

steel kelp
rose ermine
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hilbert 3x metal sound and 1x attack move

steel kelp
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Pick hilbert or lysandre

rose ermine
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thats -6 spd and -2 rebuff

steel kelp
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Not both

rose ermine
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hilbert isnt there for damage

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he's there to give rebuff and -spd

steel kelp
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You’re wasting him

old orchid
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you should move him to Siebold tbh

steel kelp
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If you’re not using him for damage then swap him

rose ermine
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ok

steel kelp
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He’s too good to just be wasted for utility

keen jasper
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SS Hilbert is made for bug-weak Siebold IIRC

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Oh, even the tips recommend him too

steel kelp
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Hold up why did I not catch that

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Why lance and Lucas for siebold CobalionSquint

north crown
rose ermine
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Anyways I'll switching Hilbert to siebold

full mesa
rose ermine
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I finished my experiment

keen jasper
full mesa
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What?

keen jasper
grand harbor
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Time to tey and fail again 😂

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Drasna was so easy when i used gladion

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😂

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Last week i suffered

grand harbor
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Ground or poison or ghost or bug

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Is scyther good tank?

full mesa
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Bugsyther is an ok-ish tank. Can't take much but isn't a paper thin wall too.

grand harbor
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Guys i need tips for allister

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I use 1 shadow ball then spam sludge bomb?

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And max ooze

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Or am i doing it wrong.

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?

hard notch
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Seibold is ruining me

grand harbor
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Conquered malva

grand harbor
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And will have to use not the best characters for medals

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Allister the one i cant use and others 😂

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Poison, ghost and ground are left 🤔

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What do u think?

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Or bertha instead of courtney

full mesa
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Also which e4 have you left?

grand harbor
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Yes

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Only seibold

full mesa
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And champion

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That's 2 fights.

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Can you show me your ghost roster?

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And poison?

grand harbor
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Think of playing with this team what do u think?

hard notch
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I poisoned stalled him

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He doesn’t do enough damage

full mesa
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Against Siebold? No. Keep Alister and Koga. Add another support. We need Hau/Mudscale for champion

hard notch
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How good is MC and alcremie for this?

full mesa
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They do lots of things, shine at nothing. Try them.

hard notch
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Just asking since I’m planning a team around sycamore and SS gladion

full mesa
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I used Sycamore/SSGladion/Azumarill. You need some defense buffs to survive sync.

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Also the more TMS and no-gauge-moves the better, given how swallow your speed will be until first sync.

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And you need to attack with SSGladion right away in order to get -6 spa for max buddy damage.

hard notch
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Of course

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Well I got her beat easily

full mesa
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SSGladion makes this fight a breeze

hard notch
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Malva was tricky

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And seibold

full mesa
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For Malva all you have to do, is change the weather. Siebold isn't anything special. Just too tanky.

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Gg regardless

hard notch
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Yeah don’t get me wrong just use rain dance

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But the two other Pokemon with there hyper voice and such can still do damage

full mesa
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Also for future, don't use Hau and Sonia at the same team. They do the same exact thing. Pair each of them with a spd buff support or a second damage dealer.

hard notch
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I just made hop first target and just kept him alive for the free revenge attacks

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Sonia was just there buffs and move gauge boost she gives through potion

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Since rose just sucks up meter

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That was her only job

peak stirrup
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Starmie is pretty chunky. 21k was half his health

hard notch
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Very chunky

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threw me off a bit

undone ether
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think this should be enough for Special CS? D:

north crown
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Adaman SSLybi lmao

undone ether
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last time

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it was SS Erika

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while SS Lyra + Meganium basically live for a long time

cold tusk
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this should be ok for special cs

old orchid
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yes, should be

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tho Kiawe doesn't contribute much on NY Wallace team

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you can replace him with Flannery for stronger Hoenn Analysis boost

cold tusk
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i only threw kiawe on there for that initial gauge but good point

trail smelt
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Oh dang I forgot about fire weak CS

noble plaza
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Having a bit of trouble w/ this team

old orchid
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Hilbert is not really good at defensive side, you should change him

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or replace May with Winona, she has flinch

noble plaza
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I tried with Winona instead of May as well

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But yeah Hilbert is squishy

old orchid
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change him then, Nessa doesn't ask much support on buffing side

noble plaza
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I was able to do it with SS Blue, Nessa and Winona

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But now I'm having issues with using BP Valerie vs Drasna. Drasna is pretty bulky

old orchid
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do you have a Fairy Zone setter?

noble plaza
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Yes. I have Volo, I have Egg Sylveon too but I haven't tried with them yet

old orchid
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so Volo, BP Valerie and a tank

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sync with Volo first

rotund maple
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Anywhere I can find a summary of the gimmick of the kalos E4?

old orchid
rotund maple
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cant see any summary in the pins

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except for the week's parameters

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which are wrong btw XD nvm read it wrongly

old orchid
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Opponent Kits & Stats

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it's on the first message

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the parameters are not wrong either

rotund maple
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that just gives the raw data, was wondering if there's a summary of anything

keen jasper
rotund maple
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Like, I can't see any gimmick for dresna unless I use lucas by accident, and I am not finding any gimmick with siebold.

old orchid
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press Skill tab

rotund maple
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yea, i am reading through it

keen jasper
old orchid
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then they should tell you everything

rotund maple
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dresna have a bunch of dragon zone powerups, but nothing in skills that causes a dragon zone

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so unless I use lucas, not sure what the gimmick is

old orchid
lean lion
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She sets Dragon zone one turn before sync

trail smelt
old orchid
trail smelt
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Ready to burn things. Just using my old high score team lol

rotund maple
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but yea, was wondering if there's a 1 line summary for each XD

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also, how do you know that she does that 1 turn before sync?

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from experience?

keen jasper
rotund maple
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?

lean lion
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Right I meant right

old orchid
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when the sync countdown shows 1, she uses Dragon Wish

rotund maple
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I know what 1 turn before sync means...

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but yea, ty trout

keen jasper
rotund maple
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so thats what that symbol mean

keen jasper
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This is the sync countdown I'm talking about

rotund maple
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other than actually going into battle and seeing her do that XD

keen jasper
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Yeah, it's as Trout said

rotund maple
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yea, just learned it now XD, thought that symbol meant that was the sync move the whole time

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while here, was just wondering, is there a tutorial for what everything in the pomas tool means or how to read through it?

old orchid
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there is none, because the info is already obviously shown

keen jasper
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There's a section called "Information and Help"

old orchid
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just read them

noble plaza
rotund maple
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uhh, then just 2 questions, what does mitigation mean? and what are the numbers under status conditons mean? like does 9 for badly poisoned means she's susceptible to it?

keen jasper
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Mitigation means how much less they take from those effects

old orchid
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or just use egg Sylveon because Drasna uses Dragon Wish right before sync

keen jasper
rotund maple
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so should focus on lowering her def?

keen jasper
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The lower the number, the lesser the mitigation

grand harbor
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So this team is jot dealing any dmg to seibold

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And unfortunately i need to do poison /ghost for the medals

keen jasper
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It means that Drasna is more susceptible to attack and special attack debuffs

rotund maple
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ah ic ic

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thanks for the explanations

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definitely help make sense of all these shorthands XD

keen jasper
grand harbor
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Hard 1

keen jasper
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Round what?

grand harbor
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I don't understand? 😅

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Its sebiold

trail smelt
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First battle?

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Each round has different effects in master mode

grand harbor
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Hard 1
2nd week

old orchid
lean lion
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Out of the four fights, how many have you won?

trail smelt
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Been awhile I forgot lol

old orchid
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is Siebold your 3rd opponent?

lean lion
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Or is thir the first?

trail smelt
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He said hard 1 so I assumed round 1

grand harbor
trail smelt
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lol what

grand harbor
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Special attacks

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Ah u get it now

keen jasper
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4th round Siebold, hmmm, that's rough

grand harbor
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He is the last of the E4

keen jasper
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His attacks are mostly special

trail smelt
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He’s not the last

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You can fight them in any order

keen jasper
grand harbor
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Last for me as i had strong Pokémons for the other elites 😂

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Gladion evaporated drasna

keen jasper
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You can separate your other types for Diantha

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Like ground on Siebold and poison on Diantha

grand harbor
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I have 3 medals needed in the last 2 fights

Ghost
Poison
Ground

keen jasper
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For Diantha, you can use a poison unit since she has Healthy Advantage

grand harbor
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Thought Allister and koga would complement each other

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But i was wrong we dont deal any dmg at all 😅

steel kelp
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Status

keen jasper
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Siebold has a lot of HP

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Almost 29k base

steel kelp
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Oh right he exists

grand harbor
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Ok so if i save poison for diathna

Who would i go with for sebiold

Ghost+ground

keen jasper
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I think Bertha would be best

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She has sandstorm and she can buff your team's defensive stats

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And also crit

grand harbor
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Okay and any sp dmg dealer like cyrus or ghest.

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?

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O wait bertha is not supp

keen jasper
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What I said above is her support, but she's still a tech unit

grand harbor
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So who would be good next to her?

undone ether
keen jasper
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Despite being 1/5 only, I'd use Burgh on Siebold

grand harbor
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How is zinnia so bad?

keen jasper
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2021 unit

paper summit
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she's not bad, it's just she is a bit hard to support

grand harbor
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Got u seibold

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Bertha, Allister and giovani did the trick

keen jasper
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Oh? Didn't use Burgh? Well, onto Diantha

grand harbor
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Done

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Master mode unlocked

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Have no clue what i did 😂

woeful wolf
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So we have a points guide for the Red CS?

swift swan
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You mean what params to take?

woeful wolf
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Yeah

swift swan
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It'll be the same as regular CS. Check pins for presets, adjust them to your needs

celest sail
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any advice on beating Wikstrom in CSMM this week?

old orchid
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you have to erase his defense buffs. Event Victor is a good pick for that

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what team and params are you using?

keen jasper
celest sail
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i tried NC leaf, NC blue, and SS red but they got annihilated

celest sail
keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Well, that was a crit by Bugsy so I guess not using him to clear

onyx ice
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Bugsy only has the sync move, his DPS is atrocious, and the sync move isn't even that great considering that is a striker mega with no 6ex

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Guzma is much better

celest sail
celest sail
old orchid
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It'a better showing your whole roster, but this is okay for mow

hazy tusk
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Sentry Entry x2 LarryDead

silver dirge
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Aurochs out here taking Bugsy against SE X2 and 29k HP

old orchid
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If you don't want to ontype: NC Rosa, SS Roxie and Event Victor

hazy tusk
toxic cobalt
hazy tusk
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EnTry indeed

celest sail
old orchid
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SS Steven also works

celest sail
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you mean as a replacement to SS Roxie?

molten ibex
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Is sir fetch better than gallade?

undone ether
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ooof, almost did SS Lyra against NC Red with giving them impervious ooof.

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ah wells, done, managed to get to 3200 pts against NC Red o_o

onyx ice
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Did you boost his attack and evasion +6? Did you mistakenly took the 80% physical damage reduction?

hazy tusk
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Params ain't gonna help against Sentry Entry x2 SophoKEK

onyx ice
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Yes but even twice that damage is still ridiculous for a sync move

toxic cobalt
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Reader, I did not pick the wrong parameters

undone ether
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I finally candied SS May from 2-3

old orchid
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Smh imagine doubting Aurochs' skill

undone ether
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Grimsley was buffing too much sigh

old orchid
steel kelp
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Wally is sad

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Bea supremacy BeaBurger

old orchid
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At least his Gardevoir is a great Fairy enabler and nuker

onyx ice
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Bugsy is pretty terrible so I don't expect him clearing sentry entry X2 3k Kalos, but still I wouldn't expect him doing like 3% with his sync

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He still has respectable attack stat and a 100% sync multiplier, yes mega striker non 6ex nuke definitely hurts, but still there's something off

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Is at least base 5★ and 5/5?

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If it is base 3★ 3/5 I could see him doing that pitiful sync damage with some hp parameters

toxic cobalt
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There are no HP parameters and not base 3*

silver dirge
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Let's not forget this is the Aurochs we're talking about lysandresip

toxic cobalt
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Let Bugsy low roll

onyx ice
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It's long time since I've used bugsy, but I don't remember him being that bad

toxic cobalt
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He's not usually that bad! He's just clearly bad now!

hazy tusk
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He was bad at launch

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He hasn't gotten better with harder content TabithaHehe

onyx ice
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I mean bugsy was never good, but i don't remember him being bad eggmon level of bad

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I mean base 508 attack when mega at base 5★ with Blindspot, even with that bad 192 + 50 sync BP can't be so terrible

old orchid
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The real problem is he being Bugsy

onyx ice
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Not saying that he can clear it, since his DPS is non existent, and his sync isn't even 6ex, but like 3% on sync

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The sync damage was the tiny red spot or the whole black bar?

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Because if it did like 15% then i can get it

undone ether
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Burgh gaming ;o

onyx ice
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Bugsy is bad, siebold is bulky and has sentry entry X2, then 15% makes sense

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And at this point I think it was the full black bar, because otherwise who else did the rest of the damage if bugsy did like 2% on sync

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I Just saw that tiny red bar and I thought it was the sync damage

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Sad that they tried to build bugsy kind expecting him to ko stuffs with fell stinger to get buffs, but he's pretty unlikely to ko anything that isn't almost KO'd with unboosted fell stinger (or even fully boosted)

toxic cobalt
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Yeah really bad design, can't imagine it even worked with the full force style battles

onyx ice
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Maybe it worked in Early halls of battle villa

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Stuffs like super victory and victory lap wouldn't be that terrible in MM if it actually had a decent DPS move to back it up

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Maybe if it had something like 3 pmun stacks on entry and a 3 bar move I could see him working in rush comps with 6ex

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I guess now his main utility is an extra clear against azelf In gauntlet

cold tusk
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rip ssmorty silver and lyra cant deal enough dmg to clear glacia pre sync at half hp and 3k points. had to use rats and bird for free clear

full mesa
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I used NCBlue/NCLeaf/Serena sleep chain combo to clear...

rain turret
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any tips for koga?

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Idk how to stop the def boost,Im trying with silver, ss hilda and tina

old orchid
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Try to kill him before the crit shield

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The def boosts are ignored by critical hits. The real obstacle is the critical shield before the first sync

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You should replace Silver with who can setup sun on demand

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And sync with an EX support

trail smelt
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Boy

brave halo
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Everytime, every single time its always fire Glacia, who was the intended character again?

trail smelt
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Mono fire team is hell lol

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Lack of defenses hurt especially for crappier units lol

brave halo
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Or just the idea of facing glacia

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Cause she hits way too hard even without sun for some baffling reason, seriously why can't they just nerf her?

trail smelt
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I… wanna guess SS Morty?

brave halo
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He's gonna be used against NC red

trail smelt
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I did something stupid for my NC Red fight lol

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No sun on demand BUT can you guess why that doesn’t matter?

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||All three can burst out of frozen status themselves LMAO||

cold tusk
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koga is very tanky at 3k points maxx boostd charizard sync kanto analysis doesnt deal over 50%

brave halo
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I'm just losing it here

cold tusk
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took 3 resets to clear

trail smelt
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Koga’s real problem is if you leave them alone too long

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Before he syncs he sets up Crit shield and that’s just bad times

cold tusk
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i was running nate red and chase

brave halo
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You want to know how bad I have it? This team cannot handle a hit even when sun is up and +6

trail smelt
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Sounds like a parameter problem honestly

brave halo
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It's never a param problem

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She just hits way too hard

cold tusk
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reds brave bird also one hits ss acerola

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funningly enough

trail smelt
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I mean

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Look at that Glacia team lol

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You think that reached +6 both defenses? Nope

brave halo
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Tell me how much luck did you get for stat leech to drop spatk?

mortal dirge
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Share your fire team guys

undone ether
brave halo
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Seriously not even nc rosa can handle glacia

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This is actively insane

manic kiln
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nc rosa is more of a offensive support than defensive, her def buffs are slow

undone ether
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i put NC Leaf there

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i know how annoying Glacia is sigh

brave halo
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Like literally I can't use ssmorty cause he is meant to be used against ncred

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But even one else can't take a hit at all

manic kiln
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not really with perma field you only need 1 sun for red

undone ether
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i off-typed NC Red 😐

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all of my best fires are in the E4 stuff

grand trout
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I thought koga would have the pseudo x2

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Turns out it's much worse

undone ether
#

Crit Shield and Stat Drop Immunity

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nasty.

grand trout
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Wait

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My koga can drop his stats just fibe

undone ether
#

He's susceptible to Burn at least.

grand trout
#

Maybe it's your param?

undone ether
#

oh i mean he has fields

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i do post sync so i get to see all his stuff lol

grand trout
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I see

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Well i try to kill him before he sets up that fucking Shield because fuck him

brave halo
#

I want to scream, so badly

grand trout
#

Would unhindered bypass crit shield?

brave halo
#

OK I tried throwing in ex lodge gladion for free 100 param point +3 everything cause haze

grand trout
#

Uh huh

brave halo
#

Turns out a single blizzard still does half health after losing all those buffs

grand trout
#

Just reset

undone ether
#

yeah NC Red's Blizzard is nasty ;-;

brave halo
#

This isn't nc red

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This is glacia

undone ether
#

oh just Glacia? yikes.

brave halo
#

I'm only on round 2

silver dirge
#

If you want help share the parameters, team or a recording so there's context to go off of. Complaining into a void is going to get you nowhere

undone ether
#

Hmm my Round 3 was against Glacia

grand trout
#

Yeah just reset and hopes she does x sp def

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Or ice beam

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Icy wind is still nasty

undone ether
#

Team was SS Morty, NC Leaf and SS Red

wicked junco
#

Anyone else did full mono fire for this Special 15k CS? I'm struggling hard with NCRed, I might've boned myself with my previous teams ValeriePlead

undone ether
#

that way her icy wind / blizzard didnt do a lot of damage once you -6 her SP.ATK

manic kiln
# brave halo This is glacia

check your parameter
I recommend you pre sync Glacia, learn to quadqueue, I know you usually post sync but it's not gonna work here when you can't use all your strongest fire units for 1 stage like normal CS

undone ether
#

I think i only did 2 fire mono teams.

grand trout
#

I used this team for glacia if it helps

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You don't necessarily have to have sun

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Just not hail

austere oyster
#

What the hell is up with Malva’s Pyroar? Nearly deletes one of my mons on the first damn turn AND has AOE Will o Wisp??

grand trout
#

You have to overwrite sun

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If not overheat will burn you

undone ether
grand trout
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Be sure to bring status shield too

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I recommend melony, and fight her in the permashield stage

manic kiln
austere oyster
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Well, I’m half right, I guess. I’m using May/Swampert to use rain but I guess she’s too slow?

manic kiln
#

May is fine

grand trout
#

May just needs support

austere oyster
#

I already used Melony as well, which was admittedly stupid.

grand trout
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Do you have kriss?

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She can't be statused in rain

silver dirge
#

She can't?

undone ether
#

she has Flameproof in grid o.o

austere oyster
#

I think I have Kris. Just not built yet.

grand trout
#

Oops ping sorry

grand trout
austere oyster
#

What about Lana and Araquanid? Doesn’t she reduce fire damage for the whole team?

austere oyster
#

I’ll have to run a flameproof tank, a healer, and May, I guess.

grand trout
#

She has fire guard yes

silver dirge
grand trout
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However since she buffs physical

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It's no use for may

silver dirge
#

Do you have a 3/5 base Kris?

grand trout
#

How about wally?

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Wallace*

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Dammit

undone ether
#

May already has Rain Dance

austere oyster
grand trout
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Oh right

austere oyster
#

I have very few SS or champion pairs just yet. lol

grand trout
#

Can you show your pairs?

silver dirge
grand trout
#

I thought it was Cyrus

silver dirge
#

Nah

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PB Kris hits on some PFs levels on type, even by relatively modern standard

austere oyster
#

Here are my waters. Apparently I do have 3/5 base Kris. I just haven’t used her so her grid is empty.

silver dirge
#

You're set, Kris + May + Support to buff Kris

grand trout
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Yay

austere oyster
#

I also have EX power boost base Cyrus if that helps. 🤷‍♂️

silver dirge
#

I see Hilbert

grand trout
#

Now we just have to bypass will o wisp

grand trout
silver dirge
#

If you can pre sync soon enough that won't be an issue, but otherwise find someone with flameproof yeah

grand trout
#

Unless flameproof?

silver dirge
#

Idt so

grand trout
#

Hilbert also isn't that tanky

austere oyster
#

We can’t search our rosters by passives yet, can we?

grand trout
#

You can using a Bot here

brave halo
#

I think I've permanently lost this

manic kiln
#

ignore wow, you don't need flameproof if you kill them fast enough

brave halo
#

I'm swapping params left and right and glacia still hits hard for anyone I try

silver dirge
austere oyster
#

I started out using Morty/Misdreavus as my support/healer but I found out there’s a Houndoom with Dark Pulse so that was a bust.

trail smelt
#

Man

grand trout
#

Try Lana

brave halo
grand trout
#

Lana kris and may

trail smelt
#

That is a dangerous combination of max hp and strength and attack multiplier lol

grand trout
#

Over hp

wicked junco
#

Marley, Blaine and SSRed worked PostSync for me

nocturne pawn
#

have you tried defensive buffing

wicked junco
#

On r2

nocturne pawn
#

post sync koga sounds so miserable why

silver dirge
nocturne pawn
wicked junco
#

Basically stall parameters but burn+trap SophoKEK

brave halo
grand trout
#

Koga has tighten and toughen up right

brave halo
nocturne pawn
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which is why i say ew to post sync koga

wicked junco
#

Post sync has Condition Shield

grand trout
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Not post

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He puts up Crit shield before he syncs

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Fuck him

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Just right before you can sync

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Oh my god

nocturne pawn
#

yeah i have ny wallace tho

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so free win™️

silver dirge
nocturne pawn
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hes fun too

wicked junco
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I think I'm boned for this

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Cant find a way to 3k this

grand trout
silver dirge
#

Oh the image didn't load okay let's see

brave halo
silver dirge
#

5/5 EX Hilda is right there

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SS Morty is reserved yea? Can I see your other supports

brave halo
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The only weather support I have is ssacerola

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Who also can't take a hit from this

fringe bobcat
#

Have you used gordie?

brave halo
#

One blizzard and dead

manic kiln
#

erm with those dps options you can just run 2 supports to help with survival

brave halo
#

His bulk is just bad

grand trout
#

Just reset tbh

fringe bobcat
#

I asked if you had used them

grand trout
#

Blizzard will hit hard

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No matter your setup

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Pray to rnjesus she doesn't use Blizzard or icy wind

cold tusk
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reset

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its wat i do

brave halo
#

She could just lose already, that'd be great

manic kiln
#

3k = use busted units or reset, reset, and reset GladionSip but you have to get the param and team building first

nocturne pawn
#

glacia always gives me issues

fringe bobcat
#

Hilda, Gordie and any supp should easily one-shot fire weak 1st sync

cold tusk
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if u have rats and bird use it

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for 1

nocturne pawn
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because permanent def buffing and crit shield pre sync

brave halo
nocturne pawn
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basically if you take too long you do no damage

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dps harder

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you dont want to see crit shield

grand trout
#

Kill him before he puts up shield

cold tusk
grand trout
#

I used max moves to beat that fucker dead

brave halo
#

I'm waiting for this to fail so badly

fringe bobcat
#

You're wasting Acerola

nocturne pawn
#

it’ll be fine

fringe bobcat
#

You don't need 2 suns

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Don't complain if you don't have for other battles later

nocturne pawn
#

its been a while since the last one so maybe red does?

grand trout
#

Red def does

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He has hail at start and uses permanent field

brave halo
#

Yeah the team failed so badly

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One blizzard and gordie is dead

fringe bobcat
#

Maybe if you replace acerola with someone that buffs sp.def

brave halo
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And that was after at least one of his tm, and sun up

nocturne pawn
#

i mean you probably just need a special defense buffer at that point

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one use of sun should be enough and -2 rebuff on mid should be enough to wipe

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glacia is always just problematic with aoe spam

brave halo
#

But then how am I supposed to both get +2 sync buff and have sun before she syncs?

nocturne pawn
#

-2 rebuff is a 50% damage multiplier for fire

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you could probably just sync with hilda first and deny the sides

fringe bobcat
#

You don't sync with a supp

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Only with Hilda

brave halo
#

Not syncing with a support, wut

grand trout
#

Tracker would help yes

nocturne pawn
#

most of the time in csmm i dont actually supp sync

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cuz most units are strong enough to either one shot or get close to one shotting

grand trout
#

What stage is this for

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And what.params

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Koga eh

old orchid
#

That team is not gonna pre sync

grand trout
#

There's your problem tbh, it's a good team but i don't think it's good to the extent it can decimate koga before Crit shield

old orchid
#

Red takes too many turns to buff himself, that leads to damage loss

grand trout
#

Exactly

old orchid
#

Replace Marley with an offensive support

grand trout
#

Replace red with ss hilda

old orchid
#

Or that. But you should plan your teams out first in case you need her in another team

grand trout
#

What are your remaining stages?

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Oh oop

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Hmm lemme recall the parameters

old orchid
#

Then it's better to plan ahead first

grand trout
#

I think first round is when you'll have trouble quadqueueing

old orchid
#

Craft teams by yourself, then we will give feedback on improvements

grand trout
#

I used r3 personally or r4

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R3 to debuff him more, r4 to spam specials on him

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Maybe r2 too

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It's up toy tobyou really

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Nc nate for unova circle?

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And passives?

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I see

silver dirge
old orchid
#

EX base Hilda so based

grand trout
#

Is that Gordie ex

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Purty

nocturne pawn
#

nah

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you need alot of rng for 3 items in a row

grand trout
nocturne pawn
#

also draining kiss is st so that also helps

grand trout
#

Very much a good param for my 3k runs

silver dirge
#

I didn't switch my params around, when you're going for first sync you can pick up some CD and reduce their offense as much as possible so the blizzards don't hurt as much. Also quad the max instead of delaying sync like I did

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You can also just go for a denial support, they have 3/5 Elaine

wicked junco
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I used this order for full 3k fire mono

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...until NCRed stage, I've been trying so many times to stay mono, but jesus Brave Bird and Blizzard are dummy strong. I feel dirty now.

brave halo
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Yeah it's still not enough

grand trout
#

Lol you didn't just break the momo

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Mono

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You used another type entirely WEEZing

silver dirge
#

That's losing 50%

brave halo
#

It was up

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But left right before she sync

grand trout
#

It shows hail.there

wicked junco
silver dirge
#

Ah she sets hail pre sync

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Did you use the same params?

wicked junco
#

I was tired and pissed, okay? KlaraAngry

grand trout
#

Lol i get you

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At champion round you're left with the dregs

brave halo
nocturne pawn
#

i dont think i can monotype if i wanted to

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1/5 ss may probably cant do enough for 3k solo unfortunately

grand trout
#

I mean in a way, ncblue, red and ash are kinda

Fire MinaSmile

silver dirge
# brave halo

Idk why you won't drop the HP, see my params in the video

wicked junco
#

I think it would be doable saving SSMorty for r5

silver dirge
#

The HP is stopping that clear

wicked junco
#

But I feel kinda lazy to do it all again

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SSHilda decimated Glacia anyways

brave halo
grand trout
#

Hm?

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Oh for the glacia stage?

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Well i hated her spamming Blizzard so i spammed sing right back lol

nocturne pawn
#

probably sleep denial

grand trout
brave halo
#

OK yeah this is straight up impossible

wicked junco
#

Maybe I'll try to swap some of them for full fire 3k, but for now these work just fine

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They did require a bit of resets tho (except glacia)

brave halo
#

Seriously when can they just nerf glacia

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Just nerf her attack stats, that's all we need

wicked junco
#

In regular CS usually the champion is typically the easiest, but not in this one, I got overconfident and the leftovees weren't enough

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Match retries

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Mainly for MPRs

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Or early burns

grand trout
#

Hoping mpr for kiawe is pain

brave halo
#

Seriously wtf

wicked junco
#

I would like to try saving SSMorty (and maybe SSHilda) for NCRed, round 1 and 2 would stay the same (they were already pretty tight)

brave halo
#

She took nothing from the sync

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Even without the hp param on

wicked junco
#

Then maybe slotting SSMay and Kiawe for r3

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With Flareon Eggmon maybe

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But I would have to test that a bit

brave halo
#

Seriously what am I supposed to do?

nocturne pawn
#

no stat reduction is a free parameter

#

idk why you’re not taking that

brave halo
#

Struggle bug

nocturne pawn
#

it literally doesnt matter

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hes just pressing it so he gets to sync

silver dirge
#

There are also literal parameters in the video

nocturne pawn
#

one special attack debuff is doing fuck all vs glacia

silver dirge
#

^^

grand trout
#

Honestly idk

silver dirge
#

Since you're going for first sync you can even take some Max CD and further reduce bulk

shell orchid
#

Back again and struggling with Siebold for the second time

grand trout
#

Why is red here

silver dirge
shell orchid
grand trout
#

I know he brings super effective but you can do better units

grand trout
nocturne pawn
#

which is not what you want to be clicking

shell orchid
nocturne pawn
#

idk why brycen is there though he just does nothing lol

wicked junco
#

Ice medal

silver dirge
#

Type medal I'd guess

grand trout
#

How about melony instead

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Do you have her

nocturne pawn
#

i mean im pretty sure you can find someone else besides brycen

grand trout
#

Yeah melony

brave halo
#

The exact same params and she still keeps winning

#

I flat out lost for good it seems

grand trout
#

Well

#

Arch was lucky in that video for glacia to use those kind of attacks

#

It all boils down to that now

nocturne pawn
brave halo
#

Stop rng please

#

Just make me win

silver dirge
#

I made some suggestions earlier did you see those?

brave halo
#

I've been at this for a few hours now

silver dirge
#

Try Elaine for some flinch denials

brave halo
#

Elaine is meant for ncred as well

grand trout
#

If you're getting worked up maybe put your phone down for a bit

#

Clear your head

shell orchid
#

Ok I subbed out brycen for melony and gridded crit eye on burgh using all of my sync orbs

silver dirge
#

? You do not need SS Morty & Elaine for NC Red

grand trout
#

Fire cs will be here for a while

brave halo
manic kiln
silver dirge
#

Lmao, well good luck

grand trout
#

Such obstinance

old orchid
shell orchid
#

Because I had two crit buffers now, I swapped out Red for Lana for group water guard, the fact she's EXd, and propelling strike

grand trout
#

Congrats

brave halo
#

I legit almost had it

nocturne pawn
grand trout
#

Now who will you use to fill normal slot

brave halo
#

But the recoil

nocturne pawn
#

you have like 2 weeks

#

relax

#

no one is forcing you to clear it today

brave halo
#

I don't want to deal with thus for days

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I want it done now

steel kelp
grand trout
#

Well good luck

nocturne pawn
#

i literally just said you have 2 weeks

#

come back to it later

#

if you’re not having fun while playing it take a break

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otherwise you’re just going to make yourself hate it

brave halo
#

I already have hated glacia from the beginning, but I still want it done now

nocturne pawn
#

dude

#

take a break

steel kelp
#

Nah it’s just them

grand trout
#

It's either you get it done today (you follow all our advice, bar none) or don't

#

Something's got to give, but at the end of the day we're not the ones who have an uncleared stage here

#

Your call

nocturne pawn
#

well i havent started yet

old orchid
#

if you chose to not follow our advice, there is no point of asking for help into complaints here

steel kelp
#

Cs doesn’t have to be annoying if you don’t want it to be

nocturne pawn
#

but thats cuz i spent the last half hour on lucy

#

(easiest ub by a long shot too btw)

#

3/5 courtney makes it so much easier

grand trout
#

Look on the flip side, many guys here have cleared cs Because of this

#

You'll be fine

silver dirge
#

Disregard - it doesn't have to be like that we're always here to help if need be bcePeekWaiting

grand trout
#

Also you mentioned wanting to copy my teams right? My advice is try to understand the intricacies of cs because half of the fun of cs is creating your own teams

silver dirge
#

^^

steel kelp
#

Please

#

For the love of everything

#

Learn how to teambuild

brave halo
nocturne pawn
#

i dont think i can monotype lol

#

me when the strikes outnumber the supports

steel kelp
#

Like what’s Evelyn or kiawe doing

nocturne pawn
#

yeah marley has no offensive buffing

nocturne pawn
steel kelp
#

She does

nocturne pawn
#

evelyn is the real why support there

steel kelp
#

It’s through grid and chance based

nocturne pawn
nocturne pawn
steel kelp
#

Hype up and something else

nocturne pawn
#

also on different moves

#

cringe!

grand trout
#

I know what they do because i study them lol. Over time it comes from experience. Fret not though, the helpers here are willing to help

#

My limited units can be replaced easily, you just need to know what they do

steel kelp
#

A limited unit is the equivalent of an eggmon if you don’t know what they do

grand trout
#

Leon is just a beeg damage fire

#

Greedent is just sonia but better

#

Mina is a tank that brings weather

#

If you want, i will add explanations to my thread next time so you can follow my thought process

left storm
#

Eggmons op

fading cradle
#

what are some weather sync pairs i can use for malva?

manic dust
#

Conceptually, I feel like the Leafeons and Bulu should be able to handle Glacia 15k, and yet...

steel kelp
#

Anything that isn’t sun

keen jasper
silver dirge
manic dust
#

Yeah

silver dirge
#

Your biggest issue there is going to be Acerola tanking, since Malva has quite strong special moves, but the damage will be there

manic dust
#

Yeah, Acerola folds pretty quickly, which is where I think it all falls apart

steel kelp
#

Isn’t she fire weak

silver dirge
#

Not fire weak

manic dust
#

Glacia, not Malva

cinder summitBOT
#

STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAREX_0
‎ Type: TYPE_GRASS‎ ‎ Weak: TYPE_FLYING

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 611
ATK: 200 | DEF: 288
SPA: 132 | SPD: 288
SPE: 244

Acquisition:

ACQUISITION_POKEFAIR Poké Fair

Alternates:

10007000000 Acerola & Palossand
10007000001 Acerola & Banette
10007400000 Acerola (Fall 2020) & Mimikyu

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Tank Support (3/5)
‎ + First Aid / Pep Rally
‎ + Adrenaline / Pep Rally (4/5)
‎ + Adrenaline / Punishing Strike (5/5)
‎ + No Quarter / Punishing Strike (5/5)
‎ + Adrenaline / Full Tank (5/5)

Lucky Skill: Head Start 1, Adrenaline 1, Defense Crush 2, Vigilance
(if not picked on grid)

steel kelp
#

Oh

silver dirge
#

Unfortunately Acerola doesn't do a great job of being a special tank grief

steel kelp
#

It’s also malva

#

She’s kalos flint

manic dust
#

I'll give it a shot -- I'm a little worried about increasing her bulk too much because Hoenn, but there may be some wiggle room

silver dirge
#

Yeah Malva is out on business

silver dirge
grand trout
#

Lol im down to helping newbies out it's nbd

silver dirge
fading cradle
# keen jasper Winona and/or May

alright, i have may here (this team is only tentative and is subject to change), im just looking for a good support and strike sync pair but the only water strike sync pairs i have are cyrus and kris 🫠

steel kelp
#

What is flannery doing with SS red

keen jasper
fading cradle
keen jasper
#

May only

steel kelp
#

Someone to help red

fading cradle
keen jasper
#

You're going to do Koga without someone to use Defog?

steel kelp
#

So he isn’t spending 3 turns of setup

grand trout
#

Not necessarily

silver dirge
grand trout
#

You want someone that'll bypass Crit shield

#

Either you use units that will kill him before he sets it up

#

Or defog

fading cradle
grand trout
#

I suggest the former because defogging will waste a turn that should be used for sync

silver dirge
#

Ah that's okay then, as long as you're not short on them, or starting to be

keen jasper
grand trout
#

I know

#

I don't mean units. I mean a strategy

keen jasper
#

It almost sounded like there's a unit that directly ignores crit shield

grand trout
#

I didn't say unit, did i

grand trout
#

Yes i fail to see no mention of units there

#

If you guys bother to read the next post after that one you'll see what i mean

#

Defog removes the shield

keen jasper
#

Defog removes crit shield

#

And also the screens

wicked junco
#

Removes all shields, even the permanent ones (that you picked in parameters)

grand trout
#

Okay let's start all over

#

Crit shield is your pain point for koga

#

Two ways to work around it:

Kill him before crit shield

silver dirge
#

Y'all try not to confuse them like that TogeSmile

grand trout
#

Remove shield

#

I suggest killing him before crit

#

Clear so far?

silver dirge
#

The stuck up is on the wording "bypass". TLDR; Defog will remove crit shield from the field, so it's a form of bypass and you'll be able to crit normally.

#

That's all you need to know, dw about the rest

wicked junco
#

I assume the team that he meant was a copy of mine, granted that team managed to do it post crit screens, but I don't think it's noob friendly

fading cradle
#

what’s recommended for drasna? i just beat malva

keen jasper
#

And also someone who can lower her offensive buffs

fading cradle
#

ah shit

#

aight, who can lower her offensive buffs though

brave halo
#

ok am i just losing it or is standfast not working as intended?

#

cause hilda is taking so much recoil

silver dirge
#

Share your grid

keen jasper
brave halo
silver dirge
#

Don't bother with the bottom sync nodes that's too expensive

#

Although that grid should be fine

#

I don't see how you'd be taking that much recoil

brave halo
#

its glacia, she is just making everything bs

mellow linden
#

I had the absolute weirdest Glacia run ever

brave halo
#

who did you use cause i am losing it here

steel kelp
#

Mine was fun

mellow linden
#

I ended up going with Penny + Blaine + Serena and it was something wacky

brave halo
#

ive tried so many others i can, im right now trying with penny but icy wind does too much

steel kelp
#

SS hilbert and gordie

#

Triple fire rebuff is murder

#

I really should remember to use hilbert more

mellow linden
#

It wasn’t Sleep stall proper, but Hypnosis definitely helped with the clear

brave halo
#

i swear why couldnt wikstrom be the one here

steel kelp
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Granny forgot to take her nap

brave halo
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im just going insane

steel kelp
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When was the last special cs

brave halo
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last month it seems

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grass but that was super simple

mellow linden
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If you're struggling with Glacia you could just bump up the power level on your team since Red is pretty easy as long as you set Sun

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Or just lower the point value if you're doing 3k on Glacia currently

steel kelp
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Red is a cakewalk in comparison

brave halo
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acerola, blaine, and sserika do literally nothing, i have no able to withstand her hits from rain or sand

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by the way it looks, i flat out lose for good

steel kelp
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Should be fine

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Molayne is kinda whatever

wicked junco
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I would save NCLeaf for either Glacia or Red

steel kelp
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Probably glacia

brave halo
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ok im about to go completely stupid and try hilda, gordie, and lenora

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welp that was a dud, i hate glacia so much

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im now confident this has been over 80 times

keen jasper
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You are replacing Glacia's hail before you sync right?

brave halo
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yes im using gordie's max right before the sync

keen jasper
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Max Flare?

brave halo
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the problem is she still hits way too hard over +4 spdef and the sync itself is doing FA

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why cant my fire squad ever be good?

keen jasper
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What round are you facing her?

brave halo
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2

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ive been losing it for like several hours

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i just want this done with

keen jasper
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What's your team again?

mellow linden
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Show Fire roster please

brave halo
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Earlier picture

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and before it gets stated, no ssmorty cannot be used

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he is meant for ncred

mellow linden
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I mean, he could since the Red fight is pretty easy as long as you bring Sun in general

keen jasper
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Where are you going to use Redzard?

brave halo
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on nc red

mellow linden
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Could bring Hilda + Emboar, a tank, and a Sun setter. Hilda's wholly self-sufficient if need be

brave halo
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ive been using hilda constantly

mellow linden
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Just make sure the Sun setter can set it at least twice and save one use for after Glacia uses Hail

brave halo
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ive been trying many combos on her and gordie for fire rebuff with some support