Champion Stadium

[tulip python]

Pidgeoto Blue?

[undone ether]

Pidgeot yeah

[tulip python]

I’ve done Suicune and Amphy at one point

[toxic cobalt]

Suicune is good. Should work.

[tulip python]

I then tried Celebi and Frog

Because usually interference works

But he nukes me before I get the real damage in

[undone ether]

My team was basically sc steven, pidgeot and anni skyla. 17k sync, 10k hurricane

[toxic cobalt]

Interference does usually work, i would keep trying that

[tulip python]

With the “this is it”

[toxic cobalt]

Just keep attacking once he has enough buffs, tm not needed

[tulip python]

Clutched Koga with a burn

Moltres and Reshi and Ho Oh saved the day

With some RNG luck

I realized the point of spamming flare blitz on Moltres is that it has an innate debuff

Making blue flare even stronger

[dense birch]

I finally got round to doing grass CS. First 15k as well. Thanks to everyone for the help, especially to @toxic cobalt for the fantastic f2p guides for the first couple of comps

[fiery canopy]

koga is being rather annoying

tried ss ethan but now im gonna try nate

or should i just keep trying ethan

[wicked junco]

Ideally you need both SpAtk and Atk

Atk for the center, SpAtk for the sides

I used Falkner, Blue and LodgeSkyla and it was pretty straightforward

[fiery canopy]

shoot i still gotta unlock lodge skyla
ive been lazy about it lol

[wicked junco]

Yeah Nate is just 💀

[fiery canopy]

unfortunate

[wicked junco]

Almost 0 use after LodgeSkyla release except for LG solo

[dire pond]

Could I have some help maximizing what I can do on Master Mode for the current Johto Stadium? I have no clue what modifiers to use, and while I have a general idea of what dps to use for a few stages I'm not quite sure what to do about the full teams. Notable units posted below

Honestly modifiers is probably my biggest issue though I have no idea what's good to put on or not

[toxic cobalt]

Which DPS do you want to use?

[dire pond]

Dark stage is Costume Zinnia or Sidney, Psychic stage is Lana or Lusamine, Bug stage is Hilbert, Elec. stage is SS Elesa

for sure

[toxic cobalt]

SS Elesa? You're sure?

[steel kelp]

SS elesa isn’t dps

[dire pond]

unsure for the flying one (don't have lodge skyla)

and i mean the uhh

the tech one

emolga

[steel kelp]

Classic

[dire pond]

yeah mb

sorry

Classic Elesa for elec

i'm thinking maybe i offtype with emma for flying?

still though mostly have no idea who else to put up for most of the teams and I suck at choosing modifiers

[swift swan]

no Blue?

I see you have Darach as well

[dire pond]

have blue unleveled but actually that probably works

i forgot about using him at all ngl

[toxic cobalt]

For SC Zinnia, looks like you just need an atk buffer. Could use Hilbert. Ticks all the boxes.

[dire pond]

and i mainly have used darach for attack drops in an aoe 😭

[dire pond]

for SCZinnia I was going to just steal the all stats up 3 at the start ngl, mostly need to figure out a good tank

[toxic cobalt]

For SS Lusamine you just need speed, chuck Skyla in there or something

[dire pond]

gotcha gotcha tyvm

[toxic cobalt]

I mean it's a good plan

[dire pond]

thanks yeah, I'll probably level blue for the flying stage

modifiers and tanks are the struggle then

[toxic cobalt]

For Bugbert you need either a crit buffer or a spatk buffer, maybe Roxanne

[dire pond]

will keep that in mind... rox has always skipped my mind but she's probably worth it, will do

iono probably goes for the electric stage so she's out of the running elsewhere as a crit/spatk buffer

[toxic cobalt]

CElesa does seem to need crit, so Iono works

[dire pond]

probably going with NCRosa for Psychic, which means that i've got my tank for psychic, so all that's left is for Dark, i suppose, which could probably just be Xerneas/Sycamore?

the real difficulty comes in picking modifiers now

[toxic cobalt]

Don't pick types for supports

[dire pond]

mostly just cause ncrosa gives psychic rebuff for faster clearing and has a speed buff

but aye

[toxic cobalt]

Xerneas Sycamore needs to sync, not the best for SC Zinnia

I don't see Blue in your screenshots

[dire pond]

true true, was thinking horn leech but forgot that it'd have to be on type to heal a meaningful amount

[toxic cobalt]

4/5 Darach has to be worth something though

[dire pond]

i think i missed him by 1 row, i do have him at 5/5, the darach is probably good enough but it's best to be safe ig

[toxic cobalt]

Check the pins for presets, can tweak slightly per team but use pre-syncs

[dire pond]

thank you (and wdym by pre-syncs? pre-sync clear?)

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, one of the Presets is called pre-sync, meaning you win before the opponent syncs

[dire pond]

gotcha

thank you

very much appreciated!

[toxic cobalt]

Feel free to test the teams and then come back here

[dire pond]

will do

[frozen fossil]

What's the recommended round order for this week's Johto Champion Stadium?

[sharp willow]

Probably wanna avoid round 2 Will and Koga, and round 4 is half sync so be careful with that

outside of that, it shouldnt matter too much

[wicked junco]

I did this
Karen > Bruno > Will > Koga
Karen wants trap
Bruno wants to die by special damage
Will mainly uses special moves
Koga can use early Blue mega (in my case)

Picked status against Lance for extra para procs

[mellow linden]

Lessened resistance isn’t the same thing as demanding the status and the only e4 member who cares whether you use physical or special damage this week is Koga (who has “Wise Entry x2 before it was cool)

[wicked junco]

Yeah, no battle demands status, I was just throwing an hypotetical optimal order

Paralysis and trap are completely optional, but this would be the most comfortable order for most comps imo

[nocturne pawn]

and sides have doubled defense cuz lol

[mellow linden]

Huh, so they do

[mellow linden]

Fair enough, I just wanted to make sure that the lack of an actual requirement was clear since we’ve definitely had times in the past where people took “has decreased resistance to this” as “I must use this”

[nocturne pawn]

it was for ny lance and he has bounce and hyper beam (flying weak koga)

[mellow linden]

Ah

[frozen fossil]

I was wondering why I was doing no damage with Pheromosa, so I checked my parameters. My parameters were fine, but I still dealt no damage. Then I realized that I was fighting Will (weak to Dark) instead of Karen (weak to Bug).

[mellow linden]

Uh, I hate to break it to you

But Karen is weak to Bug

Not Psychic

[lean lion]

I think they meant Bug cause they mentioned Pheromosa

[mellow linden]

Probably, but still a typo

[lunar meadow]

I love that the Johto E4 is easier than some of the others.

I get to try out fun units and challenges, like optimize or using all free units.

[frozen fossil]

Yeah, I meant Bug.

[frozen fossil]

I'm currently on Round 3 of Master Mode. I tried Will, but I don't have any good Dark-type damage dealers. I do have Karen, but she's a special attacker, so Round 3's Special damage reduction is cringe.
My team was Karen/Houndoom, Sidney/Absol, Hilbert/Samurott (EX), with pre-Sync parameters.
Should I off-type Will?
As for Koga, I do have Lodge Skyla. Can I deal with him on Round 4, or should I pick him for Round 3 instead?

[lunar meadow]

@frozen fossil
This effect just sets up "light screen" for each side.

If you critical hit the enemy, this damage reduction does not do anything at all. Crits ignore damage reduction fields, and positive defensive buffs.

[frozen fossil]

Thanks, I just beat Will with Karen!

[lunar meadow]

I hope you pull a third copy of Samurott soon. That third copy makes his grid a lot better

[frozen fossil]

I only need 13 more coins for a Helper candy

[lunar meadow]

Oh God no!
Do not waste candies on general pool units! You'll get him eventually. The ticket scouts (especially Unova specific ones) will get you that third copy soon enough!

[north crown]

SSElesa + SSLusamine + Bianca = free ontype w

[hazy tusk]

@frozen fossil ping just in case

Don't do it

[latent eagle]

Finally….now I can focus on the other events going on….

[left storm]

Truly one of the freebies ever

[rich needle]

Hoh

Ethan in shambles

Blue in shambles?

[left storm]

#1209457129979641886 message

Blah blah blah SC Steven therefore invalid blah blah blah

[rich needle]

Kek

Is she better than of blue

Oh

Og

[left storm]

Blues nuke is really nice

But in DPS I think she's better?

I'd need to check

Brb

Ok the nuke is pretty much same

[rich needle]

Noughhhhh

Blueeeeeee

[left storm]

The DPS is bit better on blue on average but skyla gets PMUNs and SEUP post sync to overthrow him

...wait

[rich needle]

You had max accuracy on him?

[left storm]

I forgot cs2 in the calcs

[left storm]

+5 which is what you usually reach after sync

[rich needle]

Suppose yeah

[left storm]

Yeah I think ranges are very samey

Thing is, one is a lodge, one is a post PB gen pool unit

[rich needle]

Well one unit is also really really old at this point

Even considering pb

[rich needle]

Wait does it not say blue does double the damage

[wide adder]

they didnt show postsync bravebirdas far as i can tell

hurricanes bp is lower from looks of it so unless blues spatk is that much higher, its lookin good for skyla

either way skylas nuke almost keeps up with ethans

and is likely easier to set up than ethans buffs in a short time

just checked, yeah +2 atk +3 crit (+1 or +0 if you use more than just skyla tm) is easier to cover fast than basically fullbuff ethan, imo

honestly skylas prob better off doing dh+ dh+ takeoff sync if i had to guess, due to seun, if shes without supp sync

[rich needle]

we do have blue to fullbuff

[nocturne pawn]

blue is like 550 after ex

[tacit moon]

is attacking the central pokemon better or does it depend?

[undone ether]

They have almost.all.the health

You can attack the sides to deny them a move though

[trail smelt]

Depends on your team and play style

[dense birch]

Only thing to be careful about is if you kill the middle before the sides, the sides will just spam aoe attacks on each of their turns. Just something to consider

[rotund lagoon]

But middle is still the biggest threat due to sync, so we recommend doing mid anyway

[silver dirge]

Can always chip sides a little if your team allows it

[left storm]

#1209457129979641886 message

She definitely looks good

[onyx ice]

Ideally you want to defeat mid before his sync and being able to one shot sides just after the mid goes down

[tacit moon]

barely managed to take down 3/4, flying team too weaksauce to kill mid fast

[mellow linden]

What’s the team, Hard Mode or Master Mode, and what parameters if Master Mode?

[tacit moon]

Oh I started playing like, a day ago

two

so its the first clear

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode, then, yeah

And the team you were using?

[tacit moon]

using Blue, Darach and Rosa I think?

I didnt know you cant reuse mons so wasted my good tanks too

[mellow linden]

Can you show your Flying roster?

Might be able to spot some things that you could have overlooked

[tacit moon]

didnt even realize it was this barren...

[mellow linden]

Who did you Sync with when you were doing the fight previously?

[tacit moon]

Blue mostly

but hes sp atk so he cant take down Venomoth

was planning to drop sync orbs into Darach tomorrow

[mellow linden]

Could try running an Attack + crit Support (Hop is a free one), Sync with Blue for 1st Sync, then Sync with Darach from 2nd Sync onwards

Avoid Brave Bird on Darach until center is down

[tacit moon]

I used Hop already unfortunately

[tacit moon]

whoa really

[mellow linden]

Yeah, the recoil can be nasty if you spam it the entire fight and Darach needs to use his other moves to setup his Sync nuke anyway

[mellow linden]

Can try Maylene as another easily accessible option

[tacit moon]

supports still up

[mellow linden]

Kiawe can work here

Darach handles +3 Attack for himself via his Trainer Move and Blue will be spending his 1st 3 turns setting up anyway because his damage is basically nonexistent until he gets Mega online

[tacit moon]

gotcha

[tacit moon]

so Darach and Blue single targetting Venomoth?

what does Kiawe do?

just setup?

[mellow linden]

Trainer Move to buff the team, Shadow Bone spam when Trainer Move runs out, Potion as needed

[twilit knot]

SS Erika is a beast of a DMG dealer for grass. Now it's time for psychic event.

[cyan musk]

hey guys. i just recently started this game about 3 weeks ago. i previously had an account and i picked it back up. i currently have finished the storys and im working on other things but im not sure what i should be focusing on. i tried to do the champion stadium hard level 1 and im just not getting far any recommendations? ive tried using the discord but im confused on how to navigate through other threads on here.

[tired sleet]

Feel free to show us your roster ^^

If you’ve never done CS before, you want to use as many types as possible to unlock master mode

Teambuilding guide is here if you want it #bot-zone message

[hidden ore]

Hmm Pasio’s round order tips are not in pins
And idk if Bertha is way to go at round 1

[old orchid]

you just need to worry about R3, the rest is easy

[hidden ore]

Who’s the hardest?

[old orchid]

tbh all Elite Four stages are not really hard, aside from Bertha. But you can just change weather

the Champion stage is a bit annoying, and you should try to pre sync it

[hidden ore]

I’ve thought of Bulurola & Adaman for Cerena stage

[swift swan]

sounds good

[tired sleet]

They are, look at lost’s infographic

[tacit moon]

I made it, beat Kogaaaa
what is this?

[rotund lagoon]

Just choose whichever one benefits your team most. It’s a special round param allowing you to choose the secondary round param

[tacit moon]

what does a param do?

buff?

I think I have ElesaZebstrika, dude with Luxray and Yamper as support

I think I will take sp.atk debuff since my team is physical

[rotund lagoon]

Round parameters, is what I’m referring to. Sorry, just parameter but shortened

[vivid chasm]

Ah, well I’ve been having some issues with getting the clear on the normal hard mode for johto. But, any advice for team comps would be appreciated. Can post roster in a moment. 👋 Account is relatively new, but I got a few okay luck sacks from the tickets I think? I have been trying to get everyone leveled that I have though

I can post from the app. But is the external cataloging app better to post pictures from for this?

[steel kelp]

Tracker is better

[vivid chasm]

Okay will do that was my first thought. One moment then

Should work I think.

Limited wise it's Lusamine with Necrozoma, Iono, Cynthia with Garchomp, Argenta, and Leon with Dragapult I think? Of those I found Iono and Argenta probably most useful so far for me at least.

[rotund maple]

there's a tab that let you sort by role, and then have a checkbox in the bottom of that box that says show separator

[vivid chasm]

Ah, lemme try that.

[rotund maple]

helps them plan your support to dmg dealer in a more easier way XD

[vivid chasm]

Yeah much better.

Huh, sprint must be really rare then.

[steel kelp]

Sprint and field roles have only been around a couple months

[vivid chasm]

Ah, that makes sense then.

[swift swan]

hard mode? build teams around some damage dealers. SS Lusamine or Giovanni are free wins for psychic. sidney and nessa are good options for dark. Bugsy and Noland can work for bug. you can offtype the rest with damage dealers you're confident in

[rose ermine]

Am i good for this week?7.5k left and 15k right

[nocturne pawn]

im not sure on the karen team

[old orchid]

Koga 7.5k team doesnt have much sustainbility

about Karen's team, it's fine

but using a spdef debuffer is better

[rose ermine]

Like Lucian?

[north crown]

imo, you should change Falkner since Blue is self sufficient anyways.

[rose ermine]

Falkner for crit and extra SpA

Also +2 speed

And flinch

[north crown]

Blue's TM:

[rose ermine]

+1 crit

[north crown]

ramp up 2:

[rose ermine]

Yeah ramp up gets me +4

Falkner adds the last 2

[north crown]

TM MPR:

[rose ermine]

I'll see if I can get it

[north crown]

HE HAS 2 OF THEM'

[rose ermine]

Got it

[north crown]

Also, he doesn't do shit without mega, so wasting your moves using TM is fine

[old orchid]

also Lillie buffs +3 spatk with each of her TM use

[rose ermine]

So who do i swap falkner for

[old orchid]

better replacing Falkner with a defense buffers

[north crown]

PPE1 making Lillie almost redundant:

[old orchid]

ideally both defenses buffing because Koga likes increasing her spatk a lot

[north crown]

or you could do the funny and create a sleep stall team

[old orchid]

tbf Blue needs to use his TM four times to max BC

[north crown]

abuse Blue's self succiciency to its fullest

[north crown]

+5 was more than enough

and then his expansion comes in like a boomerang

[vivid chasm]

That works! Thanks

[north crown]

please tell me you considered catering to as many types as possible cuz of the type medal.

[vivid chasm]

Oh if that’s at me. Yeah was trying to do just that.

[keen jasper]

I'm so gassed for next week because I can finally get my last sprint candy coin to make my Rei 3/5

[undone ether]

next week huh

[versed meteor]

In this meta of WTZ i petition for the parameter of no changing WTZ to be worth 200 pionts instead of 150

[mellow linden]

Send feedback to DeNA if you want that change

[rich needle]

No change is dummy impactful sometimes

Like clear advantage aaron

[nocturne pawn]

its not clear advantage

its clear power up

that aaron has acute senses

cuz its for bertha

[gritty nymph]

why does koga tank so much good lord

[rich needle]

Wise entry

[onyx ice]

Considering critical shield is 150 points and crit is the main meta

[rich needle]

Critical shield is 150 because simply put

Ur getting rid of it

If u click it

So they can’t make it too much

[onyx ice]

I guess no wtz is here if you are just missing the wtz needed or if you somewhat can't fit it in the team

[rich needle]

Wtz is for like I will use idk

So many good units use zone these days

Maybe ur using blue leaf classic red

Then boom no wtz

[onyx ice]

But not everyone has every zone

Personally I'm missing bug steel and normal zones

However for stuffs like on type AOE nukes, you can replace wtz with seun and save 150 points if you can't fit both

[rich needle]

It’s not about if everyone has zone

[onyx ice]

Also you can replace wtz with rebuff or circle if you want to save 150 points

[rich needle]

It’s about if u wanna use it

Yeah you can but wtz is still the preferred option

Rebuff is locked to the highest premiums usually

Wtz is usually everywhere

Some types not so much but others waowo

[onyx ice]

Wtz is more available, but for most types is still locked to premium units

[rich needle]

Nough

All weathers have options

[onyx ice]

If you have SC Steven, it can be worth more than wtz for fast comps

[rich needle]

Electric and psychic go brr

Sun is literally everywhere

We have a free ghost zone

Rebuff on the other hand locked to very specific

Or sc Steven but still specific unit

[onyx ice]

Steel is a seasonal and a 6ex variety, bug is a special costume and a seasonal

[rich needle]

Thorton doesn’t count lmfao

[onyx ice]

Fighting is 2 master fairs

[rich needle]

Ok then tell me their rebuff options

And don’t say just sc Steven cuz he’s still a seasonal and I may not want to pull for him

Like you can say sc Steven but like yanno

[onyx ice]

I'm just saying that Steven at least covers every on type

[rich needle]

And I’m saying that’s a very ridiculous metric

To say therefore wtz is cheapened

Technically speaking if I have ncred irida no wtz is always worse cuz they’ll beat the stage no matter what

Same with sstr

[onyx ice]

I'm not saying wtz isn't worth, I'm just saying that players may be missing some wtz

[rich needle]

It’s just a bad way of measuring it

I mean sure they could be

But how does that relate to point value of wrz

[onyx ice]

Not saying that everyone has SC Steven, but regardless if you don't have steel zone? You won't pick wtz for steel weak regardless of steven

(unless you are using something like SS acerola)

[rich needle]

Why accerola of all things

But disregarding my blatant hatred, if ur off typing you would naturally use wtz would you not

[onyx ice]

Because she can give tons of pmun if you allow wtz

[rich needle]

I mean sure but like

If I’m using midcerolla I’m using adaman and maybe throw in a sslyra for fun

[onyx ice]

I mean there are like 2 units that can get rid of critical shield

[rich needle]

So ssacerola value doesn’t come in the setting of terrain but the actual terrain and the value is massive

I can’t remember

It’s like

Lisia and darach

[onyx ice]

I think Lisa and darach are the only ones

[rich needle]

Maybe thievul?

If it works like that

[old orchid]

BP Falkner crying

[rich needle]

He should

Be better

[onyx ice]

Ah yes Falkner too

[rich needle]

Is that it though

[urban cave]

This CS seems difficult

This week

Like really difficult

[onyx ice]

SC zinnia removes only stats i think

[rich needle]

Hm

I guess critical shields harder to get rid of than I thought but still

If ur taking it ur using lisia or darach or faller

No questions

[onyx ice]

Or you are poison stalling

[rich needle]

That too

That’s why it can’t be valued more

[onyx ice]

But you should probably take no wtz for poison stall too

[rich needle]

Ye

[gritty nymph]

Do passive that always crit ignore crit shield?

[rich needle]

No

Palmer.exe

[gritty nymph]

Damn

[onyx ice]

Nothing ignores crit shield

You have to get rid of that

[rich needle]

You’re so right actually

[old orchid]

askually Unhindered bypasses that

[onyx ice]

I don't think so

[rich needle]

Who has unhindered

[gritty nymph]

Old pairs

[onyx ice]

Unhindered is pretty useless, it only ignores regular Shields that are already ignored by crits

[rich needle]

Negh?

I don’t

[gritty nymph]

#bot-zone message

Yeah really old pairs hot damn its been a while since they used it

[rich needle]

Hm that’s wild

[onyx ice]

Unhindered is almost useless

[rich needle]

Gakon let me ping you

You LIED

LIAR

Atsign gakon

[silver dirge]

What was this about? Unhindered?

[rich needle]

Yis

[silver dirge]

It only goes through shields no?

[rich needle]

Apparently

[onyx ice]

Unhindered never ignored crit shield, that why is useless

[silver dirge]

Helper caught spreading misinformation

[rich needle]

[silver dirge]

[onyx ice]

Same with kukui sync, it doesn't get rid of crit shield

[rich needle]

Yeah but that specifies only reflect and light screen

[onyx ice]

However unhindered was introduced before crit shield was ever a thing

Unhindered is a launch passive, I think crit shield got introduced with Jasmine

[old orchid]

gotta run now

[rich needle]

Pingus

He um akshuallyed us only to get akstuallyed

[onyx ice]

Crit shield is pretty nasty

Generally is more likely that you will pick no wtz than crit shield

[rich needle]

Perhaps

But if ur clicking crit shield ur basically guaranteed to be using a circumvent

Like a remove circumvent

No wtz is a team build restriction that’s more realistic

[gritty nymph]

Or other means of dmg toxic stall for the win

[onyx ice]

I mean being limited to slotting one of 3 units in the whole game I think is a bit more restrictive than no wtz

[rich needle]

No but das wut I mean

That thing isn’t touched unless ur specifically countering it

So it’s either free points for those specific units

Or it sits there

Wtz on the other hand is

How do I build a team that don’t rely on it

And there are more answers than that

Which is a lot more interesting and should therefore be rewarded

One option is binary

The other isn’t

[onyx ice]

You can replace wtz with semun if you are going nuke and regice is f2p

[rich needle]

You could but 1, presync cringe, 2, that isn’t quite as much as the sheer power of zone

Especially since you can have both

[onyx ice]

You can have both, but maybe you can't fit both

[rich needle]

You might not

But if you had to pick between

One time 50%

Or 2 dps one sync 50%

One is clearly better

[onyx ice]

I mean if you are going nuke, 1 attack is the only thing you need

[rich needle]

Not everyone just nukes yanno

[onyx ice]

Yes, I'm just saying that no wtz isn't an useless never to pick parameter

[rich needle]

I never said that though

[onyx ice]

Definitely more viable than crit shield, that mandates slotting a defogger

[rich needle]

That

That is also what I said

[onyx ice]

Ofc I'm not saying no wtz is a staple parameter, is quite niche but still a nice option to have

[rich needle]

Why did we argue again

[onyx ice]

I think it started because I was advocating that not every player has access to every wtz, so the no wtz is still free points in those scenarios

[old orchid]

isn't that also Kirby's point from the start

[rich needle]

Um lessee

I think I said it’s should be worth more points

Because it promotes diversity

While crit shield did the inverse

I think that’s where we disagree

Literally every point we made to get to our conclusion seems to be the same though

How wild is that

[onyx ice]

Ok I guess that was the part I missed

[rich needle]

Oer here

One is I use defog

The other is I must build different

[onyx ice]

In that case, yes making no wtz more worth will promote a bit of diversity

But 150 points are still a decent enough incentive I guess

Then it still depends on play style

I mean if you plan to go post sync, most zone units don't last that long, so you may want to save those 150 points

[rich needle]

I never use it because I am lazy

Don’t want to change it

But if I cared enough yes

It would’ve helped in my hilbert and og blue clears

[onyx ice]

Personally I always go for maximum rush parameters

[rich needle]

Most people do

[onyx ice]

-3 sync

[rich needle]

Oh that’s what u mean

Idk man Liza is horrifying

I’d hate to deal with that every cs

[onyx ice]

But in CS you don't have to give the opponent strength +400 and be forced to go mono psychic off type

[rich needle]

True

[onyx ice]

Generally I go on type, some would argue that off-type is harder, but on type is more limiting, for off-type you can easily clear with the rats, NC red, NC Marnie, SS Steven or other busted units

[rich needle]

I only ontype

So I can use all of my roster eventually

[onyx ice]

Like beating bug weak with guzma is definitely funnier than using the rats

[rich needle]

I use hilbert

I run into wise entry

I use ncblue and ncleaf

That’ll teach Sydney to mess with hilbert

Totally all hilbert

[onyx ice]

This week I used 1st impression nuke with sc Steven and NC bede

[rich needle]

That’s crazy

The nuke of all time

Sidenote not even ncblue can save the gauge of double unova bug

It’s so trash

[onyx ice]

The hardest part was one shotting the sides with pin missile, the mid got destroyed by 1st impression

[rich needle]

Critastrophe sync go brr

[onyx ice]

Not sync, just 1st impression

I synced with NC bede

Ended up giving guzma only +3 pmun so I could have used an extra b leer to soften the sides

I guess it was +5 because NC Bede gives 2

But only +4 attack

With grid extension however guzma will be a pretty solid nuker

[dense birch]

Yesss!! 15k on johto CSMM

Had to R2 Koga because needed the extra special dmg on Koga to even kill him with Blue/Pidgeot

Newfound appreciation for sleep/flinch

Don’t think i will get 15k on the next one though. I see ground weak, i sleep

[lean lion]

SS Blue + 1/5 Cerena + May/ Winona can offtype 3k no problem (next week's Koga). Could give it a shot.

[lean lion]

next week tomorrow

[elfin talon]

Guzma becoming a legitimate gen pool sync pair will be so nice to see

[onyx ice]

Nolan will also get 6ex, but I think guzma sync will be better cuz Nolan has mega bp

[elfin talon]

Definitely

Guzma does also have that Critastrophe 2 for another multiplier (feels nice to have that be a supporting sync multiplier rather than his sole multiplier)

[mellow linden]

Poor Bugsy’s gonna be replaced by Guzma in the age-old accessible Bug duo

[main crow]

Going to be one of those dual DPS week

[rotund lagoon]

I pray for that Ground gauge

[mellow linden]

Eh, Ingo should give enough Free Move effects to manage

[main crow]

Yeah stage probably going to be over before I face any real gauge issue

[paper summit]

let's be honest, there is a point we end up going with 2 dps pretty much all the time

[gleaming jolt]

I am able to score 9.5k in Pasio CSMM!
I know it's not a big score, but after understanding the Master Mode during first battle with Serena (I was barely able to score 5.5k) and the Johto one also helped!
The Grass monotype stopped me from scoring more I guess because CSMM Johto was 11k! But I still love the master mode, it helps me discover new things and push my limits!

[mellow linden]

9.5k is still a score to be plenty proud about

[gleaming jolt]

Yeah!!

The condition " opponents and team mates will take less special damage" was a great help!
I was using physical attackers only in last two stages, that's how I understand it LOL

[rich needle]

I want to pet you

[vast dome]

That's my limit

But I have the potential to do 10k

[mellow linden]

So the “sets Special Damage Reduction effect at start of round” parameter actually just sets Light Screen, which is ignored by critical hits.

So it’s more something that can be used to help you since a well-built team should always have the damage-dealer at +3 crit (or the damage-dealer has a passive that means they always crit regardless of whether they’re at +0 or +3)

[gleaming jolt]

I see! Yeah Serena Greninja was killing everyone with water shuriken only! I think that explains it.
So I should have tried for the other three, but I am scared about the sync buff, I thought I can only win the battle if I limit them from using the sync move as few as possible!

[rich needle]

Cerena has +3 crit buffs

When press tm

She is a cheater

[rich needle]

This is technically correct cuz most people do the presync thing

[gleaming jolt]

Though she was always able to use it once during a battle, so I deselected their HP and Stamina tiles to win, and it was still quite a neck to neck battle.

Out of the four conditions which one is best to battle her?

[vast dome]

who 2 pair woth

this is round 2

[mellow linden]

I guess a Speed buffer or Defense debuffer depending on whether your SS Erika has Ramming Speed/Inertia gridded

[rich needle]

The 4 conditions what?

[vast dome]

I'll try that

[gleaming jolt]

I mean before the final 5th battle it give us option to choose from sync countdown decrease, and special damage reduction in both fields and also two more like that

I don't remember correctly what it says

And I don't have any screenshot I think

[rich needle]

Oh that

Depends on team obviously but if ur not sure pick the most inoffensive one

[mellow linden]

Perma field effects is a good one if your team for the fight uses Sun

[rich needle]

Perma field is amazing always

[gleaming jolt]

I used Ho- Oh and Sceptile in second round, who are benefited by sun!

is it also applicable to poison zone for Geeta?

[rich needle]

Yes

[gleaming jolt]

Perma means permanent ??

[rich needle]

Correct

You have infinite multiple times

[gleaming jolt]

Ok

[rich needle]

That is a good thing

Because it means you can press her bmove any time for the defense debuff

[gleaming jolt]

Thankyou !
I will try that with Geeta next time.

[steel kelp]

Perma field is pretty much just a free win cause a lot of units benefit from field effects never stopping

Even if it isn’t wtz perma gauge accel is always good

[dense birch]

Could try. Also have sc irida, ss gladion, and sst red for off type options maybe. Haven’t seen what tomorrow’s CS does yet (stats, gimmicks, entries)

[dense birch]

I should probably use my 5* BP ticket to get something too lol

[crimson wolf]

This is what I been doing, sometimes, TL syncomore survive after one sync attack (because of the lower attack) but without lowering the attack it didn’t survive.

[rich needle]

If should be max lower attack with leaf there

[crimson wolf]

Then how can I take them out? I’m using CH2 and sync nuke. But it won’t make it in time.

[lean lion]

This is 3k MM? And can you send your parameters?

[mellow linden]

Lodge Sycamore doesn’t require Sun, but does generally want more help on his offensive buffs from Supports

[crimson wolf]

Sometimes, I turn off grad healing.

[mellow linden]

So I’d honestly recommend reworking the team entirely if using Lodge Sycamore

[lean lion]

Replace support sync pairs take 3x damage and max hp 8

[mellow linden]

Also, since you’re on-typing absolutely get rid of Max HP 8 and replace it with Standard Damage Reduction 8 + something else

[lean lion]

Use this instead

Cobalt please go over these once?

[mellow linden]

Adjustments could be made if there ends up being too much offense from the opponents, but if they can KO quickly it should be fine

Another possible adjustment is if they roll with Grassy Terrain then they can remove No WTZ change and replace it with 1 or more other parameters

[lean lion]

Let's see how they fare with these. Stage should be a lot more manageable now, hp wise (26k on mid)

[mellow linden]

I’d still recommend a team adjustment, but yeah, the params will be much better either way

[rotund lagoon]

This is a friendly reminder to please spend your stamina, you can focus on stages that don’t require it after you have spent it
If the stages you can use the stamina on is already completed once and you can just use skip tickets, more reason to use it up

[crimson wolf]

Dose it work on champion Serena?

[lean lion]

Depends on your team

[crimson wolf]

Ok that’s what I’m need on.

Because I ran out of good leaf strikers

[mellow linden]

Can you show your Grass roster?

[crimson wolf]

The more I use all of its Stanuma, I have to wait 17 hours and I won’t know it will finished

This is what I have left right now.

[mellow linden]

Could try an SS Leaf team

Would need at least a dedicated Sp. Atk. + crit Support to handle her necessary offensive buffs

[nocturne pawn]

who was nc serena for again

who drops speed in grass

[mellow linden]

Victor

[nocturne pawn]

oh

yeah that would make sense

[wicked pebble]

can someone help me with Koga? I can't beat him on or off-type

[nocturne pawn]

all i did was blue ss elesa redlax

[wicked pebble]

Tried with Ss Ethen, couldn't beat Sync. Tried with NC REd and Iridia, couldn't beat sync AND couldn't take out sides.

[nocturne pawn]

just spam sync s

[wicked pebble]

And I can't survive Sync either way.

[nocturne pawn]

ok thats absolutely a parameter issue

what exactly did you take

[wicked pebble]

Default 2500 parameters.

[nocturne pawn]

that doesnt make sense

ss ethan shouldve been able to clear just fine

[wicked pebble]

He survives at low health.

[nocturne pawn]

are you sure you didnt pick any extra defense or strength or something like that

cuz ss ethan shouldnt have problems against johto cs

ok well whats the team

[wicked pebble]

You tell me.

Original team was ss Ethan, skyla, and cat Gio.

Switched out Cat Gio for Ss Kris to see if extra johto could help get me the rest of the way. Didn't help.

[nocturne pawn]

yeah both of those shouldve cleared just fine

and just to be sure you were triple queueing every turn right

[wicked pebble]

Yes.

It's hard since I need 7 bars, though.

[nocturne pawn]

well since this is r2 and its more special damage iirc try doing him on a different round

cuz he is primarily special damage

he also has doubled special defense so keep that in mind as well

[wicked pebble]

Aren't I supposed to be using special damage against him?

Wait, what?

I thought he was wanting special.

[nocturne pawn]

hes for ny lance

hes mixed attacker

bounce is for mid hyper beam is for the sides

[wicked pebble]

So, would NY Liza be better?

[nocturne pawn]

definitely

not sure why you werent using her before but yeah she would desteoy

[dense birch]

Koga has double the usual SpDef. his sides have double the usual Def. i was able to beat him with Blue/Pidgeot last night on 3k, but i had to pick R2 and did quite a bit of sleep strats

[nocturne pawn]

i just tanked his sync on the half sync round and kept spamming blue syncs

it was lowkey funny tbh

[dense birch]

half sync is fun with blue headstart + ss elesa leg up

[nocturne pawn]

mostly goes to show johto cs is really easy compared to hoenn

[dense birch]

but i kinda lacked damage

overall i had most difficulty on Koga as well. the comp i used for R2 Koga is reset hell (Roxanne procced TM refreshes every turn, which meant i get to spam those instead of using bar. my bars mostly went to Hurricane and Sleep Powder)

[wicked pebble]

because I thought it was a special stage and that she'd be at a disadvantage. That's why I went Ethan.

[nocturne pawn]

i mean tbh

[dense birch]

Lodge Skyla supposedly destroys the fight too if you have her

[nocturne pawn]

i cleared with a 5/5 blue

so your teams should be more than fine

[nocturne pawn]

she destroys in general

idk what the fuck they were smoking designing her

[dense birch]

yeah she's better for this fight than blue for sure. haha. my poor 3/5 blue hitting like a wet noodle

[old orchid]

When Wise Entry x2 brings trouble for everyone:

[lean lion]

Tbf Blue completely destroys sides

[dense birch]

yeah. he just has difficulty with Koga himself

you can set up Blue to one shot the sides on the first sync

[nocturne pawn]

i like how they finally introduced a sentry entry x2 rock stage and then ss diantha doesnt gaf anyway

even at 1/5 she crushed it on 2.5k

[lean lion]

C Silver should be good enough for 3k there I suppose?

[nocturne pawn]

its kalos

but also yeah

[lean lion]

By himself I mean no other damage dealers

[nocturne pawn]

if a 1/5 ss diantha could i dont see why he cant

[lean lion]

Right

[crimson wolf]

So no suggestion?

[nocturne pawn]

erm for what

[crimson wolf]

Because I was going to upgrade a sync grind 2/5. But I don’t what to pick

[nocturne pawn]

i didnt see you post anything here

[lean lion]

This

[nocturne pawn]

uh its better practice to save for 3/5

most units dont improve by much at 2/5

[crimson wolf]

Wait…. Can I do SS leaf mallow and champion rosa? Rosa has 2/5

I’m still trying to beat champion Serena.

I mean the more upgrades it’s attack, it gets doubled the damage right?

[lean lion]

Champion Rosa doesn't cover either of their buffs. You'll need a atk + crit buffer for Mallow and a special atk + crit buffer for Leaf

[crimson wolf]

Oh wait. I have normal red. Dose that help?

[lean lion]

Red Venusaur? He works, but again you'll need a crit + sp/atk buffer Reading issue

[nocturne pawn]

red and venusaur doesnt need crit buffs

[crimson wolf]

Snorlax?

[nocturne pawn]

oh

well snorlax can help set up leaf you just need special attack buffs

[cold kestrel]

Do I just off type the ground weak stage with gladion

[toxic cobalt]

If you can that soudns good

[cold kestrel]

Should be able to

Have geeta for poison weak, adaman for grass weak, bea for fighting weak, and solgaleo for steel weak

[toxic cobalt]

easy week

[swift swan]

updated

[toxic cobalt]

What a great week!

[undone ether]

Geeta week o/

[steel kelp]

Finally get to use SS silver since I candied him next week

[trail smelt]

LMAO I was wondering my legendary steel beasts team were doing awful damage

Then I saw physical damage reduction was on

In any case ready for next week. Lucas and boosted Guzma’s debut, can’t wait

[woeful wolf]

Why is Karen so hard. Im struggling with her again and i have actual good fighting mons in Sirfetched and Lucario (Rileys) with Fighting zone

[toxic cobalt]

You will have to tell us why she is hard. Are you struggling to do damage, are you taking too much damage?

[main crow]

Could be parameter if you're struggling with a team like that

Who's the fighting zone btw? Cynthia?

[woeful wolf]

Yeah.

Im using the low bulk parameters to so idk

Oh wait I didn't have it set

[grand trout]

Guys is this considered offtyping

Guys why is gladion here

I used him for round 4, not champion?

[old orchid]

who did you use on Champion round?

[lean lion]

Solo Steven maybe? Or Steven Registeel duo?

[grand trout]

Steven, registeel, scteven

[old orchid]

there is double Steven

so the game only shows a Steven and includes someone from previous round

[grand trout]

Oh it doesn't register doubles?

Interesting

[tardy belfry]

it used to, but not anymore

[tacit moon]

uuuh so

am I guaranteed type medals when I clear an elite 4 with a pair?

[full mesa]

What do you mean?

Each time you clear an e4 battle you get on type medal based on the sync move type your units had.
Ex MCPikachu, Misty, Brock will give you elec, water and rock type medals.
On maximum you can get 15 medals per week. You need 2 weeks to unlock MM for each region.

If you reuse a type,
Ex Falkner, Barry, Erika you'll only get flying and grass type medals since you already got the water type medal on the previous clear.

[tacit moon]

ok good

[lean lion]

Grookey ftw

Relying on Leaf's 30% flinch was painful ngl

[dense birch]

didn't try sleep instead?

[grand trout]

Is this pasio or johto?

[dense birch]

i'm t rying out Dawn sync nuke, but not having luck lol

[severe wharf]

Does anyone have any good optimal modifiers set on hard mode champions for possible maximum reward for new-mid players?

[grand trout]

Hard mode doesn't have modifiers, do you mean master mode?

[severe wharf]

Yes sorry

[swift swan]

We dont have a 15k preset, but do give the pins a read

We have a 2.5k preset that you can modify

[severe wharf]

Ok thank you

Where the pin sorry

[silver dirge]

+pins

[frozen depot]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[silver dirge]

All the info is in there

^

[severe wharf]

Thank you

[dense birch]

thank you for reminding me that bruno fight was part of the grass CS, ended up recreating a previous clear to beat him!

[thin knot]

What’s a good team for Palmer? I just got him to 3/5 and wanted to try him for some offtype ones

[undone ether]

Hmm 2nd sync.

didn't crit i think? orz

[old orchid]

Not sure why do you ask here instead of #916852389347196958. Anyway Palmer just needs someone to tank and a zone abuser (the only viable option is Hugh). If you don't want to use Hugh, you can bring PMUN enhancers like SC Steven for example

For more advice from experts, better asking in said channel again

[dense birch]

Yay done

[rain turret]

got the 15k, I think this is the 1st one I get with all teams being on-type

[thin knot]

Thanks, #Deleted Channel? I don’t think I have access to that I only asked here since the questions channel is gone and it was a champion stadium question

[silver dirge]

Have you tried clicking on the link? You should have access to it

#916852389347196958 underneath #strategy-and-research

[silver dirge]

Try again, I've fixed a lil issue with your roles. You should be able to see #poma-questions as usual too

[thin knot]

Thank you I can see it now

[drifting shell]

im struggling so much with the serena champion stadium

my grass type champions are just not doing enough dmg

[dense birch]

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1011675077764456519

Try these, they can be a bit time consuming to replicate but you can add better stuff as you need

I used these for my own clears

[drifting shell]

Oooh I don't have all of those f2p units

I have these grass units wondering if I could maybe swap them out?

[mellow linden]

1st off, evolve your Brendan’s Treecko and Selene’s Rowlet

Do you plan to go for any Master Mode points or do you just wanna clear in general?

[drifting shell]

i would love some master mode points, i want to get an excellence certificate so was aiming for around 5k pts

[steel kelp]

1k should be little difference

[mellow linden]

5k points total can be done without much difficulty increase over Hard Mode, so you can largely just put together solid teams using the Teambuilding 101 guidelines, start with 850 point presets from the pins (can use both on-type or off-type as a base as needed) and add the missing 150 points with some relatively free or low-impact parameters

[drifting shell]

Ive now evolved everyone i can haha, i love rowlet so wanted it to stay like that but i assume that hinders the power? 😅

[steel kelp]

Yes

It also means the grid is kinda useless

Well that you can’t take full advantage of it unless you evolve

[drifting shell]

i've sync gridded to the suggested ones near enough so i guess its time for rowlet to go farewell 😭

[rotund maple]

Does finishing CSMM also add the team to the hall of fame?

[mild hatch]

Yes

[rotund maple]

ic ic, ty

[drifting shell]

well that guide was goated with the xerneas solo, now i have 3k points already 😄

[verbal karma]

...I kinda hate to ask, but...Hop is unable to survive R2 Koga...who can I replace Hop with?

Someone who is quadqueue-friendly would be really preferable here

[silver dirge]

Avoid Koga R2 come back to him at R3 or 4

Should help with Hop's survivability

[verbal karma]

Hmm...that presents a problem...

R4 makes Koga's poison a problem...same with R3, possibly

[nocturne pawn]

just give him antitoxin if you’re that worried

though 3/5 cynthia should just decimate him anyway

[verbal karma]

That, and since R3 is already reserved for me, that means R2 is either Koga or Bruno, and I'd rather wanna worry about only one thing than two things

You get what I mean?

[nocturne pawn]

i honestly dont

[steel kelp]

Koga is not a problem

[nocturne pawn]

if you’re so worried about poison you can just swap vigilance for antitoxin

[silver dirge]

You should avoid Will on R4 and Bruno/Koga on R2 because their attacks are powered up by the round param - your tanks will have trouble surviving

[verbal karma]

Which means I'd have to worry about crits instead...

[nocturne pawn]

…

crits are 6.25%

its far less likely than poison

[steel kelp]

Enemy rarely if ever raises their crit

[nocturne pawn]

which is 60%

[verbal karma]

Okay, good point

[nocturne pawn]

vigilance for tanks is honestly outdated and now with ls swapping its a lot better to just adapt to the situatuon

[verbal karma]

Funnily enough, Will is who I have reserved for R3

[nocturne pawn]

champion stadium crits are just an unfortunate part of it that you cant really avoid

[silver dirge]

Okay that's good

See if you can move Koga Round 4

[nocturne pawn]

if you’re trying to pre sync anyqay

[steel kelp]

It’s Cynthia

[verbal karma]

R1 Karen...might have not been my smartest idea, looking back

[nocturne pawn]

post sync crits are a lot more likely especially on harder regions

[steel kelp]

She clears easy

[verbal karma]

But then again, I didn't expect R2 Koga to hit THAT hard

[verbal karma]

Okay, one last question

Who is more dangerous for R2: Koga or Bruno?

[silver dirge]

I'll have a look

[verbal karma]

Because it's sadly either or due to...an error in my judgement when it came to my R1 pick

[silver dirge]

Alternatively you could do R2 Will

[verbal karma]

For what is worth, I at least have more options for Grass-weak Bruno than for Ground-weak Koga

[silver dirge]

They're about the same ratio of weak moves:strong moves between Koga & Bruno

But yeah, you have more answers for Bruno so you could do him now

An Erika nuke should do away with him quickly

[steel kelp]

Bruno is literally free with what you have

Slap acerola and erika

[verbal karma]

...okay, SS Erika, SS Acerola and...whoever can survive for long enough for SS Erika to do her thing

[nocturne pawn]

nah ss ace should be able to tank

[silver dirge]

3rd could just be a flinch bot if you do happen to struggle, but Acerola tanks really well physically

[north crown]

If I'm not too late, Rowlet does have some niche case uses if you still want to keep it unevolved.

[nocturne pawn]

what niche use case exactly

[north crown]

oftopic, but LG and alternative gauge manager

while Decidueye is more useful, that doesn't mean Rowlet is useless.

[rich needle]

Wot

[nocturne pawn]

meh it kinda is

[silver dirge]

^

[rich needle]

You lack all the restrain

[nocturne pawn]

considering that like 80% of her grid is for leaf blade/spirit shackle

[rich needle]

You’re cuter

But multipliers are not there

[nocturne pawn]

and by extension you’re also losing her own passives

[silver dirge]

Pretty useless given the context of Pasio CS in the CS chat

[north crown]

Consider using Masked Royal here, as he provides speed buffs and debuffs, which SSErika greatly benefits from.

[verbal karma]

oh wow, R2 Bruno was easy in comparison to my failed R2 Koga attempts

ended up with SS Acerola/SS Erika/Dawn as the team

[north crown]

lmao overkill

[silver dirge]

SS Erika under terrain on Johto CS tends to do that

[nocturne pawn]

dawn is an interesting choice but if it works it works

[steel kelp]

Any grass unit under terrain is overkill

[north crown]

holdup.... what r u planning to take down Bertha with?

[steel kelp]

Especially with how many of them benefit from sun

Which acerola does both

[silver dirge]

Trin is doing regular CS, not Pasio CS

[verbal karma]

^

I already nailed Pasio CS

[nocturne pawn]

this is johto not pasio

personally id have gone with masked royal for def drops and speed buffs

but like i said if it works whatever

[verbal karma]

oh, whoops, replied to the wrong message

anyway, my idea with Dawn was that she's one of the higher defense supports and also has Power Syphon on top of being able to buff defense even further and then also heal if I really REALLY have to

[grand trout]

I wonder why more people dont recommend lenora

[verbal karma]

I...luckily didn't need the heal

[grand trout]

She can debuff both defenses

[verbal karma]

me when I don't even have Lenora

[grand trout]

Skill issue

[steel kelp]

She’s not in ticket pool

And people less likely to have her

[north crown]

• you should save her for units like Brendan

she even fixes his Leaf Storm acc, allowing his grid to go full nuke/DPS mode

[steel kelp]

Now if only they’d give brendan a special ls that’s dauntless and cs2 combined

[lunar meadow]

100% free to play clear. 15000 points.

No gacha 5* units (but I did need Riley, so a limited availability unit was used)

I love how easy Johto CS is.

[shell orchid]

I need some help optimizing rn
I'm doing hard, I don't have any good flying type attackers, and a few units were thrown in there because I couldn't think of a good third unit
In short it's a mess and I suck at team building help

[north crown]

Bluelink45 Roster Bookmark: #1009554906568462476 message

[shell orchid]

It's evolved a bit since then, so I might need to resend it

[north crown]

eh idm/idc

Hard Mode, right?

[shell orchid]

Yea

[north crown]

youg ot type medal progress?

[shell orchid]

No

[verbal karma]

OH GOD

even on R4, Koga and the left side deal way too much damage against Hop

[north crown]

no worries, just leave it to me

[verbal karma]

I might actually have to replace Hop entirely 😦

[north crown]

sleep stall:

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

just joking; I gotta help @shell orchid. Speaking of, are you familiar with basic teambuilding?

[shell orchid]

Supports to tank and buff whatever the strikes can't do by themselves, right?

[north crown]

• survive ig

it just depends on your approach really

Last question(s): how many snc orbs and/or gridded pairs do you have?

[shell orchid]

Very few. I have enough to prob grid like, one more unit?

[north crown]

Holdup... Flying type DPS? I believe there's no flying weak stage this week, or am I wrong?

yeah there shouldn't be

[shell orchid]

For some reason my brain registered grass as flying

[north crown]

You still have 2/5 Lana and 1/5 AnniN, or are those pairs gone?

[shell orchid]

I left the game about two years ago, came back and created a new account about a month ago so no, I don't think so

I got 1/5 Lana a few days ago tho if that helps

[north crown]

@shell orchid I cooked 😎 🔥

[WILL = POISON] Skyla, Looker, Mina/SSGladion

• Flying, Poison, Fairy. I used SSGlad as filler
  [KOGA = GROUND] SSBlue, Courtney, Kukui/Brock
• Water, Ground, Rock. Straightfoward enough; set Zone before syncing wth Courtney. You'd probably want to grid Natural Remedy for SSBlue.
  [BRUNO = GRASS] Leaf, SSErika, Silver/Blaine
• Normal, Grass, Fire. ☀️ + 🍃 = 😎 💯. Reason why I opted for Leaf is due to gauges. (SSErika turns: TM, Sun, TM. Sync with Silver if you don't have Blaine.)
  [KAREN = FIGHTING] Aaron, Riley, Brycen
• Bug, Fighting, Ice. Use Brycen's Haze(s) to get rid of evasion.

[LANCE = STEEL] Hop, Nanu, MCchu

• Steel, Dark, Electric. Should be free considering that Hop is there. MC is just there for pots.

[nocturne pawn]

karen was a pain in the ass as usual

[silver dirge]

[north crown]

Just bring a haze unit

[nocturne pawn]

yes and my haze units dont buff bea’s stats

[silver dirge]

Have you tried not missing? Usually works for me

[nocturne pawn]

[rich needle]

I mean you don’t neeeed mask

[paper summit]

imagine struggling on fighting weak, smh

[timid turtle]

[north crown]

You could just use Nita or something

[nocturne pawn]

yeah so i just dont do damage with my sync

wowee

[rich needle]

You’ll do damage

[nocturne pawn]

i mean i used her for brendan

[north crown]

Lenora is right thereeeee

[nocturne pawn]

i did try using her but hilbert dies too fast

she did work nicely though

team ppe 2 is great

[north crown]

Brendan is self sufficient.. hello?

[nocturne pawn]

i meant on the bea team

cuz ppe2 cancels evasive entry 2

[rich needle]

Hilbert died too quickly

[north crown]

ig that's intersting, tho idk if it's worth it considering units like BPClemont exists

[rich needle]

Kek

[nocturne pawn]

yeah i run half hp so i didnt have endure

dark pulse hits surprisingly hard

[rich needle]

Bro it’s calem

[nocturne pawn]

yeah i didnt use him on the attempt

but im saying hes not really the pinnacle of bulkiness

[rich needle]

Then use calem lenora

[nocturne pawn]

then who buffs speed

[north crown]

BPClemont, Hilbert, Bea ez

[woeful wolf]

Honestly im so confused. I have the low bulk parameters set and the NPCs just keep beating me. Are these stats low bulk for you?

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

[woeful wolf]

Well that explains that

[nocturne pawn]

johto cs stats are generally low across the board

[woeful wolf]

Im not sure what would be the best parameters to run. Wanna be able to beat the stage but not die and still get the extra rewards

Been trying multiple things

[nocturne pawn]

try 850

its not much harder and gets you the relevant rewards

[woeful wolf]

Ok

So which one would that be?

[mellow linden]

Check the pins. 1st link in the 2nd pinned message

That image is only the 2.5k params

[shell orchid]

It worked. Thanks!

[lunar meadow]

Invite Skyla to the Trainer Lodge.
It takes about 8 days, but her Unfezant is actually a really solid free flying type damage dealer.

Plus, Skyla and Swanna is a very strong free support, if you just need flying for the type medals.

[shell orchid]

I have been
Today I got 30 interaction points. Yesterday I got 40. It isn't going that well.

[verbal karma]

Even at 3/5, Cynthia is weak 😦

[nocturne pawn]

shes not

do you have her multipliers gridded?

thats so low

[verbal karma]

Okay, hold on, accidently gridded the wrong multipliers

I can fix that, thankfully

[manic kiln]

you suddenly have garchomp? I swear everytime you show your ground roster she's not there
but 3/5 should be enough to presync

[nocturne pawn]

yeah that was definitely a grid issue cuz 7.6k is super low

[verbal karma]

wdym "suddenly"?

She was always there?

[manic kiln]

bruh then why did you use naomi everytime

oh she was 1/5 before, did you just candy her

[verbal karma]

Yup, I did it just today

AUGH!!!

Almost!

[nocturne pawn]

probably couldve won if you quad queued

hilbert with bertha should work fine

[manic kiln]

should've used rock tomb instead of stealth rock, also use cynthia's tm to max her speed

[rotund lagoon]

You mean Sand Tomb?

[manic kiln]

yeah

[rotund lagoon]

Lol its fine

[manic kiln]

rock tomb is rock move lmao

[verbal karma]

Yeah, probably would have been smarter tbh

[verbal karma]

ugh, now I can't get back to my previous point because even at R4, Poison Jab and Iron Tail simply deal entirely too much damage against Hop... 😦

even when they are NOT critting

Poison Jab just...casually removes 2/3 of Hop's HP, and so does Iron Tail

[manic kiln]

with sandstorm Hop passive Healthy Benefits is not working

[verbal karma]

Who to replace Hop with then?

Gotta be someone with higher Defense than Hop

[left storm]

Hard to find many units with potions who are tankier

Then again, you're negating his best skill with sand

[nocturne pawn]

aaron

can do defense buffs has natively high def and can grid for flinch

[sick inlet]

Got flinch too

Yee

[rotund lagoon]

Where da Sonia at

[north crown]

Could opt to use Acerola instead for a more flinch heavy team comp.

[peak stirrup]

Is NC Silver strong enough to offtype at 3/5 EX?

[nocturne pawn]

absolutely

[peak stirrup]

SS Gladion as well?

Also 3/5 EX

[noble plaza]

Anyone I should do or avoid for certain rounds?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[undone ether]

check pins o-o

Just mind your Round 2 of either Koga or Bruno

[dense birch]

fairly certain Lenora is in general ticket pool. unless you meant Unova ticket pool? she's just one of the newer ones (along with like Olympia, Ryuki, and I think Kiawe). i have her, and i generally only chase NC units so far

[sharp willow]

Shes in the general scout pool, but not in any of the ticket scouts yet

[dense birch]

right that's what ticket pool means then

just because i remember i have her

[lean lion]

Pushing 3/5 EXR Geeta to her limit. Adding more points is nearly impossible.

R1 Will 4.6k presync

[rich needle]

Doink

[vivid chasm]

Ah, I didn't really know where to say this. But thanks for advice earlier I was able to get a clear in. Admittedly very scuffed due to limited built options, but a clear.

[undone ether]

a clear's a clear o/

https://vxtwitter.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1769914262515064852 wut.

3k whoa

[vivid chasm]

Are those the eggs?

[undone ether]

the fairy pokemon is an Event Pokemon.

the rest are eggs.

[toxic cobalt]

I didn't know Grookie was so cracked

Imagine being killed by a 3 damage ember

[thorn citrus]

omg i saw that death of Greninja by the 3 damage LOL was funny

[left storm]

?

Why are you surprised

Egg grookey is strong as fucj

[undone ether]

First time seeing grookey deal dmg iirc

[lean lion]

I cleared with Grookey too but with Leaf support and Blaine. Does really good damage for an eggmon.

[lean lion]

okay that's vs Pasio Serena mb

[dense birch]

[left storm]

Bruh I've been using this pic for 2+ months

This is 3k bertha

[sick inlet]

10 next move up lol

[lunar meadow]

Do what you need to, to win.

[left storm]

Hey it's not like doing 40k with 0 PMUN isn't impressive

[warped jungle]

Any of these usable for csmm grass type??

Can I make multiple poison teams with these units?

For 2500 points.

I've never completely cleared CSMM before.

Last week I was stuck at rock type
Before that it was fairy I think

[sick inlet]

Do you mean Stalling teams?

[warped jungle]

Yeah poison stall

I read dragalgaes kit and it seems like she can do it on her own with a tank in poison weak

Maybe with xerneas or something

[sick inlet]

In the picture, I believe only 3? poison units offer Badly poisoned
And you have SSLeaf to badly a poison a stage by herself

You will have to

Suffer

On last one