#Champion Stadium

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lean lion
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Looking forward to it. No CSMM for us this week but now we'll have something to clear.

old orchid
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Pasio CS comes to rescue

toxic cobalt
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Battle Rally? TabithaHehe

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lean lion
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BR is fun for different reasons. CS is my first love!

lean lion
crystal notch
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lmao look at this

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and this

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yeah she was a menace back then

toxic cobalt
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Arts is taking names

crystal notch
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LMAO

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nah just remembering the good old days

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of 12.5k

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when sprint didn't exist

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and field did not haunt BR

old orchid
crystal notch
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and BR didn't exist but that's beside the point

crystal notch
old orchid
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@tired sleet will be proud of you

crystal notch
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anyways don't do power on hit

toxic cobalt
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Do it TabithaHehe

crystal notch
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did it count separately for her hits ???

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it did right

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no quarter 5 hit WS

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fun time

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I mean

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NCBlue exists now

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so...

undone ether
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Indeed 😮

crystal notch
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and NCSilver has guaranteed flinch for SSLyra non havers

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as for I, I will ||sleep cheese||

nocturne pawn
crystal notch
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Ah, that's not too bad then

nocturne pawn
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its just multihit so it hits hard by default

glass valley
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MM help request - how do I defeat Phoebe? I need 750 pts but used all my good sync pairs already…
This is round 4 stat debuff

toxic cobalt
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You haven't used Giovanni yet

glass valley
undone ether
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he's got SS Gio, that's probaably why he's asking 😮

old orchid
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You have to bring a gauge support with him. Gauge supports are who buff +6 speed and/or setup Move Gauge Acceleration field effect quickly

wide adder
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Ah

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I have trouble looking through that many images myself

undone ether
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i dont see his Mewtwo/Giovanni though HMMM

wide adder
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Just to add to what gakon said for ssgio

old orchid
glass valley
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I also have Crobat left for bad poison but I was having trouble getting a good stall pair together to live long enough

old orchid
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Sabrina doesnt help SS Gio much

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And she needs gauge to buff speed (Reflect Pep rally)

toxic cobalt
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I did mean normal Gio, for the GHost and all

old orchid
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I think i have made a mistake

old orchid
undone ether
blazing lake
nocturne pawn
nocturne pawn
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sabrina being slow herself is somewhat rectified via pep rally

cinder summitBOT
nocturne pawn
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scratch that

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very fast

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and even faster if hes pb’d

old orchid
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SS Gio is a physical Ground strike so Sabrina doesnt have much synergy with him

keen jasper
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It's almost time

hidden monolith
swift swan
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Updated

toxic cobalt
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Additional effects KukuiWOO

undone ether
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Interesting....

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okaaaya battle rally first o/

main crow
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Lodge Steven with additional effect param is stupid lol

trail smelt
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Man I keep forgetting to make next week’s team

spice turret
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I need help making an team for jhoto elite 4

silver dirge
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Choose a damage dealer for each stage & accompanying supports to help their buffs. Send your teams here and we'll provide some feedback

undone ether
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aight time to attempt this CSMM

verbal karma
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Trying to do R3 Karen, but I need to replace my support because Roxanne takes entirely too much damage

silver dirge
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Roxanne is a horrible support option there, take a look at your damage dealer needs and choose a better support. Remember how we talked about improvement last time?

verbal karma
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Yeah

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That's why I am asking

silver dirge
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Alright so what does Olivia need?

sick inlet
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Put Shauna

verbal karma
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Meaning the support can focus on defenses

silver dirge
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I'm talking about buffs

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Olivia buffs herself way too slowly

verbal karma
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...does she?

silver dirge
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You tell me, how many turns would it take you to get to +6 attack +3 crit

verbal karma
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She only needs two X Attack and one TM

silver dirge
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Are you at max offenses?

verbal karma
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Because Bertha also has Team Crit Entry

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silver dirge
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She can, but when you've got so many physical options available, no need not to

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A support like Hop/Shauna/Hilbert/Sonia can get her up & ready to start attacking really quickly

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The more damage you do the easier you beat the stage

verbal karma
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Okay, someone suggested Shauna, so Imma do that

silver dirge
verbal karma
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...oh no...Shauna also takes too much damage 😦

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1/3 from a single Aerial Ace

silver dirge
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You just need to take enough hits til Olivia wipes the stage, they're low bulk. Reset for a better rotation

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You can also go Aaron if you want, he heals & buffs team defense

sick inlet
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Hmm

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I didn't start yet

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What a bummer

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main crow
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I know Hilbert is also defensively bad but he's also like one of the best option for Olivia

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Fast set up for both atk and speed, the things Olivia wants most

main lake
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i'm not really one of the helpers but i do want to add that hilbert with endurance and def up on TM is plenty enough to soak hits for at least a full sync cycle when i use him

rain turret
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any tips for koga?

old orchid
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you can try to defeat him before Critical Shield, or use Defog to remove it

verbal karma
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...maybe I really should pick Aaron instead?

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...nevermind, even Aaron dies too fast

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Maybe something is wrong with my parameters

urban shell
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Are those good parameters?

rain turret
urban shell
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Tina is such a nice supp

undone ether
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she is :o~

rain turret
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and 15k done

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koga was the hardest,the rest was pretty easy

undone ether
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man. this is rough ._.
Well i'm finished with this week's CSMM

undone ether
rain turret
main crow
silver dirge
rain turret
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ss gladion on fairy zone melted bruno so quick

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silver dirge
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I'm offering you a solution to the issue you're facing, doesn't hurt to try

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You can afford Max HP 2

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Take off one of the Attacks

main crow
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And the interference immunity too, I'm not sure why you didn't grab that free 50pts

old orchid
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Bertha doesnt need trap

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so its a free param indeed

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undone ether
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ss blue died o7

urban shell
sweet ivy
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oh my god i will do not nice things to fire weak koga

silver dirge
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SeleneLul on the bright side he's like the hardest stage out of Kanto, Johto, Unova and maybe even Alola, so you're going to have a breezy time after him DogWow

verbal karma
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I still need help with R3 Karen 😦

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Replacing Atk ^3 with Max HP ^2 didn't help

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Like, at all

sweet ivy
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ok whats the param to one shot koga with silver

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on sync

silver dirge
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Send your current ones here, maybe we can adjust that way

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But your goal is minimal bulk as possible

sweet ivy
silver dirge
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Screenshots work! Typing them out would be pretty tedious

sweet ivy
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ok i did it

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took TWO silver syncs this time

silver dirge
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gg SidneyYippee

sick inlet
hidden monolith
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How long does each region stay for? is it two or three weeks ?

manic kiln
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Doing some curry run with trash units, lord she’s terrible LarryDead needed all the help to clear, last week with sidney was even worse

silver dirge
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Schedule for both Hoenn & Johto is in the pins, it's around a month

hidden monolith
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Cause apparently I don't have MM unlocked for Johto

verbal karma
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Ah, shoot, not only is Aaron unable to tank, but his passives ALSO prevent quadqueing...

hidden monolith
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main crow
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Ah already answered ignore me

undone ether
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hum that leaves me with 1 more sync pair and i'm done for serena's stadium Hmm

hidden monolith
verbal karma
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Like, even replacing Atk ^5 with defensive parameters doesn't help, Aaron STILL takes too much damage

undone ether
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unfortunately none.

hidden monolith
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Could throw a sun setter there

grave wyvern
sick inlet
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The max HP4 will not matter as Olivia will obliterate them

grave wyvern
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Adaman already has the sun handled

hidden monolith
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Only when he syncs

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And when entering the field

silver dirge
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So, handled DianthaSmile

hidden monolith
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Pretty sure you won't have sun up for the 2nd sync if you want to sync with a support before

grave wyvern
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Why would you bother against Grimsley with Adaman

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Especially a 3/5 Adaman

hidden monolith
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Ah well

undone ether
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Solar Beam lets go

grave wyvern
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We love an instant solar beam!

undone ether
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He's 2/5, might as well.

hidden monolith
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Do you think I should be fine with making 5 different teams or nah ;-;

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I could off-type some of them I guess

undone ether
hidden monolith
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My Silver isn't powerboosted so I doubt he can do much

undone ether
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like so

hidden monolith
hidden monolith
undone ether
toxic cobalt
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Grass is easy don’t worry about it

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You can make five teams

hidden monolith
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You sure?

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I can think of some dpss

toxic cobalt
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You can sycamore duo four of the five stages

hidden monolith
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The thing is, can Brendan deal with it if he is not EX'd?

hidden monolith
toxic cobalt
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Yeah he is a powerhouse. And you have Adaman and Dawn and Brendan and SS Erika and Silver i don’t see you having issues

hidden monolith
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Mix Red too!

toxic cobalt
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Mix red too indeed

hidden monolith
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Do you think Chase/MixRed could duo?

manic kiln
hidden monolith
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Or I need a bulky support as a 3rd?

hidden monolith
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Can throw Eevee/Leaf for potions and to boost Kanto circle

swift swan
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you don't need a bulky support if you kill them fast enough

hidden monolith
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Are you serious 😀

swift swan
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that's the nature of offensive CSMM

hidden monolith
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Should I put him in a team for his sync accel?

swift swan
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hmm yeah, outside of Brendan, the rest of your grass attackers are physical

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chase and mix red will decimate the stage. since that's a pretty strong core, don't waste them on the easier E4s

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check pomatools, see which ones have a lot of gimmicks + high bulk

urban shell
hidden monolith
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While MixRed also debuffs spdef

swift swan
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that can work

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ah damn the special CS is tomorrow? i want to try going mono-grass

toxic cobalt
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Doesn't sound too hard?

silver dirge
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Who is the Serena stage designed for? Pikathink Adaman?

hidden monolith
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Maybe MixRed tbh

silver dirge
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Not MixRed, it debuted long before he was a thing

hidden monolith
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He can -1 on spatk and -2 on spdef on every turn while those are the only things she buffs

hidden monolith
old orchid
silver dirge
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Oh it looks like the CS debuted before Adaman as well, you're right

old orchid
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he also reran during the same time

silver dirge
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Makes sense

verbal karma
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Not to mention I actually cannot use Aaron anymore

toxic cobalt
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Who came out in April 2023?

verbal karma
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Because as it turns out, it's actually Karen's passive that prevents quadqueing period

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Meaning I am required to instead use a support who has Adrenaline, like Shauna, for example

silver dirge
keen jasper
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Alola VA was in May - June 2023 IIRC

silver dirge
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That would make sense

hidden monolith
old orchid
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Alola VA was in May only

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both parts were released in the same month

silver dirge
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SS Hau's release date is listed 28/04

keen jasper
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Yeah, because the Hisui clan leaders were released on June

manic kiln
keen jasper
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Ah it was only Irida who was released in June

sick inlet
swift swan
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the stage is designed for SS Lyra. Satisfied snarl? no quarter? ramming speed? doesn't matter if she's eternally flinched EthanGenius
(i am 100% bullshitting)

sick inlet
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@verbal karma sorry I just saw your reply now cause at work 😄

keen jasper
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I'm still waiting for a grass-weak stage with Unflappable and Sentry Entry x3 so I can see Lyrabi havers suffer

manic kiln
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this is better than acerola. he can flinch and -def

hidden monolith
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Lycanroc supremacy

manic kiln
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triple doggo can easily wipe this too

hidden monolith
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Yeah but Paulo is limited

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keen jasper
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I'll be sure to remember this whenever I see someone clear a grass-weak stage with her SerenaSip
#1009554906568462476 message

hidden monolith
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Tbh Grass looks extremely easy, you don't even need MFs

sick inlet
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manic kiln
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I don't even take hp param DawnNom

sick inlet
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Sorry I only saw tag, Lost TabithaHehe

manic kiln
sick inlet
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After finishing my Lance fight i'll showcase

hidden monolith
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Is a 3/5 Olivia better than a 1/5 SS Diantha 😞

sick inlet
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By a mile

hidden monolith
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What have I done

manic kiln
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1/5 diantha is just an utility unit, her dmg is just ok, but she can be the only dps with good supports

swift swan
verbal karma
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She can obliterate the sides just fine, but Karen only lost 1/4 of her HP

swift swan
swift swan
hidden monolith
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She's a fav, I guess rock zone helps a ton

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Can she even clear 3k Karen? (at 1/5)

verbal karma
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That said, Olivia used this grid and was definitely fully buffed

swift swan
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yeah that looks okay

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regardless, karen shouldn't have taken that little damage. try again and see

swift swan
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pink diamond storm is still pretty good DPS despite being AOE

silver dirge
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Definitely can

grave wyvern
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This is not true DianthaSmile

manic kiln
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any 1/5 can clear 3k with the proper supports

hidden monolith
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Idk why but my favs seem to do crappy damage when I use them

silver dirge
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We gotta be just a 'lil mindful of what we say in the help channels, don't want to accidentally misguide someone

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It may just be a parameter or teambuilding issue

hidden monolith
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I have no idea who to pair her up with tbf

silver dirge
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Someone who can make use of rock zone & a support to handle em, all sorted

hidden monolith
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I guess Shauna works pretty fine

swift swan
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an attack support, for one

keen jasper
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SS Diantha is self-sufficient with her buffs thanks to Honing Hit 9

hidden monolith
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My Olivia is only 2/5, should I still give it a try

hidden monolith
silver dirge
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For Johto CS? Absolutely

swift swan
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honing hit is a bit slow

sharp willow
silver dirge
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2/5 Olivia already has access to her most important tiles

hidden monolith
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Aight gonna try it next week

sharp willow
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Spending 3 turns on your self buffing is a lot, even if it is happening while you do other stuff

trail smelt
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Ready for next week

undone ether
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i'm still trying to get Lodge Skyla. For now ive put Blue/Anni Skyla/SC Steven against Koga next week o/

hidden monolith
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Blue should handle flying-weak CS just fine from my own experience

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Especially when you have access to flying zone

sick inlet
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I didn't get proper flinches, I also messed up my queueing and only Olivia is benefiting from Gears.
Ate a sync and had I been more lucky with flinches I would have hit my 3rd Sync sooner.

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Even while the run basically went wrong and I even que'd wrong moves, still managed to finish with this combo
@verbal karma

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Think it was a bad idea to send this on bad signal
Someone clean my spam HildaCry

sharp willow
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Bertha can act as a pseudo support when needed

verbal karma
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AHA!

sick inlet
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She tanks better than some supports

verbal karma
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So suddenly, Bertha CAN be a pseudo-support?

sharp willow
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She always could be?

sick inlet
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I did mention that

hidden monolith
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for the past hour

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or so

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hidden monolith
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You're supposed to run a rock DPS

sharp willow
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I mean, I have issues with that team but theyre basically entirely gauge related

sick inlet
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sharp willow
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And your dps would need to be self sufficient for that, yes

sick inlet
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The other day you mentioned it you needed offensive buffs while you put Bertha to which she didn't help at all as Courtney doesn't benefits from sandstorm or gets offensive buff from Bertha

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In that case

verbal karma
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Well, I don't have a self-suficient ground-type strike

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Hell, my best Ground-tyoe strike is Naomi

sick inlet
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Naomi is not bad tbh

verbal karma
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It's why I had to poison stall the ground-weak Steven last month

sick inlet
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Only problem is she can't be EX'd sadly.

verbal karma
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Because Naomi just couldn't cut it

manic kiln
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ground weak: bertha (nuke) + courtney (dps/utility) + tank/support
rock weak: Olivia (nuke) + bertha (tank/utility) + utility/support
easy budget clear

sick inlet
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In both cases, you will need an offensive support if possible

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manic kiln
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iirc I uploaded a vid of my clear for that steven stage CourtneyBruh

sick inlet
manic kiln
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yeah but bertha nuke is enough to KO him

sick inlet
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But clearable

manic kiln
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even with all the def buffs

sick inlet
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Bertha OP

manic kiln
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I think Trin managed to nuke steven but died to sides aoe

sick inlet
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@lean lion we talking Karen, rock weak.
And mentioning ground weak from last week because Bertha useable in both.

lean lion
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Yeah figured from your screenshot don't mind me

sick inlet
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MalvaReckless I saw the message

lean lion
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26k hp with 3k params shouldn't be too hard to nuke

verbal karma
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...ugh...now I just can't get a run where Karen doesn't use Drill Peck

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and Drill Peck is an instant reset at this point

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Okay, I don't get it

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I just don't get it

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Why does the sync deal so little damage?!

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Attack, crit and Speed are fully buffed

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Olivia is 5/5, EX'd and has nuke sync

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and the sandstorm is here, too

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What else am I missing?!

sick inlet
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Are you dying to sync?

sharp willow
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that is 100% not critting

undone ether
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yeah try again o-o/

nocturne pawn
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silver dirge
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You can vaguely see the reflect screen, it's a non-crit

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The damage is a pretty clear indicator too

sharp willow
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the shield effects also make a sound effect when theyre not ignored by crits

verbal karma
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Damn...that means this is the second time in a row the mid wasn't critted... 😦

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Just how often will I have to reset until the mid gets critted, too?

nocturne pawn
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it shouldnt be that often

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but ive had times where 80% failed like 8 times in a row

verbal karma
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😦

sharp willow
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just gotta keep at it

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there is never a guarantee that itll crit with Olivias sync

nocturne pawn
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emphasis on shouldnt

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not will not

verbal karma
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Damn, now I have to deal with Drill Peck related resets...again

fading blade
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Is there a command for tierlist based on extra energy expand

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?

keen jasper
fading blade
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Oops sorry

sand tide
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Can i get some team comp and preset advice for 12.5k? Havent played in awhile and have forgotten everything lol

nocturne pawn
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but why are riley and spectrier only 4/5

sand tide
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Didnt finish the event

nocturne pawn
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well in the future you should always 5/5 free pairs

sand tide
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Yeah, stopped playing for a bit though lol

nocturne pawn
sand tide
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Nothing i can do about that now

sand tide
nocturne pawn
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you can def do 15k if you wanted to

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but channel pins have presets for 2.5k if you want to

sand tide
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Yeah i just don't remember what the common nuke teams are, aside from adaman/bulu and irida/red

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And trying to do 2.5k with a supereffective team is not working 😂

hard notch
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What’s the best order to the johto champion stadium

sharp willow
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It doesnt really matter

nocturne pawn
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its johto

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you can probably face stomp it with a semi developed roster

sharp willow
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Fighting Will first is probably a good idea since a lot of poison characters rely on the enemy being poisoned, but outside of that the parameters are barely going to affect your gameplay, if at all

hard notch
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Ty

sand tide
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Managed to get 13k woo

lunar meadow
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Omg, I forgot how easy Johto CS is.
Optimize run was so easy. No silly Phoebe with her 400% base health

steel kelp
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Question would it really matter if I ran hjasmine with SS hilbert for seun or just stick with Lucian this is for next week electric

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Now I’m thinking nc blue hjasmine SS hilbert

north crown
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Hau is literally right there + open slot for electric terrain unit.

silver dirge
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The question's about SS Hilbert though SeleneLul

silver dirge
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What move level is Hilbert btw?

steel kelp
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It may or may not matter but he’s also 5/5 and I gave him but enigma

silver dirge
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I see

steel kelp
silver dirge
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In that case you'll be done with the stage too quick before it matters SeleneLul

steel kelp
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The one time the 10 extra energy matters

silver dirge
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Try out your options and see what you like, I wouldn't go H-Jasmine just for SEUN considering he can do it himself

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Lucian sets up his nuke very nicely, just hit the TM before you sync and boom

steel kelp
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Wait would terrain help or would it not count

silver dirge
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It does count

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So does rebuff

steel kelp
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More funny stuff

silver dirge
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But yeah you'll be done with the stage quick regardless

steel kelp
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SS hilbert is just a funny guy

silver dirge
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How's he feel with that double rebuff DogWow you've pre much got built in WTZ

steel kelp
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It’s amazing

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Going for quad rebuff next week LucianScheme

silver dirge
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You know it caps at 3 right bceStare2

steel kelp
silver dirge
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Hey 60% is 60%

hidden monolith
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Can anyone even rebuff to -3?

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I thought most of them can only reach -2

steel kelp
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Well not one unit

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But with 2 yes

hidden monolith
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Ah yeah that makes sense ig

left storm
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-3 is barely better than -2

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10%

hard notch
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Way way easier

lunar meadow
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5/5 Sylveon + 1/5 Wallygarde

Or 1/5 Shiny Stoutland and 1/5 Coalossal/Gourgeist

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Or I guess any of the NCKantrio, and shiny Stoutland

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Genesect and a NCKantrio can do it too

undone ether
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lets go CSMM Serena~

tardy belfry
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did they forgot to add the battle tips to the neo cs? lol

old orchid
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Its a rerun and 4/5 of CS stages are the same existing ones anyway

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You can read the battle tips of Champion battle once you get there

steel kelp
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They should’ve never given us perma field WEEZing

undone ether
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oh? there's a perma field? interesting.

silver dirge
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Oo SS Acerola going to have a field day with that one

steel kelp
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It’s really funny since most grass units have sun tiles and they all benefit from terrain

silver dirge
hard notch
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Wait so this champion stadium is like in our favor?

silver dirge
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What do you mean?

paper summit
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of course not

steel kelp
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It never is

paper summit
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it just happens to have a good parameter for the focus typing, but perma field is good regardless

hard notch
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Oh I read perma field like grass Terrian was on

steel kelp
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The problem is grass is just too stacked of a type for it to matter

hard notch
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sorry for misunderstanding

silver dirge
hard notch
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Oooooh okay

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Well sadly for me i don't have many grass types

steel kelp
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And since SS acerola has terrain on entry and can set sun she makes it a joke

silver dirge
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Not mandatory to use grass types, you can off-type or poison stall it regularly GaryThumbsup

steel kelp
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^

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Treat it like normal cs except everyone has the same weakness offtype and stall still work

hushed sorrel
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It was relatively striaght forward if yall need some grass ideas 😂

hard notch
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I know it's not mandatory but I like to at least have 1 of the type to do the most damage

silver dirge
silver dirge
hard notch
hushed sorrel
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Fark that's tough

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The move level will make it hard

silver dirge
# hard notch

Alright that's workable, the move levels may present some issues, but with some point adjustments we can help you through it

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There's always poison stall as well

hushed sorrel
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Gladion is at least 1 clear

hard notch
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True but poison stall will only work for one fight

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so ill have to use like leaf for it

silver dirge
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It can work for more

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Do you have any BP vouchers?

hard notch
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saving brenden or erika for boss

silver dirge
hard notch
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I got Barry roserade

hushed sorrel
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Yea poison stall will be the way to go. You can make at least 3 stall teams easily from f2p

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The theory is. Max def buffs. Max Enemy debuff. Poison. Heal. And just chill

hard notch
#

Yeah a poison stall team I got help with was SS leaf, janine and arron

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pretty much spam defend order and venom drench

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then attack

hushed sorrel
#

Nice

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You also have ghetsis to form another

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Bp Erika.

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Sycamore

hard notch
#

Ill save brenden for final fight due to mega

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Got a team idea for him

hushed sorrel
#

Without inertia his dmg might be average. u can certainly try. Don't always gotta max the 3k anyway

hard notch
#

Nah doing regular no master

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only care for the gems really

silver dirge
#

Oh then you're fine

hard notch
#

No poison moves during the boss?

old orchid
#

you can read stage info on pomatools site, the link is in the pins

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Go to Champion Stadium -> Go back to Week 1 on Pasio Special Stadium

main crow
#

Perma field and more potent debuff effect... Just asking to be Lyra'd

left storm
#

You could've won with just Lyra tbfh

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Perma field = sslyra wins

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There's no contest

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Even 4k, even offtype

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Staggering 9 moment

main crow
#

True but I'm not in the mood to solo stuffs

left storm
#

Understandable

hidden monolith
#

Can Nanu/SS Erika/Shauna work against Lorelei?

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I have better grass units but some people said that it may be overkill so I'll start off with my worse ones

old orchid
#

i dont see why not

hidden monolith
#

Alright, I'm not sure about my params so I'll make something up and post it here so you guys can confirm that it's fineSquirtleThumbsUp

old orchid
#

its good enough, and you can add more strength and attack

hidden monolith
#

So like Attack & Sp. Attack ^ 3 and Strength ^ 2 ?

old orchid
#

or Strength 2 + Max HP 2

hidden monolith
#

Will do Max HP

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Oh I have it already

#

Maybe "No stat reduction" and change Nanu?

old orchid
#

that works too, you can slot in a Grassy Terrain setter or another sun abuser there

hidden monolith
#

I don't think I have anyone to apply Grassy Terrain with

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Except SS Acerola

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But that is just unnecessary

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Gonna try Riley for ramp, if I sync twice before she syncs the first time I should be able to clear it

old orchid
#

ramping is not a problem for Erika, she already has 30% to lower 1 CD after doing any action under run

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and Riley is a deadweight there

silver dirge
#

You should be able to get 2 syncs in before they do without ramp anyway

hidden monolith
#

It actually worked, I just got flinched

hidden monolith
#

Oh

old orchid
#

its an innate passive

hidden monolith
#

Mhm

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But it never proc'd before

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I'll just add a speed buffer as a 3rd

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For ramming speed

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I think it's fine ?

old orchid
#

if it works, it works

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you dont need to care about overkilling, as long as you have enough pairs for the rest of CS

hidden monolith
#

Should I use Adaman/SS Acerola ?

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For Bertha

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I think of just keeping Chase and MixRed for Champion

old orchid
#

are these your remaining CS stages?

hidden monolith
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No, I have only done Lorelei for now

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I just cleared Bertha with Adaman and SS Acerola, but if it's too much I can reset

old orchid
#

have you done planning for Grimsley and Bruno?

hidden monolith
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Not really tbh

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Is off-typing viable

old orchid
#

it always is

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if you are still uncertain, better making some plans first

hidden monolith
#

Then yeah, can run NCRed for Grimsley

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and SS Lana for Bruno

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I still have Brendan, idk if he can do much without his EX

old orchid
#

is he 2/5 at least?

hidden monolith
#

4/5

old orchid
#

then its totally fine

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the only problem is turning both reduction params off, because he has mixed attacks

north crown
#

what u guys trying?

hidden monolith
#

Then
Bertha: SS Acerola/Adaman/anything
Bruno: Brendan/Sonia/Dawn
Serena: MixRed/Chase/NC Leaf

hidden monolith
undone ether
hidden monolith
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So far I've only cleared Lorelei

old orchid
#

your Grimsley team looks weird

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SS Mina's rain boosts Grimsley's attacks

hidden monolith
#

Riley is just there for ramp

old orchid
#

and NC Red wants Ice Zone more

hidden monolith
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Oh you're correct, I forgot about it

old orchid
#

Red doesnt need ramp

hidden monolith
#

No Grusha/Irida

old orchid
#

no egg Glaceon either

hidden monolith
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Yup

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I missed that event pretty sure

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I have this, can I decide on his evolution?

north crown
#

no cuz fire

hidden monolith
#

Oh, didn't see that

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Then yeah no ice zone

old orchid
#

anyway, replace Riley with someone who debuffs spdef

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or hail if NC Red is 3/5

hidden monolith
#

Could use NC Rosa instead of SS Mina

hidden monolith
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Then BP Candace/NC Red/NC Rosa

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Does it look good ?

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I don't have it gridded

old orchid
#

you can always make a new preset

hidden monolith
#

Sadly I cannot afford 4 extra energy but only 2, which doesn't help me at all

old orchid
#

just make a different grid with hail tiles gridded, not a problem at all

hidden monolith
#

Alright, hold on

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Does it look okay?

old orchid
#

looking good

silver dirge
#

Better

hidden monolith
#

Oh big brain Arch

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I'm not sure if my params are good ?

silver dirge
#

They look fine

hidden monolith
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I dropped "Tech sync pairs take x3 damage" cause I had 6050 and nothing to swap it with

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Aight, gonna try it

silver dirge
#

If you find them too bulky you can pick up some attack & drop Max HP 4

hidden monolith
#

Gonna see, I'm running go viral on NC Rosa so I should have a lot more time to actually DPS

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So lovely, no effort needed

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Aight, Grimsley is done too

hidden monolith
#

Gonna leave Bertha for R4

old orchid
#

the rest looks fine

hidden monolith
#

Aighy, ty

undone ether
#

2 down 3 more to go

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LMAO

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Dangit Bruno

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you Full Heal'd 😭

hidden monolith
#

Is he annoying

old orchid
#

not at all

hidden monolith
#

Ngl I can maybe take "Cannot change Weather/Terrain/Zone"

old orchid
#

you dont even run WTZ, so its a free param

hidden monolith
#

And then take Max HP 2 and drop Max HP 4

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Should I replace Dawn with Aaron? I have 50 spare points and can probably take interference

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Oh maybe I can just run Hostile environment on Sonia

old orchid
#

Sonia is Ground weak, so be careful

hidden monolith
#

And take status condition

old orchid
#

also she doesnt need HE1

hidden monolith
#

This is why I did not use NC Red against him

old orchid
#

he has a couple of Ground moves

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check the info on pomatools

hidden monolith
#

Oh okay okay

undone ether
#

Lodge Sycamore didn't get to nuke ;_; he got critted. orz. Ah wells done with Bruno

hidden monolith
#

Do I replace Sonia with someone who can buff speed faster? or do that over Dawn?

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Gonna replace Dawn with a 3/5 SS Mina

undone ether
#

For gauge, Sonia can Move Gauge Boost when she uses her Potions

old orchid
#

do you tank with Sonia?

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her Potion gives MGA effect whenever it is used, so saying Sonia not helping with gauge is not true

hidden monolith
#

I do not tank with Sonia no

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I know that she has access to that

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Then I guess the problem is Dawn?

old orchid
#

change the tank to Sonia

hidden monolith
#

If so, I could use Oleana over Dawn

old orchid
#

or bring a speed buffer and continue with Dawn instead

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no, Oleana doesnt help

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she drags the gauge down

hidden monolith
hidden monolith
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And move gauge boost

old orchid
#

thats a waste of the slot

hidden monolith
#

I ain't gonna use her in some other place so it's fine

#

Oh

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Then SS Mina over Dawn ?

old orchid
hidden monolith
#

Did it

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Keep Dawn or replace with Mina ?

old orchid
#

either works, just let Sonia tank

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i prefer Dawn because she can chip the sides slowly

hidden monolith
#

Is R3 the problem

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He syncs way too early

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Gonna do Bertha real quick and then Bruno on R4

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They all get nuked by his first sync

old orchid
#

Adaman has no trouble pre syncing Bertha, even with half sync cd

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do note that R4 param also prevents you from quad queue, so either perform turn denial to beat him pre sync, or switch to post sync params

undone ether
#

uh did they upgrade the gem reward for beating Serena? i remember it was 100 gems last time.

hidden monolith
#

Oh, I already did R3 Bertha D:

hidden monolith
#

It's just annoying against Bruno

sick inlet
#

Think it's possible to solo all stages

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How many busted grass types we got

hidden monolith
#

SC Sonia, MixRed, Adaman, Victor, SS Lyra

sick inlet
#

Missing 2 from that list

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Let's go down a notch

hidden monolith
#

I'm missing 3

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💔😢

sick inlet
#

SS Leaf probably can Solo Stall

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4

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Need 1

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Yeah no

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No need to suffer

#

Duo it is

hidden monolith
#

Mannnnnnnnn Bruno is annoying

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Brendan can't tank his sync

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And he's on dauntless so Vigilance isn't even an option

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Seems like off-type to me

sick inlet
#

Brendan's Sync

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Is physical

#

You can give up dauntless

#

Your nuke is probably what's gonna clear stage

old orchid
north crown
#

What's Pasio CS gimmick again?

old orchid
sick inlet
#

Me who didn't even start IrisDerp

hidden monolith
#

But he gets one shotted

sick inlet
#

Brendan is glass but usually can survive post sync

hidden monolith
#

WHY THE FUCK IS HE GOING FOR BULLDOZE BACK TO BACK

sick inlet
#

Wouldn't you do the same

hidden monolith
#

I mean......

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He's an NPC tho they have no rights >:(

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I don't think I can turnskip this

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ooooo maybe Eevee/Leaf

sick inlet
#

NPCs have feelings

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They even wait for you

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Every day when you login

hidden monolith
#

Feelings are not rights

sick inlet
#

Damn

hidden monolith
#

Which one is the best one to pick among all those

sick inlet
#

Attack if not stalling

hidden monolith
#

Yeah alright

old orchid
#

is that for post syncing?

hidden monolith
#

Mhm

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But SS Lana just got critted

sick inlet
#

SS lana is more glass than Brendan

old orchid
#

Brendan can tank post sync just fine

sick inlet
#

If you were suffering Brendan

old orchid
#

for offtype you have to kill Bruno pre sync

sick inlet
#

SS Lana will not even live

hidden monolith
#

Do I use NCLeaf then

hidden monolith
#

She died to the next one tho

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I have SS Korrina

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To off-type with

old orchid
#

might as well just stick to post sync with Brendan

#

its way easier to work with

hidden monolith
#

But he does not survive 😭

old orchid
#

how do you know?

#

you didnt even try post sync yet

hidden monolith
#

I did

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He doesn't live that sync

old orchid
#

what do you params look like

#

the pins always have helpful resources to look into

sick inlet
#

Pins

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Good Gakon

hidden monolith
#

I can take status condition as well

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I'm at 3050

old orchid
#

no wonder why

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you picked strike takes x3 damage

hidden monolith
#

Aight, I actually have to go out now but I will read your messages

old orchid
#

Brendan is strike

hidden monolith
sick inlet
#

Brendan rip

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Big rip

hidden monolith
#

I swear

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It was on Tech

old orchid
#

the rest looks fine

hidden monolith
#

As I said, he still doesn't tank

#

Will the bump between 135 to 140 do the difference

sick inlet
#

Do you not have gears?

hidden monolith
#

Barely

sick inlet
#

785 dmg

#

Is like nearly a 100 above Brendan's hp

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With 0 gear

#

So if you have any proper gear + theme skills from Dawn

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You should survive that

hidden monolith
#

I'm running ice gear

sick inlet
#

No grass?

hidden monolith
#

Nope

sick inlet
#

Or skill gear?

hidden monolith
#

Maybe I do have some skill gears

sick inlet
#

Any pin skill hear

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MC, grass, Hoenn

hidden monolith
sick inlet
#

Will save his ass

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Filter > Pin

hidden monolith
#

What feather should I use

sick inlet
#

bronze yellow one

hidden monolith
#

Aight, wml

manic kiln
#

Try to flinch and presync

hidden monolith
#

Good enough I think?

sick inlet
#

Not bad
Do we have (already rolled) Bandanas and Bracelets that can help him out?

hidden monolith
#

Nope

sick inlet
#

No Any Hoenn, MC, Grass ones?

#

Any of the 3

hidden monolith
#

Gonna see

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MC Sinnoh Dark

#

There's also just MC

sick inlet
#

Mc works

#

Just fine

#

Gives HP at all?

hidden monolith
#

I'm out of yellow feathers

hidden monolith
sick inlet
#

I was asking if you had already HildaCry

sick inlet
hidden monolith
#

For sure

#

I can also 140 him

sick inlet
#

Do you happen to have a Bracelet too?

hidden monolith
#

Mhm

#

Has MC

lean lion
trail smelt
#

… damn I forgot grass weak Cerena is today lol

hidden monolith
#

Should I reset and do Bruno first

#

There's no way Brendan can tank this shit

sick inlet
#

Same defense you get

#

More hp

#

Brendan surely can live

rain turret
#

I did all 4 E4s off-type
only champion was on-type
teams on #1010274591601598555

lean lion
# hidden monolith

Team Swift Reaction proccing on Sonia is preventing you from quad queuing. Do you have deluxe lucky cookies by any chance?

#

If Dawn is 3/5 you could also build a team around her. Her nuke is pretty good, and you have her EX so that's even better. Hop is the perfect partner cause he can max all relevant stats for her with TM mpr. And 3rd slot can be any atk debuffer.

hidden monolith
#

Can Mallow do the job ?

lean lion
hidden monolith
#

You sure this can work ?

lean lion
#

Watch my clear

#

It's definitely possible

#

And she can live their sync too

hidden monolith
#

So Darach for 3rd I guess?

#

Can you show me your grid for Dawn

lean lion
lean lion
hidden monolith
#

Got you, what about params ?

sick inlet
#

Just 2 units, Survives sync LuSSamineGun

sick inlet
sick inlet
#

Unless you're no longer using a striker i suppose

hidden monolith
#

You run Attack & Sp. Attack ^ 3 over Max HP 2?

lean lion
#

Yeah

#

No point in making them tankier

hidden monolith
#

Alright

#

Gonna see if it works

lean lion
#

You can even quad queue here if Freevenge doesn't proc on Hop

hidden monolith
#

I MISSCLICKED "good as new" on hop and threw

#

But it should work

lean lion
#

Nice

hidden monolith
#

Also why is she so strong

lean lion
#

Yup was a little surprised myself

hidden monolith
#

Hahahaha

#

Aight lemme do it real quick

#

Hop ain't getting MPR

sick inlet
#

Brendan dying to sides WEEZing

#

I won though

#

No dauntless, no Vigilance
Just sheer will power

hidden monolith
#

Done

hidden monolith
sick inlet
#

Missing third unit = the dmg spread is worse even with my additional gear

hidden monolith
#

And done, Serena was probably the easiest one

#

I ran tank Ethan with Adaman and SS Acerola TabithaHehe

manic kiln
#

you used 3 op pairs DawnNom spread them out

hidden monolith
#

Well yeah but it was fun

gritty salmon
#

Hey, i need help for strong teams, i m a return Player 🙂

keen jasper
#

Show your units please

silver dirge
gritty salmon
#

There are my 5 Stars

silver dirge
#

How familiar are you with teambuilding?

keen jasper
#

Show your other units

gritty salmon
#

@silver dirge not so well haha

keen jasper
#

+101

frozen depotBOT
#

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you've done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding & gameplay.

1. Build your team around a damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or off-type if they're strong enough). This can be a StrikeS / StrikeP striker or a Tech tech. Read the unit's kit carefully - moves & passives - to see what they can buff themselves. Ideally you want to be at +3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit. Damage dealers should be slot 3 in tactics

2. Choose a support Support to put in slot 1 tactics so it takes the damage. Your support should cover the buffs and damage dealer needs they cannot max by themselves reliably - critical hit rate and SpAtk/Atk being the main ones. If your damage dealer is self-sufficient, you can look at defensive, healing or other utility supports instead.

3. The 3rd slot is flexible and depends on your other two pairs. You could take a tech focusing on utility such as debuffs or field effects to enhance your damage dealer, or another support that covers a team need like defenses, healing or boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a 2nd damage dealer! It's important to experiment & remember that a successful team needs to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealier efficiently so they can start attacking as soon as possible!

See the image below for a visual guide. And check out #1010307000346878062 or the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone for more information on Triple Queue & other game information!

silver dirge
#

That's okay, we can take it step by step

gritty salmon
#

@keen jasper my 4 and 3 Stars?

keen jasper
silver dirge
#

Have you had a read of the guide above?

gritty salmon
#

@silver dirge yes i read it, but its Hard to make a strong team haha

hidden monolith
silver dirge
#

No worries let's get you sorted with some examples

toxic cobalt
#

Just make an average team WinonaBlessed

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of the right striker type

gritty salmon
#

I try to make a Team with SS Red or Steven

silver dirge
#

Alright, so focus on SS Red - have you had a read of his kit?

#

What buffs do you think he needs?

gritty salmon
#

I dont know, i can sent you the skills that i have on him

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Sorry for my Bad english i m from germany GeetaTired

toxic cobalt
#

Do you know what buffs you want for every unit?

#

(Point 1 of the teambuilding 101 giude)

gritty salmon
#

@toxic cobalt no i Look at the Internet, but i neuer find mutch

toxic cobalt
#

"+3 critical-hit rate and +6 attack or special attack depending on the unit"

gritty salmon
toxic cobalt
#

Thanks, but for now just look at his moves

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He has two "status" moves (not sure what the german is, but the grey 🩶 ones)

gritty salmon
toxic cobalt
#

One raises critical hit rate by +2, one raises spatk (but costs defence in exchange)

hidden monolith
#

Wait, we're getting 2 more resets on the grass weak CS?

lean lion
silver dirge
hidden monolith
toxic cobalt
# gritty salmon

Ah thanks> So Angriffplus+ gives you +2 crit each time, you want +3. Meanwhile Fester Glaube an den Sieg gives the +3 spatk

lean lion
gritty salmon
#

Yes that is it

toxic cobalt
#

Theoretically he could buff himself, but it'd take a long time, so you want a support unit that buffs either crit or spatk

#

Lots of options for that, but I note eg. you already ahve Rosa at lv 135 and she does spatk, or Roxanne at lv 90

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Then you can run a third unit for another purpose. I would recommend speed, eg. Marley & Arcanine

#

Let me know if you don't know the unit names

gritty salmon
#

@toxic cobalt is it the case in masters that more crit Chance is more damage ?

toxic cobalt
#

Crit is more damage. +1 crit = 50% chance of crit, +2 crit = 80% chance of crit, +3 crit = 100% chance of crit. (syncs are a bit less)

gritty salmon
#

I have a lot of units lvl 1 but i cant make a lot of to lvl 140 that is not the problem

toxic cobalt
#

well just 120 is enough

gritty salmon
#

@toxic cobalt okay nice to know

#

So i go with Red rosa and Marley for the first Team?

toxic cobalt
#

Not a bad team. Sometimes you want a better defensive support, in which case you could eg. replace Marley with Skyla

#

But worth a try!

trail smelt
#

Ok most annoying fight turned out to be Bruno LMAO

#

That team needed so many resets until it worked haha

toxic cobalt
#

Get better flinches

hidden monolith
gritty salmon
#

@toxic cobalt okay thank you, and the ss Steven what do you think about this Team?

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
#

Well you'll note that one of SS Steven's trainer moves raises his spatk and crit to maximum on its own, so you can basically just do whatever with him

gritty salmon
hidden monolith
#

Tank SS StevenTabithaHehe

toxic cobalt
#

That team might suffer from speed issues, usually we recommend starting out with just one striker

gritty salmon
#

Okay how i can make it better?

old orchid
silver dirge
#

Yeah separate Lusamine for now, replace with a support

hidden monolith
toxic cobalt
hidden monolith
#

Skyla is a SAVIOUR

silver dirge
trail smelt
#

Potion queen of the sky haha

hidden monolith
#

I hate Unova but she changed up my mind

trail smelt
#

Even though it’s not one of her best topics in Lodge for god knows why

gritty salmon
#

Okay i should push skyla haha

grand trout
#

Does karen have no status moves?

#

When i flinch her she can't act at all

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
#

I think she has one but doesn't use it for some reason. I was having weird interactions with her.

grand trout
#

Nope, i can flinch her

verbal karma
#

err...for the Pasio CS, which opponent is the least dangerous for the R3 gimmick?

#

ya know, half-sync

old orchid
#

She can not use any trainer move until after her first sync

grand trout
#

But usually if you flinch the enemy they use a status move.

verbal karma
#

gotta have to plan around that

grand trout
#

Karen... doesn't.

toxic cobalt
#

Some stages don't

grand trout
keen jasper
#

And you can try what I do, brute forcing

old orchid
silver dirge
#

Johto clowning as usual

grand trout
#

So basically if you flinch chain her she can't move at all

#

Lmao

#

Are there other stages like this?

toxic cobalt
#

Gakon she uses X attack all the turn before her first sync

#

Not that this disproves the wider point

#

Trying to remember exactly what I observed, but doesn't seem clear in my recording

mortal dirge
verbal karma
#

hmm...so far, I have Bertha for R2 and Lorelei for R4...

old orchid
verbal karma
#

just gotta decide on R1 and R3 now

trail smelt
hidden monolith
#

She should be very easy as long as you replace sandstorm

verbal karma
#

Ah...my idea was to go R2 Bertha so I can replace her permanent sandstorm with a permanent sun, all while also having permanent Grassy Terrain

hidden monolith
#

Who's your Grassy Terrain setter ?

verbal karma
#

Bulurola

hidden monolith
#

Is she 3/5

verbal karma
#

2/5

hidden monolith
#

Ah yeah, you might wanna have that cause you get a lot less uptime without Green Thumb

#

Who's running alongside ?

verbal karma
#

I'm feeling either Brendan or SS Erika (since both benefit from sun the most)

#

maybe save SS Erika for R5 instead, tho?

#

so I can reuse the R2 gimmick there

hidden monolith
#

Yeah that works, even tho every physical grass attacker can hit the next level with SS Acerola by their side

#

Then you can give Bruno a try for R3

grand trout
#

I recommend brendan for bruno as you can reach his mega form earlier

#

R3*

verbal karma
#

hmm...

#

ah, Brendan for R3 Bruno...in that case, either Gardenia or Mallow for R2 Bertha RosaThink

hidden monolith
#

If you don't have SS Acerola at 3/5 it's not that bad to not firstly sync with her

verbal karma
sick inlet
#

Gardenia... I never thought I would see anyone ever mention that name

verbal karma
#

after all, she's EX'd

hidden monolith
#

She's EX'd but it's not like she can refresh Terrain at 2/5

#

So you better be syncing with Brendan as long as Terrain's up

verbal karma
#

Brendan would be for R3 Bruno while SS Acerola would be for R2 Bertha

hidden monolith
#

Ohhhhh

#

got you

#

So who's the attacker alongside SS Acerola

#

you could use Mallow if you have no plans for her I guess