#Champion Stadium
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So far it's every time 
I don't think this is how that works
Flinching and sleeping are highly ineffective against Phoebe as her sides don't have tms
Well, less effective than say Sidney
that's a rare case
i think with another fighting carry he could work
Or, listen. You can run triple Lucario
hm yes korrina with her -1 damage cuz she has no offensive buffs
Her move after sync can raise att. Also you have max fighting move
And SSACynnthia can max crit.
its slow as fuck
palmer needs to be pre synced or else you literally explode
Yeah that’s a very slow setup and not worth if Korrina is there…
also this isn't CS talk 
Johto next week?
Yep, latest infographics are in the pins
Wait how
SC Steven + Fighting Zone
Oh cool, thanks
What should I do for phoebe?
Idek what team to run either
I have Cynthia and Giratina
Did you just pressed every button until you reached 3000?
Any idea what team works well with cynthia against phoebe?
depending on what move level she is you could run her as the solo damage dealer
She is 5/5
It depends on the team since you'll turn the fight into a bit of a "Rocket Tag" scenario
I was going to try Fantina and Victor with someone to support but the supports I tried really do not like Shadow Ball
Yeah, it can be that way sometimes when giving Phoebe Ghost Zone
Can always just run Lucian instead of Victor
oh yeah
ghost weak is kinda goofy like that, some stages also use ghost on you
If things are too hectic with Ghost Zone
it makes those stages a damage race 
i only survive for like 3 turns unfortunately
Dragon and ghost weak can be funny like that
Anni lillie ss blue ssrc didn’t work against phoebe so i offtyped with rats
??? they... don't work...?
i coulda sworn i did phoebe with that exact team in the past.
although i use victor instead of cyn now, with support slot being whatever to help Victor nuke with first sync + later max move
Do we know the next cs yet?
It's in the pins
Didn’t scroll down that far lmao. Just saw the one from this week and just stopped scrolling
Should be a nice change from the past couple months
I still need to u lock the medal for this region so week one will be easy anyways. These are going to be my teams
Tbh I didn’t realize I was using dupe types three times
doubling up on a couple types isnt the end of the world though
it takes 2 weeks to fill the medal completely anyway, so as long as youre getting at least 9 types in youre probably gonna be fine
Johto having less hp with 3k params than Hoenn base is ridiculous
buddy you are comparing 2 CS regions separated by years
That explains it I suppose
Hoenn is just a tank
also, that's just Will's stage, not all of them are like that
still, Johto is on the baby side
I checked all stages. Every stage except next week's Fire weak Koga and Water weak Lance have under 20k base hp
I mean, sure, newer CS regions also have a few stages under 20k
it's just they got a bigger share of chunky ones, and with a lot of gimmicks on top
but again, regardless, Johto is old and easy even at 3k, just see the lack of passives
17k is the standard
If you see them highlighted in yellow that means it's higher than normal
In Will's case, being greyed out like this, his HP is lower than normal
Didn't know this ty
you want to laugh a bit? see fighting weak Iris on Unova
Same principle with attack or defense stats
So Phoebe this week has inflated offenses
f2p is suffering this week 
Iris is the champion? I mean stage 5
That explains why it's so difficult to offtype. I can usually get by with some atk params but Phoebe straight one shots the non-supports.
I tried not using broken limited units for her stage on 3k MM, only to be pulverized repeatedly 
I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with her this week.
i...really dont see how ghost phoebe is a problem, honestly... i could prob replace A!Lillie on my EVictor team and be fine, but itd require me figuring out what to use in her place; EX'd 2nd dmg might be necessary for all i know with the inflated stats i use
either way im tempted to replay this week and try a full offtype clear to play around with my new stuff some more.
Hits too hard, that's what
That furious brawn is shit
And starts off with +2 def and sp def to make it extra annoying for brainteaser units
And being a ghost weak ghost type just kinda sucks because zone works against you as much as it does for you
I think rebuff would work better for phoebe
it would but fallister sucks
Fallister? i got him recently just not quite sure what to work with him.
Just a heads up I will not be updating pins for Johto/Kanto/Unova/Alola stages, don't think it's necessary. PoMatools is always available if you need to have a peep
Understandable
but who’s gonna spoon feed the people that rely on you
Pomatools
Arch quiet quitting
I'm having trouble with Bede, EX Sycamore and Lucian for Sidney. Albeit Bede is at 1/5
Hi Arch!
im on R4
managed to beat it post sync because xerneas toughed it out lmao
But now i'm having trouble with Wallace because of the poison
I have EX Gio and Bianca but I'm having trouble choosing a good 3rd member
Sp. Atk. buffs at the absolute minimum, if you happen to have someone like Penny or SS Brendan they’re good considerations
i have neither 🫠
it's the poison that is messing me up
Finally was able to do it with SS Elesa!!!
She works well too
We have a 2.5k parameter guide on pins. It's hard to give a set parameter for 3k because it's very team dependent. Pins has a guide on what to add for 3k
I'm not just asking for guidance on parameters.
Remember the params are just guides, tweak them according to your needs. Different params allow for different playstyles so test around to see which one you're comfortable with
What do you need guidance for, then
Well yeah, that's why I referred to the parameter guides. Create 5 teams to fight CS, then apply parameters accordingly
...okay
if there's anyone who can help me beat 3k champion stadium, let me know
as in, help me. I don't really know how else to say it...
what exactly do you want assistance with. Is it building a team for it, choosing the parameters, something else
Going from 1.5k to 3k is a very significant jump
as in not just tell me to check the pins
That's as much help as I can give you with the info (or lack thereof) you provided
I don't know your teams
I don't know your roster
am I speaking english? I'm sorry but
we need a lot more info than what youve given us
I need help beating it
you can get my roster
I want to beat 3k and I am having trouble
What’s a good support for looker Geeta on half ally mp? Messing with offtype cs cause on a 300mi ride
Bleh, tried ncrosa third and realized how bad half mp is on Geeta

Forgot bmove had two mp
Almost offtyped phoebe
But ran out of dmg
Ignore it being labeled stall
What should I add
Neat. Surprisingly that worked even with looker lmao
…and with my rock grid apparently lmao
Wonder if I should try more Geeta team ideas or swap to 1/5 ssteven teams next…
1/5 ssteven is really fun
You can even do absolutely dumb teams like Lucian and Musharna
Take all the support damage parameters lmao
LMAO
But did it work
I mean phoebe is phoebe

The champion isn't too bad in comparison
Roxie is better than Looker generally
Doesn’t Geeta have better nuke than both
she does, yeah
Only really cared about their poison jabs or whatever
but Roxie still has better dps than Looker, offtype wise
Which if my calcs were right looker was ahead on
Really
Huh
Guess forgot to check offtype calcs

well Looker has SD9 and SEUN from TM
Ah that explains a lot
I assume Roxie would want a support like hilbert? I don’t know if I have better
Hilbert helps her buffing quickly
tbh Geeta will do the work extremely well
Roxie will act more like a filler
Yeah especially since I exrd her at 3/5
I'm new to Master Mode, how hard should I be trying to start?
I've got a solid damage option for all of them maybe except fighting
If you’re new to Master Mode I’d recommend starting with 850 points per stage. Doing so is no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode, with the following caveats:
- Your damage-dealer(s) will use only supereffective attacks.
- Your damage-dealer(s) will use either only physical or only special attacks.
- Your team is at most reliant on only one between status conditions and interference effects.
If you can’t meet all those criteria then it’ll be a slight difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode
That seems pretty simple. Where's the pin with suggested loadouts for stadium?
Top pinned message, 1st link in that message
So I felt like my pre sync parameter was becoming a mess and wasn’t able to be easily switch it around for each battle as I kept forgetting what to keep on there and what was on there for a certain stage so I reset it and….made it worse….im basically getting one shot by phoebe R1 💀
At first I had strength selected so I thought I’d switch to HP and I’m still basically getting one shot
Currently team is Victor/giovonni/lodge morty
Alright that was super easy. I guess try 2k now?
Yeah, just get a feel for the params and what they do
You can keep adjusting it for higher points
Can you explain the different categories in broad terms? Basically pre sync vs post sync and poison stall
- Pre-Sync: Dish as much damage out as possible, KO the opponents before they get a chance to sync, i.e. pre-sync. Idea is to choose as less bulk as possible so they're easy to take down, you opt for parameters like offenses so they hit hard but also go down easy. Your team would be maximising as much damage as possible
- Post-Sync: Idea here is to be able to survive a sync from them, so you're going to want to cut down on the offensive parameters and give them a little more bulk. (If you do too much offense, you'll be taken out by the sync). You'd go for a team with good survivability, but also able to do damage
- Poison Stall: Well, you stall them out as long as possible and let them die to the poison. You don't take any offensive parameters, give them maximum bulk (HP, defense, etc) - buff your own team defenses & debuff their offenses so your team can take hits and let the poison/trap do its work
Well, managed a 2500 point 1st round, that's promising for hitting 10k
I’ve messed up my parameters 😭 idk how to fix them
Any of these worth investing in to carry a 2500 point run or am I better offtyping for Phoebe?
Who would you pair as a support? I guess I need satk up
That’s….a lot of Attack. Why not do Strength?
Alright, dawn and gio are doing almost no damage
Make sure Special Damage Reduction 8 is turned off (and do Physical instead)
And did you do a Sp Atk Support?
I did, also they're getting 2 shot by spread moves.
Probably need to drop down some points
Given, I used Rosa
I know my parameters are a mess but Jesus it feels like something is up w/ phoebe this week 💀
I have my grid set to pre sync damage
Glad it's not just me
Yep, that did not work
Wait, your Rosa isn’t EX.
If you’re doing 2.5k, you need the Support EX buff. Otherwise, do lower points.
Your Gio isn’t EX’d or powerboosted, for anyone that’s about to jump on me
also no crit for NY Dawn
Oh I forgot she cannot raise her own offensive stats .-.
Well Rosa will have to be changed anyway due to no EX
I cannot beat sidney for the life of me
Phoebe has roughly ten billion HP, so even with no defensive parameters, she seems to never die.
Damn everyone be struggling this week 
I just saw…you gave her a ton more HP
She already is bulky in HP, better to avoid it for her
I actually cleared this week for the first time without any help, but that was because I happened to have the perfect units for this week.
If I do damage instead im one shot 💀
Lower the points, then.
Or become a poisonpilled stallcel.
Actually, I heard from the expert that Poison Stall is very hard at 3k
I'm trying to get the rewards I need the points 💀
After 10k it’s just
and
. Trust me, not as important.
Take this from someone who mainly does 2.5k every week 
Can someone help me build a team to beat sidney
What are your Sync Pairs?
Firstly: you read his tips in the pins?
Or his passives in PoMa Tools?
I very much need all the
I can get if I wanna be able to EX units
It’s not worth losing your sanity over.
I’m actually in a surplus rn, but I’m too lazy to lower my points lmao
Yeah I have tried many many things
I’ve been doing well with 3k points so I don’t wanna lower on him
3k is brutal for Hoenn, just something to note.
Ik but im still trying
And also, may as well read what I explained above, cause it’s literally the same thing
Where

Managed to beat Phoebe with mix red, ss acerola, and Falkner flinching
Params look good overall, you could pick up Grad Healing and drop some bulk - are you close to beating it?
You also don't have Atk 3 picked up, see if you're able to tough it out with that parameter as well, further reduce your bulk
Drop some strength buffs?
Yeah
Okay
Alright, in that case your 3rd can be a defense debuffer or some sort of denial to buy you some turns
BP Valerie should work
BP Valerie + NC Calem + 3rd

Thanks!
Np, hopefully it's a smooth clear for ya. let me know if you need some pointers when you attempt it
Will do
Not bad for my first time 😎
Though having 4 strong on type attackers really helped.
Am i good for next week?left is hard lv1 and right is 15k
Assuming you’re dead-set on running base Gladion against Bruno, a few things for the Master Mode teams:
- Replace Marley with either a 2nd damage-dealer or someone to handle Blue’s Sp. Atk. buffs, she is 100% redundant with SS Morty on the team.
- If you’re gonna run C. Blue + Rose then I’d suggest running a different Support than NY Clair purely for the reason that just the Free Move effects probably can’t sustain some of the gauge-heaviest Rock damage-dealers in the game for very long. But if you really wanna give it a shot feel free, can always try it first and switch things up if it doesn’t work.
- It could be worth considering running either both physical or both special for your Poison team, but it’s not a big deal either way.
- You might be able to fit a 2nd Water damage-dealer on the Water team instead of Holiday Jasmine, but it’s probably fine either way.
Can someone help me with team comp for this week?
Hard Mode or Master Mode, and what point value if Master Mode?
I believe it's his first week of CS. So SS Gladion, SS Lusamine, Lillie and Riley should sweep their on-type stages. For tanks you can use Leaf/Eevee, SS Blue, Swanna, Rosa and any other support.
And for filler just squeeze in as many different types as you can to work towards unlocking hard mode for that region.
Extremely late but
Yes it is my first week
I managed to clear with SSGladion, Serena, and SSBlue, but I'm struggling on the other two and I have no idea what to do for the rock weakness
so.... spoonfeeding time? 
Don't make the mitake of using your most OP pairs early on; remember, you need to do 5 stages.
Yea I realized I shouldn't have used Blue first the second I used him. Oops
Would Olivia be good enough for rock?
For sure since it’s Hard Mode
Hey
Came by to this server for help on Champion Stadium Hard Mode
Can probably build a team around:
- Mina for Sidney.
- Riley for Glacia.
- Roark (needs 4-star potential and his Standfast 5 & 7 grid tiles though) or Lucas for Drake.
- Morty or Fantina for Phoebe.
- Giovanni for Wallace.
And be fine since it’s Hard Mode. Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines, and try to include 9-12 unique types (as in, the type of the Sync Move) across your 5 teams for the type medal
Or just use Gordie to nuke everything/
Gordie is a possible option against Drake as well, true
Yeah, the only one who’ll really care about grid for Hard Mode is Roark, and that’s more so he doesn’t murder himself the instant he attacks
Yeah, Sync nuke Roark would probably want grid anyway
Should I do them in particular order since the effects are different for every round
Outside of maybe avoiding Phoebe on round 3 it doesn’t matter too much, most of the time the round parameters have little to no impact
Good ghosts to fight phoebe?
Giovanni, Shauntal
I got morty with drifblim, fatina with mismagius
what move levels are they?
Sadly both on 1
Giovanni or Shauntal can work fine for Hard Mode in the vast majority of cases
then Gio. you can get him to 5/5
Bet
Agatha’s also a fine option for Hard Mode
Not particularly when it comes to Hard Mode
Can easily just roll with one of the myriad Ghost options for Phoebe if you need Giovanni against Wallace
he badly poisons you just before he syncs so it's nice to win beforehand
Or you can bring a Sync Pair like Sycamore or Marley to cure/prevent it
just keep in mind Marley doesn't buff the team much
What's the next region for champion
I may just cut my progress and retry with johto
you've finished the medal I presume? if so, you can just dial down the parameters
Medal?
when you first do CS you are in Hard Mode and have to use 1 of every type to fill in the medal before you can do Master Mode
Oh that no I'm just trying to beat it for first time
Wanna unlock battle rally for gems
Battle rally is like endgame
ah got it
but yes, Battle Rally requires a pretty broad roster to get a lot of points
I know but all these other fights were easy but phoebe just wreaks me
hmm.. are you saving Gio for Wallace?
Yeah
Misty + Roxanne combo:
Like I said ill just cut my progress
hopefully johto works better for me
ill plan better
Well if you want but that just means losing and restarting all over next rotation
And also it’s hard surely there’s a way to work around
It’s better to complete part of the medal now to avoid cutting off a week of rewards in the future.
I'm guessing you don't have Victor. But if you want to keep trying, maybe post who you have to use? that might help people help you
I'm currently looking at their past images real quick
oh SSLeaf. poison stalling is an option.
oh nice, I don't know where he/she posted. thanks for helping him!
Leaf W
SS Leaf + Janine is great combo if he has that available
no doubt a first timer would know the insane value Janine has
also doubt Misty is used, so gg
Yes and no, I got a few new units so I need to update
ok whatever you do, you got free wins across the board
unless you used every single pair suggested above
I got recently ryuki, kukui, hugh, SS N, Wallace and kiawe
eh, none of those are particularily good for anything we might be cooking
Only SS N for that roar
Try Leaf, SSLeaf, Janine and ALWAYS Sync with Leaf. You won't regret it.
Only thing I can think of
Did you not backread this chat? We've been debating your options up until I brought up SSLeaf from that image u posted a week ago.
Yeah i did
Doesn't matter, as long as the opponent decays from poison before all of your units go down.
True
waitaminute... I need to review Leaf's Sync Move details brb
Isn't it like sycamores?
ok thank god the stat boosts aren't linked to move level 
yeah it's basically early version of Sycamore's Sync
Good cause those buffs are very helpful
Alright so ill build them up when I got time and ill try it
bro you don't need to build any of them up (except level 120)
So far I have locked in
Sindey: Bertha, Cyrus, Aaron
Glacia: Leaf, Riley, SS Misty
Drake: Hop, Gordie, Sycamore
I swear to god there's something wrong with pheobe's stage...💀
if you want to fight her, you need to drop her ATK :x
or just presync anyways
I've been struggling against Phoebe all day and nothing is working so
what are u even trying?
Like parameter wise or?
why not both?
Parameter and team wise
Been trying to do the full 3k points and the only “advice” I ’ve been given was to lower it 💀I’ve beaten MM plenty of times before but I had reset my parameters this week bc I felt it was too out of wack (I couldn’t remember what parameters I had that needed to stay on and what parameters I had only selected for certain fights) and now I just keep messing with the parameters

Still a lot of Atk parameters…
I’m doing the damage parameter what do you want me to do? 💀 idk if it was you or someone else but someone said pheobe had a lot of HP so I can’t do that parameter
I said both her having a lot of HP is bad cause of her innate bulk, and the amount of Atk parameters you are stacking are just bad in general.
@north crown wanna say ty for the help I used the team you told me
I only switched leaf for arron
spammed defend order with venom drench
I do need help with choosing parameters screen after getting to Wallace
Again not sure what you want me to do when im literally following one of the 2500 parameters
Try the other pre sync one on the left.
I've been changing the parameters multiple times throughout the day bc nothing has worked
these are actually the exact params I usually use for my non-WTZ units; what's the main issue you're having?
the params are fine, just need some rng, but the team is bad, with shadow ball dmg alone you can't presync, sync will do no dmg with standard dmg reduction
Yeah you've got an offtype sync there
Fantina gaming when
yep, your Standard Damage param is killing your sync completely
that's Gio's main source of power
(mega-evolving, i mean)
Highly recommend Fantina, or even Shauntal if you've got those invested
It's a VA event, gotta wait for the rerun
Also ahem
Damn well ty for telling me
I too post sync'd against her.
it is but with full attack params it's not easy
Switching to the HP parameters but now she just might have too much HP 
Phoebe is quite bulky yeah
Well duh ya don’t use those params for post sync not even I would
Isswhy I said to change params
Suggestions on that then? Bc the damage parameters is doing too much
Question I've never tried this before so should I try to clear it one by one
just choose 1: offtype or ontype, you can't ontype with shadowball then offtype with his psychic sync
I've switched to fantina so
Really questioning how tf I beat her before with the same team I’m using now lmao, I think it might’ve been before the parameter update??
did you do any other regions or this is your first stadium
just pick a dps (strike or tech), ontype if you can, pick a support, then a filler type
focus on completing 18 types for the medals in 2 weeks
but it'll change to johto next week so you only have 1 week to play hoenn
it was 2.5k
I did Kanto before
then just do the same, using as many types as you can
?
Cause I got new units so
+tracker
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
Ok thanks alot
Okay since im using fantina suggestions on what to do for 3k?
Why it rested:-:
just need sp def debuff and someone to buff her offensive stats
same team is ok but without ex you might have trouble with the sides
maybe you opened it in a different browser? ;o
or if you clear your browser history/cache
Should I stick w/ the HP parameters or go back to the damage one?
if you use the dmg params you might have to reset quite a lot
fantina is probably not strong enough to presync with hp param, also can't postsync, her defensive stats are trash
So my only option is basically to reset a lot?
i just check your roster so there's another strat you could try
brute force everything with ghost zone, run a tanky support, use victor with cynthia, just kill them before they kill you
@iamlost the hecky hack did you see my roster? I haven't shared it recently
but yeah I could do that but I've barely touched SSR Cynthia and not sure who to use as a tanky support
ssmorty, sskris, ncblue.... even redlax for better dmg, he can die after using buffs, don't even need ex, you will sync with victor first anyway, then the max move will kill mid
need to run mix param for both sp and ph atk tho, cynthia needs shadow force to kill sides
....i could've been using nc blue....i forget he can exist without the need for pika's
Braindead clear
Could you share the parameters used?
Thank youuuu 💛
if you don't use shadow force then just check the physical dmg, shadow ball is probably enough, they can't kill sskris so no need to use shadow force
Is your kris and Cynthia 3/5 or higher? Cause mine are only at 1/5
Phoebe is giving me some trouble
Hits way too hard
send your team against Phoebe + your params 😮
1/5 is enough
kris is used to tank, buff sp atk & SMUN and potion when they spam earthquake/heatwave
cynthia is 2nd dps, you don't even need zone from her, just zone from victor, but her dps is quite good, and shadowball can debuff def/spdef
Just hard mode
Attempted it with Shauna, Fantina, Masked Royal
Anyone tried duo Sidney with Gladion?
SMUN?
special move up next
use rain then use her TM
also make sure to use haze before sync with victor, use unbuffed foe grid
If Phoebe has an positive ATK buff, she'll rip your team 😦
I've updated my roster
Jesus Christ thank god that’s over
gg!
I DID IT
Cant beat Sidney
also tried Lillie clefairy/sycamore/penny and no luck I’m like barely doing damage
you stacked too many HP params, take a few off and pick some attack/strength params
also, do you have a Fairy Zone setter?
like egg Sylveon, SS Wally, SS Hau,...
I have egg sylveon
BP Valerie + egg Sylveon + a strong tank should be fine
im not a fan of Sycamore there, because he cant leech much health bcause of standard dmg reduction param
-Sp atk actually
Bp clement
Iirc Sid starts with def buffs
You can flinch and -def with Sonia
Which would be your way of not being able to -sp attack
He has Furious brain so -sp atk not -def
Nvm bro you do you 😂
you can reset for good move rotation from Sidney so he doesnt use strong moves
its hard to slot a spatk debuffer into the team
Crits bypass defensive buffs anyway, those would just be if you want to boost damage
Built these out from my head for the upcoming Pasio Stadium, am I good to go?
these teams should work well
i'll have to wait and see what teams i did last time .-.;
my current progress with team building is nada xD
What makes johto so easy? Been seeing a handful of yall saying that it's gonna be a breeze next week
It was the second CS introduced, so around 3 years ago
It barely has annoying gimmicks or increased stats. Basically nearly no challenging obstacles
Well, aside from Koga stages
There are some annoying stages like fire-weak Koga
Ahh that makes sense
What makes fire weak koga annoying
He sets up Crit Shield before his 1st sync
Oof
Which means you need to waste a slot for a defog unit
By that gimmick, it's also free 150 points
Not to mention +1 on both defenses and a low chance to +1 evasion when he gets it
Flying weak Koga was made for NY Lance, so in that stage the middle has increased spdef, and the sides have increased def
Well, that's why he has Crit Shield, to encourage using someone with Defog
Along with the small chance of evasion increase
Oh it isn't to encourage pre syncing?
Need help with making team for Sidney
Hard Mode or Master Mode, what point value if Master Mode, and please show us your roster
Remember to look over the tips for Sidney in the pins!
Pic from rie
That’s not going to help us help you make a team
We need to know if you’re on Hard Mode or Master Mode (and if Master Mode, what point value you’re going for) and we need to see your roster
And as for your roster?
Can either build a team around Mina or a team around NC Nate
Also, make sure you get Riley’s 5/5 and pair-specific Sync Orbs, and the same goes for all free event pairs going forward. Always get the resources you’re given for free when it comes to free Sync Pairs
Fire Koga first week
Fuck it double Hilda time
Double hilda 
the double hilda in question
i need to prep for next week tbh
yet another medal to complete
that should put me at 4 medals done
How many tickets do I've to save up for 4 copies
600x4 iirc
2400
Since 3k came have we had kalos cs?
Not yet
Also a month that i dont need to stress about csmm
I beat 15k again I'm back to cooking after my 1 year break 🗣️🗣️
it'll be like this, Kalos in april, Unova in May, then repeat Kanto and Alola 1 more time to complete the cycle
there's a high chance they add paldea after that so the rotation will change, probably no point increase still 15k
15k is already crazy i won fairy weak with legit like 10% hp left on my wally
These should be completely fine next week I assume yes?
Hoping to ex Lucas next week since out of 
Go get lodge skyla then
She’s basically physical ssethan to some extent
Oh don't misconstrue i have good flying types
It's just trauma lol
I have nylance which i believe was made to combat him?
Also koga has another stage in which he does crit shield right?
Annoying rounds lol
That would be Fire weak Koga
Is koga flying weak this week?
check the pins for CS calendar
Cuz if so I can probably get lodge skyla by the end of this week
I need a good flying strike pair tbh so lodge skyla being so good is a godsen
yeah she is insane
i'm at least 3 days away from her 😦
shes tech but really strong nonetheless
Skyla is strike
Hi! looking for some teams for champion stadium. I finished everything in story mode (farming last 2 legendary adv rn) and I wanted to work on some other stuff while waiting for stamina for events. Appreciate any help! 
not planning to max everything out rn but I would like to have a few pairs/teams in mind to work on while Im out of stamina
For this week's champion stadium? It's hard mode I reckon
I see some pretty good damage dealers you can build around. Gladion for Fairy-weak Sidney, Giovanni for Ghost-weak Phoebe (shadow ball grid), Bea or Riley for fighting-weak Glacia, SS Steven for Psychic-weak Wallace. For Rock-weak Drake, you can try Geeta
build around the damage dealers, you can send the finished teams here for feedback. Hoenn is pretty tough and they might have some gimmicks you need to pay attention to. There's a write-up on pins
I see, any good supports I could also work on aside from SS blue and Prof Sycamore?
that would depend on the damage dealer. Gladion for example is self sufficient and just needs a good tank. Hop, Maylene, Falkner, Roxanne, Shauna are pretty good supports at the current move level that you have them, but picking supports is dependent on your team and opponent
i would add Melony to that list as well
Skyla and Leaf are very good defensive and healing supports when you them to 3/5
Oh ok, probably time to read through some of the units kits to try and figure out some teams then 
ty both for the help

do we know the params for this week(johto) or just the teams?
Round parameters are server side, we'll find out at reset
alrighty
I think I won't do solo/duos this week
Instead
Find some random theme to do instead 
i'm doing a voice actor clear again 
not too worried because it's johto, this is gonna be fun
yall havin almost too much fun with johto lol
Johto is one of the easier CS regions, restrictive gimmicks are basically nonexistent
So people are excited to have some more freedom in their team options
Except for Will’s Impervious for some reason
eh that's pretty reasonable
There’s a couple outliers for sure (Flying weak Koga with his “Wise Entry x2 before it was cool” and Ghost weak Will’s Impervious), but it’s nothing compared to Sinnoh/Hoenn/Kalos
Csmm is a breeze if you're a 10/15+ months old account tbfh
i am gonna enjoy being able to use redlax as my normal pair for the medal
hm yeah that's also true
this account is at least like half a year old already i think
i got back into this game when nc calem and cerena reran
Next week is very easy to 15k MM for me now that I have the masterfair strikers for their respective types ...
And / or Pokefair
Geeta for Will, SS Hilda for Koga, SS Gladion for Bruno, NC Silver for Karen and Archie for Lance
zamn geeta nc silver and ss gladion
noice
speaking of archie have him and maxie ever reran? just curious cuz ik they're both insane pairs
They’ve rerun like twice iirc
Does the medal carry over to the next CS or do I have to start from 0 again
So 0 when Johto starts
Indeed
On the bright side, the next time Hoenn comes around you’ll just have to get the 5 types you don’t already have on the medal
Anyone has a list of rewards from Pasio CS?
The upcoming grass CS rerun
Trying to figure out whether I should EX Akari before EXing Lucian and Sabrina for Psychic HSE
I’d wait until Psychic HSE to make that decision, that way you can see if you even need those EXs to reach your desired score
No exactly, that's why I want the list of rewards from Pasio CS lol
Because if the PU tickets from Pasio CS is enough
It’s just the same as regular right
I can just get Akari EX without issue
First run had omni move candy coin at 11k (and other candy coins throughout the points)
Iirc
So it's definitely not regular CS
Reran twice, very outdated now though
Found it
Relative to newer stuff of their types they aged a bit poorly being couple of the earliest mfs
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Oh hmmm only 45 PU tickets
Well shoot
I can imagine they'll extend it to 15k by adding the other two coins
So maybe we'll end up with 55 PU tickets
Sigh, EXing Akari will be a bit tight since I'm locked from Johto in the first week
That ones from a year ago. Do we really not have a more up to date pastebin
If I had it I wouldn't be asking

We do
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Literally right at the top of absols bin

Wow it really is just 55 PUs
Only took like five seconds of looking by clicking absols pastebin profile

I don't usually have the link to his pastebin actually
Mind handing it over
For future ref
Just click his name on any of his bins
that makes me wanna try her now
gonna feel good with actually clearing a stage after facing the failure against Thorton's UB
Am I supposed to take both?
Could be another free 100
I wouldn’t recommend it, personally
Unless the teammates have ways of mitigating the stat drops
Yeah, the stat up is for the opponents, the stat down is for your team
Anyway, you can run 2.5k params as a base, add the stat up to bring it to 2.6k, and then make up the rest with stuff like Strength or Max HP depending on the team and the parameter set you used as a base
By the way
Don't mix strength with max hp
Unless you know for sure what you're doing
Not Sonia getting one tapped 😭
Is this on Phoebe?
You can reset until they use a buffing move first turn to allow for Sonia to buff two turns worth of defenses if it's that bad
If you are going to do damage with ss Korina and you play with +3 stats you might want to use a support that is tankier
Since you can get the +6 atk from snatch and her tm
What's R3
You can also just Spectral Thief Phoebe immediately to get rid of her buffs
Round 3
Yeah I did it and then used haze
You're not doing Phoebe as your third enemy right?
By the way, always read pins to know who to avoid
only 2.5k tho
yeah this is why it couldn't be 3k
^
Pins, for context
At 3k, enemies can one shot or do absolutely dumb stuff on certain rounds
Have you also read this? This is also in pins.

Yeah, 3k is exactly the type of gameplay where you need to actually properly know the enemy

I just offtype/ontype with my grass team at 3k and then do the rest on 2.5k
3k brain dead is only for the ubers of ubers
poison stalling, my beloved
SS Acerola/Adaman/SS Erika
Which is why when you complained about SS Korrina not being able to 3k
Our thoughts are always
Parameter/gameplay issue
Because it usually is haha

No offense to you
Haha all good
I understand that 3k is a time and reading commitment
I only pulled for her cause I really like Marshadow
and Korrina herself is cool I guess
But saying that SS Korrina can't do 3k is false, because anyone who commits the reading required can do it at 3k
Heck people have done a lot of 3k CSMM with f2p non EX units
But my personal experience with her in CS wasn't to good so I didn't even bother checking further
Also ss Korinna has special gimmicks to do her max dmg so try to fulfill the requirements
So the question becomes: do you like ss korrina enough to learn her requirements?
If not, feel free to stay 2.5k, no one will judge
Wait when did we go from 2.5k to 3k for max rewards
I like Marshadow!
But if you want 3k, we're here to help you learn!
A few months ago iirc
Do you know who's the most ideal support for her to begin with?
Is it still Fallister ?
Also, for sure, I have like 8 units to EX and I have 0 spirits
Extra 15 is appreciated
Are you using Spark's spectral thief/sync nuke grid?
aren't the ones that appear when I just run /pair the same?
cobalt, can I hand this over? I have irl things to do
If more assistance is needed I can help, yeah
Yeah, Spectral Thief / Sync Nuke
yeah, so for context: orr wants to learn how to maximize ss korrina
and how to do 3k in general
I've done a full 3k twice!
I was thinking of guiding them through the usual teambuilding exercise
Mind if I shower first 😀
also I'm not too familiar with ss korrina's build haha, I hope you know better cobalt
go ahead
I think a lot of it is honestly just gonna be taking a bit of time to read the different parameters and asking for clarification as needed
Is the team I'm running even optimized enough ?
what team are you currently running?
we don't actually know, since you never posted
Is your Hop EX, perchance?
No, but should be this month😃
That’s fine, I realized Victor should probably 1st Sync anyway
Who's her best support ?
You could be 140 for tanking a bit better
Her Support options are actually fairly flexible, I only asked about Hop because he has Adrenaline in grid
Ah I see
since she has Good Form as her passive, you should get a support that buffs Attack and a lot of other stats. Sonia is great at this, so it's alright
Going from 135 to 140 is not going to make any significant difference
Cause I did not haze 
And 140 isn’t going to prevent that
Might put the threshold a bit higher
but can we see your supports?
Surely
because right now
korrina will be pressing DH+
and a more suited support can cut down the buffing time
You’re overestimating the amount of stats gained from those 5 levels
Pretty sure that those are the relevant ones
Probably
I assume you want to preserve SS Acerola for your adaman team?
Mhm
Could do Aaron if he’s not being used elsewhere
Also should I get someone like SC Sonia over SS Erika
A Victor TM can help get Korrina to max crit by turn 2 and Aaron buffs both defenses
Yeah sure
more good form fodder
Penny works great with stealing stats with ss korina if you get +6 atk from steal + tm
She's preserved for my SS Gladion
SS Erika is really good, so no need to scout for anyone new if you already have Adaman as well like Arts implied
Alright cool
can we get your params?
we want to see if we can critique it so you can learn how to adjust it to pairs like korrina
Oh true
so you can get striker take x3 damage
are you using a status condition (para, sleep, etc)?
And also status condition I assume?
My Sonia isn't gridded with hostile environment
then you can take that too
I just took it off cause I was at 3050
Alright
Do I get rid of Sync buff or max hp 2?
with free points like this, you can drop max hp 2
have you been post syncing all this time?
What does that mean
cobalt, I have to go now
I'm not familiar with all of those techniques
leaving this to you
Could potentially replace Max HP ^6 with Attack and Sp. Atk. ^3 and Max HP ^4
Ty for your help:)
- Pre-Sync: You have to KO the opponent before they Sync.
- Post-Sync: You don’t care whether the opponent Syncs.
- Poison stall: a bit self-explanatory, tbh
It’s fairly high, that’s why I only say “potentially”. To an extent 3k is trial and error to see what works best
After removing Max HP ^6?
Can you resend your parameters now?
Can you please wait like 5 minutes I'll just shower rq
It's all good if you can't, I can come back tomorrow
You really don't have to if you're busy @crystal notch
Good luck and have fun on your learning journey! I have applications due tonight and assignments due tomorrow, aaaah
victor and korrina? you have to run mix param then but it should be easy
just need sp def tank
Then you can try making the replacements I suggested or doing Attack and Sp. Atk. ^1 + No Status Conditions instead of Attack and Sp. Atk. ^3 in that suggestion
They might not need to run mixed params, but adjustments can for sure be made if it turns out that they do
Also one last note: Sonia was getting one shot because she doesn't have Sp Def buffs, while Phoebe enemy has special attacks
That's why we suggested Aaron
Alright I'm back
Isn't it also due to the fact that he can buff more things?
For "good form"
Yes, also that, I'm just pointing out that you also need to consider enemy attacks into your team/support composition
I see
Do you know by any chance the scaling of good form?
Like the actual multiplier per +1 on each stat?
Also, does she get buffed twice for attack?
It doesn’t modify the raw stat, it’s a base power modifier for moves
oooo that's cool
It maxes at 110% for 40ish buff ranks, so it’s close to +3% per buff rank, if I’m mathing that right
Yeah around that
I'm late, but it does look like EVictor is here just for zone duty, so semi-spamming haze seems viable enough for the role he's currently playing.
his max move is pretty good
sync + max move took most of mid hp, korrina can clear sides
-2 def AOE
And haze is pretty nice too
to get rid of the buffs on the sides
Oh yeah I did not your message correctly
In CS? he's a special attacker
You could opt to switch to a different support; from the looks of it, you're utilizing the stat buff option to buff SSKorrina via Spectral Thief, Haze to negate buffs for the opponent, and DPSing with SSKorrina under zone.
My only criticism with this team is the support, as she prevents quadqueue (unless adren. 1 somewhere idk). You could opt to use:
- Defensive + Def Debuff Unit (e.g: BPClemont), especially since you don't want to sync with a support anyways.
- Defensive + Def Debuff + crit buffer (e.g: Cobalion). Lets SSK. spam sooner.
- Denying left side on turn 4 via 1st sync + quadqueued max move; however, you'd need a spatk+crit buffer support for him to do consistent damage.
- Use Melony for her sleep stalling capabilities to cram in more moves.
- Variant: Tank with EVictor, and purely sleep stall with a unit that has 100% acc.
Is there really a purpose in buffing Victor tho? Korrina should be fine on the damage part
Also she buffs herself pretty slowly
That's only if you want to attempt idea 3
Some people said that Aaron is a good pick
But who's ideally the best support for her ?
Aaron is a good pick, especially if you have 3/5, since you can get both 50% flinch (always nice) + acc buffs (maxed good form sooner).
I see
Is it worth to pull for Fallister for her ?
Ghost Rebuff + His TM can be pretty good
Maybe her damage output was low because I have only been using her with Sonia/Shauna
On the contrary, they should be good picks for her as a support. This makes me wonder whether you even read the wall of text I typed out.
One thing I forgot to mention, is that EVictor can also help buff SSK. via his TM. It's not linked to himself, and the SpAtk buffs still buff Good Form.
Yeah I did
Mhm, I do use it for her
I used to do Sonia TM -> Korrina TM -> Victor TM on Korrina
and then another Sonia TM
That's odd then. Unless Spectral Thief doens't work as intended against the CSMM option, this should suffice for her.
Holdup.. You do realize that Spectral Thief can act as a buffer, right?
Yeah for sure
Depends on the target but yeah, this is why I picked this parameter
Cuz the thing is with units like Sonia and Shauna is they don't buff many buffs that SSK. doesn't already buff for herself, so idk what you're cooking. That's why I suggested a more defensive support as a way to quicken those buffs that SSK can't buff herself. I do see now that she almost maxes Good Form via that param + Spec. Thief, so if I'm blown out of the water for this one.. 
All that said, BPClemont is still valuable via Screech, as I've previously mentioned.
There’s also just Aaron to help her save time on self-buffs
But using BPClemont will make Korrina take longer to actually set-up
Yeah, and IIRC he buffs both def and spdef right ?
Spec Thief + 1 Dire Hit All+.. or Spec Thief + TM... holdup ok nvm
Maybe she is a bad unit after all 
hm... I wonder if there's a unit I'm forgetting that is better, cuz I got this feeling that I'm forgetting someone.
Not bad but very specific
FALLISTER!!
She’s not really that specific, tbh
It's really difficult to maximize good form, especially outside of CS
Well you don’t need to maximize Good Form
Yeah true
yeah; other than ghost rebuff, he isn't all that great anyways.
You just wanna have a good amount of buffs
Even if you only get it halfway that’s still a +50% damage modifier
His TM is somewhat nice
kind of...? I do have him at 1/5, tho I never really use him for his rebuff mechanic.. well purely anyways.
Yeah you're correct
idr using him ontype on CSMM 3k
50% Base damage is a lot
I kinda love monotype teams so he really suits my thoughts
and expectations as well
Could SSR Cynthia replace Victor ?
Yeah
Is she better tho? cause she can hit physical with Phantom Force
bro why did you ignore SSRCynthia? She's a master fair for a reason 
I don’t think they have her
She’s moreso better than Victor + Spectrier due to on-demand Ghost Zone and potential for Defense and Sp. Def. debuffs
I do not :D
But is it worth replacing EVictor with SSR? Haze can be very useful
Honestly, the current, general team composition seems fine enough, especially if SSKorrina's nuke is as cracked as they say it is.
In CS for example, you could get the +3 on 5 stats parameter
Use spectral thief on middle and just haze on sides since you don't wanna deal with it
You’re honestly fine with Victor as your Ghost Zone setter, so it’s mainly up to whether you like Cynthia and/or Giratina enough to go for her
I assume it should last long enough to clear a ghost weak CS stage, for EBE/UB is where I doubt
But I will see eventually, let's focus CS
nah, there isn't much more I can think of that could enhance this team.
So ideally EVictor/SS Korrina/Aaron should do the job ?
or Sonia/Shauna depending on what you want to do
Aaron seems the most consistent, especially if you want to cheese with flinch.
I could also use SS Acerola, as long as I don't have to use my Grass team on the same CS rotation
Yeah sure! tho 50% isn't too reliable
just get lucky™️
Do note that for Ghost weak Will specifically you’ll have to switch up to run one of your more accessible damage-dealers since he has Impervious, but for all other Ghost weak stages SS Korrina should obliterate them
Will?
Unfortunately Johto CS
Who is Will and why do I seem to not remember him, hold on a second
Yeah, unfortunately Johto CS is a sad place for on-type SS Korrina
No
But it’s just a heads up that specifically for Johto CS the Ghost weak stage of the region doesn’t work well for SS Korrina
All other regions she’s good to go (and Ghost weak Wikstrom is specifically designed for her, even)
Ah that's great 
I can’t tell if I’m imagining things due to grass hse flashbacks or not but
Is grass cs a rerun or a new one?
cause it just looks familiar due to me staring at my grass roster for either second or third time
rerun
I'd just wait for it to come up so you can check your clear teams last time. If its still there i mean 😮
I don’t think I had dawn last time tbh lol
Honestly might just try to offtype the whole thing
Not like I have much grass fav wise at all

Thanks for confirmation tho
You cannot check teams used in previous Pasio Stadium because the data is erased after the end of CS, as stated by DeNA below the Hall of Fame

time to hunt for my pasio stadium clear in stage-clears :x
#1072120373858009088 message oh found it
Duplicated pairs spotted
Ban this user immediately
the only difference from it is we've got access to 3k max per battle
Excuse you, there is only one duplicate pair 
Stage gimmicks are still the same, but the point cap is raised from 2k (iirc) to 3k
Does the Pasio Stadium start this reset?
Pasio stadium is fun btw
People malded over fighting NCerena
In a day nvm
With that horrifying water shuriken thing
Bruh

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Ah i misremembered the date of the stadium. It was around April - May 2023 







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