Champion Stadium

[keen jasper]

4k pts.

[sick inlet]

I feel like she still would

[keen jasper]

Hmmm, then I should hope for perma field param round

[turbid geyser]

I couldn’t even do 3k 😭

She didn’t do enough damage to it

[sick inlet]

Move level? Team?

[turbid geyser]

I use acerola to buff victor’s crit + theme smiles

My biggest issue is guage

[keen jasper]

Aren't you supposed to replace Drake's weather?

[sick inlet]

They didn't use her for drake

I believe that's a team for Lucian

Still, would probably change acerola

[north crown]

Yeah. Would be nice to have gauge.

[cold kestrel]

Time to make teams for next week

[turbid geyser]

I ain’t sure for what tho

[turbid geyser]

Ghost team in general

[tulip python]

That’s not true, Solageo, Hop, Palkia are really good and very accessible

[silver dirge]

Where are you back-reading from bestie we've moved on from there a long time ago

[cold kestrel]

Teams for next week. My missing types were dark, ghost, fire, and water. Off typing steven with my adaman team since I don’t have any good psychic types

[tulip python]

I see adaman a lot for off type plays

Is he that good?

[versed meteor]

Alright fuck you Sidney

I just got an idea for what our coins should be used on

Lets have a csmm store like the BR has but uses coins

[versed meteor]

Hoenn 3k csmm is actually P2W

Thats Sidney btw

[lean lion]

Agree to disagree?

[paper summit]

also, let's remember we have a place for salt... this isn't it

[tulip python]

Do we have Galar CS?

I know we got Kanto, Alola, Hoenn, Kalos, Sinnoh

[paper summit]

no

there is no Paldea either but that one is obvious why

[tulip python]

Leon needs to step his game up then

[turbid geyser]

incoming galar leon stage: sentry entry 15

wise entry 10

because he's the unbeatable champion

[old orchid]

Stall: nuh uh

[rotund lagoon]

[opaque lodge]

Hi

Can someone help me with master mode ?

I'm trying to do 3k point per round. What selections should I pick to equal 3k points for OFF TYPE

every time I play with the selections...the enemy beats me. I can't seem to find a good blend to get 3k points and still beat the stage off type

[trail smelt]

That is way too vague lol

[rain turret]

you can check pinned for presets of 2500 points

just add what you think wont be much of a nuisance in your fight

[rotund lagoon]

Selections?

[mint dock]

im so bad at 3k master

[rotund lagoon]

I have other questions as well:

1. Do you know the basic fundamentals of teambuilding? Using the roster you have?
2. Why do you want to do 3k? There is no genuine need to do so if you are new, it’s better to go at a more comfortable pace using lower points.
3. Why off type specifically? If you are off typing, the parameters are completely different versus parameters for on typing. We have parameter sheets in the pins. Also there are a lot of free options you can put together for on typing some stages, if not all.

[rain turret]

true, they dont say the teams they're trying, the parameters used, the round nor who they're fighting

[opaque lodge]

How to access the pinned info?

[rotund lagoon]

Then why continue to persist with points you aren’t good at for lackluster rewards and do lower points instead at a pace that helps you learn?

[rotund lagoon]

Channel settings > Pinned Messages

[mint dock]

true

i am trying to beat sidney with ss hilbert but im not doing enough damage and then get one shot

[rotund lagoon]

If you really want to go high, 2.5k is perfectly fine, where the BP point rewards end.

[rotund lagoon]

SS Hilbert is a very good pair, it either comes down to the team, gameplay, parameters.

[mint dock]

i have beaten 12.5 k before when i played 1.5 yrs ago

not 1.5

but it was like last year

wait

was that 12.5k or 10k

now im trippin

i beat the electric stage 3k but thats just cus ash is broken

what are good units to run with ss hilbert

[rotund lagoon]

Hilbert wants a Sp Atk/Crit Support to help reduce setup time for him. Third pair can be a Sp Df debuffer.

[mint dock]

i was running alakazam sabrina with him

[rotund lagoon]

Good, she helps him. And what’s the third pair?

[mint dock]

i was shuffling between random units cus i kept dying

it there any sp def debuffer that tanks well

[rotund lagoon]

Dying how?

Cause remember, there are multiple factors.

[mint dock]

the enemy was one shotting me lol

i chose ltos of strength parameters

[rotund lagoon]

That is not specific enough. Sync or regular moves?

[mint dock]

regular moves

dealing like 1450 damage

[rotund lagoon]

Show the parameters and tell a third member you were using.

[mint dock]

k

i cant level up wallace because i dont have level cap materials

idk how to grind them

the targeting was meant to be wallace

wait

idk why i dont have physical damage reduction on

[formal vigil]

Why are you using Wallace?

[mint dock]

idk i didnt know who to use

lol

[formal vigil]

Do you Have Lucian?

[mint dock]

girafarig

?

[formal vigil]

Yes

[mint dock]

yes

[formal vigil]

I would use that instead of wallace

[mint dock]

k

i dont have 3/5 hilbert so i cant nuke well

[formal vigil]

Which supports do you have ex?

[mint dock]

only 7 💀

lucario cynthia, the free rosa, sonia, sycamore, melony, skyla, the gold and silver girl i forgot her name

lyra

yeah

i just ex random ones

shud i ex anyone here

[formal vigil]

Yeah so I probably do a team of ssa Cynthia Lucian and ss hilbert

[undone ether]

I'd plan your teams for the other fights as well. just in case.

[mint dock]

i have nothing good for steel weak

[undone ether]

For steel weak, use an off-type team.

[mint dock]

ss red

xd

thunderbolt

[sharp willow]

considering youre already off typing, i would recommend using a special attacker for it

[formal vigil]

you need special damage dealers for that fight

[mint dock]

oh

[undone ether]

SST Red for Phoebe is probably better.

[sharp willow]

off typing with physical damage is very awkward because of the Sentry Entry x2 passive

[mint dock]

greninja ?

[undone ether]

That works.

[sharp willow]

should work reasonably well

[mint dock]

k

greninja and kyogre

💀

[formal vigil]

Should work fine

[mint dock]

also hwat order shud i do these

like the diff rounds have the boosts

status condition boos

then additional effe t

etc

i can just do ash for electric weak

[undone ether]

I actually used Ash for Glacia xD

[mint dock]

who did u use for electric weak

i can use tb red for phoebe

[undone ether]

hold on

[mint dock]

and then ash for glacia

[undone ether]

this is my teams for this week

[mint dock]

bro i got back into the game after nc rosa left

💀

chase is in this game???

like the LGPE?

[undone ether]

nods

[mint dock]

he good?

[steel kelp]

isn’t he gone

[undone ether]

surprisingly tanky.

and yeah he dipped like a few days ago o-o

[mint dock]

chase getting respect he doesnt deserve

wild

i quit after Kyurem Black 🤣

[wicked junco]

Personally I think the most optimal order for this week is Phoebe > Drake > Sidney > Glacia

[undone ether]

oh right. forgot i used Burgh for Sidney 😮

Yeah Glacia is susceptible to stat drops.

So ash just killed her sides and he went for the big damage boost.

[mint dock]

for drake i beat him with palkia

[wicked junco]

Phoebe gets para easily

[undone ether]

oh you beat Drake already hmm

[mint dock]

i reset tho

[steel kelp]

Why

[wicked junco]

And normally I reserve gauge bonus for bug teams since they tend to be gauge heavy

[steel kelp]

Huh

[mint dock]

i had to switch to normal master mode

cus i accidentally chose 2950

insted of 3000

[undone ether]

Ah

[mint dock]

🤣

[steel kelp]

You

You’re not missing anything

[mint dock]

those champion spirits go hard

[steel kelp]

You’ll be drowning in them after a few weeks

[mint dock]

i have like 500 rn

[steel kelp]

And this is without even doin g 3k

[undone ether]

Yeah you dont need the extra o-o.. but hey if you wanna do it, sure.

[wicked junco]

That's what I also thought it was the norm

[mint dock]

i need to do 3k

[wicked junco]

But apparently some people really don't have enough of those somehow

[mint dock]

🗣️

[wicked junco]

So the more the merrier

[steel kelp]

I’m at like 1100 or something

Only been doing 10-12.5k

[mint dock]

the last hoenn mm i did was 12/26/2022

wild 💀

[undone ether]

whoa. a whole year D:

[mint dock]

yeah lol

ok just beat 3k with champion leaf tb red and sonia

for phoebe

op ahh team

[wicked junco]

I mean

Some weeks do be short on time like that

No time to think, just unga bunga

[rain turret]

https://tenor.com/view/caveman-carlos-bunga-carlitos-captain-gif-20967658

[rotund lagoon]

Bruh no wonder you were getting one shot, you gave him too many Atk parameters.

I also see a lot of free parameters you could have chosen instead depending on your team comps. For example, your SS Hilbert team is Special attack-focused. You don’t have Physical Damage Reduction 8 on, which is free points (since you have no physical attackers).
You also switch between PDR 8 and SDR 8 depending on your team.

Also Tech Sync Pairs Take x3 Damage screws over your team much more than you think combined with all that.

[wide adder]

The only time I take x role takes more damage is if I’m not using that role

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah the Strike one was fine to take for this team.

[wide adder]

3x damage of it I assume is multiplicative which makes it extremely dangerous when there’s aoe involved especially

[rotund lagoon]

I would certainly think so.
Also would you believe me if I said my 3k params don’t have any of those lol

[wide adder]

You already tend to get chunked for like almost half by some aoe moves without it

I believe that, my params for most teams takes none of the freebies lmao

I only swap when this can’t clear or when I’m trying goofy strats

Mostly cause I have a really developed box

SS Gladion with reflective -3 stat x6 is funny as shit though I will admit. Free -18 on mid

[rich needle]

That’s me

[trail smelt]

Yeah I wanna try it next csmm lol

[grand trout]

Um can i have a favor

My internet is slow so i cant load images, only text

What are next week's stages

[toxic cobalt]

Fairy ghost psychic fighting rock

Fairy fighting and rock are repeats

[grand trout]

Rock being Steven?

Oh he's in the middle so psychic

[sharp willow]

Rock is Drake

[grand trout]

Kk thanks

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah sorry just followed Lost's image

[cold kestrel]

How are my teams looking?

[swift swan]

i think both aaron and sonia is unnecessary there. with sonia you can afford a second damage dealer

the rest looks fine. it's hard mode so you'll be okay

[cold kestrel]

Don’t think I really have another damage dealer who would work well with adaman. When I end up doing the harder mode I’ll probably swap all of the teams around anyways

[wide adder]

Do you not own Brendan Sceptile or Sygna Suit Erika Leafeon?

Also does Adaman set grassy terrain or just sun? I forget. If he doesn’t set GT, one of the GT eggmons can work if you have Sprigatito or leafeon eggs

(Also everyone has mewtwo Giovanni but I assume from what you said yours probably isn’t ex or lacking something like Bianca for him?)

[cold kestrel]

My mewtwo isn’t exed

[cold kestrel]

I have brendan. Adaman sets sun on sync move

[wide adder]

I see. What move level is your Adaman? And do you happen to have either of the grassy terrain eggs I mentioned?

[cold kestrel]

He’s move level 1. And being completely honest I have ignored eggs

[wide adder]

A lot of the time the egg events have been really good tbh. I only ignore them when there’s no egg event

The event eggs recently like the paldea starters and eevee eggs though are extremely high value for f2p

So rip if you didn’t hatch any

[cold kestrel]

I didn’t at all

Not sure when the eggs were out since I took a break from the game as soon as I got iono pretty much

[wide adder]

Ahhh, I think the paldea eggs had happened but eevees might’ve been post iono. I don’t remember exact timings.

Brendan enjoys the sun if he’s 3/5 since he can get charging sun or whatever. Else maybe consider adding a fire dps with him since you’re offtyping anyway? Adaman kit sounds like it really enables double dps teams so

Having two supports with him just doesn’t seem necessary

TLDR basically add someone that can abuse sun to kill stage faster

[cold kestrel]

Not sure if he’s 3/5

I’m completely out of orbs either way

For a fire dps I can use silver and hooh

[sweet ivy]

is glacia defensively tanky this week wtf

[silver dirge]

Not really, she's geared on offenses

[sweet ivy]

in my hall of fame i beat her with a steven team but now i cant even kill her with rose/argenta/sc steven

am i washed...

[silver dirge]

She has Sentry Entry x2, but Rose being enabled by those 2 should not struggle at all

[manic kiln]

you should be able to clear with that team

[silver dirge]

Can you send your parameters?

[sweet ivy]

maybe its a param diff

i think im on On type pre sync

lemme check

[silver dirge]

You should send your actual ones in-game just in case you've missed something and we can check

[sweet ivy]

ok just cleared it

it was a param issue

had the more hp params

[exotic tinsel]

Whos the 3rd for drake? I've manage to beat the other 3 e4 with only 1 substitution

[dense birch]

Probably any support that synergizes with the team, or a unit that fills your type medal if acerola can tank

[exotic tinsel]

I can probably do it with blastoise, but thats leaving me really thin for the champ

[old orchid]

which supports do you have left?

[old orchid]

do you plan to use Hop somewhere?

Jasmine also works, as long as you have some ways to buff your dmg dealer's offensive stats on Steven

[exotic tinsel]

No hop plans, though steel is a repeat. Not sure if I care though

[old orchid]

should be fine as long as you fill 12+ types on the first week

[cold kestrel]

If you’re having trouble with a stage might as well throw on a repeat type. You need two weeks to complete a medal anyways 🤷🏾

[silver dirge]

[nocturne pawn]

i like dragon weak drake

bro instantly exploded to anni raihan sync

[dense birch]

Hello, looking for some CSMM team building for next week. 2.5k presets unless 3k is achievable. I’m most worried about:

1. Fighting Weak Gloria - has both Sentry and Wise Entry 3. Alternative is to poison stall her, assuming there’s a good pstall round param for her
2. Ghost Weak Phoebe - has Sentry/Wise Entry 2. Could SST Red
3. Fairy Weak Sidney - will likely do aoe paralysis right before sync. So it’s either pre-sync him, or run post-sync with status guard options? Not sure what offtype i can run with for him - worried my sun SS red comp won’t have enough gas for his 28k HP

The other 2 i feel should be fine

Also having a think about my offtype options, i feel like here are some ideas i can potentially play around with:

1. Gordie/SS Red/Hilbert - Fire rebuff, Sun, SS Red sync nukes (double nukes with quadqueue), Hilbert provides Atk 6 and Crit 3 for Haymaker bonus
2. NC Serena with Kris/Feraligatr - i finally got Kris to 3/5, so possible Water rebuff option comp
3. NC Serena with MR or Karen- I have both MR at 3/5 and Karen at 4/5, so I can maybe try a Dark rebuff comp too
4. SST Red - self explanatory
5. Poison Stall - self explanatory
6. Gloria/Cinderace - has three types of rebuffs, so I can try a Darach or Blue/Pidgeot comp for Flying, and maybe a Korrina/Lucario or Riley/Lucario for Fighting rebuff

[old orchid]

Glacia's entry passives are +3 both defense on entry, not triple her base defensive stats

so dw about it

same to Phoebe, but you want to debuff her attack or she will hit hard

[dense birch]

Maybe Lucian over Leaf then. And let Sycamore tank?

[old orchid]

BP Valerie should eat Sidney alive, but yes paralysis is an issue

you can move Sycamore to Sidney and use his TM to cure paralysis

if Leaf is 3/5 you can keep her

[dense birch]

Yep she’s 3/5

[exotic tinsel]

Alright, ready to start attempting Steven. Which bonus challenge should I be doing using clay, skyla, mix red?

Jk mix red just dominated

[keen jasper]

Is that hard or master?

[exotic tinsel]

Hard

This was my first clear

[mint dock]

did it 🗣️

[hearty lynx]

I might just poison stall sidney

Only have ss hilbert and alder

[wooden iris]

Anyone got 3k point team to beat glacia

She making me mad

[sharp willow]

could you fill this out with all the characters you own and post it here pls

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[wooden iris]

I have everything relevant

All master fairs besides galor birds

[autumn jay]

@grand steppe is there an easy way to screenshot my parameters?

Parameters should be the same as the 1500 on type pre sync

Should I switch to post sync?

[grand steppe]

well that parameter is usually taken

in most presets

when the battle starts, in their health bars, the should apper near their buffs

[autumn jay]

The gradual healing? I have that on

[grand steppe]

okay this team is lacking unless you're waiting for 50% hp to use Cynthia's trainer move

[autumn jay]

I mean I could reset until he uses twister and then use it? I tried torchic but there's way too many water moves

[grand steppe]

Since your using Skyla, why not use the Half HP parameter.

Cynthia's trainer move will give you +3 crit and -3 sync countdown

[autumn jay]

I'll give it a shot!

[grand steppe]

Grid Skyla for 2x Potion refreshes, and possibly reset for those procs.

Drake hits harder because of the Rain weather.

[autumn jay]

Well, I'll try it again switching back to gradual healing lol

[grand steppe]

wait

I was telling you to try the half hp option, but you need to keep gradual healing.

[autumn jay]

Yes, I had accidentally taken it off while I was trying another idea. It's back on now

Oofda, cynthia still dies to sync

[grand steppe]

did cynthia get +3 crit?

[autumn jay]

She only got +2 for some reason

Her health bar was still green, whereas rosa's was yellow

[grand steppe]

I think she needs to between 0 and 49% to get +3. If a twister comes out first, you should get it then.

[autumn jay]

That would make sense. Would bug or steel be easier to take on and then come back? For bug I have a 4/5 guzma and for steel I'd just use solgaleo and hop

[grand steppe]

Well, you could leverage the rain by using a water type or Cyrus (Palkia)

[autumn jay]

Hmm, I suppose EX Cyrus would basically be like using cynthia on sync...

[grand steppe]

then again it's not extended

[autumn jay]

It will reuse rain before the sync so if push comse to shove I can just wait for it to use rain dance and then use my own sync?

[grand steppe]

cyrus 5/5 ex is way easier to utilize than 1/5 sscynthia

[autumn jay]

Poor cynthia, doomed to sit in my box until I have candies

I have a feeling my diantha and gardevoir are the same way...

[grand steppe]

well cynthia can be in the team, giving sync accel and supplement dps.

[autumn jay]

Would switching rosa for ss leaf and venasaur maybe work? Cynthia would just have to buff herself...

[grand steppe]

what would Leaf be providing?

[autumn jay]

defense lowering, poison, gradual healing, and extra potions?

[wooden iris]

Can Anyone got 3k point team to beat glacia or can help me out

[grand steppe]

and a very low speed stat.

[wooden iris]

I been doing this all day

[grand steppe]

Glacia has Sentry Entry x2. So if you're using a physical damage dealer, you're essentially doing a hard hard mode.

[wooden iris]

🧐

[grand steppe]

Leaf while being a bit bulky, isn't as sturdy as a dedicated support.

[wooden iris]

What should I use

[grand steppe]

What's the team you were using?

[wooden iris]

I was using everything

Glalie would live with bit of HP left

[autumn jay]

Good point. I'll keep trying once my phone charges

[wooden iris]

Might be more de I'm using

I usually just do preview teams and copy what people use

[grand steppe]

Well what did you try just now?

[wooden iris]

Fire team with Victini

Moltres Ho oh Victini

[grand steppe]

seems like enough, even if it's mostly physical

just sync with Moltres instead of victini

and switch victini to searing shot

[wooden iris]

I was spamming searing shot

Would frog or Jirachi work

[grand steppe]

you have a special steel type, and you're not using it

actually V-create is probably still better than spamming Searing

unless you turned on phys redu 8

[wooden iris]

What para should I use

That probably my issue

[grand steppe]

well, you'd need an off-type 3k preset, if you were using victini/moltres/hooh

[wooden iris]

For that team I was running mawhile and hop

I probably should run something boost sp df

Im try on type it

With Jirachi

[grand steppe]

Melony would probably be good.

[wooden iris]

As a 3rd hmm

I do have her ex

What paramantrrs should I use

[grand steppe]

3k on-type

pre-sync

[wooden iris]

on type

[grand steppe]

are you using marnie?

for steel zone

[wooden iris]

Yup

[grand steppe]

maybe this

I use something like this, but my Jirachi is 3/5 ex. Soo, you might want to remove offense in favor of strength if you're planning on tanking a sync move

[wooden iris]

My Jirachi 3/5 as well

[frozen fossil]

(Master Mode, Round 1)
I'm trying to Poison Stall Glacia, but I keep dying because Evasion strats don't work.
The two teams I've tried are:

• Leaf/Venusaur, Janine/Ariados, Sycamore/Xerneas
• Ghetsis/Kyurem, Lucy/Seviper, Victor/Greedent
  I usually get KO'd shortly after Glalie's second Sync.
  Would it be feasible to insert Colress somewhere, in order to reduce the opponents' Accuracy before it snowballs?

[wooden iris]

Finally

Getting frog 5/5 after that fight

4/5 currently

[autumn jay]

@grand steppe thank you again for your help earlier, switching to palkia did it and then the rest were fairly managable

[mint dock]

i got shafted on shiny gren 💀

[mellow linden]

I think that’s more something for #salt-channel

[versed meteor]

See this is why nobody likes you glacia

One blizzard away from another L

[silver dirge]

You don't have Bianca, Variety Elio or Egg Espeon?

[toxic cobalt]

Hey now, a win is a win

[silver dirge]

oh they won

reading failure

good job

[toxic cobalt]

The key to winning remains ||just get lucky||

[versed meteor]

It was on type

[grand trout]

Is 3k possible with perrserker and glacia?

[undone ether]

depends on your team. i know someone used perrserker against Glacia :x

[grand trout]

Tempted to reset cs

To trt

[grand trout]

Is it 3k? Sadly I don't have Steel zone

[old orchid]

Perrserker doesnt need zone, but it def needs heavy support to clear Glacia

[keen jasper]

Yeah, you need gauge support

[grand trout]

I have top supports like bede and kriss

[old orchid]

Gauge is not enough. It also wants spatk + crit + healing to tank Blizzards

[grand trout]

No blue tho

[old orchid]

They are enough to enable the cat

[left storm]

If you struggle, bring sleep

[grand steppe]

become Samuel L. Jackson

[grim bison]

Does anyone have parameters for 3k off type pre sync?

[mellow linden]

3k heavily depends on the team and stage, the most we can offer is to pick a 2.5k parameter base and adjust based on your needs and/or preferences

[frozen fossil]

How the h*ck am I supposed to Poison stall Glacia? Evasion is obviously useless, and none of my Sync Pairs can survive too long after the second Sync. I've tried my Poison stall cores of SS Leaf + Janine and Ghetsis + Lucy, with the third slot switching between Victor/Greedent, Sycamore/Xerneas, and Morty/Mismagius.
Is the Poison stall dream dead? If so, what else can I do?
Update: Nevermind, using Meloetta as Support did the trick.

[rotund lagoon]

@junior crown ? :3

Oh oop

[frozen fossil]

Thanks, but I just managed to clear it. Though I feel bad for using Meloetta on Round 1 already.

[frozen fossil]

Any advice for Sidney? Round 4, (Master Mode)
I'm thinking of using Lusamine and Nolan as my attackers, with Hilbert providing the buffs.

[peak stirrup]

Glacia strats? I have no steel special attackers

[mellow linden]

In no particular order, physical Steel with Zone, off-type, and Poison stall are the top 3 options

[peak stirrup]

Hmm no zone and my go to offtype is NC Red and Irida so that’s probably a death wish

Stall it is

[crystal notch]

do you...not have any other offtype options

[junior crown]

I gave up on my full f2p poison stalls because of 15k, but 12.5k is still totally possible to do

Now I'm doing easy mode, full boosted pairs and clear fast for 15k

when we get new parameters in the next point boost (I hope), maybe I'll come back to full f2p poison stalls

[left storm]

Seeing all these people struggling with glacia is the best way to promote one of the best eggmons

https://tenor.com/view/perrserker-dance-meowth-pokemon-sword-shield-gif-11264452643594142414

[wide adder]

me when no funny cat, but new fairy type: haha fleur cannon go BRRRRRR

but yeah, i should watch out for a perserk rerun prob. ...is that the one running soon actually?

[rotund lagoon]

Two resets away, in fact #1012256199128915968 message

[weak sleet]

Can champion Marnie off type glacia?

Please ping me

[rotund lagoon]

She 1000% can

Plus it never hurts to try first

[weak sleet]

Thanks

I don't have any steel that can clear glacia I think since they are all physical.

[rotund lagoon]

Technically powerboosted and EX’d Solgaleo can, with Zone.

[weak sleet]

I have that mawile Marnie

[rotund lagoon]

Should work, then. But it’s also up to you which method you wanna go through lol

[weak sleet]

Noted thanks

[weak sleet]

I usually rotate my same teams over and over for stadium every week.

[wide adder]

i just teambuild on the fly for most teams, usually with 1-2 units as a core for each type for most stages

[old orchid]

People plan teams ahead?

[wide adder]

at most i might plan rough drafts a week ahead, but ive had weeks where i ditched it for one that uses params more or if i was having any trouble

[undone ether]

i plan teams ahead :o~

[old orchid]

5k per round in Hoenn CS is
https://youtu.be/nIRExS7fa8s?si=GWXmkxd3CgkvSvS8

[undone ether]

5k each?!

oh this one was last week

First Fight is Glacia, and he's basically Flinch Stalling lulz

he clutched a Freeze on Phoebe .-.;

[rose ermine]

She's really beefy,what do I do?3k presync params

[silver dirge]

Send the actual parameters in game

Rose shouldn't struggle especially in zone

[undone ether]

I see a max HP 2 😮

[lean lion]

And sp/def 1

[undone ether]

the ATK.SPATK 5 is good enough considering your HP is still up there o-o

[rose ermine]

Ok

[rose ermine]

Close

[cold kestrel]

Now that i got lana, how are my team setups looking?

My four needed types are water, fire, ghost, dark. Which are included

[keen jasper]

Why do you have Sonia?

[main crow]

I have to assume it's either support ex or heal

[cold kestrel]

For both of those

[silver dirge]

Is that 1/5 Lana?

[north crown]

Forget that - do you not have a better fire type?

[cold kestrel]

Yes

[cold kestrel]

I got others

[silver dirge]

This is hard mode yeah?

[north crown]

Just concerned cuz that’s slow ass team

[cold kestrel]

Not sure who would be better

[cold kestrel]

Yes

[silver dirge]

First rotation or do you already have some types filled in?

[north crown]

Kiawe is literally right there

[cold kestrel]

I got all but dark, water, fire, ghost

[silver dirge]

Should be able to get the medal next week then

[cold kestrel]

Alright, added kiawe to the team

[north crown]

You could also consider changing Red for a different support

If you want to keep Torchic cuz due to fast offensive buffs

[cold kestrel]

Nah it’s fine swapping

[north crown]

TL;DR you have options

[cold kestrel]

Other than that does everything else look fine

[silver dirge]

Should be good

[north crown]

Basically. ik Poers is there just for gauge. Bea’s team i s a tad bit questionable but it’s whatever for Hard. Yeah everything looks alright.

[cold kestrel]

Leaf is there for filling in types and hilbert is just there to fill in the type

[sweet ivy]

for an aaron/bugsy/guzma team against sidney what params should i use

[old orchid]

I would go for pre sync route

The pins have guide on params in case you dont know

[sweet ivy]

okii thanks

[rose ermine]

Am i good for next week?left 5k,right 15k

[swift swan]

that 15k Drake team is going to face a lot of gauge issues

and uh idk what you're cooking with OG Gladion on Sidney, good luck ig

[formal vigil]

Better to use BP Valerie

[rotund lagoon]

@scenic pike Stop your reactions please, this is seriously annoying.

[silver dirge]

@scenic pike You've been asked not to leave unnecessary reactions already. Please refrain

[grand trout]

What?

Rose can do glacia?

[toxic cobalt]

Probably, Rose strong

[grand trout]

But

My ncred can't scratch drake

[toxic cobalt]

Genuinely how

[grand trout]

Maybe my params

[versed meteor]

That akward moment when you did not get the 3 passive striker

[swift swan]

definitely params

[versed meteor]

Acute sense is bypassed by gradual healing right?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[versed meteor]

Hmm so why is drake taking 4k damage from spacial rend

[old orchid]

Are you enabling special dmg reduction? Also re check Cyrus grid to see if you are using wrong grid or not

[keen jasper]

How many sync buffs?

[versed meteor]

Support ex, so 2

[keen jasper]

Did you put any defense parameters?

[versed meteor]

Using the spacial rend grid

[versed meteor]

Nope, just hp

Gradual healing ran out at almost the worst time possible

[sick inlet]

I have a chance of redemption for Alolan meowth!

[old orchid]

Use a weather changer instead and reduce bulk on Drake

[swift swan]

try strength instead of HP

[frozen fossil]

I have no idea how to deal with Steven. Bertha doesn't deal enough damage, and Hilbert dies shortly after the first Sync, which means I never even get to use Bertha's Sync. I can forget off-typing, because that would require me to set even more offense parameters. I don't think I can pull off Poison stall with my remaining guys.

[keen jasper]

No terrain, but still impressive nonetheless

[undone ether]

5k points? o.o

[keen jasper]

No, 4k

7 stacks

[undone ether]

you doing 4k on other matches?

[keen jasper]

Well, I've only done 4k Glacia thus far

[swift swan]

Bertha + courtney should be fine, no? reset until you get weak moves from steven

or get a bulkier support

[keen jasper]

Bunderbolt can definitely deal higher if NC Blue's TM MPR-ed

[undone ether]

7 stacks huh

best i could with that team is +4 xd

[keen jasper]

My Chase is only 1/5

[undone ether]

Oh its chase

i thought it was SST Red xD

7 stacks with chase is pretty nice + region circle

[keen jasper]

The extra SpMUN stacks more than makes up for ET boost

@undone ether So close

[undone ether]

you aiming for 999,999 godchu damage?

[keen jasper]

This is with 9 stacks

[undone ether]

so, 1 more stack? xD

[keen jasper]

I think I can do it if Blue does another TM MPR?

[undone ether]

For maximum 10? hmmm

[silver dirge]

That's fine

Pickup the first 2 params, they're bypassed by crits

drop max sync CD

all of it

pick up sync buff, you should aim to pre sync

If your tank can take it, you can pick up some more attack

Well there's several ways you can go about it. Deny the attacks so they don't hit you in the first place, or have survivability things like endure

[frozen fossil]

Guess I'm going to be banned for toxicity soon, because I just beat Steven by Poison stalling, meaning I Poison stalled 3 out of 5 battles.

[old orchid]

You beat the entire CS, thats still a great achievement

[frozen fossil]

Thanks. I'm relieved I've managed to even get 15.000 points. I am now fully poisonpilled.

[old orchid]

Hoenn CS gives you trauma because of their difficulty, you payback with a bit of toxic

[undone ether]

a win's a win no matter how you slice it 😮

[left storm]

Tomorrow

[keen jasper]

Now do higher points

[undone ether]

i think i'll actually cry if i have to deal with 3k pts Drasna and 3k pts Malva 😭

[silver dirge]

Bestie your roster is good enough to deal with those like a breeze

Don't worry

[undone ether]

i wonder if i've got kalos clears in my spreadsheet 😭

oh i do

i love how i haad 1/5 NC Blue in one week, and he's 3/5 on the other www

[left storm]

Rei why choose specifically two of the shittiest Kalos stages

Malva and drasna are most times super free

[undone ether]

oh waater weak Malva gonna be nice with Eusine + NC Serena combo 😮

[rose ermine]

Is that better?(I'm using gladion cuz bp val got stale)

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Sonia’s a better teammate pick then Colress because it means Gladion has less required setup time

[swift swan]

I have very low hopes with Gladion in general but sure

That is a cohesive team

[mellow linden]

It’s probably doable because Zone

[swift swan]

Zone, ex support, defense debuffs, i sure hope it does 😭 sidney is so bulky though

[glossy bramble]

Struggling hard against beating Glacia for 3k

[mellow linden]

Team and parameters?

[glossy bramble]

Nvm Meloetta got me there 😁

I have Duraludon but couldn't make him survive

[onyx ice]

Used SS Brendan Chase and NC leaf

Since I don't have bug zone I had to use Kanto circle

[manic mica]

Does any of my units provide enough damage for pre sync parameters 3k?

Idk if volcarona or genesect is better for pre sync

[formal vigil]

definitely genesect

[manic mica]

I just need a unit for spe def debuff then

[formal vigil]

what supports do you have?

[manic mica]

Vespaquin is not good?

[rotund lagoon]

You do not need to do monotype teams first of all

Secondly, SS Hilbert wants a Sp Atk/Crit Support to reduce setup time. And a Sp Df debuffer is good for third slot.

[rotund lagoon]

SS Brendan, NC Blue, SS Elesa, Sycamore are good.

[mellow linden]

NC Blue and NC Bede are both way better Support picks for an SS Hilbert team than Aaron

[rotund lagoon]

I missed Bede

[formal vigil]

ss hilbert ss brendan with skyla

[rotund lagoon]

Why Skyla?

[formal vigil]

speed buffs also buff defence

since sidney spam seed bomb

[rotund lagoon]

I would just do Roxanne instead for Support at that point.

[mellow linden]

Could also just do Lucian + NC Blue or NC Bede for the teammates, probably

There’s loads of options here

[rotund lagoon]

Oh DUH, NC Blue does raise defenses, even if slow. But Lucian contributes better than having Skyla for third slot anyway

Plus I’ve never had that much of an issue being against physical opponents with SS Brendan anyway

[manic mica]

Imma use nc bede then

What’s a good unit for spe def debuff unit for my third slot?

[rotund lagoon]

Do you have Lucian?

[manic mica]

What Pokémon does Lucian have? And I believe I don’t since I filtered lowers spe def

[mellow linden]

Girafarig

[cinder summit]

Lucian & Girafarig

Acquisition:

General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Sinnoh)

Alternates:

None

[mellow linden]

Lucian might not show up on that filter because his Sp. Def. debuffs are on a passive and not a move

[rotund lagoon]

The in-game filter is not that reliable tbh

[manic mica]

Oh I see. Yea I have him 5/5….

[mellow linden]

Easy 3rd team member then

[manic mica]

Alrighty ^.^ thank you

Now to set up the pre sync parameters from the pin messages

[odd narwhal]

Having trouble breaking through 3k Steven this week, my ground options just aren't doing enough and none of the off types I've tried can cut it

Pairs I’ve used already

[manic kiln]

cynthia, ingo. maxie move level?

bertha and courtney can also clear if they're 3/5

[odd narwhal]

Cynthia 3, Ingo 3, Maxie 1, Courtney 5, Bertha 4

[manic kiln]

then you should be able to clear
build a team with cynthia as the dps, sync with her both time
probably ingo cynthia and a def debuff, or courtney for zone to make sure you can presync

[odd narwhal]

Ingo, Cynthia, Courtney wasn't cutting it pre sync

[manic kiln]

parameters? should run offensive param with mostly str and atk, no hp no def

try bertha courtney ingo then, bertha main nuke, courtney can kill sides after

[odd narwhal]

Bertha's sync isn't one shotting Metagross

[manic kiln]

how much did she do, did you trap them, did you have sand & zone active

[frozen fossil]

Take the Poison stall pill. You have Janine and Erika/Tangela. As a third unit, I'd have suggested Colress, due to his AOE Accuracy reduction, but you've already used him.

[manic kiln]

no need to poison stall when that ground roster is strong enough

[odd narwhal]

Doing like 32k with everything up, barely not enough

[manic kiln]

parameters? i cleared with minimal atk buffs so you can replace ingo for another support to max her atk, bertha will be wasting a few turns to set up sandstorm then

[manic kiln]

yeah change the support then to max her atk then it should be enough

[odd narwhal]

Well I'm getting Metagross now but dying to the sides

[manic kiln]

make sure to keep sand up, bertha is still very tanky with sand, sides can't 1 shot her, 1 extra bulldoze from courtney then she can die, with trap + rock field bertha can finish
also I don't understand how your cynthia couldn't presync them, my 1st sync did 50% of the mid and wiped the sides

[odd narwhal]

Idk how but that attempt worked

[manic kiln]

grats

[mellow linden]

Oh, SS Korrina time next week

Cool

[brave halo]

So you said about using skyla, I can use her, but also had the thought, would Dawn hurt to use?

[rotund lagoon]

Weird question….do you have SS Wally?

[mellow linden]

Dawn offers less gauge support and less healing capability, I personally wouldn’t call that a worthwhile trade for some semi-unreliable Attack debuffs

[brave halo]

I probably should've expected that being called out, that's on me but yes I have sswally but this is specifically a run where I don't use him

I used him as focus last time and want to focus someone else

[rotund lagoon]

Why not? He has all you want in one package instead of restricting yourself.

[brave halo]

Especially since I'd be forced to sync with him first

[rotund lagoon]

Rebuff, zone, debuffs

[rotund lagoon]

Get a Mega Support like SS Blue

[mellow linden]

I would think SS Gladion is automatically the focus of basically any team he’s a part of, but eh, probably won’t matter whether he has Rebuff + Zone or just Rebuff

[rotund lagoon]

I’m just going along for the sake of what they want tbh

[manic kiln]

a gladion team doesn't need any sync to wipe the enemies, so you can sync with whatever, mega, support, even gladion himself

[brave halo]

Still I wanted to have a fairy team without sswally, and honestly I was gonna do ny lisia bit then pulled gladion

[mellow linden]

Penny + Skyla, SS Wally + Skyla, SS Blue + SS Wally, any of those combos (and probably others) should work fine for SS Gladion teammates

He legitimately will shred the opponent so fast that it doesn’t matter a whole lot

[rotund lagoon]

I would argue Penny is not needed at all…due to good Sp Atk/Crit Supports like her being few and limited.

And ofc no synergy from buffs

[mellow linden]

If she’s not doing better elsewhere she’s honestly not a bad pick due to Fairy Rebuff + Sp. Def. debuffs, but if she does more for a different team then she probably would be better off helping that different team

But eh, probably not a big deal either way

[brave halo]

All the other teams are filled honestly and pretty necessary based on my current focuses

[manic kiln]

for ontype gladion is enough, rebuff and zone are good for offtype

[brave halo]

I could still use skyla, no big deal, I just figured that attack drop and x defense might be necessary cause the sync from Sidney is physical

[mellow linden]

I doubt he’s even gonna be able to Sync

We’re talking on-type SS Gladion with Fairy Rebuff and Sp. Def. debuffs, if the opponent is able to Sync then something has gone wrong with parameters or gameplay

[manic kiln]

i know for some reasons you still had to post sync even with busted units but if anyone can brute force the stage fast enough it's gladion

[mellow linden]

Or exceptionally bad Fleur Cannon accuracy shenanigans

But if that last one happens just reset

[brave halo]

That also was why I tried to get pinpoint on elaine

[mellow linden]

Elaine probably still works

So on that front it’s up to whether you’re fine with the risk of needing to do resets

[brave halo]

At least on a good note, skyla means I can not deal with speed up for too long

[rotund lagoon]

At this point, just try out the teams and experiment :P

[mellow linden]

Yeah, it’s pretty much just “pick your favorite Support option, switch up Support/params if it doesn’t work within a number of tries you consider reasonable”

On-type SS Gladion is super flexible team options

[brave halo]

Yeah my options have turned into dawn, elaine, and skyla cause they all got good stuff to help cause no way I'm letting him one shot very early on

[rotund lagoon]

…..uh, why is that? You cannot stop how good a sync pair is…

[mellow linden]

I assume they mean the opposing Sidney

[rotund lagoon]

I don’t think that should be an issue ^^;;;;;;;;

[mellow linden]

Yeah, worst case scenario it’s just a reset if he goes full power offense

[brave halo]

Yeah im more used to just expecting 3k as in "go ahead and hit me for half health every hit....it's fiiiiine"

[azure shale]

Does anyone have the link to the form to fill out for all your total sync pairs?

[silver dirge]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[brave halo]

Hold on, there is someone else I can use too but I need to raise him to 3/5 and give him a lucky scroll, being lodge wally, not sswally before that gets called out

Looks like that 4 options in total

[rotund lagoon]

[manic kiln]

lodge wally is meh, probably got 1-2 shot even with defensive buffs

[brave halo]

The only last one I found has been easter burgh

[brave halo]

I'm actually kinda curious now, who exactly was the Sidney stage actually meant for naturally? I see the lowered Para and confusion

[trail smelt]

Palerena for paralysis I guess

[rotund lagoon]

Which one?

[brave halo]

The fairy one

[sharp willow]

probably ss wally

focusing on special attacks, he wants those debuffs, and they have really low confusion mitigation

[brave halo]

They also got low paralysis mitigation too

The best I see that fit all 3 at once is calem

Tho I'll admit, maybe im crazy but I'm about to instead have mix red in for max sync countdown, attack and spdef drops, and Defense buffs

[rotund lagoon]

And zone

[rotund lagoon]

With Gladion…..?

[brave halo]

Yeah

[rotund lagoon]

The more you’re going into this, the more ridiculous the ideas are
Mix Red is supposed to be a powerful damage dealer, he does not deserve to be reduced to such a low level

And we said a bunch of times, SS Gladion should clear the stage just fine, especially with the combos we recommended

[turbid geyser]

Bede

I think

[brave halo]

Then why is he able to give defenses to an ally? As well as add in a bunch of utility based options as well?

[cinder summit]

Red & Venusaur (Dynamax)

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) Silent Overgrowth Grass Beam: Power +25
(3) Silent Overgrowth Grass Beam: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(2) Giga Frenzy Plant: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Mini Potion All: Master Healer 1 - Increases the amount of HP restored by the user's healing moves.
(2) Razor Leaf: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Razor Leaf: Superduper Effective 9 - Powers up moves that are super effective.
(2) Razor Leaf: Toxic Chance 4 - Has a chance (50%) of leaving the target poisoned when a move targeting that opponent is successful.
(2) Toughen Up to Win!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.

‎

(3) Mini Potion All: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(3) Toughen Up to Win!: Clever Friend 9 - When the user's move targeting an allied sync pair (excluding field effects) is successful, increases the Special Moves ↑ Next effect of the allied sync pair affected by the move by 1 rank.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(1) Antitoxin - Prevents the user from getting poisoned or badly poisoned.
(1) Lithe - Prevents the user from getting paralyzed.

‎

(2) Grassy Tenacity - Prevents the user from flinching, becoming confused, or becoming trapped when the terrain is Grassy Terrain.
(2) Initial Pinch Special Boost 2 - Increases the user's Special Moves ↑ Next effect by 2 ranks the first time it is in a pinch each battle.
(2) Speeding Sun 2 - Quickly charges the move gauge when the weather is sunny.
(2) Turbo Turf 2 - Quickly charges the move gauge when the terrain is Grassy Terrain.
(2) Witty Hit 4 - Has a chance (50%) of raising the user's Sp. Atk by one stat rank when its attack move is successful.

‎

(3) Dirty Fighting 3 - Powers up the user's moves against targets that are affected by a status condition.
(3) Grassy Terrain: S-Moves ↑ 5 - Powers up the user's sync move when the terrain is Grassy Terrain.
(3) MAX Countdown 2 - Reduces the user's sync move countdown by 2 after using its max move.
(3) MAX Double Down 3 - Powers up the user's max moves that are super effective.
(3) Smarty-Pants - The more the target's Sp. Def is lowered, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Unfortuitous 9 - Lowers one of the target's following stats by one stat rank at random when the user's attack move against it is successful: Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, accuracy, or evasiveness.

[nocturne pawn]

uh he doesnt have that much utility tbh

attack drops and mini potion all is good defensively but hes a damage dealer first and foremost

[old orchid]

Bede, because of innate Gosmack and Status Shield on TM, as well as Sidney's demanding for spatk drops

You have been advised to not worry about paralysis with SS Gladion multiple times already, so please dont ignore them

[nocturne pawn]

ss gladion should be able to just destroy him with absolute ease

[old orchid]

hey could have cleared Sidney long ago if they just ignored the issue which Gladion doesnt care about

[nocturne pawn]

its not even fairy weak though its bug

i think they were planning for next week but like yeah he doesnt give a fuck about paralysis anyway

[brave halo]

Gladion may not, but the other two will

[old orchid]

Who are the other two?

[north crown]

what's going on?

[old orchid]

Paralysis only matters when the damage dealer is inflicted, which in this case he doesnt care, like at all

[brave halo]

Penny guaranteed and the other is various between multiple options

[old orchid]

Better not wasting your time on a little thing which is not even a problem

[old orchid]

#1009554906568462476 message so in the end, the problem is non existence

[north crown]

lol k

[brave halo]

It can still be a problem cause not all the options tackle everything at once

[old orchid]

Sidney only uses Thunder Wave RIGHT BEFORE HIS SYNC, and Gladion destroys everything after EX Support sync

Sidney dies before he HAS A CHANCE to paralyze you

[brave halo]

That's assuming he can tho

[old orchid]

just use pre sync params

[north crown]

Just to clarify, do we know if SSGlad is EXed?

[brave halo]

Ex but not roled

[old orchid]

his EX contributes very little

[north crown]

waitamintue can he even nuke?

[old orchid]

his B Move is literally a nuke

[rigid flint]

Yes but his B Move is where his damage mostly comes from

Fleur Cannon on its own does do some decent damage

[north crown]

oh I completely for about the BMove.. whoops

[brave halo]

But my issue which is why I call out the Para all the time is due to a 4 gauge move

I'm always expecting to get hit by one sync, the other two loose speed by that para

[north crown]

bro you don't need to worry about para if all you're doing is sync and dmax nuking

If you're that worried, grab lithe or stat immunity on your tank

[old orchid]

@brave halo please read my advice CAREFULLY

[north crown]

does he really destroy with just 2 sync buffs? ik his BMove is busted but like

[brave halo]

I don't trust it being able to kill before a sync, not at 1/5

Can do great damage sure, but not kill

[old orchid]

with spdef debuff, Fairy rebuff and SMUN from Penny, even at 1/5 his B Move is very strong

[tired sleet]

I’ll do the calcs

[north crown]

the lineup looks like it's dual sylveon and megearna, limiteds at 1/5, correct?

then yeah looks busted enough

[brave halo]

Currently it's magearna and penny/sylveon, not using egg sylveon cause I don't trust it'll live at all

[old orchid]

you are supposed to KILL EVERYTHING after EX support sync with his B Move, adding Sylveon to the comp makes the chance nearly guaranteed

[brave halo]

My options for number 3 are skyla, mix red, elaine, lodge wally, easter burgh, I'm trying to engender another but I'm blanking I apologize

[old orchid]

the chance of failing is because of skill issue with parameters

[north crown]

yeah.. sounds like a skill issue to me

also, I love that I can finally say "skill issue" without everyone judging me somewhat

[old orchid]

i still do

[tired sleet]

This is against a strength 12 enemy

Wait no i did it wrong

[old orchid]

you should calc with post sync and +2 sync buffs

[old orchid]

geez thats enough to kill

[tired sleet]

2 sync buffs, -1 Fairy Rebuff, -6 SpAtk, -1 SpDef (into a Trained Mind 5 enemy that starts with 114 SpDef, aka strength+12)

[old orchid]

did you take account of these things + Fairy Zone?

oof too slow

[tired sleet]

Yes zone too

[brave halo]

Fairy zone wouldn't be added as a heads up

[old orchid]

i failed to see the issue here

[tired sleet]

If you’re not using zone it still does 30k, while the regular Fleur Cannon does 10k

[north crown]

sounds like there's no excuse to not presync

[old orchid]

even then Gladion just doesnt care

[brave halo]

I still expect all stages to sync regardless

I'd rather be safe on it

[north crown]

bro what's the point of presync params if you assume so..??!?!

preventing sync is the ENTIRE POINT of the setup

[brave halo]

I never said I was gonna use pre sync tho?

[old orchid]

that team can post sync just fine

the most important part, is paralysis not harming your team like at all

[north crown]

ah I forgot about condition nullification

why did I forget that?!?! I have him!

[brave halo]

See I don't see that happening, granted some of the 3rd option members have various ways out of conditions thankfully however they don't handle everything like attack dropping, defense buffing, or even their own para/confusion

[north crown]

stat rise and drops are literally useless, and condition nullification again

at this point, I'd suggest just trying the damn stage already.

[old orchid]

its for next week

[brave halo]

I can't till Monday

[old orchid]

with Strength 12 params and no attack params, Gladion tanks pre sync well

i dont get why you keep worrying about unnecessary problems that hold you back from having fun

[brave halo]

I wouldn't be having fun if I'm being 1 shot every time

[old orchid]

but its proven that you cant be one shot

[north crown]

Whst's the point of bringing a support if you expect to get one shot anyways...?

[old orchid]

as long as Gladion lives after the sync, other things wont matter

[tired sleet]

(After Penny’s sync, that is)

[old orchid]

yeah, if you worry about being one shot, just do pre sync

your unnecessary concerns make no sense

imma be real

[brave halo]

They all can live if I get the defense buffs high enough and their stats low enough, this is what I mean

[old orchid]

but you dont need these things to happen with right params

[zealous karma]

gladion should be tearing through sydneys Hp bar I copied it directly into poma tools and with penny and egg sylveon assuming you aren't trying to tank with an egg mon you should be fine because sydney only uses weak aoe moves
This isnt even optimal params that I am running

[brave halo]

This is what I would've had, mainly assuming I had mix red at character #3

[old orchid]

you concern about Sylveon's survivability, but at the same time you pick Tech takes x3 damage

[brave halo]

I just said that's if mix red was #3

[old orchid]

Mix Red is a terrible choice, even for a defensive approach

just go for pre sync

[north crown]

single omni +2 defenses my beloved

[old orchid]

kill everything after EX support, then you dont have to care about the non existence problem forever

[brave halo]

OK then skyla, Elaine, lodge wally

[old orchid]

[zealous karma]

what

[north crown]

what the fuck... bro just try presyncing for god sake

[manic kiln]

1/5 gladion can offtype presync, this is ontype also you pick hp8

[tardy belfry]

you sound like trin, no offense

[north crown]

oh what the fuck?!?! no wonder...

[tardy belfry]

you could be having deoxys' and still worried about psychic weak lmao

[manic kiln]

They’re competing

[tardy belfry]

no kidding

like sheesh

[zealous karma]

hey lets not do that

[north crown]

tbh, I basically see both of them as the same person.

[nova fiber]

are there any accessible budget options I might have overlooked for steel weak glacia at 3k? I had a really tough time beating her with 1/5 raihan

[north crown]

oop

[manic kiln]

Like you have so many OP pairs to clear fast and easy

[tardy belfry]

forgive me

[nova fiber]

I feel like I missed something but even with the aggravation parameter making it way easier, if I let one blizzard slip out I lost

[old orchid]

do you have strike Perrserker?

[manic kiln]

Why those options, adding unnecessary stuffs

[nova fiber]

I do have strike perrserker, but I don't have a support that could provide that much gauge for dual strike

[old orchid]

yeah Glacia is very brutal when it comes to offense, she has boosted spatk

i assume you dont have any Steel Zone setter

[manic kiln]

Dual strike is a valid option for glacia, do you have registeel

[brave halo]

I cannot, it is straight up impossible so I'm gonna play around post sync

[manic kiln]

Don’t pick hp, go full str

[nova fiber]

I have 1/5 pal marnie. I decided that a 90% flinch user would make the clear much easier in third slot

thanks to the aggravation parameter

[brave halo]

And die in 2 hits then?

[zealous karma]

It would only be 60%

[nova fiber]

yeah, I used acerola instead

maybe relying on the 60% would have gotten me an easier clear with the extra damage

[zealous karma]

Also the param doubles it so a 30% flinch with aggravation and the param is 120%

[rigid flint]

Dude you won't die in 2 hits

[nova fiber]

oh, I didn't know that, thank you! I thought it worked like aggravation 1. if I knew this i could have brought grusha as a flinch user and done much better maybe

I assumed for fang moves it would only give me the 10%

[old orchid]

with Pal Marnie, Raihan and a gauge support, they can beat Glacia pre sync with right parameters

[manic kiln]

I can literally use the same team as you at 1/5 and still presync. It’s just parameters issues, also you need to practice quadqueue, and stop using WTZ move too early or too late. It’ll significantly boost your team performance. You have OP dps, OP supports and somehow always post sync with the team close to dead when you can presync with almost full hp

[nova fiber]

which support would you recommend for gauge? I was trying falkner+acerola to brute force with double flinch, but it didn't leave me enough gauge for raihan's steel beam

[zealous karma]

Good gauge supports are like SSMorty SSBlue as the two super premium ones and ones that are more budget but good gauge supports are leaf and skyla

[nova fiber]

does the secondary effects of moves parameter affect staggering skills? I assumed it doesn't since it's a skill not an effect of the move

since leaf and skyla both have staggering on grid

[nocturne pawn]

tbh sometimes i post sync unintentionally even with pre sync params but i chock that up to bad team building

[nocturne pawn]

no

[nova fiber]

oof

[nocturne pawn]

that round effect only affects moves with the extra effects as an innate

[zealous karma]

It doesn’t but someone like eusine it does because it’s apart of the base effect

[nocturne pawn]

so volkner would have guaranteed paralysis and flinch

whereas staggering is unaffected

[nova fiber]

thank you for all of this info, I'll keep trying to find a clear 🙏

[nocturne pawn]

also its a doubling of the proc chance after considering aggravation/he/oar

[zealous karma]

If you would like to record what you’re doing we’d also be able to provide feedback etc

[manic kiln]

Sometimes i miss quadqueue and still postsync with presync parameters too but it depends on the enemies

[nova fiber]

if I keep struggling I'll try record, but my phone has some frame rate issues so I might not be able

[nocturne pawn]

i cant quad consistently and im not at the point where i can give all my supports adrenaline

but for me its like a 50/50 now

i can do max moves too

[manic kiln]

Most of the time i just reset if i fail quadqueue, their sync 1HKO with full offensive parameters

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

especially on harder regions

[zealous karma]

Simply use broken pairs like Calem to pre sync off type

** This is not real advise **

[brave halo]

Which team cause remember I called out numerous options for that third slot

[nova fiber]

I dropped raihan and found success with falkner, serena and solgaleo (using metal claw to get to sync) through sentry entry

steel weak glacia's output is just too mean at 3k. slogging through sentry entry and using too much interference was much easier than respecting her physical bulk and bringing raihan

[old orchid]

We understand that

[manic kiln]

I mean for your old clears, I haven’t seen your next week teams
Usually your teams are fine, it’s just the parameters and your execution need some improvements

[brave halo]

Image taken before all this so that egg sylveon is changed

Oh and Tina over acerola cause I wanted to be more creative

[hazy tusk]

Triplecario team

[brave halo]

And I forgot ball guy over Ssmorty too

[steel kelp]

Why tho

[nova fiber]

I hope I get to try ball guy sometime. that character seems like they'll be really rare

[steel kelp]

Variety

[brave halo]

The stop poison shenanigans from wallace

[steel kelp]

I got him from mix and refuse to touch him

[brave halo]

If you were referring to ball guy

[steel kelp]

Just kill him before then

[brave halo]

Here, got a better image set now, should've just done that, my fault

[nova fiber]

is red for the spdef drops and healing? I've not seen venusaur red off type before.

[steel kelp]

It’s a waste of red

If you were gonna do that bring Lucian

[brave halo]

He's not the focus, but he's what I call character #3 for the team which is where this all stemmed from

[brave halo]

Dark move one shot tho

[steel kelp]

[old orchid]

just bring back Sylveon and clear pre sync, very easy

[brave halo]

Except that's impossible, it will die in 2 hits

[old orchid]

this is the 12th times you got told the same advice

[nova fiber]

which stage are you trying to use the fairy team on?

[brave halo]

Sidney next week

[steel kelp]

Hey don’t come crying here if red doesn’t work

[nova fiber]

oh, planning early seems smart. I should do that more often, oops.

[brave halo]

I have many options for that team

I can change red to skyla, elaine, lodge wally, etc,

[steel kelp]

And yet you’re choosing the one that doesn’t help

[brave halo]

The whole convo was stemming from picking a good one

[old orchid]

sure but you are ignoring the best option in the name of Sylveon

[brave halo]

I said before sylveon dies in 2 hits

2 brutal swings and done

[steel kelp]

Reset

[nova fiber]

can't you reset around that?

[old orchid]

because you picked Tech takes x3 damage

[steel kelp]

Oh

No wonder

[old orchid]

yes you can reset, but the issue comes from you

[brave halo]

I said the tech x3 was made if red was the third option

[old orchid]

then just reset

[brave halo]

And then that's another 2 times dead

And obviously I wouldn't have tech x3 if I have egg sylveon, but that means nothing when it dies everytime instantly

[nova fiber]

you can probably deny a sidemon action with gladion's b-move fairly consistently.

[old orchid]

how well invested is it?

[brave halo]

Literally just 150

4 star, that's it

[old orchid]

mine is 3* and max affinity and it eats EQ at full attack and +8 strength params just fine

so really player issue

[nova fiber]

I don't think you should have any trouble with sydney with gladion. gladion thoroughly ignores all of his gimmicks

[lean lion]

Hey can y'all please teach me to read these damage numbers? Like what do the 10 five digit numbers and Raw value represent? Sorry but I haven't been able to figure it out

[nova fiber]

fairy weak sydney doesn't have any super high power moves

[old orchid]

and even then Sylveon just sets zone then die

because post EX support sync Gladion B Move just destroys everything

[nova fiber]

raw value is before being divided by enemy defense value, the 10 five digit numbers are the damage rolls you can get after defense.

[tired sleet]

The 5 digit numbers represent the actual damage value, since I inputted the stage’s defence stats and other conditions

[brave halo]

So literally don't care about zone cause it'll be gone before I can sync with gladion

[tired sleet]

And yeah, raw value is against an enemy with 1 defence (or 0 maybe)

[old orchid]

no, you dont have to sync with Gladion

again, use pre sync params, Sylveon sets zone right before Penny sync, then click B Move

[brave halo]

So you expect me to use the b move pretty much straight away?

[trail smelt]

SS Gladion?

[old orchid]

yes

to both

[trail smelt]

Just boom immediately lol

[tired sleet]

Use it after Penny syncs, after mid has -6 SpAtk

[nova fiber]

gladion probably one shots the stage right after support EX sync.

[old orchid]

its a crazy move, no need to delay it to after second sync

[brave halo]

But then the egg sylveon is dead meaning no fairy zone

[old orchid]

we have told you this multple times before, but you dont listen

[old orchid]

Sylveon sets zone right before Penny sync

[steel kelp]

They’re always stubborn

[tired sleet]

It will not be dead unless you don’t invest in its potential/affinity

[old orchid]

i literally told you above

[steel kelp]

There’s no point

[brave halo]

But the sylveon will be dead in 2 hits meaning I can't even use it before penny syncs

[nova fiber]

I think you overestimate fairy weak syndey's damage output. I personally have not had trouble against him with much weaker fairy attackers

[tired sleet]

The only AOE moves Sidney has pre sync are 2 bar moves

[old orchid]

and you have been told to reset if that happens (very unlikely)

[brave halo]

But it'll hit egg sylveon for half health every time

[old orchid]

as long as it sets zone, it can die afterwards

you are making things worse with your non sense mindset

imma be real

[nova fiber]

sydney has 4 moves he can use pre-sync. only one of them is brutal swing

[brave halo]

And he'll spam brutal swing

Meaning egg sylveon is dead every time

[nova fiber]

that's a very pessimistic mindset

I think you're hurting your own teambuilding by expecting the worst outcome every time

[old orchid]

[nova fiber]

there is no penalty to resetting a run in pokemon masters

playing around a few things going your way is not irrational

[lean lion]

Thanks Winston!

[old orchid]

there is no penalty to listen to good advice, either

[nova fiber]

I pre-synced him with BP valerie first week of hoenn stadium being back

you'll do more than fine with gladion

you could probably do it with 2 units if you really wanted

[brave halo]

Again gladion isn't the problem, it's egg sylveon in this scenario

[lean lion]

No i dont have Gladion and I was still getting the type medal for Hoenn Week 1

[old orchid]

no, its your mindset

[lean lion]

But i know i can presync 3k with either Pal Serena or Bp Valerie

[brave halo]

The egg sylveon literally will be dead before I can do anything with it that'll actually benefit gladion

[old orchid]

we have offered many solutions

[nova fiber]

egg sylveon dying isn't too much of a liability. as long as fairy zone is active after the first round of actions it can be up in time for support sync

[old orchid]

that are much better than yours

[brave halo]

The only solution you keep saying is use sylveon when it dies in two hits

[nova fiber]

assuming it does die to 2 brutal swings, looking at the movesets on pomatools, it's a 1/4 for sydney to brutal swing, a 1/3 for hydreigon to brutal swing

[lean lion]

Since when does Brutal Swing do enough damage to 2 shot?

[nova fiber]

assuming all applicable actions are the same odds, it's not likely for you to get hit by brutal swing twice pre sync.

[brave halo]

Since 3k decided to be a thing

[nova fiber]

I don't think you're genuinely at any risk of losing the stage even if egg sylveon faints, though.

[crystal notch]

No way Brutal Swing 2 shots

[lean lion]

Exactly

[brave halo]

But then what's the point of fairy zone when it won't impact the b move of gladion tho?

[old orchid]

if it can live one BS, just set zone

except it does?

its a straight up 50% boost

[brave halo]

But it's gone before it happens

[old orchid]

Sylveon sets zone right before Penny sync

just reset when Sylveon dies before setting zone (5)

[brave halo]

But I cannot get to it in time when it's dead in 2 hits

[nova fiber]

it's like, a 9% chance to get hit by 2 brutal swings before the third round of actions. you've gotta be baiting at this point, man.

[old orchid]

cant believe i repeat the same advice 5 times

[steel kelp]

They’re not baiting

I know how stubborn they are

People have given them advice multiple times for another game and they refused to listen

[old orchid]

we helper and everyone here try to offer the best advice possible, but stubbornness always drives people insane

if you straight up ignore everyone's advice, please leave this chat. no point of staying here if you keep doing that

[brave halo]

I have listened to advice, others said other characters like skyla and she is one of the multiple options I have recently found for this stage

Egg sylveon is just not one of them

[old orchid]

who are the others here? no one here recommended Skyla and other options at all

[brave halo]

It was suggested much earlier, but I have listed the other options before

[nova fiber]

zone is zone. bigger multiplier than penny's rebuff. if you really want to, you could swap out penny for a flinch support to guarantee that egg sylveon stays alive.

but I don't think egg sylveon will have trouble

[brave halo]

I listed skyla, elaine, lodge wally, mix red, easter burgh, I'm blanking on others but look at the amount there