SS Morty
#Champion Stadium
rotund lagoon
verbal karma
I don't have SS Morty
rotund lagoon
But also……….I told you SS Brendan needs the max crit gridded. We’re not going anywhere if you keep backlashing what we say.
steel kelp
Didn’t you say you were gonna listen to advice
silver dirge
If Brendan handles crit that's a non-issue. The brunt of the damage lies post EX sync anyway.
It's absolutely pointless for you to ask advice here if you're going to disregard all of it. Do as you please, but don't waste or undermine people's timeless efforts
verbal karma
...okay, can I please at least explain why I think Brendan's crit handling is too slow in my eyes? or am I not even allowed to do that anymore?
silver dirge
...okay, can I please at least **explain** why I think Brendan's crit handling i...
Alright, I'm listening - on the condition you'll also accept & try to understand any feedback we give you
verbal karma
hmm...okay, so: Team Sharp Entry gives +1 Crit at the beginning
so in the first trio, SS Brendan would do his TM to raise the crit to +2
problem is: I'd have to wait until SS Brendan does his sync in order to raise the crit to a total of +3 by getting his Team Sharp Entry to proc a second time
and I need +3 crit way before SS Brendan does his sync
you get what I mean?
rotund lagoon
If I may add
Support sync is when the damage dealer does so much more damage. Having the DPS crit at 80% for a little bit isn’t that bad until SS Brendan syncs, letting the Crit be maxed at 3. It is unfortunate for his kit to be like that, but he is still a good option, and he still will max Crit early enough to start blasting when the double sync buff hits in.
verbal karma
hmm...if I may also add, I did come up with a new idea of my own: before Burgh does his own sync, his Bug Buzz would be equally distributed between mid and right
the idea would be that Burgh's sync should be enough to kill mid even when I send less Bug Buzzes at the mid, which would then lead to the right side being much more weakened, which would allow me to take it down before Double Edge becomes too much of a problem (and the left would just be taken down the same way as before)
of course, I'll need RNG to cooperate with me to know if that idea of mine actually works or not
rotund lagoon
You could try using DPS on the sides a bit before support sync, that’s not the worst idea
silver dirge
That is indeed a good idea
silver dirge
If I may add
Support sync is when the damage dealer does **so much** more damage...
This is very well explained though for future reference, take note of it. Damage done before your sync, without those sync buffs, is quite inconsequential to the overall battle
austere oyster
Is Whitney/Miltank a passable budget flincher for taking down Glacia? She has Aggravation and Ice Guard in her grid and I don’t really have any other options at a good enough move level to get that extra chance. I have Acerola but she happens to be weak to the exact type I’ll be dealing with. 🤦♂️
silver dirge
For the purpose of flinch, yeah, she's fine. If your other 2 can take down the stage in the meantime
Winona is another option, she also has Aggravation on grid
austere oyster
It will probably be Solgaleo and a support as my other two. I might try KGrimsley but I only have him at 1/5.
rotund lagoon
Problem with Glacia is she has Sentry Entry 
Meaning you should use a special damage dealer.
And sadly…Steel is not exactly accessible in that department.
silver dirge
Is your Solgaleo powerboosted? With the right params you can brute force it, but ideally you would want a defense debuffer like Colress instead of your flinch slot
austere oyster
Is your Solgaleo powerboosted? With the right params you can brute force it, but...
Nope. Just started this year so the only power boost I have is Palkia. I don’t have Colress either…
austere oyster
I probably just need to be patient and focus on building my roster. The difficulty spike after story mode was absolutely brutal. It’s kind of disappointing because I bet Leon/Charizard would handle Steven pretty well. Just can’t reach him because I don’t have any real roster depth and diversity yet.
silver dirge
Yeah, you can probably handle lower points up to around 2.5k
It's just some CS stages are quite tough with their gimmicks, 
Glacia is one of them considering accessible steel isn't great
rotund lagoon
There is no pressure to go high points tho, you can lower them if need be.
austere oyster
There is no pressure to go high points tho, you can lower them if need be.
I can’t even access the point system yet. I have to clear base Hard mode once before it will even let me. I can pick off maybe one or two a week but I haven’t cracked all 5 yet.
rotund lagoon
Oh gotcha! I’m not worried about Hard mode for you tbh, as long as you can grasp teambuilding and gameplay.
austere oyster
Yeah, I can get really close on several of them. Like Guzma almost handled Sidney for me but couldn’t finish Shiftry and I don’t have any other physical bugs built yet…
rotund lagoon
Sidney does not need physical bug specifically. And it never hurts to off type as well.
If you’re doing the medal, all the more reason to use more types.
verbal karma
Finally won
silver dirge
Congrats, what ended up being the team in the end?
verbal karma
...err...is this a good team against Steven?
asking because Iron Head instakills Bertha
rotund lagoon
...err...is this a good team against Steven?
You need a proper Support for Naomi
I’m afraid Courtney will have to be removed.
silver dirge
Unfortunately Naomi can only afford both sand & ground zone if you've got a sand 'support' pair like Ingo or Paulo
verbal karma
Congrats, what ended up being the team in the end?
still SS Brendan, Bulurola and Burgh because Sidney actually stopped using Seed Bomb...the copious amounts of resets instead came from AoE spam...
silver dirge
Ah
verbal karma
I’m afraid Courtney will have to be removed.
Damn, I actually saw that specific team suggested to me multiple times
This is the second time I am trying it out, once again with no luck
rotund lagoon
Damn, I actually saw that specific team suggested to me multiple times
Wait who said that?
verbal karma
I don't remember anymore
rotund lagoon
I doubt it was one of us. Naomi’s setup by herself is super slow.
verbal karma
The idea was to use Bertha as a pseudo-support
silver dirge
It can work, but Naomi just lacks a lil bit in the setup department.
Nope, wrong one sorry
verbal karma
Well, right now, I am trying to figure out how to make Bertha more survivable
rotund lagoon
Uhhh, by using a proper Support/tank
void stream
Uhhh, by using a proper Support/tank
I am completly lost without the successful teams tab for copying the 3k Parameters haha
rotund lagoon
You used that for that purpose…? The point is to learn teambuilding yourself.
That Successful Teams feature is not as helpful as one would think.
And 3k parameters are heavily team dependent as well.
But also, if you are new-ish, you don’t need to do 3k
Nor does anyone, really
verbal karma
...okay, maybe picking NC Rosa as the support was a bad idea...
austere oyster
Picked off Phoebe with Poke Kid, Melony, and Skyla. Might just leave it alone for the week at this point. I don’t have enough terrain setters to counter Sidney’s Dark Wish and I don’t have any team that can handle Glacia’s massive torrent of Blizzards.
verbal karma
I might need to replace NC Rosa...but with whom?
grand trout
You know how those bp master fairs have a type passive
I used 3 ground pairs with nita and ingo took less damage than usual from steven
Didn't give enough stats to take him down but still, i never realized those bonuses mattered significantly lol
austere oyster
Didn't give enough stats to take him down but still, i never realized those bonu...
Yeah, isn’t it something like 20% base damage reduction and then another 3% for each other matching type you have on the team?
verbal karma
...ugh...I hate it how Steven has TWO attacks that can just...insta-kill NC Rosa
I thought the Hoenn champ was supposed to be easy, why am I still struggling?
silver dirge
We told you to choose a support that helps Naomi buff her stats quicker
Rosa doesn't do that incredibly well but she can work
verbal karma
oh...I thought NC Rosa was fast at buffing...
...who should I pick instead then?
Actually, lemme filter out the selection better
silver dirge
You could switch to a support like Leaf, she'll finish off Naomi's buffs.
If you want you can also keep Rosa and do some sing denials, have Naomi operate at +4. But for consistency with that you're going to want Troublemaker on her
verbal karma
...wait, how is Leaf faster at buffing than NC Rosa?
silver dirge
Well, what stat does Naomi need buffed?
verbal karma
Sp. Atk and Crit...and NC Rosa is guaranteed to handle Crit, at least
while buffing Sp. Atk is not guaranteed, she DOES give me SMUN, at least
silver dirge
okay, that's good. Leaf has guaranteed SpA buffs on her sync, and also has Ramped Up on her expanded grid, so she's faster at buffing for that reason
verbal karma
hmm...would Leaf be better at tanking Hammer Arm and Iron Head? since that's my biggest problem right now
halcyon sail
Not hammer arm that's for sure
verbal karma
oof
silver dirge
Rosa's the better tank, and also buffs her defenses quicker than Leaf
verbal karma
...oh god
Rosa's the better tank and she STILL instantly dies to both Iron Head and Hammer Arm
that doesn't sound good
halcyon sail
If anyone is bringing that team down, it's Naomi
silver dirge
So you have two options
- Sing denials with Rosa, and use her SMUNs to ramp up Naomi's damage. Keep in mind denials will be inconsistent without troublemaker
- Go for the spA buffs with Leaf, she does also have staggering on grid for denial. But she doesn't provide SMUNs and also won't take hits as well as Rosa does
crystal notch
can SC Zinnia 3/5 ex nuke steven?
because if the answer is yes, I'm bringing ssteoxys to glacia
silver dirge
Don't see why not
silver dirge
Some of them are indeed bulky
silver dirge
Phoebe has the highest base HP of any CS stage
As in, she shares that position with several others
crystal notch
no wonder
verbal karma
So you have two options
- Sing denials with Rosa, and use her SMUNs to ramp up ...
hmm...is there no option that does not involve denials?
silver dirge
Poison stall 
Or luck of the draw RNG so you're not hit too hard
crystal notch
bad idea to bring irida to glacia right
crystal notch
current idea is ssteoxys to glacia, ss silver to sidney (because on type is either lusamine or 4* beedrill bugsy and I've spent sc steven on phoebe)
and sc zinnia to champ steven
ughhh I need more offtype options
rain turret
I wonder if I can offtype glacia with karen
crystal notch
Do you want to be annihilated by an ice zone boosted blizzard
obviously not 
I'm slotting ss morty with palkia to clean up drake
versed meteor
Decided to open up cs and yeh i aint doing this shit today
mellow linden
Regarding Courtney + Bertha + Naomi team, I know that team worked back on 2.5k, but I personally haven’t done any testing for 3k
It probably still works, but YMMV
north crown
How the hell does that work? At that point, I'd just grab a utility unit to help Courtney.
manic kiln
just ditch naomi for a physical support
she doesn't have ex so using bertha as nuke is better, and courtney can take care of the sides, with trap + rock field they're not a problem
mellow linden
just ditch naomi for a physical support
Yeah, that’s probably a better team setup
I was just mentioning an anecdote from the 2.5k days
daring osprey
left storm
Freebies (and eggmons) op
You know it's a fucked up week with luck when the perrserker solo DPS run goes smoother the elesa one
brave halo
Just real quick, are there any other supports I'm blanking on who could stop the Para from Sidney next week? Can't use nc blue cause he's in another team and idk if I'll get penny to ex soon yet, just shoot ideas real quick
manic kiln
gladion will wipe the stage before they can even use paralyze
also don't need 2 supports
use egg sylveon or a 2nd dps
brave halo
I was honestly gonna grab kali just to give her some time in the spotlight
But opted for sycamore cause that Para seems like an issue
That and my egg sylv seems like it'd die in one hit
Oh wait Katherine I'm sorry
manic kiln
gladion will clear the stage with his bmove, without zone, with zone it'll be over before they can even do anything to your team, unless you use some weird parameters
4* egg is enough for CS when people even cleared with lv1 units 
brave halo
Will the idea change when I say I don't have a lucky skill on it?
manic kiln
doesn't matter, but at this point you should have a lucky skill, LG is still on go farm some cookies
brave halo
Wait I just realized, how am I supposed to drop the spatk with this team? Like the b move asks for more power based on dropped spatk
sharp willow
gladion drops enemy special attack by 2 with his regular move
sharp willow
"Lowers the target’s Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks when the user successfully attacks with Fleur Cannon."
manic kiln
bring him to a stage and see for yourself 
brave halo
Oh wait I misread somehow, my head ain't here atm
OK then, the whole squad being set up then
I just realized I did the near exact same team for rock like last time, uhh, kinda want to change but keep diantha and paulo
mellow linden
Unless you have a major favorite Support who'd meaningfully contribute to the team there's not much of a point in any changes, IMO
brave halo
Wanted to keep it interesting since I used the team near note for note two weeks ago, so far I have my eyes set for either tina or skyla for speed raising
Nita too forgot about her
rain turret
can I offtype glacia with karen? I want to save NC red for sidney
left storm
Karen offtype 3k sounds harsh
rain turret
I dont have a steel special attacker
rain turret
Im trying with rose copperajah, but I might swap for solgaleo
sharp willow
its difficult to make universal presets for 3k, making small additions to 2.5k presets depending on what your team looks like is what is suggested
next sparrow
oh ok, got it, thanks
wide adder
I need 200 more points for gladion sylveon +1
But idk what to pick
Using impervious tank
So taking the stat down for free -3 spatk spdef on enemy glacia
Anyone have any ideas?
swift swan
Does gladion's passive work that way?
I thought it only applies if the enemy attempts to lower your stats, not round params
But idk, could be wrong
sharp willow
i believe it counts the parameter as the enemy inflicting the debuff
but at the very least hes immune to it
swift swan
Either way stat down -3 is a good param to pick for him, yea
sharp willow
you could try Ally HP Down since youre probably going to be clearing fast, but itll probably need resetting for a not-AOE move to start with (probably an item)
trail smelt
Oh my god
I need to test that out for Gladion LMAO
Would be absolutely hilarious if it does work that way
wide adder
I thought it only applies if the enemy attempts to lower your stats, not round p...
Applies to mid
I saw it tested in #916852044692856834 last night
sharp willow
otherwise you could take the Attack Up 5 and something like sync cooldown -1, especially if you have him with his Sprint Role
wide adder
I do have his sprint exr but I don’t think I have a tank with both impervious and accel for if I fail to quad queue
Have cs2 on him rn
sharp willow
its worth a shot either way
best case scenario you dont even need to use a second sync, worst case you just have to switch out that parameter for a 100 point one
sharp willow
i can imagine
wide adder
Cleared with -1 sync thanks
sharp willow
nice
wide adder
Really fun unit
wide adder
Done my cs week. I’m prob gonna be offtyping at least one stage with gladion for a few weeks to get more use of him
sharp willow
i respect that
tulip python
How is Glacia still Tanky even with flinch spamming rose, and Jirachi nuke
sharp willow
what parameters are you using for the fight
lean lion
Glacia has one of the lowest base hp possible right? 17 something k
sharp willow
okay i see you taking HP and Defense boosting parameters
those are definitely making your life harder than it needs to be,
furthermore, the 50 point Physical / Special damage reduction passives are very easy to take since they are ignored by critical hits
lean lion
Max hp 6 and 8 oof
sharp willow
what i would recommend is dropping the HP parameters in favor of allowing her to hit harder, since what youre using is already making it hard for you to live past the first sync, and making your life significantly harder to kill her in the process
tulip python
Hmm, worth a shot
low linden
Stacking strength and hp really isn't a good idea
lean lion
If you're dying to sync anyway might as well make them hit harder and reset for good move RNG
sharp willow
something like this would be what i would recommend. Everything that has the checkmark next to it is what i would take
tulip python
Cool, imma try this
sharp willow
lmk how it goes
sharp willow
nice one
old orchid
Unlike 2.5k, stacking bulk params is mostly a punishment in harder regions
Unless your tank is solid, ofc
scenic pike
i cant even beat sidney at 2.5k pts
what the fuck is this bullshit CS
why is ss hilbert so shit hes not even an old unit
old orchid
i can already see the issue from team building part. SS Hilbert wants to be paired with another Bug dmg dealer to take full advantage of -1 Bug rebuff
scenic pike
i dont have any other good bug dealers
old orchid
do you have 3/5 Burgh? he is solid at that move level and is the best accessible Bug type
or Lusamine
old orchid
then they are not shit at all
scenic pike
but burgh does no damage and also sucks at buffing
old orchid
is your SS Hilbert at 3/5?
old orchid
you stacked too many HP params on a 1/5 unit without their optimal teammates
scenic pike
i only have HP 6
old orchid
lucky skill doesnt matter but CS2 on both dmg dealers and Vigilance on Leaf help
check the pins for pre sync parameters, sync with Leaf first and Burgh second. make sure Sidney has -1 Bug rebuff and -6 spdef by the time Burgh uses sync move
scenic pike
ok
old orchid
use Burgh's TM and X Spatk once for max offensive stats, let the rest to Leaf
old orchid
making new preset doesnt cost orbs
scenic pike
i dont have grid on leaf
ill just try without it, cuz i dont want to run out of sync orbs later nd i need them
old orchid
then replace Leaf with another offensive support
Leaf is awkward without grid, and its totally worthy investment
how many sync orbs do you have?
old orchid
200k is too many lol
scenic pike
20k i mean
old orchid
a full grid just needs 7k5 orbs
scenic pike
20 000
old orchid
well its still not low
swift swan
you don't need to be a whale to get sync orbs
you'll accumulate plenty in time
I understand you're trying to avoid gridding units you don't use often but Leaf is one of those pairs who definitely want to be gridded
either you grid her or you use a different support
scenic pike
i like to only grid my limited units.
old orchid
as long as you get sync orbs from every source monthly + setup expedition teams in #1012298913279127582, you dont have to worry much about gridding pairs unless you get 10 pairs at once
old orchid
i like to only grid my limited units.
thats not a healthy mindset, like at all
scenic pike
ew, fuck lodge i dont do that
swift swan
i like to only grid my limited units.
that's a waste of potential for non-limiteds
scenic pike
most non limiteds are shit anyway
they keep the good units for the whales 🤣
but k, i will grid leaf
swift swan
most non limiteds are shit anyway
i don't know where you got this idea
old orchid
thats not true at all
swift swan
most non limiteds are shit anyway
not in this game, they're not
scenic pike
🤷♂️ agree to disagree then
scenic pike
like i said we agree to disagree
silver dirge
scenic pike
arch is always watching 😢 sry im not trying to be rude, but i can have my own opinion right?
swift swan
you're not rude for disagreeing, we're just trying to tell you it's a waste to dismiss and overlook the potential of non-limited units and thinking you need limiteds to clear CS
silver dirge
No need to be - as long as you're being cooperative, civil, and onboarding the advice you're given, we're all good
silver dirge
I saw your initial message without the screenshot first, had me worried there for a second 
old orchid
Trout jumpscare
lean lion
Haha
toxic cobalt
Terrible free units, never use em
toxic cobalt
Free units are completely useless, I agree
WHY ARE YOU RUNNING BLAINE WITH CYRUS
grave wyvern
Chad move tbh
toxic cobalt
Surely there is a better option 
sharp willow
I dont really think there is
toxic cobalt
Are you all not disabling acute senses with gradual healing?
silver dirge
We are, I hope 
sharp willow
You can probably brute force your way through it if you wanted to badly enough, I dont think you really had any significantly better option than Blaine for replacing it though
lean lion
Run was easy enough anyway, Cyrus doesn't really need much support. I'd bring a dragon zone setter if I had one.
silver dirge
Drake doesn't have any DR while rain is up, but you'd have a really tough time surviving those hits with rain up depending on your tank
silver dirge
And yeah the other options are what - Acerola 
& Winona? The latter doesn't work here
sharp willow
Acerola, Candice, Bertha if they have em
lean lion
I'm personally focused more on the two 4* bug DPSes
They did really well, got it in a few retries
sharp willow
Nothing particularly helpful outside of minor amounts of chip damage
silver dirge
They did really well, got it in a few retries
Hats off to you for making them work on 3K CS too, it's not an easy feat especially considering you've only recently started
grave wyvern
lean lion
Nothing particularly helpful outside of minor amounts of chip damage
Didn't have interference immunity on so Blaine did some damage with trap
sharp willow
Yeah, that would do the trick about as well
silver dirge
I'll do a shameless plug on your behalf 
go follow #1208860837947899965 to see Trout's incredible progress 
sharp willow
You're doing really well mate
lean lion
That's cause I have the best teachers haha!
scenic pike
its not working.
leaf dies in 2 hits
ss hilbert doesnt do enough damage
burgh sits there and does fuck all
scenic pike
Free units are completely useless, I agree
dk how u have the patience for this.
or spend that much time learning the params by heart nd everything they do
idk how ppl just... know what to do
lean lion
Took like 4-5 retries
scenic pike
i cant do that shit
lean lion
And params I learned just by doing CS every week
Just give them as little hp as possible. I got this advice last week from Nov here. Hoenn is difficult to post sync so might as well make them hit harder and try to kill mid as fast as possible.
steel kelp
Why are hilbert and burgh on the same team
scenic pike
ye u must hav a lot of time on ur hands, i got better things to do than spend hrs on this stupid cs, they made hoenn too hard. dont have a special steel type? ur fucked. dont have a good bug type? fucked
steel kelp
scenic pike
Why are hilbert and burgh on the same team
i was literally told to do that ☠️
steel kelp
You literally have SS hilbert
steel kelp
Who told you that
silver dirge
Um...idk what to say anymore
Nothing, you ignore it. Not your job to put up with that at all
silver dirge
ye u must hav a lot of time on ur hands, i got better things to do than spend hr...
Take it down several notches, this is not #salt-channel
Are you here to get help or just want to have a rant session?
scenic pike
then he pairs nicely with Burgh's sync nuke
@steel kelp
scenic pike
Take it down several notches, this is not <#762133212247883847>
sry
silver dirge
I hope you understand that those outbursts towards others who are trying to help you are completely unacceptable.
scenic pike
k
silver dirge
Right, now if you want productive help, you do the following:
- Send your in-game parameters & team
- Explain exactly what the issue is in your clear - are you not doing enough damage? Is your tank dying too fast? That way the helpers can diagnose and suggest changes accordingly.
And I'm reiterating once more, remain civil & cooperative with those taking out their time to help you.
scenic pike
i will
i sent my parameters above
leaf dies too quickly, if i get lucky then hilbert doesnt do enough damage nd they wipe out every1 with the sync
silver dirge
These are the parameters you're using?
scenic pike
yes
silver dirge
Gakon asked you to take a look at the preset in the pins - you're picking up too much, and unnecessary, HP
Take both Power on Hit nodes
Can't change weather, terrain & zone - is that on or off?
scenic pike
I dont have it picked up
silver dirge
Well are you making use of weather, terrain or zone?
scenic pike
im not
silver dirge
So pick up that parameter, free 150 pts
silver dirge
Drop all of the HP
scenic pike
thats too much pts lost
silver dirge
Make up the difference with Strength instead
rain turret
Cleared with -1 sync thanks
what were your parameters and what is your gladion's move level and grid?
rain turret
finally done glacia fuck her
undone ether
the blizzards really really hurt
rain turret
I had to do lots of tries, but got a good rng and there were almost no blizzards used
pseudo drum
Dunno why but just ain't dealing enough damage
silver dirge
Dunno why but just ain't dealing enough damage
What move level is SS Morty?
silver dirge
No, just asking for teambuilding reference
pseudo drum
O
steel kelp
Why SS roxie
silver dirge
Do you have TM MPR gridded?
pseudo drum
For spd debuff
silver dirge
Otherwise you're operating at +2 crit in 3 turns
pseudo drum
Otherwise you're operating at +2 crit in 3 turns
That's the problem
Should I grid it in burgh
silver dirge
You don't have Critical Eye on Burgh?
Definitely grid that
Can you send your parameters?
dark osprey
i guess ss morty does help with some of the crit. maybe slower but yeah critical eye is necessary
honestly no harm in sleep cheese as well
silver dirge
Yeah Crit Eye on Burgh slipped my mind
If Roxie is lowering spDef I assume you've used her max move for status, are you quadqueuing with that? Otherwise you screw CD and can't get 2 syncs in
dark osprey
just have to use that otherwise unecessary TM makes it a bit weird
lucian may be a decent choice to survive the sync as well worst case
pseudo drum
Yep can't get 2 syncs
Morty dies via repeated seed bombs anyway (my luck is not favouring me 😅) and the snarls are also annoying.
Lucian also has survival issues because of the snarls and brutal swings
Snarl also decreases spa
Annoying
silver dirge
Queue Roxie's max move as the very first thing in the battle, click on two moves with Morty & Burgh. Right after the max move executes you want to spam tap to quadqueue a move with Roxie
pseudo drum
K
silver dirge
Make sure you get 3 moves in the action order before they queue something
Otherwise reset
dark osprey
thing is that Roxie wouldn't be doing much damage anyways if ontyping parameters. could slot in Lucian if he's available. at least easier on gauge and better for survivability on the seed bombs
silver dirge
Agree
Roxie offtype might be stronger than ontype Burgh tbh, seems like wasted potential
pseudo drum
Ok
My luck is a little down it seems
rain turret
I have groudon camerupt for steven, but wtf is that metagross that keeps buffing his defenses?
undone ether
just need Crit for that one.
rain turret
I tried the landorus girl for the final member, but she dies too fast
old orchid
Ok
My luck is a little down it seems
what params are you using?
undone ether
for my run, i went with Cynthia + Bertha
old orchid
I tried the landorus girl for the final member, but she dies too fast
you dont have to build monotype teams, any physical tank should work fine
and crit bypasses debuffs so dont worry about that
rain turret
already used hop and nc rosa
mellow linden
yes they are.. look at the tierlist
Apologies for ping, but this is information that will greatly help you going forward.
The tier list is not an outright “these pairs are good and these pairs are bad.” I’ve had multiple instances of Sync Pairs from the lowest tier pulling their fair share of weight with the only high-tier pair being a Support who covered the necessary buffs like a 3/5+ Hilbert
steel kelp
looking at tierlists as the be all end all 
scenic pike
Apologies for ping, but this is information that will greatly help you going for...
i want to reply cuz i dont rly agree, but i dont want to argue cuz i lose control sometimes and take it too far. mods always watching yk 😂 so yeah, i will accept what u said
lean lion
Only so many times you can bang your head against a wall, Cobalt.
steel kelp
They never learn
dusty crater
if all else fails @scenic pike I believe every week, someone on youtube does F2P clears for Champion stadium each week. I believe Aurochs has his own thread on it too. #1011675077764456519
sick inlet
i want to reply cuz i dont rly agree, but i dont want to argue cuz i lose contro...
That doesn't make sense. You're treating the tier list as a fact, as if the game ranked them like that and stated it's the best there is.
In reality it's an opinion - like how you liked to state your "opinion"
In these "tier lists" the units are usually measured based on their individual capabilities.
So you claiming a single unit is shit because it's low on the tier list says 2 things; either you have no real knowledge of the game or you haven't tried to use it in a team. Nearly all units (especially those with grids) are usable especially for CSMM.
Kind of a plug but a prime example is #1011675077764456519 shows you how COMPLETELY FREE UNITS beat 15k CSMM every week. Look at the units they're using and they're going to be on the bottom side of the tier list.
For you to argue and display that kind of displeasure says you're so knowledgeable about the game, but you're "too important" and "busy", having no time to invest in learning. But in everything in life, not just Poma you need to have a learning mindset or just accept that you're incapable of improving.
dusty crater
speaking of which:
old orchid
Aurochs getting 2 free advertisements 
trail smelt
lol
scenic pike
see now some of that makes me mad and i want to argue nd call out some ppl. it is my opinion, i dont appreciate every1 forcing theirs on to me. i said already lets agree to disagree but every1 keeps coming at me for no reason. i want to yell and make "funny" comments too but i cant cuz mods show up, hell, arch or tai is probably watching as we speak 🤣 i think for now its better if i shut up
silver dirge
rain turret
would courtney maxie skyla be enough for steven?
scenic pike
lol see
apparently i cant have an opinion 😆
im leaving this channel btw arch, dw. sry
silver dirge
That is fine, you can keep your opinion but take it out of the help channels - this is an objective & productive help area and as such people will present the correct advice, regardless of whether or not you agree. If you cannot converse in a civil & respectful manner here, then by all means, simply do not interact. We won't tolerate disruptive or disrespectful behaviour, especially not towards our amazing volunteers.
Also a general request for everyone to kindly move on from the topic to avoid further escalation; great advice all around but it unfortunately does not seem to be leading anywhere productive. 
silver dirge
would courtney maxie skyla be enough for steven?
It should work pretty smooth, yeah, but you may want to replace Skyla with a more dedicated physical support to buff Courtney & Maxie
silver dirge
As always, send the team, parameters, and outline the exact issue
dusty crater
@verbal karma what teams are you working with, also i do agree with him being difficult too. Had trouble myself with good units even
verbal karma
As always, send the team, parameters, and outline the exact issue
NC Rosa just...dies too fast
dusty crater
honestly... i would switch status immunity to interference immunity.
or even def/spedef up 1
wicked junco
Why would you carry NCRosa and have Status Inmunity?
verbal karma
NC Rosa isn't here to put Pokémon to sleep
wicked junco
Sure, but it extends her life span by a lot
They waste time doing TMs, while you get your syncs faster
dusty crater
denying your opponents the chance to do attacks allow you to do more sync moves
overall, it's a very beneficial strat.
wicked junco
Best scenario she would only had to eat the sync move
It's even more useful if you have her Rolex
dusty crater
I will let you know this too. this looks intimidating, but keep in mind. (Crits bypass defense buffs)
grand steppe
who was syncing on that team
If Bertha; She's lacking consistent offensive buffs.
If Naomi; well still have to deal with sides with a single dps
wicked junco
Sides without the center would be easy to manage with that team with Sleep tho
lean lion
In this case would switching out some atk or str for hp be viable? Since Rosa is having a hard time taking hits. But it depends on how tanky they're finding the enemy on current params. Might not work if they already seem too tanky.
wicked junco
I think teams that have turn denial heavily benefit more from atk buffs than from HP/Str, you just wanna get rid of the middle before it syncs
left storm
NC Rosa isn't here to put Pokémon to sleep
She should
Every turn you put someone to sleep is +2 moves in your favour
That's 6 moves in a sync cycle
- you don't have to deal with incoming damage
Sleeping is the prime method to cheesing csmm, so much that even eggmons can carry with it
silver dirge
Another reason I'm going to be so appreciative of the LS update. Being able to switch between HS1 & TM1 on Rosa
Or Adr1 but I've slowly learnt the qq timing I feel
paper summit
Another reason I'm going to be so appreciative of the LS update. Being able to s...
you know, you saying that made me realize I use Sing so rarely I should just throw TM1 away
low linden
Just throw everything onto her after the update and don't think
silent plinth
We are gonna need so many more guaranteed cookies if i’m gonna start running HS1 on everyone and switching off
paper summit
go suffer in Gauntlet
silent plinth
No :)
silver dirge
Can they add better cookie rewards to BR for completion 
That way we never have to do gauntlet again beyond 10
silent plinth
Ah yes, cause I need more things to spend my battle rally points on (I do need more things to spend my battle rally points on)
I have over 10k just sitting there after getting vouchers and powerups
left storm
Yeah I got 120 deluxes saved up
silver dirge
Ah yes, cause I need more things to spend my battle rally points on (I do need m...
Just make them point-less 
you get n deluxe cookies for Area N just by completing it
paper summit
imagine guaranteed cookies on a shop, that'd be nice 
verbal karma
Every turn you put someone to sleep is +2 moves in your favour
Too bad her sleep is too inconsistent to be actually useful...
low linden
With TM1 it is kinda
old orchid
imagine guaranteed cookies on a shop, that'd be nice <:Hopium:875906112963117056...
Revenge Boost guaranteed cookie available now
rain turret
is there a specific gauntlet legendary that gives a certain cookie? cuz with so many strikers, I need more of the cookie that gives crit strike 2
paper summit
no, cookies are completely random
left storm
Too bad her sleep is too inconsistent to be actually useful...
Except sleep is extremely consistent in first turns
You don't need to chain mid
You just need extra turns at start
Example:
verbal karma
Except sleep is extremely consistent in first turns
Except it isn't
I am talking from experience
left storm
low linden
It actually is if the opponent always uses a move that isn't TM
left storm
It really isn't
verbal karma
But that's even more resets
verbal karma
I am trying to reduce the amount of resets, not increase them
onyx ice
Personally I always play with sync -2 and -1
left storm
With sleep you should barely reset period as with minimum skill the stage will never get to sync
verbal karma
That's if the sleep activates in the first place
left storm
Bro
verbal karma
Which already isn't a guarantee
left storm
Is your Rosa without troublemaker
low linden
Are u using NC rosa without TM1
left storm
verbal karma
Is your Rosa without troublemaker
Yup
low linden
Ah yes I'm out
onyx ice
Me too but I don't use her for sleep
low linden
If u are using NC rosa purely for her MUN rotations your partners better be able to self buff quickly
grand steppe
well from what I understand, Trin was busy buffing, so they're relying on the 15% chance from B move. though it was being disabled by status immunity parameter anyway
onyx ice
Yes generally I use her for the mun rotations, and potentially rebuff/crit
grand steppe
god I wish players could just share replays in-game
low linden
Yes generally I use her for the mun rotations, and potentially rebuff/crit
There better be 2 dps or someone with a big bp move
Else sing Rosa is generally better for turn steals
onyx ice
I guess lucky skill presets will fix those akward situations
low linden
Tho tbf Rosa is quite bulky too so I guess it's kinda dummy proof
low linden
I guess lucky skill presets will fix those akward situations
Yeah Rosa appreciates too many lucky skill
left storm
I used her in both ways, but sing was miles better for harder content so I just kept her with TM1
onyx ice
Tho tbf Rosa is quite bulky too so I guess it's kinda dummy proof
Since she's a good tank that can provide infinite mun in longer stages, I definitely want vigilance on her
low linden
She takes vigilance, TM1, HS1, adrenaline 1
onyx ice
I used her in both ways, but sing was miles better for harder content so I just ...
Harder content generally has resilience
left storm
Yes
But harder content makes gaining turns way more valuable
Especially because it's hard
onyx ice
Yes but for sleep lock there are already lots of units
But having the ability to choose between various lucky skills would be pretty good
Kinda like the sync grids
old orchid
Who would bring Ramos to Thorton UB to buy time instead of NC Rosa tho
onyx ice
I remember when you had only 1 sync grid and you had to spend coins to change it (ok coins are pretty abundant, but was pretty annoying)
Not taxing like lucky skills but definitely you didn't wanted to change your grid after every battle
low linden
I think there are a few sync pairs like Brendan that gets buffed
He don't have to choose to be a sync nuke or dps anymore can just be both anytime
left storm
Yes but for sleep lock there are already lots of units
Sleep locking is not really what I use her for
onyx ice
Brendan, Silver and zinnia definitely like to have Access to different lucky skills
Deoxys won't need 4/5 to get access to vigilance for defense form
verbal karma
Yes generally I use her for the mun rotations, and potentially rebuff/crit
yeah, that's what I use NC Rosa for as well
crit + buffs + mun
also helps that she's EX'd and has EX Role
But yeah, I might need to replace NC Rosa with someone else
I just don't know with whom
The support absolutely NEEDS to be able to specifically tank the Iron Head and Hammer Arm
Not prevent it, but TANK it
Because I won't be able to prevent it...at least not consistently enough
manic kiln
idk why you still use Naomi just nuke with bertha, use courtney for zone, and to kill sides later, and use physical support like sonia
no support can tank that many moves, you need to heal, or roll for a run where they don't spam moves
verbal karma
...Hammer Arm insta-kills NC Rosa, though
Like, it's a guaranteed OHKO
Iron Head instakills 95% of the time, too
manic kiln
you need a support that can fully buff the mediocre Naomi and tank, there's only ncblue but you don't have him
if you use rosa just sleep them
silver dirge
There aren't many supports in your roster that can tank as well as Rosa can, on top of providing offensive benefits to the team. You've got three solutions, (1): denials. (2): reduce your points. (3): Replace Naomi.
Stop going in circles, you're ignoring all the advice given to you - again.
wicked junco
With high str parameters (almost mandatory for 3k) you shouldn't try to find a pair that can withstand every move from this stage, they hit pretty hard, you're going to have a much easier time negating all their possible moves
verbal karma
I feel like you misunderstood what I am asking for
I am not asking for a support that can withstand everything
Just one that doesn't instantly die to one single Hammer Arm on Turn 1
wicked junco
But NCRosa wouldn't die if she sleeps the enemy
It's literally part of her kit
Her kit that allows her to survive in battles
verbal karma
But NCRosa wouldn't die if she sleeps the enemy
That's assuming the enemy actually falls asleep
silver dirge
There aren't many supports in your roster that can tank as well as Rosa can, on ...
@verbal karma Seriously, read this ^
manic kiln
it's easier to just reset tbh, you can reset at least 10 times for a good rng run but you're still here
wicked junco
So you don't want to use the unit the way she's supposed to be designed then?
Why pulling for her, then? 
verbal karma
So you don't want to use the unit the way she's supposed to be designed then?
I would use the unit the way she's designed to be used if the way she's designed to be used actually worked
silver dirge
It does work. You're being stubborn for no reason. If you're descending into complaints, take it to #salt-channel
Your failure to utilise a unit is not a kit flaw
wicked junco
I would use the unit the way she's designed to be used if the way she's designed...
Missing sing is part of her design as well tho
So reseting stages is still on the table for her
verbal karma
Damn...
manic kiln
Here, i just did a quick run, 1/5 rosa, didn’t even max bertha atk and still 1hko with +6 def metagross, 1 bulldoze from courtney and sides were done
verbal karma
I need a team that reduces resets then
keen jasper
manic kiln
Reset is part of 3k clear
wicked junco
I need a team that reduces resets then
You know there's no perfect team with 0 rng involved for 3k, right?
manic kiln
Esp if you use gen pool and 1/5 units
keen jasper
I need a team that reduces resets then
Have you tried clears that are... Unorthrodoxed to you?
verbal karma
You know there's no perfect team with 0 rng involved for 3k, right?
I am not asking for 0 RNG, just for...less RNG...
Ya know, less factors I need to reset for
keen jasper
Like literally using -1 and -2 sync CD and half HP parameters and brute force the fight with as little HP as possible?
lean lion
Here, i just did a quick run, 1/5 rosa, didn’t even max bertha atk and still 1hk...
Bertha nuke is really good damn? Can't wait to get her 3/5
verbal karma
Like literally using -1 and -2 sync CD and half HP parameters and brute force th...
...I am listening
keen jasper
Have you watched my 4k pts. clear?
verbal karma
Where?
keen jasper
In YT
manic kiln
Bertha nuke is really good damn? Can't wait to get her 3/5
that was 50k, i did another run for 80k, she hit hard
verbal karma
Hmm...hold on, gotta need to get to my PC first
keen jasper
Hmm...hold on, gotta need to get to my PC first
Tell me which fight are you doing
verbal karma
Tell me which fight are you doing
Steven Stone
keen jasper
Ah Steven, I can definitely do 4k with my SS Gio
lean lion
Nvm found it in you profile
keen jasper
What's your channel called Anni?
It's in my profile
keen jasper
I don't have SS Gio
Use someone similar to him
verbal karma
Use someone similar to him
...wait, who's similar to him?
keen jasper
...wait, who's similar to him?
Sort by units who can use ground moves
If you have Rose, then he's the next best
verbal karma
Sort by units who can use ground moves
verbal karma
If you have Rose, then he's the next best
I do not have him
wicked junco
I did this one with Nita, Bertha and Cynthia
keen jasper
Hmmmm
manic kiln
i mean i suggested bertha courtney and physical support, it's easy and not much rng
keen jasper
If your Cynthia/Garchomp was 3/5, then you can brute force
manic kiln
only need to avoid hammer arm and flash cannon spam
verbal karma
i mean i suggested bertha courtney and physical support, it's easy and not much ...
Wait, how would that work? I thought Bertha would rather wanna be support than be an attacker
manic kiln
she's still a tech with high nuke
verbal karma
Hmm...
manic kiln
silver dirge
verbal karma
Okay, will have to try that...Bertha/Courtney/Sonia
Don't really see any other viable option at that point
manic kiln
she doesn't give much support to naomi other than sand
wicked junco
Nita can achieve a similar effect than Courtney if you can time your Flys since Ground Passive
keen jasper
I do not have him
Ok, you may not be able to brute force this fight, but you can do similar concepts on other fights
BTW, can SS Gio brute force Glacia?
In 4k pts.
sharp willow
4k points off type sentry entry x2 feels like a bad idea
keen jasper
I'd assume you can with steel zone, but I don't have a single steel zone unit
sharp willow
im not gonna lie
keen jasper
SS Gio has Iron Tail
silver dirge
4k points against sentry entry likely won't work, not for SS Gio, you're missing strong burst damage Some of the big damage dealers probably can get by
wicked junco
Even without Senty Entry, SSGio with PalMarnie sounds already kinda gauge hungry
keen jasper
I need a MUN stacker
I won't even bother using Pal Marnie's Iron Head
But having V. Thorton would be something else
wicked junco
At max debuff point growl also starts stop doing the animation, so needs more gauge
keen jasper
Besides NC Rosa, who can do a lot of PMUN stacking?
silver dirge
Argenta & SS Ace
keen jasper
And don't say Anni Raihan
sharp willow
SS Acerola, SC Steven, Argenta
keen jasper
Ok
This makes me wish this week had half sync CD
Man, this week's params are ass except for Steven's
fathom jackal
I havent played since ash came out I wanted to know if there is anyone could help me make a team for each one
keen jasper
Actually, NVM, I want to save SS Gio for Steven
Do you think eggmon striker Perrserker and Magneton can brute force Glacia?
verbal karma
Ok, you may not be able to brute force this fight, but you can do similar concep...
I...honestly feared that...
guess I'll try the Bertha + Courtney team then
I hope this grid can kill
Actually, lemme replace Sandstorm evasion with another Sync Attack panel
Then it should definitely nuke
manic kiln
you don't need sand mpr
verbal karma
damn, is seriously nobody able to survive Hammer Arm?
manic kiln
not with 3k parameters, sonia has 300+ def, with a few def buffs she can tank it but they'll still 2 hit KO her
verbal karma
...I assume Sonia is better at tanking than Hop?
lean lion
I havent played since ash came out I wanted to know if there is anyone could hel...
Please share your roster using this tracker
halcyon sail
Hop has HA
lean lion
+tracker
frozen depotBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
manic kiln
...I assume Sonia is better at tanking than Hop?
you can try, he's better when he's at full hp but with sandstorm you can't stay at 100%
also the left has bulldoze and earthquake, sonia won't like them
verbal karma
honestly, right now, nothing I am trying is working
and it's all because of Iron Head and especially Hammer Arm
lean lion
...I assume Sonia is better at tanking than Hop?
Trin would you consider poison stalling? This stage gave me problems too, but poison stall was a pretty free win.
verbal karma
Trin would you consider poison stalling? This stage gave me problems too, but po...
...if nothing else will work, then sure
problem is that poison stalling has stopped working for me as of late as well
like, it still worked at 2.5k points
but once the 3k points update happened, it...worked once, and then never again
lean lion
The only RNG you'll have to deal with would be potion mprs
silver dirge
Bear in mind Trout has very recently started the game, around 2 months ago I believe, and is handling 3K CS like a champ. If they can poison stall, so can you, just need to be patient, make the right team & follow the right steps
halcyon sail
Tbh the 15k reward is 5 Champion spirits
silver dirge
Believe me, we've all said that before
manic kiln
honestly, right now, nothing I am trying is working
do you still have ssblue, at least he's tankier, atk buff is gonna be slow tho but enough to nuke
manic kiln
Yeah pretty comfortable clear
My bertha is exed but you don’t need 90k to kill, and with safety net you’ll have enough time to clear sides
need 2 bulldoze to kill sides but with trap + rock field courtney only need to hit 1 time
verbal karma
oh no
even after lowering the points
I still can't win
I can beat the mid now before he syncs
but the Rock Slide insta-kills Courtney
manic kiln
she doesn't need to survive, bertha can finish, or did they use rock slide early
just try again, don't expect to get it 1st try
verbal karma
she doesn't need to survive, bertha can finish, or did they use rock slide early...
they used Rock Slide as soon as the mid died
keen jasper
Ok wow, if it weren't for it not critting, my old brute force steel team still works on steel-weak Glacia
Champion Calem/Gloria/Dana
Though the only difference here is that I have to weaken Glacia with Behemoth Bash, though that should've been the strat initially
manic kiln
they used Rock Slide as soon as the mid died
oh it's normal then, and bertha can still finish, did you even trap them and use rock field
verbal karma
I did, but sadly, the following EQ killed her anyway
lunar meadow
Trying to offtype Phoebe, and I am poisoning her but she's still taking NO damage. At all.
WTF is up with her?
Her only passive is the one that requires a status effect, and I'm applying one
Are electric weak enemies just broken strong because electric types are?
keen jasper
You know, Gloria really surprises me
lunar meadow
Or does she have wise entry x2 and I'm missing it...?
lunar meadow
Poison should cancel that
keen jasper
Well, she's more vulnerable to paralyze, but ok
sharp willow
Are electric weak enemies just broken strong because electric types are?
she has a naturally high hp stat to go with it
just under 29k
manic kiln
I did, but sadly, the following EQ killed her anyway
ground zone powers earthquake, so time it to benefit only your sync and don't use it again
keen jasper
Yeah, I'm just showing you how to do it
verbal karma
oh
manic kiln
well you need to have the units to brute force tho
keen jasper
Yes, I'm just saying that if Trin has the means to brute force, then he can use it as another option
verbal karma
well, sadly, I don't have the means to brute force
that's the problem
sadly, my current team is also not working, even with lowered points
at this point, Ground-weak Steven might be JUST impossible for me even at 14.5k points
left storm
Is your Courtney 3/5?
keen jasper
2/5
verbal karma
and if I can't reach those points, then what's even the point?
verbal karma
Is your Courtney 3/5?
2/5
left storm
No decent ground units aside bertha and Naomi?
manic kiln
just try again, you're getting close, you can tank, you can kill mid, better than your previous team
verbal karma
No decent ground units aside bertha and Naomi?
left storm
Him + 2/5 Courtney might do it with a decent support
Sonia or smth
His nuke is legit
wicked junco
Him + 2/5 Courtney might do it with a decent support
Still no better than Bertha's nuke anyways
rain turret
finally Im done with this week's stadium
teams on #1010274591601598555
fathom jackal
north crown
I'm assuming you want help for CS teambuilding right? Hard or MM?
fathom jackal
I'm assuming you want help for CS teambuilding right? Hard or MM?
I just need to do this so I can get all those gems lol
north crown
Have you ever played this mode before?
lean lion
They're looking to clear hard mode
I asked them to share roster using tracker but the channel was too active at the time, might have missed the tracker link
fathom jackal
Have you ever played this mode before?
Yeah when it came out
north crown
@fathom jackal So I cooked a full course meal:
[SIDNEY/BUG] Skyla, Guzma, Kukui
- Standard clear. After 2nd sync, you can choose to use Accelrock, provided you gridded staggering on him; this is not necessary.
[PHOEBE/ELECTRIC] Sabrina, Hau, SSLeaf
- Standard clear with Paralysis to fend off her gimmick.
[alternative] Melony, N, SSLeaf - Replace Glacia with Sabrina (in the GLACIA/STEEL team) if you choose to do this clear. idk if Zekrom can burst through Sentry Entry x2...
[GLACIA/STEEL] SpBurgh, Steven/Solgaleo, Riley
- Standard clear. Grid Solgaleo.
[DRAKE/DRAGON] Bertha, Lance, Glacia
- Relatively standard clear. Partially grid Lance and Glacia. Set Sandstorm on turn 3 for quadqueue access.
[STEVEN/GROUND] Leaf, Leon, Plumeria
- Grid Leaf. I really hope this presyncs. If all else fails, use Leon's Max Move.
I hope you remember what the type medal was 
fathom jackal
<@389484811699617799> So I cooked a full course meal:
[SIDNEY/BUG] Skyla, Guzma...
Are things like swana and og misty and 1st anni blue still good
And Leon
And N
left storm
Still no better than Bertha's nuke anyways
He has actual DPS tho
north crown
ofc; I mentioned most of those pairs.
left storm
Shit but better than sand tomb
fathom jackal
ofc; I mentioned most of those pairs.
Oooo is lance good now
north crown
relatively good 
left storm
He's really really good 3)5
north crown
N is good; he's just countered by one of Phoebe's gimmicks. You could still probably use your favourite on her still, but do know that the damage won't be as high as you'd expect.
exotic tinsel
Here's my 5* units, could someone help me with team building for e4? I have an understanding of my main units but not enough to make 4-5 full teams
north crown
Here's my 5* units, could someone help me with team building for e4? I have an u...
Hard Mode or MM?
north crown
Can I assume that you never beat the Hoenn E4 and/or you didn't register any types in the type medal?
fathom jackal
I spent so much cause I 5/5 him day 1
exotic tinsel
Correct, I have no clears.
north crown
Alright... lemme COOK 
exotic tinsel
Normally I'm using Chase supporting mix red for everything. Doesn't work when they can get 1 win lol
north crown
Here's my 5* units, could someone help me with team building for e4? I have an u...
Can you show EVERYTHING in the move level menu instead?
exotic tinsel
wicked junco
I don't really think so when it's ST
ST?
left storm
Single target
wicked junco
I still think there's a huge difference in Nuke, more relevant than the breadcrumps of dps that Bulldoze would get you
wicked junco
Ah, that could be, I can't remember anymore how juicy Ex-less Bertha nuke was
cold kestrel
Would it be any challenge to off type these battles with adaman, irida, and gladion using one of them per fight? Still unlocking all types for this region, don’t have any yet
north crown
@exotic tinsel So I cooked yet ANOTHER full course meal:
[SIDNEY/BUG] Brycen, Burgh, Sabrina
- trust the Brycen endure tanking
[PHOEBE/ELECTRIC] Cheryl, Petey, Plumeria
- I hope this is able to Presync on Hard Mode.
[GLACIA/STEEL] Tina, Solgaleo, Riley
- Use Charm on Turn 3; trust me.
[DRAKE/DRAGON] \\\\, Cyrus, Acerola
- Round 2. Grid Aggro 1 on Acerola. Have her flinch mid Turn 1, then flinch right on Turn 2 so that you can queue sync on Turn 3. ez w.
[STEVEN/GROUND] Skyla, Clay, MRed
- Pls MRed. idk much about you, but pls carry!!
north crown
Would it be any challenge to off type these battles with adaman, irida, and glad...
fore sure. just be careful not to double down on types, as the medal needs all 18.
left storm
Ah, that could be, I can't remember anymore how juicy Ex-less Bertha nuke was
I don't run cs2 bertha personally
cold kestrel
fore sure. just be careful not to double down on types, as the medal needs all 1...
Alright got it. I’ve gotten a few medals form already just haven’t gotten any on this region yet
These should be fine right?
north crown
one thing to note: Hilbert is insignificant for Solgaleo's team.
cold kestrel
Tbh he’s just kinda there to fill in a type
north crown
oh also Piers, tho you might want him for gauge... hm..
perhaps you could switch both Hilbert and Piers for a different pair? I'm pretty sure there's faster/better alternatives
wake 60 flinch? tlrosa's no gauge moves?
masked royal's max teamwide speed?
cold kestrel
Got it
north crown
Nanu's charging inflicion on screech via grid?
mellow linden
I think they get the picture, lol
north crown
Lana, Siebold, and Marlon's MGR9; Barry's self max speed + 1 gauge move; Elio's PM5; SSMisty's gauge boosting passive...
exotic tinsel
<@339120536325980183> So I cooked yet ANOTHER full course meal:
[SIDNEY/BUG] Br...
Either I'm doing something very wrong or I'm not even making a dent on sydney.
north crown
What team u using on him?
exotic tinsel
Clearly I need to farm a few more xp tomes but that wouldn't be this big a difference
north crown
Admittedly, I did give you a rather bootleg clear, tho I didn't think i'd be that bad
we might need Ghetsis to offtype instead and hope Sabrina can clear onto dear life.
exotic tinsel
Brycen is taking roughly 50% from a ST attack
So with Sabrina healing and endure its still not that long
Don't worry as much about proper type clearing for now, not sure if I have the depth for this
north crown
yeah.. perhaps iit'd be best to disregard a single type slot for your own sanity
If you could find another solution yourself, huge props; otherwise, uh..
exotic tinsel
I can shelve this for a few days to farm up xp mats
wicked junco
You need 2 weeks to get the medal anyways, so as long as you get +3 types this one, it's fine
exotic tinsel
And I can try the other battles first
north crown
I'd rather you just forego the ice type
Every other team seems airtight so might as well get it over with (unless you really want to get into MPR luck, in which case gl.)
exotic tinsel
So drop ice for gheisis?
north crown
that's the plan now that Brycen seems to have failed
fathom jackal
What do I put on them lol for ice girl
exotic tinsel
that's the plan now that Brycen seems to have failed
Burgh still does like no damage
exotic tinsel
Managed to beat it with Chase, since he wasn't used elsewhere and this was the hardest one.
Sabrina did not hold on. At all.
north crown
Yeah I figured 
exotic tinsel
Gonna have to farm the coop event for a few days in order to get other pairs to 120 lol, who's the 1st pair I'm using vs drake
lunar meadow
Optimize runs are actually hard in 3000 points fights ☠️
swift swan
optimize is just bad
verbal karma
...no matter what I do, no matter what team I choose, no matter how I lower my points from 15k to 14.5k, I just can't win against Ground-weak Steven
I just can't win...it just feels impossible at this point
manic kiln
still at this? without a video idk
but i'm gonna try to post my clear
old orchid
Lost you have posted your clears multiple times already 
manic kiln
Lost you have posted your clears multiple times already <:MortySigh:614702971246...
I already got this one recorded in 5 mins yesterday in case they couldn't replicate the clear
idk how can you fail tbh when a newbie can also clear or poison stall
verbal karma
I wish I knew 😦
manic kiln
5/5 courtney but no grid, doesn't matter
5/5 blue but just need 3/5 grid with endurance and adrenaline + team fish bump/triage tank
unlucky run overall, they spam damage moves but no hammer arm
verbal karma
You know what is the worst part?
You remember how I mentioned that I could beat mid?
I was...never able to replicate that afterwards
and I just don't know why
manic kiln
well probably not enough atk buff, blue needs to get hit to buff atk
but like bertha can still nuke without max atk
you can try sonia again
verbal karma
well probably not enough atk buff, blue needs to get hit to buff atk
That was when I used Hop, though
manic kiln
manic kiln
how much dmg did you do to the mid
verbal karma
This much
manic kiln
like 40k should be enough to take them down
verbal karma
And now, Bertha's sync only does 17k 😦
wicked junco
You sure all of those attempts Bertha nuke was doing crit damage?
verbal karma
At this point, I am so close to switching over to poison stall...
manic kiln
if you have to go for it
verbal karma
...okay, if I wanna go poison stall, then I first need to figure out why poison stall stopped working for me
Anything wrong with my parameters?
wicked junco
Depends on the team used in question, I may or may not pick some Str or Regen instead of that many sync countdown down
You might also pick Five stats up if you're venom drenching, half ally MP if your stall team relies on passives, and Ally HP down if you have fast burst healing, or team healing with a solid enough tank
verbal karma
Depends on the team used in question, I may or may not pick some Str or Regen in...
SS Leaf, Janine and...uh...forgot who the support is
Ah, looks like it's Hop again
Ya know, for someone who heavily dislikes the character, I sure use him a lot
swift swan
drop that ally healing down
strength 1 is fine
I'd pick up a trap unit like Lucy or BP Erika so you have two sources of DOT
verbal karma
Okay, replacing Sync CD with Strength...made me win...barely...
silver dirge
until next week!
undone ether
my next week team is ready 😮
silver dirge
Love how you've got two NY Dawns bestie! Share the secrets
undone ether
SS Diantha (1)
i usually just copy pasta from previous weeks
well that should do it ;x
wicked junco
Does the Rock team have enough gauge? I only have SCHilda and ClassicBlue at 1/5 but seems kinda gauge heavy
Nvm it's SSBlue I can't read
undone ether
SS Blue's enough gauge tbh.
SC Hilda syncs for turning her moves from 4bar to 3star
wicked junco
Yeah yeah, I was imagining a different Blue
wicked junco
Yeah, SSBlue expansion is kinda meh
Cool for rain and not much else, but there's already better rain teams than him
The fact that he can't put rain himself makes it hard to compete against other more compact role units
lean lion
Would Hop + 1/5 Olivia + Roark work for Drake next week? I'm not sure about guage for this team. And don't know if Olivia's dps is good at 1/5.
old orchid
i would rather focusing on Roark by bring def debuffer, or just offtype
rain turret
@manic mica is your sst red ex'd and with role?
rain turret
oh, then that's enough
manic mica
Would 140 Kris and Jolteon be better than 120 Volkner and Electivire?
rain turret
obviously you cant add no status condition, no stat reduction and no terrain parameters
manic mica
Yea
old orchid
bring anyone that can help Volkner buffing his offensive stats to max
manic mica
(SSA Cynthia 2/5, Sonia 4/5)
manic mica
bring anyone that can help Volkner buffing his offensive stats to max
Rosa and Snivy?
formal vigil
I would bring a spak crit buffer
manic mica
Ooo
I thought SST Red was the main damage dealer on the team lol
If needed I could use NC Rosa (3/5 150 EXR) but is it worth using her up for 150 more points?
Ah sorry gtg to Psychology now cya
lean lion
Thoughts on these for next week's CSMM?
old orchid
Phoebe team lacks someone to debuff offensive stats
the rest is fine, but be careful with Wallace's Toxic before his sync
if you have Bianca, her and Giovanni/Caitlin/Olympia will easily destroy Wallace
lean lion
I'll be honest, I kinda don't like using Giovanni. Feels too slow even with spd buffs. But I'll keep that as a backup option.
lean lion
Phoebe team lacks someone to debuff offensive stats
Would Grusha be overkill? Also I wanted to ask does his b move mess up queue?
old orchid
Grusha is *he, but yes his B Move will mess up with quad queue
lean lion
Yeah i remembered lol
old orchid
Leaf is 3/5 right?
old orchid
Lucian works yeah
lean lion
Done tysm Gakon!
old orchid
sick inlet
Love how you've got two NY Dawns bestie! Share the secrets
Ny dawn overrated (mine is only 1/5)
calm marsh
NY Dawn at 1/5 just so sad 
cedar fable
do i just spam dark black outrage on drake?
manic kiln
you can't spam it tho, but like 1-2 bmove should be enough to wipe drake
rotund lagoon
do i just spam dark black outrage on drake?
Is this NC Nate’s B Move?
cedar fable
yeah
old orchid
yes
rotund lagoon
Yeah it’s one use per sync cycle
sweet umbra
Anyone have the schedule of the current Hoenn CS or where to find it? Bot is still showing last month's Sinnoh's
frozen depotBOT
rotund lagoon
I use it cause it’s more detailed and you can switch between weeks
Oh and there’s an infographic in the pins
sweet umbra
Thanks
sweet umbra
Oh and there’s an infographic in the pins
Finally found it! Discord mobile app for some reason moved the pinned messages on "Settings"
sweet umbra
Yeah...
turbid geyser
Hello guys I’m wondering, would you recommend giving 1/5 rose head start 1? Because it can synergize with champion bede, and it also helps with his dynamax turn, I’m having trouble with tougher steel stages (glacia, Bertha) or should he still have crit strike 2 on?
old orchid
HS1 on him is a good idea, tbh. but dont give him any cookie yet
we are going to get multiple lucky skill slots feature soon, so wait until next update first
and you can switch between HS1 and CS2 anytime
crystal notch
As soon as that drops so many techs and strikers in my team will have HS1
turbid geyser
Ah right, I completely forgot about that feature
crystal notch
turbid geyser
Because my issue I’m having is post sync if glacia presses blizzard and rose doesn’t get the flinch im dead
crystal notch
have you considered...not post syncing?
turbid geyser
And Bertha same thing with EQ but even worse because colress is weak to ground
I run -3 sync countdown parameters so I can get 2 syncs in + points + I don’t have to run as much strength/hp
Because I can usually live the sync itself it’s just afterward
Hell with dark weak phoebe i can live 2 syncs with incin
old orchid
crystal notch
old orchid
post syncing in harder region usually means run ender
north crown
crystal notch
I...I think this is a parameter issue
crystal notch
I run -3 sync countdown parameters so I can get 2 syncs in + points + I don’t ha...
Trust me, it's better to take strength 2 over -2 sync cd
turbid geyser
Might be, this is what I usually run for on type
crystal notch
Hmmm a lot of questionable choices
You're better off taking attack 3 than max 2 hp
That's incredibly punishing bulk
You're adding like, what? 6k+ to enemy phoebe hp?
Well glacia isn't phoebe
silver dirge
It depends on the strategy. If you want to survive the sync and keep the sync countdown you can't increase offenses
turbid geyser
Yeah, I can live the sync itself and most other stages are pretty easy anyway, it’s just more difficult stages on my weaker types
Like steel Bertha and glacia
Ghost weak lucian was a huge problem for me too, phobe idk yet I haven’t fought her ghost stage in 3k
crystal notch
Phoebe has 28k base hp
turbid geyser
Ghost or dark weak?
old orchid
Ghost or dark weak?
both
crystal notch
Are you running both a striker and a tech in the team?
turbid geyser
And anni lillie doesn’t do enough ghost damage
turbid geyser
Are you running both a striker and a tech in the team?
Depends on the type
crystal notch
If not, you can at least take the "tech/striker gets 3x damage" instead of -1 sync cd
Personally I would have taken +1 def over -1 sync cd
turbid geyser
I have 2/5 anni lillie and it feels like she doesn’t do enough damage vs these more super bulky ghost stages
I see
crystal notch
Since one extra turn might be enough damage to stop post sync blizzard from happening
turbid geyser
Alright, that makes sense
crystal notch
Also if your strikers can be maxed out with 1 TM usage + 1 TM support usage
You can also consider taking half ally mp
Nowadays a lot of pairs have like, +4 atk +2/3 crit baked into themselves
turbid geyser
Yeah, what I’m Espically worried for with those though is like
Zone/weather units
With that half tm thing
crystal notch
Fair enough, it definitely depends on situation
north crown
could run hallf ally mp with something like Support, AnniLillie/SSRCynthia, EVictor and sync with the horse first.
sick inlet
we are going to get multiple lucky skill slots feature soon, so wait until next ...
Me who changes his cookies all the time because I don't believe it's coming next month
keen jasper
Can Anni Lillie's EX role be able to brute force ghost-weak Lucian?
I know it's not Sinnoh CS, but I still wonder
sick inlet
3/5 without rolex would still obliterate Lucian
keen jasper
Well, you know how I roll right?
formal vigil
as long you use zone should be fine
sick inlet
Well, you know how I roll right?
You mean full pts?