Champion Stadium

[brave halo]

Still he has passives of getting better when defense in raised

That team looks like it'll be one sync and done

[mellow linden]

Well Steven probably won't even get to Sync

[rotund lagoon]

Idk why you feel you need to give that opinion of them.

[lean lion]

You'll nuke them hard before they can sync anyway

[mellow linden]

Kris is an absolute monster under Rain

[rotund lagoon]

~~I really need to use her again, I love her ~~

[sharp willow]

Yeah I need to use her more often myself

[lean lion]

I tried her for the first time for this week's CSMM. Insta EXd.

[rotund lagoon]

Btw I honestly think Hilbert is better here to reduce setup time.

[lean lion]

So you don't even use any TMs on Kris?

[rotund lagoon]

Pairs that can insta-setup or set up a pair in two turns are great to have and I would not remove them tbh

[rotund lagoon]

Oh actually, once before Kris’ sync, due to Crit Next

[lean lion]

Crit focus is kinda unreliable though

Shouldn't be a problem for sync

[rotund lagoon]

Oh no no, I mean Crit Next

[mellow linden]

When using Kris I usually use her Trainer Move once at the start of the fight and once right before her Sync

[lean lion]

No i mean for maxing crit

[rotund lagoon]

Do you not know about Crit Next?

[sharp willow]

Its reliable enough since she has two uses of guaranteed crits

[mellow linden]

Worst case scenario you can reset if the crits don't happen early enough

[sharp willow]

Once you're at +2 crit its an 80% chance to crit anything outside of a sync move, and hitting that will get you to +3

[lean lion]

Right

[lean lion]

This saved my sanity against Sidney. Kahili's sure crit sync nuke.

[rotund lagoon]

Oh lol

But yeah, Sure Crit syncs are great

[lean lion]

I should have thought of this for my Kris run. Now I know I wasted too many turns setting up buffs for Kris while I could be using a different support and clearing faster.

Shauna would have been way better ig

From the ones I had available

Don't havr Hilbert yet sadly

[azure shale]

Any general suggestions for hard mode elite 4? I’m semi new but I’ve built 4 base teams with what I have to hopefully cover the spread, that doesn’t account for the champion tho

[sharp willow]

could you post what youre planning on using, and fill this out with every character you own

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[azure shale]

I don’t have the time to fill out the form but I’ll send the teams I have prepared, they make up most of that I’ve already farmed to about the level I feel is adequate, I still have all of the legends available to farm and outside of the main characters listed it’s general pool units

They all have room to flex these are just baseline teams, I feel I need a few more support or another solid dmg, maybe I’ll full farm legend adventure(any suggestions are always helpful thank you:)

[sharp willow]

first team seems fine enough, I'm not entirely sure what Leaf is doing there but Chase and SS Red is a pretty good combo to have

for the second team, i would advise a different support than Hop. He isnt really helping out Leon as a damage dealer at all

the third team, using Palentines Elesa is not particularly advisable unless the content is specifically weak to flying type and she has multiple dupes, and SS Brendan and Palentines Mallow both are not particularly helpful for her

fourth team, your supports arent too helpful again, I would specifically suggest replacing alcremie as Lenora does a decent amount of its job already

Farming the Legendary Adventures characters is definitely a good idea, for the third team Mewtwo would work fairly well with SS Brendan since he needs help with buffing his own special attack (which brendan does) and really appreciates the special defense debuffs Brendan brings

for the second team, i would potentially recommend Sabrina as a fairly good special support, able to help max Leons critical rate and special attack

but that assumes you have her, shes a gacha 5* so you might not

[azure shale]

anything that looks way out of place is a fill in 2nd support due to theme skills, they are first to be replaced so thank you

[azure shale]

The alakazam? Yes I do

[sharp willow]

excellent

[azure shale]

I have a fair amount of regular pool units she’s also leveled

[sharp willow]

i will say just to start with, dont worry about Theme Skills. Theyre an extra benefit if they happen to match, but they dont beat out using a character that helps your main pairs more to start

[azure shale]

Gotcha, I should be all good now, thank you for the advice!

[sharp willow]

please come let me know if you end up struggling at all

[azure shale]

Gotcha👍 I should be all good, I’ve played the games for a long while so translating them to the gacha formula has been decent for my brain

[frozen fossil]

I've finally managed to beat Steven. It was ridiculously RNG-dependent. I used Winona, Hilbert/Samurott, and Kris/Feraligatr.
Kris and Winona were busy fishing for Flinches, and Samurott was buffing me while hoping it would take no more than one attack.
In an earlier attempt, I did manage to get to my second Sync, but Aggron barely survived, because I had picked one HP+ parameter, because otherwise Samurott would be 1- or 2-shot.
In my successful attempt, I went for purely offensive parameters and reset until I got all of my required flinches.
I've managed to get 15,000 points this week.
Thanks again to y'all who helped me.

[north crown]

Consider using replacement pairs for the type medal if you wish to progress faster.

[sick inlet]

Next reset

Fairy weak Sidney

Ugh

Disgusting

[mellow linden]

My nemesis, Steel weak Glacia, also returns

[sick inlet]

Is it a Blizzard spamming Glacia?

Wait
It's not fairy weak Sidney

[paper summit]

she does that on all stages

[sick inlet]

It's bug weak

I hate my life a little bit more rn

[sharp willow]

yeah she does that

the big thing is sentry entry x2

[undone ether]

Cursed week as well. :x

[sharp willow]

which, since we dont really have any accessible special steel DPSes, makes things kinda awkward a lot of the time

[paper summit]

too bad the Meowth event doesn't start until next Sunday

[sick inlet]

[paper summit]

eh, other than Glacia is somewhat whatever tbh

[mellow linden]

Poison stall for Glacia tomorrow

[paper summit]

I guess you can make a case for bug and ground given the bad accessible options

[undone ether]

Bug Weak Sidney is a bane 😐

[sharp willow]

Acute Senses on drake is like, kinda annoying

[mellow linden]

I’m excited for Bug weak Sidney, personally

Another round of Lusamine + H. Viola

[paper summit]

is it? in CS it's a non issue when Gradual Healing already shuts it down

[sharp willow]

sometimes i like not taking that

[undone ether]

its basically made for SS Serena.

• 1 weather changer

[sick inlet]

[sharp willow]

feels more built for Anni Raihan but yeah

[paper summit]

hilarious that you think using Serena requires caring about the weather

[sick inlet]

As a Duo/Solo stan, I hate having to counter too many gimmicks

[paper summit]

the price to pay for choosing that life

[mellow linden]

I’ll be smacking Drake around with the true Dragon-type master

[undone ether]

lol i do have NY Clair too

but my team for SS Serena is SS Morty and 3/5 Dialga

[mellow linden]

Who said anything about NY Clair

I only used that emote because it works better than

I’m currently waiting for a 2nd Support candy before I start using NY Clair extensively

[sharp willow]

i use SS Brendan usually, idk what ill use this week though

[paper summit]

after playing HGSS I lost all respect for that woman

[rotund lagoon]

I get to use Variety Thorton now

[paper summit]

Doom Desire jumpscare for me

[undone ether]

she's going to be difficult to candy though. I've got a few supports that really really really really need it 😦

[nocturne pawn]

acute senses is a literal joke

[sharp willow]

Its usually not too bad but when I'm doing weaker character clears Gradual Healing is one of the first parameters to go. Especially when the boss has naturally high hp.

[toxic cobalt]

Huh. I almost never take it off.

[sharp willow]

I've found it can really hamper the ability to do enough damage at times. And other times its literally free.

Your mileage may vary.

Drake seems middle of the road health wise so its probably fine to keep it on for it but yeah

[nocturne pawn]

which one has acute senses again?

if its ice then i dont see an issue when he just explodes to hala sync

[paper summit]

it's dragon weak

even bigger of a joke

it really is on the tamer side of the Hoenn stages

[undone ether]

for next week, its Drake (Dragon)

or rather in a reset

[sharp willow]

Yeah this one specifically isn't gonna be much of an issue unless I do something dumb.

I will probably be doing something dumb

[undone ether]

my team for this upcoming reset :x

tbh... SC Jasmine has been my anti Glacia for a long time.

[sharp willow]

I almost never plan teams in advance ngl

[undone ether]

can't wait to give her more energy tho

[crystal notch]

how painful is it to ontype drake with olivia 2/5?

[sharp willow]

You can probably do it reasonably, though she would need a decent bit of support. She absolutely will hate his Slo-mo passive though since one of her main grid tiles is Inertia

[crystal notch]

yeah which is why I'm asking

egh, time to bring out the guns again.

oh wait that's next next week

[undone ether]

I make like 2 weeks or the entire month after a datamine, for my teams.

[swift swan]

Heads up i might be busy during reset time so round parameters might be late

[nocturne pawn]

you can use sonia to counteract slo mo but keep in mind she needs adrenaline for that to work

[north crown]

Either that, or deny sides with nuke

[silver dirge]

how dare you have other priorities

not allowed, do better

[undone ether]

oh

congrats on full mod status arch

[silver dirge]

thanks rei

[swift swan]

Updated

[old orchid]

Ho ho good parameters for my weekly challenge

[keen jasper]

Not a single round to help me against 4k Glacia

[undone ether]

Hmm R3 seems like a good option for Glacia

[cold tusk]

raihan is dog sht

we need an op special steel striker

[toxic cobalt]

"Additional effects of moves are more likely to occur" FINALLY It's been years

[silver dirge]

No half sync

[verbal karma]

R1 Phoebe, R2 Drake, R3 Sidney and R4 Glacia, that good?

As for what I have planned:

• R1 Phoebe: Ash (obviously)
• R2 Drake: I dunno
• R3 Sidney: Alder (due to the R3 gimmick)
• R4: uh...Solgaleo, I guess?

[toxic cobalt]

Glacia has sentry entry

[silver dirge]

Trin off-typing I'm impressed

[verbal karma]

I keep on forgetting which entry buffs which defense

[verbal karma]

When did I say I was off-typing?

[silver dirge]

Oh oops

Misread on my part

My bad

For a second I thought you were going to off-type Glacia with Ash

[verbal karma]

Nah

Ash on Phoebe

[toxic cobalt]

Not a bad plan

[verbal karma]

...wait, that sounds wrong

I mean, Solgaleo is plenty of strong, too

[silver dirge]

Sentry Entry x2 you are going to struggle with that

Double base defenses

It will be like off-typing with Solgaleo, no zone, on 3k points - are you up for that?

[swift swan]

I'd just offtype glacia if your physical steel is subpar

[undone ether]

i think i'm might run poison stall if glacia becomes quite a threat 😭

[verbal karma]

I mean, I don't exactly have many options here...

and I really wanna avoid off-typing tbh

[silver dirge]

Alright then try it, but we've warned you

[undone ether]

that Gloria at 3/5 hmm

[swift swan]

Raihan is meant to counter Glacia. But there will be gauge issues

[verbal karma]

Hmm...so I have to decide between R3 Glacia or R3 Sidney 😦

Because both Raihan and Alder are gonna be MG hungry

[undone ether]

oh weird. Colress is physical sync?

😦

[verbal karma]

and my Bug-type selection is somehow even MORE dire

[undone ether]

i'm gonna be using uh Burgh for that stage

[old orchid]

no? Burgh is right there

[undone ether]

though, no EX kinda sucks, but doable.

[verbal karma]

Yeah, I didn't EX Burgh because I...don't really like using Burgh tbh...

[old orchid]

no EX is not a big issue either

[undone ether]

he's got a nice power boost so he'll do quite a bit of damage

[swift swan]

Raihan needs the gauges more

By far

[silver dirge]

Raihan is probably going to appreciate the MGA + some sort of a speed/gauge support

You'll want a similar support for Alder too but the param isn't necessary

[verbal karma]

Damn, Steel Beam MGR is locked behind 2/5 😦

[undone ether]

You just need someone to give him gauge o_o!

[cold tusk]

i ended up running the recommended team with raihan and even then i got lucky with multiple blizzard misses. this sht is insane

[wide adder]

by Additional effects more likely to occur, does that mean like OAR1 HE1 Aggrav1 type of deal, or only certain ones of those? i forget

[edgy ermine]

Since the Successful Teams is currently down, is there a list of recommended presets to use as reference that could generally work for all fights?

[swift swan]

Yes, OAR HE Aggra

[swift swan]

But also there is no one true preset

You will inevitably have to modify them depending on the stage and your team

[wide adder]

Do you think order will matter much with these teams? Decided I’m gonna try drasna since I pulled her from gladion banner

the two electric dps are 1/5, and gladion's 1/5 atm till i try him out

admittedly not really sure what sort of support would be optimal for gladion vs steel glacia, is LDawn fine or

[verbal karma]

Wait, you sure Raihan is a good idea for Glacia?

[wide adder]

Sentry x2 is... something. a thing.

[silver dirge]

Why would he not be?

[wide adder]

and raihans like one of the only steel special hitters still afaik

[verbal karma]

I don't remember how much recoil he takes from Steel Beam

It's been a long time since I last used him

[silver dirge]

And he would not be repeatedly recommended if he was not a good choice. You're underestimating SE x2 in relevance to your steel roster

[wide adder]

doesnt he have standfast 9 or whatever baked in

[verbal karma]

He does

[wide adder]

not too bad then

[silver dirge]

If you don't agree, try whatever you'd like and see if that works

[wide adder]

like 5%? if i remember the numbers

[verbal karma]

Oh, that's small recoil, I can handle that

Thanks

[wide adder]

iirc base recoil is 50% of user's hp

[verbal karma]

Yup

[wide adder]

so its pretty small with standfast

[verbal karma]

Okay, now I also gotta form a team for R4 Sidney...and also decide who I even wanna use for R2 Drake

...maybe Zerena for R2 Drake?????

...yeah, Zerena with Lucas and SS Brendan sounds good

Anyway, R4 Sidney needs a team still

Hmm...Bulurola, Burgh and...who?

[main crow]

Lol always forgot dragon weak Drake has acute sense bc majority of dragons just steamrolls him regardless 😭

[verbal karma]

What could this team be missing?

[wide adder]

do you not own gilbert, trin? i kinda just assumed you would own that ngl

[main crow]

Wouldn't burgh take too long buffing himself?

I'd probably bring someone who can help him buff spatk faster

[nocturne geyser]

Is there a recommended elite 4 per round order?

[rotund lagoon]

Gradual Healing param wants to have a word with you

[swift swan]

There's never a recommended round order, and this week's round params are pretty trivial

So just go based on your teams

[main crow]

It has been so long since I fickle with my parame I legit forgot that exists 😭

I'm sorry grad heal ur such a real one

[rotund lagoon]

So true bestie

[nocturne geyser]

I see, thanks

[rotund lagoon]

Btw, no synergy between those two, if you missed Kazu’s message
Get a Sp Atk/Crit Support for Burgh

[main crow]

I think Bulu is most likely there for the sun

But that's about it

[verbal karma]

...who's Gilbert?

[wide adder]

SS Hilbert & Genesect

[main crow]

SS Hilbert

[verbal karma]

Oh, I don't have Genesect, sadly

[verbal karma]

Correct

[main crow]

Brian David Gilbert from the hit YT series Unraveled

[verbal karma]

Bulu buffs Crit as well

[steel kelp]

Wasting a support for field effects instead of actual buffs

[main crow]

Sp.atk

[verbal karma]

and Burgh already buffs his own Sp. Atk

[main crow]

Yeah

And it takes him way too long

[steel kelp]

Yeah too long

[verbal karma]

Hmm...

[main crow]

Bringing someone who can ramp him up faster is the most ideal choice

[verbal karma]

But yeah, not having Genesect limits my options even more...

[rotund lagoon]

Ok but please remember basic needs for your damage dealer. The point is to reduce setup time, and Bulu only helps physical dealers, not special ones.

And idk what PMUN and Atk does for Burgh….other than basically nothing.

[verbal karma]

Well, here is one idea I have

Bulu's Sun powers up Lyra's buffs, which in turn help Burgh

[steel kelp]

That’s still long

[verbal karma]

Wait, how is that long?

[rotund lagoon]

Wait I spy SS Brendan. Why not use him?

[main crow]

Brendan is saved for drake

Said trin

[steel kelp]

With who

[main crow]

Zerena

[rotund lagoon]

With Zerena tho??????

[steel kelp]

Didn’t they say zerena

[rotund lagoon]

Why???

[keen jasper]

Can eggmon Perrserker and Magneton be able to pre-sync Glacia with YOLO params at 4k pts.?

[steel kelp]

Who does herself

[verbal karma]

Sun (Bulu) -> TM (Lyra) -> X Sp. Atk (Burgh) -> TM (Bulu) -> TM (Lyra) -> Burgh is already fully buffed

[rotund lagoon]

Zerena doesn’t need Latios in the slightest.

[verbal karma]

How is that slow?

[steel kelp]

4 turns to setup

We’ll really 5 because of sun

You don’t see how wasting more than half is slow

[main crow]

Say what's Brendan role exactly with Zerena?

[verbal karma]

...but I would waste only one turn less with SS Brendan?

[verbal karma]

Debuff Sp. Def

[main crow]

If it's debuffs I would probably go with Lucian

[verbal karma]

Oh

[main crow]

It's aoe and he buffs speed too

[verbal karma]

But Lucian isn't a support

[steel kelp]

That’s not the point

[rotund lagoon]

My team comp suggestion

Marley, Lucas, Zerena.

[main crow]

So? Zerena would demolish the stage pre sync I'm sure

[rotund lagoon]

If you have zone, no need for Lucian or debuffs.

[verbal karma]

Wait, I still wanna know how SS Brendan would be better for Burgh because I am not seeing it

[main crow]

I'm gonna assume it's so the debuffer support could start debuffing fairly early

[rotund lagoon]

SS Brendan is basically one click TM, then move to Luster Purge

Burgh is buffed first turn.

[verbal karma]

I mean, Burgh would be buffed before he does his second turn regardless...but yeah, don't really have a Sp. Def debuffer with the current Burgh team, so that might cause a problem...

[rotund lagoon]

SS Brendan fills that role.

And before you say “Oh she’s with Zerena”, I literally explained why he should not be on that team

[main crow]

Burgh can debuff too but I wouldn't rely too much on it

[silver dirge]

We've made the Burgh + SS Brendan team several times Trin, you should try and remember some of this

Burgh requires one of two supports for ideal set up & Brendan's one of them

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah, there genuinely should not be more for debate.

[verbal karma]

Okay, if SS Brendan is in the Burgh team, then I need to find a good replacement in the Zerena team

[rotund lagoon]

Marley.

[verbal karma]

...why Marley?

[silver dirge]

Zerena & Lucas will obliterate that stage regardless of support

[rotund lagoon]

Speed and TSE (Team Sharp Entry)

[silver dirge]

Marley's great yea

[rotund lagoon]

The best Zerena Support I can ever recommend, no EX required for her

[verbal karma]

Hmm...

I mean, my Marley actually is EX'd already, so might as well

[rotund lagoon]

Especially since she is a pair that gets 3/5 fairly easily

[rotund lagoon]

Do not sync with her, if that’s what you’re considering.

[main crow]

Is your Zerena caked?

Regardless yes or no Zerena gets sync priority either way

[rotund lagoon]

Was about to say lmao

[wide adder]

yeah zerena form flip is 100x more important to her than a sync buff tbh

even at 1/5

[rotund lagoon]

And that is all, Your Honor

[steel kelp]

I should be fine next week right

[silver dirge]

Looks pretty good

[swift swan]

That NC Nate team is gonna have so much fun with stat +3 nd stat -3 params

[wide adder]

ah yes,

https://tenor.com/view/max-fosh-uno-reverse-uno-uno-reverse-card-football-gif-15997104819716648222

the best strat, uno reverse the params on the opponent

would love to have a team capable of that myself

has anyone tested -3 x6 stats with SS Gladion btw? does he apply it to the enemies?

or does it not count as applied by the enemy team?

phones ded rn so cant test it myself

nvm, found answer in research channel, it reflects onto mid!

[silver dirge]

Your sides will be debuffed but yea

[wide adder]

useful info for if youre running like impervious sides or something like that

pretty goofy way to save on bulk tbh

...i wonder if theres an impervious tank that can lower spatk... cause if there is one, i actually might mess with it for my gladion team instead of LDawn

[trail smelt]

Glacia and Sydney didn’t give me as much trouble as I expected

As long as I used the right parameters anyway

[wide adder]

ncblue exists but hes in use on gilbert team so far

[wide adder]

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week and for my brand spanking new SS Gladion to wipe the floor with Sidney lol

[wide adder]

lol im using ssgladion on glacia this week so i dont gotta worry about SEx2 steel

cause his kit seems plenty strong enough to offtype

[verbal karma]

...nope, Raihan is unable to beat R3 Glacia

even if I beat the mid, the sides would then start spamming Blizzard

[sick inlet]

Noooo

[verbal karma]

and that's a huge "if" because beating Glacia before she syncs is not a guarantee either

[silver dirge]

Team?

[verbal karma]

Hilbert/Leaf/Raihan

[silver dirge]

What is Hilbert doing

[verbal karma]

Speed buffs and finishing Raihan's Atk and Crit buffs

[silver dirge]

Raihan is a special attacker

What do you need attack buffs for

[wide adder]

[verbal karma]

...oh yeah, he's Sp. Atk

I forgor 💀

Well, Hilbert still buffs speed and crit

[silver dirge]

This is basic teambuilding you need to get the hang of this before you do anything really

Raihan also does +2 crit and Leaf has crit squad

[verbal karma]

my Leaf doesn't have Crit Squad

[silver dirge]

Is she 1/5?

[verbal karma]

No

[silver dirge]

Then?

[wide adder]

please tell me you are paying attention to leafs grid expansion trin.

[verbal karma]

...I never even knew she had a grid expansion...

[wide adder]

no wonder

[verbal karma]

Oh joy, a new problem arose

I dunno what panel to sacrifice for Critical Squad

[silver dirge]

If you can't grasp these basics after all this time we're not going to expect any of the helpers to spoon feed you CS help btw, so I strongly recommend learning those

[verbal karma]

Bruh, I usually CAN grasp the basics

Today is just...not my day, I guess

[silver dirge]

No, this is not the first time. This repeats almost every week. Sometimes it'll be mismatched supports or not buffing your damage dealers, they're all fundamentals

[wide adder]

yeah... no offense but youre needing basic-level help most weeks from what ive seen

[verbal karma]

Aw, come on

[wide adder]

woulda imagined would stick by now

[verbal karma]

It's not THAT frequent

[silver dirge]

It is. And a prerequisite for 3k CSMM

Anyhow, hopefully you'll try and improve

I've given you a Leaf grid above

[verbal karma]

Welp, tried with a new team, with an updated Leaf grid, and I am somehow doing even worse now than before 😦

[silver dirge]

What's the 3rd team member now?

[verbal karma]

Rosa

[silver dirge]

Did you use the grid I showed you?

What is Rosa doing there now?

[lean lion]

Glacia with 10% chance to freeze, freezes almost everytime.

Me with 80% chance to crit with sync, miss 4 in a row.

[silver dirge]

It do be like that

[verbal karma]

It's close enough, right?

[lean lion]

Finally found the perfect params to presync and i keep missing the crit

[verbal karma]

buff Sp. Atk and ALSO fill up gauge alongside Leaf

Wait

I missed Ramped Up

Fuck

I am blind

[silver dirge]

At least copy the grid correctly that's incredibly simple man

Take Rosa out, replace her with Lucian

That solves your speed problem & provides spDef debuffs for more damage

[verbal karma]

Apparently not that simple if you're as blind as me... 😦

[silver dirge]

[verbal karma]

Hmm...maybe I would rather want buffed defenses instead? After all, Leaf takes entirely too much damage from 95% of all attacks in that battle

[lean lion]

Is it worth it to replace Winona with another support maybe Melony for sp def buffs and sleep?

I'm able to KO mid presync no problem but the Blizzard spam from sides is tough to survive without some sort of interference

This is R4 Glacia btw with SS Blue, Cerena and Winona

First 3 battles were easy 3k. Glacia though...

Now I know what y'all were saying before. Should have been more scared lol.

[silver dirge]

Flinches from Winona aren't working out?

[lean lion]

Too unreliable and Winona is dead most of the time from Blizzards already

[silver dirge]

I see, and you've got Aggravation on her grid?

[lean lion]

Wait lemme check

If I don't I'm stupid

Okay i didn't. Gridded her a long time ago when poor on orbs.

Gonna try it with aggravation now

[silver dirge]

it happens

Lemi know if you still struggle we can try come up with an alternative

[lean lion]

Going a lot better now

If it can deny crucial Blizzards before KOing mid its doable

[silver dirge]

double the chance will do that

[sinful heron]

Ok so what params do people use for 3k offtype?

Glacia is proving impossible when I don't have a special steel option

Tried a kitbash of original params but SS Steven got hit for 2.5k off first action blizzard so that won't work

[old orchid]

if you dont have zone and strong physical Steel units, its better to offtype

[sinful heron]

Yeah no my steel struggles without having to hack through sentry x2

Solgaleo just does not work

Even with zone

[old orchid]

what team and params did you try with Solgaleo?

[sinful heron]

Hop and pal marnie

My usual params for physical

One sec while I pull a list

Both screens, atk/spatk 1, no status, no int, strength 1, sync buff, atk/spatk 3 or hp 2, half healing, no stat drops, special damage reduction, gradual healing, power up on hit 1, power up on hit 2, strength 2, strength 3, strength 6, -2 gauge, standard damage reduction

Steel's just reliably a problem team for me bc most of my steel offense is rubbish (solgaleo) and my main steel backfill is SS Gio, who I need for the champion fight

[old orchid]

i would replace Hop with a support who can buff spdef reliably

[sinful heron]

I don't have anyone with that iirc

And besides, hop sets up for Marnie

It needs both of them on damage

And even then it's not enough

Maybe if I try grimono...

[old orchid]

yeah Krimsley has better nuke, try him out then

[sinful heron]

Yeah no he gets massacred by the blizzard

I think offtype will be mandatory, the damage is just absent

[old orchid]

can you show your supports?

[sinful heron]

But the blizzard oneshots ss steven who's like, my only special dps who can offtype

[old orchid]

there are tons of spdef buffers with offensive buffing

[old orchid]

NC Bede, SS Blue, BP Clemont, SSA Cynthia... i can see some solid options here

[sinful heron]

SS Blue has no reliable spdef buffing

And he got threeshot last time

[old orchid]

can try SS Kris + SS Steven + a Psychic Terrain setter like Bianca or Anni May

[sinful heron]

Maybe

Could always try kris and nc serena and see if there's wiggle room in offtype params for stat drops

[old orchid]

what move level is your NC Serena? if she is 3/5 it should be an easy clear

[sinful heron]

3

But I don't have the wiggle room to turn stat drops on

[brave halo]

How tf was raihan intended for this like seriously

[old orchid]

you can add max hp 2 according to your parameters earlier

[sinful heron]

Yeah but that's max HP and atkspatk 3 if I take standard damage reduction off

Offtyping gives me zero wiggle room

[old orchid]

pick atk spatk 5 then

and pray for least aoe spam as posible

you can even remove no interference and add a flincher

[sinful heron]

I doubt I can rely on that, blizzard on 3 was oneshotting the non supports

First action too

Bianca and steven both imploded

No crits, just like 2k damage

[old orchid]

how about using flinch/sleep to stall them?

do you have SS Lyra?

[verbal karma]

Hmm...add a Sp. Def debuffer to hopefully ensure the opponents go down swiftly or add a Sp. Def buffer to hopefully ensure Leaf's survivability?

[silver dirge]

Try it and see if it works

[brave halo]

OK finally damn needed Cerena to help me with glacia cause ugh raihan couldn't keep power that well with mix red and solgaleo/colress was useless

[verbal karma]

If I could, I would have added someone who can do both

But sadly, I think only SS Brendan can do that, and I was told to save him for Burgh

[silver dirge]

Again, try and see if it works. I've given you a specific suggestion on what to do already so I expect you to try it before asking for further help - otherwise we just go in circles

[verbal karma]

Okay okay

[sick inlet]

Oh i didn't start cs

[sinful heron]

No SS Lyra sadly

[silver dirge]

I'm trying to cook up a silly theme for mine

[sinful heron]

And my poison stall just doesn't seem to work since the 3k shunt

I might just have to bite the points loss

[sick inlet]

my theme is kill Sidney

[silver dirge]

Poison stall works fine at 3k, just gotta have the right params & team

[sinful heron]

I can't find working params that don't give them strength up

[silver dirge]

You're going to need to give them strength

[sinful heron]

Yeah

[silver dirge]

The ones you avoid are attack & power on hit

[sinful heron]

I have to give them the atkspatk 1 on current params too, and -1 sync cd

Just not enough other nodes

[silver dirge]

There's the issue

Are you giving them all defense?

[sinful heron]

Max def, max HP

[silver dirge]

Crit defense, grad heal

[verbal karma]

Welp, I tried with Lucian

[sinful heron]

Max damage reduction yeah

Gradual Heal I try to have off bc the team is Not Good

[verbal karma]

Sadly, his Sp. Def debuffs are NOT enough for Raihan to beat the sides

[sinful heron]

Janine/Janine/Lucy

[silver dirge]

You should have grad heal on always, it wears off eventually and poison takes care of it

[sinful heron]

I might see if Elaine works better

Grad heal outheals the poison and trap damage

[silver dirge]

If you put that into CD or Attack they'll hit hard/sync more

[sinful heron]

On this stage at least

[silver dirge]

It scales over time, just gotta play the long game

[sinful heron]

And this set has both

[silver dirge]

And yes, Elaine would be awesome

[verbal karma]

Also, I am not seeing Raihan survive the Blizzard spam regardless of if I buff his Sp. Def or not

So in other words: I am just...screwed at this point

[silver dirge]

Might be time to reduce some points

[verbal karma]

No

[dense birch]

Man glacia hits like a bloody truck lol

[silver dirge]

Then good luck

[silver dirge]

She does

[verbal karma]

Reducing the points would defeat the point of why I am doing the CS in the first place

[dense birch]

Also i am doing her R4 and i can’t seem to quadqueue against her. Relying on side denial but i don’t have a good comp for dealing with her damage

[old orchid]

Might throw in the cheat code for my 4k offtype challenge

[dense birch]

Maybe i’ll just have to clear this round with below 12.5k pts and redo glacia with melony

[lean lion]

What team are you using?

[dense birch]

Solgaleo, colress, and a tank

[silver dirge]

You're aware of sentry entry x2 right?

[dense birch]

I am but i don’t have feasible offtype or steel special options

[sinful heron]

Ok so my poison stall is still falling flT

Poison/trap damage just isn't outramping the gradual healing and everyone dies after like two syncs

[silver dirge]

You're doing badly poison right?

Debuffing offenses, buffing your defenses?

[sinful heron]

Yeah

[verbal karma]

...at this point, I am starting to wonder if I am better off using Solgaleo despite Sentry Entry...

[sinful heron]

Lucy for BP/Wrap, Janine for venom drench, Elaine for sustain

Except there isn't enough sustain

[silver dirge]

Hmm the team is fine

[sinful heron]

Elaine is only 1/5 though

[silver dirge]

Try it, see if it works.

Ah

I was under the impression she was 3/5 someone else posted their's earlier

[sinful heron]

Between that and the sustain being a bit crap, I either take half health at start or st2, and then either half healing or st1

No combination is working

[dense birch]

I am trying this and i’ve had more success with it than with an offtype special

[sinful heron]

I might just crack the gold candies and throw elaine to 3/5 and hope the grid has enough sustain to keep her kicking

[manic mica]

Has anyone defeated Glacia?

3k?

[verbal karma]

Okay, Solgaleo team it is then

[old orchid]

Candying someone before anni is not the best move tbh

Have you tried other options like BP Morty?

[sinful heron]

Not enough healing for the long haul I don't think

[old orchid]

He has Synchro Healing and Potion

[sinful heron]

Yeah with how often blizzard gets spammed, that ain't enough

He'd need obscene potion mpr procs

[manic mica]

Glacia is so annoying

[undone ether]

I... hate.... Glacia....

[sinful heron]

Plus evasion strats don't work vs glacia so my usual fallbacks don't work

[undone ether]

Sst red was against phoebe

7 sync buff......

[sinful heron]

You got to seven against that?

[undone ether]

Yes...

[sinful heron]

I've only seen seven sync buffs in like, legend arena

[undone ether]

I tried like

Poison stall

Ball guy and ss leaf couldnt do it ;-;

[sinful heron]

I'm on the poison stall phase atm

[undone ether]

I tried ontype

[sinful heron]

Ontype is laughable here

[undone ether]

Raihan could kill the side

Problem is

Despite having -6 sp atk, she hits hard ugh

[sinful heron]

Yeah

[undone ether]

I didnt even put ark buffs either, she still wrecks

[sinful heron]

Fuck it, 3/5 for elaine.

I need this I think.

[undone ether]

I also tried elaine

Thats a 5/5 gloria rite?

[trail smelt]

1/5

[undone ether]

Damn

That just sounds like cutting it close

[trail smelt]

Let me check

Not really but needed hop MPR I think

[sick inlet]

With the power of friendship!
||Absolutely not because sides got Para'd every single time||

[sinful heron]

Hellfire

[manic mica]

Which parameters?

[trail smelt]

Hold on

[lean lion]

Came one water shuriken away from the beating Glacia just now

Winona lands the flinch and it was over

[tardy belfry]

@undone ether sry for the tag, do you have oleana and ss brendan? I used it with raihan and it works (post sync)

[verbal karma]

Nope, it's even worse with Solgaleo

Can't beat with Solgaleo, can't beat with Raihan

Who even can I beat R3 Glacia with at this point?

[manic mica]

Which paramaters y’all used for Glacia

[sinful heron]

Tell you when I beat the wazzock

[trail smelt]

That’s the one

No zone lol

[sick inlet]

||Colress and Jirachi||

[undone ether]

No oleana so ;-;

[trail smelt]

R3 is just faster gauge right?

[undone ether]

Damn. Steven's packing hum

[tardy belfry]

r3 saved me with mgr

don't mind the phoebe team

[undone ether]

Problem with r3 glacia is she goes for blizzard

A lot

[tardy belfry]

oleana helped a lot with spatk down and bad poison as subdps

[trail smelt]

I used this team haha

[trail smelt]

Ohh yeah that would make it harder

Blizzard spam is the devil

[undone ether]

So i went with r4 with two rats and a singer

[old orchid]

Parameters depend on your team completely

[tardy belfry]

well tbf my ss brendan is 2/5 so the potion mpr was nice

[undone ether]

I really should get weathered warrior for garchomp though

Maybe next time if i can fish glacia

Err fish for oleana

[tardy belfry]

oleana is really versatile for anything outside of poison weak

[silver dirge]

For those of you struggling with Solgaleo, he can do it with a decent physical support + defense debuffer, Colress is ideal but others should work with some tweaking

If you have Aaron, you can afford Half Ally HP and go for Heal Order turn 1

[manic mica]

Okay I finally beat Glacia

[undone ether]

Like sc steven + solgaleo + pal marnie?

[manic mica]

So had to use

[tardy belfry]

that could work

[manic mica]

SC Steven, Rose and SS Brendan

[undone ether]

Problem will be

[silver dirge]

Well that should obliterate it lol, I'm trying to keep it as accessible as possible

[undone ether]

Blizzards at full power

[manic mica]

Blizzard is so annoying

[undone ether]

Amen to that ugh

[manic mica]

But try

To beat her pre sync

[undone ether]

I cleared vs already ;-;

[tardy belfry]

quickly spammed oleana gmax and venom drench to save myself from more blizzard chaos

[manic mica]

Go all out hehehe

[undone ether]

Ash didnt even kill with 6 sync buffs

[tardy belfry]

who did you used for phoebe?

[tardy belfry]

ohh so you have both sstr and ash haha

[undone ether]

Flinch + Paralyze lets go

[silver dirge]

[tardy belfry]

that 5 sync buffs though

even with holiday jasmine

[silver dirge]

How do you need 5 sync buffs to kill phoebe with the strongest damage dealing pair in the game, on-type

[undone ether]

Hp + levels levels

[silver dirge]

You're still running defense params aren't you

[tardy belfry]

whatever works

[undone ether]

No def buffs

Just pure hp and levels

[silver dirge]

You know what, I'm impressed

Well done

[undone ether]

For the glacia foght

There was 1 def buff

[silver dirge]

1 is fine

It's 3 & 5 that you should never even think about

[undone ether]

I figured ash could drop her adter 4 ex sync buffs

[tardy belfry]

I stack one def/spdef 50 points for glacia too don't worry

[undone ether]

But she took 65k to the face and still alive

[sinful heron]

Yeah Hoenn CS is the worst

[tardy belfry]

r3 params saved my raihan lots of burdens

[undone ether]

Anywho gonna uploading my clears. Time to brandish on the ebe

[sinful heron]

I can't handle Glacia or Sidney

[silver dirge]

You have Pal Marnie right? & a powerboosted EX solgaleo?

[sinful heron]

SS Hilbert's EX sync bounced off of him for like 2k

With 2 sync boosts

Malarkey

And yeah

[silver dirge]

Do you want me to record a clear for you?

[sinful heron]

I doubt I'll have time to watch it till after work and I'll probably have forgotten

I'll see if the MGA buff helps ontype that

I was doing it second before

[undone ether]

Oh if you do a solgalek
O + palmarnie clear, i want in as well

For next time

[silver dirge]

I'll do one with colress & one with Pal Marnie, whoever can benefit off of it can copy

[dense birch]

I got it!! Only 2.5k tho

[silver dirge]

Nicely done!

Is your Solgaleo powerboosted?

[sinful heron]

Ok Solgaleo might be able to do it but I need a better tank

Time to hope SSAC can actually be useful for once

[old orchid]

She should be

[sick inlet]

She's always useful

[sinful heron]

Not really

She's a good hit-taker but that's about it

Her bond move is too unreliable

And without that she's largely just there for maxing defenses and crit

But, it works so

Solgaleo/Pal Marnie/SSAC has eventually scraped the win

Now for Sidney

And to figure out why SS Hilbert isn't doing enough damage

[verbal karma]

I do not have Jirachi

[silver dirge]

Solgaleo + Colress can do it, bring Sonia and fish for flinches

[tardy belfry]

the only good options for special steel are raihan, summer tate and variety thorton yea?

[mortal dirge]

How to beat the metagross?

[sick inlet]

Bring a debuffer, because he will keep buffing his defenses

Per hit

[old orchid]

Courtney + a decent Ground dmg dealer should beat Steven

[old orchid]

Probably parameters issue

[sinful heron]

Nah his regular DPS was doing fine

The sync just whiffed for like 2k

[mortal dirge]

Im using that but won’t happen

[silver dirge]

Something's very off there

1/5 Hilbert?

[sinful heron]

I think it just didn't crit

1/5 ex

Bc normal ones were hitting for 6k ish iirc

[silver dirge]

Yeah the tech EX sync should be quite decent with the innate

[sinful heron]

But sync just hit for like 2k

[silver dirge]

You're debuffing spDef right?

[dense birch]

Yes

[sinful heron]

No, can't afford the stat drop node

[silver dirge]

Well there's the problem lol

[sinful heron]

It takes 4 techno blasts to get him as low as it does

[silver dirge]

You need to actually fulfil the sync condition for it to do damage

[sinful heron]

I don't have the output to debuff spdef and get him to the point for the sync to kill

[silver dirge]

Bring an external debuffer

[manic kiln]

Do you need ssa cynthia for anything, glacia hits hard so you probably need 2 supports

[sinful heron]

Can't

I have sycamore and aaron for buffing

And survival, mostly

[silver dirge]

What is Aaron even doing there

[sinful heron]

Crit buffs and def buffs

And panick heal order if needed

It is usually needed

[steel kelp]

Sycamore is the worst

[sinful heron]

Sycamore is ex supp and maxes speed and spatk, it's enough

[dense birch]

Sycamore gets nuked by t2 flash cannon

[sinful heron]

Never seen sidney pull flash cannon

[old orchid]

You would get better results with Hilbert + another Bug type

[steel kelp]

You’re damage dealer is sitting through a cycle not doing anything

[silver dirge]

I'll just say you can't expect your damage dealers to go very far if you don't teambuild around their multipliers, outside of that it's up to you

[dense birch]

Oh sidney. I thought glacia

[sinful heron]

Usually setting up rebuff

And then himself a bit

[verbal karma]

I don't know...maybe for R5?

I am predicting that R5 is gonna cause trouble as well

Because my Ground type options are ALSO limited

[manic kiln]

Not needed champion is easier than e4

Try this

Reset if they spam blizzard

[verbal karma]

Wait, what does Lodge Dawn do?

[manic kiln]

Speed buff

And some sp atk debuff

[verbal karma]

Oh

Wouldn't Sp. Def debuff make more sense, though?

[manic kiln]

You don’t need it but if you want sure

With smun from cynthia dmg is not a problem

[verbal karma]

You're underestimating how weak Raihan is

[manic kiln]

Mine is 1/5

[silver dirge]

He ... cleared it right there

[verbal karma]

Mine is also 1/5

[manic kiln]

And he 1shot sides

You can use lucian instead of dawn if you want

[verbal karma]

Welp, tried that team, and I still can't win

At this point, I feel like I am just not allowed to win...

[verbal karma]

Sadly, he does not

[sinful heron]

Ok so it turns out sycamore is nowhere near tanky enough for this shit

[manic kiln]

What was the problem, just try again

[verbal karma]

Him not oneshotting the sides

He can't kill the sides faster than they can kill him

[manic kiln]

Parameters

At worst you 2 shot them, and in my run cynthia still has 2 potions left

[verbal karma]

Sadly, two shotting is already too slow

and SSA Cynthia can't heal fast enough

[manic kiln]

Params are good, just try again, reset if they use 2 blizzards, nothing else you can do

[nocturne pawn]

glacia is always reset heavy cuz icy wind and blizzard will just chunk

[manic kiln]

If you can’t even survive with the tankiest support just reduce point

[nocturne pawn]

not to mention ppe2 so you cant even do any evasion strats

[rigid flint]

Trin, not to be a bummer but what team did you use the last time for steel weak Glacia?

[manic kiln]

Last time was 2.5k so probably won’t work for 3k offtype is another option

[rigid flint]

True, but could try tweaking the previous team a tiny bit

[sinful heron]

Ok yeah sidney is pushing my shit in

Sycamore can't tank and no one is bulky enough to tank and cover gauge

I burnt SS Blue earlier, think on drake

[rigid flint]

What’s your team?

[manic kiln]

take off 1 str and replace with half MP, should be enough to 1 shot sides now
and remember to use dawn sp atk buff 1 time to max raihan sp atk

[sinful heron]

Atm, Sycamore, SS Hilbert (1/5 ex) and NC Leaf for debuffs

Sycamore usually dies before my second sync

Probably bc I can't afford to have both stat drops and full healing

[old orchid]

you need a physical buffer there

Sycamore doesnt help with that

[sinful heron]

I tried that, didn't work

Tried it with aaron and he died all the same

[old orchid]

SS Blue works nicely, and i know him + 3/5 Burgh + SS Hilbert is a confirmed working team

[sinful heron]

So I went to debuffing atk

SS Blue went on tanking Drake

Outrage kinda just went through everyone else

[old orchid]

you even have Champion Bede

and ofc, Sonia and SS Morty

[sinful heron]

And I can't reduce attack params bc then I don't have enough output to get through the replacement params

NC Bede is not a tank lmao

Buffer, yes

He tanks like drywall

And these fuckers have sledgehammers

[verbal karma]

I don't remember 😦

[old orchid]

NC Bede is a tank, wdym?

[sinful heron]

Check the hall of fame

Should have it saved

[old orchid]

i only have him at 1/5 and he tanked at 3k CSMM just fine

[sinful heron]

Mine usually almost dies and that's to lesser CS stages

He anchors my flying team largely

He has no healing, awful defensive buff generation and average bulk

[old orchid]

you cant call one of the bulkies supports a bad tank

his bulkiness is enough for any decent dmg dealer to finish their job

and with grid you can speed up his defense buffing by a bit

[halcyon sail]

Recup 2

[old orchid]

that too

[halcyon sail]

And I think the highest hp for supports

At least in the top

[old orchid]

879 / 347 / 357 is absolute NO joke

[sinful heron]

Chunked through with Sycamore

Had to swap atk/spatk 3 for half MP

Turns out 1 and 3 atk/spatk up makes sidney really fucking hard

Now for Steven

And hopefully SS Gio will turn him into a victory lap

[verbal karma]

When was the last time Steel-weak Glacia showed up?

Nevermind, found it

...how the hell did I win with Solgaleo/Gloria/SC Jasmine?

[manic kiln]

2.5k is easier, probably post-sync too, that team won't work for 3k

just try what i said above, remove 1 str and pick half mp

[sinful heron]

Yeah SS Gio/Courtney made Steven a freebie

Why is the champion so often the freebie and the worst lies in the e4

It's usually the bloody grannies too

Bertha and Glacia

[left storm]

Gloria is good for high points because of doubled DPS post sync can lead to some very cool runs even Vs sentry entry

[verbal karma]

...I used that team for pre-sync, though

None of my completed battles are post-sync because I can never beat anyone post-sync (not counting poison stall, of course)

[manic kiln]

Kek i just post-sync with solgaleo

[lean lion]

R4 Glacia 3k run with 1/5 Cerena, 1/5 SS Blue and Winona. Flinch FTW thanks @silver dirge !!

[lean lion]

Params, STR 6 not in screenshot (just noticed it is in the first screenshot)

[silver dirge]

nicely done!

[sick inlet]

Good run

[lean lion]

Tysm Jo

This was way too much fun. Flinch can do some crazy things.

[pseudo drum]

I am up against Glacia r2 but can't beat her
It's been some time I haven't sweated on a steel stage
Since I got Rose2/5 ig
(should I 3/5 him, I hoped to spend it on gladion if I get him)

[swift swan]

sentry entry x2 can do that

[pseudo drum]

Bad ig

[manic kiln]

1/5 rose is enough, you need heavy support tho, gauge, def down, and maybe zone too

[left storm]

Just use eggmon perserker

Duh

If you have a striker one

It's a free dub

[pseudo drum]

I am kinda bad with eggmons

[pseudo drum]

I was planning on saving my op supports

I was using hop

[manic kiln]

Hop doesn't help much, you need speed buff, -def, and maybe some PMUN if not using zone

[rain turret]

I used hop on phoebe with sst red and nemona
Im trying 1/5 rose, skyla and colress to glacia

[nova stag]

Damm my bug and steel type roster sucks. I have SS Hilbert but he was struggling a lot that I ended up switching off standard damage reduction. TBF I could’ve paired him with Burgh and hoped for bug buzz drops

Steel tho my only special steel type was 1/5 Raihan. Wish Riley was special striker with aura sphere and flash canon

[pseudo drum]

I knew my day won't be wonderful when I used up Cloress with SSTRed on Phoebe

[old orchid]

SS Hilbert + Burgh shouldnt struggle at all tho

dw, Rose doesnt need Colress' help

but i dont think that team will work at 3k

[nova stag]

Maybe I just have a bad grid

[pseudo drum]

Any suggestions for who to put with 2/5 Rose

[old orchid]

do you have any pairs that fulfill Lost's recommendations?

[manic kiln]

you can also try rose + kimono grimsley + registeel/speed support
dual dps is good for this stage

metal burst should take down 50% of her HP

[pseudo drum]

Grimsley doesn't survive but he may survive with spd+6 and mb is pretty good

I got nc rosa for support

Planning on saving her

[manic kiln]

you need a run with no blizzard for grimsley

or at least not early in the run

[pseudo drum]

Well I can try my luck (which ain't the best)

Gotta try tho

Thanks

[manic kiln]

It’s doable

[pseudo drum]

Whoaw

MB needs a little timing, may take a few tries

[left storm]

You just need a spa + crit buffer

[old orchid]

and a good tank to keep it not to die

[left storm]

Eggmons my beloved

[left storm]

The spa + crit buff is implied there

[manic kiln]

5 star eggmons

[left storm]

Not even, raichu is 4*

[old orchid]

i dont see it, especially with Glacia spamming aoe

[left storm]

Perrserker is 5* 0/20

[old orchid]

do you expect Torchic helps keeping Perrserker alive?

[left storm]

That pers screenshot is from bertha who also spams AoE

[old orchid]

i didnt talk about the screenshot tho

[left storm]

Haven't seen anyone running torchic in years

Out of fire hse

[lean lion]

Gakon I got 3k on Glacia!!!

[old orchid]

[lean lion]

Sorry I thought I turned it off

[old orchid]

nah you did

[left storm]

It was @ me

[pseudo drum]

Should I 3/5 him?

[left storm]

Anyway, perss good

[manic kiln]

if you like him, but mine was 1/5

[pseudo drum]

Okey dokey

No

[old orchid]

its not recommended to candy anyone if you dont know what do they get

[pseudo drum]

Okidogi

[left storm]

Registeel is good for a bp

And you have 4 tickets

[pseudo drum]

Yep saved em

[left storm]

But yeah I'd only use them if you're sure

I 3/5d Dana

[pseudo drum]

Okidogi

[left storm]

Because she's the best BP 5*

But you can definitely save, it's never a bad idea

Once a resource is gone, it's gone

[pseudo drum]

True

It really worked
EXK Grimsley op

[manic kiln]

grats

[austere oyster]

What is the best way to post my roster here for help with building teams? I beat Drake with SS Leaf, Xerneas, and Palkia but otherwise, I’m stuck…

I have like 5 screenshots saved but I’ve seen some cleaner looking posts higher up and don’t want anyone to have to wade through that many pics if I can help it.

[old orchid]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[old orchid]

you can use this site to show your roster, be sure to watch the tutorial video first

[austere oyster]

I’ll have to fiddle with that at home, I guess. It’s really unwieldy to swap between my photos and the site on an iPhone. 😂

[verbal karma]

Was able to beat R3 Glacia with the Raihan team

But now I have trouble with R4 Sidney 😦

I can beat mid and left side, but I can't beat the right side no matter what

Double Edge just...insta-kills anything it touches

But so does the AoE on the left side, and that one is AoE, so naturally, I gotta prioritize that one

I should have known that Burgh is not gonna work for this, he sucks

[mellow linden]

Burgh does not suck

You having issues using a Sync Pair does not mean the Sync Pair is bad

What’s the team?

[verbal karma]

SS Brendan, SS Acerola and Burgh

[mellow linden]

And Burgh’s grid?

[verbal karma]

SS Brendan: buffing Sp. Atk and debuffing Sp. Def on top of being MG friendly and having potions
SS Acerola: setting up Sun, fully buffing Crit, not spending much MG
Burgh: buffs the last two Sp. Atk that SS Brendan couldn't buff, then spams Bug Buzz

[swift swan]

what are the params

[silver dirge]

You don't need OAR when you've got SS Brendan

pick up SDE3

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that

[mellow linden]

There’s about a billion different factors to examine before you just up and blame the Sync Pair itself

[swift swan]

is that strength 11

[mellow linden]

Str 12

[swift swan]

well no wonder

you're giving sidney 37.9k HP

[mellow linden]

The main issue they’re having is the right side after center gets KOed

Superduper Effective will probably have at least some level of impact

[swift swan]

try with SDE3 and if you don't get close, we tweak those params

[main crow]

Fairy team is going to be so fun with the stats parameters

[silver dirge]

So much stat stealing

[main crow]

stat stealing, debuff reflecting and debuff wipe 🤤

[verbal karma]

Tried, still not working

[mellow linden]

If parameter adjustment doesn’t result in anything you could probably try throwing a couple Bug Buzzes at the sides before center gets KOed

Would make cleanup easier

[swift swan]

let's adjust the params slightly, then

take off strength 1, pick up Attack 1 and Interference Immunity

do you need interference at all?

[verbal karma]

alright, did just that

and I am STILL getting the same results

can beat mid, can beat left, but right still insta-kills everyone with Double Edge

at this point, I feel like the only way to win with this team is to EX Burgh...but that requires me to EX Burgh JUST for this battle, and I don't really like Burgh

[swift swan]

how much did your sync do on mid?

[verbal karma]

enough to kill the mid

while the mid had just a little over 50% HP left

[swift swan]

hmmm

do you know the numbers

[verbal karma]

...I forgot the numbers

and I don't really wanna check again

[swift swan]

well i want to know if your sync is enough to KO mid without you having to DPS it down

so you can focus on DPSing sides

[silver dirge]

How else is nov supposed to help you

[swift swan]

can't really help if you're not cooperating

[verbal karma]

I would cooperate if it wouldn't require me to suffer through so much RNG just to get to that point again

[swift swan]

🙄

let's remove a bit more strength, then?

[silver dirge]

That's an issue on your end, there's nothing we can do about that. If you want help, you provide the info requested and do the things advised

[verbal karma]

hold on, am checking the numbers after all

[lean lion]

It it done!!! Turned to old reliable toxic stall against Steven.

Sorry sent the wrong screenshots before

[swift swan]

good to know bugsy + noland worked for 3k

[lean lion]

Yeah took a few retries but they were able to pre sync with quad queue

I had hella fun using Noland

[silver dirge]

Now if Bugsy & Noland work ..

[lean lion]

That's a complete f2p clear

[verbal karma]

why can Seed Bomb almost insta-kill?!

I hate Champion Stadium

[swift swan]

you're tanking with ss brendan i assume

[manic kiln]

Bugsy Noland always work

[swift swan]

sidney has high offenses

[verbal karma]

well, yeah, gotta make use of his Freevenge

[swift swan]

was checking ss acerola's defenses but it's lower than brendan, nvm

so yeah, seed bomb almost always insta kills with presync stages

hate to break it to you but 3k CSMM is full of RNG

[silver dirge]

Did you account for Team Verdant Physical DR

Oh that applies to both of them anyway ignore that

[swift swan]

wait but that also explains why seed bomb hits hard

[silver dirge]

LOL

[swift swan]

grassy terrain

yeah sorry trin you gotta reset if sidney ever uses it

[keen jasper]

[verbal karma]

Sidney uses it 50% of the time 😦

and the other 40% of the time, Snarl gets spammed alongside a successful Iron Tail...a Snarl that critted Burgh

[silver dirge]

Nothing we can do about that either

[verbal karma]

...at this point, I will NEVER reach the point where I can sync the mid

[lean lion]

Can you record your run and send it here?

[silver dirge]

Replace SS Acerola with someone like Blaine or your next best sun setter

Then you're not being hit by a terrain boosted Seed Bomb

Also just to make sure, you do have Team Sharp Entry gridded on Brendan, right?

If you're replacing Acerola you're going to need that crit buff

[swift swan]

When you sync with Burgh, make sure

• Sidney is at -6 sp def
• Sun is up
• Burgh is at +6 sp atk or as much as possible -- the Snarl will hurt, I know

[raw halo]

^^

[loud stratus]

I don't remember Glacia ever being this strong. She two-shotted Xerneas with 2 shadow balls.

[verbal karma]

That would require me to actually GET a good run

[loud stratus]

1/5 duraludon kinda sucks

Pushing through sentry entry x2 with 5/5 solgaleo was easier than going special with 1/5 duraludon

[verbal karma]

Sadly, that's already too slow for me: I need the fully buffed crit pretty much instantly...

[verbal karma]

22,733

There you go

[rotund lagoon]

Having the Max Crit buffed on Brendan is a must, Trin. Think about why that is being recommended to you.

[verbal karma]

again, the Crit is being maxed with SS Acerola

it's why I have to keep her

[rotund lagoon]

Except the Helpers explained to you why that is doing more harm than good. Plus there are loads of other options.

[verbal karma]

SS Acerola is the only sun setter who can buff crit, though