thorn citrus
idk why it doesnt show the separators
#Champion Stadium
undone ether
For move levels, hold tap to increase them.
same for their rarity, hold tap on their rarity.
If you're on PC, Right click over their move level or rarity.
wide adder
Definitely. Even f2p can
wide adder
Yes I’ve been using solgaleo hop on 3k. Just needs a way to squeeze second sync
undone ether
I also use Solgaleo against Steel Weak Bertha o/
wide adder
Whether it be flinch, sync accel like sstred max countdown 3, or otherwise
Sync with hop then solgaleo
cold lake
flinch? 
wide adder
With right params solga nuke should kill
cold lake
i was doing 18k sync
...maybe half enemy hp 
wide adder
You just have to deny turns or accel +3
wide adder
i was doing 18k sync
...maybe half enemy hp <:SeleneLul:611382187711004672>
Are you using hop suppex sync first?
old orchid
#1011173305702690876 message nov has a video on triple Ground weak team
cold lake
Are you using hop suppex sync first?
no didn't use Hop
wide adder
Do that
sharp willow
Support EX is a really good thing
wide adder
As long as you can either delay Bertha sync by turn denial or sync accel yourself ahead a cycle you’ll win on solgaleo sync
With two sync buffs
cold lake
what if i just tank sync?
wide adder
I personally did sstred as my side and just used max move turn 1 and quad queued his tm
wide adder
what if i just tank sync?
Possible but unlikely. Most steel units are ground weak
cold lake
I personally did sstred as my side and just used max move turn 1 and quad queued...
...if i go with SST Red i can just delete the stage without Solgaleo/Hop
wide adder
She is heavily advised to turn deny on with flinch.
wide adder
...if i go with SST Red i can just delete the stage without Solgaleo/Hop
I mean yeah? Mines only 1/5 exr so I just used him as utility
Riley will make the stage easier next time it comes imo
Cause having a steel max countdown 3 move
cold lake
Possible but unlikely. Most steel units are ground weak
i tanked 3 times the sync with Solgaleo/Registeel/Flareon(Tina) -6 Atk + burn
sharp willow
I personally did hyper offensive parameters and went for the one shot with solgaleo first sync
On my triple ground weak clear that is
Ok, not quite one shot but one sunsteel strike afterwards finished it
cold lake
Solgaleo + Hop and what should i bring third?
i'm willing to try. Even if i'm this close to push the SST Red button.
sharp willow
I did Solgaleo / Colress / Holiday Jasmine. Dana would fill the same role
sharp willow
Yeah it needed very different parameters to what I usually use
cold lake
smfh the freaking Rhyperior always survives, if i could just hit for 1 more move before sync
>>> everyone
zealous karma
yes
silver dirge
Yes, the move is special, it just scales based on physical defense
zealous karma
But if the foe has sentry entry x2 passive it will be treated like she is attacking their defense
dim depot
I can't win against Lucian. I never get stuck like this anymore but it's the first time this set has been run with the higher points, so it's proving tough
Special attacks do nothing. That's like 90% of all ghost types.
old orchid
He has Wise Entry x2 so special dmg dealers are gonna have harded time. What team and params are you using?
dim depot
I couldn't win with my Morty meme team, so I've been modifying it. Here are my ghost units.
"physical ghost" aka phantom force which is too slow to matter
swift swan
? it's a 3/5 EX SSR Cynthia, she nukes Lucian to death
debuff special defense for cynthia's multiplier and you're fine
trail smelt
We all meme phantom force but honestly
When Giratina pops out that ghost weak mon dies to it lol
dim depot
I only took out the center once but I couldn't keep it up with the sides
swift swan
turn off both physical and special dmg reductions. DPS the sides with shadow ball, nuke mid
SSR Cynthia hits hard enough, you can afford replacing it with some strength
dim depot
I do have both damage reductions off. Damage is still mostly bad. They just recover it off
silver dirge
Can you send your actual in-game parameters?
An invested Cynthia should breeze through Lucian
glass valley
What exactly are Aarons passive abilities?
dim depot
There. Super-clutch win. It helps when sync actually crits instead of wiffing on his physical shield
keen jasper
What exactly are Aarons passive abilities?
If there's no weather on the field, he deals more damage
Meant as an encouragement to use Ingodrill + Cynthia
glass valley
Weather or sandstorm specifically?
And what is drapions passive? I paralyzed him but it didn’t seem to help
silver dirge
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium You can see the passives here
dim depot
Can you send your actual in-game parameters?
These are the parameters I went with. They're super jacked up now because I wasn't winning but I usually get by with something like this
silver dirge
Paralysis doesn't do anything relevant to Aaron; you should just enable some sort of weather so you disable Clear Power-Up/Sync 5
silver dirge
These are the parameters I went with. They're super jacked up now because I wasn...
That's a lott of bulk, consider replacing HP with some Attack, focusing on a quick high offense clear instead of increasing their bulk will help
Also the first Physical Damage Reduction (50 pts) is free. Crits bypass that shield, always pick those up
dim depot
I may toggle some of those on some battles. For this one, I put the HP2 instead of the damage type reduction
swift swan
HP gives quite a lot of bulk
just pick up physical screen and attack 1 for example
at this point you're stacking too much bulk than necessary
stacking Strength on top of HP is not a good idea
dim depot
Oh the HP+4 huh
It's usually been fine on getting post sync clears. They don't hit as hard and it's a bit more forgiving. Usually.
glass valley
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium You can see the passives here
Ty!!
dark osprey
It's usually been fine on getting post sync clears. They don't hit as hard and i...
Can still try the dps means since you've got both SSR cynthia and Morty at optimum levels.
Just set ghost zone as the last move before an EX support sync then go phantom force and shadow force
#1201710579040137267 message
Can even take sp dmg reduction parameter then
dim depot
A well-timed sync (that's not blocked by the shield) cinched it. And being able to land a Shadow Force on one of the sides with the zone still up too. Timings were tricky, but it worked. Shadow Ball never did any meaningful damage.
swift swan
It's usually been fine on getting post sync clears. They don't hit as hard and i...
3k Sinnoh isn't really "usual"
old orchid
Hoenn CS is next so the pain is not over yet
glass valley
I don’t get it, even after paralysis I can still see acute senses triggering on Drapion. But when I tested by applying trapped it doesn’t…what’s going on?
“Reduces damage when the user is hit by a move or sync move when it is not affected by a status change.”
Is paralysis not a status change?
dark osprey
Paralysis, burn, poison, freeze and sleep are status conditions here
Status change includes a bunch of things including trapped, confused, flinched, restrained and more
Just some terminology. For champion stadium master mode, you could just select gradual healing parameter and that counts as status change too
glass valley
Ohhh ok, I knew I was missing something, ty
silver dirge
Just enable grad healing
glass valley
I’m trying to clear hard for the first time OTL
silver dirge
Oh it's hard mode?
dark osprey
Hoenn CS is next so the pain is not over yet
Do any of the Hoenn stages actually have regular bulk?
swift swan
tfw regular bulk Hoenn stages are considered an outlier 😭
dark osprey
Lol yeah. Never thought we'd see steal weak Glacia as one of the easier ones
old orchid
Wait for Galar CS with 32k bulk
dense birch
Back to hunting for type medals soon. Week after, i’ll get to feel the hoenn MM pain too
silver dirge
Lol yeah. Never thought we'd see steal weak Glacia as one of the easier ones
She hits like an absolute truck so it's probably to make up for that
sick inlet
Lol yeah. Never thought we'd see steal weak Glacia as one of the easier ones
Time attack stage
If you don't win within x number of turns you die due to 999999999999x blizzard spam
jagged void
Any tips on how to beat the champion stadium for the first time (I don’t have many build characters )
Here are my teams so far.
When I get Leon I’ll put him on the Aaron team
sick inlet
Hard mode 1
Or master mode?
jagged void
Hard mode 1
sick inlet
If you're doing for the very first time (hard mode) try to not use the same type twice
If those are your only good units, then just go for it, but if there is room to use weaker mons with different typings, that's recommended
Like with SSTred you probably don't need a good team, he can carry a weak duo
jagged void
Yeah he did do most of the dmg in that team.
I’ll probably replace ss Cynthia with Leon soon-
Or bertha
jagged void
Any tips on how to complete the last two?
old orchid
how do your Ground and Steel roster look like?
jagged void
Not the best.
old orchid
can you show them here?
old orchid
get Solgaleo from Legendary Adventures and raise both him and Hop to 5/5 and 20/20
jagged void
Alright
frozen fossil
Aaron keeps kicking my aarse. I'm on Master Mode, Round 3, using the On-Type Pre-Sync presets. My party consists of Bertha, Courtney, with the third slot constantly switching because nothing is working for me.
rotund lagoon
Is it the Support that’s not working out?
old orchid
i assume quad queue failing problem
frozen fossil
Usually my Support dies too early. And if not, Aaron gets his Sync Move, defeating my Support.
frozen fossil
have you tried to do turn denial?
Who would be good fur turn denials?
rotund lagoon
Who have you been using as Support?
rotund lagoon
3/5 Bertha has very good nuke
Also Gakon was saying this for turn denial 
old orchid
basically use Bertha's nuke to deny the left side before they move
jagged void
I’ve gotten solglaeo and hop to 5/5 20/20
frozen fossil
Who have you been using as Support?
Originally Clay, then NC Rosa, then I tried Lenora.
rotund lagoon
I’ve gotten solglaeo and hop to 5/5 20/20
Try making a team around Solgaleo.
old orchid
Sonia or Hilbert are better options, because they help with gauge
rotund lagoon
Clay is not a Support btw ^^;;;;
old orchid
Originally Clay, then NC Rosa, then I tried Lenora.
none of them helps Bertha achieve max offensive stats quickly
frozen fossil
Clay is not a Support btw ^^;;;;
Sorry, I meant Clay as third member. But yeah, I quickly found out he wasn't very helpful.
rotund lagoon
You can turn off ping btw
But yeah, Gakon has a point, you need to focus on a Support that quickly maxes Bertha’s/Courtney’s offenses.
Focusing on the basics, basically 
frozen fossil
I already used Hilbert for Bertha, and I don't have Sonia.
I'm considering using Aaron, but he doesn't help with Speed.
old orchid
Aaron has innate MGR4, gauge should be alright
but Courtney has to use TMs most of time
what move level is Aaron btw?
frozen fossil
Aaron's at move level 2, Courtney at 1, Bertha at 3.
old orchid
alright, that should be good
grid Aaron with TM MPR
the strategy is using Bertha's first sync to nuke the left side, then second sync on the mid
the move order should be TM -> Sand Tomb on left -> Sandstorm
jagged void
Who should I use for Aaron?
old orchid
make sure she has at least +4 atk and zone activated before she syncs
im recommending Courtney + Bertha + Aaron
jagged void
Don’t have them except from bertha
old orchid
you do have them tho 
frozen fossil
That wasn't me commenting.
jagged void
old orchid
oof mb
for you i recommend doing offtype
or try Hop + Solgaleo + a flincher, which is not easy to pull off
jagged void
I used hop already-
old orchid
any physical supports should work, but non EX and power boosted Solgaleo is going to have a hard time beating Bertha
jagged void
Ah, I could wait until I get Leon. It doesn’t reset til monday
silver dirge
Someone sign a petition with me to remove evasion gimmick CS stages from this game 
paper summit
stop doing silly themes, problem solved
silver dirge
old orchid
sharp willow
Someone sign a petition with me to remove evasion gimmick CS stages from this ga...
signed
silver dirge
thank u
paper summit
I'd rather prefer you spend that energy on making them stop accuracy drops/evasion buffs on EBEs and such
those are infinitely more aggravating to have said gimmicks
silver dirge
How 'bout we just remove evasion from the game
sharp willow
split the difference and remove them from all remotely challenging content
steel kelp
Time to add it into story mode
frozen fossil
Aaron keeps kicking my aarse. I'm on Master Mode, Round 3, using the On-Type Pre...
Update: I still can't beat Aaron. I tried Bertha, Courtney, and Aaron.
I've tried using the strategy outlined by Gakon. I can beat Salazzle just fine (provided Aaron doesn't get defeated beforehand), but Aaron triggers his physical barrier before I can get my second Sync off, causing him to survive my Sync and then defeat me with his Sync.
I've also tried swapping Aaron for Hop. Hop has more survivability, but otherwise I'm still having the same issues as before.
rotund lagoon
You’re doing MM, right? Send your parameters, please.
frozen fossil
I'm playing in German. Is there an online tool that lets you share parameters?
sharp willow
yeah, pomatools has it
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium
Parameter button is top right
frozen fossil
sharp willow
I would drop the "tech takes more damage" for "attack & special attack up 1"
Probably doesn't make much difference but
frozen fossil
What should I take instead when I still want to go for 3,000 points?
sharp willow
Attack and Special Attack up 1. Since you're dying to the sync because you're barely missing the KO it may be a good idea to drop "Gradual Healing" for something like "attack and special attack up 5"
The physical shield isn't actually doing anything to make him live it unless you're getting unlucky with your sync critting though, its the same as the physical damage reduction parameter
left storm
Someone sign a petition with me to remove evasion gimmick CS stages from this ga...
Isn't the stage ACC dropping
Over Eva buffing
Because yknow
Egg machamp has acuity
sharp willow
No.
left storm
I disagree.
peak stirrup
Love how unkillable Bertha is.
Literally unkillable even after two Steven syncs.
manic kiln
steven can absolutely clear her in 2 sync with -6 def
parameters or team building issues
even f2p team can clear
hushed sorrel
What should I take instead when I still want to go for 3,000 points?
Have you learnt how to use flinch and sleep to essentially get 1-2 turns ahead?
rotund lagoon
You’re taking a number of params that screw you over more versus like Strength, which is a better balance. Check the pins for our small guide on 3k params. If your roster is still new tho, 3k is not something to worry about.
In fact…you gave them waaaaayyy too much bulk.
hushed sorrel
Your param looks fine. Usually you can try adjust. Strength for increasing Enemy attack. You need to trial and error depending on your tank.
sharp willow
idk the parameter set seems fine to me
hushed sorrel
But you should check this out. If you learn this it will make life easier in CSMM. #1009554906568462476 message
sharp willow
theres a couple improvements i could see but they have mostly strength and offense which is usually fine
rotund lagoon
I have a very good example, which I just started fiddling with recently. Lemme send it.
hushed sorrel
Str is one size fits all so it's better to learn to make adjustments as you go.
rotund lagoon
Only one I’d switch is Max HP 4 (and ofc the 100 point damage reductions and status ones depending on team)
rotund lagoon
Omg I just realized I read this backwards wtf!!!
No wonder I never use PoMa Tools’ params thing .-.
rich needle
rotund lagoon
Reading the params correctly now…I do feel like there are changes you could make to make your match easier. Feel free to check mine, too.
sharp willow
no
rich needle
rotund lagoon
Ew post sync on Sinnoh
rich needle
sharp willow
and i say that as a post sync enjoyer
rich needle
I did it with solgaleo
Yes it required ncleaf and ncblue so it doesn’t die horribly
I regret nothing
rotund lagoon
<:LisiaBread:1202297830455390208>
Btw I’m eating bread irl rn 
rich needle
peak stirrup
steven can absolutely clear her in 2 sync with -6 def
parameters or team buildin...
I had colress and he had def at -6
Steven +6 atk for haymaker
sharp willow
what parameters were you using
rich needle
Ncleaf and ncblue make just about anything clearable
And no ncleaf didn’t do damage I use standard damage
peak stirrup
+Atk & + strength
rich needle
That’s a tad vague
peak stirrup
Okay all the + atk and all the + strength and then fill ins for 3k
manic kiln
did you let her sync
peak stirrup
No I syncd twice and she didn’t die
rich needle
What the hell are the fill in’s
And also you shouldn’t be using max strength for pre sync
That’s a lot of defensive boosts
manic kiln
max str is still fine
rotund lagoon
Yeah I’m pretty sure max strength is fine lol
rich needle
peak stirrup
Definitely pulling rose whenever he comes back around
rich needle
I mean if you’re lacking the damage might as well
Not that I’d know
Post sync moment
manic kiln
some people failed to clear with Rose too, it's not about the unit, something wrong with parameter, execution...
is steven 3/5
peak stirrup
Yes and EX
Sides die on sync but she is still above half
You basically have 4 of her turns to kill since HS1 and if she uses shield you hit for zero
sharp willow
if she uses shield you hit for 0
That sounds like that might be the issue
Are you buffing Steven's crit at all
rich needle
manic kiln
you need to use Hop as 2nd dps too, I didn't even need 2nd sync
rich needle
Wot is going on
manic kiln
And I used Steven TM on first sync
if you can use the 2nd sync you need to use Steven TM before too
hushed sorrel
Love how unkillable Bertha is.
Literally unkillable even after two Steven syncs...
Solgaleo ftw 😂if you want to check out this clear #1009554906568462476 message
rotund lagoon
Couldn’t even poison stall her
I honestly think you should send your exact params.
peak stirrup
jagged void
I’m still struggling on this fight :/
hushed sorrel
You don't need zone for steel
jagged void
?
rich needle
Maybe gradual healing is screwing with him
hushed sorrel
Just start again doesn’t take that long 😂
Absolute worse get less points now and do it again later
jagged void
I can’t.
jagged void
Yeah, I can’t get past this battle though-
I’ll probably have to let itreset on Monday and do red last.
frozen fossil
Have you learnt how to use flinch and sleep to essentially get 1-2 turns ahead?
That's what I've ended up doing. I went back to using NC Rosa as Support and used the AOE Sleep effect on Sing to bullshit myself to victory.
glass valley
I can’t kill Aaron :(
Hard mode
Suggestions? Viola is my only trapper and Kyurem and Palkia are my only off type attackers, and I want to use palkia for Cynthia
Serperior hasn’t been a great tank but the move gauge refill is useful for Kyurem 4bar move…not sure how to switch my support to make this better
The other 3 teams I tested and seem to do fine so I prefer not to change them but all suggestions welcome
tired sleet
Have you considered poison stall? I notice that none of your teams have any poison types
dark osprey
Also, didn't see any of the Kanto trio on the roster. Have you completed Victory road? You would get one of the Kanto trio. Better to choose SS Blue and Blastoise
glass valley
Been extremely indecisive between Blue and Leaf, based on what I’ve read about late(r) game providing more useful tanks
glass valley
Have you considered poison stall? I notice that none of your teams have any pois...
How do you build a poison stall team? I assume I pick Koga and two supports and just…stall?
tired sleet
Koga works, just make sure your supports can buff defence and heal. Offensive capabilities don’t matter
Attack debuffs may also be nice
glass valley
Koga works, just make sure your supports can buff defence and heal. Offensive ca...
I tried Sycamore Koga and Viola but clear weather buff is buffing drapion to one shotting xerneas (and then it’s downhill from there)
tired sleet
Your team doesn’t have any Defence buff, only SpAtk debuffs and SpDef buffs. Aaron mostly uses Physical attacks
glass valley
Your team doesn’t have any Defence buff, only SpAtk debuffs and SpDef buffs. Aar...
So I need:
- trap
- poison
- healing
- def buff OR attack debuff OR weather change/sandstorm
I don’t think I have a set of 3 Pokémon that can do all 4…
tired sleet
You don’t need trap, just bad poison
And defence debuffs far surpass the other defensive mechanics, and many supports comprise both
glass valley
Does poison ignores acute senses damage reduction on drapion?
tired sleet
Yes, acute senses only affects the damage of direct attacks, like moves/sync moves
glass valley
:O tysm, I’ll try that
tired sleet
Good luck 
glass valley
And defence debuffs far surpass the other defensive mechanics, and many supports...
By defense debuff did you mean Attack Down on enemy?
tired sleet
Oh sorry, i meant defence buff
Like skyla for example
So like Skyla/Koga and some third who can change weather, trap, tank, heal, or debuff attack
glass valley
So like Skyla/Koga and some third who can change weather, trap, tank, heal, or d...
New problem, Drapion is getting gradual healing and is out healing the poison damage
rotund lagoon
You’re doing Bad Poison, right?
glass valley
Yes
rotund lagoon
Bad Poison ticks higher damage over time, unlike regular poison. Is your team dying?
tired sleet
What team exactly were you using?
glass valley
Rosa Koga Skyla and Sycamore Koga Skyla
dark osprey
Hope you can candy your Skyla to 3/5 move level. Do you have 2 support 3* candies by any chance?
tired sleet
Rosa Koga Skyla and Sycamore Koga Skyla
Was Sycamore getting taken out early? As long as he spams Horn Leech and you triple queue, he should be fine
glass valley
Was Sycamore getting taken out early? As long as he spams Horn Leech and you tri...
Drapion post sync buff, clear weather buff, and crit buff deals 1000 dmg for one shotting xerneas :’(
tired sleet
Ah, I suppose you have no lucky cookies to give him the anti crit Lucky Skill since you’re new (Vigilance)
Sorry for making you run around but go to side area-> battle villa and follow the #1009417207391985754 guide so you can get an item to block crits on sycamore
old orchid
Aaron is tricky to stall this week 
im thinking of Dawn, Skyla and Lucy team, but you might not have Dawn
tired sleet
I can’t kill Aaron :(
Hard mode
Suggestions? Viola is my only trapper and Kyur...
^ no lucy
glass valley
I can’t kill Aaron :(
Hard mode
Suggestions? Viola is my only trapper and Kyur...
Well we can take this the other way, I’m pretty sure I can use Palkia to brute force through Aaron, but then what team should I use for Cynthia?
dark osprey
Alternatively, not sure if it would work but could try using Silver, with Skyla and maybe Mina for attack debuffs
Silver would bring the weather by syncing but he wouldn't have much buffs but can burn as well which helps with attack lowering
old orchid
burn stall without trap and lower burn resistance is way harder than normal poison stall
no Lucy sucks 
dark osprey
Not exactly burn stall but a combination of damage while stalling I guess
old orchid
then Silver doesnt have offensive buffs
dark osprey
Yeah. Did mention that was the main issue. Just the crit
glass valley
I don’t think I’m finishing CS this week T.T
Guess I’ll wait for more free rolls
tired sleet
Legendary gauntlet and battle villa both have items that would prevent your sycamore from getting crit one shot
glass valley
Legendary gauntlet and battle villa both have items that would prevent your syca...
Cookies right? But the odds of getting Vigilance are 0.5-1% with 1* and 2* cookies and I only have like 5 3* cookies for a 12% chance
tired sleet
Yeah but legendary gauntlet is in 3 hours and that provides an easy and fast way to reset and farm for 3* lucky cookies
Just fight Latios, get the rewards, reset, and fight Latios again (repeat and you’ll have tons of 🥠
glass valley
Ohhh! Ok sounds good, there’s hope yet
jagged void
Why am I struggling so much on this-
trail smelt
I love how bulked out Drapion is lol
nocturne pawn
Why am I struggling so much on this-
probably cuz non limited ground pairs kinda stink and hes also doing 50% more damage without a weather change
swift swan
if that's hard mode, make sure to deactivate acute senses
if it's master mode, gradual healing will deactivate it
and yeah aaron hits harder if there's no weather
not to mention he's just bulky AF
jagged void
and yeah aaron hits harder if there's no weather
I had sandstorm on for a bit and he still did decent damage. I don’t have any better ground type pairs. Only may and bertha
mellow linden
No Courtney?
mellow linden
Nothing wrong with off-type or Posion stall
swift swan
bertha's a good nuker at higher move levels
jagged void
She’s 2/5
swift swan
ah then offtyping should be fine
just make sure to trap Aaron
and keep sandstorm up so he hits less hard
undone ether
hum hoenn cs in 2 resets huh
jagged void
I finally completed it.
nocturne pawn
is that froslass
silver dirge
Mhm, Froslass on fire-weak
jagged void
So I’ve finally completed it for the first time
silver dirge
Nicely done!
nocturne pawn
Mhm, Froslass on fire-weak
basically change hail or you die
silver dirge
Yup
nocturne pawn
isnt that her main gimmick anyway
silver dirge
It is yea
There's the infamous steel weak Glacia as well with SE x2
Interestingly enough, fighting weak glacia is quite tame - low base HP, no hail, no entry x2 gimmick
nocturne pawn
Interestingly enough, fighting weak glacia is quite tame - low base HP, no hail,...
if she had good form tho
swift swan
other fighting weak stages are usualy quite annoying
nocturne pawn
cuz she has 8 buffs on entry
swift swan
with eva gimmicks
silver dirge
Mhm
frozen fossil
I'm trying to defeat Round 4 Flint on Master Mode. I've been trying to defeat him pre-Sync, but have had no success so far. My first Sync Move doesn't do any damage because I'm focusing on flinching everyone just to stay alive, and I don't live long enough to get off my second Sync. If Magmortar, at any point, uses Heat Wave even once, my party is wiped.
My Striker is Kris/Feraligator, who has been strengthened to EX rank. My Support is Aaron. For my third member, I've been trying Nanu for Flinch and Screech support.
The struck through Sync Pairs are the ones I've used in previous rounds.
Can Flint be done post-sync?
mellow linden
What parameters are you running?
Also try Winona instead of Nanu for Rain
Actually, wait, that’s a 4/5 Nessa
So IMO run Nessa instead of your 2/5 Kris
frozen fossil
Nessa doesn't have an AOE Sync move, though. Should I still user her over my EX Kris?
silver dirge
Sides don't need much to go down, mid is your main target. Nessa's nuke is really strong, should go down pretty breezy
mellow linden
Yeah, Strike EX isn’t necessary
And 2/5 Kris is a significant downgrade from 3/5+ Kris
frozen fossil
I somehow did it after roughly ten billion resets for Flinch hax.
What would be a good strategy for Cynthia? Since she's weak to Fighting, I'm thinking of using Solgaleo. Lucian would help with his AOE Atk and Sp. Def. debuffs.
As Support, I'm thinking of using Eevee.
Would this be doable, or should I instead focus on debuffing Speed?
mellow linden
Bea would be a much better pick than Solgaleo
Can use Maylene as one of the Supports to help deal with the Accuracy debuff shenanigans
While also providing offensive buffs for Bea
frozen fossil
Then I'd need a second Support, since Maylene does not live particularly long. Would Eevee still be good for that, or should I focus on a debuffer?
mellow linden
Leaf can probably work fine, yeah
If gauge ends up being an issue then the Supports can be adjusted
pseudo hatch
Is Aaron inmune to trap?
sharp willow
Not by default, you might have selected the interference immunity parameter thatd cause that to be the case though
grand trout
What passive makes aaron stronger sans weather?
old orchid
Clear Advantage iirc
grand trout
Isn't that a passive that makes you take less damage without a field effect?
old orchid
Well you can always check info of every stage on pomatools site
It has been a while since my last team checking these kinds of passive
plush tangle
Clear Power-Up and Clear Sync-Up
silver dirge
Glacia 
- Mostly Special
- Low HP, no crazy gimmicks
Sidney 
- Guaranteed AoE Paralysis
before sync - Furious Brain with +2 SpAtk on entry
- Mixed special and physical
Tips
- Strong pre-sync before chance to paralyze
- Consider paralysis denial
- Consider spAtk debuffs
Phoebe 
- Mostly
special - Strong moves, some AoE
- Raises attack on entry
- Has Haymaker & Furious Brawn to boost DPS/Sync
- Raises defense stats on entry
Tips
- Consider Atk debuffs
Drake 
- Physical Only
- Tough Cookie with defense buff on entry
- Powers up moves
- Debuffs AoE speed on successful attacks
Tips
- Gauge support or speed buffs
- Defense debuff
Wallace 
- Mostly physical
some special - Uses toxic
before sync
Tips
- Strong pre-sync before chance to toxic
- Status Heal/Prevention or Antitoxin if post-syncing
Notes
- Critical information* has been bolded & underlined, the rest is just tips you may consider, not mandatory - do not obsess over or disrupt team synergy for them
- Inspiration: Sages
Don't mind me while I shuffle around some pins
silver dirge
# <:GlaciaPolite:1135687707314630666> __Glacia__ <:fightingtype:1027937088731091...
old orchid
dark osprey
# <:GlaciaPolite:1135687707314630666> __Glacia__ <:fightingtype:1027937088731091...
This is awesome. If possible could the HP Advantage on Phoebe be changed to Healthy advantage
dark osprey
Thanks. Folks are going to be edgy tomorrow with these. Hopefully nothing as bad as head start Bertha
silver dirge
Yea for sure
They all have pretty high HP and Glacia's offenses are no joke
AoE spam too
dark osprey
True. I think RNG will be key for Glacia at least
old orchid
Head Start Bertha is not as bad as some Hoenn stages 
silver dirge
dark osprey
I guess I remember Glacia hitting hard and maybe ghost Wikstrom. Also probably sentry entry Phoebe
Head start Bertha mainly coz it was more about trying to get ahead in the sync countdown which was never required before
They could just power through
old orchid
Wikstrom is an Hoenn E4? 🤯
dark osprey
silver dirge
dark osprey
I keep getting confused with them
silver dirge
Hoenn has some tricky stages, but overall it's less chaotic as a set
There's some relatively tame stages in there
Whereas something like Sinnoh you get stuck with 4 weather gimmicks and 3 entry x2 gimmicks in the same run
dark osprey
Yeah. Weather supports were so good back then but then they shifted the meta with supports after that I guess
sharp willow
yeah hoenn is less bad than sinnoh as a whole imo
steel weak Glacia does kinda suck though
sick inlet
Hoenn has some tricky stages, but overall it's less chaotic as a set
I await the usual outrage of "This is bullshit" 
silver dirge
keen jasper
Boy, I just spedrun CS like I was trying for the world record
frozen fossil
I need help with Cynthia. Parameters and available Sync Pairs are in the attached images.
I've been using Bea as attacker, Maylene as Support, and for the last slot, I've been using Lenora.
I've tried shuffling the parameters around, but I just can't deal enough damage to Porygon-Z before it gets its Sync move off.
mellow linden
Try using Skyla instead of Lenora for an EX Support Sync
Also, make sure you’re basically only clicking Meteor Assault on Bea
tired sleet
(And don’t use triple support damage and so much strength, take attack if you want them to be frailer)
frozen fossil
I used triple Support damage only for my final attempts, because I was using Deoxys as tank.
Which moves should I prioritize on Maylene?
Should I ever use Rock Smash for the Defense drop, or should I exclusively focus on Trainer Moves?
mellow linden
Her 1st 3 moves should be Trainer Move and 2 X Attack Alls
So that Bea can Meteor Assault as much as possible
versed meteor
This ground Aaron is actually ass hard with this 3k csmm
Is there f2p clears of it
tired sleet
Define F2P, do gen pools count?
manic kiln
it is a repeated stage, who did you use to clear 2 weeks ago
nocturne pawn
bertha is the intended unit for aaron this week
lean lion
Planning for tomorrow's CSMM. Do these teams look okay?
nocturne pawn
he has acute senses and clear power up
nocturne pawn
Planning for tomorrow's CSMM. Do these teams look okay?
why is bertha there
nocturne pawn
yes but there is a better weather to use with brendan
lean lion
He's only 1/5. No sun stuff on grid
lean lion
Oh wait
nocturne pawn
but bertha is really slow
lean lion
Wallace has wise entry
lean lion
No, I have 3/5 Mallow though
nocturne pawn
try mallow hilbert and blaine
nocturne pawn
do you have a tech ninetails then
lean lion
No 😦
rich needle
You got any other limited units
rich needle
I just mean limited like ones that can unga bings through it
rich needle
They seem too new for that
frozen fossil
I need help with Cynthia. Parameters and available Sync Pairs are in the attache...
Update: After many frustrating attempts, I've decided to go down to 2,500 points and ended up finally beating Cynthia, so my final score is 14,500.
Big thanks to everyone here who's helped me.
brave halo
So which teams look like they'll have the most difficult time tomorrow?
sharp willow
the electric one i guess?
tired sleet
Depends on nemona’s move level
I mean it’ll be easy at 3/5 but more difficult than the others
brave halo
2/5
Granted I know if I just throw in sstred then it'll be a cakewalk but wanted to try and hope it works without him or even ash
sharp willow
im just mildly concerned about the complete lack of decent DPS on it, its probably workable still
same with the fairy team except you have zone, 2 rebuff and a nuke there
tired sleet
same with the fairy team except you have zone, 2 rebuff and a nuke there
Just denial side with 1st sync, it’s not like sync won’t one shot
sharp willow
yeah
tired sleet
Penny’s + Wally’s Disarming Voice spam is also very underrated chip for sides, since sides have no SpDef drop resistance
brave halo
I'll see what I can do, tho if I have too I have rats on standby, however I plan to try triple special rats
Chase, ash, and petey cause it sounds fun
If anything I have blue as well for electric rebuff, I'll hope it'll work where I won't be constantly swapping the team around
silver dirge
There's extremely few stages that can withstand the rats, should breeze through
brave halo
It'll still be a later thing if nemona cannot work at all
mellow linden
Eh, as long as you Paralyze I kinda doubt Phoebe would be an issue
lean lion
Did you get support fuecoco? <:Hopium:875906112963117056>
No roster is very limited. Only other limited pairs are nc rosa and nc serena
lean lion
Fell asleep after sending this last night. Sharing again looking for any advice or changes. This is for new CSMM starting today.
toxic cobalt
We will see what the round params are but these teams look fine assuming Brendan has dauntless
lean lion
Yup dauntless on Brendan
But Wallace has wise entry x2 I was planning on using Bullet seed instead
I just realized, am I going to have to get the type medal again for Hoenn?
dark osprey
Yeah. Unfortunately
lean lion
So no CSMM this week for me?
dark osprey
This is your first Hoenn CS right?
lean lion
Yeah
dark osprey
Then yeah
It's sad that they don't even let you to reset and experiment on hard mode
lean lion
Yeah right
dark osprey
That's quite a good spread of number of types I guess
Can change the ones that are doubled like grass, fire, fairy and electric
lean lion
11/18, but if I'm not doing CSMM I'll tweak all teams and try to include more
dark osprey
True
lean lion
Yes
silver dirge
As if that's a problem for Irida/NC Red
undone ether
Wise Entryx2 for Wallace as well.
gonna be testing out Mix Red's Only Razor Leaf grid hehe
swift swan
round params will have to wait a few mins, I'm in the middle of a solo 😭
silver dirge
# <:GlaciaPolite:1135687707314630666> __Glacia__ <:fightingtype:1027937088731091...
swift swan
pin jumpscare
silver dirge
Just had to fix the order up
silver dirge
round params will have to wait a few mins, I'm in the middle of a solo 😭
Hoping for half sync to start Hoenn off strong
swift swan
updated
silver dirge
old orchid
Hoping for half sync to start Hoenn off strong
old orchid
i have NC Red Raihan anyway
undone ether
As if that's a problem for Irida/NC Red
yeah. the combo really really well even with wise entryx2 @_@
cedar flume
balls deep into team building and realizing you dont have mm 15 min later 
undone ether
you'll need another week tbh 😮
cedar flume
Hoennn
undone ether
how many more types you need to complete your medal?
cedar flume
I have all 18 smh its easy i just have to wait a week to 13k
undone ether
dangit NC Blue. Why do you always get Burned by 10% Heat Waves? D:
jagged void
Seems like I have to off type most of this champion stadium-
tired sleet
You don’t have Hala, EX Silver, Elesa, or SS Erika? 
silver dirge
A Brendan nuke will work for Wallace too
tired sleet
Maybe better if he’s exed tho
silver dirge
Mhm
tired sleet
Otherwise he’ll feel like a tech pair without EX
jagged void
You don’t have Hala, EX Silver, Elesa, or SS Erika? <:WhitneySad:612731193741541...
No I don’t
tired sleet
Being a new player is unfortunate, they should really make the legendary power boosts permanent
jagged void
Hopefully I’ll pull Grusha soon
tired sleet
Having hail is a lot more important than ice zone
silver dirge
Is this hard mode or MM?
jagged void
Hard mode
These teams suck. I’m gonna do the legendary adventures for the free sync pairs
verbal karma
I can't win R1 with this team 😦
I can beat the mid, but then the sides spam Heat Wave
north crown
I can't win R1 with this team 😦
you could try replacing BPClemont with a def debuffer/flincher hybrid
north crown
These teams suck. I’m gonna do the legendary adventures for the free sync pairs
first time in Hoenn?
swift swan
you could try replacing BPClemont with a def debuffer/flincher hybrid
Nanu works very well
north crown
I was thinking more in the lines of Kukui, since gauge might become tough
verbal karma
you could try replacing BPClemont with a def debuffer/flincher hybrid
Tried to do that, and now, not only am I suffering from Move Gauge problems, but I also no longer can deal enough damage to Sydney to beat him before he syncs
north crown
holdup... I don't see anyway you're having problems doing that unless you go post sync and using both supp EX syncs
north crown
ok now that's strange....
verbal karma
Like I said, I could beat mid when I still had BP Clemont
the side Heat Waves simply deal THAT much damage
even without a sync buff
verbal karma
To whom?
old orchid
why not replacing Hop with someone that helps both offensively and defensively so you can afford stagger unit
north crown
there's not a lot of supports that can help as much as Hop tho...
ok now that I thought it over, you shouldn't have gauge issues if you use a specific queuing order. It should go something like this:
TM, Charm, Scr
TM, Charm, Scr
TM, Charm, Scr
[Sync], PR, XSpeed
Hop, PR, Bite (flinch)
Hop, PR
Hop, PR, Nanu
[Sync]
I took Freevenge into consideration
or you could fish for flinch on turn 4 by using Mina's TM
verbal karma
why not replacing Hop with someone that helps both offensively and defensively s...
...I only have one such sync pair, and sadly, she makes pre-syncing almost impossible due to quadqueing being impossible with her
north crown
can I hear what pair this is? She might help
silver dirge
Sonia lmao
verbal karma
ok now that I thought it over, you shouldn't have gauge issues if you use a spec...
Hop actually has Adrenaline, so I don't have to worry about Freevenge
verbal karma
can I hear what pair this is? She might help
Yeah, what Arch said: Sonia
north crown
ah ok nvm me then... I totally forgot about that 
Nanu could save it, but both of them basically accomplish the same thing so 
verbal karma
Nanu could save it, but both of them basically accomplish the same thing so <:La...
I mean, that's who I replaced BP Clemont with
north crown
If you really want Sonia for her potions giving MGA, you'd have to back on turn 4-5 flinch from Nanu
verbal karma
If you really want Sonia for her potions giving MGA, you'd have to back on turn ...
I mean, I would rather wanna use Hop than Sonia if possible
north crown
then ig bank on Nanu's flinches after mid is down ig
verbal karma
then ig bank on Nanu's flinches after mid is down ig <:LanceShrug:65951654330184...
I mean, that would require the mid to go down in the first place
Which sadly doesn't happen with Nanu
north crown
wtf how does it not happen with Nanu? +6 ATK, +3 CRIT, -6 DEF, and x2 Sync Buff from Hop regardless
verbal karma
Okay, was FINALLY able to beat mid with Nanu in my team
Problem is that Nanu dies to Heat Wave instantly
jagged void
first time in Hoenn?
Yeah.
north crown
You should aim to use as many types as possible so the type medal is completed. This gives you access to "Master Mode" (MM), which basicalyl give you more EX rewards
verbal karma
...alright, since Nanu is sadly not working out either, any other ideas?
lean lion
Still not happy I have to wait another week for MM
versed meteor
Wait which cs has a fire weak wallrain
old orchid
wallrain?
north crown
@jagged void I hope you can make some use out of this, as it seems I went completely overboard for a 🔰, !! I tried to not reuse types for that glorious regional medal 
[Sidney] Hop, Mina, HViola
- Simple clear. Hop will need TM MPR, while Mina will want Pecking Order to increase her Sync Move damage (Sync Nuke).
[Phoebe] SSBlue, Hau, Lucy/SSRoxie - Trust me; both SSBlue and SCLillie carries hard. Make sure to have every opponent paralyzed or poisoned. IF you're using SSRoxie, this means using your GMAX move straight away.
[Glacia] SSAcerola, Silver/SSMay/SSHilda, Nanu - self explanatory. Nanu does his utility stuff.
[Drake] Lenora, NCNate, Winona - Burst clear with NCNate. Simple.
[Wallace] Sycamore, Bertha, Maylene
- Trap Stall. Trust in Xerneas, the Immortal Deer. Sycamore will need his grid, and maybe a bit of Maylene's too for max crit.
jagged void
<@715281666230190100> I hope you can make some use out of this, as it seems I we...
The thing is I don’t have most of them.
silver dirge
<@715281666230190100> I hope you can make some use out of this, as it seems I we...
Did you confuse their roster with someone else's? If not that's a whole lot of limited units they very likely don't have
swift swan
Problem is that Nanu dies to Heat Wave *instantly*
Flinch it
That's kinda the point i'm afraid
north crown
Did you confuse their roster with someone else's? If not that's a whole lot of l...
I think they mentioned something about resetting their account. Did you @jagged void?
silver dirge
I looked through their posted images, doesn't look like they've posted their roster here
grand trout
OH MY GOD I SPENT 3 HOURS ON THIS
FUCK YOU STAGE
NOT JUST YOU DRAKE, EVEN THE TWO WHO WILL FUCKING EQ AT THE DROP OF A HAT
grand trout
Also i thought cred could bypass wisex2 but apparently not
silver dirge
He should
grand trout
Rare Summer Steven spotted
IT'S EITHER HIM OR LEON
silver dirge
Hala erasure
formal vigil
Hala would have easily destroyed this
grand trout
Haha pun intended 
jagged void
I think they mentioned something about resetting their account. Did you <@715281...
Yeah I did.
Sorry for the confusion
silver dirge
Oof
grand trout
Hala erasure <:AcerolaPensive:608464449141080084>
Also I'm gutsy and went into this stage without the intent of overriding his weather lol
Only support with hail is bea which I don't have
formal vigil
Just use candice hala attack crit support easy
north crown
Well I think using substitute pairs shouldn’t be that detrimental.
grand trout
Just use candice hala attack crit support easy
At any rate i destroyed this stage anyways
Anyways fuck you drake
swift swan
trail smelt
Oh dear I forgot to make next week’s team
Diantha and Palerena are really showing their ages haha
Can’t wait sor Sygna Suit Gladion
sick inlet
Who was saying Hoenn easier
My nightmare
Sydney returns
With his BS typings (Fairy and Bug) and mix damage + bs crit rate + good bulk
Struggling to duo that mf
wide adder
Glacia is ruining my night rn lol
wide adder
I actually have to use a serious team for her instead of goofing off lmao
trail smelt
I’m surprised that didn’t work
Oh wait you meant this serious team is what worked haha
wide adder
This didn’t work I had to swap Gloria for hilda victini
I was surprised by it not working too
wide adder
Diantha and Palerena are really showing their ages haha
Also how’d you struggle with palerena exactly?
manic kiln
My old budget mono fire team doesn’t work any more, have to sleep stall with serena 
wide adder
2/5 palerena almost oneshot sides here
I get that blues a strong support but almost any full buffer would perform the same here tbh.
All her age for me is just how hard it is to buff her. But if she’s buffed she just destroys stage
wide adder
Also how’d you struggle with palerena exactly?
And this is basically max strength +8 hp for reference. My lazy params as I call them.
Any semi reasonable params I don’t think should be struggling if she isn’t 1/5 unless you just aren’t buffing her
trail smelt
Mono fairy team
She barely deals 3k with her moonblast I think she ain’t oneshotting anything with that haha
wide adder
She barely deals 3k with her moonblast I think she ain’t oneshotting anything wi...
Unless I’m missing something you gave her +0 crit
That’d do it
wide adder
You played yourself
wide adder
Btw kinda struggling on Wallace rn. Been trying offtype a bit due to my grass box being kinda subpar but uhhh my offtypes are also subpar into wise x2
Basically almost all my unspent limiteds of value are visible in these
Might be 1-2 offscreen but I don’t think most of my 1/5 dmg will be too valuable here anyway
If it somehow matters tho
shadow notch
Hi
I'm sorry
And how to pass this at 2.5k?( Overall 0 damage and that's who I ha...
Perhaps I went too far with modifiers.
wide adder
Originally tried ssbrendan Sprigatito and Ingo and got my face steamrolled. Also tried Sprigatito and ss Erika and that got rolled too
verbal karma
Damn, I am running out of ideas for who to pick against R1 Sidney
silver dirge
Perhaps I went too far with modifiers.
That's 8 defense my friend, drop all that immediately
silver dirge
See the pins for the 2.5K preset, choose one of those and adjust it to your team
You should never pick Defense if you're pre-syncing
wide adder
Perhaps I went too far with modifiers.
As arch said don’t run def params unless it’s stall
At absolute most +1 def but usually not necessary unless rly niche params
silver dirge
Mhm
I'm a lil busy so I'll have a look at yours in a bit Rhythm, in case someone else hasn't by then
wide adder
Damn, I am running out of ideas for who to pick against R1 Sidney
Fairy dps of choice, egg sylveon, strong support of choice?
That’s generally what I did this week for fairy
Although I think mine was on r3 for my 2/5 Serena
wide adder
Lack of fairy Crit support hurts me lol
Your supports don’t have to be ontype like almost ever
trail smelt
I’m doing monotyping baybee
verbal karma
Fairy dps of choice, egg sylveon, strong support of choice?
What even IS a good fairy DPS in my team, though?
Because I don't think I have one
silver dirge
BP Valerie is amazing
wide adder
^
old orchid
Lack of fairy Crit support hurts me lol
Should have pulled 3/5 Penny 
verbal karma
BP Valerie is amazing
I mean, I did try BP Valerie and got even worse results than Mina...
silver dirge
That doesn't provide much context, at the very minimum send your team, in-game parameters and explain what the issue is
wide adder
I’d be surprised if Sonia bp Valerie and egg sylveon doesn’t clear for example personally
Just seems like it wouldn’t be hard on paper
silver dirge
Definitely should clear like a breeze
If no Egg Sylveon can simply use a defense debuffer/physical enabler
wide adder
Originally tried ssbrendan Sprigatito and Ingo and got my face steamrolled. Also...
Ima sleep so for whoever replies to me for clear ideas, leave ping on so I can find the answer easier thanks. Gn
silver dirge
Originally tried ssbrendan Sprigatito and Ingo and got my face steamrolled. Also...
SS Erika + Sprig + decent Physical support should give Wallace a run for his money, you sure you haven't got too much bulk in the params?
wide adder
What’s a good phys enabler that buffs spdef that I might have… uhhh this looks concerning when I filter to spdef
Atk filter meanwhile
silver dirge
Hmm
Have you tried Redlax or Calem? They can take a few hits
Could try a hyper offensive clear with Hilbert, he can hang on an extra turn with endure
silver dirge
wide adder
gn fr now
(Side note: this week gave me this, since cs also is a surge of bp. Prob getting nita)
rain turret
until next week
jagged void
For, Glacia, do i just have to get rid of the hail and then I’ll be fine right?
old orchid
you should still watch out for aoe attacks
jagged void
Ah ok.
rain turret
I used gordie, ss hilda and karen against glacia
verbal karma
That doesn't provide much context, at the very minimum send your team, in-game p...
Well, my original team (Hop/Mina/BP Clemont) could beat mid, but sides kill me with Heat Wave spam
But then this team isn't even able to sync a second time before the opponent syncs because something prevents the quadqueue consistently
dark osprey
That's probably because of quick tempo from Caitlin
formal vigil
Do you have Aaron?
formal vigil
Could use him instead
verbal karma
Thanks
formal vigil
Also do you happen to have tech egg sylveon?
silver dirge
But then this team isn't even able to sync a second time before the opponent syn...
Can you send me BP Valerie's grid? And are you using Swords Dance right before you sync with her?
formal vigil
If so I would use that over BP clemont for fairy zone
verbal karma
...welp, BP Valerie's sync only deals 50%, even with EX support sync buff
That means BP Valerie won't work for R1 Sidney
verbal karma
Can you send me BP Valerie's grid? And are you using Swords Dance right before y...
I am
silver dirge
Show me the grid, and your parameters
manic kiln
parameters actually good this time 
jagged void
Any other tips for Glacia? I’m struggling :/
old orchid
what team and parameters are you using?
bad parameters selection still ruins the best team, so be careful with choosing parameters
jagged void
Hop Bertha and silver atm and I’m only on the hard lv still
old orchid
replace Bertha with a sun setter, she does nothing to help Silver there
is your Silver power boosted?
jagged void
Silver is 5/5 20/20 if that’s what you meant
Would any other characters in the legendary adventures work?
old orchid
Silver is fine, just asking if you happen to have him EX and power boosted
how about parameters?
formal vigil
hard lv no params
old orchid
reading moment
does your Silver have Dauntless lucky skill? if yes, better replacing Hop with a mixed support like Lyra
jagged void
Don’t have her :/
formal vigil
then just use sacred fire lower damge easier to support though
old orchid
if you can, grid Silver with Inertia, Ramming Speed and Fast-Track 3
Sonia works better than Hop, but you have to use Silver's TM under sun to get max crit if she is not 3/5
wicked junco
Hey yall, have any of you used a fancy Ice mono for 3k R4 Drake by any chance?
Physical Ice is kinda wack, and sadly my Hala isn't EX, so by the time I get rid of Flygon I get eaten alive by EQ and a painful -6 Spd for gauge
silver dirge
What's the Ice roster looking like?
rotund lagoon
I’m also curious if you have Glaceon Eggmon
lunar meadow
Hey yall, have any of you used a fancy Ice mono for 3k R4 Drake by any chance?
I use mono ice all the time
wicked junco
What's the Ice roster looking like?
Like this
And got all Ice eggmons and roles as well
lunar meadow
Articuno and MeLapras works as a core for mono-ice
wicked junco
Don't they have Wise Entry this week?
rotund lagoon
I don’t think he’d have too much trouble, but why not try Summer Steven?
silver dirge
Wise Entry is just as-if you were off-typing without losing SE bonuses, NC Red shouldn't struggle
But yea, could give Steven a try
rotund lagoon
Just as long as the params are not against you too much
wicked junco
I did, his dps is the saddest thing I had to see this day
I used to love this unit but man has he fallen behind
formal vigil
why not use hala instead
wicked junco
Physical Ice is kinda wack, and sadly my Hala isn't EX, so by the time I get rid...
This happens then
wicked junco
I was kinda trying to avoid having to use him and stick to the gimmick as much as possible
I'll try a few more times with SummerSteven with a bit of Cold Snap, see if I can steal enough turns to get him to work
And if not, I'll have to use the Gameshark 
Man if only SummerSteven had at least Endurance
peak stirrup
Will NC Red + Irida be enough to overcome Wise Entry from Drake?
silver dirge
Yes, absolutely
north crown
well at least theoretically
silver dirge
Wise Entry x2 is not the end of the world, people overestimate it. It's just as if you're off-typing with your on-type units, but don't lose SE bonuses & the Standard DR param
Irida & NC Red can definitely handle that without a 2nd thought
sharp willow
Irida and NC Red together are able to off type ultimate battles, wise entry champion stadium isn't gonna stop em
silver dirge
Precisely
keen jasper
Irida and NC Red together are able to off type ultimate battles, wise entry cham...
Well, Irida and NC Red were able to off-type an EB with Wise Entry x2
verbal karma
...okay, Aaron/BP Valerie/Clemont is simply not working out no matter what
I might be going at this the completely wrong way, considering BP Valerie is doing much worse than Mina
north crown
r u doing TM, PR, PR, PR, PR, SD? That SEUP would be v helpful to maximize sync dmg
verbal karma
I am using Valeri's TM twice before using her first Sword Dance, then do two PRs and then do another Sword Dance to max her atk
north crown
how odd...
waitaminute. weren't you playing during the eevee egg event? odds are, you should've been able to get at least 1 sylveon/fairy sync move type eevee.
mellow linden
I was gonna say, Egg Sylveon likely is gonna help more than Defense debuffs
And don’t forget to make sure Valerie is getting a minimum of +4 Attack and +3 crit by the time you reach 1st Sync at the absolute earliest
silver dirge
I recall them not having egg Sylveon but I may be remembering incorrectly
mellow linden
Could dual damage-dealer with BP Valerie + Mina then, maybe
Assuming gauge is fine
verbal karma
Oh, replacing BP Clemont with Egg Sylveon was a bad idea
silver dirge
Oh you do have it then, ignore my misinformation above. That should be a breezy clear, not sure where it's going wrong
verbal karma
Had to replace "No WTZ Change" with "Atk ^5", and now my support can't even survive for long enough to do the first sync
Aaron just...dies in 3 moves
mellow linden
That sounds like the opponent went full offense with strongest moves
manic kiln
you need to roll for a run with buff and not atk moves, it's normal
reset is a part of CS
mellow linden
Which is not guaranteed
Yeah, resets are a fact of life for Master Mode
Be it good early move RNG, MP Refresh RNG, or other
manic kiln
using budget options with OP units you don't have to reset tho
silver dirge
Sidney also has Furious brain & Grand entry 2 so he is in fact going to he hitting hard on offensive CS
verbal karma
...why does Water Pulse remove 40-45% of Aaron's HP?!
formal vigil
do you have staggering gridded on aaron or healthy buffer?
verbal karma
...err...this is Aaron's grid
nocturne pawn
that is the staggering grid isnt it
also you dont need mgr on defend order its only 1 gauge
id get precision pals instead
verbal karma
damn
even with the new changes
BP Valerie cannot beat mid with her sync
she can only get the mid to 10-15% of his HP before he does his sync
alright, leveled up BP Valerie, and now I am back to the same situation as I was with Mina: mid gets defeated, but then I die because of the sides spamming Heat Wave
except I need way more resets with BP Valerie to get to that point than with Mina
and sadly, I can only do one Attack Order since the Move Gauge doesn't fill up fast enough
versed meteor
Man 3k fire weak glacia is not easy
Now i know why DeNA actually makes units for the types that we already have good legendary adventure units for
versed meteor
What did you use?
sharp willow
Serena, Silver and SS Morty
SS Morty wasnt required but the sun setting was nice to make it go faster
Hypnosis sleep chaining was the main thing
versed meteor
Hypnosis sleep chain
never tried it before so i assume that am not trying that now
Wonder if hilda can carry instead
long thicket
Oh, holy...
Hala's sync is BRUTAL
Now yes, I had EX support sync first plus Irida's ice buff, but still.
versed meteor
As long as he cleared the stage
These days i just brute force ice weak with nc red
long thicket
I didn't really use him as a damage dealer before EXing due to his ice damage being gauge-heavy (thus I instead went with some EX Tech Ice), but dang.
Now let's see how the more recent Fire units handle Glacia's stage.
For some reason, I struggled making good damage despite having great options.
lunar meadow
Oh, holy...
Hala's sync is BRUTAL
Crab pre-sync was what I was still using at 2k clears, and I think at 2.5k as well
fiery canopy
glacia is always so annoying
not sure if my usual silver/sonia/blaine team is gonna cut it
fiery canopy
they are Not cutting it
any better recs
long thicket
Also, OG Valerie clears with solid teambuilding.
25k sync damage.
And I almost feel bad for Electric-weak stages ever since the 3rd anni.
crystal quartz
Is there a point of trying to get as many type medals as possible in 1 run when I can just split it between 2 runs?
Why is hoenn champion stadium 10x harder than sinnoh?
mellow linden
Is there a point of trying to get as many type medals as possible in 1 run when ...
Generally you wanna shoot for 9-12 types on week one so that you can have a good balance of type medal progress and ease of clearing
mellow linden
Why is hoenn champion stadium 10x harder than sinnoh?
Sinnoh and Hoenn are more roster-dependent when it comes to which one you’ll find harder
Make sure to read the stage gimmicks via the pins (there’s a pinned message with an overview of the gimmicks this week and another pinned message with a link to pomatools’ CS section so you can see all the moves and gimmicks of the various stages for both this week and future weeks)
crystal quartz
Make sure to read the stage gimmicks via the pins (there’s a pinned message with...
It is so hard to abuse a gimmick of better debuffs
mellow linden
Don’t try to shoehorn the round parameters
The only one with significant impact is round 3, and that impact is moreso on who to avoid for that round rather than what team should be used
crystal quartz
The only one with significant impact is round 3, and that impact is moreso on wh...
I cant beat anyone on round 2
mellow linden
Who’d you face on round 1?
crystal quartz
Who’d you face on round 1?
Phoebe
The top right one is always the easiest
I tried glacia but silver is too weak and hilda kills herself as soon as she uses flare blitz once
mellow linden
Could try going against Glacia for round 2, remember to bring weather other than Hail to counteract her gimmick, and keep in mind that you may just have to reset so she doesn’t spam Blizzard (and there’s nothing wrong with that, restarting the fight is a big part of Champion Stadium)
Silver really wants an external Sun setter, but he should work for Hard Mode just fine
crystal quartz
Silver really wants an external Sun setter, but he should work for Hard Mode jus...
He doesnt do enough damage and dies to blizzard
mellow linden
Well like I said, you may need to reset to avoid too many Blizzards, that’s just how Fire weak Glacia is
As for damage output, assuming you have a Sun setter (other than Silver himself, since he only sets Sun on Sync Move) his damage should work fine for Hard Mode
crystal quartz
I cant get dynamax flare off without gordon dying
And then I have to reset any time someone gets frozen
Even after I kill glacia that stupid damn pengiun spams blizzard with no cooldown
mellow linden
What’s the team?
crystal quartz
What’s the team?
Lyra, silver, gordon
mellow linden
I’d recommend a bulkier Attack + crit Support than Lyra and replacing Gordie with someone that has Sunny Day if running Silver
crystal quartz
I’d recommend a bulkier Attack + crit Support than Lyra and replacing Gordie wit...
The only other one with sunny day I have is eirika who is a greedy support
mellow linden
No Blaine?
crystal quartz
No Blaine?
Hes not leveled
mellow linden
Level 120 is cheap and all he needs
mellow linden
They do different things other than setting Sun and Blaine doesn’t need to provide buffs
Blaine is a good long-term investment anyway since all he needs is level 120 to do his job
If you’d prefer to off-type or find a different Fire damage-dealer than Silver then we can take a look at your roster to see what’s available
crystal quartz
I hate glacia
mellow linden
She can be annoying sometimes since she can decide to just choose violence, yeah
mellow linden
It’s not impossible
People have done it using exclusively free Sync Pairs on Master Mode in the past
crystal quartz
Drake is also impossible
He does too much damage
And I cant use my special attackers because its round 2
mellow linden
He is not impossible
left storm
He's very very annoying but possible
mellow linden
And the Round 2 effect is ignored by critical hits, though you don’t want to use special damage-dealers against Drake anyway because Wise Entry x2
mellow linden
You said limited
In your recommendation
That’s why I pointed out Hala, because he’s gen pool
left storm
Well yeah because any of them makes it way easier
Hala works but only with ex really
While other limiteds can work without
mellow linden
He won’t need EX for Hard Mode
mellow linden
Anyway, bring a weather setter that does not set Sandstorm + Hala + a gauge Support (if they can give +1 crit even better) and watch as all returns to crab
crystal quartz
Nah, Hala slaps Drake for Hard Mode
Hala gets destroyed
mellow linden
He won’t with a proper team
crystal quartz
Move guage goes to slow
mellow linden
That’s why I said bring a gauge Support
crystal quartz
That’s why I said bring a gauge Support
I did but it didnt work
mellow linden
What team did you use
crystal quartz
What team did you use
Lilie, hala, phoebe
mellow linden
- You didn’t bring a proper weather setter
- Gauge support almost always refers to a Speed buffer or someone who provides Move Gauge Acceleration, I could’ve explained that one more
But first and foremost the lack of someone to replace Sandstorm is a big problem
Because Drake deals way more damage if Sandstorm is active
crystal quartz
But first and foremost the lack of someone to replace Sandstorm is a big problem
I dont have anyone with hail
mellow linden
It doesn’t need to be Hail
Just something that is not Sandstorm
And Candice + Abomasnow is a 3-star, you likely have her anyway
mellow linden
What's the team?
crystal quartz
What's the team?
Lilie, phoebe, valerie
Then I swapped to faulkner, valerie, hop
But hop takes 600 damage in one move
mellow linden
Hop should work plenty fine as the Support in Hard Mode, maybe consider replacing Falkner with someone who can lower the opponents' Sp. Atk. like Viola to get rid of Sidney's Furious Brain multiplier, or replacing Falkner with a Defense debuffer to further increase Valerie + Mawile's damage (note that if you're actually referring to Valerie + Sylveon then you'll want to run a different damage-dealer)
rotund lagoon
Also if you’re just gonna keep complaining…. #salt-channel please
They’re trying their best to help you :T
crystal quartz
I beat drake without an ice type
Going for type advantage sucks
I barely beat sydney with only cyrus alive with 1 hp left
rotund lagoon
Type advantage…? Like on-type?
crystal quartz
Type advantage…? Like on-type?
You dont know what type advantage is?
rotund lagoon
I’m just trying to clarify, cause it may just be a different term or I’m misthinking
crystal quartz
It means you do super effective damage or the enemy does not very effective damage
rotund lagoon
So here’s the thing about that
We say on type mainly because of it being the general consensus and the enemy is fixed to one weakness
crystal quartz
I dont think I can beat glacia
rotund lagoon
There are no resistances/immunities
crystal quartz
I dont think I can beat glacia
Blizzard is so annoying
And all my dps units I have left have no special def
rotund lagoon
Are you asking for help or are you going to complain?
old orchid
Drake has Wise Entry x2, so either use physical Ice dmg dealers (Candice, Hala,...) or use heavy supports for Ghetsis
grand trout
Does aoe nerf apply to opponents too?
old orchid
yes
tulip python
toxic cobalt
Wow this week is weather central
silver dirge
Two entry gimmicks, 3 weather changes & 1 status gimmick
keen jasper
Drake really wants you to have Irida
toxic cobalt
Is there a reason sun is specifically recommended for Glacia?
silver dirge
Fire weak
toxic cobalt
silver dirge
Also cos I ran out of character space
sick inlet
Two entry gimmicks, 3 weather changes & 1 status gimmick
||Two entry gimmicks, 3 weather changes & 1 son of a •••••||
undone ether
wut? who has a status gimmick? o-o
silver dirge
check the pins bestie it's all there
sick inlet
wut? who has a status gimmick? o-o
The son of a •••••
undone ether
Oh phoebe
silver dirge
||Two entry gimmicks, 3 weather changes & 1 son of a •••••||
What obscure solo of yours is she preventing
undone ether
(was looking at Week 181 chartwww)
nocturne pawn
sidney also has go viral twave
sick inlet
<:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158> What obscure solo of yours is she preventing
I can't solo this week, Sidney screws me royally