#Champion Stadium

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versed mural
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Gakon helped me with most of them

old orchid
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thats a weird stall team on Cynthia

versed mural
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I just took two supports who healed and said yolo

toxic cobalt
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Immediate Grusha use

versed mural
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One mistake I made with the params is I used Tech x3 DMG instead of Striker x3 DMG on Cynthia

lean lion
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Sorry for pinging but I'm having another problem. Running Blaine + EX SS Blue. But Hilda is 2/5 so I'm not maxing crit. Should I go with another supp?

sick inlet
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Hilda can max crit with her grid

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Oh

lean lion
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She needs 3/5 no?

sick inlet
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Ye

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Is your blue not 3/5 too?

lean lion
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Only 1/5

sick inlet
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What supports do you have?

lean lion
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Wait ill send a picture of all my supp and the teams I'm using

sick inlet
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Ok

lean lion
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For Lucian I'm gonna replace Karen with Sidney

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And I have 1/5 Gordie if he'll be better for Sun + Fire rebuff with Hilda

swift swan
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can try falkner, I suppose

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helps with the flinches too

old orchid
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Falkner is a bit frail

sick inlet
old orchid
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I would try Hop

sick inlet
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Falkner can fully boost offenses

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Hop already in the dark team

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But we can change hop from dark team, since they don't need that extra crit/defenses

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If you use Hop instead of SSBlue
You can put SS blue on the other team

lean lion
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I'll have to rely on Blue's passive to max Serena's atk though

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Max crit but only +2 atk on TM

swift swan
lean lion
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How about Shauna instead?

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Yeah nc Serena

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Then I can use SS Blue with Red instead of Skyla

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He doesn't need that much help anyway

sick inlet
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Serena doesn't even need max atk SophoKEK

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But yes

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You can do that

lean lion
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Alright gonna try

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Thanks!

sick inlet
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You can thank me after clearing TabithaHehe

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I am trying to do R1 Flint with NC Rosa and SS Lana, but...I can't beat Flint before he syncs, and neither NC Rosa nor SS Lana can survive his sync

sick inlet
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What are your parameters?

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These units are bulky

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If they're dying to sync

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Then you're running heavily offensive presync

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Parameters

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O i need to read better, SS lana not lana
Well nc Rosa still bulky

astral jolt
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I need help with CS, I'll share my units and if you can just tell me the teams I'll try to use em

astral jolt
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Have not started with any battle need 2 pieces dark and ground

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sick inlet
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Yeah you're doing hyper offensive parameter

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You cannot afford taking a sync

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Even if you eat a sync and live, you won't survive past it

dark osprey
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Ss Lana may find it difficult to finish off Flint in time unless using sleep hax from NC Rosa

sick inlet
manic kiln
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What’s the 3rd member, use a def debuff

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Delay your sync

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Stack pmun

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dark osprey
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Flint already has high sp atk stat plus +2 sp atk and high bulk

manic kiln
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Rosa bmove then 2 TM, lana TM then use terrain twice. Debuff defense. Sync with ex support then Bmove lana to clear

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Ditch ssdawn, deadweight, use bp clemont

sick inlet
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And yeah, I am already using NC Rosa's TM

manic kiln
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She gains PMUN whenever a wtz is actived

sick inlet
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The idea is stacking pmun to one shot

manic kiln
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Delay your sync till you use all buff, debuff

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That was with 8 PMUN and -6 def for mid, sides are weak don’t need to debuff them

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Non ex lana

sick inlet
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Sheesh fonni numbars

manic kiln
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Full str and atk parameters

versed mural
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Wait Neo Psycho Cut is physical?

sick inlet
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Psycho cut is physical so yeah i guess?

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I don't have de unit

versed mural
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The more you know

silver dirge
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She's one of the only physical psychic units

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2nd only to Tate TabithaHehe

sick inlet
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Zen headbutt Deoxys duh

manic kiln
sick inlet
silver dirge
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Lowkey tho

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With NC Rosa's rebuff and the PMUNs

versed mural
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Isn't it funny how people struggle to have a good support without NC Rosa but I have NC Rosa but No units that are strong and pair with her very well ok maybe a few but mostly nothing

steel kelp
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Skill issue

sick inlet
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NC Rosa is a bit unique, she can pretty much support all types. Just focuses on 2 with rebuffs

steel kelp
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The rebuffs are neat but you stay for the consistent stacking

versed mural
steel kelp
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Like SS acerola is pretty nuts with grass because terrain on entry and extended but that doesn’t mean you can’t also use her with other physical units

grand trout
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Man ariana is insane

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She really told cynthia "Yes, and?"

manic kiln
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A homewrecker CynthiaSmug

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ariana stole cynthia’s man and now beat her

steel kelp
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Cynthia consistently being the easiest part of sinnoh cs

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Next week will be I can do the funny

silver dirge
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The Champions are rarely ever the hard stages

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Ever heard of Poison weak Wallace? Don't think so. But Steel Weak Glacia will send a shiver down your spine

manic kiln
versed mural
steel kelp
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Just put the granny to sleep EthanGenius

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I can't access this thread's pins for some reasons on my phone

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and I can't get to my notebook atm

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Anyone knows how to access thread pins on mobile?

formal vigil
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Click on the top go to settings

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Then click pinned messages

sick inlet
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Oh

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Thanks

rose ermine
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Will this work for 4.2k

old orchid
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you need a weather changer on Bertha

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the rest is good to go

rose ermine
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Nothing else would work with ghetsis tho

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Since he eats gauge

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I need that speed buff from lucian

old orchid
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what move level is your Leaf?

steel kelp
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Leaf is your battery

old orchid
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some weather tech like Winona and Blaine can generate gauge

rose ermine
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Leaf is 1

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how does winona generate gauge?

old orchid
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speed buffs from TM + Racing Rain

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is Ghetsis gridded with TM MPR? he wont get max offensive buffs in that team

rose ermine
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so replace winona for lucian?

old orchid
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i would change both Lucian and Leaf

rose ermine
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leaf to?

old orchid
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she doesnt help Ghetsis much at 1/5

rose ermine
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should i add SSA/Aaron?

steel kelp
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They don’t help ghetsis

old orchid
lean lion
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Thanks so much though! I know it'll be better with the changes you suggested.

verbal karma
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Was I...not supposed to use a Special Attacker?

manic kiln
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you can, probably have to postsync tho

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Oh

mellow linden
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Dark weak Lucian has Wise Entry x2, iirc

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I mean, I am also using a Sp. Def debuffer

silver dirge
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What's Caitlin doing there anyway

steel kelp
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That’s not what wise entry x2 does

mellow linden
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X2 means the base stat is doubled

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Problem is that Karen's sync hits like wet paper

mellow linden
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Because of WEx2

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mellow linden
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It’s not Karen’s fault

steel kelp
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And how’s Karen getting buffs

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mellow linden
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Affordable physical Dark team is Masked Royal + Nessa + Attack/crit Support (Hop is a cheap one)

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Oof...Masked Royal...

mellow linden
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Depending on your roster more expensive options may be available

steel kelp
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What he’s not bad

mellow linden
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Yeah, Masked Royal is a great nuker

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steel kelp
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I did it with him and filbert

mellow linden
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If you must avoid using MR then Sidney can work as the nuker

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Here are my Dark type pairs

mellow linden
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I’m assuming Fall Hilbert isn’t an option due to the level 1, so nothing really changes from what I’ve brought up except for BP Karen being able to replace Nessa if you have a lot of healing

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mellow linden
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Nessa replacement option

steel kelp
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Spur on is also helpful

mellow linden
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Not really necessary

steel kelp
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I keep forgetting nessa is an option

mellow linden
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Anyway, Masked Royal/Sidney, Nessa/BP Karen/Fall Hilbert, and an Attack + crit Support is an easy physical Dark team

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Also, for future reference Karen absolutely needs at least a Sp. Atk. or crit buffing Support

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Fall Caitlin is a terrible Support for her

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If you can get both Sp. Atk. and crit from the Support that’s fantastic

steel kelp
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I think I’ve seen they have sc jasmine or something

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Maybe someone else

manic kiln
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WEx2 they said DawnNom

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but using physical is easier MaskedWOOyal

rose ermine
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Why won't mid die

silver dirge
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Do have No Status conditions enabled?

rich needle
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How’s the mid at full hp tho

rose ermine
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wait

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ah shit

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i didnt turn off no offtype damage red

nocturne pawn
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archer works surprisingly well with nc calem

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Almost...

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Can beat mid before sync, but can't survive AoE from side

lean lion
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Sidney + NCSerena is kinda good wow

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Got 2.5k first attempt pretty easily

nocturne pawn
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why does cynthia have fucking fire blast oh my god

versed mural
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Hostile Environment 4

rotund lagoon
undone ether
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teh sides have hostile environment 2 😭

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Teh right one only has Fire Punch once, but the left one has Blizzard

nocturne pawn
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which is stupid

versed mural
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hopefully tai is proud

undone ether
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thank god that Ball Guy exists ;_;l

versed mural
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Just had to get lucky with His TM MPR

nocturne pawn
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GREAT NOW IT FUCKING CRIT

versed mural
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skill issue

tardy belfry
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melony is a good counter to cynthia this week

versed mural
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How?

tardy belfry
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in terms of extended safeguard and spdef buff

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nullifies her hostile environment

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also buffs accuracy for your DPS if you're doing post sync but not stalling

sick inlet
calm marsh
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No wonder Marnie deal less than i expect

manic kiln
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yeah but still easy for her

silver dirge
grand trout
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Who did y'all use for half sync

nocturne pawn
short karma
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Is there somewhere I can find a guide for optimal/easy 3k parameters?

silver dirge
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There's a guide in the pins with some tips, but it doesn't have a set of parameters since they're really dependent on the individual stage & team you're using

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Doesn't help that this team is sadly extremely inconsistent: Hop dies before the enemy syncs, like, 80% of the time

mellow linden
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Can try Aaron then, just make sure that like Hop he’s gridded for MP Refresh so he can max the team’s Attack and crit

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Also, just in case you’re not doing it already, make sure to use Brutal Swing on Masked Royal so he can apply Defense debuffs to the sides as well, that + the bit of chip damage will help make cleanup easier

swift swan
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A lot of psychic types love sync accel and thrive from half sync

sharp willow
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also went Flint bc mega syncs

mellow linden
steel kelp
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tho I couldve picked any of them for r1

rotund lagoon
undone ether
versed mural
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Should the teams I used for 7.5k work for 8.5?

lunar rose
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why does lucian take 0 damage

undone ether
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what's your team?

lunar rose
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nc marnie nc calem and misty duck as filler

mellow linden
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A few things:

  • Blue is contributing basically nothing to an SST Red team, I’d recommend replacing him with a 2nd Electric damage-dealer and adjusting the Support as necessary.
  • Giovanni really wants reliable Sp. Atk. buffs from the Support.
  • Silver ideally wants a 2nd Sun setter due to how reliant his damage is on Sun being active.
  • If Poison stalling Cynthia you may want to adjust the team to include an offensive debuffer. If you’re running Lucy as a damage-dealer I’d recommend going with a dual damage-dealer setup alongside Roxie + Scolipede (Looker works too if you have him).
mellow linden
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So he takes way less damage from special moves

lunar rose
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ok nc serena it is

mellow linden
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NC Marnie under Dark Zone should still be able to win with relative ease if the parameters are fine, but if you have the ability to run physical it’ll likely be smoother

lunar rose
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wait

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im a moron

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i know what is wrong

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i still had special reduction 8 on

mellow linden
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It happens

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I’ve had the wrong Damage Reduction 8 turned on plenty of times, it’s an easy mistake to make

versed mural
mellow linden
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If you use Roxie + Lucy replace Sycamore

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Shauna is the better Support for Roxie + Lucy

versed mural
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Oh ok but what about Burn?

mellow linden
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It’s not guaranteed, so can just reset if it ends up being a problem

versed mural
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Alright Thanks

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Everything else is okay?

mellow linden
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Should be alright to try, if something isn’t working we can always help troubleshoot

versed mural
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Alright Thanks!

crystal notch
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who was r5 cynthia made for when it first released?

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he4 he2 sides

sharp willow
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SS Gio it would seem

crystal notch
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does he have like flameproof

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or did they just expect him to nuke cynthia down so it doesn't matter

sharp willow
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nah its just a stage that does poison weak stage things

crystal notch
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HE4 + r5 param though, DeNA should get out of the kitchen

sharp willow
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they get the hostile environment parameter included with them, they usually want you to poison them

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game tells you to use swimsuit misty for the burns specifically, Giovanni is recommended bc she has a post sync evasion gimmick apparently

crystal notch
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she does

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+3 eva I think?

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after sync

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so just pre sync her

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also +1 sp atk for every eva

sharp willow
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yeah ive literally never gotten to her sync move without resetting before

lean lion
sick inlet
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That's great, sinnoh is notoriously known as one of the hardest CSMM.
You're doing a great job TabithaHehe

full anvil
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well at least this week is easier

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last week haunted me

lean lion
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I'm having a lot of fun. Love the challenge.

lean lion
full anvil
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i offtyped it with nc leaf

lean lion
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I had to go with what I had cause low on resources. But next time I'll be ready with a proper team for her

rotund lagoon
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Me who beat it in 2.5k with Registeel as tank and damage dealer Solgaleo KEKDOGE KEKDOGE KEKDOGE

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Dudes hate the Ground moves, but they still did it, whether they liked it or not FlanneryBurn

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but sadly, the other side still lives for long enough to fuck me up

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...I know this team is doable for R2 Lucian, so I don't wanna give up on it just yet...but how can I possibly improve it?

formal vigil
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why not use sonia over hop?

verbal karma
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because Sonia won't allow me to quadqueue due to her passive

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while Hop has Adrenaline

formal vigil
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though anyways might be worth weaking the sides with jaw lock before killing mid

mellow linden
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You can just use Aaron or, if using Sonia, reset until the opponent doesn’t use a damage move right before your 1st Sync

formal vigil
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shouldn't you be syncing sidney first anyways?

mellow linden
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If using Sidney it’s worth a shot at Syncing with him 1st and seeing if that works out, yeah

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Anyway, for the alternative Supports, make sure that Aaron is gridded with MP Refresh if using him and that Sonia is gridded with Trainer Move MP Refresh and Critical Squad if using her, so that the team can be at max Attack and crit

verbal karma
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hmm...hold on, lemme try out James first idea first

rain turret
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this week's stadium was way easier to get 15k

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okay, James' idea of weakining the sides DID work

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thanks, James

rain turret
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I posted my teams on #1010274591601598555

formal vigil
dense birch
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why do enemy syncs ignore endure 😢

mellow linden
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All Sync Moves ignore Endure

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Both yours and the opponent’s

dense birch
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yeah i was trying some kind of endure strat to survive 1 sync, but it doesn't work. haha

north crown
dense birch
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First time 12.5k. I am loving poison stall a lot. Haha

rotund lagoon
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Poison stall be like
You: GanonDance

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Enemy: diesofcringe

dense birch
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yea

lean lion
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Your teams bud?

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And params if you don't mind

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I wanna try and go for 12k+ this week too

dense birch
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pretty much standard 2.5k presets

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R1 is very reset heavy, would not recommend. lol

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you have to quadqueue blast burn into flame wheel to bypass endurance

lean lion
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Ghetsis working well against Bertha? I find it Guage becomes a problem when I use him

dense birch
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ghetsis is ok. pray for some freeze procs

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winona to reset weather and random flinch

lean lion
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I'm off typing Bertha with Red this week

dense birch
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blue helps with x defense all, so that ghetsis doesn't die after 1 sync. pray they don't use EQ too much

lean lion
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Got 2350 on latest attempt

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Maybe Red is good enough for 2.5k

dense birch
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originally had shauna for lucian tank, but she is psychic weak. hop fills same role (Atk/crit). could try aaron too

dense birch
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with EX'ed SSB, he does first sync for the +2 sync buff. then ghetsis' next sync will wipe out nidoking

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i was thinking of off-typing bertha with SST Red too, but worried about earth weakness

lean lion
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Oh yeah

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One Earthquake eats 80% of Red's health

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But i can pre-sync so I just have to hope for no Earthquakes before that

dense birch
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ghetsis needs to be gridded for glaciate accuracy. miss generally equals reset

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also it's pretty hard to use ghetsis because of 4 bar limit, and glaciate uses 4 bars

lean lion
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Yeah this

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I have 2/5 Hala, maybe he could work

dense birch
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good thing about SSB is he effectively has 4 TM moves

steel kelp
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Hala works

lean lion
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Also has haymaker at 2/5 so

steel kelp
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I haven’t used him in forever but he’s good

dense birch
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i want to try Hala someday, but i think i will wait until i EX him first or something. lol

lean lion
steel kelp
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Wait how is ghetsis getting his buffs

dense birch
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i do mga > x def > x def > mga, then it's kinda pray you have enough speed

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team shout lol

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originally i had roxanne. but she dies in 2 hits

steel kelp
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Rng

dense birch
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live and die by rng

lean lion
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Talk about RNG. It was hell trying to land poison on all 3 enemies with Koga. Regret not picking BP Erica now, can't wait to get her.

dense birch
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you can do like water pulse and try to squeeze out time to queue glaciate. i save both of winona's TM's for after blue uses sync

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do you have drasna?

lean lion
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Yeah 1/5

dense birch
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drasna easy toxic

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just use her

lean lion
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She has guaranteed poison?

dense birch
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R5 has status up iirc

lean lion
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I'll give it a try

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12.5k is very impressive though man. Well done!

dense birch
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my comp is a bit jank. i rely on sycamore recuperation to tank. drasna has super freebie 9, so after you toxic, you can kinda spam sludge bomb for free moves to build up sync (until you start missing togekiss anyway)

grand trout
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Does he4 mean flint burns 50% of the time?

dark osprey
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Yes

lean lion
dense birch
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yeah i did poison stall. so janine/ariados for venom drench spam to get them to -6 atk/spatk, and watch them do 50 dmg per attack

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very safe

lean lion
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So just outlive them?

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Sounds hilarious I have to try this lol

dense birch
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yes

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for the tank, i recommend someone that has some form of healing, and anti-burn. you shouldn't need too many heals

lean lion
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Will try Aaron

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Oh i dont need Sycamore elsewhere either

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Thanks! Gonna try it

tulip python
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Hmm is there a recommended order for this round?

My current plan is Flint—>Lucian—> Bertha—> Aron

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Just cause round 4 Aron is gonna get seriously wrecked by

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N

sharp willow
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only real advice is "use your strongest team first"

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or a team that has a character that really wants their mega sync since half sync cooldown

swift swan
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R1 is the only real threat

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the rest is pretty free

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just be mindful R3 prevents quadqueue

tulip python
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Woo that was simpler than last week

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Very satisfying to see Bertha die

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Articuno you’re a god send

silver dirge
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She has much lower HP this week

tulip python
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Thank god

silver dirge
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And sand is easier to deal with than HS1

tulip python
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Yeah

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Aron went down nicely too. Thank you Reshi and Moltres stacking

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All on type this week too.

keen jasper
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Hooboy, I YOLO-ed the shit out of Cynthia with SS Roxie and Emma

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Using half-sync param against her

sick inlet
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SS Roxie be wildin

versed meteor
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Flint with +3 att and special param can one shot holi Jasmine SycamorePanic

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Stopped by endurance but still

keen jasper
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I wonder how much STR and offensive params you put

versed meteor
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+6 +2 +1 all onClairPrideful

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Also nothing feels better than putting bertha in a dumpster in her own weather

lean lion
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Can Blaine do decent damage if I grid him properly? I could really use something extra damage against Aaron. Running Blaine Hilda Hop.

manic kiln
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Hilda is better for both regular dmg and sync

keen jasper
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His DPS is ass, but his nuke is strong

manic kiln
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blaine most of the time will be used as sun bot, there are better fire units

keen jasper
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And yeah, Hilda is definitely better than Blaine

dark osprey
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Blaine does help with the burn, trap and if needed with full grid can guaranteed crit nuke plus set sun on sync. Would be better paired with Silver than 2/5 Hilda though because 2/5 Hilda really can't afford to do dps

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Can experiment with a burn stall with Blaine, Skyla and an attack debuffer like probably Mina or something for 2.5 K since Aaron does take quite a bit of damage with burn

lean lion
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Why does my Hilda keep missing crits with max crit?

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Condition defense shield prevents crits?

mellow linden
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Is it on Sync Move?

lean lion
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Yeah

mellow linden
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Sync Moves have an innate -1 crit

lean lion
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I've missed the 2.5k winning crit thrice now

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So annoying

mellow linden
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It happens, fortunately it’s only a 20% chance, so odds are in your favor

lean lion
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And I have to pre sync or I get nuked, so gotta get quad queue right. Only to then miss the final crit. Very frustrating. Oh well

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Okay i got it

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Finally

hushed lintel
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I am trying to make Ss N with Grusha and NC Nate work against weak ice for 3k

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But I am not sure how I should play out the parameters

hushed lintel
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Nvm I managed my 15 k this week ClairPrideful

crystal quartz
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How do I even do duos?

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They just never do enough damage

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Also how do I tell what medals dual type units are applicable for?

left storm
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Sync determines the unit type

crystal quartz
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How do I beat flint?

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His side units do too much damage

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And Im not using a tank this fight

crystal quartz
left storm
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The primary one is the deciding one

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Calem is dark

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Serena is water

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Silvally is normal

crystal quartz
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Flint is impossible while going for medals

left storm
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Is it base stadium?

crystal quartz
left storm
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He's not that bad, bring a debuffer or two

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Or units with burn immunity

crystal quartz
left storm
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In any other of the 5 stages?

rotund lagoon
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It really isn’t going to help if all you do when “asking for help” is to complain.

left storm
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I recommend BP Olivia as a support against him if you're really desperate for a rock type there

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She's pretty fine for the stage

crystal quartz
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And they suck

left storm
left storm
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How new is your account?

crystal quartz
left storm
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And Gordie is better suited for a fire weak stage

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Since he rebuffs

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Use him against aaron

crystal quartz
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I was going against aaron this entire time

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I have very bad memory

left storm
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Mhhh

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Weird, Aaron sides aren't that strong

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It's heracross that's usually problematic

crystal quartz
left storm
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Who are you using to buff defences

crystal quartz
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Im going pure power

left storm
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Gordie is ground weak so I definitely can see EQ doing half

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Idk why swift would do as much

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Tho

knotty storm
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Why not use a support tho?

left storm
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Also who's the DPS unit

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Depending on the DPS doing support might be more worth than damage

knotty storm
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Yeah just gives you ease of mind if you want to stop dying to random stuff

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Gordie + Hilda + support should be an amazing play

crystal quartz
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He dies before I kill herracross

crystal quartz
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Gordie

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Eirika

knotty storm
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Are your units lvl 120 ?

crystal quartz
knotty storm
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Remove erika

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And pick a support

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Who do you have as support ?

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And what move lvl is your gordie ?

crystal quartz
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Oh wait

knotty storm
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Idt you need it

crystal quartz
knotty storm
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Plus Silver brings sun with sync

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I would use shauna probably

rotund lagoon
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Every proper team needs a proper Support, you are going to need to know those fundamentals to beat these stages.

crystal quartz
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I hate aaron

crystal quartz
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I need to save grass for another stage

knotty storm
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I have tried it works

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  • gordie dynamax brings sun
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You should have no trouble

crystal quartz
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Piers is useless

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He does nothing

mellow linden
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He does things

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He can max crit and help the gauge

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Obstruct is a more niche tool, but it also has its uses

knotty storm
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You should take in the advices man

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Use shauna to increase atk, gordies dynamax to bring sun + fire debuff, sync with silver

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Wise use of Obstruct will immensely increase his survivability

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Also he can definitely take at least some hits, if he's getting one-shot from full health regardless of move then you're running him way below level 120

knotty storm
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This tbh

crystal quartz
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I WON

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why does obstruct have to be used at such specific times

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Hes such a niche tank

mellow linden
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Obstruct messes with the Sync countdown in most situations, so it takes more planning to use well

crystal quartz
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I thought he was gonna die because I used the move gauge up instead of obstructing and they had like 1 hp

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Who should I fight now?

mellow linden
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Well even if your Support goes down that doesn't automatically mean a loss

mellow linden
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Actually, it doesn't really matter

crystal quartz
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Wait your previous medals carry over?

mellow linden
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The most impactful round parameter is the one that sets Reflect at the start, and that's only because it prevents quadqueue

mellow linden
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So if you complete the type medal and beat the Champion this week you'll have Master Mode unlocked for Sinnoh CS forever

knotty storm
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And you can get a max of 15 medals in a week out of the 18

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Each region has its own type medal

crystal quartz
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Why does it say in progress

mellow linden
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Because you haven't beaten the Champion this week

crystal quartz
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Oh

mellow linden
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Like I said, it saves if you beat the Champion that week

knotty storm
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You need to beat the champion

crystal quartz
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Also I used acreola last champion week

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So why dont I have ghost

mellow linden
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Did you beat the Champion last week?

crystal quartz
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Cynthia was easier than flint

mellow linden
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If you used a Ghost type Sync Pair on the same week that you beat a Champion then Ghost should be filled out, it's possible that you mixed up weeks or something

crystal quartz
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You told me to level acreola last week

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And thats also the only week I got further than bertha

dense birch
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Check if you have hall of fame entry lol

mellow linden
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Iirc you abandoned the CS chat midway through CS last week

dense birch
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Hall of fame won’t lie. Lol

grave wyvern
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If Acerola isn't in your Hall of Fame, it did not count

crystal quartz
crystal quartz
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I have no idea how to beat the other elite 4 while getting medals

mellow linden
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If we recommended investing resources it would have been with good reason. Worst case scenario you can always wait a day or 2 since it's a week long

crystal quartz
dense birch
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Oooft

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For what it’s worth. I think Rock is a very easy medal to fit in since Roxanne is quite flexible

mellow linden
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No one specifically called out Brock as a recommendation, you chose to do that yourself.

Anyway, Nessa can help with Lucian due to Jaw Lock providing Dark coverage and Nessa herself covering Water on the medal. Ice and Poison are types you need to cover on the medal, so teams for Bertha and Cynthia already have good starting points

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Aaron is a good Attack + crit Support in general and provides Bug for type medal

rotund lagoon
dense birch
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Yeah gordie is 100% good. I tried him out this week

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I didn’t play swsh so i have zero attachment to their chars except sonia and marnie who i see everywhere lol

crystal quartz
dense birch
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But yes i am hoping he didn’t level brock for his rock medal…

mellow linden
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Or Roark

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Who is a 3-star option that is quite good

crystal quartz
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Anyway I beat flint

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They were quite easy

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I used cyrus, gladion, and sycamore

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But that means I dont have sycamore anymore

mellow linden
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Which Elite 4 have you beaten thus far, for reference purposes

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Flint and?

crystal quartz
crystal quartz
mellow linden
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So Bertha and Lucian then, alright. Can get a minimum of at least Ice done against Bertha since she's weak to it and Nessa can provide at least a portion of damage output via Jaw Lock while filling Water on the medal against Lucian

crystal quartz
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I dont know how I didnt get dragon medal last week

dense birch
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Check what you used for hall of fame lol

mellow linden
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Hala and Ghetsis

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Both are great options

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Level 120 is cheap, or just use Ghetsis

crystal quartz
dense birch
mellow linden
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Hala is good, idk who told you he "sucked"

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Assuming they even used those words in the first place and didn't specify certain situations where he's less valuable

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Anyway, either Hala or Ghetsis will fill out Ice

crystal quartz
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Wow bertha sucks

crystal quartz
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And used acerola

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Also no one ever told me faulkner is an amazing tank

dense birch
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Just gotta read their kits bro

mellow linden
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He's not very bulky, per se, but if you don't need to worry about the Sync countdown then Fly dodges a lot of moves

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Plus Falkner can flinch

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Which is always helpful

rotund lagoon
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Do you need our help anymore if you are able to clear now? ^^;;;

crystal quartz
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How do I get bug badge

mellow linden
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Aaron

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Fantastic Support, Bug type

crystal quartz
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Before I wasnt able to find a team to beat flint and aaron

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But I just did it

mellow linden
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Aaron + Nessa + 3rd team member against Lucian should work wonders

steel kelp
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This is also hard mode

mellow linden
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And fill out 2 slots on type medal

crystal quartz
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Oh I have aaron

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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I know, that's why I recommended him

steel kelp
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Just cause you beat it here doesn’t necessarily mean the same teams are gonna work on master

crystal quartz
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And I wont have to worry about type medals on master

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I can just streamroll through with my good units

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so Aaron is a tank?

mellow linden
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Most Supports are tanks. Aaron is particularly notable in terms of bulk thanks to Defend Order + one of his passives allowing him to buff the whole team's Defense and Sp. Def. (but that should wait until after he's buffed the team's Attack and crit as much as possible via his Trainer Move)

mellow linden
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If you can spare the Sync Orbs getting his Trainer Move MP Refresh is a great investment for both short term and long term, if not Nessa should be fine using her Trainer Move once

crystal quartz
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Bruh how many stupid cans does this game want me to have

mellow linden
crystal quartz
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I just used all my item exchange tickets on great aids+ but now it wants even more. I have so many ultra aids but no great ones

rotund lagoon
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How far are you leveling?

mellow linden
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If you're struggling to hit 120 you can try it with Aaron at a bit lower and see how it goes. Worst case scenario you need to come back to finish things up tomorrow

rotund lagoon
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I wouldn’t even think tomorrow is the worst case, they have a week.

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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120 is fine

rotund lagoon
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Stick to 120-125

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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120 is cheap and should be plenty sufficient for CS

rotund lagoon
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I believe we have told you multiple times that level is just fine for content.

mellow linden
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It starts getting a lot more expensive past 120, so it's generally best to focus on 120 for Sync Pairs you're using until you have a major stockpile of resources for going past that level

crystal quartz
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How good is wally

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Can run Maylene as a Fighting Sync Pair since she's a solid Support

crystal quartz
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Hmm screw it Im going with maylene

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Should I evolve her?

steel kelp
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No reason not to

mellow linden
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Yeah, evolution stones are extremely easy to come by

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And the extra stats are always nice

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Anyway, if I’m mathing out the type medal coverage you should at worst need to roll with Maylene + a Poison damage-dealer + a 3rd team member in the Champion fight

crystal quartz
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All these evolution chapters are easy

mellow linden
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They’re intended to be

mellow linden
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Ah, then you should have total freedom to build around your damage-dealer in the Champion fight if you knock out Water + Bug + Fighting in this one

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Since I assume you knocked out Ice fighting Bertha

crystal quartz
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Wally is overpowered

steel kelp
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Wally exists

mellow linden
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Wally is a solid option when fully setup, he just tends to require a little more help from teammates than other options (and he also greatly appreciates more Move Levels)

crystal quartz
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Marnie and toxicroak is so op

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I was just spamming mudslap to do more sync move damage but then shauna died so I started using sludge wave

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And sludge wave did so much damage

mellow linden
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She's actually on the lower end of Poison damage-dealers, too. Just goes to show that you can make pretty much anyone work if you want

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Anyway, congrats on the clear

crystal quartz
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So what now?

mellow linden
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I'd recommend sticking with 850 points per stage (4250 points total) to start with when you do Master Mode since it has little to no difficulty increase over Hard Mode and also gets all the most important rewards

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Can try your hand at Master Mode when you feel you're ready for it. Like I said above, 850 points per stage is a good starting point

old orchid
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In some comps, 850 pts is easier than hard mode because you can focus on team synergy instead of adding fillers to the team

crystal quartz
crystal quartz
rotund lagoon
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No?

mellow linden
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No, they're saying that Master Mode 850 points can potentially be easier than Hard Mode since you're not worrying about type medal

old orchid
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Is my wording not very clear? CyrusSweat

mellow linden
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We have some parameter recommendations in the pins for 850 points

crystal quartz
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Time to put every buff on bertha because bertha is bad

mellow linden
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Do not just apply every point parameter

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You will lose

rotund lagoon
steel kelp
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If you wanna have a hard time sure

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But don’t complain when you can’t beat it

mellow linden
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If you don't understand what all the parameters do I'd recommend starting with 850 points per stage to get used to the mode

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And the number one biggest thing I see in mistakes made from people new to the mode:

The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters are free points as long as you're doing proper teambuilding. The 100-point Physical Damage Reduction 8 and 100-point Special Damage Reduction 8 parameters are not free points, and you need to make sure you pick the one that will not hinder your damage-dealer(s)

crystal quartz
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But now I used my best units

mellow linden
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Thus lies the challenge of CS, you need to make sure you're spreading your strongest options across the 5 fights instead of throwing all your nukes at 1 stage

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If need be you can reset and start over all you want now that Master Mode is unlocked

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Albeit you might need to finish everything on Hard Mode first (I forget if you can reset at any time or only after clearing again)

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Anyway, just make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and try to use damage-dealer who target the type weaknesses and it shouldn't be too bad

old orchid
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In MM you can reset anytime

mellow linden
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Ah, thanks for the refresher on that

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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And if that turns out to present major trouble down the line you'll have learned to not do that

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Then you can always take a break and come back in a few days

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This game is about small bursts of progress each day, don't tunnel-vision on instant gratification

steel kelp
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that’s what the gacha is for

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Then it's entirely possible that this just isn't the game for you, and if that's the case then that's totally fine

crystal quartz
rotund lagoon
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Hence why I always say people should try my weekly strat Peach_Clap

old orchid
lean lion
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Is there a trick to quad queuing consistently? I'm doing Bertha at 2.7k w/ Skyla, SST Red and Winona. I start with Max move > Rain Dance > Skyla TM > Red TM. Then I'm trying to quad queue again after first sync. So I can get 2 syncs + 2 Buddy TB (post 2nd sync) in before Bertha syncs. But I keep failing one or the other and have to reset a lot. Is there a trick I'm missing or is it unreliable nmw?

toxic cobalt
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You just have to be consistent sadly

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No-one gets it 100% of the time

lean lion
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What's the trick? Is there I video I can watch for the timing?

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Or just trial and error until I get kinda used to it?

toxic cobalt
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+quadqueue

frozen depotBOT
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Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

  • If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
  • If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)
YouTube

17 seconds · Clipped by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters) · Original video "Sinnoh CS 2k Aaron Fire w/ Flannery" by Dreamy (Pokemon Masters)

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lean lion
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Thanks so much!

lean lion
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Missing it by this much. Just gotta do a little better after 2nd sync. One b move away..

crystal notch
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Or terrain expiring

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Or someone getting hit and triggering their on hit passive buffs

lean lion
crystal notch
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You can use it as the third move too

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Third in queue I mean

lean lion
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All i need to do now is queue one move after 2nd Red sync to prevent Bertha from queuing Eq. Spam bmove after sync, eat one EQ (which I can with all 3 pairs alive). Then Bmove to finish.

crystal notch
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But yes, sometimes people just miss quad queues

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Even I do 25% of the time

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And have to reset

crystal notch
lean lion
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I know i can get it. I'm the one messing up

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Just don't panic at the end

crystal notch
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You got this!

lean lion
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I mess up because I panic

swift swan
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that's so close, dw you got this

lean lion
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Got it!!!

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Took a break and came back. Failed a couple more times but finally!

crystal notch
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Congrats!!!

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Now you know the thrill

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Of teambuilding

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And chasing that perfect run

lean lion
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Got slightly better at quad queuing

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Made a world of difference

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Thanks so much everyone!!

lean lion
swift swan
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quadqueueing is a gamechanger for presync CS, yeah

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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That is a very unhelpful comment

keen jasper
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I mean, it's true right?

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Most of the units have the same sync animation timing, some have different timings

crystal notch
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You guys memorize them?

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I just feel it out for each team I build for CSMM on the spot

old orchid
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I feel all of them have the same timing, including special cases like NC Rosa

silver dirge
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Really? Rosa's feels different to me CaitlinSleeper

old orchid
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No need to memorize it imo, just tap as fast as possible

old orchid
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The form changing animation doesnt let you choose any moves, so you still have the same window to quad her TM

silver dirge
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HilbertHmm Doesn't the form changing animation add to the total time after the sync aura though?

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That's what I usually use to time mine

manic mica
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I see Cynthia has the parameter status condition deal more damage, which means poison stall steam! What’s a good poison stall team for 3k?

dark osprey
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BP Erika, BP Morty and Janine seem like a good one

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May need to not use moves if burnt later on

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There's many more combos which could definitely work

swift swan
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be careful, Cynthia has HE4 and spams fire blast so you will most likely get burned

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have a flameproof/status immunity tank

manic mica
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Thank you

keen jasper
silver dirge
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Depends on your device

swift swan
fervent otter
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im having trouble with flint and lost my go-to parameters. can any of these psychic units beat him, and is there any on type parameter sets i can use?

old orchid
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which round is this?

fervent otter
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round 4, im fine with resetting for a different one though

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stat drop round

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missing out on ss steven rlly screwed me huhHildaCry

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i can come back tmrw with a poketracker screenshot, just need to update it for the past 3 months

old orchid
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what params are you using? the team should tank Flint's attacks just fine

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and who take the first sync?

toxic cobalt
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THat team should beat flint

fervent otter
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i sync with amphy first bc it dies if i dont

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then lusa

old orchid
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its ontype so Standard Damage Reduction is literally a free param

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dont pick defense params as well, you are aiming to pre sync

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also, always sync with Lusamine first

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the pins have guide on 2.5k/3k pts CSMM, you should go check it out

fervent otter
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i feel so dumb, i thought standard was on the whole time

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🫠

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thank you, i just completed csmm, all i needed was less defence

trail smelt
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I never plan to quad queue lol

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I plan around only being able to triple queue

silver dirge
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Defense 1 is fine sometimes, the rest are a huge no unless you are doing something like a poison stall

lean lion
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Lacking some damage against 2.8k (need it for 12.5k) Cynthia. Should I grid and lucky skill Koga? Someone else? Maybe give Roxie fifth star? Or use a different team and Poison stall instead?

old orchid
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you can toxic stall her just fine

lean lion
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With this team?

old orchid
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Lucy + Janine + Leaf

lean lion
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Do I need to grid or lucky skill Janine or Lucy? Or just leveling to 120 will be enough?

old orchid
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leveling up is enough

lean lion
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Alright I'll try

old orchid
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that team can do 3k pts btw

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remember to grid Leaf with healing stuff and Potion Friend Mend to cure burn

lean lion
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Adrenaline not needed?

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I see Janine can AOE sp atk debuff

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So maybe I can survive a couple syncs?

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Idk

old orchid
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you dont care about Adrenaline in stall teams

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grid Recup so Leaf heals every time she syncs

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Janine has aoe offensive debuffs yes, to soften enemies' attack up

lean lion
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Correct?

old orchid
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use this one instead

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you still need Potion stuffs

lean lion
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Any suggestions for the 300 more points over 2500 poison stall params?

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STR or Atk maybe?

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Or max sync cd?

wide adder
#

Str/atk sounds like it can be scary to bother with when stalling unless your tank is just “that bulky” or something imo, with how many sync cycles that can last

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I haven’t touched stall in a hot minute though

old orchid
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i would choose strength params

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R5 param boosts the effective of badly poison, so choosing Gradual Healing is not a bad idea

lean lion
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Interference immunity + Strike pairs damage x3 + Strength +2

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How about this?

old orchid
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you want trap to stall faster

plush tangle
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gradual healing's always good to take, toxic is exponential anyway you'll just need to survive a few more turns it's not a big deal

old orchid
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so dont pick interference immunity

lean lion
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Okay got it

old orchid
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can pick Ally HP halved on entry as well, because Leaf is a strong healer

lean lion
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trying grad heal + str 1 + strike x3

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If damage becomes to too much ill try half ally hp

sick inlet
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Are you trying to presync?

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Ooo stalling

plush tangle
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presync with max def max hp LucianScheme

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it's possible

lean lion
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This was too easy?

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Wth is this cheese strat lol?

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I got it first attempt

old orchid
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i told you that stall teams can easily do 3k SeleneLul

silver dirge
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Aurochs rejoicing in the background

plush tangle
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stall is easy

lean lion
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Clefable took 15k poison damage off her last Blizzard lmao. Thanks so much Gakon! Got me my first 12.5k!

plush tangle
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stall is even more easier on poison weak stages (usually)

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and cynthia is one of these

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albeit not the easiest

mortal pine
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this CSMM is gonna be hard for me because i don’t have any good on-typers for the remaining stages

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what i have left

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fire and dark

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and poison

old orchid
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for poison, you can do toxic stall

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Fire is okay with Silver and proper supports

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do you have Nessa?

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mortal pine
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yeah i do

old orchid
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Sidney + Nessa + a support is a good team then

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how much pts are you aiming to on each stage?

mortal pine
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i need round 3 done before that

mortal pine
old orchid
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so you mean you are trying to get much pts as possible?

mortal pine
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i guess?

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rewards for maxing out points don’t seem worth the trouble for me rn so i’m just using points as like a personal high score thing

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my PB is 5.5k total

old orchid
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does your Silver have Dauntless lucky skill?

north crown
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what's up?

north crown
# mortal pine fire and dark

Ah... yeah Gakon's suggestions are already optimal. You should be able to get at least 1.5k relatively easily, provided the key units are gridded.

astral jolt
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Help me with CS please, tell me teams for all the elite 4 I'm missing dark and ground pieces

Here are my units

Support

silver dirge
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Have you tried making sample teams for each stage first? It's better if you get the hang of teambuilding yourself, and we can guide you along the way with feedback. Do the following as a general guide:

  • Choose a damage dealer for each stage
  • Carefully inspect the damage dealer's kit (passives, grid (where relevant), moves) and find what buffs they need, or what multipliers they'd like help setting up
  • Choose support(s) that can help with the above
  • If you have a free slot left over, you can opt for a utility pair like defensive debuffs, weather/terrain/zone, or simply just a filler type for your medal that you haven't completed yet

Post the teams here and we'll advise on any changes you should make

astral jolt
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Internet is not working proper

toxic cobalt
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If you don't want to use the tracker, also always easier to screenshot on a screen without the top team taking up space

astral jolt
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Okay lemme just make teams then, I'll ask if they don't work

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I'm just having a hard time getting dark and ground

versed mural
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Also look at the params below to see what params is used for each round and decide which E4 member you can use it against

astral jolt
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Alright

dark osprey
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Do filter out for ground

toxic cobalt
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What I get for not eating lunch today

silver dirge
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I thought you saw a hidden Fall Roxanne in there somewhere so I didn't point it out SeleneLul

lean lion
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Recommendations for next week's CSMM's Ghost weak wise entry Lucian and Fighting weak Cynthia?

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And ground weak Aaron

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I might have to offtype Bertha with SST Red. Cause it's a pain to deal with Earthquakes as Solgaleo

mellow linden
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Bea would be a good pick for Fighting weak stages

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Might have to off-type or Poison stall Lucian

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Courtney can work for Aaron (just make sure to have a way of negating Acute Senses, be it Gradual Healing parameter or an interference effect/Rebuff)

formal vigil
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Courney with clay might work for aaron

lean lion
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So clay + Courtney + supp who can cause any interference

mellow linden
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I dunno if Clay would be that big of a boost to the team, but if solo damage-dealer Courtney ends up not working then you can potentially try adding Clay or Hapu to supplement damage

mellow linden
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Because that negates Acute Senses

lean lion
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Okay I'll try this

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Do I grid both Courtney and Clay?

formal vigil
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Only clay

mellow linden
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No point gridding your Courtney since she’s 1/5

lean lion
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So she's there for Ground zone and some extra damage?

formal vigil
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Yes

lean lion
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Okay got it

formal vigil
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Though you probably have to promote clay for it too work Though

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At least to 4 star

lean lion
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I'll run NC Rosa with Bea for the rebuff, should I bring another damage dealer or another supp to not waster Bea's turns maxing atk?

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Not a problem I have the power ups

mellow linden
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If you can bring an Attack buffer to save Bea some time on self-buffs that would be good

lean lion
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Maylene?

formal vigil
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Yeah she works

mellow linden
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She’s an option, as would Hilbert, Sonia, Aaron, or Hop

formal vigil
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Even debuffs defence for bea and accuracy buffs

lean lion
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I might need Aaron and Hop for other teams. Wait I'll make my teams and share them.

lean lion
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What do you think?

formal vigil
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Maybe run another electric damage dealer I staed of skyla

mellow linden
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SS Blue and Skyla on the same team is redundant, you’d be better off rolling with a 2nd Electric damage-dealer + appropriate Support (so one that handles that 2nd damage-dealer’s needs) on a team for SST Red.

Otherwise it looks fine

lean lion
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Both damage dealers would be weak to almost all of Bertha's attacks

mellow linden
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That’s not necessarily a problem

lean lion
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I think Red can do enough by himself to pre-sync, just needs to be kept alive

formal vigil
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Someone with flinch might be good too or sleep

lean lion
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But wait ill see what else I can do

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Sophocles Togedemaru?

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Maxes his own atk, will get +2 crit from Blue and can flinch

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I also have 1/5 Volkner but his flinch chance is lower

mellow linden
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Neither of those pairs are really damage-dealers

lean lion
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Only other option is Hau Raichu but sides have wise entry. Go with him anyway?

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I guess Red will take care of sides anyway

mellow linden
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If those are all your options I guess it doesn’t matter all that much

versed meteor
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Ok i think support ex role actually helps cserena on the dark type side of things more than i thought

lunar meadow
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I mean, support EX role is always nice.
It's just not as nice as some others might be

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I like it for form changing units, like zygarde

full mesa
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CSerena didn't need supp ex imo. Sprint or striker would have been a better choice.

rotund lagoon
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She would definitely benefit more from the other two.
Or hell, do a Field whose field effect changes between the sync types

old orchid
rich needle
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Calem died for it

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Also I forgot to use cerena instead of marnie oops

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Wise entry moment

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Also also wow Cynthia just fcking DIES to poison

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It’s kinda insane

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Another also

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I’ve made an earthshatteringly sad discovery that should really be obvious but I’ve been using Emma usually

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Jessie is completely fucking useless she has no dps and James is a better nuker

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Oh well

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Ncblue can carry them it’s fine

sick inlet
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NCBlue carries the whole game

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It feels like the 1st anniversary repeat

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SSBlue carried everything back then

rich needle
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its not working

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hm

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well ill figure it out

toxic cobalt
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NCBlue…fail?!? BarryPogChamp

rich needle
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Well legit I need to probably take off all the strength

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So it’s just regular poison stall

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But I’m lazy

cobalt nacelle
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Are you... Trying to poison stall with pre-sync params?

rich needle
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No

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Im post sync only

cobalt nacelle
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That's only slightly better

rich needle
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Mmm

rose ermine
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What params do I use for this team

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I'm trying both reductions off cuz I want lance's nuke

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But I'm only able to get 2.9k params

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Dunno what to slot in for 3k without crippling the team

mellow linden
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What are your current parameters?

rose ermine
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Standard 3k post sync

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Pre sync*

old orchid
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No weather changer really hurts

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5/5 Lance can self buff without a support

rose ermine
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The problem isn't buffing

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I can't get 3k pts without crippling team

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The only okayish param I can apply is physical reduc

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But that cuts off lance's nuke which i want

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Can't go for defence either as lance does barely any damage with defence up

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Brendan is there for SPD debuff btw

lean lion
old orchid
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Replace Hop with someone like Hilbert or Sonia

lean lion
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Don't have either

old orchid
old orchid
lean lion
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Okay

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Should I just swap hop and Leaf or put someone else with Serena to max sp atk?

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Hop with Red, Leaf with Clay/Courtney, SS Blue with Serena

How about this?

old orchid
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That works. Be sure to grid Leaf with TM MPR, Critical Squad and Berserker Bunch

lean lion
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Alright got it

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Thanks so much!

old orchid
rose ermine
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Does Bertha have something that completely reduces damage during weather

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Lance doing 1k hyperbeam is very wrong

silver dirge
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There's a PoMatools link in the pins, you can check her passives there

dense birch
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Man next week’s CS is looking pretty rough for me lol

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No good attackers for lucian and aaron, and back to dodging EQ for bertha

old orchid
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you can brute force Lucian if you happen to have 3/5 Fantina, or just stall him

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for Aaron, how is your Ground roster?

rose ermine
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What should I take for the last 200?(offtype presync)

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The team

old orchid
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do you need debuffs?

rose ermine
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Kinda?

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So far I've come closest with nate 1st and second sync

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I've come pretty close

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Usually Bertha is 1 hit off or something like this(this is current params+max hp 4)

dense birch
old orchid
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i would use Lucas instead of Nate, because Lucas has on demand zone and benefits from SMUN

dense birch
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Don’t know if it will work

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For fighting my strongest unit is korrina lol

formal vigil
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What move level is Courtney?

dense birch
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1

old orchid
formal vigil
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Also use solgaleo instead of korrina for fighting

dense birch
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I have elesa/zebstrika, no bp sophocles but i can trade for him

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Kgrimsley enough for bertha? Was thinking to do solgaleo sync nuke bertha + sides

old orchid
formal vigil
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What move level is krimsley?

dense birch
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2

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Hop is not ex’ed

old orchid
rose ermine
dense birch
lusty wagon
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Extreme james copium why you use lance? You dont have any units for flinch sleep? Will be more easy

old orchid
old orchid
rose ermine
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2.i used up sscyrus and lyra

formal vigil
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Could use elio or serenafor sleep

lusty wagon
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Lance would work if you skipp special and physical damage since his main move is hyper beam

formal vigil
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His nuke is physical

old orchid
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well they want to use both dps and nuke

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so its okay

rose ermine
lusty wagon
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He sync whit nate for zone

rose ermine
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changed to lucas on gakon's advice

old orchid
rose ermine
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ah

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I think I need master healer

dense birch
old orchid
old orchid
dense birch
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But yeah i am not sure how the ground team will do, since both bertha and courtney are 1/5

old orchid
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and pray for ideal move rotation from Bertha