Champion Stadium

[crystal notch]

unless sp def and atk down multiplier

in Mewtwo?

[swift swan]

Giovanni still has his brainteaser/smarty pants node even if he's not powerboosted

[crystal notch]

hmmm does that out boost psychic terrain?

but stored power is actually legit dps with nc rosa

[lean lion]

This is what Im wondering

Does psychic terrain out damage Lucian's debuffs

[swift swan]

not sure of the actual calcs, but I think so

[crystal notch]

then ig just use lucian

[lean lion]

So Lucian would be better?

[swift swan]

like I said, Bianca helps with extra DPS considering your Giovanni's probably not EX'd

try both, see which one's more comfortable

[lean lion]

Right I was thinking about taking out sides with one and dpsing mid down with other

[crystal notch]

my consideration is that since bianca can help dps here, we can save lucian for some other rounds

but with Wise Entry littered everywhere

maybe that's a dumb idea

[lean lion]

Next week only one fight has wise entry iirc

[swift swan]

not really, there's only 1 wise entry x2 next week

[lean lion]

The dark one

[crystal notch]

wait this is for next week planning?

then nvm

[lean lion]

Yeah right Lucian

[crystal notch]

oh right this week has no psychic weak

HSE fried my brain I'm sorry

[lean lion]

Haha it's okay. I'll just minimal grid Lucian just in case I have to use him

Otherwise Bianca it is

[crystal notch]

this week has like Wise Entry on like two people

bertha has it on her sides iirc

[crystal notch]

he doesn't have a lot on 1/5

can save your orbs

[dense birch]

Lucian doesn’t have anything that lets him spread spdef down to sides right?

Is there any general/f2p unit that does? Similar to colress and screech spread

[eternal matrix]

none that I can think of

[swift swan]

Lucian's is AOE

[eternal matrix]

only other AoE spdef debuffer in the gen pool is lenora, but that's leer already being AoE

[swift swan]

it's his passive

gosh tixx i couldn't recognize you with this color

[dense birch]

oh i see, using growl

leer is def down

[eternal matrix]

her passive triggers a spdef drop

[dense birch]

oh man. for some reason i never ever saw it being triggered. maybe i'm blind

[keen jasper]

Maybe it's because you probably have No Stat Drop parameter active

[dense birch]

no, when i use lenora i normally have it active

but i've always paired her with physical damage dealers instead

[crystal notch]

yeah, - atk sp def AOE is a god send for many sync nuke nodes

does lucian also lower speed

[keen jasper]

No

[crystal notch]

I don't quite remember

[dense birch]

yep yep. i am now looking through both lenora and lucian's grids. i don't suppose there is a way they can drop stats by 2 ranks instead of 1 right?

i like -2 aoe def/spdef a lot. haha

[keen jasper]

That'd require having Double Drop in their grid expansions

[dense birch]

do general gacha units have grid expansions?

[keen jasper]

Which is definitely not happening

[keen jasper]

Yes

Like Kris, Karen, Kukui, etc.
(Also KKK)

[swift swan]

older units are starting to get them

[dense birch]

ok so unlikely lucian and lenora will get them soon then. with lenora being more unlikely than lucian

[keen jasper]

No, they're just too recent

[crystal notch]

it'd be copium for lucian to get one so soon

there's countless of dead rotting first year pairs

waiting for their grid expansion

[swift swan]

he's already too good. dena made a mistake making this man too broken

[dense birch]

haha ok. i just pulled him with sinnoh tickets from the cyrus event, so i was planning to see if i was able to make him do -2 aoe for CSMM purposes

[eternal matrix]

ive gone back to my roots 😌

[dense birch]

aw man lucian has wise entry next week. wanted to do something dumb like maybe lucian + karen and attempt to drop atk and spatk to -6 or something

[swift swan]

She can most likely still handle it

x2 entry simply means your damage dealer will be hitting as if they're offtyping

but without the annoying bulk you have to put when offtyping a CSMM stage and your damage dealer doesn't lose out on any supereffective multipliers they might have

[dense birch]

oh. got it

[tulip python]

Man I need some standard parameter tips or outlines cause using the original 2500 table and stacking strength or health isn’t cutting it for Bertha.

Gotten pretty close with Rose, but Rhyperior is Tanky. Best run was with Duraldon and Jirachi, but they’re very not Tanky

[swift swan]

adding some strength to the hyperoffensive 2.5k params shouldn't hurt if your steel types are stacked like that

[silver dirge]

Have you read the guide in the pins? You could incorporate some of the tips there depending on your team

3k is too team dependent to have a standard set for

[swift swan]

I'd try giving bertha some max sync countdown and see if Rose's max move + some DPS can kill Bertha after support EX

[old orchid]

If you picked both sync CD params, Bertha will sync after 2 actions so be careful

[silver dirge]

Reduce her bulk as much as possible, choose all the hyper offensive nodes & some sync CD. Bring someone to enable Rose's Max Move as much as possible (defense debuffs, SEUN), it should one-shot or get close enough.

[swift swan]

half ally HP my best friend

[silver dirge]

🤝 A staple

[tulip python]

I’ll give those a shot

I did get extremely close with Articuno and Glaceon

But that last sliver of health

Before the 2nd sync did me in

Also how the heck do I check pins in this new discord

Aha found it

[versed meteor]

Most accessible units with mini potion all are mostly physical supports or registeel(one dimension) but yeh i run it sometimes too

Hp 4 is a scary thing especially against sinnoh

[tulip python]

I swear these weren’t as “difficult” before this 3k thing, but then again it might be cause Sinnoh

[swift swan]

I don't even use healing items for ally HP down sometimes

just reset if there are AOEs

easier with EX strikers so you don't have to worry about sides

[swift swan]

3k is already pushing the limits of what's comfortable for veteran players, and the difficulty jump is a lot more noticeable with Sinnoh (and inevitably Hoenn and Kalos)

don't worry too much about it, it is hard

[left storm]

Rosa is perfect for Bianca

Random stat ups + crit buff

[silver dirge]

I regularly pick up Half Ally HP & Strike/Tech Damage x3 with said roles on my team, it's not too hard to avoid or deny AoEs

[swift swan]

same

if my strikers are gonna get two-shotted anyway they might as well get one-shot

anything to remove that bulk from this already bulky 29k HP stage

[tulip python]

Well reducing bulk was certainly useful, may try this with the off type squad that did well before

Too bad Rhyperior is a beast of a tank and only gets about half health before that sync murders lol

Cynthia is a good tank but I think I need to re-eval

[silver dirge]

you're not picking up any defense params, right?

[tulip python]

Nope

Removed them all

[silver dirge]

Have you picked up All Attack & Power on Hit nodes?

[tulip python]

Yep.

Closest I got

Maybe I need to get rose to 3/5

Will evaluate in the day

[dark osprey]

Which round is this?

[swift swan]

I don't think both Hop and SSA Cynthia are necessary there

Rose is self sufficient right? replace one of them with someone to help boost Rose's damage like with SEUP or defense debuffs

[rain turret]

for bertha I used hop, rose and dojo gloria(she reduces def with surging strikes and has steel max move)

[rain turret]

15k done, cynthia was ez

posted my teams on stage-clears

[undone ether]

Shes easy as long as youve changed the weather.

[rain turret]

didnt need to

zerena took care of it just fine

grass team really does wonders on sun

[tulip python]

Is he self sufficient? He feels very gauge hungry

[swift swan]

He needs gauge support ofc, but i meant he buffs his own offenses by himself

A one click setup right?

So both Hop and SSAC is redundant and you're better off focusing on increasing Rose's damage output

[old orchid]

Do you happen to have 3/5 Colress (he doesnt use gauge with freebie tile gridded, probably doable at lower move level but gauge sucks)? Him, Hop and Rose should be enough

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah. 1/5 Colress even with the mga is kinda difficult to manage with gauge

[old orchid]

Let me introduce this fun shit against Bertha with Colress Pal Serena can be replaced with any paralysis inflictor

https://youtu.be/Hj8izmTuz3Q

[plush tangle]

do not replace the girl

[old orchid]

[plush tangle]

damn using LG strats to beat CS

[old orchid]

@silver dirge how ironic

Oof wrong ping

[plush tangle]

editing doesn't ping them

you have to ping again

[old orchid]

Ik, but he will read this channel eventually

[silver dirge]

This is funny, I've never actually seen a gauge stall like that

[silver dirge]

The one time they're acceptable

[dark osprey]

That was crazy. Think Pal Serena also helps because of the speed lowering

[tulip python]

I have a 5/5 colress

[plush tangle]

serena's the one who does it the fastest yeah

[silver dirge]

Queen

[undone ether]

still my go to Fairy Weak stages that isn't running Sentry Entry x2

[silver dirge]

You mean isn't running Wise Entry x2?

[plush tangle]

even on wise entry she gets the job done

[tulip python]

Woot, one shot Bertha?

[dark osprey]

I guess all steel damage dealers can deal with Bertha if done right. Thorton though

[silver dirge]

Yea, it's doable with KGrimsley too. Just a matter of low bulk as possible & you can delay sync to set it up fully

[undone ether]

o right.

[dark osprey]

The Coloress one did use the second round parameter to it's advantage.

Could probably clear without that as well but the other drops also helped

K Grimsley if EXed quite comfortably one shots due to the higher stats and super effective next

[tulip python]

Maybe I’ll try hop, colress, and rose to clear

I mean the hyper offensive already dropped the tankiness

So it’s plausible that with the right timing

[dark osprey]

Just need a slight bit of RNG. Worst case, Hop survives the sync and gets those boosted bashes in to finish

[old orchid]

In that team comp you should aim to pre sync

Grid Colress with status freebie tile for no gauge usage, then sync with Hop followed by Rose's max move

Can queue Iron Head immediately in case max move doesn't KO

[vast dome]

Proton is quite good

At ungridded 1/5

[rotund lagoon]

Okay so @mystic anchor Here’s some questions I have:

1. Can you send your roster?
2. You’re doing Flint, what round are you on?
3. Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[mystic anchor]

I can send my roster in one min, im on round four, master mode

I got real close with irida, nc red, and Skyla & swanna (all 3/5)

[rotund lagoon]

Okay so a few things to know:

1. Change the weather
2. Flint has Wise Entry so you need physical damage dealers.

Also send your parameters and let me know how many points.

[mystic anchor]

These are my exed strikers

[rotund lagoon]

I need your entire roster. Strikes are not the only damage dealers either.

[mystic anchor]

Sorry I was splitting them into role categories

Techs

Supports

Sprint and field

(I crossed out supports I already used)

These are the parameters I was using

(Befire I found out about the wise entry anyways)

It’s at exactly 3k points

I also have 1 strike candy if necessary

[mellow linden]

The 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and Special Damage Reduction parameters only set Reflect and Light Screen, which are ignored by critical hits

Those 2 50-point parameters are a free 100 points with proper teambuilding since your damage-dealer should have maxed crit rate anyway

You’re stacking far too many bulk-increasing parameters, if you’re doing an offensive clear you should avoid as many Defense and Sp. Def. parameters as possible and pretty much always avoid Max HP ^8 if doing an offensive clear

[mystic anchor]

What do you mean by “offensive clear”?

[mellow linden]

As in a standard team with 1 or more damage-dealers

[mystic anchor]

Gotcha

[mellow linden]

On a team with Irida + NC Red you can absolutely afford to stack more parameters that increase the opponents’ damage since those 2 are quite likely able to shred the opponents before that increased damage becomes a problem

Though since you have Olivia + SS Diantha both EXd I don’t think you need to off-type at all

Bertha + Olivia + SS Diantha can probably handle it no problem

[mystic anchor]

My ss diantha is only 1/5 tho

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t need to be more than that

At most she’s only doing 1st Sync because Olivia won’t be fully set up yet

And 1/5 is fine for setting Rock Zone and B Diamond Storm

Just make sure to grid Olivia for Inertia, Sand Blaster, Stone Edge Amped Up, and her Sync base power tiles

[mystic anchor]

Gotcha

I’ll try that

Thank you

[grim lotus]

any suggestions for round 4 lucian? i've used : garchomp, hippowdon, swanna, kyogre, both greninjas, ss leaf, leaf and ariados

[undone ether]

I see a Blue/Pidgeot at 5/5 😮

[rotund lagoon]

Build a team around regular Blue. Remember he needs first sync. Also if you can grid him, do it.

[rich needle]

if blue doesnt work out you can try sslana ssteven and ncrosa

[nocturne pawn]

i remember when i struggled against 2.5k bug lucian and then i just shat on him with sst and ss hau

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message a reference if you decide to use Blue

[tulip python]

Arceus help us all if there is a bug Neo Champion Stadium

[undone ether]

Full Bug Weak?

[tulip python]

Yeah

[undone ether]

its likely going to be NC Calem's i guess .-.

[swift swan]

won't be until a very long time, I'm sure

[tulip python]

Only bug offensive pairs I can think of are SC Ingo and Emmet, Lusamine, Christmas Viola, SS Hilbert

[swift swan]

bugsy and noland erasure

[undone ether]

its gonna be off-type season o/

[tulip python]

Mega Pinsir RIP

[undone ether]

yo boy guzma too

[tulip python]

Oh yeah I forgot about him

Ironically Buzzwole is a fighting type

[silver dirge]

VNoland erasure

[keen jasper]

Imagine having Voland

[tulip python]

Dang nabit, this colress combo is getting me very close

Using the offensive parameters gets me killed too quick, so I used the ones this person used in the winners

And that’s getting me close

Rng is a pain tho with the crit on the Earthquake

[dark osprey]

Could try the other strats as well if needed and use the round parameters to your benefit. If it's the 3rd round, could use the flinch abuse

2nd round should be more damage due to Colress

First round need to take care of quad queue issues

[tulip python]

4th round RIP

[dark osprey]

On the bright side, no quad queue issues. So Max move & iron head right after support EX sync will be regular quad queue

[versed meteor]

Rose is useful for 3/5 battles this cs, seems like a trap

[trail smelt]

That’s the thing with multi type attackers haha

It can plug a hole but not every hole at the same time

[dark osprey]

For steel you've always got Solgaleo Hop. Then depending on which rock and ground DDs you have at 3/5+ can use Rose for the other

[versed meteor]

I might have to gamble ssr Cynthia+ solgaleo on steel again cuz ss Diantha is a total tool on rock weak without perm field

Don't know how my alt only has 1/5 olivia

[dark osprey]

Is ssrc for brainteaser? Seems like gauge will be a pain

[versed meteor]

Sorry i mean ssa Cynthia

[dark osprey]

Ah ok. Hop does some good damage post sync as well though

And can cheese with sleep/flinch if needed as well

[versed meteor]

Still don't know why i am still so bad at using ss Diantha

At least i didn't gamble for her on my main

[dark osprey]

Probably need better rock zone abusers

Roark and Kukui upgraded are kinda ok

Thing is that the rock stages may need weather

[vast dome]

Bertha Round 4

Think it needs work

[silver dirge]

Lucian & Jasmine do nothing to support Steven outside of crit buffs, what's the thought process there?

[vast dome]

I dunno really

I wanted to lower Attack witb Lucian

Lower Defence with Colress but he's weak to ground

[silver dirge]

You need to buff your damage dealer first, are you familiar with teambuilding?

[vast dome]

Yes

Hop or SS Jasmine?

[silver dirge]

Who do you think would be better?

[vast dome]

I think Hop

Raises Defence and Attack

[silver dirge]

Indeed

[vast dome]

And potions

[silver dirge]

Bring Colress in place of Lucian and see if you can avoid Earthquakes

[vast dome]

Steven's at 2/5

[silver dirge]

That's fine, he already has haymaker, 2/5 gives him Tough Sync too

[rotund lagoon]

One of the few pairs to have a multiplier at 1/5

[vast dome]

OK

it works

And I cleares the thhing

[tulip python]

This hurt me

[lusty wagon]

Just change suport wat can put up def 2 up. Not special support you need physical. If you get +4 or 6 should be fine.

[old orchid]

or get luckier with freeze duration next time

[lusty wagon]

Or this too 🙂

[silver dirge]

Dana doesn't achieve much off-type

[old orchid]

~~b-but Ice Teamwork ~~

[silver dirge]

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/irida-legends-arceus-gif-26300611

[cinder summit]

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Sync Pairs with Passive:

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[silver dirge]

It caps at 20

[undone ether]

god i hate bertha 😭

[silver dirge]

Just bring a Sinnoh or Kanto support, that'll be more effective

[undone ether]

next next week is another Steel Weak bertha sigh

[old orchid]

nope 💔

[silver dirge]

[tulip python]

Yeahhhhh this is the trick

[tulip python]

YES

RNGesus suck it

Did it with hop squad

That took 1.5 hours 😂

But max champ stadium ftw again!

[tulip python]

Oh god plz no 😭

[craggy glade]

Am I tripping or is every elite 4 this week super tanky for no reason

[silver dirge]

3 out of 4 of the Elite 4 have the highest base HP of any CS stage

[craggy glade]

My parameters are the same yet they're not taking nearly as much damage

[silver dirge]

Are you making sure to tackle their gimmicks?

[craggy glade]

What gimmicks?

[silver dirge]

Disable Flint's sun, deny one of Bertha's move if you want to get 2 syncs in, have some sort of weather on Aaron

And Cynthia has Sandscreen disabling sand there is pretty important

[craggy glade]

I need to off type 2 of these rounds so I'm trying to get them out of the way

But I can't even get past round 1

I guess if Cynthia has sand I'll bring my sun team for her

But who else can I even kill with anni Lillie

Who has the lowest hp this week?

[silver dirge]

Cynthia lowest, Flint 2nd lowest

[craggy glade]

But I need to disable sun to do damage to Flint?

[silver dirge]

Nah, mostly if you want to survive

He has Charging Sun 5, and the base 1.5x from Sun

Some tanks can handle it, most can't

[craggy glade]

New params need to come sooner

Losing out 300pts for off typing is so painful

[dark osprey]

We do need new parameters. But they may just not because they do seem to be against offtyping so there's more reasons for the player base to pull

[wicked pebble]

For god's sake, why is Flint so stupidly broken?

Can't keep Sandstorm up forever and I have to flat out start iwth it or else I die to his obscene offense.

And he sets up sun on his own too before sync and I can't beat out sync because his team ALWAYS forces a turn in.

[left storm]

You just reuse sand before it ends to not fuck up your quad queue

Changing parameters might help

[wicked pebble]

...I ALREADY DO THAT.

I HAVE TWO USES ONLY.

[left storm]

If you don't kill with two uses (and you can always fish mpr) there's something wrong with your parameters

[wicked pebble]

It's standard parameters. And Ingo's 1/5, he doesn't have freaking MPR for Sandstorm at 1/5!

[left storm]

Then you can fish for turn 1 buffs

[craggy glade]

Bah

I was so close to off typing Lucian

[wicked pebble]

I'm using frekaing Olivia!

[left storm]

And sand on last action of T2

[wicked pebble]

...HE NUKES MY FREAKING TANK IF I DON'T PUT SAND UP.

[left storm]

This way it lasts more

🙂

Calm down dude

[formal vigil]

Who is the third member?

[dark osprey]

I guess you can bring in a flincher and flinch on first turn if that's necessary

[wicked pebble]

Sonia.

[left storm]

Again, fishing for buffs T1 is a thing

[formal vigil]

Sonia kinda redundant there

[dark osprey]

Why Sonia though? And Sonia can definitely take the first hit

[formal vigil]

Ingo buffs attack crit already

Speed too

[wicked pebble]

This is Flare Blitz on turn 1.

With +2 Defense.

[left storm]

Ok listen.

Fishing for buffs

Means they don't attack.

Ok?

[wicked pebble]

I have seen him only useattacking moves.

[formal vigil]

Could replace sonia woth kukui

[dark osprey]

You can heal with Sonia right?

[formal vigil]

Fish for flinch

[left storm]

Well resetting on T1 for buffs is definitely an option

[wicked pebble]

The standard stuff has reduced healing parameters.

[left storm]

As I've done it

Also that damage with sun is nothing

Lol

[wicked pebble]

https://i.imgur.com/4bS4qLx.png I'm using the 2500 stuff from this.

[left storm]

You probably pumped waaaaay too much on their bulk

[wicked pebble]

And are you kidding, that basically rinces before I get my first sync move off.

[left storm]

That's why you're running out of sand

[wicked pebble]

Okay, what part of any of that is 'put too much on their bulk? I pointed out what I'm using.

[old orchid]

Do you have Bertha? I would replace Ingo with her

[wicked pebble]

Already used her.

[old orchid]

How about Acerola for flinch? R3 param makes her flinch guaranteed

Plus Sandstorm MPR3

[wicked pebble]

Are we seriously talking about using Acerola here?

[dark osprey]

As James mentioned, not sure why using Sonia over Kukui or even another flinch mon. But with Sonia you have 2 potion users and can take half HP as one parameter for 200 pts and take off the ally healing for 100 pts

[left storm]

Why wouldn't we be

She's fine

[wicked pebble]

She's only 2/5, I think.

[old orchid]

Is there something wrong with her?

That doesnt matter

[left storm]

2/5 is more than enough

[old orchid]

She just needs 1/5

[left storm]

3/5 is useless

[wicked pebble]

Okay, that worked.

Sorry, just was left frustrated and it felt like a bit of the advice was... retreading what I was doing already.

[left storm]

I mean we can't know

What you're doing

From just a couple screenshot

The important part is that it worked

[grave wyvern]

The people here are doing their best to help you - please treat them with a bit more kindness in the future.

[trail cypress]

is it possible to 3k berta with these?

I'm trying hop, gloria, grimsley

but she kills me

[silver dirge]

Should be yes, can you send your parameters?

[dark osprey]

Also, what's your sequence on using kimono Grimsley? Hope he's gridded for nuke

[old orchid]

SS Morty + Solgaleo + Kimono Krimsley should be an easy 3k pre sync

Tho you must perform turn denial and hope for least EQ usage as possible

[trail cypress]

this is his grid

as for the sequence, i spam screech on him 3 turns

then sync

hop use tm, gloria use iron head

[dark osprey]

Can use his TM instead of the third screech

He gets SEUN on the sync then

[trail cypress]

i tried solgaleo, and his damage was very bad.

[old orchid]

Krimsley will handle nuking, dont worry

[trail cypress]

the params is good?

[trail cypress]

how does the action order go for this comp. morty sync one then mc sync 2?

[dark osprey]

Could take the No WTZ parameter and reduce the HP parameter

[trail cypress]

gotcha

[silver dirge]

SS Morty can also take hits like a champ, consider taking Atk Up 5 and dropping some strength

[old orchid]

I would nuke with Krimsley both times, the first time is for denying the left

Also fish for as many flinch as possible

[dark osprey]

If using SS Morty, would just need to consider Glojo crit maxing because SS Morty would be quite slow at that else need to grid Glojo for that

Also SS Morty would probably be taking the WTZ parameter which seems not necessary

[trail cypress]

alright, I'll give it another spin

[trail cypress]

thank you friends, grimsley did get 1shot right after metal burst. But gloria clutched up with some flinches.

[peak stirrup]

Tbh I’ve given up on CS this week

[full anvil]

bertha was so hard i can't do 3k

[north crown]

@full anvil Any particular reason as to why you think that may be? Perhaps with my/our help, you can overcome this. Could you show me your roster?

[silver dirge]

Maybe send your current team & parameters first, see if there's possible adjustments there

[lean lion]

Suggestions on who to level up for next weeks CSMM Dark and Poison stages? Will Cerena work for Dark?

[sharp willow]

NC Serena can 100% work for dark, for Poison, Roxie is a solid option, as is Koga

[lean lion]

Should I get Roxie to 5-stars?

[north crown]

Yeah. As long as you can grid those respective DPS units, you should be fine.

It would certainly help, though it’s not necessary.

[sharp willow]

wouldnt worry too much about it, its nice if you can but shouldnt be too necessary

[north crown]

Yeah, seems like it’s a general consensus.

[lean lion]

Alright thanks guys

[sharp willow]

will say, Koga would need candies if you intend to use him though

[north crown]

Nvm, don’t ping me. I will be busy for the rest of the day.

[craggy glade]

Ok I'm genuinely stumped for the first time

I need to beat one of the E4 with this team. Which one of them am I most likely to succeed?

[mellow linden]

Is there a specific reason you have to do so?

[craggy glade]

#1012474047671586887

[mellow linden]

May want to consider a different Support since you’re forced to off-type, but I guess Aaron or Lucian would have the best chances since the other stages this week have Wise Entry (Flint has WEx2 on all opponents, Bertha has WEx3 on the sides)

[left storm]

Holy shit that 5/5 Lillie lol

[craggy glade]

Oh my god is that why I was only doing 800 to Flint with moongeist beam

[left storm]

I think cred is very bad for offtype

Aaron requires wheater

Lucian might be a good option

[mellow linden]

Aaron requires something to disable Acute Senses (which granted is easily done in Master Mode), you may be able to get away with no weather depending on the team

[craggy glade]

Hm ok

Lillie can get past acute sense with moongeist beam but she still doesn't do enough damage to kill pre sync

I can tank a sync if I replace Red with SSACynthia but everything Aaron does post sync one shots my team

[full anvil]

Nah I was just being salty

[craggy glade]

Aight I gave SSA Cynthia the ex role

Let's see if it helps

[craggy glade]

Ok Aaron looks beatable now

I think I just need incredibly good rng one time and I can win

[craggy glade]

Massive breakthrough

Now I can on type the rest until Cynthia

[sonic blaze]

is it me or were folks beefy in this week’s csmm?

[rich needle]

i think so as well

[sonic blaze]

yeah, was surprised about how beefy ground and steel felt for my roster, especially steel, thought rose was just gonna decimate but wasnt that easy.

[sharp willow]

there are 3 stages this week that are all tied for the highest base HP of a CS stage so like

Lucian, Bertha and Aaron are all gonna feel tankier than average

[craggy glade]

Bruh of course Flint has flare blitz to thaw out of freeze

[craggy glade]

I did it

God

Everytime I do a Sinnoh CS run I genuinely think it needs to be nerfed

[lean lion]

Better ice type damage dealer between Ghetsis and 2/5 Hala? Asking for next weeks CSMM, no sentry or wise entry

[old orchid]

is Ghetsis power boosted and EX?

[lean lion]

No

[old orchid]

then Hala might be better

[lean lion]

He gets haymaker at 2/5

[old orchid]

yup

[lean lion]

Aight will grid

Him for Haymaker and gauge refresh

[tulip python]

Hala for sure has carried me for Ice on many an occasion

Especially for Physical weak

[tulip python]

I hope next week will be less of a wall don’t want to do a 1.5 hours battle against Bertha again

[old orchid]

Except Bertha and Cynthia, next week stages are very bulky

[wide adder]

do any of this weeks params benefit 🪽 fight much?

plan to use Gloralt 1/5 + SSEthan 3/5 EX + <Special Buffer Here>

[tulip python]

😭

What’s the type weakness next week

[wide adder]

also which stage is the most physical opponent this week

[tulip python]

Bertha

[wide adder]

i know its a little late but im doing my cs clear rn

[tulip python]

But she’s also bulk

[undone ether]

let me check

[wide adder]

problem is my usual Steel teams dont have an EX Supp Sync, out of ones that can survive

cause Hop is just gonna be murked

[tulip python]

Okay, I think i can nuke those stages:

Flint: Deoxys, Musharna, and any decent support

[undone ether]

Aaron : All of them are physical moves spammers.
Bertha : Same as above.
Flint : Special Move Spammer with 1 Fire Punch. The sides is mostly special, and also do Mind Games 9.

[tulip python]

Do you not have EX Hop? He does oddly well for this stage

[undone ether]

Lucian spams Physical Moves. with 1 bubblebeam

The sides spam special moves

[wide adder]

i do, but my past experience with sinnoh ontyping has been bad due to ground weak steel mons

[undone ether]

And Cynthia is Special Spammer.

[undone ether]

Ball Guy Clear

[tulip python]

Ah. Yeah it’s tough. RNG is a bit of a factor too

But the best combo I saw and did was

Hop, that villain from BW2, and Rose

You really have to be on point with quad que

And then pray to RNGesus that Bertha doesn’t earthquake Rose and the gear bro

[wide adder]

gdi even the new mawile bp unit is ground weak

i dont own Rose btw

[tulip python]

Oh, do you have the doggo

You do

Have the doggo

[undone ether]

wat dogo? o_o

[wide adder]

i assume Mirror Shot bp too low to even consider

for lussamine

[silver dirge]

For steel weak Bertha?

[tulip python]

The wolf with the sword

[wide adder]

gloria zacian i have, but shes 1/5

[tulip python]

Ah right, someone here mentioned she needs to be like maxed to be decent

[wide adder]

yeah she gets rebuff at 5/5 iirc

[undone ether]

and Haymaker at 4/5 ._.;

its tough.

[tulip python]

You have solalego which ignores

[undone ether]

but solgaleo is weak to ground so... ooof.

[tulip python]

Yeaahhhh

[undone ether]

(then again i use Solgaleof or this week's Steel Weak Bertha)

[wide adder]

maybe i should just use gladion

[undone ether]

but its more of i presynced with SC Steven, Pal Marnie and Solgaleo

i just rng'd for Bertha to use Earthquake on her first queu

[tulip python]

Oh RedChu

[undone ether]

and none of the sides want to do any attacks D;

[tulip python]

If you can off type

[undone ether]

yeah if your on-type options can't do it, might as well off-type 😭

[wide adder]

whats a good third for train bros if i dont feel like using olivia this week

[tulip python]

I mean RedChu gets haymaker too doesn’t he and Berthas stage emphasizes physical

[wide adder]

does he have haymaker at 1/5

cause my red is 1/5 exr

[undone ether]

SST Red haymaker is at 3/5 iirc

[wide adder]

Do these teams look like they’d work?

[undone ether]

eh?

oh 1 is for cynthia. ... right? ;o

[wide adder]

1 is for ground weak

3 is for dragon weak

[undone ether]

try it i guess o/

[wide adder]

My raihan is 3/5 ex so I don’t think I’d struggle on the dragon fight

[tulip python]

Uh, hmm

Yeah that ground week is best bet there

I would’ve saved her for Cynthia

But that’s aight

You want a counter weather setter for Cynthia tho

[wide adder]

raihan can place weather.

if i use max flare

since i assume from that comment that i wanna get rid of sand

[tulip python]

Yeah cause

Cynthia has a benefit from@that

[wide adder]

bertha teams failing, gonna offtype her

[manic kiln]

use kgrimsley solgaleo and hop

[tulip python]

Yeah, that’s probably a decent one

You’re gonna have to really time Grimsley’s counter

[wide adder]

im just gonna see how nywallace feels offtype

pfft, ok, guessing she has wentry, swapping to a physical team

so close

i almost beat it with aura cynthia, redchu, and ss hilda

but all died on sync except cynthia, i think i need one of the dps to not be ground weak lmao

oh wait now i realize why victini died, i mightve had striker 3x on still

[tulip python]

Red Chu is a beast

More so if with Zapdos

[wide adder]

ugh, got crit turn 1 when i quad queued reds max move

so redchu on like 5% hp turn 1

phone died on me when i mighta won that run

didnt notice my phone was down to like 5% or less

no wonder that fight attempt was lagging

[tulip python]

RNG is always a factor

[lean lion]

Not the cleanest run but easy 3k Cynthia with power boosted Cyrus + NC Rosa + Blaine

[sick inlet]

What's tomorrow's weaknesses

(to anyone interested like me)

Ew poison weak

W everything else

[wide adder]

Well it took a lot more tries than I’m happy with but I managed to 3k steel Bertha…
I still need a new steel fav that isn’t ground weak istg

[keen jasper]

Emma time

[wide adder]

Zamazenta being the only survivor by a one turn clock is NOT OKAY

Would of been a lot less painful if she didn’t have hs1 on that stage but god I proceed to hate this Bertha with a passion

[manic kiln]

ground weak still finish with full HP

[wide adder]

…Huh. TIL you can self sacrifice via poison dot to delay sync slightly…

[manic kiln]

just roll for no earthquake run

[wide adder]

My team cleared post sync personally

So eq or no didn’t change much

[manic kiln]

post sync

[wide adder]

I try to presync everything but sometimes fights get pushed one turn after sync

Mostly cause most of my fights are stubbornly on +12 str +8 hp

Been so long since I’ve used RayZinnia, that was fun actually building around her for once

[left storm]

Is Rosa non exed?

[silver dirge]

She has her EX outfit there

[lean lion]

She's EXed

[left storm]

Probably could've synced with her instead on first cycle

[lean lion]

Failed pre sync a few times cause I couldn't get 2nd sync out fast enough

Tried this and it worked out in 3-4 retries

[versed mural]

Need help with R1 1.5k Aaron.

[old orchid]

im thinking of Courtney, Bertha and Sonia

can replace Bertha with any weather changer, aside from Acerold who is super useful on Flint R3

[silver dirge]

Acerold

[old orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-acerola-cute-spin-around-gif-15122880

[versed mural]

Thank you!

I'll be honest she don't look too old tho..

[dark osprey]

Could also use May for the weather change and some damage too

[old orchid]

[versed mural]

Probably better to save books

Btw small question if I use May my main DD will still be Courtney Right?

[old orchid]

both will deal damage so its up to how you define "main DD"

remember to turn off special dmg reduction if you use May

[versed mural]

My May just doesn't do dmg

[old orchid]

altho without a spatk support May wont deal too much damage

[versed mural]

Plus Sonia doesn't boost Sp atk

I feel may eats too much gauge and not enough dmg

Maybe that's a me problem

[old orchid]

if enemies hitting hard is not a problem, you can try a mixed support like Torchic

try syncing with May first, her Racing Rain 3 + gauge refill on TM is handy

[versed mural]

I'm trying to save books rn

Cuz next week CSMM looks not friendly to the point I have to Offtype all except bertha

[old orchid]

stick with May Courtney Sonia team then, Sonia buffs speed slowly and she has MGA on Potion

[old orchid]

looking into your roster, i doubt that

[versed mural]

Actually Mewtwo for flint

Ho oh for Aaron

[old orchid]

Giovanni + NC Rosa + a spatk support = profit on Flint
Silver + a sun setter + an offensive support on Aaron
Nessa + Masked Royal + tank on Lucian
toxic stall on Cynthia

[versed mural]

Kind of what I was thinking

[old orchid]

its not too bad, at minimum you only have to spend sync orbs on Silver for damage multipliers

[versed mural]

So Gio + NC Rosa + Elesa (SS)
Silver + SS Erika + Sycamore
Nessa + MR + Raichu or smth else

[old orchid]

you even have Bianca so you can replace NC Rosa with her, and save Rosa for a struggling team

[versed mural]

I'll go with Rosa on Cynthia with maybe Lucy

Actually I'm chilling

Nvm lol

[old orchid]

using Rosa on a toxic team is a bit weird to me

also Sycamore with Silver is not really a fitting choice, both want first sync to buff offensive buffs

Silver is missing +1 crit if you sync with Sycamore first

that assumes Silver has Dauntless

you can use Hop instead

or Iono if you want to use Overheat

[versed mural]

Ok

I think I'll put Sycamore with Lucy then

Since that worked for me on 850 Lucian

[old orchid]

wait, that means Silver is missing speed for Inertia

[versed mural]

Rosa..?

[old orchid]

then you have to gamble on random buffs from her B Move

and in Psychic form she is weak to Bug

[versed mural]

Her TM boosts speed right?

[old orchid]

yeah

[versed mural]

Not all the way tho only +4

She risks 2 turn of eating bug attacks

[old orchid]

how about Masked Royal + Silver + Hop? Silver has to sync first

and on Nessa's comp you use Nanu for defense debuffs

[versed mural]

Alright

Oh yeah ik to set sun

Or else he does baby damage.

[old orchid]

[versed mural]

Also why is Nanu a good Def debuffer he's like my least favorite character ever

[old orchid]

he has Screech + 60% flinch on Bite

if you dont like him, can use another option

[versed mural]

My only other option is Grimsley to my knowledge

He's slow isn't he

He has that whole def down gamble thing

[old orchid]

no, Grimsley's role is not the same as Nanu's

Nanu's role is debuffing defense

[versed mural]

Yeah I get he's more of a nuker

He just has screech

[old orchid]

ah you are talking about Kimono Grimsley, not OG Grimsley

[versed mural]

Im not touching him ever again

Unless LG comes back with Cresselia

[old orchid]

Sonia + Nessa + KGrimsley then

Sonia has very good gauge with speed buffs and MGA

[versed mural]

Wait Potion gives MGA?

[old orchid]

thanks to Sonia's passive

[versed mural]

Holy that seems so good

[cinder summit]

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[versed mural]

No wonder you like her

Now I want 3/5 Sonia

[old orchid]

i like her because of her character, she just happens to get insane kit in this game

[versed mural]

I just think she's a Leon hater/liker (iykyk)

And a cool professor ig

[versed mural]

Finally did it! ( Also if someone could tell me what I could improve on or If my queing was okay it would be much appreciated!!)

[versed mural]

Btw (did the video not upload? Cuz it's here but there's a little cross Icon)

[north crown]

dw, the video uploaded. nice casual clear! One thing I would advise is to try to always set field effects later in the action queue, as it lasts "longer" that way.

[versed mural]

Ok thank you!!

[dark osprey]

Btw, did you take special damage reduction? May seems to be not doing anything at all

[hearty lynx]

finallly i managed to beat Bertha

[versed mural]

Yes

[versed mural]

How else am I reaching 1250 so easily lol

I'm slowly progressing on points

[dark osprey]

Seems good enough 👍

[versed mural]

Next time probably 1.5k

[dark osprey]

Can keep resetting and experimenting once you've reached your goal

[old orchid]

[versed mural]

I did try 1.5k

It just was close at times but didn't hapen

Tried for about an hour

I can probably do it but not feeling it rn

[north crown]

Is Courtney 1/5? If so, I fear you may not be able to do get much higher on Aaron's stage. He requires weather to not hit like a truck

[versed mural]

Courtney is 1/5

[versed mural]

Also May is changing weather but not nearly for long enough

Does 2/5 May get MPR on Rain dance?

If so I can try if..?

[north crown]

eh I wouldn't push your luck, especially if your resources are already stretched thin.

[versed mural]

I have 60 sync orbs

[rain turret]

why eng dub though?

[versed mural]

Just went with it I probably will switch to JPN

[mellow linden]

Because they can? Nothing wrong with English dub

[versed mural]

Tbh I think I can 3k Cynthia

Maybe a hot take but she seems so easy

[steel kelp]

Cynthia is the easiest

It’s possible to beat her without changing weather

[versed mural]

What if I went Drasna Rosa Cyrus

[formal vigil]

Should work fine

[north crown]

Tha's a very hyper offensive clear if I do say so myself

[versed mural]

There's no way Lvl 100 Valerie beats a 1.25k stage-

[mellow linden]

1250 points on a stage isn’t too much of a difficulty increase over Hard Mode, so that’s not too surprising

[versed mural]

Probably why I was able to do it

[mellow linden]

Level 120 will obviously add more consistency tho

[versed mural]

Ik just saving books for tmrw

Ik just surprised she lived sync

[hearty lynx]

im using Iono paired with SS Ethan

fun team

[tulip python]

Oleana* ftfy lol

[frozen fossil]

Whom did you fight against for which round?

[junior solstice]

Genuinely

How do you beat Bertha

She kills me at even 2.5k points

[trail smelt]

My teams

Bertha can be annoying with her headstart

[junior solstice]

"can"

I get murdered even with Rose Classic red and NC Rosa idk how

She kills me with eq

[trail smelt]

What parameters are you using?

Looking at your team I don’t see any physical damage mitigation… other than hoping NCRosa does it I guess haha

[junior solstice]

Current one is phys dmg reduction

should i just use my carnie team

cause at this point i might as well

nvm i barely pulled it off

sinnoh cs is easily the hardest one ive ever played against

[wide adder]

this is why i ended up using a team able to skip at least 1 sync cycle vs her via accel

pain that its gonna come back in week after this upcoming one

[dark osprey]

Bertha seemed like a good chance to use a sprint pair

[blazing narwhal]

Is there any wise/sentry entry in this cs ?

[old orchid]

The pins have info on every stage

[blazing narwhal]

Eh I ain’t tryna look thru all their kits

[old orchid]

[undone ether]

this one or in 2hours? o_o?

There's only 1 Entry x2, and its Lucian in 2hours. They really dont want you to use NC Marnie ( or SS Cyrus) 😭

[silver dirge]

NC Marnie absolutely obliterates Lucian anyway

WE x2 is not stopping her

[undone ether]

at 1/5? 😦

[silver dirge]

Yeah? She doesn't get many DPS multipliers even at 3/5

If she can offtype 4k points she can definitely ontype WE x2

[toxic cobalt]

Who cares about defence when the enemy can't move?

[swift swan]

people overestimate x2 entry way too much. it's not as big of a deal as most make it out to be

it just means your ontype damage dealers will be hitting as if they're offtyping

but without the bullshit bulk CSMM forces you to take if you're actually offtyping and without losing super effective multipliers that you might have

[toxic cobalt]

But what if you can't off-type? :

[old orchid]

then skill issue

[toxic cobalt]

[silver dirge]

Offtype my beloved

[silver dirge]

It's definitely easier than taking Defense parameters

[toxic cobalt]

Alright so SS Brock is doing nothing to Flint

[swift swan]

roark time

[swift swan]

updated

half sync countdown for psychic weak my beloved

[old orchid]

[toxic cobalt]

Why is this not the last week

[toxic cobalt]

i call this 3 separate stall params

[silver dirge]

Half sync

[swift swan]

so real so true

[steel kelp]

Half sync with nc rosa sprint

[undone ether]

Didnt need nc rosa sync xD

[silver dirge]

Huge surprise considering that team there

[undone ether]

i must've max countdown -2 i think

ah wells.

even if he survived, +2/+3 with Psychic Terrain with the next move by Latias and SS Steven o/

[steel kelp]

Nc rosa is very funny with all the pmun/smun you want

[undone ether]

indeed

[steel kelp]

Didn’t stand a chance with caitlin and bianca

[undone ether]

EX Caitlin? 😮

[steel kelp]

Yes

But I sync with rosa first

Psychic and hidden power and he died

Actually when does hidden power cap

[cedar flume]

Time for another week of sinnoh cs

[swift swan]

bertha stop opening with high horsepower challenge

[old orchid]

"An opening!" she said

[swift swan]

is bertha programmed to use EQ after poison tail

i'm losing my mind

[trail smelt]

Easy crush this week

Bertha used EQ on me just before she synced this week

Ready for next week. Changed things up for quite a few of my teams

[versed mural]

Bertha wasn't difficult due to Grusha's Absolute Zero Avalance

[swift swan]

i need to stop doing theme clears in Sinnoh CS

wise entry x2 lucian is kicking my ass

[trail smelt]

What’s the theme?

[swift swan]

all Kantrio

[trail smelt]

Oh yikes

The SS?

[swift swan]

all

I've done this before

clearing CSMM with only kantrio

but sinnoh-

[trail smelt]

Huh didn’t realize we have 5 Leafs already

[swift swan]

iirc we have 15 Kantrio total, I only have 14 though, fuck mix scouts

[silver dirge]

[swift swan]

yeah I'm throwing in the towel

[versed mural]

Rip

[silver dirge]

You knew better than to throw silly themes at Sinnoh

[old orchid]

suffer with me

[versed mural]

What are y'all's trying

[swift swan]

apparently i did not

[old orchid]

silly theme clears

[swift swan]

masochistic behavior

[silver dirge]

Masochism is a common theme around here

[versed mural]

I might try it too

[swift swan]

don't

for your own sanity

[versed mural]

If I had one

My problem is I don't have many themes due to my lack of units

But I can make something I'm sure lol

[paper summit]

seek help, smh

[wide adder]

Is one of these better than Umbregg for this team?

[swift swan]

CCalem already sets dark zone, you don't need umbreon

there's CMarnie right there

[old orchid]

she should easily brute force through WEx2

[wide adder]

Wasn’t sure if cmarnie was worth since she’s special instead of physical since opposite damage type of Serena. Alright

[swift swan]

like I said

[wide adder]

I wasn’t even thinking of entry

Just was opposite of Serena lol

[swift swan]

you can afford not taking physical/special dmg reduction. it's the frogs and marnie

[manic kiln]

I didn’t even notice there’s WE, Karen cleared just fine

You don’t even need serena for this tho what

[wide adder]

i dont need serena elsewhere this week so was having fun with her in dark stage

with her dark side nuke

[versed mural]

I know it's not impressive and only 1.5k and against Lucian but I'll still take it.(Kantrio)

[silver dirge]

Don't dishearten yourself, we all start somewhere

Nicely done!

[main crow]

Half sync again

[swift swan]

it's okay in a few months you're going to be banging your head against the wall because you set a stupidly difficult and annoying challenge on Kalos 3k CSMM and suffer like the rest of us

[versed mural]

I expect to

[silver dirge]

If you'd like to preserve your sanity, do as we say not as we do

[versed mural]

Seems like a advice I'd nod to and forget 5 seconds later

[wide adder]

man, splitting up the lati's just feels
wrong now that i have both, but ncrosa is so nice with a 1/5 Lussa lol

[versed mural]

I expect to *ever since I decided to solo Raikou(the easiest) I was furious at the stupid Paras at unfortunate times like it took me 2 days and I actually didn't play PoMa the next day but at the end I did for dailies

[swift swan]

soloing! i'm so proud

[silver dirge]

Oh no we're already losing em to LG

[swift swan]

[silver dirge]

[versed mural]

Lol

[swift swan]

solo Latios instead, it's easier by far

[versed mural]

Also Thundurus was soloed by SST

That took me 5 tries

[wide adder]

for offtyping, ss ethan, ssserena, or something else? (forgot to cross out Gloralt in image i think)

[swift swan]

cerena

[wide adder]

sorry, put wrong prefix for serena

meant to put ss as in zygarde

[swift swan]

zerea offtypes fine too

[silver dirge]

There's a few options there that off-type just fine

[swift swan]

plus yours is rolex

[wide adder]

no matter which i use im using ncblue with them

[swift swan]

pick a special damage dealer then.

[silver dirge]

Just be weary if you're going to bulk them up with too much HP & Strength, SS Serena will take more effort because of the AoE penalty. Reasonable params however she will breeze through

[wide adder]

both options that im leaning toward are special lol, i just dunno if ssethan or zygarde does more offtype

[silver dirge]

Serena by far, Ethan's DPS is relatively lackluster in general

[wide adder]

alright

is redchu third option fine for debuffs + sync accel? or should i bring ssbrendan instead or something for my third?

[silver dirge]

SST Red can offtype the stage himself as the sole damage dealer

[wide adder]

my red's only 1/5

[silver dirge]

Doesn't matter

[wide adder]

damn zygarde nuke followed by redchu bmove just erased sides turn 3 ok thx done my 15k week, no way im losing when mids alone that early

i keep underestimating red every time i use him

not used to a broken unit to this degree yet

[swift swan]

cynthia is poison weak and the round parameter encourages stalling. and yet she has hostile environment 4 and spams fire blast

go off queen!

[versed mural]

Lucy...........

[undone ether]

for some reason, she never actually used her fire blasts o-o

[plush tangle]

Flameproof

[undone ether]

i got blizzard' by the sides though ;_;

but Ball Guy just clears those ;-;

[plush tangle]

That reminds me when I poison stall'd her for the battle factory event... Urgh

[swift swan]

SHUSH

I remember poison stalling her when sinnoh CSMM first debuted

[old orchid]

oh right, the Battle Factory event was during Sinnoh CS

[plush tangle]

like wtf was that

[sick inlet]

The kind of Solos that make everything right

[silver dirge]

I've become a big fan of half sync

[sick inlet]

Yeeee

[silver dirge]

[sick inlet]

Half sync = automatic Deoxys solo

[undone ether]

great stall team ❤️

was that the poison weak Cynthia that just +3 Eva whenever she syncs?

[plush tangle]

poison stall (not toxic!) but the main tank gets burned half the time and the synchro healer is weak to dazzling gleam

[silver dirge]

Skull

[plush tangle]

yup

thankfully leaf's sync raises accuracy

but smog is still a 70% accuracy move

trully the poison stall of all time

[undone ether]

thankfully, ball guy exists .-.!

[plush tangle]

ABOUT THAT

man battle factory sure was something

had to tank with wallace because of regen 2

[undone ether]

Dark Weak right? i would've done it with SS Korinna if we're gonna steal buffs hehe

[plush tangle]

that was ghost weak

it's not this week

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message ngl my team was screaming gauge issues

[swift swan]

i need you to link me to your full battle factory teams. i need to see this.

[cedar flume]

✨15k✨ Tbh idk why Aaron is always trouble. Herecross was acting bulky till he got hit with +7 PMUN V-Create in Sun 🤷🏽‍♂️

[plush tangle]

#1011786909011423282 message with the video a bit below

[verbal karma]

Aight, who's the least dangerous for half sync countdown this time?

[silver dirge]

No one

Like every other time, you just throw your strongest & most comfortable team to half sync

[manic kiln]

Use your psychic team for half sync

You have rosa and lana

choose the parameters based on on your team not the enemies, told you thousands of time

[silver dirge]

Lvl 141

[sick inlet]

Stall who

I haven't stalled

In over a year

[silver dirge]

Same

[sick inlet]

I feel i forgot how it is done

[keen jasper]

I haven't stalled ever since the first Sinnoh CS came out almost 2 years ago

[swift swan]

I stall for silly theme clears nowadays

[manic kiln]

F2p bat team not stall tho just nuke

[plush tangle]

i stalled as recently as last week for my no EX unit challenge

[silver dirge]

Zubat line takeover

[manic kiln]

using stall for poison weak is lame tbh

[versed mural]

I didn't stall too.. definetly

[sick inlet]

I did a Duo Stall before, so that's why I say over a year, but i stopped stalling since long ago

Regardless it's still such a good way to clear difficult stages.

Low risk

And easy to do

[swift swan]

I stalled as recently as early this month with a team that gave my fellow helpers a heart attack

[plush tangle]

ss leaf can solo stall

[swift swan]

This week is just too rough HE4 Fire Blast Cynthia just means a very high chance she can't move

But yeah i've done ss leaf solo stalls before

Haven't solo'd since 3k though

[sick inlet]

Already proved that before

[sick inlet]

Show said team

[lean lion]

Got 7.5k first clear with these teams. Lucian>Flint>Aaron>Bertha. Any adjustments I can make to do better? I struggled the most against Aaron. Endurance is a pain to deal with and gauge isn't working out to properly triple queue. Also sending a picture of all my fire sync pairs, would any of them work better?

[sick inlet]

Do you have Silver's grid expansion?

[formal vigil]

Is your leaf 3/5?

[lean lion]

No

Yeah 4/5

[sick inlet]

Does hilda have inertia at 2/5?

Lemme check

[formal vigil]

Yes

[formal vigil]

Replace shauna with someone that can poison to activate roxie poison multipliers on grid

[lean lion]

Roxie can poison herself

[sick inlet]

Silver is useless without Sun, I would take Hilda over him for Aaron. With Inertia you can nuke past Endurance

[lean lion]

I gridded her for extra chance for poison

[formal vigil]

Then use a someone that debuffs defence instead

And Lucian replace sycamore with another dark dps

[lean lion]

Who do you recommend?

[formal vigil]

Do you have nessa?

[sick inlet]

Houndoom if you're taking lucian

Or did you mean the stage-

[lean lion]

No i was asking which sync pair, okay will build Karen and Hilda

Apart from Inertia what else should I get from Hilda

?

[formal vigil]

Ramming speed and standfast tiles

[lean lion]

I was thinking both Standfast tiles, ramming speed and maybe gradual heal on mp?

Alright

[silver dirge]

Have all these, the rest doesn't really matter

[sick inlet]

Dmg tiles or potion

[sick inlet]

In addition to this

[silver dirge]

[lean lion]

Thanks done

[lean lion]

Lucian has wise entry. Do I build around Bite and not sync with Karen?

[sick inlet]

No, I thought you had Lucian in your team - forget I even said Karen

Take Sydney, he's really good and also simple to use

[lean lion]

Already dumped 3k sync orbs on Karen

[sick inlet]

Rip

[lean lion]

It won't go to complete waste right?

[sick inlet]

He loses Bite after Mega evolving

[lean lion]

Will be useful sometime

[versed meteor]

There are not a lot of units combination that take advantage of five stats down 3, we should get impervious as a lucky cookie already

[lean lion]

Okay I'll do that thanks

[sick inlet]

Not complete waste, Karen is really good

Just not vs wise entry 2

[manic kiln]

still clear with her this week, postsync tho but she's good enough

[sick inlet]

There are quite the few now though, Yveltal (5/5), Victini, Deoxys, Shiny Rayquaza and I am sure there are a few others that I am missing

[silver dirge]

Yea and everyone with Impervious

[versed meteor]

Yeh but most are attacking units

Supports usually dont get impervious

[sick inlet]

Sycamore wants a word with you

[silver dirge]

Leaf too

[lean lion]

Is bringing Hilda to R4 bad? Does the round effect make you take increased recoil damage?

[formal vigil]

No

[lean lion]

I'm killing myself before killing mid lol

Even with both Standfast tiles

Running with Shauna and EX SS Blue

[formal vigil]

You don't need both shauana and blue replace shauana and for sun setter like blaine

[lean lion]

But still, recoil is literally taking 25% hp

I'm dying by myself

No hits taken

[formal vigil]

Might be worth not using flare blitz

Like at all

[lean lion]

Flame charge will be enough?

[formal vigil]

Just rely on your nuke for damage

Flame charge and nuke under sun should work fine

[lean lion]

Alright thanks I'll try

[sick inlet]

Flame charge anyways because you want max speed on her

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message

[sick inlet]

Inertia and Ramming speed hit better the more speed you got

I don't know what Lyra does

Lodge Dawn be a beast though

[swift swan]

yeah i explained (defended) my team below lol

[sick inlet]

I meant I don't know her kit because I am a

But I agree with your solid defense

[versed mural]

First ever 7.5k!!

[sick inlet]

I seen these teams somewhere before

[versed mural]

Probably lol