#Champion Stadium

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steel kelp
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No wonder you aren’t doing anything

formal vigil
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Replace Dana with colress

brave halo
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I tried colress, he just dies

verbal karma
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...okay, I might have approached R2 Bertha incorrectly from the very beginning

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I should...probably build a team that does NOT rely on an EX support sync buff

pseudo drum
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I have got Bertha covered
Flint is the only one bothering me

manic kiln
brave halo
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I've been at this for like 2 to 3 hours, maybe over like 40 times

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And I've tried on type, off type, nothing works

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And yes nc red is useless here

pseudo drum
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Where

brave halo
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You see how much I'm losing it right now?

pseudo drum
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Who are you battling

steel kelp
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That sounds like a

brave halo
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Bertha

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She just wins regardless and I'm losing it

manic mica
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oh i literally came here because i couldn't beat 3k bertha

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lmao

brave halo
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I've been swapping between params like a ping pong ball

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And still nothing

manic mica
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i gave up and just got 3k in the others, for bertha i just switched off master mode

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i think i've been on her for like 2 hours

modest gull
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Hey guys! Idk if it's just me or is quad queing not working? I'm on Bertha's stage if that's any help

dense birch
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Dangit. Lol. 3k attempt

pseudo drum
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O
My set for Bertha
3/5 colress(-6def) 2/5 rose(strike) hop(tank)

manic mica
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nothing works for me loll

steel kelp
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Could’ve just done lower points but whatever

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You got the stage done

formal vigil
manic mica
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maybe i should do that

brave halo
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I'm just in belief that players are not meant to beat Bertha

brave halo
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She is like chess ai

dense birch
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yes

steel kelp
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they should give more people head start

modest gull
formal vigil
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Lol

manic mica
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lemme try bertha r1 (atk reduction)

brave halo
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I just want them to nerf sinnoh cs badly

manic kiln
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not with the powercreep SophoKEK

steel kelp
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Why nerf it

formal vigil
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You could just lower points if your struggling so much

brave halo
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Like seriously this is unfair

steel kelp
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It’s been out for a while

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Just be better

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Also yea

brave halo
steel kelp
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No one is forcing you guys to do 3k

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The spirits don’t matter

manic kiln
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imma gonna try a rose clear, it's mostly parameters issue for you

steel kelp
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You barely get that much more

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I doubt you’re that low on spirits

brave halo
dense birch
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for 99.9% people, it's about pride. haha

manic kiln
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i won with f2p and gen pool units LarryDead with premium units you should be able to win

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she is hard yes just need to play smart

brave halo
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Screw this, alright then

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Ash

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You better damn win or I swear

manic kiln
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like
you can flinch multiple times

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she couldn't do anything
1/5 non ex rose

manic mica
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oh okay my hop gets one shot by earth power after healthy benefits 5 is broken

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switching parameters for his potions to see if it works

dense birch
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man i can't use skyla. just tried her over hop, she gets 2 shotted. stomp > high horsepower. haha

manic mica
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hmm okay now my solgaleo gets one shot by bertha's sync

manic mica
tardy belfry
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meanwhile metagross and palmarnie combo just flinch-locks bertha's team to oblivion on r3

manic mica
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okay lemme try to poison stall bertha

brave halo
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This is ridiculous

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Not even ash could win against Bertha

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This is just........mind numbing

old orchid
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You know, just copy the exact team and parameters from Lost

manic kiln
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wait a bit im gonna send vid

dense birch
manic kiln
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need to resize

dense birch
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i want to see if there's a way to take out gradual healing

grave wyvern
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that param low-key annoys me fr

dense birch
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tbh i probs could have killed in my screenshot. that sliver of health was probably all from gradual healing

manic mica
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wait i actually am able to stall with poison

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against bertha

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just need to be lucky with potion mrs

manic kiln
brave halo
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I almost had, I swear I almost had it

manic kiln
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don't need to use potion like i did, just spam gust for flinch, flinch grid for skyla

brave halo
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But I couldn't kill the side in time

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Can sides just stop with aoe

manic kiln
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sides should be dead after max move

brave halo
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I was using ash and red

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I literally almost had it

nocturne pawn
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wait

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you lost with rose?

manic kiln
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yeah

brave halo
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Too many times with him

nocturne pawn
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even at 1/5 he fucks bertha up

brave halo
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He just can't kill in time for me

nocturne pawn
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and im assuming thats also 1/5 in the vid

brave halo
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One sync and he dies

nocturne pawn
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not even a side denial?

manic kiln
nocturne pawn
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i mean

old orchid
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Just follow Lost's gameplay exactly

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Its not that hard

nocturne pawn
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ive done steel weak bertha with a 3/5 raihan before

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still works PickleDumb

brave halo
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I tried with raihan too but still can't kill in time before she syncs

manic mica
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okay i beat bertha LMAO

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i can't believe poison stall worked

nocturne pawn
manic mica
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use the normal poison stall parameters with bp morty/ss leaf/Janine

nocturne pawn
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but im saying i have done it before

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so no reason rose cant

brave halo
manic mica
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i got lucky with potion mrs + misses, and my bp morty & janine are raised to 5 stars if that matters

brave halo
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Nothing worked, as I've told others

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Not even nc red wins

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That's how bad this is

manic mica
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im just glad i beat bertha 3k finally lmaooo

manic kiln
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watch the vid WEEZing

nocturne pawn
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for harder cs especially

manic kiln
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it's not a bad stage, you just didn't utilize your roster to full potential

nocturne pawn
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you cant just run the same things and expect them to work

manic mica
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you could try poison stall too

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it worked for me

nocturne pawn
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nothing she really does is that ridiculous

brave halo
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Trust me I've been swapping between teams constantly

manic mica
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you could even use event misty & psyduck instead of bp morty

brave halo
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Like I'm trying to figure out what to use

versed mural
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Finally beat CSMM 4.2k points!! It was easier than hard idk why..

nocturne pawn
brave halo
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That too

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I literally almost had it once

manic kiln
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enough with the whining

nocturne pawn
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granted

old orchid
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also no fillers needed for the medal

nocturne pawn
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850 point mm shouldnt feel much harder than hard

versed mural
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Yeah Doing CS constantly helps me understand which params were needed

versed mural
nocturne pawn
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lucian is definitely the stupidest e4 ive encountered up to this point

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extraordinarily anti special

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for no reason

versed mural
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Last week Lucian might have been a nightmare for me if it was MM

nocturne pawn
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and oh look its ground weak aaron guess i have to use rose on that stage

nocturne pawn
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bug weak is absolutely miserable

versed mural
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I don't have a good Ghost Phy attacker

old orchid
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you should be thankful for Lucian this week. Flying weak is the only Lucian stage without Wise Entry x2

brave halo
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FINALLY GAH

nocturne pawn
versed mural
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Yeah felt really easy without Wise entry

nocturne pawn
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compared to the usual 17k

versed mural
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I mean non gridded 120 Blue could beat it

brave halo
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Now I can finally move onto aaron

nocturne pawn
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uh does aaron have any damage reduction passives im missing

manic kiln
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acute sense

nocturne pawn
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disabled that

manic kiln
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that's all

nocturne pawn
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but he was only taking like 3k with a support ex from rose

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maybe have to change some stuff

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maybe strength 12 is too much

swift swan
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Sounds like parameter issue

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Are you sure phys dmg reduction isn't accidentally turned on

nocturne pawn
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its not

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i checked three times lol

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im just guessing its str12 having too much defense

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yep i am throughly confused

old orchid
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what move level is Rose?

nocturne pawn
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is that not enough for his coverage

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cuz uhh

old orchid
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even with 1/5 that seems wrong

nocturne pawn
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my only other ground type is courtney which is very :)

nocturne pawn
old orchid
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did you pick Gradual Healing?

nocturne pawn
old orchid
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so Acute Sense disabled

nocturne pawn
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oh

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i dont even need bertha then

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im silly

old orchid
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hi silly

nocturne pawn
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courtney time

nocturne pawn
old orchid
swift swan
# verbal karma I should...probably build a team that does NOT rely on an EX support sync buff

#1011173305702690876 message if you're still on R2 Bertha by the time you read this, look at this.
Doesn't rely on EX support, has defense debuffs, has flinches, keeps Solgaleo
Use this as a reference. I know your KGrimsley isn't EXd so you're not going to do as much as I did first sync, so if you decide to do this, here are my suggestions.

Replace some strength with -2 sync countdown. Let KGrimsley nuke mid and DPS the rest until Bertha dies.

For an easier time, do this R3 for guaranteed flinches from Grimsley.

You can try playing around with Metal Burst, just click Grimsley's TM before using it.

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Do keep in mind that there will be RNG involved once you take out mid.

nocturne pawn
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still doesnt really get close

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idk

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ill just do someone else for the time being

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only gets to around 1/3

swift swan
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I genuinely can't fathom how that didn't work

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Switch to full offensive params? Remove some bulk

trail smelt
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I did find it surprising that Aaron managed to tank FRoxanne’s sync

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Unfortunately for him a Bulldozer from my sides finished him off lol

dense birch
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Lol i did it hahaha. R2 Bertha 3k

  1. Hop cannot take more than 3 attacks on their first 3 turns. Idk if there is a way to make him tankier, he already has Vigilance
  2. Hop cannot be flinched the turn before Solgaleo uses sync
  3. Hop needs to proc Freevenge at least once before Solgaleo syncs
  4. Solgaleo sync must crit, and kill both sides
  5. Bertha cannot use EQ even once
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All the stars aligned

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Only took…2 hrs

trail smelt
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It do be like that sometimes

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Reminds me of my Fairy clear vs Cynthia last week

crystal quartz
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Should I have saved team plasma guy for r2 where debuffs are more effective?

dark osprey
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Depends on your roster. Could use others as well

crystal quartz
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Which of the elite 4 are good spc attackers so I know not to leave them for r4

dark osprey
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All are mostly physical iirc

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You may have debuffers like Kukui, Nanu, quite a few eggmons

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And it's not necessary to use debuffers

crystal quartz
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So for cynthia fight do I still have to deal with being unable to use my previous units

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Or can I use everyone

steel kelp
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Why would cynthia be any different

crystal quartz
grave wyvern
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There is always a R5 gimmick

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You can check them in pomatools

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(Their passives, etc)

crystal quartz
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Oh wait I can see it now

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Hmm

brave halo
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To make it easier, just get a weather setter

crystal quartz
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Thing is I could use sygna suit eirika for cynthia then

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Or I could use courtney

crystal quartz
brave halo
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You'll need a weather outside sand

crystal quartz
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Wow wally sucked

steel kelp
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Wally exists

crystal quartz
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But then they gave him ground weakness

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WHAT DO I DO NOW THAT MY ONLY TANK LEFT IS SYCAMORE

brave halo
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Wait hold on, what stage is this?

crystal quartz
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How do I beat lucian

old orchid
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better showing your roster first

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using the tracker site

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+tracker

frozen depotBOT
verbal karma
mellow linden
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Is there a specific reason that’s a problem?

verbal karma
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I don't like how heavily luck dependant he is, combined with the fact that the stage itself is already heavily luck dependant as is

mellow linden
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Round 3

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Means less RNG

old orchid
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with Aggravation gridded his flinch chance is 100%

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literally no rng

steel kelp
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Just use your head

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the funny is burst tho

mellow linden
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What team are you even trying to save for Round 3 that apparently means Round 3 Bertha is a no-go

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If it has anything to do with A. Skyla then let me save you the trouble by informing you that Round 3 does not affect passives like Staggering

grand trout
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I used raihan for cynthia

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Weather wars it is

wicked junco
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For non AnniSkyla/SSEthan owners what did you guys use for R4 Lucian?

mellow linden
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I’d imagine most of them used Blue + Pidgeot

silver dirge
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Anni Steven SeleneLul but Blue should work

grand trout
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Blue

wicked junco
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For a monotype I would imagine something with Falkner and Blue, but what about the 3rd one?

grand trout
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I'd use my lysandre but he's always my go-to flying but i used blue for a change

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Skyla

silver dirge
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Is the monotype restriction just a self-challenge? Cos support typing wouldn't matter

grand trout
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Gallade is mixed but the defense, speed, and potions will help

wicked junco
silver dirge
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Ah

grand trout
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Alternatively you can use darach for feather dance gaming MinaSmile

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There's still the question of DG and psybeam

silver dirge
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You could go for Winona flinches SeleneLul

grand trout
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So i suggest skyla

wicked junco
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Yeah lysandre just evaporates to a couple dazzling gleams

grand trout
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Skyla can also flinch LilliePout

old orchid
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Falkner can flinch too FalknerSuprised

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~~and Blue if you dont ever sync with him TabithaHehe ~~

crystal quartz
old orchid
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please insert their correct move level as well

crystal quartz
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How do I do that?

old orchid
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also use the tutorial video to make all of them into a single image

crystal quartz
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🦆

old orchid
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on mobile you have to hold over the move level icon iirc

crystal quartz
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Maybe I should just figure this out myself

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Showing my roster is taking too much effort

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So how come kyurem guy does no damage to lucian?

silver dirge
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Good luck! We can't really help without proper knowledge of your roster SeleneLul

silver dirge
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Who are you running him with?

steel kelp
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What’s ghetsis for

crystal quartz
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Idk i have no idea how to beat lucian

silver dirge
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What is the team you are running him with? Are you triple queuing consistently? Syncing on time? It's impossible to help without more information

crystal quartz
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I see the win condition

keen jasper
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I actually can't believe I won against Bertha using cheese strats in 4k pts.

crystal quartz
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No I do not see the win condition

keen jasper
grand trout
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Is this our first 5 week sinnog

lunar meadow
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Good morning everyone!
Nice easy reset Mondays!

tulip rover
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Lots of me.

crystal quartz
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I cant beat flint either

lunar meadow
lunar meadow
crystal quartz
lunar meadow
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Use sandstorm, hail, or rain.
Or use 3/5 RayVen to remove sun

crystal quartz
lunar meadow
silver dirge
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Winona? May?

crystal quartz
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ACEROLA DOESNT EVEN HAVE A GROUND ATTACK BUT HAS SANDSTORM

keen jasper
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Yeesh, I need to get my Gloria to 5/5 if I don't want any cheese strat luck on the harder steel-weak stages

wicked junco
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I used LodgeRaihan if you have that, it's useful enough if you can get them pre-sync

tulip rover
lunar meadow
lunar meadow
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Steel-weak Bertha has sentry entry x2, and that was the first time I found Metagross to be low

tulip rover
silver dirge
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Metagross my beloved

lunar meadow
crystal quartz
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ACEROLA GETS TWO SHOT

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WHY DOES SHE SUCK SO MUCH

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ISNT EVEN A TANK WHEN HER MOVES ARE TRYING TO MAKE HER ONE

steel kelp
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Why acerola

crystal quartz
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I SHOULDNT HAVE LEVELED HER

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Don’t use Acerola’s Trainer Move

steel kelp
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Tm is looking to get her killed

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Sandstorm and Astonish are the 2 moves Acerola should be clicking

mellow linden
silver dirge
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Let's be a little civil, the caps aren't going to help you clear it any faster SeleneLul Acerola is there to disable Flint's sun, which is close to mandatory

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She's not your damage dealer

mellow linden
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Plus she can flinch

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Which buys you more turns

steel kelp
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Wait who’s doing damage

silver dirge
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I hope you're not using Acerola as both the tank & the damage dealer, when she does neither effectively

lunar meadow
old orchid
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Flint hits hard even in hard mode tho, so using a better tank is better

lunar meadow
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Bring Palossand to remove sun and buff, then spam flinch.

Bring someone else as your main damage. Preferably someone who benefits from sand, because it's there

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And use a tank as the third

crystal quartz
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Sycamore sucks

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He takes too much damage

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And then arcanine also burns him

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So he cant heal anything

lunar meadow
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Camerupt/Palossand combo with a tank should be easy.

Zamazenta and Torterra are on your pics

old orchid
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you bring a spdef tank to a physical stage, what do you expect

crystal quartz
lunar meadow
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Bring Torterra to Debuff enemy attack and buff ally defense.
She can cleanse a burn, too

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Almost all Supports are tanks

lunar meadow
steel kelp
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Hold on

crystal quartz
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How did you know I had torterra?

steel kelp
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Free and gen pool

lunar meadow
steel kelp
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Also that

crystal quartz
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Wait torterra would take super effective damage

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It would die instantly

old orchid
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Torterra's weakness is Bug

mellow linden
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Sync Pairs only have one type weakness

lunar meadow
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Just like the enemy units only have one weakness

steel kelp
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Imagine the mainline games don’t exist

lunar meadow
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||I think I'm in pain||

steel kelp
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Don’t apply that stuff here

crystal quartz
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Its not letting me hit anything

north crown
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What’s up?

crystal quartz
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The tap on something sound effect is playing

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But its not progressing to a different menu

silver dirge
lunar meadow
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||And surely Chesnaught has low special attack. There's no way it would have more special attack than attack.||

steel kelp
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||wdym pikachu is one of the best and worst units in the game||

crystal quartz
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TORTERRA SUCKS

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SO DOES ACEROLA

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WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GET SPEED BUFfs

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I CAN BARELY DOUBLE QUEUE

steel kelp
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You shouldn’t be having gauge issues

north crown
silver dirge
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What's the 3rd member on that team?

crystal quartz
mellow linden
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Speed buffs aren’t necessarily required to be able to triple queue

lunar meadow
mellow linden
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Please calm down

silver dirge
crystal quartz
north crown
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Ok how the hell are you raging in CSHM?

silver dirge
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Gordie? You have no DPS on that team

steel kelp
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Wait this is hard

crystal quartz
crystal quartz
lunar meadow
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Gordie ☠️
For damage?

steel kelp
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Gordie is fake

crystal quartz
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I HAVE NO OTHER ROCK UNITS

silver dirge
north crown
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Bro I meme with Acerola all the time

mellow linden
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Gordie has low damage outside of Sync and Max Move

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Just off-type if necessary

lunar meadow
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Gordie is not for damage.
Gordie is for buffing fire types with rebuff and max sun

crystal quartz
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What other nuke do I use?

silver dirge
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What other rock types do you have?

crystal quartz
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Who only has rock tomb

silver dirge
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Nessa is a water type

crystal quartz
steel kelp
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Yes you do

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There’s no way you don’t

mellow linden
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Don’t ignore your 3- and 4-stars, they generally range from decent to amazing

crystal quartz
steel kelp
north crown
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@crystal quartz If you’re gonna whine about your roster, could you at least complete the sync pair tracker so you can prove how “crap” your roster is?

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Also can someone catch me up to speed on Inky’s CSHM progress? Type Medal Progress too?

crystal quartz
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I cant even trade for any 3* unlock potential tickets to upgrade brock

crystal quartz
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I just need to beat the stupid thing

lunar meadow
north crown
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But you should focus on the medal, as completing it gives you access to more rewards.

north crown
lunar meadow
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Thanks to the 4* BP units and the free legendary events, the medal is easy to aim for

crystal quartz
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BROCK DOES EVEN LESS DAMAGE THAN GORDIE

mellow linden
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Please calm down

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You can give Roark a try. If you can spare the Sync Orbs grab some of his Standfast tiles from his Sync Grid

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Be warned that you’ll want more healing on the team if you can’t get his Standfast tiles

plush tangle
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(even with standfast you still need a lot of healing, assuming you don't OS yourself SeleneLul)

sinful garden
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also reminder that offtyping is always an option

low linden
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Making my fall roxanne into 3/5 ex role was worth it the nuke is truly insane on her JasmineRelax

keen jasper
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Boy, Lugia's Multiscale Healthy Benefits ability really helped me against Lucian

lunar meadow
crystal quartz
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I beat lucian

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And wasted a bunch of sync orbs

low linden
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Just my opinion, think she's gonna stay relevant and harder to powercreep than both the Giovanni and maxie

keen jasper
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Giovanni is my go-to ground damage dealer

low linden
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I used to do double Giovanni but eh they are so gauge hungry I'm forced to use ingo

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Nuking is more fun for my ground team now TabithaHehe

keen jasper
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Giovanni still claps 4k easily even without half sync params

lunar meadow
keen jasper
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Would you believe if I said I used the -1 and -2 sync CD parameters on 3 of the E4?

low linden
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Why not

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I mean csmm is not that hard of a content when u have a wide pool of sync pairs and know what u are doing

keen jasper
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Especially when trying to do 20k pts. CSMM?

low linden
left storm
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Funny birb

keen jasper
crystal quartz
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I beat flint

low linden
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There are always people trying to do 20k csmm for their own self imposed challenge

crystal quartz
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How do I beat cynthia if I already used 2 of my aces?

low linden
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And those that use eggmon and such

left storm
lunar meadow
mellow linden
crystal quartz
low linden
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The hardest content left are truly those that try to get into top 100 of LG and high score imo but even those are also self imposed challenge

mellow linden
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Cyrus

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Is Palkia

crystal quartz
left storm
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LG hiking is more whaling/being a day one player privilege over trying a challenge

steel kelp
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Swipe your card faster

left storm
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Because there's only enough solos you can do unless you scout for 4/5 units in the game

keen jasper
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:cchero:

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Wish I had Nitro

low linden
left storm
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That said there's no real challenge aside UBs in this game and I'm fine with it

steel kelp
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Free nitro doko

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Even then UB are still just a roster check

low linden
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Let it stay the way it is game shouldnt be hard

left storm
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Idk how can people grind to 150+

steel kelp
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They’re that bored

low linden
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Or just very passionate people

keen jasper
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What's the highest total points ever recorded in CSMM? So far, I've only seen 25k pts.

rotund lagoon
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I love how everyone is complaining about trying to beat Bertha 3k, meanwhile I’m just sticking to 2.5k per usual SerenaSip

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Because I legitimately do not care about getting to 3k nor the rewards

steel kelp
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Literally me

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Everyone here is complaining about 3k ever since they upped it

mellow linden
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I just rocked up to her on Round 3 with Steven and beat her in 2 attempts

low linden
#

It's 15 more spirits and 10 more power up ticket

#

So your choice really it's not that big

keen jasper
#

I always do 20k pts. now

mellow linden
#

1 if you only count the one after I lowered the bulk a bit

steel kelp
#

Next week should be fun

crystal quartz
#

Cynthia was so pathetic

#

She was easier than flint

steel kelp
#

I finally remember to use SS hilbert as something other than bug

crystal quartz
#

Eirika and silver shredder through her hp

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I didnt even need to use cyrus like the other guy suggested

low linden
#

Oh I get to use akari next week

mellow linden
#

Congrats, next week you can work on finishing the type medal to unlock Master Mode

rotund lagoon
steel kelp
#

Should I bring nc rosa for the extra funny

keen jasper
#

I get to use SS Roxie next week

steel kelp
#

SS n SS hilbert and her?

crystal quartz
steel kelp
#

Do you ever use anything other than caps

mellow linden
#

Please calm down

crystal quartz
rotund lagoon
#

You’ve been asked multiple times to calm down. Please stop.

steel kelp
mellow linden
#

You likely won’t need any heavy hitters from a lot of the remaining types, in many cases you can roll with a competent duo and use the 3rd slot as filler for medal purposes

crystal quartz
mellow linden
#

As for Poison, in the absolute worst case scenario Poison stall is nearly guaranteed to use at least 1 Poison type

mellow linden
crystal quartz
crystal quartz
crystal quartz
mellow linden
#

Given that next week has several fights that are practically free (Fire, Psychic, and likely Poison will all be easy to handle with accessible pairs) you should be better off next week than you were this week

steel kelp
#

Every type next week is free

lunar meadow
#

What makes dark free?

#

I can only think of BP Umbreon and A-Persian

silver dirge
#

Several gen pool options I guess

#

Karen, MR, Sydney

crystal quartz
keen jasper
#

If you also played during the Nov. 2023 egg Eevee event, you might also get an eggmon Umbreon

lunar meadow
#

Ya, but this guy seems suuuuper new. I'm not sure how much he has for Gen Pool

silver dirge
#

Mhm

crystal quartz
silver dirge
#

Silver & Giovanni

mellow linden
#

Giovanni shreds Psychic weak stages

crystal quartz
silver dirge
mellow linden
#

Gordie can set Sun

steel kelp
#

No you don’t

silver dirge
#

Don't you have Blaine?

crystal quartz
#

And I like to save eirika because shes sometimes good at unexpected solutions

mellow linden
#

In the absolute worst case scenario

cinder summitBOT
silver dirge
#

Him

crystal quartz
crystal quartz
mellow linden
#

Gordie will be a huge boost for any Fire damage-dealer

steel kelp
#

There’s no way you don’t have Blaine too

crystal quartz
#

Oh no not blaine

crystal quartz
mellow linden
#

And if you don’t have Rock on the medal he fills that too

silver dirge
#

Gordie is superior for the role of sun setting to Blaine, yeah. The rebuffs are a great add-on

crystal quartz
#

Whats a rebuff?

keen jasper
silver dirge
#

The context is hard mode so once should be plenty SeleneLul

#

Silver can refresh

keen jasper
mellow linden
#

The Bug type can be on another team

crystal quartz
#

But Faulkner is actually really good and I want to save him

crystal quartz
steel kelp
#

Wait

#

You’re doing overheat?

mellow linden
#

Falkner can buff both offenses

#

So it wouldn’t matter which one

steel kelp
#

Well I know that but do they have dauntless if they are doing it

mellow linden
#

Idk

#

Worst case scenario with Falkner they can use Overheat early on and switch to Sacred Fire later. It’s just Hard Mode

crystal quartz
#

But what if I need to use blue again

#

Blue is also very good and faulkner was good support

mellow linden
#

There’s other options for a Sp. Atk. Support out there

#

It’s not exclusively Falkner

#

Anyway, it’s a full week until CS reset, so I’d recommend taking that week to look over your roster and really get to know all your Sync Pairs

#

That way you can be better prepared when the time comes to actually take it on

north crown
crystal quartz
crystal quartz
#

+fighting type

north crown
#

Alrighty

north crown
# crystal quartz

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lunar meadow
crystal quartz
#

Oh yeah I also have no good water types besides nessa

#

Who I have no good support for

rotund lagoon
#

Hop in shambles

mellow linden
#

Any Attack + crit Support works for Nessa

#

Like, literally any of them

rotund lagoon
#

Also Cyrus Hydro Pump DPS is good

north crown
#

Maylene:

mellow linden
#

Did I stutter

north crown
#

I don’t expect you to MalvaReckless

#

Quick q: Can poison weak Cynthia be poison stalled?

rotund lagoon
#

They’re the poison stalling expert that I know of, I’ll see if they can answer that

junior crown
#

for 12.5k everyone can be stalled

#

but 15k is harder, I just did some weaks of full 15k poison stall and stopped

north crown
#

Then hard mode shouldn’t be a problem - good.

turbid geyser
#

don't you guys love getting one shot by flare blitz flint turn one 🙃

junior crown
#

shouldn't be

north crown
#

Flinch with R3 parameter ez

lunar meadow
versed meteor
#

With holi jasmine who needs to remove sun

rich needle
#

Clair is good trust

verbal karma
#

welp, I have beaten R2 Bertha...only to now have trouble with R3 Lucian

#

maybe something is wrong with my team? it consists out of SS Elesa, Falkner and Darach

north crown
verbal karma
#

Sync Accel

#

plus paralysis

north crown
#

Bro that’s stupid

lunar meadow
#

+lucian

steel kelp
#

They always try to shove her in

sharp willow
#

why exactly is paralysis something you want there

lunar meadow
#

Does Flying-weak Lucian have sentry entry?

sharp willow
#

no

verbal karma
steel kelp
#

Cleared it easy with palesa

rotund lagoon
lunar meadow
sharp willow
#

he's the only lucian stage without wise entry

north crown
sharp willow
#

everything he has is related to syncing

lunar meadow
#

I know his ghost and bug ones were risky

sharp willow
#

+2 attack, free move next and guaranteed crit next on sync

silver dirge
steel kelp
#

See that would require work

silver dirge
#

E.g. if you see "Sunburst" and "Charging Sun 5" that should scream at you to change the weather

steel kelp
#

why do that when someone will just tell me what to do

lunar meadow
silver dirge
sharp willow
#

the game says to paralyse bc it wants you to use NY Lance apparently

#

still like

#

just dont bother

lunar meadow
#

What if we have Gyarados...?

north crown
#

Me about to spoon feed InkyTrain

manic kiln
paper summit
#

that really doesn't help anybody you know?

#

if anything it makes everyone else's life miserable WEEZing

silver dirge
#

Just causes problems down the line tbh

lunar meadow
steel kelp
#

It’s a punishable offense

#

They had a good run

manic kiln
silver dirge
#

Bruh moment

steel kelp
#

Bruh what

#

Ani skyla is free

sharp willow
#

i dont know why im surprised.

steel kelp
#

I used her and palesa flying weak doesn’t stand a chance

manic kiln
#

Weird team synergy, just pick your strongest limited unit/gen pool, pick support who can fully buff that dps, pick wtz or debuff unit. If your support is strong run dual dps, if you take too much dmg use 2 supports. Stop making weird comp just to fit round parameter and all the suggested crap

silver dirge
#

We all sound like broken records fr

verbal karma
#

you're telling me the game itself is stupid?

silver dirge
#

And we've told you not to heed those so obsessively

manic kiln
#

The game also give us auto option

silver dirge
#

Several times

rotund lagoon
#

We said a long time ago, the in-game suggestions are not supposed to be taken seriously.

verbal karma
#

it's why I have chosen the round order the way I did

silver dirge
#

Right, and what part of it made you think Paralysis was necessary for this stage?

verbal karma
#

the game itself

steel kelp
#

You can’t be serious

rotund lagoon
#

That’s just contradictory.

verbal karma
silver dirge
#

The stages are designed with pairs in mind

steel kelp
#

Why would you fully trust dena

#

And the stages are also outdated

silver dirge
#

It's suggesting paralysis because they have less mitigation to it. Which achieves absolutely nothing

steel kelp
#

Especially the pairs they suggest

verbal karma
#

okay, lemme take a second look at Lucian then

#

maybe then I can see what I can do better

north crown
rich needle
#

I mean I don’t exactly think it’s a demerit to paralyze them

rotund lagoon
#

Make a flying team like normal, think it like that.

silver dirge
steel kelp
rotund lagoon
#

Especially the in-game tips recommend mostly monotype teams with little to no synergy.

verbal karma
#

hmm...okay, I checked Lucian in greater detail, and...hmm...well, I don't see anything that would hinder the current team...but I also don't see anything the current team can benefit from

silver dirge
#

We're talking about tips on the same game that gives us the highly effective optimise option

rotund lagoon
sharp willow
#

the thing hindering the current team is that you're using a character that basically does nothing for the team

steel kelp
#

Well that’s any gacha game with an auto/optimize button

verbal karma
#

the main problem right now is that Darach alone doesn't do enough damage, so...I might need a second damage dealer

rotund lagoon
#

If Lucian has no rules, just pit your biggest hitters against him.

steel kelp
#

Bigger number means better unit

paper summit
#

what even is the reason you come here asking for help all the time when you don't learn and won't listen to people's advice? this fixation on random crap instead of trusting the people that are trying to help you is just a massive waste of time

verbal karma
#

my apologies

steel kelp
#

Why do we bother trying

silver dirge
#

Don't tell me it's because infinite field isn't available

verbal karma
rich needle
#

Blue and pidgeot is my go to

formal vigil
#

why not use blue and anni skyla with a special support

rich needle
#

Because I don’t like using weethan

#

Ssethan

verbal karma
rotund lagoon
lunar meadow
rich needle
#

So trueuurrueuuruee

verbal karma
#

that's literally it

sharp willow
#

i also tend to use base Blue these days

#

i just like him

silver dirge
#

Alright, so you know what to try now

rich needle
#

Wait when did they do that?

verbal karma
#

yup

rich needle
#

The Giovanni thing

#

I wanna see

verbal karma
#

thanks for the suggestion, Arch

rich needle
sharp willow
#

uh

silver dirge
#

Credit to Lost, he brought it up. I had no idea you had Skyla SeleneLul

verbal karma
#

ah

#

in that case, thanks to you as well, Lost

rotund lagoon
steel kelp
#

Oh mafia leader

verbal karma
#

also, I'll try to listen to you guys more often from now on

rotund lagoon
#

That would help a lot.

silver dirge
#

That would be well welcomed & appreciated

sharp willow
#

it was both Ground weak Aaron and Poison weak Cynthia apparently

lunar meadow
north crown
#

Pulls on limited zone unit.
Does not use said limited zone unit on a CS stage:

lunar meadow
#

@north crown
Don't talk about me like that!
||I still use Garchomp instead of all the better ground types I have lol||

silver dirge
steel kelp
#

Well cynthia isn’t bad

sharp willow
#

i kinda imagine they didnt notice

steel kelp
#

She’s like kris and blue now

silver dirge
#

Mm true

sharp willow
#

i mean, most people dont actually look at the tips to start

#

i sure dont at least

rotund lagoon
#

I just look at the team comp tips to see how silly they are lmao

steel kelp
#

I’ll take monotype team with no synergy for 500 please

silver dirge
#

I clicked on the tips once and it took too long to load so I never looked back

lunar meadow
sharp willow
#

ill take recommending drake on dragon weak everything myself

plush tangle
#

Today I used Kukui as my nuke on Flint
He do be dealing damage damn

rich needle
#

But every now and then I try to remember I pulled maxie and ssgio for a reason

steel kelp
north crown
#

Honestly though, Cynthia is goated, especially if she's 4+/5

steel kelp
#

Waiting for the next strike candy to get her 5/5

rich needle
#

Does she get anything particularly powerful at 4 and 5

silver dirge
#

Sand extension & Dust Kicker iirc?

north crown
#

dust kicker, sand sync, and sand alert

sharp willow
#

dust kicker and sand alert are the big ones

plush tangle
#

only dust kicker unit in the whole game

steel kelp
#

Dust kicker is very pog

sharp willow
#

she also gets AOE Def Drops on sync and Slash CS9 but

#

those are less of a deal

rich needle
#

Sand alert oooooh

silver dirge
#

Slash DPS my beloved

rich needle
#

I do love me some extension

sharp willow
#

honestly though, most of the time you've doing completely fine with 3/5

steel kelp
#

^

north crown
#

^

rich needle
#

I mean ik that

silver dirge
#

Yeah, she got the PoMa day + expansion treatment

sharp willow
#

i've been using her for ground weak there for just under a year now and she'll clear without too much issue

steel kelp
#

It’s better than what some characters got

rich needle
#

I’ve been Excalibur Courtney and Cynthia for so long

silver dirge
#

Iris in shambles

formal vigil
#

same

sharp willow
#

hopefully iris gets a good 3/5 expansion

#

her and Steven

steel kelp
#

It’s fine ciris is saved by nc nate BlueYea

lunar meadow
rich needle
#

I want all the old units to get 3/5s already

#

Cmon Dena

#

Fasterrrr

sharp willow
#

nah we gotta suffer

steel kelp
#

No

#

Suffer with only 12 expansions a year

#

And 12 ex

plush tangle
#

in theory the longer you wait the better the expansion

north crown
steel kelp
#

That’s mad cope

rich needle
#

Steven

plush tangle
#

in theory

formal vigil
#

tell that steven or iris lol

rich needle
#

I don’t think it matters at this point

#

So feck it

sharp willow
#

it's a theory

plush tangle
#

all i want is critical infliction on serena Hopium

sharp willow
#

but yeah, history contradicts it

north crown
#

dena could just add rebuff shenanigans and call it a day

steel kelp
#

Serena can suffer

sharp willow
rich needle
#

That’s wild

plush tangle
north crown
#

ft2 just to spite LG players' efforts LucianScheme

lunar meadow
steel kelp
#

Give iris triple drop

rich needle
#

I want ssleaf to get an expansion, not because she needs it but because Dena has a habit of rubbing the salt in the wound for 3/5 powerboost ss

steel kelp
#

Or defense crush

rich needle
#

After hs

steel kelp
#

Didn’t she already get one

sharp willow
#

she got a 5/5

#

but no 3/5

rich needle
#

Ye

lunar meadow
rich needle
#

Give 3/5

sharp willow
#

honestly

#

just give her TM stat buffs for her 3/5 expansion SabrinaPray

rich needle
#

3/5s are so impactful in fixing a unit problems

#

Yeahahhh

rich needle
#

We’ve discussed that

sharp willow
#

a few times already

plush tangle
#

honing hit 1

#

take it or leave it

lunar meadow
#

Most 3/5 grid upgrades are to increase self buffing, or add a sync multiplier

sharp willow
#

personally, im hoping for self buffing

rich needle
#

What’s honing hit

sharp willow
#

bc in terms of self buffing she has no self buffing

plush tangle
#

+2 atk +1 crit when you use any move

lunar meadow
#

Ya, Hydreigon needs self buffing but already has good sync

rich needle
#

I mean if ssleaf gets another power play like

#

I’d take that

#

Hehe

plush tangle
#

but 1 is only 20% to activate lol

north crown
#

but tbf honing hit would synergize with CIris (Alt) so well

sharp willow
#

yeah SS Diantha has Honing Hit 9 i think

rich needle
#

So does

plush tangle
#

nemona too

rich needle
#

Nemona

sharp willow
#

oh neat

#

i have not looked at nemona's kit at all

rich needle
steel kelp
#

She exists

lunar meadow
#

What is Honing Hit?

It is accuracy buff when hitting?

rich needle
#

Ciris and ssleaf are both pretty big beneficiaries of honing hit

lunar meadow
#

Or is that what Clawitzer has for crit buffs?

rich needle
#

Tho ssleaf would like spatk too

sharp willow
#

+2 attack +1 crit when a move is used

#

it does not care what type of move

lunar meadow
north crown
#

1/5 Nemona's a really good utiility pair for LG tho. If you every need to ease up on a clear, just slap her in.

sharp willow
#

yes

rich needle
#

Everyone sleep on nemona madge

steel kelp
#

SS leaf and mix red trust

sharp willow
#

oh Honing Hit 9 is one of CIris's 5/5 tiles

#

TIL

steel kelp
#

Red just terrain bot

rich needle
#

Ew

#

5/5

plush tangle
#

wait really

sharp willow
#

according to pomatools

lunar meadow
#

Pokemon MSG players looking at PoMa:
Why do you have swords dance and focus energy attached to Diamond Storm...?

plush tangle
#

TRAINER MOVE honing hit WEEZing

#

not generic honing hit

rich needle
#

That’s

sharp willow
#

oh gross

rich needle
#

Depressing

#

On so many levels

#

Like genuinely why

sharp willow
#

TM Honing Hit and Soften Up

plush tangle
sharp willow
#

wow

rich needle
#

Your making her take sharp entry and honing hit or something

north crown
#

at least you only have to proc mpr once CynthiaSmug

rich needle
sharp willow
#

that is bad

steel kelp
#

+4 atk +2 crit

#

It’s good trust

plush tangle
#

at this point just run tm mpr and get it twice

north crown
#

sharp entry 1 on 3/5 expansion trust.

rich needle
#

Ew

versed meteor
#

Tf is up with lucian does he have 300k hp, 22k sync does not even do 1/4

plush tangle
#

he has the highest base hp of all cs SeleneLul

#

like, all region all stages

formal vigil
#

28k base hp which is normal bloated hp

mellow linden
#

Lucian is very bulky this week, so depending on your parameters he may have a massive amount of HP

sharp willow
#

~200k with full HP and full strength parameters from what i can see

versed meteor
#

Am running out of my good supports WulfricKEKW

sharp willow
#

so yeah, probably dont choose all of that

verbal karma
#

...wait

#

would it actually be a good idea to have both Anni Skyla and Darach? RosaThink

#

after all, Anni Skyla is special while Darach is physical

sharp willow
#

i would recommend someone other than Darach

verbal karma
#

hmm...

manic kiln
#

If you’re not comfortable running mix parameter then don’t

rotund lagoon
#

I would personally do Blue tbh

formal vigil
#

if your not nuking with skyla shouldn't matter

plush tangle
#

using both physical and special means losing 100 points

versed meteor
#

What is the use of evasion in a game where the opponent's use cheats to hit all their moves

plush tangle
#

just reset more

sharp willow
#

Blue is good but he needs first sync to actually do DPS, Darach just kinda doesnt want to do DPS since he doesn't have great standfast levels

verbal karma
#

hmm...well, Darach's defog is useful, but...is it useful enough to keep him?

formal vigil
#

no just use blue

rotund lagoon
verbal karma
#

because I did pick Critical-Hit Defense specifically because of Darach's Defog

#

meaning that if I were to remove Darach, I'd have to replace it with...less free parameters

rotund lagoon
#

How many points is this?

sharp willow
#

150

verbal karma
#

yup

rotund lagoon
#

Oh no I mean are you doing 2.5k, 3k?

verbal karma
#

3k

rotund lagoon
#

I’m sure you’ll find something to replace, I almost never use Crit shield anyway

sharp willow
#

you're getting 100 back from that bc you can go with a special damage dealer instead of darach and get the physical damage reduction passive

#

so its an extra 50 points, not really a huge ask

versed meteor
#

Power on hit one and two, the problem? You actually have to hitWEEZing

#

Lucian missed so much he decided to not attack

verbal karma
#

...okay, I think I did a bad job at building my team

#

right now, my R3 Lucian team is Sycamore/Anni Skyla/Blue

#

...any ideas what I am doing wrong here?

manic kiln
#

Sycamore and blue fighting for sync

verbal karma
#

it's Sycamore who does the first sync

#

and Anni Skyla who does the second sync

#

I assume I should replace Blue then? and if yes, then with whom?

north crown
#

so u don't let Blue mega?

steel kelp
#

Why is anni skyla taking blue sync

verbal karma
#

because Anni Skyla is EX'd

#

while Blue isn't

rotund lagoon
#

Blue still wants first sync whether he’s EX’d or not

#

Because it unlocks his big DPS move

steel kelp
#

His only dps move

verbal karma
#

so wait, when would Sycamore EX then?

north crown
#

replace himm

rotund lagoon
#

He shouldn’t be there.

steel kelp
#

That’s the neat part he doesn’t

verbal karma
#

hold on, trying to find a Sp. Atk buffer who could replace Sycamore

rotund lagoon
#

Sp Atk and at least one Crit

verbal karma
#

oh, don't worry, Anni Skyla has Team Sharp Entry

#

so she doesn't need a Crit buffer

rotund lagoon
#

I forgor C_SkullDM

#

Wait does that mean yours is 3/5?

verbal karma
#

no, she already has it at 2/5

rotund lagoon
#

Ah

manic kiln
#

You can keep falkner

verbal karma
#

I already long replaced Falkner with someone else

#

I...don't really like using Falkner as the sole support

#

since he sucks at tanking

#

...then again, my current Sycamore replacement kinda sucks at tanking, too

rich needle
#

Darach is ass

#

I am crying

verbal karma
#

oh, I am no longer using Darach

rich needle
#

I’m talking for my own clear

verbal karma
#

oh

halcyon sail
#

2 supports?

rich needle
#

Not 3/5 he kills himself so fast , and idk if taking stand fast is something he even wants

manic kiln
#

That team will tank by taking advantage of flinch continuously DawnNom one of my fav to use, 2 skyla and falkner, can presync and postsync

lunar meadow
# rich needle Darach is ass

He got so mad at everyone saying that, that he caught an articuno and decided to start pissing off the player base in Ultimate Battles.

manic kiln
#

But if you want to use something else you can try

verbal karma
#

right now, I am trying my luck with Elio/Anni Skyla/Blue, but

#

Elio dies in only two hits

rich needle
#

I’m allowed to be pissed at him

rotund lagoon
#

Did you quit when Elio went down or did you wait until the end?

sharp willow
#

darach just keeps his bird

rich needle
#

His bird gets an upgrade

verbal karma
#

Elio is my only support

lunar meadow
verbal karma
#

he died before I could even do my first sync

rich needle
#

I thorton

lunar meadow
#

Well Darach UB sucks.
Hated it.

rich needle
#

I think his inspires more ire despite being easier technically

verbal karma
#

me when I can't beat ANY of the UBs

rotund lagoon
mellow linden
lunar meadow
verbal karma
#

...ah, shoot, I was trying to save SS Brendan for a better round, tho

rich needle
#

I think it’s easier cuz of those options s

mellow linden
#

SC Jasmine probably works too if Blue is gridded with Ramp Up

sharp willow
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which is the awkward part

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mellow linden
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Roxanne is a Sp. Atk. buffer tho?

rotund lagoon
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……..Roxanne is the buffer.

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mellow linden
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Roxanne + Probopass

rotund lagoon
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Base Roxanne……

rich needle
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Roxanne press tm

mellow linden
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Fall Roxanne isn't even a Support

rich needle
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Happiness ensured

sharp willow
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oh yeah, Base Roxanne does buff Sp. Atk, I forgot

rotund lagoon
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Why would I suggest Fall Roxanne? SXFYorConfused

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...too bad I have already used her

steel kelp
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Where

mellow linden
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steel kelp
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Sc jasmine does just click tm and win

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but SC Jasmine buffs Sp. Def?

mellow linden
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Read her passives

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oh yeah, I forgot

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she has Group Morale Boost

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hmm...kinda slow buffing tbh...

mellow linden
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Fast enough if Blue is gridded with Ramp Up

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Like I said initially

sharp willow
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she finishes things off and thats good enough

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lemme check if he is

rotund lagoon
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I also never asked, is your Blue gridded?

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my Blue is gridded, yes

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...although he doesn't have Ramp Up

rotund lagoon
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May I suggest