Champion Stadium

[manic mica]

And also somehow can deal enough dmg

Or AoE

Lucian is a prime example of CS being a bit much sometimes

[manic kiln]

also kinda hate how old units have high stats but no multiplier at all

[manic mica]

Also Ice CS is in the same thing

Yeah I think it's SS N and Hala time

[mellow linden]

Ice weak Bertha gets neutered if you replace Sandstorm

[manic mica]

I made Hilbert 3/5 for this stupid stage

And idk if I can get candies if I get an ice unit ever

Like Silvee

[manic mica]

Oh so that's the gimmick

It seemed obvious but after my 20th try on Lucian, yeah I gave up oj CS a bit

Even if the other stages are debatebly very easy

[mellow linden]

Can’t say I recommend spending 2 candies for a single stage when alternative clear options exist

[manic kiln]

well at least you can still use him for future contents, you'll never know, maybe an ebe or ub, or bug high score

but yeah spending candies just to clear 1 stage is

[manic mica]

I also did it as a fail safe for other bug stages

In the future

[autumn jay]

Do I have enough muscle to beat the special champion stadium?

[wide adder]

do we have any Wise X2/X3 Flying stages yet in any of the CS regions? I forget... Trying to think about how much value Gloralt might have in a flying CS stage, when I already have 3/5 SS Ethan

[mellow linden]

Flying weak Koga had Wise Entry x2 before it was cool

So I guess that

[wide adder]

Interesting. Good to know.
I assume Gloralt needs some form of sync accel on the team for the max move to not throw off sync countdown btw? Don't see max countdown anywhere in her kit unless I missed something. Only accel I see is bounce's.

[eternal matrix]

You’d have to quadqueue off of the max move or just make it up with flying mode having the sync countdown reduction stuff on bounce

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that

[eternal matrix]

Other than that it’s just external ways

[blazing kindle]

Hi guys can anyone guide me on how to get decent ish rewards as a newerish player

Want to take advantage of atleast some rewards but idk what parameters to choose

[mellow linden]

If you’re just starting out on Master Mode I’d recommend starting with 850-1500 points per stage to get used to how Master Mode works. We have example parameter sets in the pins

[blazing kindle]

Wheres the pin if you dont mind

Yeah first time trying this out

[mellow linden]

Channel Settings -> Pinned Messages if you’re on the new Discord UI

[old orchid]

You have a couple of good pairs for 850 CSMM

For now, try to beat 850 pts first, so you can get more familiar with higher pts

850 pts has little to no difference to 0 pts

[autumn jay]

Awesome! Any reccomendations for team compositions? I know what worked in the past but otherwise I just mostly use starter kanto trio lol

[blazing kindle]

Im literally stupid at this game lol

[old orchid]

Kris, SS Grimsley, Barry, Cyrus and Cynthia are my recommendations for 5 stages

You should build a team around each of them, then check the parameters presets pinned here, starting from 850 pts

[wide adder]

oh, gloralts max move is quadable? i assumed not b/c of pasio ace passive
thought i heard something about max move and passives conflicting with quad... or was that just with other max moves and sync being right after... i forget lmao

[old orchid]

You cant quad queue with max moves unless you queue it as the first ever action and 2 other moves

[wide adder]

Huh. So they're only quadable off of on turn 1 unlike syncs?

or did I misunderstand the way you worded it?

just making sure i understand; pardon my autism if i did misinterpret the wording yes, i am autistic, if i havent mentioned that around here before.

[keen jasper]

Yeah, max moves can be quadqueued if you use it as the 1st action of your turn

[wide adder]

ok, so as long as i treat a max move like a sync, theyre quadable from when syncs would be then. thanks

[keen jasper]

You can multi-queue max moves assuming there's no passive triggering

[wide adder]

ah, so thats the part i was thinking of with max move passives. thanks again!

[dark osprey]

Also if by chance using him with an adrenaline EX support that can quad queue, then it wouldn't matter if you don't quad queue with the max move

[wide adder]

i forget, where do i find the stat numbers for a specific Strength for CS?

[tired sleet]

Go to menu>champion stadium in pomatools

Then click the stage and input the proper parameters
(And then multiply that number the Wise/Sentry Entry value, if there is one)

[nocturne pawn]

idk if im bad but i literally dont know how to manage gauge with ss hilbert and alder with nc blue

like its not possible for me to queue techno blast and hyper veam

[silver dirge]

I run SS Morty with them and Hilbert still eats all the gauges that sounds pretty plausible

Might need to alternate between metal sound

[wide adder]

thats the neat part.
from my expeience? you dont (unless running faster gauge stage effect)

[tulip python]

Man flint is still walling me, what are the parameters ya’ll are using

[wide adder]

still the params i had from kanto, for most of my clears.

[silver dirge]

Can you send your in-game parameters?

[wide adder]

bump

[silver dirge]

And team

If you're struggling already don't use these lots of free points to pick up still & way too much HP + Strength stacked

[wide adder]

yeah, haha, especially the HP

the HP is the big make/break for some teams, if im using a weaker team i tend to have to toss that out for the teambuilding ones

[silver dirge]

If it works, it works

[wide adder]

yeah, tbf i have like 42 limited gacha units so its usually not long for me to find a suitable team

[silver dirge]

Yeah the premium units don't usually need much thought when it comes to parameters

[paper summit]

you say that but certain people struggling with rats says otherwise

don't underestimate the mistakes some people can pull off

[silver dirge]

okay true

Can't assume common sense is common

[paper summit]

honestly they deserve to have their accounts taken away ngl

[nocturne pawn]

yeah thankfully i have charging infliction 2 but it still annoys me

maybe ill just use sst red against lucian

fucking hate this stage

[paper summit]

valid tbf

[nocturne pawn]

think the last time i had to off type with ss erika and ss acerola

and it was still horrible

[wide adder]

exactly what i did this week.

[silver dirge]

Don't several of Lucian's stages have the entry x2 gimmicks? He really out here being annoying for no reason

[wide adder]

yeah, wise x2

[nocturne pawn]

3/4

[paper summit]

no reason to go through unnecessary hoops and struggles when you have the pairs to clear one way or another

[nocturne pawn]

and flying has like 40k hp

[wide adder]

so i just threw sstred and ncblue in and saw how they did, ended up going postsync cause 1/5 red but still cleared like a charm lol

[nocturne pawn]

so uh

i guess sst red takes precedence over ss hau

lol

[paper summit]

Dark and Bug have Wise Entry x2, and Ghost has Sentry Entry x2, man loves to gatekeep you from using a lot of pairs

[nocturne pawn]

tbh

[silver dirge]

Ah yes

[nocturne pawn]

ghost sentry entry is whatever

wise entry x2 is horrid

[wide adder]

yay reason to use furbert!

[nocturne pawn]

mfw absol copium

[keen jasper]

I thought ghost-weak Lucian is Wise Entry x2?

[nocturne pawn]

actually no that makes more sense

im pretty sure it is

[silver dirge]

I think it's Wise yeah

[nocturne pawn]

lemme check

[paper summit]

ohh, yeah, you are right

[keen jasper]

Meant for SSR Cynthia

[paper summit]

nvm, I was thinking about dark weak Phoebe for some reason

Lucian is anti special all around except for flying

[nocturne pawn]

it is wise

and satisfied snarl

[wide adder]

its a bit goofy that hes wise x2 when his unit is anti-physical damage instead

[nocturne pawn]

yeah no bug weak is absolutely horrid

hyper voice hurts hard and psychic just bullies you

[keen jasper]

Honestly, NC Blue is an absolute godsend for bug-weak Lucian

Initial Guard and offensive debuffs

[nocturne pawn]

oh im still using my thorton grid

goofy ahh

[keen jasper]

I wonder, can I still 4k ghost-weak Lucian with special ghost damage dealers?

[swift swan]

if you have zone and rebuffs, maybe

[nocturne pawn]

i mean if u have zone doesnt that mean access to giratina nuke or is that not allowed

[swift swan]

depends on how much you want to restrict yourself ig

[nocturne pawn]

i assume he would just use spectrier in that case

but ssrc can def nuke

so i figured why not ask

[keen jasper]

Am gonna use E. Victor and OG Allister

[tulip python]

@silver dirge e you here are what I am using parameter wise

[swift swan]

drop the defense

and that's too much HP on top of strength, don't stack strength and HP together like that

I'd pick up attack 3 and 5, power on hit, and remove the HP. then try to presync

[tulip python]

Gotcha, I’ll try that tomorrow

[nocturne pawn]

ok

i actually really like how sst ss hau and nc blue plays

150s terrain and electrorepulsion is great

anyway its 2 am im gonna sleep

[north crown]

sleep is for the weak; gotta get on that PoMa grind,

[void estuary]

I'm trying to finish my cynthia team (she's 5/5) but doesn't have much support
Should I pull ingo excadrill from new years banner? Or are there better teams for garchomp nowadays?

[formal vigil]

You can just run her with bertha and sonia/hilbert so no need of ingo also probably better to ask in #poma-questions next time

[verbal karma]

Damn, is 1/5 Alder just...useless for regular CS now?

[full mesa]

Nope. He's fantastic. Lucian just has WEx2.

[manic kiln]

He’s not useless, but yeah wise entry this week

[full mesa]

Read the pins and your opponents skills before you start attacking. This isn't Kanto.

[verbal karma]

I was hoping I could use the R1 gimmick on Lucian tbh

The other 3 rounds are already occupied

[keen jasper]

That's why R4 Lucian is the best

Or R2

[keen jasper]

Damn, NC Leaf did over 148k damage even with max HP, defense and strength params

[hushed sorrel]

Didn’t you do a replay with like 380k or something

[keen jasper]

460k, and it's without strength params

[manic mica]

Hey y’all

Does poison stall work for Lucian?

Oh no nevermind

Ss leaf is weak to psychic

[old orchid]

You can use another pair like BP Erika or Koga

With strong defensive team Psychic weakness is not a big problem

[full anvil]

@quiet hatch
First Place: ss acerola
Second Place: ss elesa
Third Place: sst red

needs to change the weather

[old orchid]

Thats a bad team

[full anvil]

but that's what he's using though

[old orchid]

The team is still bad regardless

Here is a brief summary of NC Leaf's gimmicks: #poma-questions message

In case you havent read it yet

[full anvil]

NC blue, Ash and SSt red lol

[old orchid]

Replace either of Ash or Red with a weather changer and you are good

[full anvil]

change ash is better cause red opens the electric terrain

[verbal karma]

Damn, I already have R4 reserved for Psychic-weak Flint

[verbal karma]

Hmm...in that case, would R1 Bertha be preferable over R2?

Since R2 Bertha was my initial plan

[keen jasper]

I did Bertha on R3

[verbal karma]

Oh...I already have R3 reserved for Aaron, though

[keen jasper]

I did Flint on R2

[verbal karma]

Basically, R3 Aaron and R4 Flint need to stay

[keen jasper]

R1 Aaron for me because NC Leaf

And also Aaron is too easy

[verbal karma]

R3 Aaron for me because of SS Hilda tbh

R4 Flint because of SS Lana

[keen jasper]

SS Lana easily destroys Flint even in non-R4 params

Lucian will be the more wise choice for R4 because he has Wise Entry x2

Tell me, which damage dealer are you gonna use against him?

[verbal karma]

Against Lucian? I was gonna use Alder

But that obviously won't work, it seems

[silver dirge]

Indeed

You will need to bring Bugsy, Lunge Lusamine or Guzma. Easier than all 3 would be off-typing or poison stall

[steel kelp]

You said the bad word to trin

[manic kiln]

[silver dirge]

Am aware Not my problem

[steel kelp]

True

[verbal karma]

Should prolly mention

[steel kelp]

[verbal karma]

for Bertha, I was gonna use Ghetsis and Irida

So that could be an argument for R1 Bertha

[steel kelp]

Bertha is whatever

[silver dirge]

I mean the rest of us don't really dwell on the round params that long, we just go for it. But sure

[steel kelp]

None of them matter that much

[silver dirge]

Yep

[steel kelp]

The only fun one is perma field

[silver dirge]

If it could be important nov puts a note in the param list already

[halcyon sail]

Perma sandstorm Cynthia

[steel kelp]

I don’t even think I changed weather for that

[silver dirge]

I didn't either

[keen jasper]

And those 3 will have a massive boost

[silver dirge]

Ooh I should do First Impression shenanigans on R4

[keen jasper]

Possible

[silver dirge]

I've already done it but I can get bigger numbers R4

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/guzmán-guzma-pokémon-sun-moon-gif-24445161

[keen jasper]

No bug zone unit?

[old orchid]

Bug Zone units wont be much better than the current comp

Steven's SEUN is already an one time zone boost

[silver dirge]

Yah

I don't have one anyway

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah, forgot that Guzma needs to set up his buffs

[silver dirge]

We need a support with bug zone fr

[keen jasper]

What round is this? 2?

[silver dirge]

Lemi check

R2 yes

Oh sync buffs are more effective

[calm marsh]

[latent eagle]

Can someone help me w/ water CS? I’ve already beaten flint but I can’t do the others

[old orchid]

first, you should plan 1 - 2 dmg dealer for each stage out

how many rain setters do you have, counting eggmon?

[keen jasper]

The rest are easy except for Malva

[latent eagle]

4 but SS kris was already used so 3

[latent eagle]

Ig I also have Lyra but she doesn’t set up rain until sync sooo—

[nocturne pawn]

are u trying to exclusively on type

[latent eagle]

Just trying to beat it tbh

[delicate osprey]

How I can reset 😩

[old orchid]

Beat the champion and unlock master mode

[nocturne pawn]

well they dont have master mode unlocked

do you have hilda and hala 3/5

[delicate osprey]

No

[old orchid]

Show your units here by using sync pair tracker

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[hallow star]

Lucian was very difficult 💀

[nocturne pawn]

why didnt you use lucian

he honestly can take a hit

[delicate osprey]

I don’t have most of them

🤣🤣 it’s hard

[hallow star]

Yeah.. I am an old player so it's easy for me.
If I didn't have some of these pairs I doubt I would clear it even with offtype units

[undone ether]

that's the last week for bug weak lucian ;o

[versed meteor]

Absolutely spot on, it turns out nc bede finds it easier to carry good units

[latent eagle]

[old orchid]

Have you planned your remaining teams at all?

[versed meteor]

Ss mina + perm field effect love this combination

[latent eagle]

Kinda but not really? I tried poison stalling but tbh im a little lost on who to use

[rich needle]

Use ssleaf if have, use lucy if no have, use ariados, then use something with either recuperation or a very big stat

[latent eagle]

I mean for water types im having trouble on who to use, sorry my bad on wording lmao

[mellow linden]

Poison stall teams generally consist of a tank (BP Morty is a good option), a Poison inflictor (usually Toxic or Poison Fang, and if they can also inflict Trap that’s great), and an offensive debuffer (Janine is the premier pick due to Venom Drench, but other debuffers can work for different stages)

Aaaaand I see that wasn’t needed

Ah well, it’ll be there for future reference for other people, I guess

[rich needle]

I don’t understand

Are you not going to poison stall so you want water team

[dark osprey]

Not sure if helpful. But these teams are kinda budget

[rich needle]

Bp falkner that’s wild

[dark osprey]

Actually just wanted to try with the hide and sync grid. He's actually not essential with may

Lodge Rosa plus lodge silver with hilbert has decent synergy and probably not too expensive

[latent eagle]

What's the grids for oliva's team?

[dark osprey]

Also did use Nessa along with Melony and egg vaporeon against NC leaf but not very optimum because sleep hax

[dark osprey]

Shall send em now

[latent eagle]

Yeye, malva could be poison stalled but her setting up sun is 💀

[swift swan]

I'd stall Olivia then go all out on Malva

It's hard to stall when you have to deal with sun too

[undone ether]

Olivia can be sleep'd stalled 😮

[old orchid]

Everyone can

[latent eagle]

Oilvia takes like no damage from poison + trap stall 💀 it’d take forever to beat her via stall

[swift swan]

Do bad poison, not regular poison

And stalling does take forever, sadly that's the harsh truth

[dark osprey]

Not the most optimum ones just they work well together

[latent eagle]

I am, I use Lucy, she’s my main poison staller

[latent eagle]

I do not touch sleep stalling lmao

[dark osprey]

Not stalling but just disruption and pre sync

[swift swan]

Just be patient then. The damage will gradually build up. CS stages tend to have high poison resistance unless it's poison-weak, so it is painfully slow

Stalled bug-weak lucian today. Took me 9 sync buffs or so

[undone ether]

Same. i tried presync with guzma, not enough ;_;

[old orchid]

9 sync buffs?

Did you use badly poison?

You used LGladion right

[swift swan]

I did yeah

No trap tho

And i took gradual healing lmao

[undone ether]

for my run, i ran with Emma.

[swift swan]

So for about two sync cycles from Lucian I barely saw progress

[old orchid]

Ah thats why

Without healing and with trap it should be way shorter

[swift swan]

I took absolutely zero strength and attack, i don't mind

[rich needle]

I sat there and waited for 2 and a half sync cycles to kill

[silver dirge]

I was surprised for a sec before I remember your cursed ass team

[swift swan]

It was the best i could come up with considering the theme!

[rich needle]

What cursed thing is this

[undone ether]

can't be that bad o_o

[old orchid]

You wouldn't want to know

[rich needle]

But I do wanna know

How the heck did it take 9 cycles

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message shameless plug!

[undone ether]

i see it

[rich needle]

Why does

Lodge gladion?

I have question

[verbal karma]

Any ideas what could prevent me from quadqueing in R1 Bertha?

Because I sure don't know

[silver dirge]

Do you have Ice Zone on entry?

[mellow linden]

And if so are you making sure to reapply Ice Zone before 1st Sync?

[verbal karma]

I do, but I also have Ice Zone/Hail Extension

[verbal karma]

And I also do that

Yet there's still something that prevents me from quadqueing

and I just don't know what

[formal vigil]

is glacia activating first aid 4

that prevents quad que

[verbal karma]

Even when she doesn't, something else prevents quadqueue

[mellow linden]

I guess first, is the opponent actually queueing a move before your Sync goes off or are you just having trouble getting the queue in after Sync?

[keen jasper]

Does Glacia have Team Toughen Up gridded?

[verbal karma]

The former, yes

[verbal karma]

Nope

[keen jasper]

First Aid?

[verbal karma]

Nope

[formal vigil]

is guage a problem on that team and your tripple queing slowly?

[verbal karma]

No

Opponent queues a move before Glacia gets to sync

[keen jasper]

You mean when when she syncs

[verbal karma]

Yeah, before the sync animation starts

[formal vigil]

though with that team do you really need quad que can't irida just nuke bertha with her b move?

[silver dirge]

Do you have Quick Tempo on Irida?

[verbal karma]

Nope

[verbal karma]

Nope

[silver dirge]

At this point it would be ideal if you send a recording because we're shooting in the dark here

[keen jasper]

I've experienced a few times where enemies queue up moves during when your unit syncs even if no passives from your sisde trigger, but that rarely happens

[mellow linden]

We’re actually discussing a very similar matter over in Research and Findings rn, funnily enough

[keen jasper]

Interesting

[silver dirge]

Inb4 quadqueue was in-fact an unintended gimmick and they're starting to patch it up

[mellow linden]

For now try running Irida without Zone on Entry and just have her set Ice Zone as her 2nd action and see if that changes anything

Or just don’t worry about it, since Irida + Ghetsis should absolutely be able to KO center before they Sync, quadqueue or not

[old orchid]

Or just do turn denials

[verbal karma]

weird, no quadqueue prevention THIS time

I did nothing different

[keen jasper]

I told you it randomly happens

[verbal karma]

I really wish there was more consistency tbh

damn, Guzma isn't working out against R2 Lucian

I don't think he'd work against R4 Lucian either

[manic kiln]

Guzma

[swift swan]

Always

I'd simply try to dual strike with Bugsy/Lusamine

Courtesy of cobalt's team

[mellow linden]

Run dual damage-dealers against Lucian if you don’t have SC Emmet

[keen jasper]

Yeah, use what Lost used

[mellow linden]

Bugsy + Noland or Lusamine + Aaron (Hop might also be fine) should work

[verbal karma]

okay, I'll try Lusamine + Aaron since Aaron is EX'd and Bugsy isn't

but who'd be the third member?

[mellow linden]

Bugsy

[verbal karma]

oh

wait, which Bugsy?

[mellow linden]

Beedrill

[verbal karma]

ok

[swift swan]

Beedrill, he'll be nuking

Lusamine clicks Lunge

[keen jasper]

If Lucian does Hyper Voice too much, reset

[mellow linden]

As long as he’s 4-star potential or higher and gridded for Sync nuke it should be fine. You might have to do some resets for good move RNG and/or MP Refresh, but it’s pretty much either this or off-type/Poison stall for those of us without SC Emmet or a high-investment SS Hilbert

[verbal karma]

damn, even without Hyper Voice, Aaron is taking too much damage

[keen jasper]

Psychic just hits too hard

[mellow linden]

You might have to do some resets so the opponent doesn’t use their strongest moves that often

[manic kiln]

just reset, you are not going to get it right away using budget units, aaron still great tho

[verbal karma]

oh no

Bugsy's sync only removes 20% of the opponent's health

[mellow linden]

Sounds like he’s either not properly gridded or you’re using bad params

Hold on, lemme go grab the parameters I ran

[manic kiln]

you still sync with support first

[verbal karma]

I always do that when my support is EX'd

why do you act like I don't?

[manic kiln]

you never know, people see mega units and sometimes sync with them 1st

[verbal karma]

well, I don't unless I am explicitly told to

anyway, sync grid for Bugsy is good?

[mellow linden]

Parameters I used:

• Physical Shield
• Special Shield
• Atk. And Sp. Atk. ^1
• No Status Conditions
• Strength ^1
• Sync Buff ^5
• Atk. And Sp. Atk. ^3
• Ally Healing down 5
• Power on Hit 1
• Special Damage Reduction 8
• Gradual Healing at Start
• Can’t Change Weather/Zone/Terrain
• Strength ^2
• Power on Hit 2
• Strength ^3
• Move Gauge -2
• Standard Damage Reduction 8
• Strength ^6

I had to reset CS again to grab these, if nothing else I hope the effort is appreciated

[verbal karma]

Are those parameters good?

oh

[verbal karma]

didn't see this post until now

hold on, lemme do a variation of it

[dark osprey]

Can probably get no stat reduction, interference immunity and defense up 1 as well as 200 points and remove an attacking parameter if the damage is slightly much. Honestly with EX Aaron and at least +1 special defense plus the heal order healing it's quite comfortable

[verbal karma]

Hmm...what parameters could make the opponent more bulky?

because Bugsy's sync still only does 1/3 HP worth of damage

[mellow linden]

What potential is Bugsy at and are you using his Trainer Move twice by the time he Syncs?

[manic kiln]

how much, I did 18-20k

[verbal karma]

I am using his TM twice at the beginning

[mellow linden]

And his potential? (3-star, 4-star, etc.)

[verbal karma]

5 star

[mellow linden]

Are you using his Sure Crit at all?

Could be lack of critical hit

[verbal karma]

I am doing it right before his sync

[mellow linden]

You're making sure to use Lunge with Lusamine?

[dark osprey]

Might as well check the grid too and use the parameters suggested by Cobalt for better tanking

[lunar meadow]

I think I'll self challenge CSMM this week for a striker.

I must use a 3* or egg Mon striker for each fight

Enemy has -6 attack, shiny scorbunny has +4 defense.

Still dies to first enemy sync. What a useless unit

[mellow linden]

Just dual damage-dealer everything

[verbal karma]

I am using Lunge with Lusamine when I can

sadly, Lunge hits like wet paper

[verbal karma]

the problem isn't me taking too much damage, the problem is the enemy taking too little damage

Wait, is this a good Lusamine grid?

[nocturne pawn]

she doesnt have much tbh

lemme look

would use pr5 instead of tm mpr

besides that it looks fine

[mellow linden]

What round is this?

[onyx ice]

Me using 1st impression the defeat Lucian

[verbal karma]

R2

[mellow linden]

There really shouldn’t be any issues KOing the center then

[verbal karma]

yet there is

[mellow linden]

Are you able to record video or take screenshots?

[verbal karma]

I could try to take a screenshot of how much damage Bugsy's sync does

[mellow linden]

How much HP is the opponent at by the time Bugsy Syncs and how much is left after Bugsy Syncs?

[mellow linden]

Ok, something is definitely wrong with your gameplay or parameters

[verbal karma]

Those are my parameters

[mellow linden]

The opponent should not be at nearly full HP by the time Bugsy Syncs

[verbal karma]

You mean Lunge wasn't supposed to hit like a wet towel?

[mellow linden]

It’s supposed to be doing a pretty darn good amount of damage

[verbal karma]

Damn...I don't seem to get that damage

[mellow linden]

I didn’t even have a Lunge focused grid and Lucian was like half HP by the time Bugsy Synced

…You actually maxed the team’s Attack and crit with Aaron’s Trainer Move, right? 3 uses of it?

Because I’m gonna be honest, the fact that Bugsy is at exactly +1 accuracy despite not having any accuracy buffs in his kit suggests that you only used Aaron’s Trainer Move once

Which would absolutely explain why you’re not dealing enough damage

Yeah, doing the calculations you either have some extremely strange Lucky Skills or you didn’t max the team’s offenses. The team straight up cannot be at +5 Defense while also having Aaron use Heal Order and using his Trainer Move 3 times

[silver dirge]

This is really basic & fundamental gameplay, it should be 2nd nature by now

[latent eagle]

I can kill mid but then the sides kill me aaaaaaa

[mellow linden]

Might need to abuse flinches if you're set on rolling with that team

[latent eagle]

Hilbert does not like giving me flitches 😭☠️

[mellow linden]

Lodge Silver can flinch too

[latent eagle]

Lodge silver is focused on freezing

[mellow linden]

Can abuse Freeze in basically the same way then

Albeit not as well

Who're you Syncing with in that team, btw?

[latent eagle]

Again I can only really knock out mid before sides take me out either from not freeze/flitch or they switch up which order on who attacks and then I get hit with a move

Hilbert then Rosa

[mellow linden]

If you're Syncing with Rosa then you can try running a Liquidation build (ignore Dirty Fighting) on Silver and then once center is down just spam Waterfall on sides alongside Hilbert to try and flinch

Alternatively you may have other team options, including off-type teams or Poison stall

[latent eagle]

All I have left is malva and I have no idea what to do 💀 I have egg mons and May left for rain (and Lyra but she only does rain when sync) and I kinda wanna save May for CH leaf n egg monster are fragile

Even if I poison stall there’s still the sun to deal with

[mellow linden]

Could you show your full roster (if you already showed it previously just lemme know and I’ll go find it)?

[latent eagle]

Like full roster and not just the water types?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, because you might have helpful utility pairs that aren’t Water type (you don’t need to run monotype teams in Special CS)

[latent eagle]

I need to redo my sync tracker completely so for now screenshots

[lunar meadow]

Typically, it's good to share:

1. On-type damage dealers (strikers and damage oriented techs. Or just all tech and strike for the relevent type)
2. Supports (searching for 5*, because we will assume you have most 3/4* options)
3. Specific utility, like WTZ setters (in this case, ones that set Rain)

[steel kelp]

Gross image dump

[mellow linden]

I asked for the full roster, it’s fine

[latent eagle]

Literally said I need to redo my sync tracker completely otherwise I would’ve shared that 😂

[mellow linden]

Are you planning to use SST Red for the Leaf fight? Because if not you could off-type with him + Support + someone who sets any weather other than Sun

[lunar meadow]

Yep, just advising for the future for Ducy.

[latent eagle]

I could try SST red just not sure who’d be a good support + all I have left for weather is hail and sandstorm and those cause a bit of damage

[mellow linden]

The chip damage isn’t gonna matter. As for the Support, ideally a good Sp. Def. tank

[lunar meadow]

Misty/Psyduck and Morty/Mismagius are fantastic all around defensive support options.

[peak stirrup]

Does Heracross matter if I use physical or special?

For some reason Red doesn’t seem to be doing his normal damage

[mellow linden]

It doesn’t matter. You could have accidentally turned on the wrong Damage Reduction 8 parameter(s) or be mistaking the larger amount of HP on Aaron for less damage from your team

[latent eagle]

SST Red is doing like no damage 💀

[mellow linden]

Probably have the wrong Damage Reduction 8 parameters turned on

Phsyical Damage Reduction 8 and Standard Damage Reduction 8 are both parameters you need to avoid when off-typing with SST Red

[latent eagle]

I have the right parameters turned on

[mellow linden]

What team are you using and are you making sure to use SST Red’s Trainer Move and set Electric Terrain?

[latent eagle]

Morty/SST red/acerola and yes

[mellow linden]

Could you show me the parameters you’re using, then? It’s possible you’ve taken too many bulk-increasing parameters by accident

[mellow linden]

Try replacing Def. And Sp. Def. ^3 and No Status Conditions. The latter can easily be replaced with the 50-point Physical Damage Reduction parameter, as the only thing that parameter does is set Reflect (which is ignored by critical hits).

Def. And Sp. Def. ^3 can be replaced with Sync Buff ^5 since you should be aiming to KO the opponent before they Sync anyway

By making those adjustments SST Red can Paralyze the opponents with his Max Move (and depending on his grid that’ll also set Electric Terrain), which lets his B Move lower their Defense and Sp. Def. and further increase his damage. The parameter adjustment will also lower the opponents’ base Defense and Sp. Def. by a large amount, which will also increase damage dealt

[peak stirrup]

Hmm. Maybe I’ll try a NC Leaf nuke instead.

[latent eagle]

What's the attack order bc I keep flinching the wrong mon 😭

[mellow linden]

You shouldn’t need to flinch anyone specific

[nocturne pawn]

i think its mid right mid left mid mid sync

[mellow linden]

But yeah, assuming no interruptions Taiyo has the move order of the opponents

[blazing narwhal]

Does lucian have wise entry

[lunar meadow]

Wise Entry 2

So you want phys attackers

[mellow linden]

Wise Entry x2, more specifically

[blazing narwhal]

U mean x2 right

Ok

[latent eagle]

What’s a support I could use for this team? I tried skyla but she basically kept getting 1 shot

[lunar meadow]

Ah, ya I forget which one can be ignored by crit and which one affects base stats

The one that affects base stats should be like... "Wisened Body"

[mellow linden]

Is Champ Bede still available?

SS Brendan is also an option

If still available

[latent eagle]

Both are still available

[mellow linden]

Can try both then and see what works for you

[nocturne pawn]

honestly using an off type physical attacker is easier than dealing with bug weak lucian with an on type special damage dealer

-2 on entry satisfied snarl and wise entry x2 is insanely anti special

and when i did try using ss hilbert he failed to crit twice

so i just threw pikared at it

[latent eagle]

Something must be wrong with the parameter bc support is basically getting 1 shot 😭 CH bede lasted longer then SS brendan but died before sync could happen

[nocturne pawn]

attack up 5 with that much strength hurts

id probably drop that and use half hp

[mellow linden]

I’m surprised the enemy even got to Sync, tbh

[nocturne pawn]

well ss brendan couldve gotten one shot

[mellow linden]

Ah, wait, misread

My bad

[nocturne pawn]

i mean

ss brendan should be better

cuz nc leaf uses special moves

but left has flare blitz

[latent eagle]

Half hp basically is guarantee 1 shot 💀

[mellow linden]

Can try replacing Atk. And Sp. Atk. ^5 with Max HP ^2 and the 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameter

[nocturne pawn]

not if you drop attack up 5

50% more attack with str9 is a lot more damage

[latent eagle]

I did drop attack up 5 and was still 1 shot

[mellow linden]

Just like the 50-point PDR parameter only sets Reflect, the 50-point SDR parameter only sets Light Screen, and both those effects are ignored by critical hits

Heck, instead of Max HP ^2 you could do Strike pairs take x3 damage and Atk. And Sp. Atk. ^1

Since your damage-dealers are both Techs

[latent eagle]

ARE YOU SERIOUS???

[mellow linden]

Oof

[latent eagle]

This is actually so frustrating oh my god

[peak stirrup]

How should I approach Aaron?

[steel kelp]

It doesn’t matter

As long as you build a team properly you have options

[peak stirrup]

Tried to to SS Morty Lyra Red, didn’t do well. Swapped Red for Silver, did about the same.

[formal vigil]

Try ss morty nc leaf and either ss red/leon

[peak stirrup]

Can I set up leaf’s nuke that fast?

[old orchid]

You have 2 sync cycles to setup her nuke

Just use Leer once then use B Move to keep lowering stats to -6

[peak stirrup]

Gauges will be an issue, no?

[old orchid]

Why would gauge be an issue with SS Morty in the same team?

Plus her B Move has so long animation

[peak stirrup]

I’m guessing Morty gets first and I have to get my second before him?

[eternal matrix]

You could alternatively go triple leer and then b move once to get 24 debuffs in on mid, 12 on the sides

You only need 18 to cap out power play

But realistically, you shouldn’t be bumping into gauge issues even if you leer once and then do triple b move after that, with how much speed he’s buffing for the team

[verbal karma]

...oh...

sadly, I can't grid MP Refresh on Aaron's TM

so this has to be done without that

[mellow linden]

Change the grid then

I ran a grid with MP Refresh

I’m also going to be brutally honest with you.

If you are not able to consistently apply the most basic principles such as “make sure your damage-dealers are getting properly set up”, you are not ready for 3k per stage Master Mode, and you probably are not ready for point values much higher than 850 per stage

[rotund lagoon]

Maxed offensive buffs come first and foremost.

[verbal karma]

hmm...okay, I might need to replace Aaron then

with someone who can fully buff attack and crit

[mellow linden]

Or just…re-grid Aaron

[rotund lagoon]

Aaron can tho

What grid do you have that you believe you cannot replace a tile for MPR?

[verbal karma]

I mean, I can't find any grid panel I could replace

[manic kiln]

[rotund lagoon]

Your opinion may differentiate from ours. Show the grid please.

[mellow linden]

This is the grid I ran, it’s probably not even that great outside of ensuring Aaron can max the team’s offenses with MP Refresh

I slapped it together when he was 2/5 and never went back to change it

[verbal karma]

hold on, lemme load up the grid

[mellow linden]

Also, you have Precision Pals on his grid, that’s easily replaceable with MP Refresh

[verbal karma]

...I mean...is it?

[mellow linden]

Bug weak Lucian does not have evasion shenanigans and you can just use a different preset if you don’t want to deactivate the tile on the current preset

So yes, Precision Pals is replaceable

[verbal karma]

...hmm...I think I found a different thing I could replace?

[mellow linden]

I mean, you literally have a tile that’s doing absolutely nothing for the current stage you can replace

That’s the best possible scenario if you want to change as little as possible to get MP Refresh

[verbal karma]

...okay, had to double check: thankfully, Lunge has an accuracy of 100

[mellow linden]

Yes, that’s why I said the tile was replaceable

[verbal karma]

okay, did as you said

will try again now

[mellow linden]

Now make sure Aaron’s 1st 3 actions are his Trainer Move. Restart the fight if you have to, resets are a normal part of CS

[verbal karma]

...okay, I was able to do much more damage now

sadly still not enough to beat Lucian presync

he has, like, 1/8 of his health left before he syncs

[mellow linden]

Try copying the params I showed you exactly then

Because iirc you have Max HP ^2 and I did not

[mellow linden]

A refresher in case it’s needed

If you feel you want extra safety you can even replace Atk. And Sp. Atk. ^3 with Interference Immunity and Techs take x3 damage since you won’t need any flinch (remember, my Aaron grid isn’t using Staggering) and have no Tech pairs on the team

[verbal karma]

damn, replacing Max HP ^2 with an Atk Up did NOT help matters

like, at all

still at the exact amount of enemy HP left as before

[mellow linden]

If the same amount of HP is left after Max HP is dropped then, assuming you didn’t put in another bulk increasing parameter, it’s pretty much down to the classic pokemon random damage roll(s) and just something to reset on and try again

[verbal karma]

you assumed correctly

I replaced Max HP ^2 with Atk & Sp. Atk ^3

[mellow linden]

Resets are a normal part of CS, especially high point values Master Mode

[steel kelp]

What is this high point value you speak of

[dark osprey]

Not sure why they're not following the parameters sent by Cobalt and adapting it on their own

Also Max HP 2 could have been replaced by No stat reduction

[mellow linden]

Currently helping them with 3k Lucian

Out of curiosity, are you running 3-star Bug Gear (and if not did you actually grab it from the event), or even just 3-star Gear in general?

[verbal karma]

I...lost those parameters

[mellow linden]

Good thing I grabbed them just above

[mellow linden]

Right here

Even offered some alternatives if you want more safety

[verbal karma]

oh, I already have Interference Immunity and Tech Damage x3 on

[mellow linden]

Anyway, it’s pretty much just a matter of doing whatever resets are needed at this point

Once the center is down you’re pretty much home free since the Alakazam dies fast and the Reuiniclus only uses a single-target move

[verbal karma]

...no, using the Atk Up param was a mistake

this is using up way too many resets at this point

[manic kiln]

half a day later and still at this stage, tbh just drop to 2.5k or even 2k. this is not worth the time and effort of everyone the extra rewards won't make a different
but 1 last solution, if your lusamine didn't do enough dmg try noland, you only have to spam fury cutter, grid for dc2, the def debuff might save your run
or if still have SSacerola use her instead of aaron, PMUN will boost overall dps
but like Cobalt already said you still need to reset, even with premium units, and we're using f2p and gen pool units

[verbal karma]

on top of MPR luck...on top of damage calculation RNG

[mellow linden]

Tbh I really don’t know what the deal is with why Lucian is surviving Bugsy’s Sync since yours is more invested than mine and even is better gridded, but eh, can just drop the points to 2.5k at this point and you only lose like 5 Champion Spirits

So basically nothing lost

[steel kelp]

All this for 5 spirits?

[verbal karma]

nevermind, I did it after all

[verbal karma]

nah, not for spirits, but for

[steel kelp]

Those are still basically nothing

[mellow linden]

Going from 15k to 14.5k is just 5 spirits

[steel kelp]

You aren’t gaining that many

[mellow linden]

For future reference

Regardless, congrats on the clear

[verbal karma]

thanks

[warm wharf]

is there any specific set of parameters that work best for palmer or do the normal offtype params work fine enough

[old orchid]

I only have 1/5 Palmer on my alt, so i use a semi bulky-offensive set with a a mix of strength and attack params

3/5 Huge carries tho

You may know this but just in case, i only use Crush Grip after the first EX support sync

[grand trout]

Red can clear aaron weak despite SE x2, right?

[mellow linden]

Electric weak Aaron? Probably, worst case scenario run Hau alongside him and use a Sp. Atk. + crit Support

[grand trout]

Omg fairy weak cynthia next week

I'm so glad i exed valerie

[spice turret]

Need help making an team

[zealous karma]

Could you show us your roster so it can be easier to aid you?

[silver dirge]

Please consider filling out the tracker below for easy reference

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[spice turret]

I've 2 teams
One is Lucian Shauna and ss Serena

[silver dirge]

Not just those 2 teams, please show us your entire roster using the tracker above. Champion Stadium will require 5 teams of 3 members

[spice turret]

And another one is Giovanni and xernes and Skyla

[silver dirge]

Make sure you include the 3 and 4 star pairs, they all range from useful to amazing

[spice turret]

Some unit's I don't see it there

[silver dirge]

All units in the game will be on the tracker, do you have a filter on by accident?

If you're having trouble navigating the website, just send screenshots in-game. Don't filter by 5 stars, we need to see all of them. And do separate screenshots for supports, strikes & techs

[spice turret]

Wait so the blanie and rapidash is blanie and ponyta?

[silver dirge]

Yes, it's the evolution via sync pair story

[spice turret]

Ah

[tulip python]

Man, even with messing with parameters

None of my decent physical water pairs

Do anything to flint

[old orchid]

You can do offtype or poison stalling

Which team are you trying to do btw?

[spice turret]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/ this is what I've

[tulip python]

Right now, using SS Misty, Sharpedo/Gator and Alternating between SS Blue and/or Lana

[spice turret]

Gakon

[old orchid]

I would replace Misty with a rain setter, and another offensive support to buff Grimsley quicker

[old orchid]

You have been told many times that no need to call for specific person. Also, check the video Arch linked above to know how to send the image

[tulip python]

I feel like I’m missing something; I basically do nothing to their health even when they’re debuffed

[grave wyvern]

You're not using a special attacker are you?

[old orchid]

You also picked HP8, which is punishing if your dmg dealer is not good enough

You could pick PoH1 and 2, Sync Buff 5,...

[old orchid]

Here is their current team #1009554906568462476 message

[grave wyvern]

Ah then if they're not nuking with SS Misty you're likely right about the HP param

[tulip python]

Not on this one, SS uhh the Genocidal maniac from X/Y doesn’t cut it.

[grave wyvern]

I'm guessing he's 1/5?

[toxic cobalt]

STR11 HP8 ouch

[old orchid]

Yeah the issue is mainly from parameters

[tulip python]

Based on these comments time to revisit the HP thing

[old orchid]

Stacking too many defensive params

[grave wyvern]

Brutal params yeah

[tulip python]

Alright I shall revisit this in the morning without HP8 and sub PoH and sync buff

Evidently the 2500 guide I was using stacked with strength may not be the best

For the special stadium

[toxic cobalt]

I would rarely advise strength stacking, but others differ

Stacking strength with HP though, that's a pain

[old orchid]

I wouldnt pick too much HP either

[undone ether]

if its presync, i think they can do it. if its 3k pts anyways o.o

[old orchid]

Adding some atk params are not too bad, with a good tank like SS Blue

[toxic cobalt]

Better than Lana probably

[old orchid]

Lana wont help much, cuz Flint spams special moves

[spice turret]

I shared the link

[undone ether]

you need to send the actual image

not the link

[toxic cobalt]

Please check the video as requested

[silver dirge]

The video here

[paper summit]

the link is no use to anyone, that site doesn't work that way, hence why you need to create the image to then send that here

[hushed sorrel]

Ss Red carrying NC leaf

[quartz vine]

the best stage to use poison + trap stall in pasio stadium???

[old orchid]

every stage can be poison stalled as long as you shut down their dangerous gimmicks

[silver dirge]

For a smoother time avoid someone like Malva who sets sun on sync

[old orchid]

its recommended to stall on stages that are hard to beat

[toxic cobalt]

Stall all five stages!

[keen jasper]

Stall is for the weak

[quartz vine]

Indeed, i am weak 🥲

[toxic cobalt]

Pasio stadium ends soon, so do the hard level sfirst, if you can't do them stall them

[grave wyvern]

You're not weak, there's no shame in doing stall

[toxic cobalt]

Do post here if you need additional help!

[sinful heron]

So what was Lucian's gimmick again? The hints say Wise Entry x2 but physical is doing nothing to him

[old orchid]

he has way higher HP than the standard

you should recheck your params, may be they are the issue

[sinful heron]

Probably, physical is bouncing off him

That might just be physical bug being atrocious though

[old orchid]

yeah they are not very good

unless their names are SC Emmet or VNoland

[sinful heron]

Then again this is sinnoh CS where the recommended list was like 11/15 limited every week

[toxic cobalt]

Bugsy Noland Hop doesn't work?

[sinful heron]

Idk I tried gladion/aaron/MR and it just went nowhere

[swift swan]

Gladion

That explains it

[sinful heron]

It was gladion, bugsy or noland

[old orchid]

[formal vigil]

Do you sc Steven?

[halcyon sail]

Who is MR?

[swift swan]

Bugsy and noland are miles better

[sinful heron]

And gladion is marginally better than those two

[old orchid]

Bugsy and Noland are better than Gladion yeah

[toxic cobalt]

And you went with Gladion 😭

[sinful heron]

Masked royal

[old orchid]

[halcyon sail]

WHY

[sinful heron]

Mostly just there for speed and def drops

[swift swan]

Absolutely not, looking at his atrocious stats and lack of multipliers

[sinful heron]

I looked at the competition and they're similarly lacking

[formal vigil]

Probably better to off type than use any of them

[sinful heron]

Tried offtype, it clanged

[silver dirge]

Bugsy & Lunge Lusamine can clear it with a decent support, Aaron works great

[toxic cobalt]

Just nuke with bugsy

[sinful heron]

Mostly bc all my good offtypes are special

Physical offtypes are like, Bea and SSGio

[silver dirge]

You can make those work too

[sinful heron]

Bea did not work.

[silver dirge]

Likely a parameter issue, but try Bugsy & Lusamine + Physical Support

[sinful heron]

SSAC/Hilbert/Bea barely scratched him with the second sync.

[swift swan]

Give bugsy + noland a try. Spam fury cutter, nuke with bugsy

Or bugsy and lusamine, whichever one works

[silver dirge]

Make sure you don't stack too much HP/Strength. And defense is an absolute no

[old orchid]

[swift swan]

That definitely sounds like param issue

[toxic cobalt]

Lusamine better than Noland?

[halcyon sail]

This is also weird teambuilding

[silver dirge]

I'm not sure I forgot Noland existed

[halcyon sail]

Noland has better dps

[silver dirge]

Lusamine just needs a damn DPS multiplier, waiting for expansion

[toxic cobalt]

"just"

[old orchid]

Noland needs turns to ramp up his Fury Cutter tho

while Lusamine's is ready from get go

either works fine

[keen jasper]

BTW, how many sync buffs is this?

[sinful heron]

SSAC takes hits and sorts zone, Hilbert handles Atk/Spd, Bea does the damage. Not sure where the issue is.

[keen jasper]

Hilbert is easily the most replaceable unit in this team

Well, maybe he can fully buff Bea's attack, but other than that, he's a dead slot

I'd probably put Maylene instead of Hilbert for SSA Cynthia's master passive and can buff Bea

[sinful heron]

Hilbert sorts Atk and gauge, which is needed

Unless someone else can max Atk in two and get speed going in time, he's kinda stuck there.

[keen jasper]

Aura Cynthia gives MGA with her B Move

[sinful heron]

Which is shite

Incredibly unreliable, for one

[formal vigil]

You need speed for inertia

[keen jasper]

Mmmm sure

[sinful heron]

Cynthia is literally there for zone and eating hits with max defenses

I'm more inclined to be rid of both supports to redo the fighting team.

[hushed sorrel]

4

[sinful heron]

Anyway trying this with bugsy/noland and... The hell kinda params do people run? My usual presyncs are falling flat

[hushed sorrel]

Why not just put in NC Rosa problem solved 😂

[sinful heron]

Don't have her yet

[keen jasper]

This is with R1 param

[hushed sorrel]

Yummm

Seun

I didn't play around for too long on that one can prob make a better team. With the introduction of skill gears I made a whole bunch of template teams 😂

Anyway I need to top those numbers 😂 let me have a crack

[keen jasper]

I also only used type gear

[hushed sorrel]

Pro

[dark osprey]

Probably try it on the second round or the physical enhancing parameter since it's a tight clear. Hope your parameters don't have HP up 2

[hushed sorrel]

Let me make some more mods 😂

[undone ether]

wew 256k

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing 3 sync buffs

[undone ether]

NC Leaf with Support EX Role i'm guessin? since Ampharos is not mega.

[hushed sorrel]

Yea no attack buff shuuucks

Flaws of ss red

[keen jasper]

Wait, you didn't buff his attack?

[hushed sorrel]

Ofc I did I need to mega charizard 1st

Then buff ss red then sync with NC leaf

[keen jasper]

Ah there it is

What move level is he?

[hushed sorrel]

5

Wait that's the same pic lol

[keen jasper]

Mine's only 3/5

[hushed sorrel]

His 5 tiles sucks anyways haha

[verbal karma]

Why isn't this team nuking the middle into oblivion?

[keen jasper]

Are you actually struggling with 4/5 SS Lana?

[verbal karma]

The sides get beaten easily

But for some reasons, Flint himself is oddly tanky

The bigger problem, however, is that he hits like a truck against my Supports

Hell, one Fire Blast can insta-kill

[keen jasper]

Are you not using Sabrina to heal?

In fact, I think that SS Dawn should be first target

Oh wait she is

[verbal karma]

I am, but he does more damage than I can heal

Same with SS Dawn's healing

[keen jasper]

You know, I don't have SS Lana, but I'm absolutely confident that you can beat Flint with max HP parameters

Or replace Sabrina for another damage dealer

[verbal karma]

Sadly, I need Sabrina's healing just to keep SS Dawn alive for long enough

[keen jasper]

Have you tried using cheese parameters?

Like half HP or -2 sync CD?

Because I think brute forcing works well with SS Lana

[hushed sorrel]

Finally my crit 😂

[undone ether]

300k lul

[hushed sorrel]

Going to try 2nd round it will be bigger

I don't actually need seun if I 2x support Ex sync

[keen jasper]

Anyone willing to try this team?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=001701014600&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFFRYZHSAiIyUpKi0&v1=012701080600&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBgcJCg0PESgqLC4v&v2=009003050801&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFFRcYGSAjJSkqLw

[sinful heron]

Fuck me running I just cannot handle lucian

[quartz vine]

Rng sucks but finally...

[sinful heron]

Presync isn't working, poison stall isn't working, offtype isn't working

[hushed sorrel]

What pairs you got

[sinful heron]

Many, my issue is physical is consistently shafted. I think params might be an issue.

[hushed sorrel]

Adaman can always do the work

😂

[undone ether]

3000 pts ea? 😮

[sinful heron]

Simply bc my usual presync params just Aren't Getting Anywhere

[quartz vine]

yesss

[sinful heron]

I tried the recommended Aaron/Bugsy/Lusamine and Aaron/Bugsy/Noland and there just wasn't enough damage

[verbal karma]

Not yet, but I...also forgot that I have NS Rosa

[dark osprey]

Which round are you trying it on?

[sinful heron]

Third

So MGA

[verbal karma]

Sadly, even with both NC Rosa and SS Lana, I am somehow STILL struggling

[keen jasper]

Well, that should increase your damage a whole ton, replace Sabrina for NC Rosa then

[verbal karma]

That's what I did

[sinful heron]

Oh 4th is phys up lmao, missed that

[keen jasper]

That's so cap, is Rosa in Pirouette Form?

[verbal karma]

Yeah, that's why I picked SS Lana

[verbal karma]

...I now realize what I did wrong

[hushed sorrel]

Did you get ss steven?

[keen jasper]

SS Lana still dominates

[quartz vine]

Does 4/5 lusamine & Pheromosa have a chance against Lucian?

[keen jasper]

With the right team, sure

[sinful heron]

You will need another DPS

Lusamine suffers from a crippling condition called "her sync is special"

So you need someone else to bring the nukes

[quartz vine]

Oh

[sinful heron]

She can DPS just fine, but you don't want to sync with her

You'll need another physical bug for that.

[verbal karma]

Nope, and I don't even WANT to get SS Steven

[sinful heron]

Ok lmao

Turns out lucian on round 4 is infinitely easier than on any other round

[manic kiln]

how did you fail with 3 OP limited units is beyond me, that team should've cleared in just over a cycle, don't even need 2nd sync

stack PMUN and boom

[tribal agate]

i'm confused why is that 4/5 SS Lana not EX and only 125

that's one of the weirdest things i've seen in my time on the game
also why is Sabrina there she brings absolutely nothing
SS Lana provides a terrain you might as well use another damage dealer alongside to complement her low gauge usage

[sinful heron]

Ngl I just kinda did flint round 1, SS Steven still wipes him with first sync in Psychic terrain

[manic kiln]

yeah but she also doesn't need ex to clear, the level tho I told them many times that item cap/lvl books are plenty these days, just max your pairs
sabrina is there to heal apparently, but why do you need that much healing when you can delete the stage so much faster

[keen jasper]

They worry about Dawn's survival

And Trin said he/she has NC Rosa too

[tribal agate]

she doesn't need EX i agree but it's mindblowing to me that you would invest so far and not EX

as a "veteran", i EX 1/5 on a weekly basis because idk what to do with powerups anymore

[manic kiln]

something about saving resources for future events like HS

[verbal karma]

I mean...I am going to EX her eventually

it's just that I currently...have higher EX priorities

that's also the reason why NC Rosa isn't EX'd yet either

[verbal karma]

pretty much, yeah

[keen jasper]

You're at a point that EX-ing a few units will still give you enough materials to EX what units you like

[verbal karma]

I actually have more Champion Spirits than I will ever need, it's the and that I have drought problems with

[verbal karma]

it honestly never ever feels that way

[steel kelp]

That’s the majority of people that do cs

[tribal agate]

you're probably the only long term player i've seen have a drought of these

which is exactly the issue and confusion

[manic kiln]

after exing like ~70-80 units you can just ex whatever whenever tbh, you don't really need to hoard too much resources for some events, just save enough for like 2 pairs

[tribal agate]

past a certain point, the resource gain should be bigger than the realistic amount of pairs you can get from gacha or need to ex for content
especially since the introduction of lodge

[verbal karma]

would be nice to finally reach that point tbh

[keen jasper]

You are

[silver dirge]

Did you max out Lana's crit for her sync? Because I remember this verbatim scenario and team last time. I had to point out she does not crit on sync without either the grid node or crit buffs

[steel kelp]

Lodge is so free

[keen jasper]

Playing for almost 4 years

[verbal karma]

and yet

[manic kiln]

2+ years is probably enough, like playing daily and not missing anything

[halcyon sail]

I am playing for 1.5 years and have around 70 EX pairs

[grave wyvern]

wish I could EX Wulfric for Bertha's stage

[halcyon sail]

I would EX more of my pairs if Hoenn got more monthly EXs but it is what it is

[silver dirge]

So very based

Hoenn NCs soon

[steel kelp]

Hoenn never

they can join the shaft with johto

[silver dirge]

Damn and here I thought you were cool

[undone ether]

Hoenn or Johto NC would be nice...

[keen jasper]

Imagine Hoenn NC being worse than the previous NCs

[steel kelp]

Dena will make it happen

[undone ether]

of course the dreaded Sinnoh NC will be in the back of my mind 😦

[halcyon sail]

Shut

[calm marsh]

NC Hoenn with Legendary pokemon
NC Hoenn with Spheal

[silver dirge]

Don't be cursing them like this

Our MFs are already hanging on by a thread

[grave wyvern]

Maxie has aged like wine tyvm!

[keen jasper]

I like Hoenn NCs because I was born in 2003, but I'm always a person of pessimistic nihilism so yeah

[silver dirge]

I also grew up with the region

[hushed sorrel]

@keen jasper lols

[verbal karma]

okay, I finally did it

[undone ether]

wew 700k

[keen jasper]

How many sync buffs was that?

[hushed sorrel]

4

2 cycle

[keen jasper]

So you mean this was the 3rd sync overall

[hushed sorrel]

Ye

One of the tar shot missed

I'll try again tomorrow

[verbal karma]

welp, now I am struggling with Cynthia

[keen jasper]

Struggling how?

[verbal karma]

everything is dealing too much damage

[silver dirge]

Post your params & team

[undone ether]

change weather immediately o-o

[onyx ice]

I can finally make use of 1/5 N outrage, confusion means nothing if you just have to click outrage once to finish the center

[verbal karma]

sorry, can't do that

[undone ether]

wut? why?

[silver dirge]

Bruh

[manic kiln]

you don't even need to change weather

[verbal karma]

params

[verbal karma]

nobody in my team has weather changing

and there's nobody in my team I can replace either

[silver dirge]

What is the team

[manic kiln]

[silver dirge]

Brendan is taking too much damage?

[verbal karma]

everyone is taking too much damage

[silver dirge]

I mean that team should hardly struggle but I'm not surprised in the slightest

[manic kiln]

kinda like my old team but mallow instead of brendan

[silver dirge]

Right so change the weather, she has Surging Sand 5

[verbal karma]

...nobody in my team can change the weather, tho

[silver dirge]

And what would you do in that scenario ...?

[manic kiln]

change them

[tribal agate]

idt Lucas is mandatory there

[verbal karma]

I...don't really have anyone I can replace, tho

[manic kiln]

change the support, or lucas, zone is not even needed

[verbal karma]

Dragon Zone

[silver dirge]

mandatory

[tribal agate]

why is Zerena EX but 1/5

[formal vigil]

you can still clear easily without zone

[manic kiln]

for some previous ebe iirc

[tribal agate]

ok

[formal vigil]

especially with ss brendan spdef debuffs

[silver dirge]

You have SS Acerola no? Swap out Brendan for her

[onyx ice]

Dragon has lots of strong pairs, Lucas definitely not mandatory

[verbal karma]

because I am saving up my Strike Move Candies for Strike Sync Pairs that might need their move level increased more urgently

[tribal agate]

anybody in mind?

[undone ether]

i mean, you've got access to Cyrus right? o.o?

[verbal karma]

I mainly use move level increasing to...uh..."fix" sync pairs, in a sense

[steel kelp]

Brother what

[tribal agate]

well she can't clear so fix her

[verbal karma]

well, it's been a long time since I last checked, so...uh...lemme check again

[tribal agate]

you should always have this open when doing CS btw

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium

to have easy access to the passives

see that Cynthia has a shiton around sand

as Arch suggested, swap out for a weather setter

preferably the support

[undone ether]

all of them have Surging Sands

and Cynthia opens with EQ 😦

[manic kiln]

and
Sand Screen for cynthia
The user’s Sp. Def increases 50% during a sandstorm.

[steel kelp]

or just be better and kill mid fast

[tribal agate]

also for once the parameters are actually ok

[manic kiln]

but that team should still clear without changing the weather tho

[steel kelp]

Right

[silver dirge]

I would usually raise an eyebrow but sometimes this is actually solid advice

[verbal karma]

oh rip, I only have one single Strike Move Candy

guess I won't be able to increase any Strike's move level

[tribal agate]

who was the last strike pair you candied?

[verbal karma]

I...sadly don't remember

[tribal agate]

anyway read up top and adapt your support

[steel kelp]

I don’t even have SS serena but how you’re struggling with her is weird

[verbal karma]

hmm...a support that can change the weather

damn

I only have one support who can change the weather

and I have already used her

[silver dirge]

Are you clicking Dire Hit on Serena?

And who do you sync with?

[manic kiln]

just ditch lucas, you have anni raihan

[verbal karma]

only once because SS Brendan also uses his TM

[silver dirge]

Okay that's fine

[verbal karma]

first sync is with SS Brendan

[silver dirge]

Serena is a form change unit

Sync with her

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, that's right, I should have tried that first

[silver dirge]

Are you using Thousand Waves at all?

[verbal karma]

yes

I am using it once

[undone ether]

still needs weather change otherwise your nuke/dps will be hampered by Sand Screen 😮

[silver dirge]

Okay that's good too. Try it by syncing with Serena, and ideally change the weather

Are you also triple queuing? Because if you don't alternate right the team will struggle with gauges

[dark osprey]

Weirdly Anni Raihan is the recommended pair to change the weather in the battle tips

[tribal agate]

pushing those selects smh

[dark osprey]

They expect us to just use Max flare early on to no benifit afterwards

[manic kiln]

perma field

[dark osprey]

Yeah. But still. Anni raihans max is wasted there

[verbal karma]

okay, syncing with Zerena first definitely helped

[undone ether]

i just grabbed SS Morty from my Anti Aaron team and just, ran with him + zerena and dialga ;o

[verbal karma]

thanks

[main lake]

suggestions for quick water 3k CSMM clear? notable other units include 3/5 EX NC Blue, 1/5 EXR NC Rosa, 3/5 EX NC Nate, 1/5 EXR Rei, [weather setters] 1/5 EX Irida, 1/5 EX Ingo

[old orchid]

firstly, you should plan 1 - 2 dmg dealers for each stage first

look at stage gimmicks and see who can you use to counter their gimmicks

for example, NC Leaf's stage demands weather change and spdef debuff

so ideally you should use a special dmg dealer with rain there, assuming you want to ontype

[main lake]

right, else offtype with irida's ice team

[old orchid]

may i ask, can you raise Lodge Rosa / Lodge Silver move level to 3/5?

[main lake]

yup i can

[old orchid]

Rosa is a good defense debuffer and a nuker

how many rain setters do you have? including eggmon

[main lake]

vaporeon

[old orchid]

you have to use at least 2 rain setters, one on Malva's stage and one on Leaf's

[nocturne frigate]

Where is the master Mode Parameter preset posted? I quit for a couple months so i dont remember where to find them

Oh its in the Pins

I'm dumb

XD

[main lake]

NC Leaf: May, NC Blue, ?
Malva: Winona, Nessa, spdef support (Elio?)
Shauntal: (if i remember correctly she only uses sun right before/after sync?) offtype Rei + NC Rosa + ?
Flint: offtype NC Nate, Unova support (SSElesa/Skyla/Ingo?) + Ghetsis
Olivia: Lodge Rosa + Colress + Hilbert

[old orchid]

both Shauntal and Malva use Will o Wisp before their first sync

and Shauntal setup sun after the sync

i would move physical units to other stages

about Flint, you should bring a good tank, preferably who can buff spdef

no need to be Unovan

you can use Lucian or any spdef debuffer on Leaf's stage

[main lake]

ah alright, i was just thinking about Nate's master passive, but if i move him anyway