Champion Stadium

[swift swan]

I used crasher wake. Good flinch chance, is a striker, you can take tech takes x3 dmg

[north crown]

Oh that's actually preally smart

[swift swan]

Oof, and she's the hardest one arguably. What are your remaining water damage dealers?

[verbal karma]

...is there nobody who can just...tank the Fire Blast?

[mellow linden]

If you’re not using Rain anyway try Sonia + C. Elesa

[mellow linden]

C. Elesa debuffs all stats to enhance Kris’ damage and survivability and can use her Trainer Move to eliminate the need for quadqueue

[verbal karma]

Because 90% of the time, Flint uses either Fire Blast or Heat Wave, and both are disastrous for different reasons

[north crown]

Sonia, Kris, Misty or some bs

[mellow linden]

Oh, you’re fighting Flint? I double down on my Sonia + C. Elesa recommendation then. Worst case scenario you can try a different team later

[verbal karma]

You mean SS Kris? Because regular Kris can't even tank a Heat Wave

and I don't have SS Kris

[north crown]

that's what misty is for

[lunar meadow]

Gladion should get the Field EX Role.

Set whatever WTZ he needs 😉

[verbal karma]

Heh, nice

[north crown]

OH THAT'S SMART

THAT'S SO SMART

[steel kelp]

No he’s going to get support

[north crown]

Versatile Field would actually be pretty dope

[clever jasper]

These are my non-support waters. I feel like if Volcanion or Kyogre were 2/5 this would be a cake walk, but I end up running just short of damage

[steel kelp]

And your gonna like it

[north crown]

Just run both: Speed/Gauge Support, SSLysandre, Archie

[clever jasper]

I did.

[old orchid]

how about running support + SS Lysandre/Archie + SS Misty for big nuke and positive erasure?

[clever jasper]

I was using this setup

[old orchid]

could you show your supports?

[north crown]

You don't need Kiawe at all, since both are self sufficient

You need MAJOR GAUGE

[swift swan]

Is the gauge okay?

[north crown]

If you have Skyla, she would work

She maxes speed + has gust mgr9

[steel kelp]

Where’s the literal battery leaf

[swift swan]

So flinch it, like I said. Even if your tank somehow eats a fire blast and lives (difficult), your damage dealers will most likely die to the heat wave

[clever jasper]

I could try but I feel like Moltres hits so hard that Endure is the only way to tank hits

[swift swan]

It's fine as long as you change the weather

Though some moves like flare blitz still hit hard

In which case, reset

CSMM 15k is just a long game of that

[old orchid]

i see SS Blue

at 2/5 he is very good at supporting dual strike

[old orchid]

EX will help a lot too

[north crown]

What moves does NCLeaf even have? We could opt for a support that specializes in tanking a category of moves

[old orchid]

use SS Blue then, and its very helpful if you EX him

[clever jasper]

Flamethrower & Blitz

[swift swan]

The whole stage is mixed

Because of COURSE

[swift swan]

Give this a try. Grid for pep rally on TM, the more MPRs, the better

[clever jasper]

Hm

[north crown]

I'm debating suggesting Lana cuz she has group fire guard

[clever jasper]

Alright, I'll try it. Skyla folded too quickly

[north crown]

problem is idk if she can support gauge from 2 4 bar users

[steel kelp]

Doesn’t she have mgr as a passive

[north crown]

yeah but idk if that'e enough

[old orchid]

not reliable enough

[north crown]

yeah I thought so

[old orchid]

and SS Blue helps with Archie's offensive buffs slowly

[north crown]

Yeah SSBlue seems like the best choice rn

If he can't do it, idk who would

ooo Anabel

[swift swan]

Idk what 1/5 anabel does

[old orchid]

she wont be better than Blue for sure

[swift swan]

SS Morty is a damn good tank and gauge support, if only using him wasn't suicidal in this battle

[old orchid]

no direct speed buffs, and slow team gauge down even more

[winged pelican]

Yea which is why i wasnt using any attack parameters. I was adjusting it for my team

[clever jasper]

It worked 👍

[north crown]

Then theoretically any decent support should eb able to tank a hit... hmm
Try full strength + extras and see if that helps. I used to always run full strength + versatile options until I was able to use one CS preset for all my runs.

[grim lotus]

field

strike

tech

[north crown]

Mind telling me what you guys were on about?

[swift swan]

Please use the sync pair tracker next time to avoid clutter

[grim lotus]

ops

[steel kelp]

Image dump gross

[swift swan]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[north crown]

yeah do that, cuz I doubt this is the only time u will ask for advice

anyways why is Eve only 1/5...? wtf

[winged pelican]

Kk ill try that

[swift swan]

1/5 but 5*

[steel kelp]

Make it make sense

How do you do that

[swift swan]

I...do I want to know

[silver dirge]

Probably not

[winged pelican]

I hate to think I’m just losing cause bad RNG but idk what to do lol

[silver dirge]

That's a lottt of bulk can you send your parameters?

Also you're delaying sync by a turn

Another thing you can do is disable Interference Immunity and fish for flinches with Winona, that can help you avoid an Overheat or Dark Pulse

[rich needle]

You can flinch with leaf too

Also berserk bunch is useless

Or is it buddies idk it’s the attack one

[silver dirge]

In the replay, you should've clicked Leaf's sync then Cyrus' Hydro Pump

[rich needle]

Also wait a second

Why did leaf heal so little

Do you have healing reduction on

[silver dirge]

That's fine

[winged pelican]

[silver dirge]

If they can dodge avoid an Overheat it'll be much more effective

Healing Down is usually free 100 pts

[north crown]

1. You didn't use Cyrus' TM twice. This is cutting your damage in half.
2. Delayed turns. Skill Issue.
3. First Hydro Pump wasted due to no crit. This could've been fixed with another Leaf TM.

[rich needle]

Big number become small

Me sad

[north crown]

And that's just from the top of my head

[rich needle]

No it doesn’t leaf is boosting the spatk

[silver dirge]

Yeap

[winged pelican]

Physical Dmg. Reduction 50
Special Dmg. Reduction 50 50
No Status Conditions 50 50
Strength ↑1
Sync Buff ↑5
No Stat Reduction 100 0
Ally Healing ↓5 100 100
Special Damage Reduction 8 100 0
Gradual Healing at Start 150 150
Max HP ↑4 200 0
Strength ↑3 300 300
Ally Move Gauge Max -2 300 300
Standard Damage Reduction 8 300 300
Strength ↑6 600 600

My parameters

[silver dirge]

Ah

Special Damage Reduction should be physical

[north crown]

Oh no wonder

[silver dirge]

Cyrus is special, you're reducing his damage by 80%

[winged pelican]

WOOPS

Misclicked that

[silver dirge]

That makes a lot of sense

[rich needle]

I’m surprise Cyrus was able to do that much

[silver dirge]

Nah I was wondering why he wasn't doing more

[winged pelican]

Anything else i shoudl adjust?

[north crown]

If you really want, ally healing V5 for something else idk

other than that optional change, nothing much

[silver dirge]

Pick up power on hit params they're pretty free for pre sync

[north crown]

also did you grid winona for flinch aggrivation?

[winged pelican]

Uhm.......

[silver dirge]

Drop strength/HP in-place

[north crown]

cuz x2 chance to flinch would be huge for someone like Cyrus. His Hydro Pumps are no joke.

[silver dirge]

Yup, if you're flinching moves that makes PoH barely noticable by the time you clear

[winged pelican]

And im just trying to spam flinch on mid right?

[north crown]

... NO

Do you know about the opponent's general move order?

[winged pelican]

Nope!

[keen jasper]

Mid --> Right --> Mid --> Left --> Mid --> Mid --> Mid (Sync)

[north crown]

caster is throwing

when did we have 7 moves before sync

Mid, Left, Mid, Right, repeat.

[keen jasper]

I was one over

[north crown]

Since we have to account CS bs-ery (TMs and whatnot), the move order would go like this:

• Mid, Right, Mid, Left, Mid, Mid, [SYNC] (mid)

[keen jasper]

I already fixed it

[north crown]

If mid is still in the game: mid

[keen jasper]

And if flinched, it will use a TM

[north crown]

If mid is gone by then: right, left, repeat

[keen jasper]

It can be sometimes left then right then repeat

[north crown]

If they alr used their respective TM, move order goes to the next opponent

[north crown]

Whoever moved last is the one that goes later. In this case, left moved last if we're considering standard presync team, which would make right be first.

Standard presync teams usually try to fit 2 syncs in during 6 moves to ensure mid gets taken out before sync. Right would go first in this case

If somehow you take out mid first sync, left would go first.

The turn order would have been stopped righttt....

--- Mid, Right Mid [Player's SYNC]

Right here. Left would have never went.

[winged pelican]

Leaf go boom.

This is with rain, and before sync buffs just dead from 70%

[silver dirge]

Try Air Slash turn 1 instead of Rain Dance to flinch mid, then Rain turn 2 with Winona

[north crown]

WHERE THE FLINCHES?!?!?

[silver dirge]

Make sure you've got Aggravation on grid

[north crown]

bro istg you don't have aggro on grid

[winged pelican]

BOTH of them have aggravation

[north crown]

holdup lemme make something in poma

[paper summit]

tbf RNG is funny like that sometimes

[silver dirge]

Yeaa

[paper summit]

95 accuracy moves are really 50/50, I tell you

[silver dirge]

The SS N conundrum

[old orchid]

If a move doesnt have 100 acc, it has 50 acc

[silver dirge]

But for the opponents as long as it's >45 acc, it's 100

[winged pelican]

Flinching doesnt exist unless its a flinch on the turn the opponent uses XSdef turn 1

[keen jasper]

And if you have +6 evasion and enemy has -6 accuracy, they always hit. But if they have +1 evasion and you have +1 accuracy, it always misses

[fringe bobcat]

is your leaf 3/5?

[winged pelican]

Leaf is 5/5

[fringe bobcat]

since their moves are special you could try something like this, adding sp.def buffs for your team

[winged pelican]

I think thats my biggest problem. Sync Grids that arent cookie cutter from the google doc

But ill try that! Ty

[paper summit]

they are a good baseline, but yeah, it helps to know how and when to adapt for different battles

also, that's what having 4 preset slots is for

[keen jasper]

Wait, I'm dumb, I realized there's no fairy-weak Cynthia in this month

Oh NVM, I'm dumb again, what I saw was the Alola CS

[silver dirge]

2 dumbs make a smart

[winged pelican]

Well that was going REALLY well...until i misclicked a hydro pump on rigth and didnt kill middle T-T

YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING

Changing winona to aggravation and putting the SPDEF buff for leaf

Cleared it first tryt

I got a good run of flinches off

[fringe bobcat]

grats

[silver dirge]

Ay nice

[winged pelican]

Now to beat up Olivia.

[keen jasper]

Seeing this reminds me how I did my first CSMM without asking for help

Did 7.9k pts. out of 10k pts. last year on my first CSMM, which was Sinnoh

[paper summit]

then you cringe months later when you see the team abominations you used to come up with

[keen jasper]

I mean, I was a beginner back then so yeah

[paper summit]

well, yeah, that's the point

[silver dirge]

I scrolled down my hall of fame the other day and I would regularly run Anni Steven and Anni Lilli on the same team with Elio

[keen jasper]

Also, the only time I ever used poisoned stall was against poison-weak Cynthia

And she deserved the worst best way to lose

[north crown]

I was literally about to suggest that once I thought the team through

well surely you should be able to beat Malva now, right?

[winged pelican]

Beat it almost immediately after making adjustments

[winged pelican]

And round 2 finished. Beat Olivia with Swampert, Tortera, and Meloetta

[verbal karma]

Okay, what am I doing wrong with the params this time?

[silver dirge]

They look fairly standard, what's the team?

[keen jasper]

Yeah, what's the team?

[verbal karma]

Because Fire Blast still deals too much damage agaibst Hilbert, Heat Wave still deals too much damage against Kris and burns are way too common

[verbal karma]

BP Clemont/Kris/Hilbert

[keen jasper]

Can you show your supports?

[mellow linden]

Once again recommending Sonia + Kris + C. Elesa if you’re not running Rain

[lunar meadow]

Didn't we discuss like 2 hours ago that Samurott is not a tank?

[silver dirge]

You could do a turn denial sync on a side first, then 2nd sync to take out mid

[lunar meadow]

Samurott isn't meant to take a fire blast

What about mistyduck?

It can buff defenses, take hits, and full heal off the burn

[rotund lagoon]

Kris wants help with Atk/Crit buffing, why Sonia is recommended

[verbal karma]

Mistyduck is sadly not EX'd

[lunar meadow]

Right, Yamper and Zamazenta are fantastic partners for Feraligatr.

But Samurott works, just bring a different tank

[verbal karma]

Meaning that I would lose out on the EX Support sync buff

[lunar meadow]

So mistyduck tanking, Samurott buffing and flinching, Feraligatr damaging

[verbal karma]

But who debuffs Defense?

[lunar meadow]

Is it necessary?

[mellow linden]

Seriously, C. Elesa can debuff all stats and eliminate the need for quadqueue

[verbal karma]

I was told that it is

[mellow linden]

She makes Flint way easier by severely limiting his Good Form passive

[lunar meadow]

Does the enemy have a multiplier for def buffs?

Alternatively, swap Samurott to a razor shell and defense crush grid

[verbal karma]

Eliminate the need for quadqueue? How so?

[lunar meadow]

Ohhh, he has good form

[mellow linden]

Trainer Move

[silver dirge]

It was a recommendation in place of rain, not a necessity. But please make note of Cobalt's suggestion

[mellow linden]

-1 Sync countdown as an effect

[lunar meadow]

||I've literally never quad qued||

[verbal karma]

Ah, yeah, that

[mellow linden]

C. Elesa can also set Light Screen in a pinch, though it’s unlikely to be needed

[verbal karma]

...oh...C Elesa only debuffs against paralyzed opponents

That's a problem

[mellow linden]

You can switch No Status Conditions and No Stat Reduction

[verbal karma]

I never turn No Stat Reduction on tbh

But I can't turn No Status Conditions off right now

[silver dirge]

Yes you can, it's 50 points those can easily be made up my adjusting the others around

[verbal karma]

Oh yeah? What should I replace it with then?

[mellow linden]

Could try swapping Atk. And Sp. Atk. ^1, No Status Conditions, Interference Immunity, and Tech takes x3 damage for a Strength 2

And see how that goes

[verbal karma]

Hold on

I need to post my current params first

[mellow linden]

So the same as I suggested above except Def. And Sp. Def ^ 1 instead of Techs take x3 damage in the set of params to be swapped for Strength 2

[winged pelican]

WHEN YOUVE BEEN USING THE WRONG GRID

AND WONDER WHY YOU'RE 1% OFF KILLING

[mellow linden]

It do be like that sometimes

[verbal karma]

...I think picking SS Elesa for the R4 Malva team might have been a bad idea 😦

[manic kiln]

you need to stop using offensive support as tank unless you know what you're doing and have a specific team/strategy

[verbal karma]

My strategy was to bum rush it to two sync attacks and pray

[rotund lagoon]

Considering your track record….not sure that will be effective either way.

[winged pelican]

Any suggestions for teams/parameters for Leaf?

Also i have 50 champion spirits i can make someone an EX

[verbal karma]

I mean, considering I have to waste a turn-one Rain Dance with a sync pair that does NOT have a Rain Dance MPR just to counter Malva's sun

I don't exactly have many options

[rotund lagoon]

You are using a rain setter now? Who?

[rotund lagoon]

Probably something like May, Kris & Atk/Crit Support like Hop.
Or if Leaf’s Sp Df buffs are a problem, maybe May, Sp Atk Support and Lenora.

[winged pelican]

I unfortunately used May to clear an earlier stage...and Kris to beat another

And Lenora...

[rotund lagoon]

Cyrus available?
Also plan your teams before doing CS for this reason.

[rotund lagoon]

Seems you’ll have to prepare an off type team.

[verbal karma]

I am using one for R4 Malva, not for R3 Flint

R3 Flint is already done by now

anyway, the rain setter for R4 Malva is Winona

[rotund lagoon]

And the full team?

[north crown]

@winged pelican have any eggmons?

[winged pelican]

I think so tea

Anyone in particular?

[north crown]

any weather

actually no sun

@winged pelican If you could, I would suggest beating Leaf with 0 points, then trying for points again.

[winged pelican]

Kk

[north crown]

I just don't see a viable solution cuz we not no rain team left unless u really want to go for zinnia, in which case wtf

There could be a possible solution of Lana, 5/5 SSN, Candice for the Champion, but at that point I'd just slot that team somewhere else that doesn't do weather shenanigans, replacing Candice with Ghetsis.

@winged pelican I would try to put these teams somewhere so we have ample amount of resources for the Champion:

1. Lana, 5/5 SSN, Ghetsis
2. Hop, SSRed, Blaine [Olivia, R1]

Also try to save a rain unit for the end too.

Actually that's not a choice, that's an order.

[winged pelican]

kk beat it with 10k total.

SimplyJosh Special CS planning bookmark

1. Leaf EX, Cyrus, rain setter
2. Lillie, SSRed EX, Blaine
--- either Olivia or Shauntal
3. Support, 5/5 SSN, Ghetsis
--- Flint (spatk debuffing gimimck)
4. poison stall
--- Either Olivia or Shauntal

Champion: Melony, May, Elio

Think this is what we agreed on last night

I totally forgot about it lol

[north crown]

Oh yeah if u want to try poison stalling, then go ahead

[winged pelican]

I did poison stall for the 3rd slot

Where it has the debuff boost

[north crown]

yeh yeh that makes sense

I hope NCLeaf is prone to sleep

if not we're screwed

[winged pelican]

So many of these guys are immune to sleep or sleep last for 1 second and then immediately after theyre immune to sleep

[north crown]

Well it doesn't look like there's anything from what I can see on the infographic

[winged pelican]

I know for a fact Leaf/Moltres cant be put to sleep

Tried it multiple times

[north crown]

wtf ok alrighty then

Looks like we'll have to double down on her then

we wiehte ruse the Laf, Cyrus, Winona tema, or replace Winona with May.

[winged pelican]

I totally was using may in her own team cause she does so much damage lol

[north crown]

Also that would mean that we'd have to create new teams for the E4 if we want to perserve as many options as possible.

• Hop, SSRed EX, Blaine
• Lana, SSN, Ghetsis
• poison stall whatever thing u did

so one more team...

I would want it to be a weather team, since iirc Flint has sun entry

[winged pelican]

I should grid Hop real quick

[north crown]

That leaves us with only 1 option: Olivia sand team

god this is going to be harsh

Olivia, Acerola, and hm...
We might actually want to slot Lana in here actually

OH HRosa! We could use her to set hail on entry with grid

maybe we could do HRosa, SSN, Ghetsis, deny left side with first sync, then proceed to nuke mid with the 2nd one.

[winged pelican]

Cant i use Cynthia?

[north crown]

That actually doesn't sound that bad

idk if she does goo dofftype ddamage. u can try

steel, ghost, fairy, psychic. this is for myself

[north crown]

Actually, YEAH USE HER! I FORGOT U HAVE 5/5, WHICH GIVE YOU ACCESS TO ALL THOSE SANDSTORM NODES

oh my god lifesaver right there

you can even try dual striking with both Cynthia and Olivia

waitaminute does 5/5 SSDiantha have sandstorm nodes..?

[winged pelican]

Sadly she does not

I mean

She has sandshelter

I lied

Entire top left

[north crown]

I just thought of somethign stupid

[winged pelican]

Wonder if this would work in sand lol

[left storm]

Why even run those sand tiles

They're super bad

[north crown]

@winged pelican OH WE DON'T NEED WEATHER FOR FLINT! This is how:

• Melony, 5/5 SSDiantha, Agatha
• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=025500013100&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=18050301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFExQXGRocHR4hIyQ&v1=015802071902&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFCAsbHikrLzI0NQ&v2=006100009400&s2=5&l2=140&r2=4&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBggLIyUnKiwt

Turn 1
TM, Zone, Hypnosis
TM, BMove

Turn 2
TM, BMove, Hypnosis
BMove

Turn 3
[SYNC]
Agatha TM, BMove, sing
BMove

Turn 4
Melony, TM, Hypnosis
BMove/Zone, Max Guard on SSDiantha (optional)

Turn 5:
(BMove, Hypnosis)
(BMove, Sing)
repeat above until you win

[winged pelican]

The random sand shelter tile.

Jump scare

[north crown]

just burst DPS and sings/hypnosises until u win lol

oh mb I forgot to replace it

[winged pelican]

lol

Ill try it out

[north crown]

you could get rid of TM CC on SSDiantha since perma sleep

There I replaced the grid

[winged pelican]

Ha thanks for brainstorming this

[north crown]

OH SHIT DID I NOT SEE CAKEWALK?!?!

all of this bs yet I missed that

ok

even if you're not able to keep sleeping Flint's team, you should be able to skip sun, which is one of the most important parts of his stage

Also secures 2nd sync presync cuz of sleep shenanigans

[winged pelican]

Wouldnt NCRosa be better cause of Go Viral + Sing?

[north crown]

I like saving some pairs as wildcards, plus Melony helps max SSDiantha's first sync so it's optimal that way.

[winged pelican]

Explain

What does melony do for SSD

[mellow linden]

SS Diantha has a grid tile that means her Sync deals more damage if Sp. Def. is buffed

Only matters if SS Diantha is 3/5

And has the tile gridded

[verbal karma]

Okay, so how do I improve this R4 Malva team?

[left storm]

Maybe using a unit that buffs spdef

Might help

Also how are so many of your units still at 120 or less

[mellow linden]

Since Eusine fully buffs his own Sp. Atk. and crit you can roll with a defensive and/or gauge Support

[north crown]

SCJasmine, Eusine, Winona

• https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011302018100&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFExYXGCUoKy0&v1=021600024501&s1=2&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFCRcaHB0eHyIjJi0v&v2=004200027900&s2=5&l2=140&r2=3&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AAECAwQFBgcJCg0PEB0eHw

1. Fish for Winona flinch turn 1 to save rain dance for turn 2. Also lets Eusine set up trap via Whirlpool.
2. Give SEUP after Eusine's 3rd move in the hopes of denying sides with BMove on turn 4. Super Victory is just a nice bonus.
3. DPS away lmao

[verbal karma]

oh god, Flinch RNG

[verbal karma]

also, I can't use SC Jasmine anymore

[mellow linden]

Since they mentioned Supereffective Up they probably mean Holiday Jasmine

[verbal karma]

oooooooooooooh

[winged pelican]

I forgot to ask is this in any specific order? Like I imagine flint is last and Malva is first? Also what’s the role for Ghetsis in this?

[north crown]

1. SSDiantha on Flint. Use common sense to order rounds.
2. Ghetsis Debuffs, duh.

[winged pelican]

I know this isn’t the right channel for this. But @north crown who should I get here?

Idk which units I need

[north crown]

What banner is this?

[winged pelican]

Ah was curious cause he’s special while N was physical

[winged pelican]

Paid Holiday pick a unit banner

[north crown]

HJasmine cuz she’s goated 1/5, tho idk about the other pairs much so don’t go basing off that. She is versatile tho.

[winged pelican]

I’ll grab Jasmine then!

Appreciate it!

[north crown]

What the hell did I just say

You didn’t even consider faves wtf?

Well at least NCLeaf is basically free now that u picked her up

[steel kelp]

Smh picking encouraging meta over faves

[north crown]

Bro I literally told them to not base their pick off my opinion

[rich needle]

Well they were corroborated

[winged pelican]

In my defense if I wanted the others I’d just swipe for them. I have my favorites and have enough diamonds for eevee tomorrow!

Also love Jasmines outfit so it’s technically a favorite

@north crown !!! I got Erica also! So I can use her as my sun setter right?

Erica and Leafeon

[north crown]

Oh yeah her. She’s actually pretty great!

[winged pelican]

Woohoo!!!

[north crown]

Can Solo DPS 3k Grass week if the team is built right

Her DPS and Nuke is insane

[winged pelican]

That’s insane!!!

I’ll test her out and if I like her I’ll 3/5 with my left over tech candy

[north crown]

… do you not realize how rare and valuable candies are?

[steel kelp]

Hold up there bucko

Never candy a gen pool

Especially a tech

[winged pelican]

Never never?

[steel kelp]

Tech is the most valuable one

[winged pelican]

AS someone who used to whale super hard on this game I legit have 25 of each candy

[north crown]

I feel like we need to go migrate to some other channel for this bs

[steel kelp]

Tech is the do everything type

[north crown]

And we have AT LEAST 5 new limited units per month. This stash is gonna run dry fast.

Even if u save these for limited pairs

dw about upgrading to beat any tupe of content, as most can be done f2p

You just need to gain enough game knowledge/experience

[steel kelp]

Just because units like kris and hilda are gen pool does not automatically make them bad

[winged pelican]

I imagine the thing is, cause she’s gen pool I’ll eventually get her 3/5 naturally

So I can wait

[north crown]

That’s exactly the plan

Wow I can finally do my own thing

@sick inlet iirc u had a 3k point preset, 1 for all. Can you give me that list again? I accidentally reset mine

[north crown]

The phys/sped reduction shields are bypassed with crit

The only other thing they do is ruin quadqueues

[old orchid]

They only ruin quad queue if they are round parameters

Otherwise they permanently stay in the field

[north crown]

Drake roster bookmark

@grim lotus you still need help or na

[grim lotus]

yea

[north crown]

With what

[grim lotus]

fire stadium

[north crown]

But like, what specifically? Stage? Team Building? Where u at?

[grim lotus]

at 0

i want to get the highest score possible for me

[grim lotus]

?

[north crown]

That was for my convinience, however I noticed there isn’t any support unit images. Did you fill in the tracker yet?

[grim lotus]

nope because i was busy

spent the whole evening outside at the gym

i still have more tech pages tho

want the photo dump in dms?

[old orchid]

Better filling the tracker out for convenience

We dont encourage helping in DMs as well

[winged pelican]

Ooooh

[grim lotus]

where do i find the link for it again?

[old orchid]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[grim lotus]

how to save?

[old orchid]

no need to ping me

just watch the tutorial video

[north crown]

@grim lotus Made some rough mock up teams. You can test them if you want.

- Skyla, 3/5 SSLana EX, 1/5 SSSteven
standard offtype burst clear.
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=001600058100&s0=3&l0=140&r0=3&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhATFBUXGCYo&v1=016001078600&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=0&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBhIVJCUmKTEzNA&v2=009002038600&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcICwwNDhITFRoiKCkv

- Marley, Cyrus, Winona
first sync Winona, second sync Cyrus.
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009700005900&s0=5&l0=140&r0=3&p0=0&a0=0&t0=4444&g0=AAECAwQFGhseISIkJigpKi0&v1=019400048400&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFERQXGh8hIyYnKCs&v2=004200027900&s2=5&l2=140&r2=3&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AAECAwQFBgcJCg0PEBwdHh8i

- 1/5 Rosa EX, 1/5 MixRed, 1/5 HWhitney
I hope Rosa is EXed by now. 1st sync to her.
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010100049700&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFGhsdIA&v1=000000000300&s1=1&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=44444&g1=&v2=002601058603&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=

- EMisty, 1/5 SSLeaf, Hop
Standard poison stall. Almost any Synchro Healer works in place of EMisty.
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011001005400&s0=5&l0=140&r0=4&p0=0&a0=0&t0=1111&g0=AAECAwQFExQXGBklKCssLQ&v1=001710000300&s1=1&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFBgcICRojJCc&v2=024400088901&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcaGxwdHyIjJCYoKw

- Cheryl, 1/5 CSerena, 1/5 Archie

• Tank just needs to last 6 turns. The masterfair water duo should be able to sweep by then.
  https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002300024200&s0=5&l0=140&r0=3&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFExYXGRomKCssLQ&v1=013003065800&s1=1&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=4444&g1=&v2=019300038200&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=

[grim lotus]

woah

and with barely no data?

did you like scroll above to see the other screenshot or something?

@north crown

[crystal notch]

Nitsua might have pinged the wrong person

[grim lotus]

ah

they seem on point tho

[north crown]

Nah I pinged the right person

Just built teams with the data I had

I had to assume that you have certain pairs (e.g general 3-4 star units)

[crystal notch]

The only reason I thought that was because of the Cerena Archie team

Sounds very unreasonable to guess lmao

but I didn't see screenshots

[north crown]

This is exactly why I bookmark

[crystal notch]

fair enough

[grim lotus]

@north crown is there a way to specify which character is gridded and the level on that site?

cuz i think im done

[grim lotus]

i also have all eevee egg evolutions, in case they might be needed

btw i really appreciate that you decided to help me regardless

[swift swan]

there are heart icons you can manually add if you want, but I'm not sure it shows up if you export the image. and you can't show sync pair levels, but generally 120-125 is fine and that's what we also assume

[grim lotus]

i see, that's good then

most of my units are at 125, with some exceptions being at higher levels

[dreamy sigil]

Sorry for the 5 screenshots but I'm on my phone and the tracker gives me a hard time on it, trying to do 850 water csmm and I'm stuck on Olivia right now, I've only done flint with ss grimsley/bp morty/elio, could yall help out?

[swift swan]

I would plan the rest of your teams first

R2 boosts special attack, so you can use that to your advantage by using special damage dealers

(though if you can't, no sweat)

do you have Lodge May? Olivia is doable with Lodge May and Siebold

[sick inlet]

Mine also was a victim of accidental reset.
I do have a vague idea of most of the stuff I select though.

[verbal karma]

Winona just can't seem to flinch no matter what and I don't know why

[silver dirge]

Do you have Interference Immunity enabled?

[verbal karma]

Nope

[silver dirge]

Do you have Aggravation on grid?

[verbal karma]

Yes

[keen jasper]

Then it's just bad luck

[silver dirge]

Pray on the RNG & try again

[keen jasper]

We all experience it

[verbal karma]

...I experience it way too damn often tbh...

Is there no team that needs less RNG?

[silver dirge]

60% is very lenient already

[keen jasper]

Yeah, 60/40 chance is already pretty good

[verbal karma]

You call that 60%?

[steel kelp]

Just stop hitting the 40% easy

[keen jasper]

You mentioned once that you don't like RNG

[silver dirge]

Not entirely sure why you need flinches with that awesome defensive support and Eusine but I digress

[silver dirge]

30% base chance doubled with Aggravation, yes, 60

[verbal karma]

So I don't have to waste Rain Dance on Turn 1

[silver dirge]

Well then, good luck

[keen jasper]

Eusine can still destroy Malva with ease

Even without him syncing

[steel kelp]

It’s just malva

[silver dirge]

Queen

[left storm]

You don't need flinch as long as she doesn't click attacking moves

So either

• flinch
• get her to buff t1

It's not something that should take more than 10-15 mins to pull off

[verbal karma]

I couldn't rely on either of the two, sadly

[left storm]

Well duh

It's called RNG

[verbal karma]

so...I was sadly forced to waste the Rain Dance Turn 1 after all 😦

but at least I won

[left storm]

Then where's the problem lol

[silver dirge]

This isn't as big a problem as you think it is

[left storm]

You won

[verbal karma]

well, the problem is gone

[dreamy sigil]

I'm actually working on her friendship, but I don't have her lodge pair yet

[crystal notch]

Dragon weak Cynthia: ex Cyrus, or ex Zinnia?

[keen jasper]

Show your dragon units

[mellow linden]

In theory you can make either work since Dragon weak Cynthia wants you to have someone to replace Sandstorm with another weather anyway

[crystal notch]

Guess we can take drasna, but she's 1/5 and ungridded and unLSed (dauntless?)

Oh wait she has innate dauntless

So, well, drasna, ex Cyrus, or ex Zinn?

[keen jasper]

No one to replace sandstorm

[formal vigil]

cyrus imo

[crystal notch]

So something like Cyrus Winona + Meloetta/any support with potion and speed?

[formal vigil]

should work fine cyrus tm buff speed already

[winged pelican]

12500 finished!

[grim lotus]

@north crown

[grand trout]

oh no, it's sinnoh next week?

[formal vigil]

yes

[grand trout]

i was hoping for johto

[north crown]

aw c’mon; sinnoh isn’t that bad

[keen jasper]

With my roster having some uber high-end units, I think 20k pts. Sinnoh might be possible for me

But 2 of Lucian's weaknesses are my biggest gripes

[mellow linden]

Bug weak Lucian is gonna be interesting on 3k

[winged pelican]

@north crown you were right I saved May till the end and she just absolutely demolished leaf

Like wasn’t even close. Just destroyed the sides and with permanent rain May was so strong

[versed meteor]

Been a long time since i ran pure sweat on a psychic stage

[steel kelp]

Not sweaty enough

[rotund lagoon]

Where’s your Terrain?

[sacred mountain]

Are there any Battles to avoid for a certain round parameter (master mode 12.5)

[versed meteor]

Why run terrain when there is a free 150 points

Lel kahili has x accuracy FML

Cant take advantage of power on hit 1, if you cant hit

[rotund lagoon]

Not really? Param planning is moreso what’s best for your team and what doesn’t buff the enemies too much

[grim lotus]

i dont have misty with psyduck

[left storm]

Do you have SS Kris

If so, Clair

[north crown]

Dawn, SSLeaf, Glacia on Olivia R3 (status condition param)

Grid Glacia for synchro healing

[grim lotus]

btw i need info about which parameters to pick as well

feel free to ping me when you have time for that

[north crown]

Common sense

[north crown]

@grim lotus common sense

[grim lotus]

bruh im a returning player, if i did a good score on the previous stadium was thanks to @rich needle

[old orchid]

we have parameters guide pinned here

this is the pin, in case you cant find it somehow

[astral sage]

@grim lotus ^

[dusk swan]

Is there a guide for the special stadium?

[old orchid]

yes, in the pins

read their gimmicks, then plan teams accordingly

[dusk swan]

Was just wondering if there were teams preset already

I saw that in the pins just wondering if anyone posted most efficient teams etc

[old orchid]

afaik there is no team preset

[north crown]

No such thing, as everyone has different rosters. You can try searching for F2P options on the internet.

[old orchid]

you can post your roster here and people help you planning

or you plan teams by yourself and we give feedback on them

[north crown]

@sick inlet you got the point setup ready to share yet?

[calm grove]

for master mode khali should giovanni i syncfirst so i get megaor sync my latios first for the 2x sync boost

[old orchid]

Latios

[calm grove]

sweet thanks

does bianca make sense as a third for terrain or should i use something else

[old orchid]

Bianca is great

[calm grove]

can someone rank cs1, superduper effective, and def crush2 on victor and rillaboom for kukui cus i havent built him and am cookie poor

i have a choice between cs1 and def crush 2 rn but supder duper is like the most common thing ever lol

[old orchid]

CS1 is the best since it benefits his sync and max move

[calm grove]

awesome bc ss leaf can lower his defense

[tulip python]

Man I took care of Malva and Olivia

Now flint and Shauntal are walling

Flint needs a debuffer and Shauntal needs evasion

Saving the frogs for final boss, but trying to figure out how to off type the other two

[dark osprey]

There's always sleep hax

[manic mica]

For context: I got stuck trying to do CSMM 1.7k pts

This is with the first stage modifier, team is Diantha Sycamore Gloria, both strikers are 1/5 and Sycamore has grid expansion

Standard dmg reduction is also enabled

[formal vigil]

Probably use a different support than sycamore since diantha wants to sync first

So any spak crit buffer you have

And replace Gloria with something like egg sylveon if you have it for fairy zone or Lucian for spdef debuffs can also debuff attack too which is nice

[old orchid]

And free 100 pts too

[manic mica]

Aight thanks all

Losing Lucian will kinda hurt for psychic weak but I can replace him for Bianca

[toxic cobalt]

You can always just use Giovanni for psychic weak

[keen jasper]

Or whatever is your strongest psychic unit

[manic mica]

Yeah I have gio but no pb

[keen jasper]

Dual DPS with Bianca should be fine

[manic mica]

Got it done with Sabrina/Giovanni/Bianca with Bianca as the tank

[manic mica]

Steel-Weak was so easy I straight up did 2.5k pts

[tulip python]

Used Darkrai on Olivia already for that, since her stage required sleep hax

Used Articuno on Malva. Red is OP in all iterations

Except Charizard, there he is a glass cannon

[versed meteor]

Somehow kukui accelrock does more damage than iron tail

[dark osprey]

Can definitely on type for the others then. Can use Kris if 3/5+ for Flint and Cyrus/Strike Gyarados & a water nuke like Barry/Siebold for Shauntal. If you're saving May, she'd definitely carry one as well

[tulip python]

SS Kris or Gator Kris?

[north crown]

@sick inlet pls I don't remember crap

except maybe like max strength and standard presync tiles

[dark osprey]

Gator Kris with grid expansion is top tier on type

[tulip python]

Aight I’ll try her out then!

Haven’t texted her that much

Or Siebold for that matter so, may as well. Just need a debuffer for Flint

[left storm]

Og Kris is embarassing

They made a mediocre gen pool into a top tier fair in power level

With 6 tiles

[tulip python]

Is that right?

[dark osprey]

She's really good especially on type

[silver dirge]

Her expansion is so good

[dark osprey]

Sync and dps and can grid for a decent mix of both as well. Plus the self sufficiency

[mellow linden]

More than a "decent mix", you don't really have to sacrifice either one with how her grid is laid out

[steel kelp]

Water has had it too good for too long

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Maybe only sacrifice sync tile/s if going for self sufficiency as well. With EX not much need for that too

[grim lotus]

ok i gridded em all, will i be able to at least do 2,5k per battle?

[winged pelican]

Starting my 3000 point run. This is gonna be rough

[sick inlet]

I do all STR and Post Sync and still finish pre sync with 3 units

Let me see

@north crown

Few things you change occasionally =
Physical/Special reduction 8

If you don't need to use weather = remove weather for free 150 pts

If you need Condition or Status change, you can turn that Attack ↑1 to ↑3

You know few tweaks to your likings (I usually change nothing and pick Support takes x3 dmg because I usually don't use supports in MM)

[wide adder]

whered the fairy weak stage get +2 AGI from?

just had to watch Pal Serena miss like 5 attacks

on the sides

[versed meteor]

Its not even a contest

[left storm]

Gastly lol

[versed meteor]

I use lodge Morty cuz well there is 300 points free

Ahh the duality of 3k csmm one moment you steam roll the psychic weak the next you only win steel weak because the opponents sync did not crit

[wide adder]

Huh… never thought sleep would unironically be really that useful in 3k pasio cs

Eliminated sides and malva just can’t do anything while asleep apparently

[lapis ruin]

how do i weigh out the capability of my teams in order to pick score boosters?

[mellow linden]

We have some example parameter sets in the pins that you can use as a base and alter to your preferences. The 3 main types of parameter sets:

• Pre-Sync: You need to KO the center before they Sync.
• Post-Sync: You don’t care whether or not the opponent Syncs.
• Stall: Using a stall team to whittle down the opponents via DoT effects (usually Poison)

Note that on post-Sync the opponent should only be using their Sync Move once at most

[lapis ruin]

i like the former two

ill take a look ty

[mellow linden]

If you need help putting CS teams together feel free to ask for advice here

And if you’re new to Master Mode I’d recommend starting with 850-1500 points per stage to get a feel for the mode before jumping to higher point values

[lapis ruin]

o yea i wouldnt mind an account appraisal / reccomendations for build focus

since i usually just build willy nilly

[left storm]

Sleep will always be broken

[mellow linden]

It’d be less general build advice and more offering specific advice for teams for the CS stages of that week

[wide adder]

Also can I just say that skill gear is both the best and worst thing to exist. I lost several clear attempts on flint/Shauntal that I would of cleared if I just set up gear rather than forgetting it for Cyrus clear

Was ramming my head into the wall with Cyrus/SBurgh/quaxly on r2 just trying to brute force a Cyrus clear to save ncerena for champion leaf fight

[versed meteor]

The kantrio Inevitably staring you in the face

[wide adder]

i still die inside a tiny bit any time i see people use NC Leaf and NC Red together, considering Sun prevents Freeze entirely and Freeze is a big part of Articuno's moveset.

[rotund lagoon]

It’s not that big tbh, he can still nuke content without Freeze

[winged pelican]

Nvm I figured it out lol

[versed meteor]

Why nuke when you can dps

But fair point, just keep using leaf because of her debuff and ex role sync

But for some reason she wasn't debuffing special defence

[toxic cobalt]

No Kantrio team has ever worked

[paper summit]

depends on which of the Kantrio alts you combine

[toxic cobalt]

Nothing stalls like my triple leaf team

[paper summit]

eww stall

[undone ether]

Ooof. Cs sinnoh starts in a few hrs orz

[swift swan]

Hello CS chat

Guess what, I remember today's a Monday but due to new years I'll be out the entire day so params might not be updated until many hours after reset, apologies in advance

And oh God 3k Lucian

[old orchid]

[manic mica]

Man Alola 2.5k is a cakewalk

Namely with Ghost, Steel & Grass weak

Psychic & Fairy are a bit harder since my roster is limited

[north crown]

You know what I realized when I was planning my mono water roster against the Pasio CS? TLSilver benefits greatly from R3 param

[north crown]

Holy shit Kris saved my monotype run

Didn’t realize how good her nuke is

… why is Wallace’s Brine jacked af?

Bro is doing the same amount of damage as NCSerena’s Water Shuriken

[steel kelp]

that just means shes as weak as wallace

[keen jasper]

Is his sync nuke the same as her tho

[zealous karma]

She has Super powered 5 Inertia and haymaker i would hope so lel

[keen jasper]

Now, how will bug-weak Lucian treat me?

In 4k pts.

[keen jasper]

Prepare for pain in less than 5 minutes

[swift swan]

Updated

W

Big W

They're going easy on us for sure

[north crown]

dang these are some really good parameters

[swift swan]

I'll probably add in which E4 to avoid in certain rounds later

[north crown]

none of them seem detrimental at all (unless you count "shooting yourself in the foot")

[swift swan]

Naaaah

This guy on R1 could be annoying

[old orchid]

you like Fire Blast KOing your tank from full health?

[swift swan]

Never gets old

[north crown]

Aaron: Fire/Phys
Bertha: Ice/Phys
Flint: Psychic/Spe
Lucian: Bug/Spe
Cynthia: Dragon/Phys

[keen jasper]

These params are godly

Definitely saving Lucian for R4

[keen jasper]

Ok, Flint and Aaron were too damn piss easy even at 4k pts.

[neon bronze]

Whats the weakness of the next round

[old orchid]

[main crow]

Man how long has it been since we last saw half sync?

[old orchid]

1 month ago iirc

[main crow]

Oh not that long ok

[old orchid]

prepare for 3 weeks with half sync in a row

[main crow]

[manic kiln]

3k sinnoh still easy

[main crow]

Who's brave enough to do full HP 3k Aaron next week

[silver dirge]

Me

Max HP always

[main crow]

With whomst?

👀

[calm marsh]

Full HP full Str ?

[silver dirge]

I mean I've got the cheat codes but I wanna try Roxie/Piers

[main crow]

Based

Not using the cheat codes

[silver dirge]

That would be cheating

What other special elecs are there

Ooh Clement

[old orchid]

try Potionchu

[calm marsh]

Tank Clemont

[silver dirge]

There's always DPS electric chicken too

But he's close to a cheat code

[main crow]

Just do Hau

[silver dirge]

Oh yeah

[main crow]

Also lmao this is what I was running during 2.5k

Before I got NY Volkner

[silver dirge]

Ah you slept him to death

[main crow]

I REALLY do not want to deal with that heal order lmao

[old orchid]

back in my day full nuke Marnie couldnt do shit to him

[hollow swan]

Ahh Clair and Anabel with her field effects

I think I wrote that post on reddit long ago that

This IS clair's time to shine because ss kris and rain

And Cynthia doesn't do Dragon so she lives

Anabel and Fall Caitlin are truly the queens of field effects

Imagine stacking

Mga, rain, crit shield, phys shield, status shield, sp.atk shield, max guard, protect

Those things

How can you even die lmfao

[silver dirge]

Brute force him with a Marnie nuke on full bulk 3k

[undone ether]

hum. Infinite Field Effects for Cynthia. interesting

[old orchid]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/415089067479400448/1116542356582314014/ezgif-3-d4b8e799b8.gif

[silver dirge]

SS Cyrus

[old orchid]

not my gameplay

[dreamy sigil]

ANABEL MENTION WOOOOO

[hollow swan]

One of my common tactics is to just stack shit

[crystal notch]

Ok do yall think bugsy sc Steven + supp can do lucian

[silver dirge]

Probably

But why Bugsy

[calm marsh]

That make me has an idea

Old idea

Time to oneshot mid with Guzma

[silver dirge]

I wanna try that too

[old orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/guzma-guzmán-you-stupid-pokémon-gif-24445135

[paper summit]

First Impression memes are funny

Man just sits there doing absolutely nothing while teammates super charge him and then murder

[undone ether]

i'm gonna be doing Zerena, Dialga and SS Morty :>

[hollow swan]

I mean

You do you

That is a strong team

My first choice actually but uh

I wanted to make myself use clair

[crystal notch]

I wonder why

[hollow swan]

For a moment i thought you 20/20'd the guy

[formal vigil]

Probably better to off type

[hollow swan]

Speaking of hitting hard

Every hit dealt 30k lmfao

[undone ether]

Yo boy guzma gonna be nice 😮

[old orchid]

better offtyping or toxic stalling

i would rather not coping with Bugsy on 3k

[trail smelt]

God bug weak Lucian is annoying

Thank god it’s the only time he shows up lol

[formal vigil]

Yup

[hollow swan]

Bugsy

[trail smelt]

But it’s done

[hollow swan]

Can work

Lmfao

[trail smelt]

Tried him

Oh no wait I tried Noland lol

[hollow swan]

If your support is overpowered that is

[trail smelt]

I went back to my initial team of Guzma and he worked lol

Turns out his sync didn’t Crit the first time

[hollow swan]

Kinda powered up my ice types for today

[manic kiln]

gonna say it again noland bugsy is a great combo for bug weak

[hollow swan]

So

No bugsy

[manic kiln]

beedril not scyther

[hollow swan]

Goodbye sweet 40 silver tickets

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

Wait

Flint team is wrong lol

There we go

[hollow swan]

@trail smelt

Ss Acerola and Ss Lyra can make bugsy work

Trust

[main crow]

Just use Ghetsis?

He slaps 3k still

[hollow swan]

Gauntlet player so

I will eventually buff them all up to 5 stars

[main crow]

Ah

[hollow swan]

@trail smelt ss lyra is broken basically. She stalls so much that you can get all the time you need to win. Sync level does not matter for Lyra or Acerola

[crystal notch]

Would ss silver sneasel work

he's not EX tho

[old orchid]

no hurt trying

[hollow swan]

Nah man do beedrill gaming

[undone ether]

god that was painful

should probably just run a stat debuffer though hmm

[hollow swan]

My guy

Why are you using ss leaf against lucian

Like she is weak to psychic

[undone ether]

Emma's weak to it as well

managed to clear with Emma last standing @_@

thankfully there are no more Bug Weak Lucians in the horizon

[keen jasper]

Ok, Lucian took me extremely significantly less tries than my previous bug-weak clears

[hushed sorrel]

Sorry just jumping on now. Prob asked a thousands times. What is lucians' gimmick? I'll start scrolling up as well

[undone ether]

Zen Headbutts and then Psychics. Satisfying Snarl 9 is also in his movesets.

oh and Wise Entry x2

[hushed sorrel]

O wise is sp def right

[undone ether]

aye

[hushed sorrel]

Sweet should be easy for NC Leaf I guess 😂

[keen jasper]

He also has Satisfied Snarl

[undone ether]

i used my NC Leaf on Aaron

[old orchid]

NC Leaf's sync is special tho

but with how insane her nuke is, i dont think its a big issue

[keen jasper]

Yeah, I just destroyed max HP and strength Aaron with her sync

[dreamy sigil]

me and my 3/5 noland:

[undone ether]

well there's only 1 bug weak Lucian this month so as soon as you cleared him, he's done for the month kuku

[keen jasper]

But I still have ghost-weak Lucian so fuck man

[winged pelican]

Dragapult Leon absolutely demolished master mode 2500 Cynthia lol it was so quick

Glad I grabbed it

[hushed sorrel]

Why is flint so bulky

[winged pelican]

I have no idea when I’m gonna use regigigas though

[hushed sorrel]

Do I need to condition or?

[winged pelican]

Did you check the stage conditions?

[hushed sorrel]

I'm just checking if there is a gimmick

[old orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[manic kiln]

Lucian who, can still 3k with these 2

[silver dirge]

Time for 4k upgrade, no new params and lock a candy coin + 10 Certs behind it to really get the gears grinding

[manic kiln]

4k probably still ok for premium units, f2p units will struggle tho

[silver dirge]

Yup

[hushed sorrel]

One day... I'll have enough lucky scrolls and orbs to try those guys 😂 but for now Adaman will do the work.

[wet gate]

Who can I use against Lucian

Or do I need to offtype

[keen jasper]

#1009554906568462476 message

[manic kiln]

if you want to use noland & bugsy combo, grid noland for dc2 and staggering + fury cutter build, and only spam fury cutter
1st sync with ex support then beedrill to knockout mid, Aaron is great but you can use any support with atk&crit buffs, you need 1 mpr with aaron
beedrill just use his nuke grid

[silver dirge]

Y'all think I can get away with Burgh on WE x2?

[manic kiln]

probably with busted supports

[silver dirge]

That's the plan

[manic kiln]

ssmorty ncrosa maybe

[grand trout]

Sinnog wasn't as bad as i thought

[keen jasper]

I got away with WE x2 fairy-weak Cynthia with

[keen jasper]

Best girl indeed

[silver dirge]

She's my favourite 2023 unit

So fun

[manic kiln]

people who didn't skip that long ass sync move animation

[silver dirge]

I haven't watched a sync move animation in forever

[lean lion]

Tips on beating Lucian? I used my 3 best units (1 on each) to beat the other 3. Have a built Sycamore and EX Leaf Eevee I haven't used yet. No limited strikers/techs.

[undone ether]

#1009554906568462476 message you can probably do something like this then ;o

[versed meteor]

Hello people am hearing lucian is ass hard

[manic kiln]

people lied

"I hAvE nO gOoD bUg UnIts"

[whole geyser]

this 3 did well against Lucian🙏🏻⚡️

[silver dirge]

Surprises all around

[undone ether]

oh i could've used NC Blue as well huh xd

[manic dust]

Bummed Lucian was too hard for SSHilbert...but glad I got to use my shiny new SSTRed click to win button, so it all evens out I guess?

[steel kelp]

There’s no way Lucian is too hard for SS hilbert

[calm marsh]

Yes, he has Wise Entry

And Debuff your SpA too

[rich needle]

No gilbert can still kill it

I’ve bowled over every bug weak stage with him cuz I don’t wanna use guzma

Gues it’s a matter of supports at that point

[manic dust]

My SSHilbert couldn't keep up the DPS. He is also 1/5

[keen jasper]

If he was 3/5, then he could've done it

[manic dust]

Yeah, I'm not surprised. Too few tech candies!!

[mellow linden]

The bright side is that it’s a pretty smooth Poison stall

[keen jasper]

I totally forgot ghost-weak Lucian has Wise Entry x2

[mellow linden]

Right, 75% of Lucian’s versions have an Entry x2

Forgot about that

[keen jasper]

Oh fuck, and ghost-weak Lucian also has Satisfied Snarl

Oh wonderful, Allister is ground-weak

[north crown]

AnniLillie Nuke still wrecks the stage xD

[keen jasper]

Not in 4k pts.

[paper summit]

that's a you problem

[keen jasper]

Yeah, IK

[weak sleet]

Lucian is immune to special damage so using genesect is pointless right?

[keen jasper]

Not immune, more bulky

[weak sleet]

Oh nice that's super helpful to know

[dreamy sigil]

oh yeah i have to actually complete my medal again

mfw i forget that i only have master mode unlocked for alola

[hollow swan]

what supports do you have

EVERY strike pair can work

if the supports are busted enough

[hollow swan]

this is a good example of that

[dreamy sigil]

yippee i get to try out drasna on cynthia

[rotund lagoon]

Drasna’s great

[dreamy sigil]

yeah i got her while pulling for nc rosa and when i took a look at her kit i was like ayo hold on gran gran is kinda nuts

[rotund lagoon]

Olivia’s great too when you get her.

[dreamy sigil]

i do have her just 1/5

tbh my rock roster is lacking but that is okay because off typing exists

[rotund lagoon]

Wait…..I meant Olympia.

[dreamy sigil]

ohhh lmao

oh cool drasna + nc calem maxes out her crit and spatk

amazing

omg i just remembered drasna is from kalos so since i used sycamore with her and nc calem that maxes out kalos pride lmfao

and i got 13 types for this week

awesome sauce

[versed meteor]

Spent a fucking hour trying to beat malva without using cserena, at this point am just a r*

[north crown]

Hold on lemme get my Pasio CS run

Lana EX, Kris EX, Support Quaxly on R4 Malva

[versed meteor]

Already used kris

I think

[rotund lagoon]

What water units have you not used?

[clever latch]

Is there a guide for doing 15k in Champion Stadium? I got the spreadsheet but it only goes up to 12.5k.

[north crown]

u sure you didn't check the first pinned link?

nvm I do see taht it caps at 2.5k too

[rotund lagoon]

…you were so close, man.

[north crown]

Uhhh just add strength, atk&spatk ^Ns, and HP

Whatever you want really

[clever latch]

idk how to even access pinned messages here (on mobile). Google says to look for a pin icon but I don't see one.

Never mind, I figured it out.

[versed meteor]

Cserena, archie, Grimsley, May, siebold,nessa, lodge rosa
Tried a may siebold ncbede run didn't work and i hear archie is complete trash at 1/5 for 3k

[rotund lagoon]

You’re doing 3k?

[versed meteor]

Yes

[rotund lagoon]

What are the params?

[versed meteor]

2.5k post sync with +6 hp, and a mix of 100 params no stat reduction, sync buff 5, etc

[rotund lagoon]

Show them.

[versed meteor]

A minute (more like 5 blame my device )

Also the 50 for physical and special screens

[rotund lagoon]

See, I spy params you could have been taking that hardly make a difference, and that’s for the 2.5k part.

HP 2 is not bad, Ally Healing Down is fine, Power on Hit 1 is fine.

I’ve also done Power on Hit 2

[north crown]

@versed meteor Run Archie and May together, trust.

[manic mica]

What counters the Ice CS?

[winged pelican]

I know 3k is super subjective to team comps and such but is there a general guide to 3k? Is it just 2k with more HP?

[paper summit]

[winged pelican]

I did.

And it’s super subjective to team comps lol

I was curious if others had a layout to share

[manic mica]

Usually you'll end up with morr strenght picked

Tbh

[paper summit]

then I don't know what to tell you, it's just that

[manic mica]

3k is also poorly implemented

Tbh

[winged pelican]

Oh?

[manic mica]

It was done so we wouldn't complain

But not balanced

Imo at least

[winged pelican]

Oh well dang

[manic mica]

It gets weird because of strenght

I personally pick more stremght

And omit the stat buff nodes

[winged pelican]

Strength is just more overall levels right?

[manic mica]

It adds to base stats

Additive

[winged pelican]

Oh nice

[manic mica]

Don't pick stat buffs if you pick strenght

It will screw you over hard

[mellow linden]

It really depends on the team and/or stage

[manic mica]

For example I'm baving a skill issue witb Bug CS

And ended up doing 2.8k on it

Cuz I just so happen to only have special bugs

And Ice CS is weird to balance for me rn

But I did it before

[mellow linden]

Bug weak Lucian is a very smooth Poison stall, actually

[manic mica]

I did not think about it

And tried the usual SE team

Palmer gave me some problems when I tried with him

[manic kiln]

you don't have beedrill and pinsir? or people only think of guzma when talking physical bug

[manic mica]

Don't forget Lusa!

[paper summit]

I mean, tbf they aren't much better

[wide adder]

bug weak lucian spooked me a bit when i was clearing cs last night, was like "why aren't you DYING" then just threw an offtype team at his face to try out sstred

was not used to struggling to kill a bug weak enemy with gilbert

[manic kiln]

but they're enough to clear 3k when you don't have anyone else so people lied when they said they have no bug unit to clear, its even easier than poison stall

alone yes they're not that good but together, lucian taking

[mellow linden]

Might have to throw a Lusamine + Bugsy team at Bug weak Lucian later this week

[manic kiln]

fury cutter spamming is fun

[mellow linden]

I didn’t wanna bother with the potential trial and error for my usual 15k, but now that it’s out of the way I’m willing to see what happens

[paper summit]

I bruteforced it tbh, still won but ate a sync

[manic mica]

Tbh I find it bad that this stage is way too geared towards SC Emmett

Because it's not reason enough to get him either

[manic kiln]

Hilbert can still clear fine even with WE, if he's 3/5, or pair him with Hviola and OP supports

[manic mica]

I made him 3/5

Still ended up doing 2.8k on it

Ingo is that bad with him

[manic kiln]

well Ingo only provides zone, everything else is useless for hilbert

[manic mica]

Yuup

And I don't have Viola

And Alder eats too much gauge

[mellow linden]

Alder should not have gauge issues with a proper team

[manic mica]

And Hilbert needs more buffs so someone like SS Hilbert is mandatory

Or SS Blue

Brendan

Ss Brendan*

[manic kiln]

2k8 and 3k is not much different tho, just use support with SMUN, push his dps a bit further

[mellow linden]

Or just Poison stall

Because seriously, it was super smooth when I did Poison stall after accepting that Lusamine + H. Viola was either not happening or would drive me insane getting it to work

[manic kiln]

lusamine needs a new grid, even when CS was 1.5k she's not that good

[mellow linden]

I’ve been 3king all the other Bug weak stages just fine with Lusamine, Lucian is just a different sort of beast due to being completely anti-Sp. Atk.

[wide adder]

lusamine feels like she needs a rework of some kind with how much aoe the game has now.