Champion Stadium

[mellow linden]

Then while Sidney would be a bit stronger (since Karen is more reliant on Move Levels), it won’t actually matter too much as long as you build a solid team around the damage-dealer you pick

[north crown]

or if you have Nessa, go with her

actually nvm Sidney is more than enough for hard mode

[cold kestrel]

Are these teams okay? Tried getting as much types as I could get aswell

[north crown]

yo those teams actually look pretty good, tho I can alr think of a few adjustments alr

[mellow linden]

If your Olivia is 2/5+ then you could swap Hop for Acerola (and if not you could use Marley), but overall those teams should work fine for Hard Mode, maybe swap Hop and either Cobalion or Skyla on the SS Grimsley team so he spends fewer turns buffing his own Attack

[north crown]

I was thinking of trying to replace ingo with Hop or something, and lillie with a speed buffer

perhaps Skyla can be moved to Courtney's team, being replaced with another good tank since Cobalion already gives speed

[plush tangle]

actually you could very well swap ingo and hop or sonia

and it would just be better

[cold kestrel]

Acerola and palossand?

[cold kestrel]

Replace with Lillie or ingo?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

Though if you move Ingo off the Courtney team you can move him to the Olivia team if Olivia’s 2/5+ since Ingo will help enable her Sand Blaster grid tile

[cold kestrel]

Yeah she’s 2/5

[north crown]

I wanted to remove Ingo cuz overlapping types

[plush tangle]

what

[silver dirge]

Ingo is ground

[mellow linden]

9-12 types is fine for week 1, but if shooting for the full 15 is desired then Acerola will be fine for Sandstorm

[plush tangle]

yeah and ?

[mellow linden]

But one team has Courtney, I think is their logic

[plush tangle]

ah they are completing the types

[silver dirge]

Ah

Makes sense

[cold kestrel]

I could try it with acerola first but if it doesn’t work I could go to ingo

[mellow linden]

Sure

[cold kestrel]

Alright then these are the teams

[mellow linden]

Should be fine for Hard Mode

[cold kestrel]

Is there any order I should do the fights or do the extra effects not really matter

[mellow linden]

Consider avoiding Acerola and Olivia on Round 1 since they use mostly special moves and try to use your most field effect-reliant team on Round 3, otherwise the parameters aren’t super impactful

The majority of CS round parameters aren’t very impactful

[cold kestrel]

Forgot how good adaman is

[mellow linden]

So for future reference, level your Sync Pairs to level 120 if you’re gonna actually use them

But yeah, Adaman can carry a level 1 in Hard Mode in many cases

[nocturne pawn]

doesnt she only get sand blaster at 3/5

[mellow linden]

Nope, 2/5 for full Sync modifiers

[nocturne pawn]

oh shes actually very complete as a unit with 2/5

amped up 2 on stone edge lets her set up her speed really fast so all she needs is crit

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Olivia’s just kinda nuts like that

[cold kestrel]

How do I get around the poison? It’s messing my team up which sucks

[mellow linden]

The Salamence isn't guaranteed to use Toxic, so you could either reset until it doesn't or, since Ingo is able to handle Olivia's Attack buffs (as well as finish her crit buffs), you could bring Marley instead of Sonia. Marley can buff the whole team's Speed and her Trainer Move both cures status conditions and sets a field effect that prevents your team from being affected by status conditions

[cold kestrel]

I did it again and I just didn’t get poisoned this time

[mellow linden]

Yep. Resetting to avoid a specfic move order or get an important MP Refresh is actually quite common in CS, especially when you get to Master Mode

[cold kestrel]

Which one would be easiest for my team? My team is team 4

[zealous karma]

field effects for perma MGA

[cold kestrel]

Cool completed my first one

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[trail smelt]

Was confused as to what you mean by first one then I realized your first CS haha

[north crown]

Let's plan for next week
Could you show me ur roster?

[mellow linden]

I think it's a bit too early to already be planning next week, a lot can change in their roster by then

[rotund lagoon]

Agreed

[odd shore]

I’m a little late, but I recommend using Melony if you have her

[cold kestrel]

I would download a photo from the tracker site but it’s not letting me download it so I’m not really sure how to do it without sending a bunch of images. Anyways I probably won’t summon for the week so I’ll stay with the units I have now

[undone ether]

if you made the image using the Image Button, scroll down, and then....

If you're on PC, just right click -> Copy Image.

If youre on mobile, just hold tap -> Copy Image

Then paste on here.

[cold kestrel]

The problem is that after waiting for minutes there is no image

[noble plaza]

Oh yeah I think I saw a clear with Roark!

[undone ether]

if you have a sizeable roster, it takes a while.

[trail smelt]

Oh right I need to shuffle my next week teams now that I got new units

[dreamy sigil]

Been having some issues with cs, which has resulted in me avoiding it for a while. But with this roster what teams could I use to clear this week? I'd use the tracker but the I'm on my phone and it refuses to cooperate

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode or Master Mode?

I’m gonna assume Hard Mode, but correct me if I’m wrong

[dreamy sigil]

No you're right

Had to check real quick

[mellow linden]

Alright, then can build a team around:

• Olivia or Roark (would need to get Roark to 4-star potential and grid him) for Kahili.

• Courtney for Olivia.

• Masked Royal or Sidney for Acerola.

• Blue for Hala (alternatively you could off-type with Giovanni and Lucian).

• Kris for Kukui.

And be fine. Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and try to include 9-12 different types across your 5 teams for type medal purposes

[dreamy sigil]

I assume you mean vanilla Blue for Hala?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

[dreamy sigil]

Alright, thanks a bunch

[mellow linden]

Oh, right, 1 final thing: level all the Sync Pairs you end up using to 120. It’s cheap and generally both the minimum level and sufficient level for all content

[cold kestrel]

Can I dm the photos to you? I tried the unit tracker but the photo doesn’t load no matter how long I wait

[dreamy sigil]

I'd say "time to finally put my 2/5 kris to use" but i dont have the sync orbs to grid her

[dreamy sigil]

And about the last bit, I can go over 12 types right?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that's fine. 9-12 is the general minimum so that it's a bit easier to do both instead of 1 harder week and 1 easier week, but if you want you can do up to the full 15 week 1 and do the last 3 types week 2

[dreamy sigil]

Yippee!!!

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[dreamy sigil]

I was so close to losing to kahili with anabel/olivia/gordie

But headbutt spam goes crazy

[north crown]

sure...? I don't see the problem in sending photos here

[rain turret]

I cant beat neither acerola or kahili

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode or Master Mode, what point value and parameters if Master Mode, and what team(s)?

[rain turret]

master mode, trying going for 3k, Im on R2, for acerola Im trying sycamore, karen and ss blue

[mellow linden]

Could you show your roster?

Karen often prefers to take 1st Sync, so Sycamore doesn’t work as well with her as he does with other special damage-dealers

[rain turret]

sure,anything specific I need to show?

[mellow linden]

Just make sure it’s from the move level menu if it’s done via screenshots (if it’s the tracker then it’ll automatically show move level as long as it’s up-to-date)

[rain turret]

dark types, EXs and supports

Im saving poison stall for kahili on R4

[mellow linden]

Do you have Nessa?

[rain turret]

yes,she's not EXed,but she's 5/5(I suppose its normal nessa and drednaw)

[mellow linden]

She doesn’t need to be. Nessa + Masked Royal or Sidney + Attack and crit Support

The “ole’ reliable” of gen pool Dark teams

Nessa spams Jaw Lock, Masked Royal or Sidney Sync nukes

[rain turret]

both atk and crit support?alolan marowak?

[rain turret]

sidney should be better since he's 5/5

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t buff Attack enough, a dedicated Attack + crit Support like 3/5+ Hilbert, 2/5+ Aaron, Hop, etc. is what you want for that team

[mellow linden]

Not necessarily, Masked Royal can debuff Defense and buff the whole team’s Speed

[rain turret]

ok

[mellow linden]

But either Sync nuker option will work fine

[rain turret]

it does fine in killing palossand b4 it can sync,but then mismagius and gengar's icy winds kills the team @mellow linden

[mellow linden]

What move are you using on Masked Royal once he’s used his Trainer Move twice?

[rain turret]

Im going with sidney

[mellow linden]

Then what move on Sidney?

After one use of his Trainer Move

[rain turret]

brutal swing

[mellow linden]

Ok, just wanted to make sure

[rain turret]

and it does take some time for the gauge to charge,need some speed boost or something else

[mellow linden]

Could have Nessa focus on one side if Sidney’s Sync nuke is comfortably KOing the center (or Nessa can switch focus to a side once she’s brought the center down to Sidney nuke range)

[mellow linden]

What Support are you using rn?

[rain turret]

hop

[mellow linden]

Can try Hilbert and just Sync twice with Sidney

[rain turret]

ok

[cold kestrel]

had to find my laptop to be able to download the photo

dont know why it looks so blurrly

[north crown]

Alright give me a moment to teambuild

[rich needle]

Why do viktor 3/5

[dense birch]

Hard mode done i guess. Master mode next? Probably going to struggle if i need to do type requirements again

My scuffed teams for my last 6 types (Poison, Ground, Ice, Electric, Fighting, Ghost)

Do i just try master mode with like a low points score? Just for rewards. Or is it out of reach?

[silver dirge]

No you can definitely try master mode now, just don't jump straight into too many points.

A lot of the parameters are quite literally free, for example Standard Damage Reduction is 300 pts, given you use on-type damage dealers. Similar cases with Physical/Special Damage Reduction as well, just choose the type of damage you aren't utilising in your run. There's some presets in the pins for 850 points, give those a try first & just make sure you adjust to your team. In the right scenario 850 pts is a 0 difficulty increase

[dense birch]

ok. and i don't have to worry about types anymore right?

[silver dirge]

As in for the medal? Nah

You will need to do it once Alola changes to the next region in a couple of weeks though, if you haven't done the medal for that region

[dense birch]

yeah. alola is the first one i've gotten the complete medal for, so it's going to be slow going for the remaining ones

[north crown]

Fire, Ice, Fighting, Poison, Psychic, Bug, Ghost

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823566290563366942/1178993655005052938/AlolaCS.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1636&height=1402

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009554906568462476/1184703361468076093/image.png?ex=658ceffc&is=657a7afc&hm=5311a24c406c26e8cc08580bf611c8f93cae440c45b1463c51f7a7630962341a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=700&height=1402

[north crown]

@cold kestrel So I've been cooking...

[Molayne] Sonia, Bea, Acerola

• Classic Galar duo. Bea's Fighting-Type DPS clears stages. Acerola's Ghost-Type move, Astonish, has (60%) flinch via 1 single grid node, tho at the end of the day, she's just an extra pair thrown in.

[Olivia] (Classic) Red, Cyrus, Lucian

• Cyrus deletes the field with Hydro Pump, the Psychic-Type helping with Attack & Sp. Def debuffs.

[Acerola] Sycamore, Volkner (filler), Hop

• Overkill. Volkner can be anyone and you'd still win cuz of immortal deer. Use this unit slot as backup.

[Kahili] Proton, Ghetsis, Plumeria

• Standard F2P Ice-Type Nuker, with Poison-Type unit handing all the gauge.

[Hau] Aaron, Silver, Blaine

• Offtype Fire-Type DPS Team w/ Bug-Type Support.

Please check if I hit all the types you need. If not, just send the missing type in Volkner's slot.

[lunar meadow]

Master mode gets a lot of the major rewards at 4200 points, which is 840 points per fight.

As Arch recommend, that's very attainable!

Master mode is a good way to get better and push your team building, as a new player. Just don't get discouraged to see everyone else clearing 15000 every week, or try to set parameters so high you stop enjoying the game

[rain turret]

Im trying to poison stall kahili,but her salamence inflicting poison back is annoying and it hits flamethrower burn way more than it should

I did it with rose,hop and arcanine girl(forgot her name),but only doing 2700 instead of 3k

with ground trio(courtney,maxie and nita), R3 is a joke

[versed meteor]

Didn't know jawlock dps had 20k in it

[dense birch]

Thanks, I will try it out later in the day. It’s good to know the major rewards are quite accessible then

[manic mica]

I keep losing to sides on rock weak grragh

Im using Brendan, Adaman and Lyra, all 1/5 except Lyra who is 4/5

Lyra and Adaman are ex'd

[lunar meadow]

so you are using all grass types against the fights?

i assume you dont have a rock type?

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to run a monotype team, you might find that a different Support will improve the team

[manic mica]

Yes, I previously tried with Paulo, Gordie and Sonia, all 1/5 except Sonia who is 2/5

[lunar meadow]

ya, meganium would be terrible in that team.

sceptile and adaman dont need the offensive stat buffing that badly

[north crown]

Literally cap. Bro had to pull Roark at somepoint

[mellow linden]

Do you have a 2/5+ Olivia or a fully gridded Roark?

[lunar meadow]

a support that has better bulk and buffs its allies defense might help you better

[manic mica]

My Roark is 5/5 but uninvested, I don't own Olivia

[mellow linden]

Can you get Roark to at least 4-star potential and fully grid him?

[manic mica]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Can try on-typing with him + Paulo + an Attack + crit Support, maybe

[manic mica]

Alr

[dense birch]

Thanks for the suggestion about the 850 preset. I managed to beat master mode with a bit more over 4250 expected points. I ended up having to play around with more points on Hala and less points on Kahili because I couldn’t beat Kahili with the 850 preset

[lunar meadow]

Congrats!

If you feel confident, you can reset and do the fights going for extra points

[dense birch]

probably not haha. i am feeling mentally taxed already

[manic mica]

CSMM 1500 pts is easy
-A guy with 6 master fairs

[dreamy sigil]

I only have one but I got it un 2 multis so I'm happy

[manic mica]

Good for you

[dreamy sigil]

Hoping I don't struggle too much with master mode next week

[silver dirge]

1500 points is easy, most of those points are free - i.e. don't change the difficulty You don't need MFs to do em. Check out #1011675077764456519 for some inspiration

[dreamy sigil]

Nope not next week I forgot how mm works

I should be able to fill out the 7 types i have left next week tho

[paper summit]

you can reset the same week you unlock it

[rich needle]

it only gets hard around the 2500 range

[shrewd latch]

is it possible to clear the hard stages for alola cs with only these?

[main lake]

are those the move levels?

[mellow linden]

You can probably build a team around:

• Masked Royal for Acerola.
• Giovanni/Cyrus/Ghetsis for Olivia or Kahili (pick one of the 3 for each fight).
• Blue for Hala.
• NC Serena for Kukui.

And be fine. Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines, and try to include 9-12 different types across your 5 teams for type medal purposes

[mortal pine]

I did CSMM 3k without much help, was actually kinda easy except for the last two rounds before champion

[nocturne pawn]

using ss brock for 3k is certainly fun (not)

[mortal pine]

I have no good rock types lmao

[old orchid]

Roark is coughing

[manic mica]

Roark the suicide bomb

Seriously speaking is his most viable usage sync nuke and hs 1 guy and die?

[old orchid]

Just feed him some Potion

[manic mica]

Oh

[north crown]

offtype:

[zealous karma]

Roark has a pretty easy on type

[zealous karma]

I feel like Roark with standfast 13 shouldn’t be dying in one shot I’ve used him a lot and as long as you have potion support like gakon said he survives the entire match

[odd shore]

Sad that they’ll probably never buff Roark just because he’s a 3 star

That everyone has

And don’t have to spend money to get

If he had his grid at launch with all the steadfast he could’ve been good for a time

But by the time sync grids were added everything had so much HP

[nocturne pawn]

hes still pretty good lol

[tired sleet]

Yeah he can pretty easily beat rock weak cs unless you take HP params

[mellow linden]

He’s good now tho

He’s pretty close in Sync Move damage to Olivia (and Olivia’s Sync nuke is great) while handily beating her in regular move damage

[rotund lagoon]

He technically did get a boost. His grid addition from a number of months ago.

[lost gulch]

anyone tried offtyping with viola

[lunar meadow]

How do you find pins with this stupid new layout

[knotty storm]

Fr how to check pins on new discorf

[nocturne pawn]

tap on thread name settings pinned messages

[keen jasper]

Channel Name ---> Settings ---> Pinned

[lunar meadow]

That's annoying as fuck

Thanks

[knotty storm]

Thanks i found it

[rain turret]

is this good enough for water stadium?

[keen jasper]

I think that's fine

[silver dirge]

you've got some great options there, plus off-typing or poison stall is always an option too

[rain turret]

true,I have zerena 3/5 exd with her role and nc red 2/5 in the same conditions

[twin field]

Im keen to do a little champion stadium even tho im still pretty early game - was wondering if anyone would be able to help me understand who to raise and how to teambuild for it? I can start by sharing all my units if that helps?

[rotund lagoon]

Start with hard mode to fill the medal. Teambuilding guide is in #1010307000346878062 , and as long as you follow that, you’ll be fine.

[north crown]

yeah sharing ur roster helps helpers a lot

[twin field]

Tracker easiest for that or?

[north crown]

yeah tracker is better for sharing purposes

[twin field]

This is pretty up to date, i havent bothered with sync level with most but all the units are there

[manic mica]

LETS GOOO

Thanks for the help on the rock weak clear all

[thin pecan]

How are you suppose to be kali this week

[manic mica]

By what I heard, Roark

I didn't screenshot the clear

[old orchid]

we cant really help you without seeing your pairs

[silver dirge]

Also do you mean the rotation ending this reset or the new one starting?

[old orchid]

and why do you want to be Kali?

[manic mica]

We don't talk about that here

[thin pecan]

Is she bugged or something

She’s doing way too much damage and barely taking any

[old orchid]

probably parameter issue

[silver dirge]

That sounds very much like a team or param issue

[thin pecan]

I’m using special on her

[silver dirge]

What's the team & can you screenshot your params?

[thin pecan]

Idk what team to even use here

And I’m using the pre sync and post sync builds

[silver dirge]

It'll help if we can see the actual params & team because they still need to be adjusted for the comp at hand. Without any knowledge of what you're using/have available there's not a lot we can suggest

[thin pecan]

I mean won’t I need the team first then to setup up the parameters

[silver dirge]

I would like to see what you're currently trying so we can diagnose from there

[silver dirge]

^

[thin pecan]

I don’t know what I’m supposed to be trying lol

That’s the issue.

Special and physical teams both sucked

[silver dirge]

Alright well at least send your roster so we can see what you've got, otherwise it'll be shooting in the dark. And again, it may have been a parameter/teambuilding issue so it would still help to see what those teams were - special/physical tells us nothing. But just send your roster you don't have a lot of time

[keen jasper]

Only 1 good parameter this week

[manic mica]

Seeing water cs gave me flashbacks

[manic mica]

Great, I cleared water but now Im stuck at electric ;-;

Team is LT Surge, Volkner and N

Volkner is 3/5 and everyone else is 1/5 but I can get everyone to 3/5

[silver dirge]

Don't candy N for Elec weak CSMM

3/5 isn't hugely beneficial either. Can you send your params?

[old orchid]

Just to be sure, this is BP alt of Surge right

[manic mica]

Yes

Here are my params

[old orchid]

Dont pick Def up params

[keen jasper]

What the hell kind of parameters are those?

[silver dirge]

Have you had a look at the sample params in the pins?

[keen jasper]

I'm surprised your were able to clear stages with defense up parameters

[silver dirge]

Defense is a huge no for pre-sync

[old orchid]

I suggest giving the pinned guide a read

[manic mica]

no

Ok

[keen jasper]

Or make your own without the defensive parameters

Which is what I mostly do on my 4k pts. clears

[old orchid]

They are new to CSMM, so at least they should read the guide

Thats not a helpful advice from you

[keen jasper]

Ok

[silver dirge]

Don't be overwhelmed with all the info, if there's anything you'd like clarification on feel free to ask. The first link should have presets for lower points, I'd suggest starting there & getting an understanding of how the parameters work. Then you can slowly adjust them for higher points as you go

[manic mica]

Im a bit worried walking into 2.5k csmm

[silver dirge]

That's okay, if you're new we strongly recommend starting at lower points anyway

You can get all crucial rewards at around 4.2k total points

[sharp willow]

yeah, i'd say like, 15k is nice but you can go for 7.5k and probably get everything you care about. 4.2k gets you a bunch of the power up tickets and the candy coin which is the most valuable reward in there

[manic mica]

Alr I cleared it thanks all

1.5k pts like how I usually do it

[north crown]

sorry I forgot to tell you about it, however I did forgoet to do "yesterday's" too, so I'll teambuild for the both of us... now.

[verbal karma]

wrecking my head about which E4 member to use the R4 gimmick on

considering I can make use of the R4 gimmick on ALL of them

but have to choose between one of the four

[north crown]

that was the first time I forgot to do a CS week

@twin field Actually before we do, are you doing hard or master mode?

[silver dirge]

Just going to reiterate some of the things we always point out to you regarding round params:

• None of the Alola E4 use WTZ, so the R4 gimmick does not help them in any way
• The permanent field effect is just an added benefit for your team, it does not mean WTZ teams can only be used when you've got access to permanent field effects

Considering the above, you shouldn't be worried about which stage you're going to use it on, just put a team on that round which makes use of field effects - any team, it does not matter which. Remember not to waste unnecessary time & energy on round parameters

[trail smelt]

Discharge paralysis hax Hau returns

Had to reset once

Ready for next week though I’m dumping NY Sabrina for NC Rosa haha

[twin field]

Hard

[undone ether]

man. i really wanted to use Ash against Acerola 😭

[silver dirge]

So use him

[undone ether]

i opted for SST Red for Round 3. ;<

The Hau fight was basically just Paralyze Wars. Thankfully i managed to luck flinches in

[swift swan]

...so.

I forgot today is a Monday

Let me update the params

[manic mica]

Perfect team to beat Hau

[undone ether]

something like this?

[swift swan]

Updated

[manic mica]

Idgaf about which support to use since Im gonna give SS Morty Lithe and waste lucky cookies lmfao

[rain turret]

who's a good support option for bea to fight molaine?

[old orchid]

a defense buffer

[rain turret]

ss blue then, ok

[manic mica]

That said doesn't she need someone to complete speed and attack?

Alright, happily got CSMM done this week.

[manic mica]

Also ye

My first 15k... Now to try to consistently keep that up

[silver dirge]

Depending on Blue's move level he does have Team Fierce Entry which he can proc twice if you go for suppEX, as well as Team Shout. But yeah, someone like Sonia or Aaron would be more ideal

Hop is free, there's Shauna as well

[full mesa]

Not really. I used her with +2 att/spd, +3 crit from grid and fighting terrain. Was able to pre sync on 3k

[manic mica]

Isn't the only fighting zone user SSA Cynthia?

[silver dirge]

NC Hop

[manic mica]

Oh right

[full mesa]

But I didn't use supp ex

[silver dirge]

But yeah, MF-gated

[manic mica]

Yeah those two

[full mesa]

She was there for defenses buffs and zone.

That's all

Cobalion did more in the fight that she

Def drops, perma mga

[manic mica]

SSA Cynthia very nice

Just brought SS Ace, Bea, and SSA Cynthia and took care of Molayne

[twin field]

Could i please have some help for champion stadium, i dont really know who to use

Dunno if im wasting units and such

[manic mica]

Which stage?

[twin field]

Well tbh all of them, i just need to make a start lol

[silver dirge]

Hard mode yea? Can you send your roster?

[twin field]

Ye hard mode

[silver dirge]

Ideally via the tracker, but screenshots are fine too

[twin field]

I do have tracker but sync move levels arent correct so screenshots are probably easier

Actually i cbf, ill send tracker, its mostly up to date unit wise

Just assume ive got all leg adventure

Bc i have lol

[silver dirge]

• Ash + tank filler + filler vs Acerola
• SC Diantha + Liza + filler vs Molayne
• NC Serena + May + Sabrina vs Olivia
• (Offtype) SST Red + 2 fillers vs Kahilj
• SS Hilbert + Special Support + Filler vs Hau

Should be very breezy, you've got some of the best ontype options for most stages. Make sure you're triple queuing & syncing on-time, check #1010307000346878062 for a guide on that as well as a basic teambuilding guide

Wherever I've written "filler" just means bring in a random unit to fill a type in the medal

[lunar meadow]

Got enough field effects?

[rain turret]

I need help with acerola

[silver dirge]

Elesa + Volkner + Hilbert should do the trick

Tbf you've got Nemona as well

[rain turret]

already used her

[silver dirge]

Ah

[silver dirge]

Do you have 3/5 Hilbert?

[rain turret]

yes

[zealous ginkgo]

Phy Dmg Reduction 50
Spe Dmg Reduction 50
Atk & Sp. Atk ^1 50
Def & Sp. Def ^1 50
Strike x3 Damage 50
Strength ^1 100
Sync Buff ^5 100
Ally Healing Down5 100
Power ^ on Hit 1 100
Phy Dmg Reduction 8 100
Gradual Healing 150
Strength ^2 200
Max Hp ^4 200
Power ^ on Hit 2 200
Max Sync countdown ^2 200
Ally Move Gauge Max -2 300
Standard Dmg Red 8 300
Strength ^6 600
@manic mica

Wait im missing smth

[old orchid]

that team is screaming for gauge

you dont need to do monotype

bring someone like Marley who has speed buffs and status condition shield

[mortal pine]

so this CSMM is kinda difficult for me, round 1 i got like 1400 ontyping with NC Red but the rest of the types i don't have many exceptionally good sync pairs

[silver dirge]

Idt they need help, carried convo from lounge I believe

[old orchid]

i just realized too

helper habit smh

[silver dirge]

When the helper helping

[zealous ginkgo]

Who needs Gauge if i kill them first

[old orchid]

can you show your roster?

[mortal pine]

lemme get the site up i don't like screenshotting on mobile it takes too long

limiteds

and everything

[old orchid]

you should use the separators and separate your roster by roles

[mortal pine]

ok

[old orchid]

we dont need to know about limiteds

[twin field]

Liza+lunatone i assume ur referring to? They dont have ex initially but i assume they are pretty strong?

[silver dirge]

She's not the best support by far, but it's hard mode so it shouldn't be an issue - I just put her there to top off SC Diantha's spAtk. She'll breeze through

[twin field]

But im not wasting level up mats by getting her to 120?

[silver dirge]

You can sub in for any other tank

[twin field]

Im not tight on them or anything but was just wondering

[silver dirge]

XP books shouldn't be too hard to top up, just make sure you've set up Trainer Lodge expeditions for passive income (not just for XP books, it gives you a lot of different resources)

But do stop levelling your units beyond 120-125, the resource curve gets quite harsh from there on for a new player

[knotty storm]

Hello i am looking to start the jump from 2k5 to 3k point this week

So i am looking for ideas of comps and maybe parameters

[old orchid]

for parameters,

[knotty storm]

I think Rei/colress/shanna can work for fighting weak

For bug i think viola +burgh and penny should work fine

[old orchid]

i would pick 5 dmg dealers for each stage first, then start adding allies to their team

yes, like that

dont use Viola if you are not stalling, also that team doesnt have paralysis immunity

the pins also have detail on each stage

[knotty storm]

5 Dd per stage and dont use viola unless i stall

[silver dirge]

not anymore

[old orchid]

i mean the pomatools link smh

[knotty storm]

I dont have 5 fighting Dd tho

I have rei and bea

[old orchid]

Rei is enough for Molayne

you dont need 5 Fighting DDs for each stage

[knotty storm]

I dont understand then, or maybe you meant 1 dd per stage

[old orchid]

thats the point

[knotty storm]

And build around thode

Those

So Rei for fighting/Serena gets water/ Electric off type zerena / and Ice get ghetis / Bug gets burgh

And build around those cores

[old orchid]

Elesa is solid ontype

[knotty storm]

Elesa as striker ? She keeps on dying on first sync with recoil damage

[old orchid]

grid her

[knotty storm]

I did i used the sync guide

[knotty storm]

Could those team work?

[steel kelp]

What is calem doing

[old orchid]

i would use a defensive support instead of Calem yeah

Elesa handles offensive buffing on her own

and Burgh's team doesnt have paralysis immunity

[knotty storm]

OK

How do i get team paralysis immunity

[old orchid]

bring someone who has status shield/curing status

Marley is a good option

especially with R4 parameter which makes her shield permanent

[knotty storm]

Alright

Melony instead of calem?

And use calem with nc serena

Instead of blastoise

[old orchid]

nah i would use her in Burgh's team

she is the better version of Marley

[knotty storm]

Mmh maybe blue can go there

[old orchid]

Hop works with Elesa for extra healing and faster buffing

[knotty storm]

Hop is 130

Is it enough?

[steel kelp]

Doesn’t matter

[knotty storm]

And i Never got the update

[steel kelp]

He’s fine without power boost

[knotty storm]

Like this?

[old orchid]

yes

[knotty storm]

Everything should be presync

Focus middle

?

[old orchid]

all teams are capable of pre sync yeah

be careful with Hop, since he can ruin quad queue with his passive

R3 parameter also prevents quad queue

[knotty storm]

Is there an order you would suggest

I Was thinking rei should go third

And thx for the help

[old orchid]

you can do in any order, preferably fighting Acerola on R3 because she uses special moves mostly

[twin field]

I got 11/18 and finished, not bad for a first time, ill need to raise a few more units to do better

[dreamy sigil]

Is anabel/noland/looker capable of beating hard mode hau with the infinite field effects parameters?

[mellow linden]

I assume regular Noland with Pinsir and not V. Noland with Ninjask?

[north crown]

how many types are on your type medal?

[north crown]

oh waitaminute nvm looks like u alr got some help

ig I can ask if you are having any problems

[twin field]

11 rn, i could probs improve it but id need to raise some more units

[north crown]

mind showing me a screenshot of the type medal?

us*

[silver dirge]

You can't reset on hard mode, so you're going to have to wait til next week btw

11 is really good, you should be able to complete it in the next rotation & reset the same week for master mode

[twin field]

pog

[north crown]

oh nvm sounds like u alr completed this week's cs

I still want to make up for my delay, so can u pls show me your type medal @twin field?

I'll plan for next week

[rotund lagoon]

Isn’t it better if they learn themselves?

[silver dirge]

Yea they should be able to get a hang of it quickly, seems like they breezed through it today

[rotund lagoon]

We have tons of resources they can check for refreshers, too.

[silver dirge]

& this chat isn't going anywhere, they can ask for help whenever

[north crown]

now I just feel bad

[silver dirge]

Why so

[twin field]

dont feel bad lol, i got some help

and it is better if i learn myself but i do appreciate being given a starting point, its helped me get the hang of what units are good for certain things

[silver dirge]

Yea np at all, feel free to ask at your own pace if you ever need pointers

[north crown]

hm... I think I can carry them in LG
ping me anytime in #1012311116778586182, as I'm always there!

[dreamy sigil]

Yes regular noland

[mellow linden]

Maybe replace Looker with a crit buffer if you can so that Noland’s crit rate can be maxed

[dreamy sigil]

sobs cuz I need a poison pair for the hall of fame and it's become apparent to me that I've made some poor team-building decisions

[north crown]

what rounds and types do you have left?

[formal vigil]

If you have Lodge gladion he buff crit and poison

Or replace anabel with leaf evee if 3/5 since buffs both attack and crit

[steel kelp]

Leaf is only a self buffer

Excluding sync

[rich needle]

no?

[formal vigil]

No with recent powerboost she buffs attack crit spak too with tm

[rotund lagoon]

User’s Atk only on TM

She can buff Crit for everyone else by grid (and Sp Atk for all if gridded)

[formal vigil]

No she has all ramped up and berserker 1

[rich needle]

she do +1 to both offense

per use

for all

and also +2 attack for her because it matters

[steel kelp]

+1

[rich needle]

rounds out to +4 by sync move

pretty good

[rotund lagoon]

This is assuming they are gridded, which idk if they do.

But that’s getting off topic for rn.

[mellow linden]

@dreamy sigil can you grid Critical Eye on Noland?

And do you have BP Janine (Janine + Crobat)?

+2 crit isn’t the most ideal, but it’ll probably work for Hard Mode and BP Janine + Anabel can handle Attack buffs

Grid Noland’s Inertia while you’re at it if possible so he can have a stronger Sync

[dreamy sigil]

Just hau, and only bug and poison

I can grid noland but I don't have BP janine

[mellow linden]

Wait, only Bug and Poison are left, you don’t need Normal?

Because if that’s the case just switch Anabel for a different Support

[rich needle]

where be thy units

[north crown]

or just get sycamore

[mellow linden]

Sycamore’s Attack buffs are too unreliable for Noland

[rotund lagoon]

Also very minimal

[mellow linden]

This is definitely a “show us all your Supports” situation

[north crown]

I meant as in solo carry

[mellow linden]

Let’s maybe stick with more newbie-friendly stuff for now

[north crown]

Sycamore is newb friendly

[dreamy sigil]

Yeah I'll ss the supports I have left

The one(or 2) that I know I have left is/are Sonia and hop

[rotund lagoon]

Not for solo? That just sounds like LG.

[dreamy sigil]

But she's 1/5

[mellow linden]

I guess damage-dealer Sycamore is a possible alternative if things go really poorly, but for now Hop as the Support will work fine

[north crown]

ok Hop carries

[mellow linden]

Grab his Trainer Move MP Refresh tile from grid and restart the fight if his MP Refresh doesn’t happen, can just do Hop + Noland + random Poison since you don’t need a Normal type

[dreamy sigil]

OK I do have hop left

What do I grid on noland?

[mellow linden]

Since you have Hop you can likely get away with gridless Noland, but if you can spare the Sync Orbs grabbing Inertia (use Noland’s Trainer Move twice as his 1st two actions if you do that) and Furious Brawn will help

[dreamy sigil]

Alright, got it

[dreamy sigil]

Koga mention, you guys are a blessing

Noland did 10k to the right side on his second sync

Big number make brain happy

Now onto master mode

[rain turret]

Im trying,but after finishing drifblim, one of the frillish's surf kills the team

I did it with N instead of elesa

[dreamy sigil]

Can you select the same master mode params multiple times for multiple fights

[rich needle]

yis?

liek if i select screens

i can select screens all the time

[dreamy sigil]

So like having opp sync CD -1 for let's say all the e4

Is that possible?

[steel kelp]

Yes

[dreamy sigil]

Okay, and the minimum for each fight is/should be 840 points to get all the 4.2k rewards right?

[knotty storm]

I cant go through acerola

Using hop elesa and egg jolteon

[rain turret]

Im having troubles with hau

[silver dirge]

Correct, have a look at the pins for presets if you haven't already - just remember to adjust for your team

[silver dirge]

Hard mode or master mode?

[rain turret]

Im using off-type presets since Im trying to beat him with zerena

I dont have good bugs

but his sync kills everyone in one go

[knotty storm]

3000 pts

Master mode

[silver dirge]

If you've got too much bulk, lower move level non EXR Zerena may struggle to pre-sync since she's AoE with penalty but I'm not sure of the specifics of your params/team/gameplay so it's hard to tell. You could always try poison stall

[silver dirge]

Do you have 3/5 Hilbert?

[knotty storm]

Yes

[silver dirge]

Hilbert's great with Elesa since he buffs her speed (Inerta) on top of the quick offensive buffing. Try him instead, and can you send your params?

[knotty storm]

Sure give me a sec

[silver dirge]

Is Elesa also 3/5?

[knotty storm]

5/5

[silver dirge]

Okay sweet

[knotty storm]

Not exed

[silver dirge]

That's fine

[silver dirge]

Yeah, Elesa is your best elec DPS & she's great - you've gridded all the important tiles?

If you can ss your parameters in-game that would be helpful as well

[silver dirge]

you've got Jolteon for E-Terrain but have the No WTZ param picked up, drop that.

[knotty storm]

Oops That Was the param for fighting

[silver dirge]

Pick up Atk 5 & Atk 3, drop some strength

Make sure Hilbert has Crit Squad 2 & Endurance on his grid, Shielded 1 may help as well

[knotty storm]

Its tech damage by 3

And ally healing

Instead

And i do acerola R3

[silver dirge]

Ally Healing Down & Tech x3 damage should both be picked up yeah

Try it with the updated params + Hilbert, if survivability is an issue you can grid Hilbert for Aggravation on Waterfall and fish for some flinches too (You would drop Interference immunity in that case)

[knotty storm]

Alright

I ll come back and tell you how i did in a mn

[silver dirge]

The grid looks good

[knotty storm]

Should i reset until i para first spark?

[lunar meadow]

Good afternoon, everyone!

[silver dirge]

Shouldn't be necessary tbh but if you want

[long thicket]

Wow, Rei just slaughters Molayne's stage...

At 2k at least.

Hop didn't even get the opportunity to contribute damage wise outside of zone.

[knotty storm]

Hilbert cant tank it

Smh

Ill check the grid

[silver dirge]

Yea he is a 'lil frail, you could either reset for weaker moves, or fish for flinches. Or a combination of both

[knotty storm]

I cant even poison stall her because she gets gradual healing

[rain turret]

which parameters should I add to poison stall preset to get 3k?

[lunar meadow]

@long thicket
The power of angry birds is great.

[rotund lagoon]

It’s in the pins. Scroll down to the 3k tips

[lunar meadow]

Add health, add defense, add crit immunity.

Do NOT add "power on hit", or "status immunity".
If you want to use a debuffer (like venom drench) do not add "immune to debuffs"

[rich needle]

no 3k?

[dreamy sigil]

What do the check marks mean in the presets pins?

[zealous karma]

Rei does this against off type 3k even at 1/5 hes quite broken

[long thicket]

3k's a thing?

Oh wait, right...

I'm doing 2.5k, not 2k.

[dreamy sigil]

Oh I get it now

And now I can just team build for each fight without having to worry about using a pair for each type right? At least with alola

[mellow linden]

Yep, no type restrictions on the teams for Master Mode, so focus on making sure you build a strong team around your chosen damage-dealer

[rain turret]

maybe Im messing up something,by the time raichu's dead, alakazam and obstagoon are still almost full health

Im using lucy, oleana and morty(mismagius)

[mellow linden]

That’s normal for Poison stall, the center gets more actions than the sides overall until they go down

[peak stirrup]

Should I use special vs Hau?

I’ve gotten close a couple times using physical

[mellow linden]

Hau doesn’t take more damage from either category, just use your strongest team since it’s the champion fight

[peak stirrup]

Been using SS Acerola and the bug bros. I’ll try a couple more times and see if the RNG is in my favor.

[fringe mango]

Is there a 3k point condition?

[mellow linden]

If you’re struggling with SS Acerola + SC Ingo and SC Emmet then it’s far more likely to be a parameter issue

[zealous karma]

ye its the current max point not that its required

[mellow linden]

There should be a low amount of RNG involved with how much damage that team should put out

[rain turret]

I need a build for mismagius,I tried synchro healing,full tank,but it keeps taking too much dmg

[mellow linden]

What are the parameters you’re running?

[peak stirrup]

Sides need 2 mega horns each even under bug zone

[rain turret]

one moment

[mellow linden]

That shouldn’t be a big problem unless you’re letting the opponent Sync

[peak stirrup]

I’m not. Mid dies easy
Like 8PMUN and SEUN

[fringe mango]

Its a little confusing

[mellow linden]

Is SC Emmet EX?

[peak stirrup]

No. Syncing with Acerola

Emmet is 1/5 so zero sync

[mellow linden]

Rising Tide at 1/5

Innate passive

[peak stirrup]

I have the candies to bump to 3 if I wanted to
18 strike candies

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t need it

[rain turret]

Physical Dmg Reduction 50
Special Dmg Reduciton 50
Def/Sp Def 1 50
Strike Pairs Takes x3 Dmg 50
Strength 1 100
Sync Buff 5 100
Def/Sp Def 3 100
Max HP 2 100
Five Stats 3 100
Physical Dmg Reduction 8 100
Special Dmg Reduciton 8 100
Gradual Healing 150
Crit def 150
Def/Sp Def 5 150
No Zone/Weather/Terrain 150
Max HP 4 200
Ally gauge -2 300
Max HP 6 300
Standard Dmg reduction 300
Max HP 8 400

[mellow linden]

If you’re Syncing with SS Acerola twice currently try doing the 2nd Sync with one of the SC Subway Bros instead, can even target a side with it

[peak stirrup]

Only being able to sync once. Acerola is dying way too fast even at 3/5 EX

[mellow linden]

Oh, then try switching the Support to a different Attack + crit buffer

[peak stirrup]

Hilbert would be worse and already used Sonia. Neither gives PMUN

[mellow linden]

Try replacing Sync Buff ^ and Five Stats ^ with Strength ^ 2 and see if that helps any

[mellow linden]

Alright, let’s change gears here then. What parameters are you running rn?

[peak stirrup]

Phys Dmg Reduction
Spec Dmg Reduction
Atk +1
No Status
Str +1
Sync Buff +
Atk +3
Ally Heal -5
Power +1
Sp Dmg -8
Heal at start
Atk +5
Str +2
Power +2
Str +3
MG -2
Standard Dmg 8
Str +6

[mellow linden]

It basically means there’s no “one size fits all”, just pick a 2.5k preset and adjust based on your playstyle and team

[mellow linden]

Since you’re not having trouble with damage output, but with survival, you could try switching some offensive parameters/Strength out with a bit of Max HP

Heck, you could try grabbing the 2.5k post-Sync params and making up the difference with Max HP params and see how that goes, the team might be able to pull it off

[rain turret]

I got lucky with potion refreshs

[rotund lagoon]

Remember #1010274591601598555 exists, you can make a post there

[calm grove]

sorry i know i should be using like a dex website but im just getting back into the game and wanna wait til i have time to use my computer to get it done faster

i've got a acerola hau and kahili left

i'm thinking just off type with the first two and is the last team good enough for hau

[mellow linden]

For future reference, screenshots are best done from the Move Level menu.

If this is Hard Mode, you can build a team around Ghetsis for Kahili and Hau for Acerola and be fine, and your Alder team will be fine as long as gauge management isn’t an issue.

If it’s Master Mode some more in-depth stuff will be required

Also, if it’s Hard Mode make sure you’re finishing up your type medal

[odd shore]

I thought I was stupid to even think Eternatus would work after several tries with various supports in his place, but the sync move ramp and the extra damage from Eternabeam did it

[rain turret]

sorry

[dreamy sigil]

Having trouble with the small child, these are my parameters(plus physical reduction 8 since hau's a special strike pair) and my team(my electric roster is pitiful and that's being generous)

[odd shore]

Join the club, perhaps my strongest electric sync pair would be ZekroN but he’s only 1/5 and not even EXed

[dark osprey]

Acerola has higher special defense this week and it would be easier if you have a physical electric unit or could poison stall/offtype with a physical unit

Elesa or BP sophocles are some accessible options

[calm grove]

will an exed 2/5 marnie be able to nuke 3k acerola?

cus ill have enough to ex by tomorrow but if it wont be enough ima use it on serena

[dark osprey]

Serena as in NC Serena?

If so, her dark type sync nuke may be good offtype option

Marnie has a decent sync but her electric dps is kinda meh

[wicked pebble]

Which is best against Hau, physical or special?

[old orchid]

He doesnt have Entry gimmick, so just use your strongest dmg dealer there

[wicked pebble]

k.

[noble plaza]

Anyone I should save or avoid on certain rounds?

[dreamy sigil]

would you guys say mc and solagleo is strong enough to off type acerola? given these parameters but special reduction 8 instead of physical and possibly changing out the standard reduction 8

Tried it out after messing with params a bit and I did it

And my first csmm run is complete, beat hau with hop/noland/neo calem

[cold kestrel]

So close to completing my second cs, after this I’ll have all types. I just need to wait for more energy so I can get more level up books

[undone ether]

You can farm books in the coop gear event.

[vestal echo]

Managed my first 15k run This week. Is This categorized as one of the easiere stadiums or?

[paper summit]

it's kinda in the middle, not braindead easy as Kanto and such but not as gimmicky as Sinnoh, Kalos and Hoenn, and pls consider using #1010274591601598555

[old orchid]

take care of your thread first Odin

[paper summit]

pfft, that thing is forever collecting dust

[old orchid]

[odd shore]

Man I was all ready to murder Hau with Leon and his Charizard, but I failed to realized Leon’s Charizard is weak to Hau’s electric attacks

And now I’m screwed

[manic mica]

I mean Hau's not fire weak anyway

Any bug types?

[silver dirge]

Off-typing is fine

[manic mica]

Also grats on Lucas getting rising star role

[silver dirge]

You can give it a shot regardless, see if you can survive an AoE or two. Otherwise could always do some flinching/denial to avoid those discharges

[odd shore]

lol I just noticed that… only took me being almost banned for it to happen

[odd shore]

I just liked demolishing Olivia offtype with my Leon, Melony, Mo-Oh team last week

With the infinite field effects parameter

Making aura veil, safeguard, gauge ramp, and sunlight last forever

A boosted master passive and Morty’s sunlight team heal passive

Makes the team super tanky while being able to dish out hot fire damage

[rain turret]

I did 3k on her with EXd N zekrom

[zealous karma]

What are the move levels on this team I use it a quite a lot myself and I rarely have to post sync with it (unless I miss a QQ)

Then again I do have them all 5/5 exr

[zealous karma]

But even before the exrole I was able to off type with them

[onyx ice]

This week was a good test for harder Cs since hau had increased bulk, and bug is by far my worse type

[tired sleet]

You have 5/5 spburgh

[zealous karma]

No but i have 3/5 Brendan

[rose ermine]

Do I hit em with the max rebuff nuke

[lunar meadow]

Can you get -3 rebuff?

I thought Genesect only did -2

Wouldn't you need Stoutland and Genesect for -3

[paper summit]

yes, Hilbert is only 2

[sharp willow]

yeah

though tbf the 3rd rebuff barely does anything anyway

[rich needle]

It’s still inaccurate 🤓

[cold kestrel]

Finally

Anyways my units aren’t strong enough so I don’t think I’ll do master mode

[rotund lagoon]

If you try like 850 points per match at first, it’s not much different.

[tired sleet]

You don’t have to start from max points
Try minimal points with this guide #1009554906568462476 message

[cold kestrel]

Alright then, should I just use the same teams I used for hard mode aswell?

[old orchid]

You want to build teams again, because some teams might not be able to clear MM

[crystal notch]

What's the recommended order for this week's CS?

Also, should I overkill with irida + sneasel or just do the standard ghetsis f2p option

For ice weak

[paper summit]

I mean, you can do whatever you want

and there is no such thing as recommended order, like, ever, only maybe avoid a certain E4 with a particular round parameter and even then it doesn't matter all that much

[crystal notch]

Sure, are there no E4s to avoid with the parameters this time around?

[swift swan]

oh hey arts, it's been a while

the params this week are pretty free

just remember R3 parameter will mess up your quadqueue window

[crystal notch]

yep it is! nice to be back sad to have missed silver and sycamore and hop ex

[crystal notch]

understood

[twin field]

I need a bit of a hand planning for next week, i need to cover these types

[silver dirge]

You can see next week's typings in the pinned infographic. Choose a damage dealer for each stage, then a support to help setup whatever they need. The remaining slot can be a filler to get an unused type in

You can draft something up and post here to get some feedback

[twin field]

struggling with fairy damage dealer

[silver dirge]

You've got 3/5 SS Wally he should breeze through hard mode

[twin field]

was thinking erika for grass?

how good is victini in terms of psychic or is it more of a fire thing

it looks like secondary typing so

[silver dirge]

Non existent for psychic, if you look at the kit the only psychic move she has is Confusion

Which does effectively nothing apart from, well, confusing them

[twin field]

o damn

caitlin and reuniclus for psychic damage?

might just have to offtype ghost

can use MC and Solgaleo for steel i think

so far for damage dealers:

Hala: SS Wally & Gardevoir
Olivia: MC & Solgaleo
Acerola: Off-type someone
Kahili: Caitlin & Reuniclus
Kukui: SS Erika & Leafeon

that look ok for damage dealers?

[silver dirge]

Yup, looks good so far

3/5 Fantina's pretty good for on-type Ghost, so is Shauntal. Give one of them a try

[twin field]

does erika need someone to enable her or no

[silver dirge]

She can set herself up, but would really like someone to set the sun for her so she doesn't need to juggle that as well

Blaine works

[cold kestrel]

Is there any teams for master mode i could do?

[full mesa]

In general pick an on type striker and use supports to help it.
Otherwise aim for poison stall.

Fighting: Sonia/Bea/Cobalion
Water: Mistyduck/Cyrus/Winona
Bug: Eevee/Janine/Koga (poison stall, grid Eevee to get HP back after sync)
Elec: Roxane/Clemont/Luxray
Ice: Ghetsis/Irida/Skyla

Those team can easily do 1.5k probably 2k too.

[lunar meadow]

Does the electric team have crit?

I think Heliolisk can get "sure crit" for his sync moves, but not in general for the fight

Other than that, I'd swap Koga for Seviper. Same thing, but Seviper adds "wrap" for more turn based damage.

[full mesa]

It's more of a semi-stall/hit hard with terrain team.

[full mesa]

Didn't even so her. Yeah. Lucy is a the better option. Tankier too.

You can do Hop/Roxane/Clemont for crit. And some potions.

[lunar meadow]

Seviper/Ariados was a basis of many free stall teams 😉

[full mesa]

I had SSLeaf so there's that.

[lunar meadow]

I once did a full 5x stall week. I can't remember if it was during 10k or 12.5k point cap. Either way, it suuuucked.

Venusaur/Starmie/Ariados was my ollllld stall team. From back when 7.5k points was the cap

[rich needle]

I still use venausar aria and any recuperation user

[lunar meadow]

@full mesa
3/10, only recommend if you are bored AF and the weekly fight parameters are amenable to it

[full mesa]

Nah. I've passed that phase. Now I'm waiting Sinnoh/Kalos/Hoenn for 3k.

[white gale]

Just noticed Water CS is starting in a few hours! Looks like Rain will be pretty important. Just to confirm, the 1st 4 fights are just repeats from other CS and then Leaf is a new fight? Seems Flint and Malva are the harder of the 4

[old orchid]

Yup

[devout sluice]

Wait water? I thought was grass

[paper summit]

that's the HS event in January

[devout sluice]

I’ll try my best on getting 15k on it.

[trail smelt]

Still not sure which water team to use against which haha

[crystal notch]

water CS?! OOOO

is offtyping viable

[silver dirge]

Same as any other CS, so yea

I hope there's a half sync param today

[trail smelt]

You evil man LMAO

[crystal notch]

sneasel irida ncede

I could technically sync first turn with something like, mayziken ncede ss elesa?

[silver dirge]

-3, -2, -1 yeah you shave off two whole cycles

[crystal notch]

ye but at that point no one is properly setup

[silver dirge]

indeed

[crystal notch]

ngl tho

pomas is my first exposure to setting up stats

mainline pokemon childhood was just "use the most damaging move"

is it worth on typing with ss grimsley

[silver dirge]

Yea just bring Hilbert

[crystal notch]

or just nuke with offtype

[paper summit]

you do know those round parameters are set for special CS right?

[crystal notch]

EX? or no? mine's 3/5 but not EX

[silver dirge]

Oh

[paper summit]

look at the infographic, they are there already, there isn't a half sync param this time

[silver dirge]

Man

[silver dirge]

You'd be syncing with Grimsley so it should be fine

At least they gave us infinite field vs Leaf

[undone ether]

I hope we get infinite field effects for Malva 😭

[paper summit]

we don't... again, look at the pins people

[undone ether]

oh its in the sides.

[silver dirge]

Doesn't Malva only set sun on entry & sync anyways, if you pre-sync you shouldn't need infinite rain

[devout sluice]

Im just gonna toxic stall some rounds.

[silver dirge]

Damn Malva is not playing around with those Overheats even without sun

[devout sluice]

I need to go find a 11k parameter then.

Was so close to clearing but I’m softlock at 9k, even toxic stalling isn’t helping

[tulip python]

Just for the sake of type ease, theoretically this bunch should be decent enough for challenging this Neo champ stadium right?

[paper summit]

yes, besides you don't have to make monoteams for this

supports and such can be whatever

[devout sluice]

Gonna go skip the Omni coin. Decided to just clear just for the gems.

[noble plaza]

Anyone I should do or avoid for these rounds?

[silver dirge]

Don't give Flint or Malva powered up special moves (R2)

[paper summit]

tbh it's just do Olivia on round 2, Shauntal also uses special moves

[devout sluice]

Also look out for leaf, with sun she hits like a truck.

[manic kiln]

i did malva r2

[silver dirge]

Same, just realised

[manic kiln]

water is probably the easiest CS to ontype anyway
but the enemies also hit harder

[manic kiln]

may, dgloria, kris, cerena, lys
build 5 teams around those dps

[noble plaza]

Who should I use for which fights?

[manic kiln]

save the stronger dps/tank for the harder like malva, flint and leaf, you want rain for those round too
your roster is kinda underleveled tho so maybe do 7.5k-10k first

[trail smelt]

Woo that was fun!

But god DAMN Malva, Flint, and Shauntal were giving me a lot of trouble lol

I had to constantly dismantle and rebuild my preplanned teams to beat them

[trail smelt]

So who gave y’all the most trouble lol

[vestal echo]

idk what im doing wrong vs leaf. only water hitter i have left is Cyrus &palkia non exed. but his sync is doing like 200 dmg only

[old orchid]

Don't sync with him, focus on boosting his Hydro Pump

[vestal echo]

trying with blue zapdos & tapu fini

[old orchid]

With both op supports in his side, he has no trouble pre syncing

[vestal echo]

hm ok ima try with a hydro focused grid i guess then!

[hollow swan]

Malva rough

but

ss lyra flinches for fun

[vestal echo]

yeah hydro doesnt work enough, mb my params are bad. my fini is only 1/5 tho and not exed or 6*

[old orchid]

what params are you using?

i assume Blue is EX'd, is that correct?

[vestal echo]

yeah blue is ex and 3/5

[old orchid]

that's enough

[vestal echo]

i tried diff ones, stacking hp or str. and mix of all

[old orchid]

when you aim to pre sync, dont add too much hp and strength params

[vestal echo]

i tried special one with more special dmg, and one with more status conditions

[mild hatch]

I’m gonna wait for a F2P video to see what param to use

[old orchid]

check the pins here for 3k parameters guide

oh i forgot to ask, is Cyrus gridded with Ramming Speed?

[silver dirge]

If you have never attempted 2.5k+ CSMM before, don't jump straight into high points. Start at 850 (see pins) and gradually work your way up. Try & get an understanding of what the parameters do as well

[vestal echo]

no, no ramming speed. grid is not power boosted.

[silver dirge]

Hydro Pump: Ramming Speed is a non PB tile

[vestal echo]

ok i used the wrong grid of the two ones i see

i used crit focus 1

[silver dirge]

Your team is NC Blue, SS Mina & Cyrus?

Are either of the 2 supports EX'd?

[vestal echo]

blue is 3/5 exed

[silver dirge]

And you're making sure to sync with him first?

[vestal echo]

yes

[silver dirge]

Triple queuing consistently?

[vestal echo]

yes'

[silver dirge]

When do you use Mina's Rain Dances?

[vestal echo]

right away

as its permanent

[silver dirge]

Ah

This is vs Leaf?

[vestal echo]

yes

[silver dirge]

Can I see your NC Blue grid?

Also send the parameters you got closest with

[vestal echo]

i just finished it lul

[silver dirge]

Lol congrats

[vestal echo]

it helped with ramping speed on cyrus, did 15k attempt, tyvm

removed all hp str stacking, and only did the two highest ones to get enough pts.

[silver dirge]

Do you pick up all the Atk ⬆️ parameters?

[vestal echo]

almost all of them yeah, i think one was left

leaf did one shot blue hal fway through >_>

[silver dirge]

You should pick em all, supports like NC Blue can handle it - especially if you've got the offensive debuffs on his grid. You can also fish for some flinches early on so you don't get hit by a strong move before you've set up your defenses

[vestal echo]

but he did get one shot by leaf, i lacked one +atk param i think

[silver dirge]

Had you disabled sun?

[vestal echo]

it was shortly after his sync

[silver dirge]

Leaf's sync?

[vestal echo]

i think so yeah, i had fairy field + rain

[silver dirge]

or NC Blue

[vestal echo]

blues sync

[silver dirge]

You probably just didn't have enough time to get your defenses buffed

And their offenses debuffed

[vestal echo]

its possible yeah.

[keen jasper]

This guy is my hero
https://youtu.be/7weQVDG07Lg?si=rBn_xeErellWrRxo

[crystal notch]

This would be my first time 3k-ing

Would this work?

[swift swan]

Strength 11

I mean it's against Olivia, so sure

But I'd just run full attack and reduce strength, Blue can handle it

[old orchid]

i wouldnt pick Ally HP down at the start

[silver dirge]

Also No Stat Reduction, you're not making use of it

[swift swan]

Wait who is this against

[silver dirge]

Flint

[keen jasper]

Flint

[old orchid]

Flint i assume

[swift swan]

The param says Olivia but the team is vs Flint

[silver dirge]

Ah

[swift swan]

That makes a lot of difference

[swift swan]

I assume Cyrus DPS, May nuke, in which case she wants stat reduction for accuracy debuffs

[silver dirge]

Ah fair

[silver dirge]

Impressive, so F2P accessible too

[twin field]

What should i aim for in this event 👀

[silver dirge]

You've only done hard mode so far right?

[swift swan]

Well, the rewards

[twin field]

Ye

[swift swan]

As much as you can manage

[silver dirge]

Start at around 850

[twin field]

And its water weakness for everything right?

[swift swan]

Do higher points on easier stages (shauntal, olivia) and you can go slightly lower points for the other 3

[silver dirge]

You can reset this one so no harm in gradually increasing points

[swift swan]

Mhm. Movesets are on pins

[cold kestrel]

My ass will not be even attempting the cs(I have 12 total water types and they’re all bad)🤷🏾

[silver dirge]

You sure? No Kris, May, SS Grimsley? Cos they can handle it just fine

Cyrus as well

Hell, I did one of the stages with Barry & Striker Gyarados

Also regardless of the above, at least do a single run at no additional points for the gems. Otherwise you're losing 500 for no reason

[wet gate]

How do you check pins on mobile

In the new update

[crystal notch]

Yeah uh that's actually another question

Do I go flint or olivia

[old orchid]

channel name -> settings

[crystal notch]

Also can my May nuke?

I have never used her to nuke

[old orchid]

she can, yes

she has Hide n Sync on grid for more damage

[crystal notch]

So uh flint? Or olivia

[silver dirge]

What round is this btw?

[crystal notch]

I was planning on Olivia round 1

But then I heard sp atk up should be on Olivia?

[silver dirge]

Do Olivia round 2. All the others use predominantly special moves which get boosted by R2

[crystal notch]

Hence the confusing param vs team selection

Ah so flint first

[twin field]

Have i got enough for this event? Anyone else worth bringing up

[odd shore]

Ok seriously, how do I 3,000 point malva?

I’ve tried everything

Even poison stall

But she does so much damn damage

Even when I main it rain

[old orchid]

what params and teams are you using?

[old orchid]

Archie, Kris, Nessa, Cerena, May and Cyrus (with his Hydro Pump) are good options as dmg dealer

[odd shore]

First I tried Wallace, Sygna Suit Leaf and Carbink Olivia

Then I tried Wallace, May and Spring Burge

[old orchid]

dont use Wallace

replace him with another Water dmg dealer

[odd shore]

I’m on round 3 and I mean his whirlpool’s trap effect did a lot of damage

[old orchid]

he is not good at dmg

[old orchid]

you shouldnt care about that

[odd shore]

Welp

Was attempting to take advantage of the status effect boost

Plus use his status reflection move to dodge the will-o-wisp

I already used Sycamore so I don’t have him to heal statuses either

[old orchid]

its better to bring a dmg dealer to beat Malva before she uses WoW

[odd shore]

Alright

Here’s what I got left for water

[old orchid]

Holiday Siebold can work as a dps

replace Spring Burgh with someone who can buff offensive stats quickly

[odd shore]

Wait since when could Holiday Siebold do good?

[old orchid]

with rain he should deal okay damage

wait, this is round 3 right?

have you planned teams for remaining stages?

[odd shore]

Was gonna use my EX role caked Zygard for Leaf

Haven’t really figured out round 4 yet

But yeah this is R3

[old orchid]

who are the remaining E4?

[odd shore]

Chantel

[twin field]

So if my initial goal is 850 per stage what params should i be playing with?

[old orchid]

for Leaf, remember to counter her stage

[odd shore]

Stage?

[old orchid]

i mean her gimmick, sorry

[odd shore]

What’s her gimmick?

[old orchid]

the pins have infographic about stages' info

[twin field]

Sorry the pins didnt say anything about 850 so i didnt see. Found them in the doc tho

Nessa isnt doing much into flint, is special better?

[old orchid]

what params and teams are you using?

[old orchid]

thats where i wanted you to find

[twin field]

The 850 params in favour of phys

[old orchid]

then adjust it

the pinned params serve as examples, you have to adjust the params depends on team needs / stage gimmicks

[rustic meteor]

3 stages left and i dont know what to use cause nothing work (im keeping the kalos trio for leaf)

[old orchid]

1. pick a dmg dealer for each round
2. build a team around each of them
3. profit

do note that you dont have to build monotype teams

[rustic meteor]

Aw man

[crystal notch]

Well, tried it out and realized flint has aoe special moves

Can't do Blue anymore

Everyone will just flat out die

[rustic meteor]

Finally

[undone ether]

Nice 😮

is that a 3/5 Mix Red?

[rustic meteor]

5/5

[crystal notch]

Ok I have no idea how to deal with flint

[undone ether]

needs stat debuffs otherwise he hits harder and harder (sync / damage)

what team were you trying to complete against Flint?

[tardy belfry]

somehow I managed to poison stall flint r3, yea I'm a certified idiot

fall caitlin saved my life for nc leaf, my mvp

[rustic meteor]

FINALLY BYE FLINT

[crystal notch]

This was with ncede irida sneasel

3k

[undone ether]

which round? o.o?

[crystal notch]

R1

Probably issue with params

First time 3king after all

Flint goes down with sneasel then irida sync on sync turn

But then the sides are alive

And they want my mons dead

[undone ether]

Remove the Max HP

[manic kiln]

don't pick str and hp and add atk & def on top of those

[rustic meteor]

Leaf is so hard what the hell

[crystal notch]

Heat wave's not gonna kill my team?

[rustic meteor]

Calem dies on the spot and then leaf turn into a beast

[manic kiln]

nothing for ontype?, 3k offtype is harder when you have to make up for 300 points

[trail smelt]

Huh how does NC Leaf kill CCalem immediately?

[old orchid]

Use Rain Dance first turn to shut down Sun passives

[manic kiln]

check your param? did you choose support take more dmg, but also calem is not a tanky support, esp without defensive buffs

[rustic meteor]

Yeah that's what im doing but i can't kill before she sync

And she kills everyone except calem

[old orchid]

Switch to post sync params then

[crystal notch]

Well, I tried out May cyrus ncede but heat wave kills everybody

[manic kiln]

use a 2nd dps tbh, replace calem

[old orchid]

Hilbert is not a good tank and he doesnt have synergy with other two

You dont need to build monotype team

[pseudo drum]

Ok
The thing is that chicken piece won't die and won't stop scorching my team
Any suggestions?

[old orchid]

What params are you using?

[old orchid]

The team is fine

[pseudo drum]

Sending..

[manic kiln]

wait is this the 1st round, did you plan all 5 teams first

[crystal notch]

Hmm would this work with cbede may cyrus?

[crystal notch]

Yeah guess I'll go back to the drawing board

Since I don't even have all 5 rounds planned

I was thinking off typing a lot of the rounds

But turns out 3k off type is infinitely harder than 2.5k

[manic kiln]

3k hoenn/kalos/sinnoh is significantly harder so maybe lower the point to see if you can get a clear

they have a lot of passives and you need both offensive and defensive units if you're going to off-type

[undone ether]

I'd trade Physical Damage Reduction 8 for Ally Half MP if you wanna use SS Silver. o.o

[crystal notch]

Yeah I turned that off for the ice type off typing

The newest parameter I sent is for an on type attempt

But I realize that if I'm screwed on Flint and have to throw Cbede already

It's not going to bode well for the other rounds