#Champion Stadium

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keen jasper
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Best week is if champion stage had half sync parameter as the initial parameter PoryWoke

grave wyvern
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Perhaps a gentle reminder to the vets in this channel that just because you personally find 15k to be super easy, doesn't mean that every other player shares your opinion

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This is a help channel, after all CalemRelieved

keen jasper
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I'm always doing above 12.5k and 15k anyways so yeah...

grave wyvern
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Sounds like you're in a great position to help those who can't manage it then WallyUWU

old orchid
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What a banger week BarryPogChamp

keen jasper
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Also, perma field effect is perfect for Blue I just realized

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Because it's perma Reflect

silent plinth
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Perma rock zone and sandstorm PauloWho

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Does Roark benefit from sandstorm?

fluid vessel
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the week is just missing half sync to be the greatest week of all time

keen jasper
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Nah, but he benefits from perma rock zone

keen jasper
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And I'm kinda serious too

old orchid
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Hello kinda serious too

swift swan
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as much as I enjoy half sync, it's very punishing for new players

silent plinth
silver dirge
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Yeap

silent plinth
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Even for me it’s punishing (max HP and strength my beloved)

silver dirge
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max HP my beloved indeed

old orchid
silver dirge
keen jasper
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They're scared of using half HP and -1 and -2 sync CD

fluid vessel
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new players that are scared of half sync could perfectly stall it

keen jasper
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And half TM too

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Also, can anyone imagine a poison-weak stage with Fresh Start and Team Sync Cure 9?

silver dirge
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Koga nuke BlueYea

keen jasper
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Survives with 1 HP

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Oh, and also Recuperation

silver dirge
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Anti poison stall stage SabrinaStraw

keen jasper
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Exactly

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No, not Recuperation, Synchro Healing

main crow
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Awww thanks for the free win

silver dirge
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No EX for Erika AcerolaPensive

keen jasper
silver dirge
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I mean Erika doesn't need the interference to obliterate the stage

keen jasper
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Yeah true

silver dirge
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genpool queen

keen jasper
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Grass-weak stage with Sentry Entry x4 SabrinaPray

silver dirge
fluid vessel
keen jasper
trail smelt
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Huh

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That was a disgustingly easy Steven fight vs Lance

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I have severely underestimated Colress’s capabilities

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Anyway easy clear woo

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Ready for next week… but I am not looking forward to bug weak

fluid vessel
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omw can bruno stop using close combat/Earthquake ONCE

north crown
fluid vessel
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no, you are cursed now

main crow
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Second Blue vs Submas week NGS_Ingo_spookydance NGS_Emmet_spookydance

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And SIEBOLD SWEEP SieboldSalt

surreal forge
calm marsh
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R1 Pernament field BarryPogChamp

undone ether
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jeez. Blue's hurricane hurts.

surreal forge
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I mean sing

undone ether
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Sleep tactics?

surreal forge
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I used sing

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And he slept

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Now I will 3/5 garbodor

manic mica
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What’s a good poison stall team for R4?

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And which of the elite is good for r4?

old orchid
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any stage

trail smelt
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Permanent field and grass is just asking to get wiped out lol

old orchid
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#1097597679015567420 you can learn about poison stalling here

grand trout
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Lol this is cute

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Awoo intensifies

fluid vessel
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any stage works for poison stalling

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Ball Guy/SSLeaf are the premium poison stallers but Janine with a tank and another unit should do the job too

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Mix Red too but you would use him for permanent field anyways

rain turret
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any team suggestions for lorelei?Im thinking on going on her 1st cuz if the field effects are permanent,then grassy terrain should stay forever,helping my ss lyra,does this also counts for weather?

old orchid
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all field effects are permanent

rain turret
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I was thinking going full grass with ss lyra, ss erika and shauna

old orchid
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that team works very well

rain turret
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now I only need to arrange the parameters to 3k

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R2 I'll go on agatha with karen

fluid vessel
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today in stuff that does not exist:

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ok it never existed I just got a mega kick miss to succeed CourtneyBruh

grand trout
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I relied on freezing glare freezing lol

calm marsh
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3k so much harder lol

fluid vessel
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meanwhile me attempting KGrimsley vs Lance

calm marsh
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I want to do Bertha vs Lance too

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But

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No blue cookie CaitlinSleeper

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And i will not use brown one, it will hurt my hand

fluid vessel
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lance is cooperating but not the sidemon

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just...BUFF

calm marsh
fluid vessel
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well glad I don't have to do that now lol

rain turret
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lance wasnt that hard with rose,hop and gloria

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now the one we dont talk about

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who's the best option here?

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I wish my giovanni was EXed but his event is taking too long to return

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and I wanna save my poison stall for blue

old orchid
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non EX Giovanni works perfectly fine

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if you want to try out some units, Lucian + Olympia is a good core

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Lucian nukes while Olympia handles dps

hushed lintel
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i don't get why lance is so hard

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i can't pass him when i one shotted the others

old orchid
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what team (and parameters if master mode) are you using?

hushed lintel
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hop solgaleo and phoebe

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i don't have any of the events

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from the legendary adventure

plush tangle
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phoebe provides nothing to that team

hushed lintel
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except for ghetis

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well she tanks

plush tangle
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Hop can tank

hushed lintel
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lvl 118

plush tangle
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doesnt matter

hushed lintel
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i need to raise him

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well he gets one shotted

old orchid
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raise him to higher level (120 - 125 is enough), and give him Vigilance lucky skill to avoid getting crit

hushed lintel
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yeah i'll try that once i get vigor

old orchid
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that team also lacks gauge, you should replace Phoebe with a speed buffer

old orchid
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Hop + Solgaleo + Marley is a good team

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next time you should fill your sync pair tracker out to save time and for better understanding

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+tracker

frozen depotBOT
hushed lintel
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marley is lvl 1

old orchid
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is this hard or master mode>

hushed lintel
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master mode

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1500

old orchid
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which round is this?

hushed lintel
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my 4th

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and then it's blue

old orchid
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okay, use Fall Roxanne instead of Marley then

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remember to turn off No Interference param and activate her B Move

hushed lintel
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i was saving her for blue

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i won't need her ?

rain turret
old orchid
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a tank, ofc

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preferably who helps both buffing offensive stats

old orchid
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have you planned a team for Blue?

hushed lintel
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it was all roxanne and probably zerena

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and then who cares something that tanks

old orchid
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its an offtype team so remember to turn off Standard Damage Reduction param

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back to Lance, which speed buffers do you have left?

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you can use the ingame filter

old orchid
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use Fall Caitlin then

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and add Hop back to the team instead of Sycamore

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Solgaleo needs crit

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i think you can use Variety Thorton for easier clear ontype

hushed lintel
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instead of solgaleo ?

old orchid
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yes

rain turret
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which of these supports should I use?

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Im trying SS blue but its not going well

old orchid
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look for a support who can buff crit/spatk

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alternatively try Bianca instead of Lucian for Psychic Terrain

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Bianca also has very good dps

rain turret
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or maybe I should try off type with zerena or ss hilda

old orchid
rain turret
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does interference immunity affect restraining?

old orchid
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no

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it only affects flinch, confusion and trap

hushed lintel
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i was one hit away from killing him

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seems to work better than whatever i was doing

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maybe i have to focus aerodactyl first

old orchid
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keep trying then

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yes, should focus on mid first

hushed lintel
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because he wipes the floor late game

fluid vessel
hushed lintel
old orchid
hushed lintel
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i must have made a mistake in my parameters

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because i did 1600 pts instead of 1500

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lol

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good mistake good mistake

unborn raft
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Alright quick 15k!

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Now who to EX

rain turret
unborn raft
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Just the offtype presync setup + a few strength

rain turret
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Imma try that later

left storm
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Funniest csmm in a while

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1/5 carnie and 1/5 diantha absolutely slaying

nova imp
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Did someone say

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Week reset

nova imp
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Y’all mind helping me against Lorelei?

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This is as far as I’ve gotten

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And I tried for like half an hour

keen jasper
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I'm surprised you died with SS Morty

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I'd replace Lyra for someone else

nova imp
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He’s 1/5

nova imp
keen jasper
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Another damage dealer

left storm
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SS Erika for example

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Or Brendan

nova imp
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Don’t have any of those

keen jasper
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Show us your grass units

nova imp
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I only chose Lyra as she has a really good performance with sun

left storm
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Is silver power boosted?

nova imp
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Nope

left storm
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What's his lucky skill

nova imp
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None

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Didn’t bother with that

silver dirge
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SS Morty is 1/5 you said?

nova imp
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but ig that could work

nova imp
swift swan
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hard mode i assume?

silver dirge
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I was going to suggest having Erika for a grass type nuke (assuming you've got candies) while Silver handles DPS, since it's easy to setup. But SS Morty can only do +2 crit at 1/5 HilbertHmm

nova imp
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ofc

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With on post parameters

silver dirge
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Wait it's hard mode or master mode?

nova imp
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Master mode

silver dirge
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Yea figured

nova imp
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I’ll put critical striker 2

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And see if it makes a difference

silver dirge
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Are you close?

nova imp
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Btw when is the next legendary gauntlet?

silver dirge
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We dunno yet

nova imp
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Last time I didn’t grind a lot and it kinda hurt me

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damn

silver dirge
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1-2 months I'd guess

swift swan
silver dirge
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Unless you just forego Solar Flare 5 on Erika

nova imp
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Yeah

silver dirge
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Which should be doable tbh

nova imp
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Ss morty is great

silver dirge
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I think nov's idea might work

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Replace SS Morty with a good special support

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First sync with Silver, 2nd sync with Erika while you set up paralysis

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Still a bit iffy once your sun runs out but it might be worth a shot

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Or if you can candy Gardenia & have cookies for Dauntless, she's great on-type too

swift swan
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hmm yeah, gardenia/silver/ssmorty should be a comfortable dual strike team. presyncing should be pretty easy

silver dirge
nova imp
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Didn’t manage

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Thanks for the tips though

nova imp
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If she had contrary like ss Hilda then maybe

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But she can’t even buff her own sp atk

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Properly

fluid vessel
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Standard stuff

nova imp
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and then there’s that…

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Man

toxic cobalt
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Gardenia can do it, with help

nova imp
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Ss morty and silver seems like good aid

toxic cobalt
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Well SS Morty is nice I dunno how much value Silver gives

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It’ll work though

nova imp
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It didn’t

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I tried that for a while

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Worked better with Lyra instead of gardenia

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Still wasn’t enough in both cases though

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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If you want an easy clear run Sycamore and Janine it’s grass weak Lorelei

nova imp
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Dw

toxic cobalt
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F

nova imp
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Against uh

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Bruno

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I did Lucian sycamore and Giovanni

toxic cobalt
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Have you tried Gardenia Roxanne and Elio

nova imp
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Worked fine

fluid vessel
fluid vessel
toxic cobalt
keen jasper
nova imp
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Oh

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I can do uh

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Serena

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That should do

toxic cobalt
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That should indeed

nova imp
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Yeah that should

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Ss morty silver and Serena

toxic cobalt
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Why not

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What round is this?

nova imp
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3

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That’s why I’m thinking if it’s better to leave it to 4

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Since status conditions last longer

toxic cobalt
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Nah that doesn’t matter for sleep chaining

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4 is mostly for poison stalling

nova imp
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I failed

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I think that I should probably kill the sides first?

mellow linden
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Are you on-typing or off-typing?

nova imp
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On-type

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With solar beam

mellow linden
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There’s definitely better options for Grass than Solar Beam Silver

nova imp
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Not for me

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I don’t have ss Erika

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Nor Brendan

mellow linden
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If Solar Beam Silver is your best on-type option then you may want to consider off-typing or Poison stalling instead, IMO

nova imp
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Hm

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I’ll think

toxic cobalt
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I mean the best option is gridded Gardeni

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But basically the opponent should not be syncing

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And they definitely shouldn’t be awake

mellow linden
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Their Gardenia is 1/5

keen jasper
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I actually can't believe this, Iron Head missed on K. Grimsley while he's on Metal Burst

silver dirge
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The one time you've got the optimal Metal Burst setup SeleneLul

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Wow 3K has really killed SS Brock. That man needs a grid expansion.

keen jasper
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He needs mega and grid expansion

paper summit
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that man needs a whole new kit

keen jasper
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Need to turn Rock Tomb into Stone Edge

fluid vessel
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just give him another aggravation 1

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and recharging strike 9

keen jasper
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Also, Power Gem unit when HilbertHmm

fluid vessel
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Oh no!
Anyways

fluid vessel
fluid vessel
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I still have to do the E4 Battles with him, hopefully they are not as annoying as last week's battles

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At least Blue was infinitely easier

ornate ridge
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Would appreciate it if someone helps me with clearing all medals2Pepe_Pray

frozen depotBOT
fluid vessel
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Poison Stall with Janine Leaf Skyla already covers 3 types

silver dirge
ornate ridge
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ok thx guys2Pepe_Pray

rain turret
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Im doing zerena 2 fillers on bruno,but damn he's hard

peak stirrup
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I have a bad feeling about Blue

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Olivia is hit and miss vs 2500

ornate ridge
keen jasper
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Time to suffer

silver dirge
# ornate ridge Done

Congrats! You can make your way towards master mode now TabithaHehe Start at lower points and work your way up, 850 is a good start & have a look at the pins for sample parameters. As always feel free to ask for help if you need to SidneyYippee

ornate ridge
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thx again2Pepe_Pray

manic mica
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I hate Bruno so much

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I always struggle with him the most

nova imp
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Hm

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I think I might have to off type Lorelei

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@silver dirge what about ss morty + ss Hilda + Lyra

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I wanted to save Hilda for later but whatever

rain turret
rain turret
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Im on blue,who do I use with oleana to toxic stall?

left storm
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Any defence buffer

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Sonia + misty for example

mellow linden
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I’d personally recommend trying a more standard Janine + Poison inflictor (Koga, Lucy, and BP Erika are great options) + tank setup 1st so that you can save Oleana as an emergency off-type option since she has strong personal damage and can also enable a 2nd Poison damage-dealer

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Worst case scenario with trying a more standard setup 1st is you fail with it and end up using Oleana for stall anyways

left storm
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He's on blue

mellow linden
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Ah

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Fair enough then, I guess

junior crown
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if you're using oleana then I recomend to use someone with reflect + light screen (Melony/Anabel/Mesprit)

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and go with round 1 parameters

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if you go with Melony she raises SP def as well, so someone that raises def and heal is enough (like Skyla/Sonia), but if you go with Mesprit, someone that raises both is better, if not focus on SP def, since most of Blue's attack is special

rain turret
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finished with 13650

fluid vessel
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Sorry looks like Lance is now being sent to the Shadow realm

unborn raft
tulip python
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Thank god this run wasn’t as painful as last week

keen jasper
tulip python
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Lapras still absurdly Tanky, but Grass Gorilla crushed it

fluid vessel
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3k glacia half sync

keen jasper
tulip python
tulip python
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Also I feel like all the steel weak E4s are not weak to physical

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They’re all special weak

nocturne pawn
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steel bertha has wex3

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on sides

keen jasper
# tulip python Extra plz no

Don't forget that steel-weak Bertha has Head Start 1 which means half sync + -2 sync CD is immediately 1 CD for her on turn 1 TabithaHehe BerthaCozy

fallen lintel
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Hello

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Whats best combo for 3k on element

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Are there new sheets for points or it depends on battle

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I could post my units if someone can point me to best combo

old orchid
nova imp
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Good morning

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I still am failing Lorelei

old orchid
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good morning, failing Lorelei
can you show your team and parameters>

nova imp
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Tried off syncing with THIS team and it’s still impossible

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Parameters are off pre sync

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I also tried using Serena instead of silver

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For sleep cycle

old orchid
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try switching to post sync

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if it doesnt work, try poison stalling

fallen lintel
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Any tips

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Gengar just owns me

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Whats best start for this

plush tangle
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this team should very easily win

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your parameters must be wrong

silver dirge
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You've got a special and physical pair there, are you accidentally reducing Akari's damage with Physical DR by any chance?

fallen lintel
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Mby

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Leme check

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Yea i did

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Also gengar blows me ez pz

silver dirge
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You should be clearing it before Agatha's sync. Can you send a snap of your parameters?

fallen lintel
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Thx

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Prob was the dmg reduction

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Also i didnt abuse sleep to slow gengar

silver dirge
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Yep 80% DR will do that to you

fallen lintel
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Now he blow up ez

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Thx for tip

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Im still noob so geting used

silver dirge
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No worries CalemRelieved

fallen lintel
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Prob is rest are off ele

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So need to figuer out what will work best

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Whats best 3k start off ele t just nuke tham?

old orchid
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Since 3k is mostly team reliant, you should check the pins for 2.5k param sets and read the guide there

tulip python
toxic cobalt
full mesa
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Yeah. Just add Lyra in that combo with the 2 birds.

nova imp
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I need help

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Nothing works

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I tried everything, solar beam, off type, pre sync, post sync

silver dirge
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What move level are Morty & Hilda?

nova imp
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1/5

silver dirge
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give me one sec

nova imp
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When I get candies my priority is giving one to morty

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He’s so broken at 2/5

silver dirge
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is Morty EX?

nova imp
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Yeah

mellow linden
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Have you tried Poison stall?

nova imp
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but poison stall doesn’t work when your opponent has aoe?

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Lapras has surf

mellow linden
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Poison stall isn’t reliant on the opponent only using single-target moves

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You’re buffing the entire team’s defenses and debuffing all opponents’ offenses

nova imp
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Thing is

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I’m at round 3

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So I maybe have to complete lance first before Lorelei?

mellow linden
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If you want

nova imp
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So round 4 is for poison stall

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Alright

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Then I’ll ask for help for lance

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I don’t have any good steel type

mellow linden
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Tbh if need be you can probably Poison stall both

nova imp
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Idk if I have enough mons for that

fluid vessel
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Or you could Just do the Sycamore solo team

nova imp
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I was thinking of copying auroch

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#1011675077764456519 message

mellow linden
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You can absolutely get 2 Poison stall teams using only f2p and low-rarity pairs

nova imp
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Before

fluid vessel
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Rip

mellow linden
nova imp
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Hm yeah

mortal pine
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how do i clear CS with these guys

keen jasper
mortal pine
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first round is perm field effects, so id assume mix red would do well in that round

mellow linden
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Can build a team around:

  • Nessa and either Masked Royal or Sidney for Agatha.

  • Giovanni for Bruno.

  • MC + Solgaleo for Lance (go 5/5 20/20 them).

  • SS Erika or Mix Red for Lorelei.

  • Roark (grid him and get him to at least 4-stars) for Blue.

And be fine, just make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and make sure you’re properly triple queueing

mortal pine
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roark?

mellow linden
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Yes

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3-star with Rampardos, he’s a good Rock damage-dealer

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Just grid him and up his potential to 4-stars (the potential increase might not be necessary for Hard Mode)

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If your Roark isn’t 3/5 yet just off-type Blue with your NC Red

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Also, make sure to get 9-12 different types (type of the Sync Move) across the 5 battles for type medal purposes

mellow linden
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+101

frozen depotBOT
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> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a StrikeS / StrikeP striker or a Tech tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a Support to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

mellow linden
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Some fantastic guidelines that’ll help you understand the whys and hows of teambuilding

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Hard Mode is a great place to get a good grasp on CS teambuilding (and teambuilding in general) since the requirements are less strict than Master Mode

mortal pine
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idk maybe this for Lance?

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+3 crit and +6 attack should be good, right?

mellow linden
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SS Blue might work better on another team due to his significant overlap with Hop, but that team will work fine

north crown
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More like: avoid using SSBlue since you don't have many resources overall.

You do still have at least 1 fight after this too.

silver dirge
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Yea that's essentially what Cobalt said

north crown
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They never said to straight up avoid using SSBlue tho

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different terminology my guy

mellow linden
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If they’re so short on resources that they can’t afford to even level 120 some pairs then yeah, I much more strongly recommend placing SS Blue on a different team, but if resources aren’t in dire straits it probably won’t be a huge deal either way on Hard Mode

north crown
# mortal pine how do i clear CS with these guys

Well, I originally said that after looking at their roster from this reply. I seriously doubt they have anyone better than SSBlue at this time, especially if they splurged their good pairs early in a CS run.

mellow linden
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If it turns out they can’t level up Sync Pairs to 120 then things’ll change, but rn it’s Kanto Hard Mode, so it’s not very strict

north crown
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ik Kanto CS Hard Mode is a joke, but I don't remember it being a literal freebie. At the very least, you'll still need some basic teambuilding to get through.

silver dirge
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Of course, any moderately difficult stage should always be tackled with good teambuilding & queuing practices. But in terms of redundancy or overlapping buffs, there's some flexibility in hard mode

north crown
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I'm just afraid they'd be in a position where the is a lack of buffs due to splurging too many supports.

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the best non support team I could think of is Caitlin, Cyrus, Winona

silver dirge
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Yea that's fair enough, hopefully they'll be okay. NC Red & MixRed can handle a stage each with any 2 fillers so if they just throw in random pairs for those 2 it should be good to go

north crown
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idk how experienced this player is with this game

nova imp
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How do I effectively sleep chain? Sometimes I feel like I’m off

north crown
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we need a sleep chain command...

nova imp
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How do u do it properly?

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hello??

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@north crown

north crown
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it's really simple

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first you need a passive that enables sleep chain easier, like mgr9, ft9, dc9, etc.

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some work and some don't

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amped up

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uhhh

nova imp
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I have Serena

north crown
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unfortious

nova imp
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Does Serena work?

north crown
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she may be enough as a self enabler, but idk if u want to dabble in that just yet

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but this is CS so ig whatever

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is this hard or mm?

nova imp
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mm

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I’m doing lance

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R3

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Gonna poison stall Lorelei next

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So how do I do it?

north crown
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what's your curernt team?

nova imp
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Do I just use always?

nova imp
north crown
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what team have you been trying? or did you even try?

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oh

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ok first of all there's like 0 speed/gauge support

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a crit+speed support would be ideal to replace Hop if u want to still try sleep stall

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do you have any support ex/pmarnie?

nova imp
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I have an ex bladtoise

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Ss blue

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That’s available

nova imp
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Ss blue has both of those

north crown
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if he's 2/5, definitely replace

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SSBlue not being able to quadqueue is remedied with Serena's Hypnosis

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otherwise we might have to look for more niche options

nova imp
north crown
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Mind sharing your support roster then?

nova imp
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uh yeah

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But can u answer my question

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u still didn’t tell me how to sleep chain

north crown
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here's the other half:

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[MoveA, MoveB, SleepC]
[MoveA, Sleep EnablerB, MoveC]
[MoveA, _, SleepC]

nova imp
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Sleep enabler?

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Like the sleep move?

north crown
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you clearly didn't even try understanding what the reply even was

nova imp
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Uh

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I get it but

north crown
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you clearly don't

nova imp
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I don’t get the difference between sleep and sleep enabler

north crown
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hold on I'm getting video reference

north crown
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there

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I want you to focus on 2 things specifically:

  1. When Skyla uses Gust, proccing MGR9
  2. How late Serena uses Hypnosis
nova imp
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What is MGR9

north crown
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Move Gauge Refresh 9

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TL;DR Skyla's Gust MGR9 manipulates the timing of the opponent's move so that there is a consistent way to apply Hypnosis (therefore why FueBoomer queues it in the middle of an attack)

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The best way to achieve this Hypnosis timing is by observing the damage numbers that appear when Gust (AKA a enabling move) is used. People usually use those numbers to time their sleep move to enable stall.

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This is harder to do on a 3v3 battle, which is making me wonder why you're resorting to it, especially in CS

nova imp
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you know

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I have been trying lance for a while

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A lot of different teams

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So I don’t know what to do

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Instead of Serena, is there something better?

north crown
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yeah. you could proabbly use 2 supports/utility mons to further help slowgaleo

nova imp
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Alright

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Ss blue does the same thing as hop

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So I don’t think I’ll be using him

north crown
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one for offensive buffs (AKA Hop), and one for speed (e.g: Skyla)

grand trout
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Can't sol buff himself

north crown
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The more utility they have (e.g: heals, debuffs) the better

north crown
nova imp
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I’ll try skyla

grand trout
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Even so

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If at non pb he'll just need crit supp

nova imp
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This is my grid on her

nova imp
north crown
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@nova imp can u show all ur supports pls

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we may be able to find better synergy

grand trout
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Sol will greatly appreciate thst

nova imp
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I wanna save ss morty for blue

north crown
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ey that's a pretty decent box

hushed lintel
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do i need all of my teams to be 140 for 2000 pt ?

north crown
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well obviously you would want to; however, with good enough teambuilding, you should be able to clear as long as your units are above 120

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those extra levels are really just the cherry on top

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hold on what does Proton do? I'm going in #bot-zone to find out.

hushed lintel
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mmh ok i'll figure out 5 teams prior trying them

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the problem is to find 5 support units 🤣

north crown
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@nova imp goddammit I think you should show me your whole roster at this point
Also I wanna ask: what's your BP progression looking like? you got any more BP tickets?

nova imp
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I got a spare

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2 actually

north crown
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also I gotta ask: how are you going to poison stall?

north crown
mellow linden
north crown
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oh my god nvm I forgot slowgaleo has SE1 in grid I'm dumb NFacepalm

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Problem solved: SSBlue, Solgaleo, Wikstrom

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or any other decent steel DPS

nova imp
nova imp
mellow linden
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You can easily make multiple Poison stall teams with just free and low-rarity pairs

north crown
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oh yeah waitaminute can't they get 3/5 BPMorty rn?

nova imp
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I can

north crown
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dang ok we have a wildcard

mellow linden
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Depending on your gen pool 5-stars you might be able to easily make even more

nova imp
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3/5 morty good?

north crown
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mind showing us your steel DPS pairs?

nova imp
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Sure

north crown
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stupidly good defensive pair

nova imp
north crown
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big node is synchro healing, which you must know what it does even if you haven't used it.

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eh Molayne works ig

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wow you don't even have Wikstrom... that's a surprise to me

nova imp
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He’s 4*?

north crown
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yeah

nova imp
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Damn

north crown
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just show your whole roster so I don't have to ask again

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maybe u got some hidden gems in the form of techs

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or limited pairs idk

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some notable pairs like that are lucian and masked royal; they both gives max speed buffs and also heavily debuffs too.

nova imp
north crown
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hold on why is only 3 pairs marked..

mellow linden
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Tbh you may wanna consider lowering the point value

north crown
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what e4 stages u beaten?

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oh waitaminute I'm dumb

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you said you're on r3

nova imp
north crown
nova imp
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I came back 2 months ago wdym lmao

north crown
north crown
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you got some good offtype picks to choose from if you ever want to do that

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oh my god masked royal exists

nova imp
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the top 3 ones I left for blue since I have no good rock types

nova imp
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He’s really good

north crown
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straight facts

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I wonder if kukui will be able to achieve something similar. he's a gauge efficient def debuffer which is a relatively close substitute for MR

nova imp
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Ok so

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For lance

north crown
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You should try that fr

nova imp
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I’ll try doing

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Hop ss blue and solgaleo

north crown
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Turtle, Cat, and Dog.

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wait not that dog

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overlapping buffs

nova imp
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Hop is surprisingly a good dps since he has free move pick

north crown
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oh you're planning to use him as a dps huh

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not bad, but I doubt u will have the gauge

nova imp
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Whenever he has freevenge 4

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I’ll use

north crown
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you might want to consider replacing ssblue with rosa at that rate

nova imp
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Hm? Rosa?

north crown
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u still get EX buff, while being able to spam her TM for gauge if you get lucky

nova imp
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She’s sp atk

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Buff

north crown
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also her TM works similarily to Skyla's pots cuz iirc, 1/5 Rosa gets 2 MPR2s

grand trout
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Rosa naurr

north crown
nova imp
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Alright

north crown
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also quadqueue wouldn't be an issue

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lemme double check rq

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ok yeah her 1/5 grid is busted for her tm

nova imp
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How?

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Power flux?

nova imp
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Aaaaaa nothing works

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Frustrating

grand trout
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Hm?

nova imp
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Nothing is working

grand trout
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What stage, and why?

nova imp
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can u pls read a lil up

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I think I’ll just poison stall

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And I’ll figure out another team

mellow linden
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You can just run multiple Poison stall teams

nova imp
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I’ll ask you for another then

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When the time comes

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thx

north crown
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lemme make a list of all the possible team u can try

grand trout
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Knowing why allows us to fix whatever is wrong

north crown
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@nova imp Who's the other E4 member that hasn't been fought?

north crown
nova imp
north crown
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answer 1, 2, or 3 pls

nova imp
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I’ll just do poison stall on both

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And off type blue

north crown
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ok Lorelei is literally a freebie dw

nova imp
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Alright

north crown
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ok nvm I don't have to worry about saving BPMorty, so let's do it

nova imp
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Also I might be getting my variety unit

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In like 1 hour

north crown
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get his ass to 3/5 and grid him for synchro healing, TM MPR, and Pot stuff

north crown
north crown
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r3 lance duh

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lemme check your posion appliers while u prep BPMorty

nova imp
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Alright, if that doesn’t work we try poison stall

north crown
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ok that's slightly dissapointing

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the only bad poison applier u got is Lucy, so let's use her

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BPMorty, Lucy, Janine

nova imp
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I have a poison stall team ready

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If u want

north crown
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what is it?

nova imp
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I used last week to clear lorelei

north crown
nova imp
north crown
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oh taht team

north crown
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it's not gonna work against Lance cuz he's mostly physical

nova imp
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True

north crown
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and grass is stupidly easy for f2p so we'll stall Lance

nova imp
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Alright then

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What should I change in that team?

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Misty?

north crown
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u can either fish for pot mpr with Skyla, or go get BPMorty for an relatively easier time

nova imp
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Just saying

north crown
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doesn't matter

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Rosa, Silver, Blaine is a f2p staple team that was always able to clear at least 2.5k points on every grass weak stage

nova imp
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Hm? Alright then

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I can use ss morty btw

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On that team

north crown
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oh shoot we might be in trouble cuz of r4 param

nova imp
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Instead of Blaine

north crown
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oh yeah ssmorty

nova imp
north crown
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waitaminute I thought u crossed him out

nova imp
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Should I do r3 for Lorelei then?

nova imp
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Instead of him

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Works right?

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Eh I’ll figure it out

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So I do r3 lance or Lorelei?

north crown
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oh red is saving for Blue? ic

nova imp
#

what?

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No

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I’m saving for blue ss serena, ss Hilda and ss blue

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Or ss morty whatever

north crown
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I think it's a bit redundant to put a supp ex for them since you want Zerena to sync anyways

nova imp
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yeah so whatever

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I can use them now

north crown
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doesn't proton do basically the same thing?

nova imp
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Proton is sp atk and sp def

north crown
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and crit

nova imp
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Yeah

north crown
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and his passive, Proton's Plan, fills gauge like crazy

nova imp
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Anyways what team would work against Lorelei then?

nova imp
north crown
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rosa, silver, blaine

nova imp
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Or ss morty?

north crown
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the problem is:

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yeah or ssmorty

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the problem is that the team would like to presync by quadqueuing, but r4 params stops them from doing so cuz shields' duration suck.

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we might have to poison stall Lance on r4 instead

nova imp
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Ok só lorelei it is

north crown
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rosa silver sun go

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I'll try to find a resource showcasing this strat in case u get stuck

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OH WAITAMINUTE HOLD ON

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since SSMorty is EXed, u can probably replace Rosa with a max SpAtk buffer for more damage

nova imp
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I think silver buffs himself

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Especially in sun

north crown
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SSElesa can max SpAtk at 1/5, but you only get one MPR2 node for X SpAtk All

north crown
nova imp
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No

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You know

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I tried this team before

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And failed miserably

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Let me send it

nova imp
north crown
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ok ofc u died it's Lyra, also I'm retty sure u let the enemy sync

nova imp
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Yeah I was doing post sync

north crown
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presync is the way to go with silver

nova imp
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Ok

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What can I do then

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Instead of Lyra

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Proton?

north crown
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hey.. what if we combined strats and replaced Rosa with Elio? we might be able to snag a few extra Solar Beams with Elio's boosted sing procs in r3

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same +4 SpAtk buffs too, better cuz it's in 1 turn

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and we don't have to worry about supp EX since SSMorty

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he also acts as a gauge booster cuz passives

nova imp
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Do I need to grid Elio? He’s 1/5

north crown
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Not really. He doesn't have anything to boost sing's acc. Only Troublemaker 1 Lucky Skill.

nova imp
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Ok I’ll see if it works

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What do I do with Elio?

north crown
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If u got no LS, dw as iirc you are still working with 90% acc cuz of r3 param

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Elio: TM, Sing, Sing, Sing, Sing, Sing, Sing

north crown
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Lucky Skill

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You do know the move order of CS opponents right?

nova imp
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So I have to sleep chain?

nova imp
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What is that

north crown
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not really, just sleep enough for Silver to fire off more Solar Beams

north crown
# nova imp What is that

General CS move order
Mid, Right, Mid, Left, repeat. (1)

if opponent syncs:
Mid, repeat.

if opponent dies:
Queue goes to whichever side was next in (1), the alternates. repeat.

nova imp
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Really? I didn’t know that existed

nova imp
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So how does that help me

north crown
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Anyways dw about sleeping every single move. As long as you stall enough for Silver to wipe the stage, it'll do.

north crown
nova imp
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No no

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Like how can I make use of move order?

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wait

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Does Elio put everyone to sleep?

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Like Serena?

north crown
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also first sync SSMorty, rest Silver. Make sure you use Sun on turn 2 to be able to guarantee sun until 2nd sync

north crown
nova imp
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Ok thank god

north crown
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after Elio's TM spam sing on whoever's next on move order

nova imp
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Wait no he doesn’t

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He doesn’t put everyone

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It’s single target

north crown
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normally I wouldn't recommend Elio for sleep cuz 45 acc, but r3 boosts this to 90

nova imp
#

acc?

north crown
north crown
nova imp
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Ah

north crown
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the only purpose of Elio spamming sing is to give Silver more time to fire off Sbs. I thought I told you this

nova imp
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Lowers stats if ally dies

north crown
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yeah r3 = round 3

nova imp
north crown
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oh nvm I'm a dumb

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wait did Nov just edited their message?

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oh my god I'm on the verge of suing them

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anyways now that the gameplan has changed, u can try this team now; same strat.

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if u want max spatk in trade for sleep, u can pick up SSElesa instead of Elio now that quadqueue is possible

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tho idk if you know how to quadqueue

nova imp
#

I do

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It’s just annoying

north crown
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lemme find that bot command

nova imp
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I know how to do it

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It’s just annoying

north crown
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oh nvm - yeah it's annoying

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ig use the Elio team variant as a safety net against lack of quadqueue, and you should be able to presync comfortably at 2.5k

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idk about 3k points tho

nova imp
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I’m doing 2.6

north crown
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should be good then, unless. you fuck up your options

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do you want a suggested move order?

nova imp
#

Sure

north crown
# nova imp Sure

Turn 1: TM, TM, TM

Turn 2: Sun, SB, Sing

  • whatever, SB

Turn 3: TM, SB, Sing

  • SSMorty SYNC, SB

Turn 4+: whatever, SB, Sing

  • whatever, SB

Setup 2nd Sun whenever you need to in the "whatever spots", then Silver 2nd SYNC ASAP, followed by ONLY SB and Sing spam.

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SB = Solar Beam

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TL;DR: buff, then cycle SB and Sing

nova imp
#

Weren’t we going for ss elesa?

north crown
#

if u want to

nova imp
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Since spatk

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Alright

north crown
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you can probably just figure that out urself since it's more straightforward

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literally cuts Elio's team's move order list in half

nova imp
#

Got lucky with rng

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Worked, thanks

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Now it’s poison stallin’ time

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Hey

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You said I should use bp morty instead of misty right

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For Lorelei?

nocturne pawn
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bp morty is more consistent cuz he has 2 mp for tm vs 1

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but psyduck also has gradual healing on tm

nova imp
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No no

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I’m talking about story misty

nocturne pawn
#

uh

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why are you using starmie for poison stall

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yeah definitely use bp morty then

nova imp
#

Evasion

nocturne pawn
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evasion is not reliable

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i guess the logic is that lorelei is exclusively special

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but still id just run morty

nova imp
#

Got it

north crown
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yeah bpmorty is the goat

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@nova imp oh yeah lemme give u recommended min grid

nova imp
#

Alright thanks

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God damn it

#

I spent all my cookies and didn’t get vigilance

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And now I’m suffering

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How do I get more cookies right now?

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Or vigilance

north crown
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BV (which passed), or LG

plush tangle
#

there are some cookies in the current eevee event too

nova imp
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Also no lg right now unfortunately

#

I should’ve grinded that more

silver dirge
#

Battle Villa

nova imp
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Ah

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Well the cookies aren’t that great thee

nova imp
north crown
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better pray that LG is coming next month then

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it's the only infinite cookie source

nova imp
#

Well how do I clear without vigilante?

silver dirge
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Yea you gotta farm em on LG if you want to stock up

nova imp
#

I was pretty new when that was up

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Like I had just come back and it was already running

north crown
silver dirge
#

If you have BP Clemont he's got built in vigilance iirc. But natural crits should hopefully be pretty rare anyway

nova imp
#

Yeah no I can’t do it without vigilante

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Lance crits and 1 shots bp morty

nova imp
silver dirge
#

That's weird did you switch to poison stall params?

nova imp
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Yeah

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1 crit and I’m dead

silver dirge
#

Ah Lance uses Dire Hit All, you indeed should not poison stall that stage without a vigilance tank

nova imp
#

Maybe skyla?

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Mine has vigilante

silver dirge
#

Might work since they only use physical moves but the right side has Earthquake which could crit your other two pairs

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Give it a shot and see

nova imp
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Nah doesn’t work that well

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Skyla is weak to their moves

silver dirge
#

Oh rest in peace

#

I'm guessing no powerboosted Solgaleo?

nova imp
#

Nope

#

Farthest I’ve gotten

#

I wish I could have 100% potion mp refresh

fluid vessel
#

Li... Literally how

nova imp
#

That would be perfect

nova imp
toxic cobalt
#

It looks like a perfect run

nova imp
#

huh

toxic cobalt
#

Bad potion MPr?

nova imp
#

I put max I think

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Skyla weak to rock

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That’s why she’s so feeble here

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And I got no other choice

toxic cobalt
#

Skyla usually tanks it anyway

nova imp
#

Should I ex her or something? Lmao

#

I mean I was thinking of ex-ing proton, then the variety unit id get, then ss red

north crown
#

you could try using both BPMorty and Skyla

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supp EX doesn't really change poison stall strats

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also you get more chances on having infinite pots

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downaide is: no debuffs

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or if you really want to test your luck, try Misty, Lucy, BPMorty and rely on evasion luck

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@nova imp I typed more poison stall options above

nova imp
#

Alright

north crown
#

there is another strat that might work, howveer I'm not so sure about it

#

you can opt to flinch, but flinch also negates poison damage so

nova imp
#

I wish I had a good steel type

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Wouldn’t need to go through this pain

#

Even Steven would do damn

#

Such a small amount of steel types…

north crown
toxic cobalt
#

Not sure Steven is better than Solgaleo. Really don't know why your Solgaleo Hop team didn't work.

old orchid
#

Steven's sync is better than non power boosted Solgaleo's

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Other than that Solgaleo has better dps

toxic cobalt
#

Only at higher move levels though

#

That's expensive candy for...Steven

old orchid
rotund lagoon
#

Me who never used my Steven: SerenaSip

tired sleet
#

Wait nvm solgaleo is still stronger WEEZing
(Since Sol is 5/5, has Sync tiles, and has a full power sync)

toxic cobalt
#

That's enough without the sync nodes?

tired sleet
#

Even without sync tiles sol does more StevenGrimace

fiery canopy
#

aight lets teambuild for this week

  1. lorelei-adaman/ss erika/ss acerola
  2. agatha-nc marnie/penny/anyone
  3. bruno-ss lana/aaron/anyone
  4. lance-solagaleo/hop/sonia
  5. blue-ingo/emmet/anyone
nocturne pawn
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you dont need hop and sonia

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unless your solgaleo isnt pb’d

fiery canopy
#

ik i dont neeeeed em but i may as well tack em on
no point in Not doing it

nocturne pawn
#

just run a second defense debuffer

#

hop and sonia have complete buff overlap

#

it is redundant to run both on the same team

fiery canopy
#

aight
hmm letssee

#

what abt leaf

nocturne pawn
#

also does nothing

#

solgaleo has full offensive set up with his tm

#

so you want to focus on augmenting his damage with debuffs and/or field effects

fiery canopy
#

any recs

nocturne pawn
#

i already said a second defense debuffer

fiery canopy
#

i mean like specific units

eternal matrix
#

colress is an option if you have him

#

really quick def debuffer

fiery canopy
#

hmm
colress lowers def
omg u sent that just as i was typing lol

north crown
#

isn't he your average def debuffer in this team comp? I'd eather they go for someone like Nanu, as they can provide semi-consistent flinches after debuffing

fiery canopy
#

not to worry i already finished the cs for this week lol

trail smelt
#

Colress was great haha

#

Most painless Steven victory I had, and that’s counting all the previous non 3k CS

silent quail
versed meteor
#

Getting used to the 3k now i just feel we need more presets cuz am tired of switching parameters around

toxic cobalt
#

I have 3 presets and one do whatever set

manic kiln
#

i have physical, special, mix and offtype, but a few more would be nice

swift swan
#

i never do presets. i hit reset every time i enter a new battle and enter my params manually, just in case FlanneryBurn

left storm
#

I make custom parameters on slot 1 for every stage

#

Because team comps require different stuff anyway

swift swan
#

also teams are getting more and more personalized especially with 3k so barely any of my teams will have the exact same preset. plus i like to test different damage dealers so i need to keep readjusting my params

hazy tusk
tired sleet
#

I have preset slots but i always reset them WEEZing

silver dirge
#

I make a preset for something but as soon as the slightest param needs changing I hit the reset button and start from scratch

old orchid
#

you guys making presets?

sick inlet
hazy tusk
sand karma
#

I have physical , special, mixed and no fields

hushed lintel
#

what is interference immunity ?

tired sleet
#

It blocks Flinch, Trap, and Confuse

hushed lintel
#

and here i was going to put elain in my team OOF

#

thank you so much

frozen bane
#

the Kanto Hard Challenge

mellow linden
#

Can build a team around:

  • NC Marnie for Agatha.

  • A. May for Bruno.

  • MC + Solgaleo or K. Grimsley for Lance.

  • Brendan or SS Erika for Lorelei.

  • SS Diantha for Blue.

And be fine. Make sure to follow the Teambuilding 101 guidelines and make sure to properly triple queue. Also try to use 9-12 unique types (Sync Move type) across your 5 teams for type medal.

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the team that is shown you are using does not have the best of synergy as diantha and may both like to be on their own seperate teams,
Diantha is great at aiding all rock damage dealers (and also a good unit to be paired with any physical DPS)
while Animay has a much more special and psychic ally supporting kit

rich needle
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Ehem

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for example animay is an amazing partner for Gio I assume this is not master mode so you may want to focus on medals