#Champion Stadium

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mellow linden
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If you have a 3/5 BP Morty he’d also be a slightly better tank than MistyDuck, but as long as you’re willing to reset at the start for at least 1 Trainer Move MP Refresh then MistyDuck will work fine

rain turret
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BP morty is mismagius,right?

mellow linden
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Yes

rain turret
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oh cool,I have him 3/5

mellow linden
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Is there a specific purpose to Nemona on the Maxie team?

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She doesn’t do much for Maxie or Courtney

north crown
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bro what is that

rain turret
mellow linden
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To 1 person and she offers almost no true support for Maxie

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Maxie will be wasting valuable Sun time buffing himself without a proper Support

rain turret
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how about nita?

north crown
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acutally goated support

mellow linden
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If you have a 3/5+ Sonia she’d be better, but Nita can work if need be

north crown
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a lot of physical DPS units need extra atk+spe, some having speed related damage buffs

rain turret
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my sonia is 1/5,she's a hard one to show up on the tickets lol

mellow linden
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On the Silver team, you’d be better off replacing Kiawe with an on-demand Sun setter like Blaine so that Silver can actually have Sun up when he uses his Sync Move. A ton of Silver’s damage comes from his Sync Move

north crown
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what the what is VKiawe doing there?

mellow linden
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Skyla would also be a better Support than Tina since Silver can handle his own offensive buffs if need be, but has no way to reliably buff his Speed for Inertia

north crown
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ik he's an ontyp pair but like

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there's no synergy

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well almost none

mellow linden
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On the Victor team, you’d likely want to replace Sycamore with a different Sp. Atk. buffer (ideally Sp. Atk. + crit) and replace Phoebe with another Ghost damage-dealer (Shadow Ball Giovanni can work if need be)

rain turret
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btw how does janine poisons the opponents?I know oleana does through her max move

mellow linden
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You don’t need to, Lucy handles the Poison

rain turret
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worst part is Idk if I have enough sync orbs to build everyone

north crown
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... but since you got Oleana handing everything poison stall needs, the poison satge should be a freebie

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since u can have 2 tanks

rotund lagoon
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Most Poison units have Poison as a secondary effect to regular moves. Some exceptions ofc

rain turret
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this might be a stupid question,but I do have to build everyone's sync grid,right?

north crown
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actaully no

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most 1/5 grids are useless

mellow linden
# rain turret worst part is Idk if I have enough sync orbs to build everyone

If you’re still somewhat new and lacking in resources then there’s no shame in dropping the point value down a bit. The rewards past ~4200 (which can be done with little to no difficulty increase over Hard Mode) are much less valuable, and even if you take it more slowly you’ll eventually find yourself with a ton of Champion Spirits and powerup tickets.

Heck, if you’re new to Master Mode in general I would recommend starting with 1500 points per stage (7500 points total) or lower

rain turret
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I got to 11.9k in a previous attempt this week

mellow linden
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That way you get used to the mode and its restrictions while you slowly build up your roster in preparation for more points

rotund lagoon
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Legendary Adventures pairs are top priority if you haven’t done any of them.

mellow linden
rain turret
north crown
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I see so many optimization problems it pains me EusineWhy

rich needle
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15k is like

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I just find it hassle because I have to optimize conditions

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Ugh

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Can’t brain dead clear

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What is this content

rain turret
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the fire team just a little bit,since SS hilda deals dmg with searing shot while kiawe reduces everyone's sp def,I just shoved tina cuz she debuffs atk with charm and her sync gives 2 buffs

nova imp
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I’m struggling because it’s so hard to quad queue

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Do you guys have a tip?

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I always click fast

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Like spamming

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And the opponent manages to select before me

pseudo hawk
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theres no tip for that, i know what you mean, its just really hard to pull it off before the opponent

nova imp
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is there maybe an auto clicker? lmao

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For ios

pseudo hawk
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ive managed it like twice before and ive been playing this game for a while

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oh i mean ig idk

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you just kinda have to deal with and/or find a different strat

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i dealt with that issue when i fought blue this week so i just changed up my approach

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its just something you have to work around

nova imp
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Eh it only works for me if I auto click

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I spent a long ass time finding this team and this strat

pseudo hawk
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i mean go ahead

nova imp
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Going through multiple changes so idk

pseudo hawk
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i just find solice in playing the game my way and not the game playing for me

nova imp
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I can’t do it

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I’ve tried over 100 times

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6 hours playtime today and I only focused on that

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I need help

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I hate rng

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And I hate quad queue not working sometimes

sharp willow
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some pairs simply are incapable of doing it

junior solstice
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true

nova imp
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I can’t do it

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I need help

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Really

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What can I do?

sharp willow
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what pair are you trying to quad queue with?

nova imp
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Giovanni

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You know I’ll probably just send a big ass text showing my strategy

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And you tell me how I can better it

junior solstice
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2.5k?

nova imp
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2.6

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I want 13k for 50 champion spirit

junior solstice
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i cant even do 2.5k kanto cs with that team

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quad queueing

toxic cobalt
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Switch Lucian for Elio

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Job done

rotund lagoon
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We also said Proton prevents quadqueuing

junior solstice
cinder summitBOT
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Proton’s Plan

Charges the user's move gauge by 1 when its move is successful. Charges the user's move gauge by 1 when it is hit by an attack move.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

10144000000 Proton & Golbat

junior solstice
rotund lagoon
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The gauge charge when hit, mainly

nova imp
# nova imp You know I’ll probably just send a big ass text showing my strategy

So there are 3 pairs:
Dps (Giovanni) with shadow ball, is grided with that
Support (Proton) with crit and sp atk buff as well as flinch
Tech (Lucian) debuffs everyone’s sp def and attack and with growl

My game starts doing 2 simple things:
-I put Lucian growl, proton tm and Giovanni tm (this order is important as any other pair at the end will trigger an effect after using a move, making it impossible to quad queue)
-I check if the enemy is either using shadow ball or dazzling gleam (does too much damage that will make me die some turns after) or X Speed (makes it unable to use it the turn before I sync, which is important as I cannot take damage before I sync as that would trigger proton’s ability, causing quad queue to be impossible)

Between the start and my first sync, I’ll use shadow ball after 1 tm from Giovanni and air slash from proton after he used 2 tms

After these steps are done, I arrive to quad queue, in which I have to get lucky to not be able to trigger an ability as well as being lucky to being able to quad queue

If I successfully managed to quad queue, I need to hope that proton won’t die some turns after, and then I have to quad queue yet again after my 2nd sync

If all of these steps are completed, I win
Best I arrived was being able to sync twice but not quad queue twice, which in turn made me lost

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Alright I’ll try out your strategy

nova imp
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I just wanna hear your opinions on my current strategy and why it fails

toxic cobalt
junior solstice
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isnt 1/5 proton on the more frail side

nova imp
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Only issue with Elio is that he doesn’t debuff

toxic cobalt
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Proton quadqueue sounds like hell

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Debuff deschmuff free 100 points

nova imp
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I’ve done this about 100 times

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6 hours today

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So yeah

nova imp
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So I’m more likely to die from the ice punches of dusk noir, that is super effective on proton

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That’s also a problem, sometimes that freezes proton and it’s a void run

toxic cobalt
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Why are you using Proton AshGoodGrief

junior solstice
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even i wouldnt spend more than 1-2 hrs on a ebe

nova imp
junior solstice
rotund lagoon
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Proton doesn’t even max Sp Atk at 1/5, please think over your teambuilding.

junior solstice
nova imp
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Hm I’ll try

junior solstice
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proton is kinda 🤮

nova imp
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I hate him

junior solstice
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i have him at 1/5 myself and i dont really use him often due to his buffing capabilities taking multiple turns to complete

rotund lagoon
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Please show your Supports.

nova imp
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I’ll try Elio but sure

junior solstice
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elio at 1/5 is rough

nova imp
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yeah…

junior solstice
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can you get troublemaker on elio?

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if not then probably forget it

nova imp
junior solstice
rotund lagoon
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Lillie, Sycamore, Sabrina, Roxanne, all good choices.

nova imp
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Sycamore isn’t

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I have standard damage

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Reduction

rotund lagoon
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?

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You know what Sycamore is meant for, right?

nova imp
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He can’t heal

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With horn leech

sharp willow
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he still will do ok, standard reduction will cut his sustainability a bit but he'll do alright

rotund lagoon
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If you think that is all Sycamore is for, look again.

nova imp
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There is another good grid combination?

rotund lagoon
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Have you read his kit?

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You need to look at the basics.

toxic cobalt
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Roxanne exist who care about sycamore SabrinaStraw

steel kelp
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What is this reading you speak of

rotund lagoon
nova imp
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Seems like rng hell

toxic cobalt
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She wants you to sync with sycamore

nova imp
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But he’s not exed

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Yet

toxic cobalt
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So?

rotund lagoon
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?

nova imp
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He will be next week

rotund lagoon
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Did you not read his kit?

nova imp
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You mean like adrenaline 1?

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That’s what we’re going for?

toxic cobalt
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No

nova imp
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The sync tiles

cinder summitBOT
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<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_FAIRY:967452395686756392> <:GROUP_SYNC:967457975612637265> Gentlemanly Geomancy

Power: -
Target: All allies
Effect Tag: -
Charges the user's move gauge by 2 for each allied sync pair on the field. When used in a co-op battle, charges the move gauges of all allied players by 2 instead. The higher the user's move level, the more it raises the Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed of all allied sync pairs (can be raised by up to 6 stat ranks maximum).

Sync Pairs with Move:

10136000000 Professor Sycamore & Xerneas

rotund lagoon
nova imp
sharp willow
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yes

nova imp
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I didn’t know that

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Damn

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Ok

rotund lagoon
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The kit comprises of moves, move effects, passives.

nova imp
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I’ll get that and adrenaline

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And it should work

rotund lagoon
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Please read the basics, we do not need to drag this on.

nova imp
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alright alright

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It’s not obvious for me

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I tried out a lot of stuff

toxic cobalt
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Learn the ways of the Sycamore

nova imp
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A lot was suggested

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Thanks

toxic cobalt
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Be the Sycamore

nova imp
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just go easy on me pls

nova imp
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Hey this could work

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I’m faithful

junior solstice
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the ways of the sycamore is to insta die to any physical move that 2.5k throws at you

toxic cobalt
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That’s okay it’s ghost Agatha

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Who amongst us hasn’t run stoic 2 Sycamore anyway

nova imp
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it kinda works?

junior solstice
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me.

nova imp
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What’s annoying is that Giovanni doesn’t do a lot of damage before sync

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So I kind of negate a lot of damage and I can’t kill before sync

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I can sync 2 times and all but still

toxic cobalt
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Your Giovanni is ghost gridded?

nova imp
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Yeah

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He has critical strike 2 as well

toxic cobalt
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Don’t see why he wouldn’t do damage

nova imp
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Want me to send a video maybe?

toxic cobalt
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Sure

junior solstice
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me struggling with nc leaf against agatha

rotund lagoon
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You sure Special Damage Reduction 8 isn’t on?

junior solstice
toxic cobalt
junior solstice
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nvm

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I only struggle cause agatha queues two syncs before i get to do anything

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kanto cs being way harder than unova cs says a lot

nova imp
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I mean I actually did manage to do it the first time and it didn’t so

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I don’t think even if I had managed to quad queue it would’ve worked

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It’s the damage in the start that kinda sucks

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I wonder if that can be fixed by adding something to Lucian? Idk

toxic cobalt
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…why are you stopping at +2 crit?

nova imp
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uh that’s right

junior solstice
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I JUST REALIZED THEY USED NOWHERE TO HIDE ONCE

nova imp
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I forgot proton isn’t here for that extra crit

junior solstice
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why are you syncing with mewtwo

nova imp
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Before 1 tm of gio + 2 tm of proton was enough for max

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You’re right

junior solstice
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😭

nova imp
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First time with sycamore

junior solstice
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sync with lucian

nova imp
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Why?

junior solstice
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for the extra sync buff

wide adder
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Standard damage reduction will make it do nothing anyways

nova imp
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??

wide adder
nova imp
junior solstice
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50% more dmg and standard damage reduction makes it dog crap

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sync buff gives you 50% more damage if you synced with somebody else

nova imp
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Yeah but Lucian is the same as Giovanni then?

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What?

junior solstice
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NO

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To put it simply

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sync with anybody but gio

wide adder
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You’re taking away a shadow ball by syncing with gio unless you quad it

junior solstice
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to try and fish the kill for gengar

wide adder
junior solstice
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then you should be fine

nova imp
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Right

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I can do that

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I’ll try

junior solstice
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wait i couldve done 2.5k cs with gio

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what am i doing 💀

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oops sorry no ping

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@nova imp if you manage to beat it, can i get settings for cs? i kinda need to reattempt agatha since my settings probably made it too hard to beat her and i didnt do 12.5k

wide adder
nova imp
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no fucking way that worked

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6 hours

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Damn

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6 hours that could’ve been prevented

junior solstice
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we don't talk about that

nova imp
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I should’ve asked for help sooner

junior solstice
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one simple mistake can cost you hours

junior solstice
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PrycePain replying is a habit myb

wide adder
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There’s a no ping button on replying for a reason

junior solstice
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anyway i do have ghost victor but hes kinda PrycePain

nova imp
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Spectrier Ubers meta

junior solstice
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2.6k with minimum investment? jesus i think i had the wrong settings

wide adder
wide adder
junior solstice
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actually?

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I tried gio and ghost victor and man did nothing

wide adder
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Sync and max move go brrrrr

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As long as you max their stats ofc

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Which is why special support

nova imp
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this is my team against Lorelei? Do I stand a chance?

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I died before

junior solstice
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definitely not

nova imp
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k

junior solstice
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The crit shield and blizzard damage is simply too much imo

nova imp
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This team was recommend by y’all that’s why I was asking

junior solstice
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and no buffer for bea

nova imp
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Do I send my roster?

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I need some help team building for this one

junior solstice
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sure though i cant guarantee you that it would work

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ive tried bea and shes horrendous without ex

wide adder
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Lorelei is painful cause she stacks evasion on hit

nova imp
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.

wide adder
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I literally used Darach to get rid of evasion and crit shield Hopium

nova imp
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I learned a lot about team building here so I think I have an ideia?

junior solstice
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is there any possible way you can try off typing?

nova imp
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I mean I have like ss Hilda ss red and ss morty but I was saving them for blue

junior solstice
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or any haze units?

nova imp
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I have brycen

junior solstice
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brycen is probably not going to cut it

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send roster and lets see if we can try to help

junior solstice
nova imp
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She’s taken

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I used her as a ground type against Bruno

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Breezed

junior solstice
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poison stall would probably be your best bet

nova imp
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Yeah I’ll try it out

junior solstice
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unless bea somehow pulls through

nova imp
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Actually scrap that

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My lucy is 1/5

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I can’t grid it properly

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And she’s a banner unit so I’m not candying that

junior solstice
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do you have lucky cookies?

tired sleet
nova imp
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hm

junior solstice
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you can probably try turn denying lorelei somehow and pray for meteor assault hits

nova imp
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Should’ve grinded more legendary gauntlet

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Got lazy

junior solstice
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or you could do sure hits

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maylene is pretty good

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but you need a good gauge support since meteor assault is a gauge drain

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bp clemont or maylene works but figure out a buffer and a unit that makes gauge management better

nova imp
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A

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I’ll try some things out

junior solstice
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your attempt for 2.6k seems like a hell hole 💀

nova imp
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Yeah…

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I really wanna get champion spirit though

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So I can ex blue

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And next week proton

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Then I’ll get sycamore from events

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And the next attempts should be a breeze

nova imp
grand trout
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Oh hi turismo

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How's it going

zealous karma
versed meteor
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Do yall think hoenn is next?

silver dirge
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I believe Lost was predicting Sinnoh

main crow
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Either end result would be 'fun' WhatchaTalkinAbt

old orchid
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Next one should be Alola to complete a cycle, unless they come up with a new region

main crow
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Paldea CS early debut

dawn gull
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is a focus blast build solgaleo good for this weeks cs against lorelei

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he does good dmg , but lorelei's crit defense messes everything up

old orchid
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Solgaleo is very good against Lorelei, but yeah Crit Shield is a problem

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You can bring a Defog user to clear shields away

cinder summitBOT
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<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_FLYING:967452395820945438> Defog

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Clears the entire terrain and zone effects. Clears all field effects from the opponents' field of play. Lowers the target's evasiveness by 1 stat rank.

Sync Pairs with Move:

10150000001 Falkner & Pidgeot
10159000000 Darach & Staraptor
10215000000 Lisia & Altaria

dawn gull
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is darach a good option ?

old orchid
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He is

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Yes

dawn gull
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rn i use kiawe (1/5) , solagaleo ( focus blast build) , ss blue (1/5)

old orchid
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That team cant stall until Crit Shield fades

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Do you have other crit buffers who help with gauge too?

dawn gull
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i cant tank 2nd sync

old orchid
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So you can slot in Darach

dawn gull
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replace who ?

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i still need kiawe , and blue to get +3 crit

old orchid
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Can you send your support roster

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Uh Solgeleo can buff his own crit

dawn gull
keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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  1. No, but also 2) even so, you don't need Kiawe and SS Blue
dawn gull
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maybye i have to sacrifice few focus blast powerups to get those

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should i get both or only 1 ?

toxic cobalt
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You should only get sharp entry but I'm not sure what you'd have to give up

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What is the current grid?

dawn gull
old orchid
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Oh yeah i forgot Solgaleo has Sharp Entry for some reasons

toxic cobalt
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Get rid of everything on the bottom right

dawn gull
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even spd 2

toxic cobalt
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yes

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far too expensive to reach

nova imp
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This is as far as I’ve gotten poison stalling, any way to extend my hp?

dawn gull
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like this ?

toxic cobalt
toxic cobalt
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But it shoudl work yes

dawn gull
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not even mgr ?

nova imp
toxic cobalt
dawn gull
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alright

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and wht should i pick up ?

toxic cobalt
toxic cobalt
nova imp
toxic cobalt
nova imp
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She’s not 1/5

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I candied and now she’s 4* and grided

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3/5 too

toxic cobalt
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Hmm are you getting mpr for her heal?

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It can get a bit rng

nova imp
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I copied your grid

toxic cobalt
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Yes but are you getting lucky SophoKEK

nova imp
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Idk

toxic cobalt
dawn gull
nova imp
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Oh

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Ok I’ll try yet again

toxic cobalt
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Reset if you don't get +6spdef

nova imp
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Got it

dawn gull
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after this , should i drop kiawe ? for swimsuit misty ?

toxic cobalt
dawn gull
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oh fish

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my bad

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alright ill sub in darach

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ouch now i am in trouble for survivability

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@toxic cobalt should i clear the sides in the beginning and then after my 1st sync should i start attacking the center ??

toxic cobalt
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You should almost never clear the sides at the beginning

dawn gull
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i tried at end

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but i coudnt make it before 2nd sync

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plus tht look alive 9 is annoying asf

toxic cobalt
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The expectation is that Solgaleo's +6 acc handles most of that

dawn gull
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yeah , but he stil miss

toxic cobalt
dawn gull
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for some goddamn reason

toxic cobalt
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Are you making sure to hit the sides with your tanks to ensure the evasiveness doens't increase too fast?

dawn gull
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yup

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i did tht

toxic cobalt
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How far are you from finishing mid?

dawn gull
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okay i barely made it with 1 hp SophoKEK

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thx a lot @toxic cobalt

toxic cobalt
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If it worked it worked

dawn gull
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absolutely

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a win is a win

nova imp
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Well

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I managed to poison stall Lorelei

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And only blue remained

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Can’t say I struggled

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Went kinda overkill

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13k baby

silver dirge
olive aspen
fluid vessel
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This is for a unfriendly redditor

junior solstice
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ive yet to make a poison stall team

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I should 😭

north crown
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anyone struggling so far?

fluid vessel
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Me: requires a 30% miss
The game: gives you a 0.4% natural crit freeze

tulip python
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Lapras is walking me hard

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Why is she so Tanky

toxic cobalt
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Because she makes you Miss

tulip python
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And that evasion buff is nonsense

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Even my OP cheese electric team

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Doesn’t do enough to murder

toxic cobalt
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Have you tried not missing? SabrinaPray

tulip python
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Wally is terrible even with his accuracy buff

toxic cobalt
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so true

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Anyone who does nuke damage not dps?

tulip python
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Closest I got was

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Bea, Aura Cynth, and Urshifu

old orchid
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friendly reminder that stalling is always an option

tulip python
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Wait a min

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Doesn’t Deoxys has

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Have* downside up

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Which would negate this evasive nonsense

toxic cobalt
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That is not how that works SophoKEK

silver dirge
toxic cobalt
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You can either 1) stall 2) use nukes instead of dps 3) get lucky

silver dirge
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They're not debuffing your accuracy, they're buffing their own evasion

tulip python
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Right, but doesn’t deoxys naturally debuff himself

silver dirge
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You could also try and bring an accuracy buffer

tulip python
silver dirge
toxic cobalt
silver dirge
toxic cobalt
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Wait does 5 stats down work like that for SS Steven???

silver dirge
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Yeah it buffs him instead

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That would work indeed

toxic cobalt
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BarryPogChamp New Garednia meta

tulip python
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Well then

silver dirge
toxic cobalt
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SUPPORTS ARE NOW REDUNDANT

paper summit
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but then the enemy keeps the buffs, that's a horrible idea WEEZing

silver dirge
toxic cobalt
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Enemy buff is a separate param

silver dirge
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Will + Haze EthanGenius

paper summit
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no, I mean the Will route

toxic cobalt
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ah the Will route. But we do it for Will MallowHeart

silver dirge
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I should try Fall Roxanne and Will, steal copy their stats and then turn them into debuffs

paper summit
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ngl I keep forgetting to use that debuff parameter with SS Hilda

silver dirge
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Same

paper summit
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granted she doesn't need it with her instant setup TM

silver dirge
#

True

paper summit
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neither does Steven

silver dirge
#

It helps both of them if 3/5

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Rising Tide stonks

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Oh wait is Steven's an innate?

paper summit
#

I guess, but Hilda maxes it out with only one V-Create use, Steven is the one that'd benefit a bit

paper summit
silver dirge
#

Ahh right

tulip python
#

Omg that stupid thing works

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I got super close

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Steven is just a very big glass cannon

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But I almost got Lapras

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Just. Need extra Tanky

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And to mess with these parameters a bit

nocturne pawn
#

the -5 stats down doesnt lower accuracy anyway

silver dirge
#

Oh true SophoKEK

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Speed, Attack, Sp Attack, Defense, SpDef?

onyx ice
#

Yes only the main stats

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No evasion/accuracy

silver dirge
cold lake
#

who is good to tank for that strat?

old orchid
#

Depends on the tank. Typically you want to use Impervious or Unbending + Stalwart tanks

peak stirrup
#

Still struggling vs Agatha. Using SSR Cynthia/NC Calem/Irida

old orchid
#

Replace Irida with a Ghost zone abuser

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You might have to change CCalem depending on the dmg dealer

peak stirrup
old orchid
#

Rule of thumbs: dont build teams around theme skills and master passives

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No need to ping me

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Accessible ones are Giovanni, Shauntal and Fantina

peak stirrup
#

It’s not built around that. Irida’s B move gives -4 Sp Def to boost sync move

old orchid
#

I assume Giratina is 3/5?

peak stirrup
#

Yes and EX

old orchid
#

Zone setters are meant to be paired with another dmg dealer

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I would save Irida for another team

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Giratina sync hits hard without maxed Smarty Pants anyway

peak stirrup
#

But her sync is physical. Another dmg dealer would do next to nothing because they are special

old orchid
#

Giratina Shadow Ball is special LanceShrug you can turn off both physical and special dmg reduction

peak stirrup
#

Is barely enough to beat the mid but sides take me down immediately

old orchid
#

What params are you using

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And your team too

peak stirrup
#

Old pre sync parameters with strength +1 and Hp +8 for 3k
Tried both NC Calem and then SS Elesa with Gio and SSR

silver dirge
#

You're stacking a lot of HP & Strength there, do you have both power on hits, all Atk ⬆️ picked up?

grand trout
#

Hp +8 will give you a tough time

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That was my first pick when trying out 3k too

toxic cobalt
#

Just Giratina as support would clear easy, run like Shauntal

grand trout
#

Shauntal supremacy

silver dirge
#

I tried SSR Cynthia + Lucian + Sonia, she doesn't even need max setup to one-shot mid. A single shadow force takes out either side. Don't pickup that much HP unless you've planned for it accordingly, you should be going hyper offensive (all attack, POH) and then make the rest up with strength (after you've taken all the other viable params)

rose ermine
#

I got farty to work on 3k

silver dirge
#

Dedication BlueYea

main crow
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Great work soldier salute

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What was the team tho I'm curious

silver dirge
#

Me too PSerenaDrool

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I was almost inspired by this to try out Summer Lyra today, but then remembered sleep multipliers RedNah immediate no

main crow
#

Just use Delphox SerenaSip

silver dirge
#

I have SS Cyrus MinaBreak

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It's just such a weird multiplier to work with

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Also this, what was my girl cooking EvelynNotLikeThis

main crow
#

Blud don't even have rest and have to rely on enemy to have sleep

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What was she cooking

silver dirge
#

Me when I have to wait for the enemy to hypnosis, which is like only some Shauntal stages iirc?

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And there is no fairy weak shauntal DrakePain

main crow
#

And you have to risk putting Lyra as the first target too

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None have a go viral sleep

silver dirge
#

Ah of course

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Amazing

main crow
#

Game design is my passion

silver dirge
#

We love a well thought-through kit

grand trout
#

Just be shauntal and inflict status on yourself

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Smh

silver dirge
#

She's like NY Lisia in that she synergises with none of the fairy zone/rebuff units, but 10x worse

grand trout
#

Wait, why none?

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Oh

silver dirge
#

Just synergy SeleneLul you can make it work

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but it's not ideal

rose ermine
grand trout
#

At least she has... jigglypunk...right?

silver dirge
rose ermine
#

Nccalem is fucking op here

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Morty just needs to evade like 2-3 times

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And he wins

grand trout
#

Is this agatha stage

rose ermine
#

Ye

grand trout
#

...anabel battle

rose ermine
#

I am not trying that

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I tried it once

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I'm 100% sure she had 1 million hp

grand trout
#

Like wallace tm

silver dirge
#

HilbertHmm I'm not sure actually

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I don't recall one

main crow
#

Unless you have a water leopard of course SerenaSip

silver dirge
#

DarachISee Leopard

grand trout
main crow
#

KriSS

silver dirge
#

Oh right SeleneLul

silver dirge
#

Maybe I should just try Dazzling Gleam DPS isntead and pair with penny

main crow
#

Stack her with SMUN

silver dirge
grand trout
#

Hi turismo

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Did you finish smun yet

nova imp
#

smun?

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I wad doing csmm

silver dirge
#

Special Move up Next

#

Oh wait

silver dirge
nova imp
#

just came by to recommend poison stall on lorelei

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not that hard and pretty cheap

#

I finished yesterday mine

#

13k

main crow
#

Stall is a ol' reliable

silver dirge
#

yea can't really go wrong with stall

nova imp
main crow
#

That's what I did when I first face Wallace poison

hushed lintel
#

i just killed her with rei

silver dirge
#

Well yea but not everyone has Rei

main crow
#

I have Oleana now so whenever Hoeen rotates back time for some sweet revenge LucianScheme

nova imp
#

kanto is pretty easy

silver dirge
nova imp
#

you know what would be fun

#

galar league

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master fair champion leon

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as the boss

main crow
#

Oh shit you got a Tate from mix

#

That's awesome

silver dirge
#

LeonWow yeaa

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Will be interesting to see what the response will be to the harder regions @ 3K points

#

I expect some turmoil TabithaHehe

main crow
#

Mix is super tempting but I'm saving at least 15k for whenever Drayden or Kabu drops as spotlight Distress

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Super IF

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Kabu has a chance to be pokefair

silver dirge
silver dirge
main crow
#

That would mean DeNA Have to acknowledge the other galar gym leaders

silver dirge
main crow
#

Aka release Milo Kabu and Opal

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Oh and Peony

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He was part of the Galar tourney lineup in the game

silver dirge
#

yea

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speaking of, I wish the special stadiums were a little more common lol

#

those are fun

main crow
#

Fairy special stadium BarryPogChamp

silver dirge
main crow
#

Time for Sycamore dps propaganda

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Wait there's fairy this weak time to cook

silver dirge
onyx ice
#

At least you can offtype, and your tank doesn't needs to be fairy

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However there are some good fairy tank options

onyx ice
#

Mix would have been interesting if it offered a free gems option too

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Even if it was a single 300 regular gems pull a day

grand trout
#

Hmmm psychic next week

silver dirge
#

Let's be careful not to get bonked for off-topic in the CS chat MinaBreak

grand trout
#

I wonder which one can be used

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I think I'll try Bianca

main crow
#

I am now advocating Lucian nuke

grand trout
#

Good choice, but dps

silver dirge
#

Oh finally there's Dark weak, I'm going for NC Calem nuke TabithaHehe

main crow
#

Bianca and Lucian

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they're both so stupid on the same team

grand trout
#

What if i use nanu next week IrisDerp

main crow
#

bianca dps and lucian nuke

silver dirge
main crow
grand trout
#

Nanu has a good nuke... right?

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Actually nvm

main crow
#

also lance stop giving me evasion x all PrycePain

grand trout
#

I hate using silver units on mm

grand trout
#

It... doesn't look good

main crow
#

Nanu is pretty nice imo

silver dirge
grand trout
#

Yes but 4*

silver dirge
main crow
#

hmm now i want to use Nanu next week

silver dirge
#

Relentless is easy to setup, Double Down 5 & Critastrophe are free, I guess if you bring a reliable flincher it's not too bad

grand trout
#

How about bp karen

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Wait, if i get umbreon from the ticket (unlikely) I'll use her

silver dirge
#

She doesn't have much of a nuke at all

grand trout
#

When do we get the ticket btw

silver dirge
#

And her DPS is well Double Edge

grand trout
onyx ice
#

203 attack at 6ex + ex role, and absolutely no multiplier, definitely can't be classified as a nuke

grand trout
#

And by dps she damages herself a lot

#

Per second

silver dirge
grand trout
silver dirge
onyx ice
#

NC calem

silver dirge
#

Well of course SeleneLul I'm still going to try it though

grand trout
#

Is it tomorrow?

silver dirge
#

Nah it's not for a while

grand trout
#

Booooo

silver dirge
#

4-5ish days I think

grand trout
#

That's too farr

onyx ice
#

I guess BP Karen is fine if you don't plan to take all the opponents out with just her DPS and don't buff the HP too much

grand trout
#

I just realized my dark roster is kinda undiverse

#

WAIT WHAT IF

#

Grimsley gaming

silver dirge
onyx ice
#

If you go Double DPS, or even just Karen DPS + sync nuker she should be fine

grand trout
#

I have good units for dark

#

It's just

main crow
#

I see ex piers

mellow linden
#

Can do Masked Royal + Nessa + Support

grand trout
#

They're always the same formula

main crow
#

night slash gaming

onyx ice
#

And dark isn't lacking accessible dark nukers

grand trout
#

I just want something out of the box

silver dirge
#

You could do Grimsley if you really want to then

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GrimsleyDisgust it's easy to setup

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Just gotta Snatch before you nuke, and 2 TMs of his max out Blind Spot

grand trout
#

Btw i just remembered i did grimsley last unova

onyx ice
#

Sidney is a great general pool dark nuker

grand trout
#

#1011170238617899030 message

onyx ice
#

Grimsley nuke is okayish but his DPS is horrible

grand trout
#

Dark pulse flinch gaming

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If all else fails I'll just resort to furbert or Sidney i guess

onyx ice
#

Yes if you want to roll for the flinches is ok, but his DPS is quite atrocious

main crow
#

@ Arch furbert mention

onyx ice
#

Night slash is pretty bad, and dark pulse would work if they didn't have him support eggmon special attack stat

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And not that his attack stat is any good

grand trout
#

Sidney doesn't need to compete for first sync like blue does, does he?

main crow
#

Sidney has mega

onyx ice
#

Sidney doesn't need to mega

sharp willow
#

he likes to mega, but it's not necessary for passive changes or anything iirc

grand trout
#

Karen also needs to mega

onyx ice
#

For some reasons 1st sync is crit strike 3 and not crit strike 5 from mega

onyx ice
main crow
#

She wants her dark pulse dps

grand trout
#

Is it just me or CS thread is moved upwards

onyx ice
#

I guess you can still support ex, spam snarl and nuke with her second sync

grand trout
#

Yeahhh karen used to be one of my go-to darks so im averse to using her

#

I guess I'll go the Sidney route

fluid vessel
#

By far the worst Ball Guy experience

light dune
#

Could I get tips for (potentially) max score Lorelei? I only have f2p fighting pairs like bea, wally, and MC Solgaleo

old orchid
#

Can you show your entire roster please? Preferably post your sync pair tracker image or you can take screenshot of your roster in move level tab ingame

light dune
old orchid
#

Poison stalling is also a good and brainless strat

light dune
#

So far I've used NC Blue, Aaron, Phoebe, SS Blue, and NC Calem on other teams, and I'm planning on using SS May and NC Leaf for Blue

old orchid
#

Quite a tough one. Solgaleo without power boost needs some heavy support to get through. And your Wally and Bea are not invested well

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So poison stalling is the best option

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You can read and ask about poison stalling tips in this thread #1097597679015567420

light dune
#

Ok, I haven't tried poison stall before, but I'll give it a try

tulip python
#

I took 3 days of trying

#

Damn you to hell Lapras

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But I got you

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I got you

#

Meanwhile the “champion” was a joke

#

Lorelei walled me for days. The pain.

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If there is ever a unit solely designed to deal with Lapras I am pulling SophoKEK

keen jasper
#

You should do what I did

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Use 2 Focus Blast DPS against Lorelei

swift swan
#

Bring a nuker 🥱

tulip python
#

Or is really my only good fighting unit

#

Usually end up with Urshifu for the op defense down

swift swan
#

Under zone she should be able to kill mid with sync + 1 or 2 meteor assaults

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I presynced Lorelei under half sync countdown parameter

keen jasper
silver dirge
#

Dojo Gloria also has burst damage with that max move

tulip python
keen jasper
silver dirge
#

Sure she can, she's got Rei

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And Aura Cynthia I believe

keen jasper
#

Well, they have it easy with limited fighting damage dealers, I don't even have a single limited fighting damage dealer

silver dirge
keen jasper
silver dirge
#

Yea I know about the crit shield they said physical damage down

keen jasper
#

And applies Reflect after her sync

silver dirge
#

Ah if you're post syncing and you've got both Reflect & Crit Shield then ... just presync it SeleneLul

tulip python
#

Clearly I must have been doing something wrong if pre sync with 3k parameters was a thing

silver dirge
#

Pre-sync with 3K parameters is the thing

tulip python
#

I will die of laughter if I was my own worst enemy on this one lol

silver dirge
#

You can get away with post-sync on the easier regions, cos they've got low base HP (& non threatening passives)

#

But you're going to be punished heavily if you stack HP, Strength instead of POH/Offense on Hoenn/Kalos/Sinnoh

keen jasper
#

You only do HP parameters if you're confident your damage dealers can presync the enemies

onyx ice
#

With Lorelei I guess you should go hyper offense and try to clear before CRIT shield

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And don't attack the center with your support, you will only increase evasion

wide adder
#

AAAAAAAAAAA im slightly panicked mentally cause for a moment i forgot Fighting weak will be repeating at the end of the month. really wish a bruno stage had a repeat instead of Lorelei.

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at least that time ill have a better clue in advance for what i can do about it ig

dark osprey
calm marsh
#

+6 Evasion and i ate 3 Double Edge in a row

silver dirge
north crown
#

Does anyone need help? I'm quite literally stuck in my rl setting, so I can do whatever.

rotund lagoon
wide adder
dapper forum
#

I cant even beat lorelai 2500. Any help?

silver dirge
dapper forum
#

No

silver dirge
#

You've done all 12.5k points before?

dapper forum
#

Ive done 12.5k once but never did kanto yet

silver dirge
#

Alright that's cool then, Kanto is one of the easiest. Gimmi one sec

nocturne pawn
#

maylene is a free accuracy buffer

#

well

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actually you shouldnt even need it

dapper forum
#

For some reason i have a hard time damaging her

#

She has evasion and crit negation or something

silver dirge
#

She does yea, ideally you should aim to clear before she sets up crit shield

#

Replace Hilbert there for Skyla, you don't need 2 physical buffers

#

And go for the EX sync with her sync 1

#

Just checking also, Solgaleo isn't powerboosted I'm assuming?

dapper forum
#

Nope

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Sadly still new so didnt do that event

silver dirge
#

Okay try Skyla + Hop + Solgaleo and see if that works

#

Also which parameters are you using?

dapper forum
#

On type pre sync more hp

silver dirge
#

Switch to on type pre sync more damage, Skyla & Hop can handle it

dapper forum
#

Will give it a try and see thx!

silver dirge
toxic cobalt
#

If it doesn’t work try Elio to cheese it

dapper forum
#

I beat it took a few tries.

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wild to me how i can have one op striker defeat a 3k in like one sync and then i have to do many tries to beat this 2.5k

#

13.5k points good enough.

onyx ice
#

This Lorelei is probably one of the hardest Kanto stages just because evasion and CRIT shield

manic mica
#

Can someone give tips for Lorelei, I stupidly left her to last ,these are my fighting sync pairs

old orchid
#

you are doing hard mode right?

#

if yes, can you show us your type medal progress as well?

manic mica
#

Wait how do I find the type medal

#

This is all I could find

old orchid
#

there is a progress button on the preview menu of the fight

manic mica
old orchid
#

thats right

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your aim is unlocking many types as possible

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if you have some free time, can you fill your sync pair tracker out? we want to know your roster

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+tracker

frozen depotBOT
manic mica
#

Did it

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(Idk how to make the number in the corner more than 1)

old orchid
#

watch the video above closely

manic mica
#

Did it :3

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Btw I have like no sync orbs at all

swift swan
#

<desperately trying to find solgaleo

manic mica
#

I dont have Solgaleo

swift swan
#

you should get it from Legendary Adventures

manic mica
#

Is it good

swift swan
#

he's good for Lorelei as he counters Lorelei's evasion with accuracy buffing

#

plus he's free, no reason not to get him

manic mica
#

Okiii

swift swan
#

doing R4 Lorelei means you have to tank the sync, so a special defense buffer as the tank would be great

#

top off Solgaleo's buffs with a crit buffer

manic mica
#

Okiii

manic mica
#

LETS GOOO

silver dirge
#

SidneyYippee congrats

glass thicket
#

I finally did it - 15,000 points! Free to play 102 day account, PR 65.
BrockChamp

Posting my teams and order here if it helps anyone.

manic mica
#

They might tell you to redirect to stage clears channel lol

#

Good units though!

paper summit
#

yes, we might CynthiaSmug

glass thicket
# nova imp interesting team for lorelei

Sycamore was to boost special defense by 6 with his sync. Otherwise the Lapras one shots Bea on the 2nd sync move. Sonia was just an efficient healer with defense crush.

nova imp
#

I used a poison stall team

glass thicket
mellow linden
#

I assume they mean post-Sync parameters

glass thicket
#

Okay what are post-sync parameters? 😅

mellow linden
#

From the parameter examples in the pins. Post-Sync parameters mean you don’t care whether or not the opponent Syncs

glass thicket
#

Oh that's cool, I've never seen that pin before so didn't get the lingo. I've never put a name to my strategies but my usual go to is aim for the long game (6-9 buffs). I always start by stacking max HP and usually gradual healing too, then build from there.

#

This is what I used for Lorelei:

||Spec Dmg reduction
No status conditions
Interference immunity
Tech takes x3 Dmg
Sync buff +5
Def/SpDef +3
Max HP +2
No Stat Reduction
Ally Healing -5
Spec Dmg reduction 8
Gradual healing at start
No weather / zones
Sync cooldown -2
Ally HP at start -5
Max HP +4
Ally move gauge -2
Max HP +6
Standard damage reduction 8
Max HP +8||

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I also just realized I mentioned defense crush with Sonia earlier but forgot I turned off stat reduction during the some of the final attempts. So that part didn't matter.

mellow linden
#

The 50 point Physical Damage Reduction and Special Damage Reduction parameters are totally free, all they do is set Reflect and Light Screen which are ignored by crits

glass thicket
tame gust
#

Pfft. Okay I know I could’ve handled this fight better but this finish amused me.

fluid vessel
#

Crit Shield should not be allowed to be part of their movepool

latent eagle
#

Round 1 agatha dazzling gleam keeps 1 shotting hex and Giovanni LarryDead LarryDead LarryDead LarryDead

old orchid
#

you picked Tech and Strike Take x3 damage params

latent eagle
#

Ah, it’s on the basic 2500 points so— this is only my second time doing 3000 points so parameters are still iffy for me lol

old orchid
#

its okay, be careful next time

silver dirge
# latent eagle Ah, it’s on the basic 2500 points so— this is only my second time doing 3000 poi...

The basic 2.5k parameters are still meant to be adjusted for your team, the "Adjust your parameters!" heading in the 3k guide still applies to the 2.5k presets as well. If you're not making use of a certain thing (field effects for example) in your battle, that parameter (Can't change WTZ) should be selected. In contrast, if you are making use of a weather/terrain/zone, then you obviously should not be picking up that parameter.

rose ermine
#

Which types do i low ex's against,that would definitely suffer in 3k csmm?

old orchid
#

you should show their move level

#

looking at your EX'd units, i dont think you will struggle in CSMM at all, beside Fairy type

rose ermine
#

Yeah fairy is really where I always struggle

#

Who would be really good to ex for fairy 3k?

old orchid
#

i would say BP Valerie, she is literally your best Fairy dmg dealer

rose ermine
#

Move levels

#

Ok

old orchid
#

1/5 SS Mina is a bit awkward, she cant maintain zone long enough till the second sync normally

rose ermine
#

Working on it

#

She'll be 3/5 in two months,if I use a Omni candy 2 weeks

old orchid
#

if you have some Sprint/Field units or too many options in other roles waiting for candies, i recommend saving the omni

manic kiln
#

don't even need the zone to clear 3k

rose ermine
#

I have 0 field and sprint units

#

I think my demand for candies in roles is high

#

Yeah quite a bit of demand

junior crown
#

I don't recommend to candy/ex because of CS

#

do your faves as you have in the list

rose ermine
#

Yeah I am doing that

#

Currently top contenders for my Omni is piers/guzma and ssmina

#

I gave up on irida

old orchid
rose ermine
#

I think I have a few properly invested offtypers

manic kiln
#

ex is fine tho, you'll eventually ex all the units you want
just save the candies for your faves, most of the time 1/5 limited units can clear 2.5k/3k

latent eagle
#

I can just about make it with this team for R1, I can KO mid before sync but then sides take out mewtwo w/ blizzard or icy wind

old orchid
#

Having SS Brendan and Sycamore in the same team is rebundant

manic kiln
#

ditch sycamore, you won't sync with him anyway

old orchid
#

do you have Event Victor or SSR Cynthia?

#

if you dont have them, use another Ghost type dmg dealer in Sycamore's place

latent eagle
#

If haze is needed from Victor it won’t do anything, I had to put no stat reduction on

silver dirge
#

You're running Giovanni whose got Brainteaser & SS Brendan who sets up that Brainteaser really easily, but have no stat reduction on?

old orchid
#

also you can pick Five Stats Up as a free parameter

cold lake
#

Who's best for the half-sync modifier this week?

#

Maybe Lance?

mellow linden
#

It depends entirely on your team(s)

cold lake
#

Gardevoir with quick Fini buffing

#

I really don't like 3k points but at least it makes me justified for using broken pairs

mellow linden
#

If you feel that team can KO fast enough for the early Sync to not be an issue then go ahead

#

The important thing with half-Sync round is to make sure your team can handle it

hearty lynx
#

3K Lorelei was kind of a challenge

#

i used Darach

wicked pebble
#

How does this look?

zealous karma
#

Strong

mellow linden
#

Tbh your roster is at a point where you can just give CS a shot 1st and adjust/ask for assistance as needed

#

Especially for Kanto CS and/or if you’re doing a lower point value

hidden ore
#

Never thought I’d ask again about Champion Stadium, but here we are
Is r4 Lorelei a bad one?
Can’t figure parameters for 3k ontype

#

With Bea & CHop

#

Round 4

nocturne pawn
#

that should be free

#

probably run maylene or 3/5 aaron

#

cuz she has evasion buff when hit

hidden ore
#

Ooh now I know why this failed (maybe?)
The gear wasn’t fighting but skill NFacepalm

#

But Lorelei’s sync killed me

plush tangle
#

Just give her less strength and attack

old orchid
#

You should kill her before the sync

hidden ore
#

I’ll try Aaron then

nocturne pawn
#

you’re probably just getting screwed by evasion

hidden ore
nocturne pawn
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there’s absolutely no way bea and chop should ever see sync

old orchid
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Basically use the 2.5k pre sync atk up with added strength or a few parameters

hidden ore
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Do we use zone here?

nocturne pawn
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yes?

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why wouldnt you

old orchid
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Can try tanking with Hop and pick Support x3 dmg

hidden ore
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No stat resuction?

old orchid
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Personally i would pick that param

hidden ore
old orchid
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Your aim is clearing the stage pre sync, so Sync Buff and a couple of atk up are free parameters

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Replace strength params with them

hidden ore
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Thanks!

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Helped so much

blazing narwhal
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Any lorelei tips

old orchid
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If you cant clear before crit shield, try poison stalling

blazing narwhal
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I got it

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Crit shield was no problem but bea kept dying on first sync even with ssa Cynthia I just had to change some parameters to get her to survive that

blazing narwhal
north crown
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I used 2/5 Red EX, Wally EX, 1/5 NCHop this week on r3. Wally's nuke + SEUP made that clear really quick.

blazing narwhal
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Ngl half sync countdown really is an easy win most of the time for me. First enemy sync doesn’t hit as hard and you get to supp ex or nuke much faster

old orchid
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Problem is crit shield tho

north crown
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defog:

blazing narwhal
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Yea I beat it with her. I copied the params from the in game example clears lol

latent eagle
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So i WAS gonna avoid doing Lance R4…..and then forgot…..so now im stuck doing him R4….i feel like this team might work if i could survive sync….LarryDead LarryDead LarryDead LarryDead it’s probably a parameter issue that I can’t see that’s obvious lol

old orchid
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Replace Lillie with a defense buffer

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Since you are going to post sync, dont pick sync buff 5 and too many atk params

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Tbh Sycamore doesnt do much there, since you picked Special DR

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Better using defense buffer + defense debuffer (preferably who can help with gauge) and focus on BP Valerie

latent eagle
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Had to switch to my post sync parameter tab but how’s this for parameters?

manic kiln
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valerie is very frail tho i doubt she can tank the sync even with def buffs and atk debuffs

old orchid
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Why do you pick 5 stats down tho

old orchid
north crown
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or use mina

latent eagle
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Wasn't sure what else to pick without being overpowered 3000 points is new to me so im still trying to get the hang of it

manic kiln
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it is new to all of us, you just have to spend more time testing your team with different params

north crown
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you just need to live long enough for your DPS to do their thing

old orchid
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You should check out the 3k guide in the pins

latent eagle
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I've been staring at the pins but im honestly not good at making my own parameters oof, gonna try off typing bc I got close w/ pikas n ch blue

swift swan
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the general rule of thumb is to not pick up defense params unless you're stalling. and don't stack too much strength with HP because it'll be too much bulk

surreal forge
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I change role dmg reduction 8 acc to role I use

silver dirge
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Looks good to me, if it works it works

surreal forge
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Yea it does

thin pecan
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Any tips for Bruno?

sand karma
crystal galleon
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15k looks like "I'm glad that CS is optional in difficulty"

keen jasper
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Until DeNA directly increases the points to 20k pts., then the points increase won't matter to me

crystal galleon
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I'll stick with 12.5k, but it's nice to know we can be masochists by means other than gacha odds

fluid vessel
silver dirge
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Either way no obligation to do it, rewards are pretty inconsequential

swift swan
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updated

fluid vessel
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another week of better status

keen jasper
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Hey, at least we get the R1 and R2 parameters at least

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Time for SS Diantha to kick Blue's ass with perma rock zone

grave wyvern
toxic cobalt