Champion Stadium

[vestal echo]

closing in on another voucher tho but its the one i can use on cobalion tho

[lime raven]

only because i was saving my other supports

[silver dirge]

Let's not recommend that to people asking for help, because that's a horrible idea

If it works it works but it's not ideal, can just be confusing

[lime raven]

Just gonna put this out there rn blue should be easy for them

[silver dirge]

That's fine, Mina is also a good fairy type nuke, you should have her. But like I said before, don't jump straight into 3K points if you're not confident with 2.5K or less points yet

[vestal echo]

i do fine on 2,5k pts

[lime raven]

Also

3K is basically asking for a few resets here and there

Dont expect to get it right the first time

[vestal echo]

yeah im fine with that

mb in a month or two or three i an do it first attempt most of the time xd

[lime raven]

Huh

Oh

[silver dirge]

That's all good, you'll get there eventually. Form some teams with your viable Damage Dealers and if you want, you can post them here for some feedback

[lime raven]

yeah teambuild a bit

Seems like you know a little

[vestal echo]

ye im still a rookie, mb played 3 mnths atm

slow n steady progress from help of y'all.

[lime raven]

i just made my clears channel i think

can someone help me make sure i did it right 😭

[silver dirge]

checking

[lime raven]

thanks

[trail smelt]

Worst part about 3k cs mm is I need more than 4 presaved parameters LMAO

So yeah I just change on the fly same

[grand trout]

Are you guys getting accustomed to the 15k CS yet

[trail smelt]

Still hate having to change parameters every fight lol

[keen jasper]

I'm already accustomed to 20k

[hushed sorrel]

Yayyy got my medals 😂

[lime raven]

Woah 🤣

[grand trout]

Congrats, now tackle master mode if you're confident enough

[cedar fable]

Will NC red’s frozen wing ice beam land a crit if I choose the crit protection for opponents?

[lime raven]

No

You dont crit at all with that

[cedar fable]

Ok thanks

[lime raven]

Have you chosen something like physical damage reduction yet?

[cedar fable]

Yes

Will crit bypass those then

[lime raven]

Not those

Crits only bypass the 50 point one

[silver dirge]

Physical Damage Reduction (50 Pts), that's a Reflect shield, it'll bypass that

It will not bypass Physical Damage Reduction (100 Pts)

Well in NC Red's case it doesn't matter for him cos he's special

[old orchid]

Physical/Special/Standard Damage Reduction params are battle rules, nothing can bypass those

[lime raven]

Wait what would they even need nc red for

Theres no specifically weak to ice stages

Definitely use hilda

^

[manic mica]

With who?

[old orchid]

Gloria Cinderace

[lime raven]

Morty too

Ss morty

[old orchid]

the tank is SS Morty, yeah

[manic mica]

How should I play it out? Focus entirely on center?

[lime raven]

they’ll all go down easily

[old orchid]

yes, focus on mid. Hilda's aoe sync is used to take down sides

[lime raven]

its as easy as that

[old orchid]

ideally after SS Morty's sync, Gloria uses her max move

to lower Fire type rebuff on mid

[lime raven]

if anything only morty will die

i think

[manic mica]

My Gloria is 1/5 btw

[lime raven]

Thats still good

[manic mica]

Okay thanks ya both

I’ll try test that team

[lime raven]

go try it

[manic mica]

Bet

[lime raven]

we shouldnt disappear or anything while ur gone 💀

[cedar fable]

I only have that damage dealer besides nc leaf

[lime raven]

For what stage

[cedar fable]

Every stage

[silver dirge]

Wdym that's your only damage dealer? Have you collected the Legendary Adventure units?

[cedar fable]

No bc I’m lazy

[lime raven]

Okay definitely dont use nc leaf until you get to blue then

[cedar fable]

And I don’t have enough to upgrade them

[silver dirge]

Well you can't tackle CS with just NC Red

[lime raven]

RED I MEANT RED

[main crow]

Is this hard mode?

[lime raven]

why is my brain not working

NO LEAF

OMG

[silver dirge]

?

[lime raven]

i got them confused

I was thinking of ss red

When i said that

sorry

Oh wait yeah actually

Have you gotten the ss unit from victory road

[cedar fable]

I just use other pair that deals absolutely pathetic damage compared to red

[lime raven]

what was your goal again

[silver dirge]

Well yea, he's one of the strongest damage dealers in the game. But for CS you need 5 teams, so he's not going to cut it. I would highly recommend going through the Legendary Adventures and collecting those units/their upgrades

[lime raven]

And victory road

[silver dirge]

Also don't ignore gen pool, story & 3/4 star units - they all range from useful to amazing

[main crow]

Most of the legendary are worth the investment

And covers their respective type well enough even at 3k MM

[silver dirge]

Good teambuilding guarantees you a clear with just about anyone in the game

[lime raven]

Who am i kidding no one in their right mind skipped victory road

[cedar fable]

Can u even skip it

[lime raven]

I think so

Thats not the point

[old orchid]

we dont really recommend skipping Victory Road, it's a mechanic tutorial and you should read the guide carefully

[lime raven]

and if you dont have anyone yet from there get red

[cedar fable]

Ise this guy for the fighting weak and choose special move decrease?

That spent all my exp so plz say yes

[main crow]

Wait you have master mode?

[cedar fable]

Yes

Just unlocked

[main crow]

Ah

[lime raven]

Sorry

you definitely want to go get some more powerful pairs before attempting master mode

[cedar fable]

Ok

[main crow]

Wally is a mixed dps, if you're fine with the debuff you can close combat dps

You can start small with master mode

450pts per round

[lime raven]

So 1.8k

[cedar fable]

Do I need to beat all 5 to get my points?

[silver dirge]

Yes

[main crow]

Ah wait it's 850

For the essential rewards

[silver dirge]

Yeap, 850 per stage for a 4.2k total

[lime raven]

That might still be a challenge

[main crow]

shows I never learned to start small with CS

[lime raven]

I mean i get max points every time now and i used to be nooby

[silver dirge]

We were all noobs at some point

[lime raven]

lol

i shouldnt be though

Its my fault for having been so off and on since release

[main crow]

I immediately went for 9k when I started off CSMM, granted I don't think I was as active in the server back then

So I was winging it pretty much

[lime raven]

I just barely started being active like 2-3 months ago after having already been in the server for 2 years

[silver dirge]

Lol the first time I tackled CS I went straight for max points too ||don't let the other helpers see this||

[lime raven]

time flies fast

[cedar fable]

I missed the ko by some hp that I can’t even see

[lime raven]

Well thats just bad rng

try again

Dont trip it happens quite a bit

This might seem like a no brainer but make sure you’re using all your buffs

[main crow]

What's the point you're going for? And are you using the pinned 850 pre set?

[cedar fable]

I’m trying to go for a 4200 total points

[lime raven]

Oh uh

yeah

Idk about that one

[old orchid]

we have 850 pts sets in the pins

[cedar fable]

I missed the ko on that set

[main crow]

Try again

Damage numbers are not fixed

[cedar fable]

I should probably put tech sync pair take damaged too

[lime raven]

it can be a tad bit lower or higher each time

[main crow]

With the same amount buffs you just happened to roll a low number

[silver dirge]

Are you familiar with teambuilding & triple queuing?

[lime raven]

Lol be glad he didnt say quad queuing just yet

[silver dirge]

Those are pretty crucial as you go into content like CS. If not, would strongly recommend having a read of #1010307000346878062

[cedar fable]

Not at all

[silver dirge]

Ah okay that might be the issue

[lime raven]

Yeah you should read that

kind of better than explaining the basics

[silver dirge]

Have a read of #1010307000346878062, make a quick team for the first stage, then post it here and we'll give you some feedback

[cedar fable]

I always fail to immediately click a move

[main crow]

Adjust the game speed

[silver dirge]

Yea if you can't queue on all 3 at the start, drop to normal speed

[lime raven]

All you have to do is just make sure you dont miss a move

[main crow]

Dw even some of us veteran players need to do that still

Also after you're done reading the faq you should show us your roster

[lime raven]

i forgot if nc red can make the sync countdown go down more

idk but

actually i dont think that matters at all

Forget that

[bronze onyx]

His TM has -1 sync countdown

[unborn raft]

anyone have the screenshot of the pinned presets? I can't seem to open the link for some reason

[grand trout]

There are no presets for 3k yet if that's what you're asking

[unborn raft]

no I mean, I can't open the 2.5k preset links in the pin xD

[grand trout]

Ah sure

What do you need exactly

@unborn raft does this work

[unborn raft]

yes thank you!

[nova imp]

Hey could someone tell me if my roster is enough for champion stadium master mode 12.5K?

I’ll send a screenshot

[manic kiln]

team building is more important than roster unless you're super new and don't have many units
but a 2-3 month old account can do 12.5k just fine

[nova imp]

The rest are general pool units

[nova imp]

I’m like 2 months old

Never managed to do 12.5K

Is there maybe a YouTube video with f2p units that could be used?

[manic kiln]

like i said team building is super important, also prioritize EXing at least 5 most use supports first

[nova imp]

When I click “check successful teams” most of them are difficult to obtain units

[silver dirge]

Those are just the top percentage of people

Have a look at #1011675077764456519

[manic kiln]

that feature is not that helpful anyway

[nova imp]

Yeah I was in need of champion spirit

[manic kiln]

better ask here

[nova imp]

I have enough 5* for 1 ex but no champion spirit, exed ss morty today

[nova imp]

Thanks, usually they post the videos a day after right?

[manic kiln]

i know but avoid exing striker and tech this early esp if they're 1/5, serena is fine, but you don't really need ex vilda and akari unless you really like them, getting supports first will help you in all game modes and gain resources consistently

[nova imp]

yeah I only exed bc I really liked them

I’ll probably ex ss blue and then there will be a sycamore event so that’ll be 3 total

For the remaining two I’ll go with proton and whatever free unit is the best

[manic kiln]

yeah ssblue and proton are great supports

[grand trout]

Do you have sonia yet

[manic kiln]

for this week Vilda and silver is more than enough for the champion stage so you can save ssmorty for another stage

[nova imp]

Not yet

[nova imp]

Really? Even with 2.5K?

[manic kiln]

yes

[nova imp]

Alright

Also what was the name of the website

Where you can put your units

And see the sync grids and stuff

[manic kiln]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[nova imp]

I’ll try some stuff there

Thanks

[manic kiln]

oh sync grid is different

this is for the roster

[nova imp]

Oh

Works

[nova imp]

That’s the one I was looking for

[unborn raft]

so which stages can be reliably be poison stalled?

[nova imp]

Again, having a good roster makes a huge difference but team building is what I mainly need

[nova imp]

First thing we should do is probably copy this right

[grand trout]

Who's vilda

Variety hilda

?

[nova imp]

victini hilda

[grand trout]

Nah, learning how to queue is first

[manic kiln]

yeah limited units help clear faster/tank better, using gen pool units requires more strategies but enough for clear, you'll most likely using mix team anyway

[grand trout]

And team building

I don't suggest blindly copying the params; one must understand why those params are feasible as well

[old orchid]

Every stage can be poisoned. You can ask for tips in #1097597679015567420

[grand trout]

Wait...even sync cures??

[silver dirge]

Yup

[grand trout]

I could've cleared lorelei months ago???

[nova imp]

well that’s a given after some time playing

[silver dirge]

If you look in Azriel's thread they poison stalled that last Blue stage with sync cure

[grand trout]

~~well I didn't know that time ss leaf can no longer after mega ~~

[old orchid]

For Sync Cure stages normal poison is better

[grand trout]

You might think that's the case, but have you heard of quadqueue?

[nova imp]

Yeah

I know what it is

[manic kiln]

quadqueue is overrated jk but after playing and messing around with parameters, trying to clear presync people will figure it out

[nova imp]

I came back 2 months ago

[manic kiln]

but i know some players still queue 11-12 moves then using sync move

[grand trout]

Ah nice

[grand trout]

As someone who's like that, gotta admit the urge to click a free move is strong

[manic kiln]

on purpose sure but they don't know how to queue properly

[nova imp]

Anyways

[grand trout]

Used to be*

[nova imp]

I should probably wait till tomorrow for the completion vídeo in the f2p csmm clear channel right

[manic kiln]

the thing about f2p clears is they still require some invesments, if most of your f2p units still don't have grids and at 3/5 it's hard to replicate

[nova imp]

Hm

Well shall we get started then?

What should I do in round 1?

I have an idea kinda

That I should get lance and use sycamore

[grand trout]

Well, you can face off bruno

[silver dirge]

Also when it comes out is completely up to Aurochs, but the clears in there should tell you that it's still doable with a F2P roster. Like Lost said, it'll require good gameplay knowledge & investment

[nova imp]

I have zygarde that uses physical moves and round 1 lowers that so

[grand trout]

He is a physical stage so the reflect you have might help you

[nova imp]

Alright

[grand trout]

Not if you max crit which byasses that defense

[old orchid]

First you should plan 5 dmg dealers, one for each stage, then build a team around each of them

[nova imp]

She has thousand waves and that’s ground against it

[manic kiln]

yeah build your teams first, choose the round later

[silver dirge]

The R1 parameter is bypassed by crits by the way, don't worry about that

[nova imp]

Is it a problem that I have no good fairy or fighting striker?

[grand trout]

Yeah you can use zerena for bruno

[nova imp]

alr

[old orchid]

Offtyping is always an option

[manic kiln]

zygarde for bruno, mewtwo for agatha

[grand trout]

Nope, offtyping is a viable strat

[manic kiln]

probably have to offtype the other 2

your bea is 2/5 so she can't nuke until 3/5

BP valerie and lodge lillie are 2 decent fairy if you can get them later

[grand trout]

I wonder if syca can provide fairy dps

[manic kiln]

he can but need someone else to tank then

[nova imp]

These are my ideas:
-Lance: Sycamore, Akari and something else
-Bruno: Zerena, SS Blue and something else
-Agatha: Giovanni, Allister and something else
-Lorelei: Rosa, SS Red and SS Morty
-Blue: death with ss Hilda, silver and Proton

I think it’s doable?

[grand trout]

Lance has strong attacks

[silver dirge]

Sycamore & Akari don't go well on the same team

[nova imp]

Yeah double edge hurts

[manic kiln]

yeah need some def buff for lance

[grand trout]

You might want a good meatshield for that

[nova imp]

hm

[nova imp]

Should I put that vs lorelei then?

[silver dirge]

Lorelei team is fine

[grand trout]

A good def support is skyla

[nova imp]

Yeah yeah I could use that

[silver dirge]

Akari, Skyla is better than Akari Sycamore yea

Is your Skyla EX?

[nova imp]

unfortunately not

[silver dirge]

that's fine Akari sync should be okay

[nova imp]

My roster

so Akari sycamore and skyla for lance got it

[silver dirge]

Also just double checking, are you trying to tackle MM for the first time?

I'd remove Sycamore from that team altogether

If he's not syncing he's not doing anything apart from eating gauge

[nova imp]

It’s my 3rdish time but I didn’t do 12.5K

The other times

[grand trout]

You can use masked royale for bruno

[nova imp]

got it

[grand trout]

He can debuff atk/def and help with speed

[silver dirge]

How many points have you done the previous times?

[nova imp]

About 7.5K

But I wanna tackle the champion spirit

[silver dirge]

Good idea here, but Bruno has imprevious

[nova imp]

Since I’m at 0 right now

[grand trout]

No that's last week

[silver dirge]

oh shit sorry

We've reset

My bad

MR's great there then

[nova imp]

Alright so how about skyla Akari and Rosa?

Rosa is exed

[silver dirge]

meh that's not doing much still, Rosa is a special support

Bring a utility pair, someone with defense debuffs to help Akari's damage would be great

Nanu, Kukui, Colress

[nova imp]

Alright

Kukui should do

He has no grid though

[left storm]

Cute turn 2-4 denials on 3.5k

I don't know why I never considered healthy superhit with Leon til last month tbh, it makes turn 2 denial so much more consistent

[grand trout]

Doesn't matter

He's just there to spam leer

[silver dirge]

Doesn't need grid

[left storm]

Kukuis grid only helps flinching

[nova imp]

Skyla needs a grid though

There were some suggestions in the bot

That could help

[silver dirge]

Skyla can just have the potion kit + staggering on Gust

TM MPR is important

that's about it

[nova imp]

Alrighty

Something like this?

[grand trout]

How's your comp rn

[nova imp]

my team?

[grand trout]

0 nodes left?

[grand trout]

Yeah for all

[silver dirge]

That grid looks good

[nova imp]

Here ya go

[nova imp]

Copied it

[grand trout]

Um i mean for everyone

Lol

[nova imp]

Hurt a little but it’s one time

[nova imp]

Oh yeah here

[silver dirge]

Might be worthwhile to plan all your teams first just in case you need to move something around, but if you wanna give it a shot that's fine

Grids for Kukui/Akari shouldn't matter they are 1/5 after all

[main crow]

Been a while since I last used Karen

Also I need a new grass team 😔

[silver dirge]

That's my grass team too I recently replaced SS Morty with NC Leaf for triple DD

Erika gets a boosted Kanto Pride so it's a pretty big boost

[nova imp]

Damn you’re stacked

[main crow]

Erika is so stupid and she doesn't even have EX

[silver dirge]

SS Erika my beloved

[nova imp]

I think this is good enough?

[old orchid]

SS Morty is repeated

[nova imp]

Btw I meant to put silver instead of morty in champion

[main crow]

For which team exactly?

Red or Hilda?

[grand trout]

You might want a sp atk buffer for m2

[nova imp]

Hilda

[nova imp]

Alright

[grand trout]

Not sure about ss morty and red, as they compete for sync

[nova imp]

True

[grand trout]

But if you're using ss morty just for sun ig it's fine

[silver dirge]

Nah it's fine, SS Morty doesn't need to sync

[nova imp]

He’s exed but ig that’s fine

[grand trout]

I'd rather you remove rosa though

She'll be dead weight

[main crow]

someone with speed buff would be nice

You can't exactly rely on MGA forever while with zero speed buff

[silver dirge]

Is this the SS Morty team? He buffs speed

[nova imp]

Got it

[silver dirge]

Red also maxes out his own speed

[formal vigil]

Isn't that grid only

[nova imp]

I think I have fixed it

[cinder summit]

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Believe!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Allied side
Effect Tag: -
Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play. Raises the Defense, Sp. Def, and Speed of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank. In addition, raises the critical-hit rate of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the weather is sunny.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Sygna Suit Morty & Ho-Oh

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[nova imp]

Lyra can take advantage of sun from morty

[grand trout]

How about Lucian?

Sp def debuffs are always nice

[main crow]

Oh lmao

I legit forgot I thought he's both atk, I remember it's only post mega now

My bad

[grand trout]

Hmm nah

[nova imp]

So I remove Lyra?

Since morty alr has speed?

[grand trout]

Lyra doesn't have defensive buffs

[nova imp]

True

[main crow]

Morty already provides that

[nova imp]

Thought she’d work well with sun but guess not

[silver dirge]

She does usually 100%

[formal vigil]

Get rid of proton on ss hilda team for physical attack buffer (if your using it)

[grand trout]

She does, but she's too frail

[silver dirge]

Is SS Red 2/5+ ?

[nova imp]

1/5

[silver dirge]

Yea so Lyra isn't helping with Haymaker either, slot someone else in

[grand trout]

Lucian!

Lucian!

[silver dirge]

Lucian was a good suggestion

[main crow]

Spdef debuff can help a lot

[nova imp]

Hop?

[formal vigil]

There's gordie too for fire rebuff

[nova imp]

Alright I’ll do that

[nova imp]

Don’t have

Alright, this is the updated version

Put hop for attack buff

[silver dirge]

Gauges aren't going to work on CS 4 team

Melony is really slow and your DDs demand 3 gauge moves

[main crow]

Sycamore is always there

[old orchid]

I would swap SS Blue with Melony

And yeah use Sycamore

[main crow]

The other two I believe can provide +3 crit themselves

[nova imp]

So their placements you mean?

mb for ping

[old orchid]

Yeah

SS Blue wants to sync first too

[nova imp]

Thing is about swapping them is that ss blue gives defense against lance

And melony doesn’t

[old orchid]

But using Sycamore instead of Melony is way better idea

[nova imp]

Alright

That works

[grand trout]

this may sound crazy but

oh n vm

[nova imp]

Boom

Now I think I’m ready

All I need is to decide on what parameters to apply

And we should be good to go

I’ll probably put some levels on Lucian too

[nova imp]

I think what bothers me the most is team 2 with everyone fighting for sync but outside of that it’s fine

[grand trout]

sync with zerena first

[brave halo]

OK is there anything else that ain't sswally and sabrina that I can use with lodge lillie to make work cause I swear they are just being pathetic

Getting near one shot all the time

[rain turret]

the 4th one is for the agatha?

[brave halo]

So is lodge lillie only good as a sync Nuke when ex or something cause she is doing practically nothing

OK sorry, but lodge lillie is not good, I'm just forced back into NY lisia and I don't like it

[manic kiln]

half sync round

[keen jasper]

She's good for attack debuffing

[nocturne pawn]

strong utility pair. has trap and attack debuffs and synchro healing with a good nuke

[manic kiln]

double edge is dangerous but sycamore can still do some damage with moonblast before going down, or if you're lucky and they miss then can finish with almost full hp

don't have to use azumarill, a def buffer and crit buff should be great
this is my f2p mono team so i don't have many choices

[brave halo]

I've been trying and trying and trying but they take next to nothing

To make it worse, I've been using TRed and still nothing

[steel kelp]

How

[mellow linden]

Sounds like a parameter issue

[brave halo]

Idk the game hates my guts

[manic kiln]

it's def parameter issue

[steel kelp]

It’s always a param issue

[mellow linden]

More than likely you turned on the wrong Damage Reduction 8 parameter(s) by accident, super common mistake that pretty much everyone makes now and then

Heck, I did it just last week

[brave halo]

I don't care for the reduction with red, all I care for is Para and Defense dropping

[mellow linden]

You’re not understanding what I mean

Physical Damage Reduction 8 and Standard Damage Reduction 8 are the problems for SST Red

[steel kelp]

Imagine reading

[mellow linden]

Each of those parameters reduces physical damage and non-supereffective damage respectively by 80%

So if you have both then SST Red will do next to nothing

[brave halo]

Yeah I get that, I just said I didn't care for what he does

[steel kelp]

So why is he there

?

[brave halo]

Para and Defense dropping

[mellow linden]

And why do you need those?

[brave halo]

So lillie can try to kill with sync

[steel kelp]

What

[brave halo]

But given she's still doing nothing, was a waste of time

[mellow linden]

Pretty sure Paralysis has no impact on Lodge Lillie’s Sync

[steel kelp]

It doesn’t

[mellow linden]

Only Sp. Def. debuffs would

[steel kelp]

Yea sync specia

[mellow linden]

So Lucian is just an automatically better pick in this scenario

[manic kiln]

lillie needs trap and atk down for her multiplier

[steel kelp]

It’s growlin time

[manic kiln]

sp def down is just bonus, and she doesn't need it to clear

[mellow linden]

What’s your Lodge Lillie grid? Might be able to further boost her damage output with a quick re-grid

[brave halo]

She's just a sync Nuke build from the one spreadsheet

And nope, not even lucian worked, the best she did was 9k

Yeah im just forced into NY lisia again even when I don't want to, but this has gone long enough

[mellow linden]

What are her offensive stats at by the time she Syncs and are you using her Trainer Move as her last action before she Syncs?

[silver dirge]

Excuse an incoming one-time text wall from me

[mellow linden]

Also, is the center opponent Trapped and at -6 Attack?

[brave halo]

Yep on both

[manic kiln]

choosing hp + str + def is not a great idea so of course your dmg output is not great, just pick mostly offensive parameters

[brave halo]

Problem there

They get one shot instantly

[manic kiln]

not if you bring some sort of defense buffers, double edge will 1 shot regardless but other moves don't

[mellow linden]

Eh, can always come back later to troubleshoot, I guess. No shame in running NY Lisia

If I hadn’t wanted to test out Penny + Diantha and see how it goes I’d have run NY Lisia myself

[silver dirge]

15K CSMM Parameters

Beyond 2.5K points per stage, parameters start to become heavily team dependent; it's difficult to create generalised presets that will work for any team. Instead, we recommend taking your 2.5K CSMM Parameters and adjusting them for 3K pts with some Strength. See below for some tips on how to go about this

Adjust the parameters for your team!

• See if you can pick up Strike/Tech Pairs x3 Damage
• If you aren't making use of status conditions, interference, stat reductions or field effects, then the relevant parameters should be selected so you aren't foregoing free points
• Ensure you have the right type of damage reduction selected from Special/Physical Damage Reduction

Pre-Sync Tips:

• Do NOT take Defense parameters
• For defensively strong & healing tanks, or team-wide defense buffs, Half Ally HP at Start is often a free 200 points
• For strong damage dealers who can comfortably pre-sync, consider adding Strength OR Max HP parameters, make sure not to stack too much of both!

• You can try Max Sync Countdown parameters, & utilise KOs or flinch/freeze/sleep for turn denials if necessary. This is a great stat for strong nukes or first-sync clears!
• Triple damage dealer/No support comps with strong damage output & a sufficiently bulky tank can make use of the Supports x3 Damage parameter

Other Tips:

• For stall strategies, it's mostly a matter of additional Strength while adjusting the other parameters to your team
• We don't recommend post-sync at 3K points as increasing bulk can be punishing - especially on the harder regions
• This is for players who are confident & experienced with 2.5K CSMM. If you are new and/or still getting used to CS, start at a lower point total and work your way up slowly
• A 4.2K point total covers all crucial rewards, the rewards beyond that are mostly just &

@tribal agate

[silver dirge]

[nova imp]

I’m back

[old orchid]

thats a lot of pins

[old orchid]

hi back, do you need any help?

[nova imp]

So I wanted to try seeing what parameters I could use?

[nova imp]

funny

[old orchid]

we have pinned parameter presets here

ah you mean the round parameters?

[nova imp]

Do they blindly work?

No no

[silver dirge]

Presets never work blindly

[nova imp]

Like the options really

[nova imp]

Thought so…

I don’t know what I can do sometimes to get more points

[keen jasper]

Well, for once I actually 4k-ed a ghost-weak stage

[brave halo]

OK yeah I immediately slaughtered with NY lisia, but I'm still pretty PO'd

[mellow linden]

We do have some example parameters in the pins, so you can take a look at those and try to gather an understanding of them and how they can be adjusted to fit your team(s) and/or playstyle

[mellow linden]

Eh, if it works it works, only thing to worry about is think on what adjustments could be made next time to get a more desired result

15k CS is still being “mapped out”, so to speak

So even if you don’t find the way to make a specific team work, you might lay the groundwork for someone else to do so, and you can then learn from each other

[nocturne pawn]

whats weird is that they gave us no new parameters unlike with 2.5k

[silver dirge]

iirc the 7.5k->10k update was the same?

I wouldn't be surprised if they add some params down the line

[mellow linden]

Probably if they decide to up it to 17.5k in the future

[old orchid]

add CS level 2 first

[manic kiln]

ready for a mono team param, 300 points

CS lv2 will just be 3v6

[silver dirge]

Someone mentioned Sync Damage Reduction or Moves Damage Reduction earlier

that would be kinda cool

[mellow linden]

I kinda doubt they’ll do that much to incentivize monotype teams in CS now that we have HSEs

[main crow]

Return of Full force battle

Nature is healing

[steel kelp]

Full force battle is dead

[old orchid]

Battle Villa is not dead, so FFB is not dead too

[brave halo]

And now a new issue and I'm starting to get really ticked at 3k

Cause now fantina can't kill in time before she goes down

[swift swan]

what's the team?

[old orchid]

seems like param issues

Fantina with proper grid destroys ontype without much trouble

[brave halo]

That's the team

[old orchid]

the team is totally fine, how about params?

[swift swan]

also is fantina gridded for nuke?

[left storm]

I genuinely think it's better to use DPS Fantina with victor

[swift swan]

that's a lot of strength

[brave halo]

That's what I was doing since I'm forced into using sync first with victor

[swift swan]

you let agatha sync, yes? using power on hit for longer battles is dangerous

[old orchid]

Field EX sync is slightly better than Support EX sync anyway

[swift swan]

first sync with victor, second sync with fantina under zone

[left storm]

Are you doing turn denial on left side?

[swift swan]

there's max sync countdown there too

[left storm]

With that team you don't even need to sync twice tbfh

[rain turret]

what's a good poison stall strat?

[swift swan]

check the pins for poison stall params. find a unit that can inflict badly poison, get a healer that can buff defenses, and a unit that can debuff offenses

[manic kiln]

judging from your previous clear vids, post sync and not queuing properly will fail the run, esp with 3k

[swift swan]

then watch the enemies die slowly as you buff yourself and debuff their attacks to oblivion

[silver dirge]

Wow that's quite the poison stall summary there

[swift swan]

as someone who likes to solo stages with ss leaf poison stall, i like saying it

[brave halo]

OK I got extremely lucky to kill before she sync

[left storm]

This is how I rotate with Fantina + Victor

As you see you don't even need second sync

[rain turret]

Im thinking oleana,the entei girl from the tickets,but who should be the 3rd member?

[old orchid]

Oleana leans towards Poison type enabler. She is a dead weight after she finishes debuffing

You can take some idea from #1097597679015567420

[swift swan]

#1097597679015567420 team examples

same brain

[left storm]

Well her debuffs are very silly

So it's not a big deal

[old orchid]

helpers share the same hivemind

[left storm]

Any good tank + Oleana + any potion bot ezpz

[fickle hinge]

Best parameters for 3k points? I just want an all-round parameters

[old orchid]

3k is very team reliant, so there is no all round parameters

Have a look at the pins

[brave halo]

I've already won but now I'm dealing lastly with lorelei and her evasion bs

[fickle hinge]

I asked cuz idk how to build parameters around a team

[silver dirge]

Is this your first time tackling master mode?

[old orchid]

If yes, you dont have to get to 15k immediatly

Get used to master mode first

[fickle hinge]

No, but I normally had a friend build my paras for me but he quit playing

[silver dirge]

Don't jump straight into high-point clears then

[left storm]

You got exed Bea? Or any limited fighting?

[silver dirge]

Start low, at around 850 pts and learn the ins & outs of the params

It's important to know what the parameters do and why they're important

We've got presets in the pins, but even then you shouldn't copy them blindly - make sure you're adjusting them to your team

[brave halo]

My strive is to win with base korrina

I have her, CHop, and hilbert

[left storm]

Korrinna...

Good luck with that

If you can run chop it's free real estate

[steel kelp]

As long as korrina sits there as a meat shield you’ll be fine

[sinful garden]

the problem about 3k is that they've increased the point limit without adding new parameters, so you'll have to slot in those extra 500 points per stage depending on what your team can handle

[left storm]

Chop can clear Lorelei alone as long as he gets enough meat shields anyway

[sinful garden]

arch's guide in pins helps you build parameters around this

[sinful garden]

you're going to have to focus on chop rather than korrina for that to work

if hilbert dies too quickly (which may very well happen) just slot in a bigger meatshield, chop can setup himself

[left storm]

Yep

Korrinna just does no damage

And especially

Dies to a breeze

[silver dirge]

Korrina slander in chat

[swift swan]

deserves it

she's bad

[steel kelp]

Deserved

[swift swan]

i'm sorry korrina fans

[left storm]

I'd rather use Bruno than korrinna

[silver dirge]

[steel kelp]

She’s like Valerie

[sinful garden]

(3 star story pair curse)

[left storm]

Valerie got redeemed with her BP

[silver dirge]

I will remember this

[steel kelp]

Dw

Korrina will stay in no alt jail

[left storm]

Bruno works much better than her anyway

[silver dirge]

Now we're just erasing SS Korrina from existence

[left storm]

Her alt isn't fighting

But she got a great one

[steel kelp]

Oh yea she exists

[silver dirge]

[sinful garden]

marshadow erasure

[left storm]

Smh

[brave halo]

Why, why must lorelei have both evasion and cri defense

Like seriously

That stupid evasion, it is straight up unfair

[old orchid]

you know you can use an accuracy buffer right

or someone with Sure Hit effect like Thorton

[brave halo]

I actually had bp clemont on the team before being suggested of hilbert and CHop

[old orchid]

Hop is pretty self sufficient, he doesnt need Hilbert

[brave halo]

It was due to trying to lower the amount of moves needed for reaching max crit

[old orchid]

so have you ever thought about using both supports?

[brave halo]

But then I lose CHop

[old orchid]

no, use CHop with both supports

if you dont want to deal with evasion

[silver dirge]

The entire premise is to have Korrina there

[old orchid]

so either kick Korrina out, or use an accuracy support

or deal with evasion

[brave halo]

Trust me I get it, I can easily use bea, CHop, or even sc diantha, but thats too basic and I need to prove myself

[old orchid]

if you dont want to deal with rng, use BP Clemont for supporting. CHop has to spend turns buffing for Korrina yes

[manic kiln]

Not even max atk korrina

[toxic cobalt]

Who are the special strikers this week? Lorelei and Agatha?

[keen jasper]

yes

[silver dirge]

Ya

[brave halo]

who sync'd first?

[manic kiln]

Korrina

But support sync is also fine if exed

[left storm]

You can also first sync oneshot lapras with chop

As an option

[manic kiln]

korrina dps

but lbr she's not gonna solo dps without help

[brave halo]

im really wishing she didnt have that crit defense

[toxic cobalt]

Really? This is frustrating

[manic kiln]

Chop still curry with zone and def down so

[brave halo]

looks like im forced to be pathetic and forced into bea

i swear dena did not think 3k through and getting ridiculous

[manic kiln]

just because you couldn't clear doesn't mean it's their fault

[silver dirge]

No one is forcing you to do all 3k points

[manic kiln]

and with f2p units

[silver dirge]

Even though Lost did clear it with the same team ^

[manic kiln]

also as I said earlier you need to work on your queuing

[sinful garden]

the problem isnt points, the problem is that they are limiting themselves with bad units

[silver dirge]

[toxic cobalt]

Lost doing f2p clears?

[sinful garden]

(atleast i hope the problem isnt also points)

[manic kiln]

no just trying that team for them

korrina and chop, bp clemont

[toxic cobalt]

Feel CHop wins almost on his own there

[sinful garden]

chop absolutely murders the stage

just needs someone to take hits for him

[silver dirge]

[brave halo]

i swear that crit defense makes me want to scream

[manic kiln]

you just need to kill before that

[brave halo]

except she does it pretty much instantly

meaning i have to deal wth it

[silver dirge]

She only sets Crit Shield right before she syncs

[sinful garden]

why are you using korrina again

[brave halo]

to prove myself

[silver dirge]

[manic kiln]

[silver dirge]

[sinful garden]

uhhhh alright then

just slap a meatshield (preferably with accuracy buffs since you are struggling with rng) in there

[silver dirge]

Does she go +2 Eva or +1?

[nocturne pawn]

she has +2 iirc

and she gets spatk if she dodges

which is very :)

[silver dirge]

Ah so 75% effective accuracy on a 100% base then

[keen jasper]

Ok, holy fuck Lorelei is worse than Iris

[nocturne pawn]

iris is a joke fight honestly

[old orchid]

she can get to +6 if you hit her too much

[silver dirge]

Oh

[nocturne pawn]

lowest base hp of any cs and the attack debuff barely matters

[silver dirge]

I have not let her survive that long

[nocturne pawn]

oh she has slippery slope?

[steel kelp]

Yes

[keen jasper]

I wish Lorelei was a joke too, but my 4k clears is oof

And to add more salt to the wound she has Crit Shield before syncing

[old orchid]

Look Alive 9 to be exact

[sinful garden]

look alive 9 iirc

[nocturne pawn]

ew

so just focus on big dph i guess

which korrina is

not known for

[sinful garden]

its quite the unfun fight but its kanto cs so she still dies quite easily

[sinful garden]

they really want to use korrina

[sinful garden]

but like you can still make it work

its just that chop will break his back by carrying

[steel kelp]

The hero no one deserves

[silver dirge]

is Bea not acceptable enough for worthiness?

Has to be Korrina?

[manic kiln]

It’s mostly parameter and queuing problem at this point

[silver dirge]

yup

[brave halo]

ok im mad i was forced into bea, but i made the crit defense work in my favor

[silver dirge]

[sinful garden]

atleast you beat the stage

(right?)

[brave halo]

forced her to activate crit shield super early by both sync countdowns, sync'd with lodge cynthia while spamming kicks with CHop, just enough time to have the defense vanish and sync with bea

[keen jasper]

Huh, so it seems that double DPS is the key for me in defeating 4k Lorelei

[steel kelp]

Huh

[silver dirge]

[brave halo]

oh and fighting zone right before the sync too

[silver dirge]

Lodge Cynthia? Who was buffing Bea's physical stats ?

[steel kelp]

Don’t tell me

[brave halo]

she buffed spdef

[steel kelp]

You spent time using bea tm

[sinful garden]

me letting bea self setup without outside help (i will start attacking at turn 8)

[silver dirge]

[brave halo]

couldnt really do much time to setup when under half mp but yes i used up each tm first just to get free sync count

i have it recorded, youll see it later, now its finally time for blue

[silver dirge]

That is literally 6 turns

[brave halo]

yeah exactly, it was to waste the crit defense time

[nova imp]

Alright

I managed to pull off 2600 points (I need 13K total for 50 champion spirit) in my first battle against Bruno

[silver dirge]

That's a great start

[nova imp]

Idk what I should put in options for lance though

[silver dirge]

What's the team?

[nova imp]

CS1

[silver dirge]

Should be standard off-type params from the pins, adjust them so you can reduce stats and set up zone

Otherwise should be good to go

[nova imp]

Alright

[wicked otter]

Is it just me or CS now become so much harder off type at 3k?

[old orchid]

it is

[nocturne pawn]

it is

for 3k you’re forced into taking extra bulk

[wicked otter]

Yea extra bulk and the hit hard

Seems a bit too hard if not on type and that also already use my strongest pair, not subpar

[sharp willow]

yeah, off-type's been a fair bit harder than on-type since the 2500 update

since you're not getting the free 300 points

[silver dirge]

And this is Kanto, wait til the Hoenn E4 come for vengeance

[brave halo]

finally ugh man 15k is such a pain

[nova imp]

What’s the difference between in sync and off sync? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009554906568462476/1173572851387879517/4bS4qLx_d.webp?ex=656471e3&is=6551fce3&hm=854b3bfb144b3180b2bcb0f964ab1a8f3758649e0c963ede25b9210be496befa&

I don’t get it: is it my team or his team?

[silver dirge]

Do you mean on-type and off-type?

[nova imp]

Yeah

[steel kelp]

No one is forcing you to do 15k

[nova imp]

Wait no

[silver dirge]

The parameters are based on your team

[nova imp]

No

I mean like pre sync and post sync

[nova imp]

I wanna get 13K for champion spirit

[silver dirge]

I think they're talking to someone else

[nova imp]

Oh mb

[silver dirge]

Pre-sync means you clear before your opponents' sync

[sharp willow]

pre-sync means before the enemies first sync, post-sync means after

[silver dirge]

Your strat there is to have strong damage dealers that will comfortably dish out damage

[nova imp]

That’s possible with Akari

She’s a single hitter

[silver dirge]

For post-sync, you want to be on a lil bit more defensive side so you're able to survive their sync

[nova imp]

Pretty strong

[silver dirge]

Yes pre-sync is definitely possible with Akari

[nova imp]

I don’t have ex role though

[manic kiln]

it's harder to post-sync with 3k tho, most of the time the dps will die to their sync, and support barely survive

you don't need ex role

[silver dirge]

This is Kanto so you can still get away with it, but good luck on the harder 3 lol

[nova imp]

alright

I’m about 12 coins for striker rolê cake

And I have 14 spare daily tickets

[manic mica]

@lime raven I beat Blue. I used SS Hilda to attack the middle. Then used Gloria and SS Hilda to kill one of the sides (so that earthquake doesn’t kill me). Then I nuked with SS Hilda and won. Gloria’s max move helped a lot too

[silver dirge]

You don't need Akari's EX Role by any means to clear the stage

Since you're off-type just try around 2.5K points

[nova imp]

2.6K would be ideal yeah

But if I can get 2.7K on blue (pretty doable) I do 2.5K here

[silver dirge]

Was that team on-type?

Keep in mind you had the free 300 from Standard Damage Reduction

For offtype you'd have to drop that and take strength, then add on more points to get to 2.7K. But hey, if you think you can handle it no harm in trying

[onyx ice]

Would be interesting to see 3k on the harder regions

[nova imp]

Yeah I have SS Hilda

[nocturne pawn]

dies

[onyx ice]

The powercreep of the new units probably will make it trivial (if you have them)

[steel kelp]

Flint 3k

Have fun dying

[silver dirge]

Steel weak Glacia 3k

With no special steels

[onyx ice]

Does flint have AOE? I don't remember

[steel kelp]

He hits hard

[nocturne pawn]

no

but he can one shot ss brendan on half hp

[steel kelp]

Like REALLY hard

[nocturne pawn]

and the guy has 340 spdef

[onyx ice]

I guess is lodge adaman time to shine

[silver dirge]

Flint has Heat Wave yes

[steel kelp]

Turn 1 fire blast baby

[swift swan]

this is genuinely terrifying

maybe it's time for me to practice using Raihan

ugh, 1/5 Raihan

[silver dirge]

Hey you just gotta hold his hand a lil bit that Steel Beam still hits hard

[steel kelp]

Good thing I don’t have raihan

[silver dirge]

SS Tate havers are ready for Glacia (thanks mix scout)

[nocturne pawn]

didnt know tate had a ss

[swift swan]

fine, it's time for the CBede fix

[nocturne pawn]

simply

be better

(me who has 5/5 raihan)

[silver dirge]

Same

[swift swan]

me with 1/5 level 1 raihan 🥱

picked him from that free N/Marnie/Raihan select

[onyx ice]

Raihan havers too I guess

[onyx ice]

I guess mine will be enough with the help of NC Bede and the steel egg cat

[swift swan]

oh yeaaah

striker perrserker

that's a thing!

[silver dirge]

You, the resident LG fanatic forgetting an eggmon?

How disappointing

[paper summit]

fake Gauntlet gremlin

[onyx ice]

I guess the tech one is The gauntlet choice

[swift swan]

striker eggmons don't exist to me tech/support or bust

[silver dirge]

[onyx ice]

I like striker Raichu

And ofc Hitmonlee is striker only

[paper summit]

tbf only 2 are actually good, granted I couldn't care less about Gauntlet so the rest are whatever to me other than collection items

[keen jasper]

Finally done 4k pts. Lorelei with 2 Focus Blast DPSers

Boy, my gauges were fucking hell

[rich needle]

Me too

[keen jasper]

Despite SS May not reaching full Cakewalk multiplier, she still dealt 301k damage on her sync with -4 speed

[nova imp]

Didn’t manage to pre sync after trying

My strat was setting dark zone, leer, take flight, ceaseless edge, repeat the others, and b move

[keen jasper]

When exactly are you using Akari's TM?

Also, what's your grid on Skyla?

[nova imp]

TM?

[nova imp]

Bot one with staggering

Maybe I should use gust after take flight?

[keen jasper]

Trainer Move or Mutual Understanding

[nova imp]

Alright

[nova imp]

I’m using it at the start btw

Is that a no go?

[keen jasper]

Seems like a waste

[nova imp]

why so

??

[keen jasper]

Because you're wasting the MUN stacks at the beginning where your damage is eh without sync buffs

[silver dirge]

Try go Ceaseless Edge turn 1

[nova imp]

Just did

It works a little bit better but the other mons still hit me

I wonder if critical strike would work

Because it gets more damage with crits

[keen jasper]

Critical Strike 2 is the general lucky skill of damage dealers

[nova imp]

Got it

Still am having a hard time

1 sync and I’m out

Could anyone assist me with that?

[silver dirge]

Can you send your params?

[nova imp]

Sure

Adapted the one from the pins

So is there maybe an issue with that?

I really can’t get him before sync

That double edge hits hard

It 1 shots skyla

Let me resend grid

It wasn’t showing up properly

[nova imp]

Maybe I need a lucky skill for skyla?

[nova imp]

I put vigilante

And I still fail

[brave halo]

OK so because the convo here about me losing my mind on lorelei and eventually using her crit defense to my advantage, I posted my whole vod on my runs thread #1127046441085452379

Figured I'd say it here cause the context was on here earlier, I think someone was surprised when I said earlier so might as well let us know

[manic kiln]

that was not using it to your advantage when you should've killed her sooner
in almost all of the fight you didn't even max your dps offensive stats/multipliers, don't take half MP if you can't even max those stats
queuing was also all over the place, why did you delay your sync which led to no quadqueue and ended up doing post-sync when you pre-sync is doable, half of those clears were clutch

please learn how to queue properly, this is why all those comp you're trying to prove yourself failed
queue 9 moves then sync, then queue another 3, the opponents can't queue another move when their move animation is still going on, no need to queue 12 moves then sync, you're wasting your sync cycle and let their sync almost wipe your team
you're lucky this is Kanto so certain units/comp can still carry

[paper summit]

there is no point in trying to prove/challenge yourself or whatever if you don't actually have the basics of the game dominated

[noble plaza]

Having trouble with Bruno with this team

[nocturne pawn]

that should be more than enough

have ingo tank instead of hilbert maybe

[paper summit]

that's how it is already

[nocturne pawn]

oh

i mean

then nothing’s really wrong

maybe try changing some parameters

[north crown]

Marley instead of Hilbert...? at this point idk what the problem is

[nocturne pawn]

no dont change hilbert

ingo’s offensive buffing isnt that fast

[north crown]

pray for lucky flinches ig...?

[nocturne pawn]

well the bot doesnt even work

🆒

[brave halo]

1. How could I have killed sooner if she had the crit defense up by then?
2. Where exactly did I delay a sync?

[peak stirrup]

Who should I pair with SSR Cynthia? My usual 2.5k of Victor and Fantina isn’t enough.
Ghost is extra tough since Cynthia’s sync is physical.

[noble plaza]

Yeah I think that might be the issue

[nova imp]

Could y’all assist me?

[rotund lagoon]

Who’s your Support?

[nova imp]

I’ve been struggling for some hours

[silver dirge]

Lost has pinpointed some pretty important problems in your gameplay, it's constructive criticism and will only help you progress if you choose to take it on. If you don't, you're going to be at a huge disadvantage, especially if you're trying to clear with underrated pairs.

If you don't click on the sync as soon as it becomes available, you are delaying sync. For example, if it becomes available on the pair on the right, and instead of clicking it straight away you queue a move with the left and/or middle pairs, you're delaying it. As for "killing them sooner", you need to teambuild & play in a way that you are setting up your damage dealers' offenses (6 Attack/SpAtk + 3 Crit) as quick as possible. If you're not doing this, and say for example spending 6 turns on just TMs, that's 6 turns wasted you could have been doing damage instead. Had you done the damage, it would have "cleared them sooner".

[manic kiln]

every single round, you need to queue 9 moves then sync but in most of them you queued 11-12 moves before sync

[rotund lagoon]

@nova imp Did you check the doc in the pins?

[nova imp]

Yeah

If you a scroll up

I sent all my stuff

[nova imp]

About here

[rotund lagoon]

Discord keeps scrolling me down due to all the messages.

Is this pre or post sync?

[nova imp]

Pre

I have Akari

Skyla

And kukui

[rotund lagoon]

Looking at the params, yours does not match the doc.

[nova imp]

I made some changes

To adapt

It’s against lance so it’s off type

[rotund lagoon]

Oh sh, I was not able to see its Fairy

[silver dirge]

Your params do look fine to me on the most part, how are you struggling with the stage? You can't finish off the middle fast enough, sides take you out, or something else?

[nova imp]

I can’t finish lance before he syncs

That makes me lose

[rotund lagoon]

Can you record your gameplay?

[nova imp]

Sure

I’ll try getting a good round

Not really best care scenario but it’s about this

Only mistake was delaying potion by 1 but that wouldn’t have changed much

[rotund lagoon]

Ok so first thing I’m seeing
You basically wasted an entire Dark Zone by doing TM then Akari sync

[silver dirge]

Yeap

[nova imp]

I need to sync early no?

[silver dirge]

You do, the point is not to use TM before you sync

Akari automatically sets Dark Zone right before she syncs because of the field EX effect

[nova imp]

Yeah

There are 3 dark zones no?

Like one in ally, one in middle and one in enemy

[nocturne pawn]

its a field effect

it’ll effect everyone on the field enemy and allied

damage field is specifically enemy side

[nova imp]

But I can’t use my buddy move if I use tm

I have to use ceaseless edge’s dark zone

Or am I getting confused?

[nocturne pawn]

her b move is contingent on using ceaseless edge

[silver dirge]

You're confusing Dark Zone and Dark Damage field

[rotund lagoon]

You are being confused

[nocturne pawn]

dark zone and dark damage field

are not the same thing

[silver dirge]

Dark Zone is the field effect, the icon is at the top left

[nova imp]

They’re different??

[paper summit]

yes

[rotund lagoon]

Dark Damage Field is the icon on the top right

[silver dirge]

Dark Damage Field is also a field effect, but it only applies to your opponent's side of play

[nova imp]

So let me get this straight

[paper summit]

dark damage field is akin to chip damage from sandstorm, but only on the enemy

[rotund lagoon]

Your team seems it needs a second Dark DPS, and possibly change in Support because of that.

[nova imp]

Dark damage field is like a move debuff right?

[paper summit]

her bmove requires that field effect to be active so you can use it

[cinder summit]

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_DARK:967452395858710598> Top Performer Ceaseless Edge

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: Sure Hit
Activation Condition: When Dark Damage Field applies to the opponents' field of play.
Deactivation Condition: When the opponents' field of play is no longer Dark Damage Field.
Never misses. Except in certain circumstances, successful hits with this attack become critical hits. This move's power increases when successfully used in succession. (This move powers up by 20% every time it is used.) (The maximum power-up is 60%.) If a different move is used by the user's Pokémon, this move's power returns to normal.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Akari & Samurott

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[rotund lagoon]

[nocturne pawn]

you need to use regular ceaseless edge first

[nocturne pawn]

so you can use this one

[paper summit]

Dark Zone is completely unrelated to using the bmove other than boosting its damage output

[silver dirge]

The one on the left is Dark Zone, the one on the right is Dark Damage Field

[nova imp]

Damn

Ok

I think I get it now

thx

[rotund lagoon]

But I recommend a second Dark DPS for your team. Akari is not doing enough by herself.

[nova imp]

So I have to save tm for after sync right?

[nocturne pawn]

id use tm for her second turn

[nova imp]

I don’t have archer

[nocturne pawn]

since her sync if ex’d will auto set a dark zone

[nova imp]

That would be perfect

[nocturne pawn]

archer is not a dps

[silver dirge]

Archer is not a great dark DPS anyway

[nocturne pawn]

he competes

with akari for sync

and at 1/5 neither sync is that good anyway

[rotund lagoon]

Can we see your Dark roster?

[silver dirge]

Do you happen to have an EX support you can slot here?

[rotund lagoon]

An EX Support would be better

[nova imp]

Not really, only other ex support is ss morty and it’s already on the team I made this morning for the other

Let me send u guys my teams and my roster

[nova imp]

.

[nova imp]

roster

I wanted champion spirit exactly because of that

[peak stirrup]

I was trying to use Fantina and Victor for max Sp Def drops to activate brainteaser on Cynthia’s sync and Victor also maxes Cynthia’s Sp Atk

[nova imp]

For another ex support

[rotund lagoon]

I spy a Masked Royal. Use him instead of Kukui.

[silver dirge]

Your team is Fantina, Victor and SSR Cynthia?

[nova imp]

True that’s doable

[peak stirrup]

Yes but it’s not working

[rotund lagoon]

But slot in an Atk/Crit Support for MR instead of Skyla

[rotund lagoon]

Your team has no Supports

[silver dirge]

I'm not surprised, you don't really have a tank

And gauge sounds like a nightmare

[nova imp]

What’s MR?

[silver dirge]

Masked Royale

[rotund lagoon]

Masked Royal

[nova imp]

I auto read magician red

well

I’ll try