#Champion Stadium
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I have no bloody idea LMAO
Nov where are my params
special damage reduction, don't let em faint, special moves powered up, PERM FIELD 
You're not Nov 
That's Nov's alt 
true
I have entered this into the record 

It's either Lorelei or Agatha who will suffer the most in my 4k runs
On the perma field parameter
Pick guys, who will suffer on R4 between the two?
do two runs and make them both suffer
Nah, I'll only choose one

Agatha I guess, Lorelei is going to suffer from Pikaspam
Wooooo 3k CS
Still a pushover
Fuck
We haven't tested yet 
Updated! Good luck on 15k everyone
I have tested 
Look who's late š°ļø
I have already replaced you with Arch


I forgot somehow that this is poison cure Blue. Nobody advise stall.
3k won't matter to me, 4k runs all the way
just keep poisoning him 
No new Parameters so I gotta add to the old ones I guess
SS Leaf in shambles


She gets another venomous on grid, just get her to 4/5 š„±
lmao i didn't even know
That is not stopping stalling



overkill who ?
SS Steven earning his participation badge
what is my boy steven doing on the first team 
Support Takes x3 Damage was not great but I managed to Pre Sync Clear Ontype for everything except Flying
Instead, Max HP+4 and +6 instead are easy 500 points I think?
I didnāt notice anything huge from +6, so going to test it
Yeah SS Steven is just there for Sync Accel. Could switch to Nemona
He mainly just clicks Faster and that's it.
Woo first 15k done
Oh shitā
old news 
Ah it was mentioned in the datamine wasn't it?
of course
Sadddd need to get my medals
Actually have I unlocked Kanto?
I have!
So uh. This is going to be interesting.
I'm assuming there's no presets yet?
I would have thought this counts š
Thatās normal mode not hard 
Can't be that hard even if you just add like 200 on hp and make 1 more 50 point on dmg
Has steel Lance always been somewhat bulky
Any recommendations for who to do/avoid on certain rounds?
It's just R3 that you can kinda consider, Bruno is mostly physical so you can do him there. But it shouldn't matter
Just go with your usual 2.5k and try adding some strength on top, or if your teams can clear super fast you can play around with Ally HP Halved, Sync countdown etc
not really, his stage stats are fairly standard
oops, sorry for that ping
Nah it's cool
3k depends on how stack your roster is, thereās no perfect presets, just test it yourself, donāt have to follow a guide every time. But when in doubt add more str 
Arguably poison stall is the least affected by more strength and one of the most accessible options, so there's also that
never thought I'd go with Strength 12 but here we are
max HP all the way
you say that now but wait until silly stages that get to 200k HP 
granted tech nukes and such don't really care all that much
yeah, that one is hilarious to see
Dumb bee
Max HP and max strength 
I think I might round 1 Agatha but I have 1/5 SS Silver, my other good ice pairs are special
Lol nvr I had HP+4 active when I could easily grab a free no WTZ change for lance 
Fwiw I have 3 tech candies and Silver is a fave but I'm not sure if I wanna use them quite yet
If I'm using the preset 2.5 pre-sync parameters, what 500 points should I add?
Strength
Only?
Do you need more?
Ok. Let's hope this won't come back to bite me in more difficult leagues.
Were your 2.5k parameters not optimised? If they wren't you can find changes, but if they are there's not much to do.
Whoops posted multiple times lol
Strengh 11 woo
Well the strength params don't add up to 500 š
The strength parameters add up to 1200 
I mean at least with my current 2.5k setup
I use the ones from pins. I guess I'll have to play around until they add more parameters (if they do).
I used the ones from the pins too
Are you not using any atk params?
Hum. 2 post sync with lorelei and agatha.
2 presync with bruno and lance. Poison stall for blue.
Nvm I shouldn't have bothered using physical ice pairs on r1 agatha
I use presync as my basis for all of them
I did get smacked by Agatha and Lance though haha
Is agatha bulky in special or something?
Fortunately my defenses was up
nope, nothing of the sort, she has a bit higher HP than average but not that big of a deal
ok, you need to understand that the round parameters that state damage reduction are just Reflect and Lightscreen, and they do not matter, crits will bypass them so never pay attention to them
Where preset
other than taking them into account for queueing since they can ruin quadqueue, but other than that they may as well not exist
Try it yourself first 
I doubt anyone already comfortable with doing 12.5k needs any sort of preset suggestions, it's not that hard...
Just select +8hp smh
Hey guys
What about the more difficult leagues like Sinnoh/Hoenn/Kalos?
That may require some tweaking and testing, since they're bulkier and hit harder. We're working on parameters and it's not something that's going to matter for at least a month
cant wait for that
Although the same considerations will apply, presumbably you weren't adding random params to your 12.5k for the lols so there's little to do other than add more strengh/atk/hp as applicable.
Run along now, proceeds to self ko
This is how to beat Agatha like a champ
But damn that +8 makes them bulllllky
Most of the time its just adding a little hp
And no zone depending
Couldn't even add field and sprint params just fir free 100
I'm adding strength, avoiding HP as much as possible.
"for the lols" my favourite CSMM strat 
People are probably gonna want to get zone units
Can you believe i got ss piers from my first multi just before i beat that stage
Using my field units to get free +50 point tech param but also getting the +150 no zone param 
And i got cs2 on my first cookie too
Lmaooo
The problem is we need more field units too
Anyways imma go finish battle villa now catch yall later
My dumbass doing the only wtz possible stage as R1
What 3k params should I use for poison stall?
I mean 2.5k params have all that already
No Stat Reduction
Ally Healing ā5
Half Ally MP
Five Stats ā3 at Start
Five Stats ā3 at Start
⦠aww nuts I keep forgetting to make next weekās team
you can take a tank with debuff and another unit with heals. im dumb please dont mind me
Iām kinda struggling on blue. Any tips?
poison stall would work on him
I only really have fall Iris available rn-
oh my bad
it wont
he has symc cure
And I'm done.
Last time I tried kanto cs was 2 years ago lol

it will, just poison him again
poison-weak opponents have lower resistance to poison too so he'll die quickly

3k MM will be a pain during Sinnoh & Hoenn
will it? by the time we get sinnoh and hoenn we already have even more broken stuff
if glorialt was 3/5 that would be so trivial
Hi
Yes
Please help me make a team
Show us your units, screenshot them
Units?(I'm a bit new, joined in sept)
if you have time, fill your roster in the sync pair tracker for easier understanding
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units are sync pairs
If you donāt have too many just the initial 5* are okay, we will assume you have the normal 3* and 4*
The units (or sync pairs) you have obtained
Well, can certainly make teams 
You should really do all the legendary adventures first though
Why arenāt they in the screenshot? Aside from 2
They are way down
Why arenāt Ghetiss and Zinnia 5/5?
Could you please check the legendary adventures and see if you have all the items
Ghetsis for example will win the ice stage for you but you should have his 5/5
Sycamore can win a stage for you too
+legexchange
When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups
(usable on that pair only)
- Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
- DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
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For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.
Means I should use uƱits from legendary adventures
Not just them, but theyāre good and free
please make sure they are 5/5 move level and 20/20 potential
read the guide above carefully too
Ok will do
You can use the better units you have, but these Legendary Adventure units can certainly be used
I forgot we were getting 3k points now, time to wait for new presets

I'd end up making my own n then not be able to beat MM
so imma wait lol
Use the 2.5k presets and work around them. Can't change weather/terrain/zone is actually powerful considering you don't use them that much. Or the +3 on 5 stats is nice if you use haze/snatch.
Yeah ācanāt changeā was a godsend for my teams that canāt utilize those lol
I make my own and clear it just fine, just gotta adjust it for my teams
we really encourage you to try experimenting with parameters instead of overly relying on presets. if you're used to 2.5k or even 2k, then you know which parameters are comfortable for you
I've made my own parameters ever since I started last year in Sinnoh CS
Okay but im someone who likes to follow something/needs to follow something so im waiting for new parameters
I'm just gonna end up struggling if I try doing my own n I don't want that
That's fine, we're not here to dictate how you play but a large part of understanding the game mechanics and CSMM itself is experimenting with all the different parameters. 3K is mostly just a matter of adding strength/HP to your usual 2.5K params
That being said we're discussing it and will notify when there's an update
until next week I guess
Me too, canāt do master mode yet š¦
Next week is gonna be rough for me.
Weak to fighting, ground, ghost and fairy. My weakest elements.
remember offtyping and toxic stalling are always good options
Solgaleo and Mewtwo should handle Fighting and Ghost easily, tho they need grid investment
I can't believe I'm using my op units in kanto
Is this a good grid for CS?
Gonna need partners for him for r3
Spdef ones?
Against Bruno ofc
ground and ghost Im fine,I got maxie and courtney for ground and victor for ghost,fairy and fighting on the other hand
I probably will take bea to fighting,but Idk who should be her supports
Bea's amazing for fighting, Fantina can do ghost & BP Valerie's great for Fairy
You don't pick some good tiles like Brain Sync
you should probably pick all 4 tiles from his extension
Assuming you bring someone to help him setup, use this build: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2100/1800?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBhwfIiQoKSorLS4vMDM0NQ
PoMaTools is a PokƩmon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
This focuses on maxing his dmg
not necessarily ramp up and head start depending on your team, but at least the other 2
Should I use NC Blue or SS N against Agatha?
Simple solution: use neither, both shred ontype easily anyway
Just use the one you like more
I see a grid that hasnāt been looked at for a few months
just use the existing ones and add some hp or strength
Not yet atm, you can try adding more strength/HP on existing 2k5 presets (dont add too much HP unless the main dmg dealers can handle it)
Depends on the teams you are going to use
I have SS N for Agatha
with so many people asking for presets just pin an announcement 
Blue has mixed moveset so Sycamore struggles a bit
N doesnt need Sycamore
For the SpDef

you can start by looking at your old team, idk why people still have to ask fo team unless you pull a new units
Just bring another spdef buffer like Misty
then adding more str, atk...
Ok so Sycamore for Blue
they don't know trials and errors are the best way to learn
You have Drasna
Only 1/5 tho
it is Kanto after all, most of the time gen pool units can clear ontype for all region so you just need to pick suitable supports
So Drasna and Koga?
And toxic stalling is always a good strat
I have 2 empty slots
Apply what Lost said earlier
I don't really need any more supports tho
Try to think and search for suitable options
Aren't they good enough?
bring someone to buff Blue faster so he can deal dmg sooner
Options dont just mean supports
Hmmmmm, I might do an even bigger handicap to myself
See what the main dmg dealer needs, then find the best option to fulfill the demanding
Its not hard at all when you spend some time researching
toxic stall param if someone wants them (can replace ally half hp by strength 2 ig if early fight is too hard)
Ok I threw some people in
Or just defence up?
Lance team might struggle with gauge
ah, uh yeah
i mean all you need is someone with synchro healing
stat up 3 can be taken if you reduce offenses
Maybe I should stall this week I wasnāt planning on it
Nah, forget it, I'm just gonna my usual thing here
Aww man I didnāt realise Lorelei was physical
blue try not to open with leaf storm challenge (impossible)
leaf storm 1 shot most poison support 
you bring 5 different teams to beat 5 stages, and use many different types as possible to unlock type medal
first step: pick one damage dealer for each stage, then build a team around them
ok, NC Red for Agatha, and literally anyone to tank
no need to ping me
then what? i donāt have many good on-type attackers
also if your ontype options are bad, you don't have to stick with ontype, especially if you got NCRed in your back pocket
now its your turn to figure out who is best suited for each fight
Guys, is there a 3k parameters recommendations ?
It's still WIP. Right now, just add 500 more points to however suits your style
Having trouble with bruno
Team? Parameters?
It'd be much better if you can just send images, I'm multitasking with work lol
I'm using sygna suit Ethan though
Yeah, and who are the 2nd and 3rd? And the parameters, they make a huge difference
You could also fill the tracker instead of relying on in-game, too.
+tracker
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Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
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Wait did you take shields??
I immediately see several things wrong with that
Drop the defense, why don't you have Standard Damage Reduction picked up?
don't pick defense and HP
TLDR: did you check the pins?
also skyla is kinda useless here, you don't need that much healing and def buffs
Depends on the teams, but if you have an OP damage dealer, you can comfortably take +HP.
Special Damage Reduction 8 when using SS Ethan is in and of itself gonna prevent you from winning, nevermind the other issues
Anni Skyla is a good third for SS Ethan
oh lol i just saw that, yeah the sp reduction is 
Same
with anni skyla you can probably KO mid in 2 hits if you choose all offense parameters
I just copied the parameters from someone who had the same units I had as well as their sync grid lol, their team was skyla, Falkner and SS ethan
You have Anni Skyla.
Okay if you're going to tackle CS, highly, highly recommend learning what the parameters do/are
And checking your pairs, too.
If you copy params verbatim from something else 99% chances they don't work with your team
I usually have a go to parameters that work for me
Blindly copying things without understanding the why is not gonna do you any favors
The 3k is currently in the works, but did you check the pins for 2.5k at least?
But since this week is an additional 500, thought I'd try using someone else's who did manage to do the 3k
don't just blindly copy others team, you need to understand their kits, what can they do, also your roster is probably better than the one you copied from, 165 ex is def whale roster so you have more choices
Anyway, if you have SS Ethan + A. Skyla you could easily run an appropriate Support and up the Max HP on an existing 2.5k parameter set (the reason being that A. Skyla + SS Ethan can already chew through those HP numbers anyways) to make up the difference between 2.5k and 3k
ncbede is overkill but if you don't need him for anything else then pair him with those 2
Ok, I'll try half anni skyla, Ethan, and neo champ bede
more SMUN 
Yeah I don't need him for anything else
You have 3 less EX than me. I think you can manage. 

If there's one think 3k has achieved its ruin all my mixed teams
Man hope they release new params soon I want the 3k full HP to be EXACTLY FULL HP 
what paras are being used for 3k? anyone got some suggestions?
Just take your usual 2.5K params and add some HP or strength depending on your team/playstyle
aight ill try
If you've got a strong defensive/healing tank, you can also opt for halved ally HP
If you've got a team that can clear well before their sync, you can opt for sync countdown
Pre flexible, have a try of what works for you

we dont talk about bruno
#poma-lounge
They added more to the csmm no wonder I was like why did I not get full points
The weekly CS notification also had an addition saying more points were added.
Yeah 3k is still so free 3v3, hopefully fearow and raichu can hit even 1/2 of this number
I tried so hard to get a run where PR2 procs but it just requires too much RNG
Bruno has impervious
Right, forget the cheese them
who the perrserker sync pair?
Eggmon
Im having trouble poison stalling Blue because he or his supports end up eventually knocking me out last minute
God the difference between raichu and fearow is like hell and heaven
Is there even a decent poison DPS eggmon? No right
I can skip like ice I guess
I think Nidoking is considered pretty good?
Will the pins be updated for 3k? Or do we pretty much freestyle at this point?
Work in progress at the moment. For now you can just use your regular 2.5K and add some HP/Strength
Add str +5 or +3&-2cd or 1/2 hp
Also play around with half ally HP/Sync Countdown depending on team
I was already struggling on flying, that one is gonna need some really good RNG
Who are you using?
Weird, power booster blue wipes the stage
I mean I cleared it, but was not clean by any means
I'm having trouble with poison stalling Blue because I end up dying last minute 
Whatās the team?
My poison duo is Lucy and Janine w/ Ariados
I've been trying Skyla and Aaron as supports for heals but it hasn't worked yet
If you have a 3/5+ BP Morty heād probably be the best bet
Got it
Is 15k even worth it
Big ol not really
Neither do I, Iām staying at 2.5k
12.5k or even 10k wasnāt āworth itā either
If you feel comfortable, then might as well go higher, but you wonāt lose out on much
Hi everyone!
I am a returning player here. What do you recommend from my box to get higher points in Champ Stadium?
Iām guessing youāre about to share your box?
I have enough material for 1 ex of a character too
Current Ex are kyrum & ghetsis, Hilda & victini, and Brenden & Latios
A few questions from me:
- Have you done 850 params yet?
- Have you checked those params in the pins?
Also I recommend EXāing 5-6 Supports first before any other roles.
You could probably use a Ghetsis team vs Ice weak, Elesa team (if you can afford to grid her) vs elec weak, and poison stall vs poison weak
this 15k is so threatening i havent even started the champion stadium yet
but i wanna do it 
You dont need to get to 15k if you are not comfortable doing it
Rewards past ~4.2k points total are much less valuable anyways
im not uncomfortable about it, thing is i think i believe i have the units but im not sure what preset loadout i should go for
fair but the sense of completion feels nice
For now you can try running a 2.5k param set and adding on Strength or Max HP depending on your playstyle to make up the difference
Some example 3k parameter sets should be posted within the next couple days
šš
ill probably wait till then
ive been comfy with my on and off-type param sets for 2.5k though
If it makes ya feel any better, Iām sticking to 2.5k
a lil bit! haha
ive actually pulled off two wins with 3k since i got too curious but i think thats as far as im getting
laughably easy
toxic stall params but you have no status conditions?
The no status conditions param is not selected in maelās photo
The light ones are checked, the black ones are not checked.
OHHH
my bad
MY FIRST 15k CS 
Blue was rather tricky but switching Janine to BP Janine and running Synchro Healing on BP Morty helped a lot
Congrats
Probably a super niche question that I canāt get help with, but Iām currently doing 2v3s, and with the new 15k Iām struggling on Lance. All units in the video are mostly who I have leveled, tried doing Jirachi+Tank but either I donāt deal enough or take enough. Thinking I just may not be able to 2v3 lance sadly. Everyone else was pretty easy. Anyone got suggestions?
#1011213509071208451 message there's this Jirachi + Colress duo for Lance
but i'm not sure of Tate's move level
Thank you :)
see this is the problem with me - the one thing i miss by not looking at the datamine summary and itās the fact that 15k is real

3k clear but that trial@and error was tough
Steel and flying are definitely still sore spots
Work in progress 
...I have no idea what round order to go for outside of R4 Agatha
I might need assistance
Who are your tentative squads
We tell you this every time, the round orders do not matter unless it's "X Moves are powered Up" on Hoenn/Kalos/Sinnoh or Half Sync. If you really need a pointer, do Lance R3 and the rest make no difference whatsoever just arrange according to your teams
Alright, R3 Lance, thanks
Lemme check if I have the sync pairs for that
Hmm...Raihan is my only good Special Attacker...and I dunno if he's good enough for R3 Lance
Me who Did Lance not R3 on duos 
tfw you can perfectly solo lance, offtype
Offtype, possible all kanto stages honestly
Bruno is the only one I had troubles with this week
On type that is.
Why special attacker specifically?
Doesn't R3 boost special moves
Ah, that's not why I said R3
only cos Lance is fully physical so it doesn't benefit him. Don't need to limit yourself to a special attacker but Raihan will breeze through it anyway
Bruno?
Just kill the sides 
For R1, I will just pick whoever attacks with Special the most
do keep in mind r1 parameter prevents normal quadqueueing
Yeah, I know
But damn, everyone is either fully physical or mostly physical
That sucks
The conditions are usually not meant to be in our favor
It doesnt really matter so mucj for Kanto cus everything easy
But this was the first CS in a long time where i had to pick Attack Up after Hit
And i forgot to stop attacking the mid

You call it easy, but I don't remember it being easy tbh
I think the conditions can often help, but physical and special down are particularly useless at best.
Atk Up on Hit is kind of a scam node
It's fine if you don't take any HP params
But they increase their strength pretty damn quick
I only use that for pre-syncs, and post-sync and it's right out
I think they don't get a powerup if they use a tm too
they don't, mhm
i always take power on hit on top of full attack. just survive until sync, ez 
My sleep strats remain all-encompassing 
This is the way. PoH 3, Max Offense and Max HP 
I'd rather solo Cresselia with Jessie, thanks
don't knock it till you try it!
Or status moves like debuffing
PoH 3 and max offense is fiiine. very comfortable too 
Ugh...still can't find a good R1 candidate
My selection of Electric, Flying and Steel type Strikes and Techs
if you can't find a r1 candidate then just plan for the other rounds first and leave r1 planning for last, then
r1 gimmick isn't gamechanging or anything, the only thing you should be worried about is the quadqueue attempt. if you can't find a stage that can take advantage of it, then whatever

I mean, I gotta decide on a R1 candidate because R2 has literally a "choose whoever" kind of parameter
So my idea was that whoever was not picked for R1 would automatically be picked for R2
R1 is also a "choose whatever" parameter lol, you keep getting hung up on unnecessary round params. Crits bypass the special shield anyway
...then that means I can't decide on a R1 or R2 candidate š¦
It does not matter. You can use whatever team you want wherever you want
Roll a dice if you can't decide
But that's letting chance decide for me, and that's not good either
Decisions need to be done based on facts and logic, not pure chance
Instead of worrying, why don't you actually try it?
Enlighten me, what facts are those?
That's what I need help with finding out
And we have explained it to you over & over again across several weeks
What you need is more confidence in your team
I would have had more confidence in my team if I had more of those "top tier" characters
If you want to spend time hung up on absolutely inconsequential things that's up to you, but there is literally no more advice we can offer you in this regard
But that would require me to prioritize those over actual faves, and that's not good either
This is Kanto CS, you can even use eggmons as damage dealers and still get 3k pts.
You've got more than enough "top tier" characters, we've seen your roster lol.
And also, are you not aware there are videos out there with F2P clears?
Lol none of that is going to help if they can't decide which round to do what team. Even though it's frankly a waste of time since it doesn't matter
Like, if you still feel like you're not confident enough with your team, at least take the time to look at video guides in YT like 
They're more worried that the round parameter is going to give them a disadvantage rather an advantage
just build teams and decide round order by yourself
you dont get punished by doing trials and errors

and no, it doesnt waste time. you are always wasting time here by complaining instead of actually trying
E-fucking-xactly
Also, "top tier" characters don't matter, your roster is developed enough that even your so-called "low tier" characters can clear stages with ease
...oh no...my plan is falling apart on R2 already š¦
I went with R2 Bruno...not realizing he has Impervious
...that's bad, though
But who?
just decide by yourself, you cant be spooned forever
I know, but...I literally don't know who to pick š¦
And we don't even what your prefered playstyle is

I...don't really have a preference, I think?
Outside of "presync" and "on-type" for CS specifically
Also, Palentine's Elesa, 1/18 chance of using Drill Peck while Fly is her only on-type move, and that takes 2 turns
Pal Elesa exists for her sync tbh
Are you suggesting my clears arenāt top tier smdh
Darach is the main damage dealer outside of syncs
What makes you think I'm implying that 
You're not even using your Anni Skyla
Wait, was I supposed to use Anni Skyla?
My top tier units
Are you serious right now?
wdym
You're not even taking advantage of her flying zone to deal more damage
Oh...but that would mean going R4 Bruno instead of R2 Bruno
You can even use her as a flinch botter
and I already picked Agatha for R4
Does it FUCKING MATTER?
I mean, yeah, it does
The R4 gimmick makes it so my zone never runs out
Would be nice to have that
I mean...I guess I can, but...I dunno...
You're meaning to tell me that you only use a field effect if there's an infinite field parameter available?
Well, not that extreme, but
If there is a infinite field Parameter, I will prioritize it for zones/fields
Are you even considering these things or do you actually just think of only one way?
You're imposing all these restrictions and things you "can't do" on yourself for no reason & it's just making things unnecessarily complicated
If you still want to do that then fine, we can't dictate how you play the game, but we also can't help if you're going to disregard all the advice because of that
When that parameter isn't there, I only use weathers whenever an attacker absolutely relies on it (like Olivia, for example)
Darach is absolutely unnecessary with Tina
Even Tina can survive without the attack debuffs
In the example of Olivia, she's, like, my ONLY good Rock-type attacker
So I don't exactly have a choice
And you don't consider Roark as one?
Nope
Yeah, this just goes to show your mindset here
olivia is good. roark is good. end of story
I'm trying to be kind here, but if you are going to constantly ignore and argue with the help multiple people in this channel are giving you, and have given you over several weeks, do not be surprised when no one wants to help you any more.
Ah so weāre doing this again 
Iām surprised you guys even still try to help
This happens every week
Reminds me of someone in another server I know
The āno good dps or only dpsā excuse is getting tired, all the free/gen pool units can easily clear on type, no need for premium units, and then when you have limited units you didnāt even use them 
And stop worrying about the parameters, a good team can bypass them most of the time but the team building is getting worse each weak
just build 17 good ontype team and reuse them for every region and stop wasting others time

Or just ya know build a team a week in advance
They keep waiting for the parameters to do that tho, like they have to take advantage of the round and want the opponents to be at disadvantage at the same time

And now with 3k itās gonna be a mess with that team building mindset
Real
but but 10 tickets
10 tickets each week, 40 tickets each week o-o
and then the custom power up tickets as well.
You mean each month
And it can oscillate between 4 and 5 weeks for CS
err yeah each month
literally only 2 5* power ups so not missing much
but yeah, its a solid upgrade.
10k is enough if you care about BP points
I'm guessing there's extra rewards for CS because of the HS events, in case the people want to tryhard there
i probably wouldn't do 15k every week.
Hoogh
Finally manged the 15k stadium on the first try, it was kinda tough
I will just because I have the pairs
The cs felt challenging after quite some time
You mean the power up tickets
they don't really care about tickets they got too many haha
i have enough champion spirits to like... EX 20 people.
Same for champion spirits too
Did you do 15k too?
Whomst?
?
I have 2285 spirits
What does whomst mean
i think this is the 5th time I see someone struggling with flying-weak bruno and having anni skyla but not using her
I see many out of spirits on Facebook 

It means who in surreal memes
Or just an intentional misspell of who
don't usually see you in here
So did you(zen) do 15k?
ppl just hate anni skyla that much eh?
I used Blue Will and SS Morty to wreck havoc
I'm sad
Not yet, and I'm gonna do 20k anyways
Dena just hates anni skyla that much eh?
That's cool šš»
On a paid banner nonetheless! 
And she doesn't have expanded grid too
yea both paid banners too
I surf around from time to time



still the only one with fly zone so still useful with others a lot like yveltal and blue/pidgeot
especially ltr on other region rotations
Hey, that's not true

But they are, tho
Stop it
Ngl idk how long has it been since you started asking tips but the fact you still struggle even during Kanto CSMM is kinda unbelievable 
imagine hoenn/sinnoh/kalos
The round parameters are mostly in our favor if we build according to them, are the master mode parameters that usually are against us
Imma grab them all
My EX output is too great
I'm gonna tryhard this HS
I mean, you're not wrong but the main reason they're there is to try and make you have a harder time
Wondering if healthy superhit lucky skill will be worth on 6ex plumeria
Doesn't mean you can't use them to your advantage 
The round parameters 90% of the times feels that are helping or neutral at most, rarely I find them hurting me
Same
I think the forced parameter on champion tends to be harmful or neutral at best
However sometimes I think that even the champion parameter is beneficial
at least they let you choose another parameter on top of that
Stack special moves deal more damage 
maybe that parameter can somewhat counter the locked champion parameter if it's harmful
I mean, honestly they're never hurting in my opinion, just sometimes in the harder regions you gotta watch what you're doing or you make things harder for no reason
I mean the shields parameters unless you need to quad queue tends to be helpful since you generally want to give the opponent the shield regardless, and Crits bypass them
Lance also has Critical Focus to make you suffer more
So if you're very unlucky, lance can be 80% or 100% crit rate
Lance uses dire hit only post sync
I managed to 4050 pts clear with Palmer and my recording is corrupted 
In the world of Solos and Duos, you reach that point a lot
sounds like skill issue

Ah yes if you want to solo or duo it will be an issue
With regular 3v3 it should be quite easy to presync
Yup
I mean 99% of the players go 3v3 in master mode
Now do 4500 pts. with him 

What base hp stage did you use?
vs Lance, if that's what you're asking
I'm going to re-record later on a 2nd run
I do need to figure out where to fit his max move in though
I just don't end up using it
If I can, I think I can take Defense 3 as well
I usually organize like this for my +20 hp +4/6 Def (done on 29k base too)
High claw on left for denial > another high claw on mid > low claw on right for denial > max move on mid into giga impact

I have a recording methinks
If you can link would 'preciate
Ofc I was using the busted team of 1)5 SC Steven and godcerola
To max enable
Because I don't got hugh
Kanto CS 
That's even better
More theme skills
@silver dirge
This was +20+6
I ended up doing +20+8 with max move on mid
Defs an underrated support she's my go-to physical one
Ty ty will have a look later
I skipped her because acerola is fave and she unables some niche archetypes like SC Sonia, gardenia and more
King of offtype
Yah true
Such a fun unit to play
Can he off-type EBs?
So true
It's just annoying that he really struggles to kill last 10-15% hp
Yeah, the scaling is really harsh on the lower end
i really dont know
exactly lol
He can solo some EBs, I've been to busy to run him on recent 5x EBEs but I bet he could've offregioned something
Well, he can definitely solo Giovanni's EB
He would've been insane with lowest end BP being 90-93... But no, 60ish
I wonder if he can do Lance's EB despite having SE x2
At least he's prone to oneshotting or clearing with sync
Ok, steel-weak stages drive me insane
Man hoenn 3k looking scary af now
Goddamnit, all of Blue's T1 Stomp are flinching my support
@grand steppe Sorry for the ping, but will you update the guide for this week?
āKanto easy, lolā
Right, right 
I can already feel Hoenn and Sinnoh making me go back to 3v3 
Not Kalos? 
Try bump up some strength on your 2.5K params. Other options depending on your team are Half Ally HP & Sync Countdown
I think I have all strenght options already.
Oh well, all the straight-up "strenght" ones, not "attack +"
how bout the obvious ones, like WTZ, No Stat Reduction?
With +12 STR you should have already like 2700-2800 with just basic situational points tbh
Damn we don't have a dragon weak Cs till the last week šš
Fu, guess no Zerena use for me until then 
I literally just maxed her out for cs too š
Can always off type 
no ground either?
Ground is in second week.
I was told something about type medal to unlock master mode stadium?
you need to use all 18 types in cs to unlock master mode
that fills out the medal
each cs has its own regional medal so you'll have to fill it out for each region
but the medal stays there once you get it, so if you get the kanto medal when kanto comes back you'll have master mode unlocked from the start
since there is not enough room for 18 different pairs in one week you need at least 2 to fill the whole thing
but you can use the reset feature after obtaining the medal so you'll be able to do master mode on the 2nd week
Alright thank you š
Good to know before I do all that investing and work going in
I wonder how field and sprint units will impact the 3x damage tech, support, strike parameters.
I'd be interested to see if they got their own parameters for this.
Sprint and Field currently only comprise 3% of all sync pairs in the game
I think itāll be a while before we ever get their params
I'd love to see them soon. I'm struggling with 3k quite a lot
unfortunately I'm on a lower end device so it's extremely difficult to quad queue due to frame drops
what are most players using for toxic stall at 3k?
You can check out #1011675077764456519 thread they have budget ones there
#1097597679015567420 probably has some poison stall tips if you ask
Idk if they're in the regular pool but I'm sure we'd need a few sprint/field param mons available in the main pool before its reasonable
Has anyone did a clear of all stalls?
Not yet but a decent chance Azriel does it
Clemont is too nuke to be a stall 
Yay murder
parabolic charge > nuke
is it bad that im tempted to just slap Max HP ^ 8 ontop of my 2.5/2.6k params and see what happens, guys
oh and whos the biggest spatk threat of the kanto bosses this week
all my teams are kinda about equal aside from steel this week so mostly wanting to make sure if lance is a big offense threat or not
alright, basically doesnt matter for my order then
ima jump into vs lorelei to play with my new toy (sshilbert) in that case
no not really
ooh his ex colors are pretty cool
o_o i oneshot mid even on max strength and hp^8 wtf
3rebuff + terrain is a LOT more damage than i expected on a 1/5 unit
lol literally the entire champion team took themselves out with poison when i was trying to presync it 
both sides died to poison before i could finish them off
like they wanted to go out on their own terms or someth
15k wasnt too terrible even with the hp overload. only problematic stage really was steel weak, and it wasnt something a little bit of Metal Burst couldnt fix.
im scared of next week though, dunno if im gonna be able to ontype ground and fighting or not with my box. but eh, i guess its a problem for future-me 
Bea can do fighting with ease
thats good to hear, i have her exd so hope i wont struggle at all on fighting then
definitely scared of ground tho even as a Zerena and Ingo owner
i might be able to squeeze out the clear with ingo+Courtney+sandslash girl that i forgot the name of again, but itd be a lot easier if she had EX available....
and if i wasnt stuck on 1/5 courtney lol
Hey is there update recommendedd presets for 15k?
we are still working on it! 
Cool! Thank you!!!
I would say use the ones you normally use and try to give more hp params if you can and everything else you wont use for that specific stage
i had to tweak them a bit for every single battle
Only one I struggled with at 15k was steel type. Zamazenta and Solgaleo just donāt work together with only 4 gauge slots
Add a speed buffer
Ended up using zamazenta for first sync and boosts, Silvally and Urshifu
Yeh I shouldāve but worked in the end
I take it you dont have ss gio or pal marnie
Nah sadly not
So you beat everyone?
Yeh hit 15k
Nice
Especially since you used those pairs
maybe i did a little overkill with my team
Also made it harder for myself, had it set for no status conditions so Red wasnāt freezing or paralysing. Only realised against blue when I wasnāt get any poisons
So help me to defeat the trainers, last week i messed up and didn't get any pieces
+tracker
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for PokƩmon Masters EX
Yeh lmao
Last week was Unova CS, this is Kanto CS. You'd have had to start the Kanto medal from scratch anyway
It takes 2 weeks to get the medal for each region as you need to use 18 types but can only use 15 types per week (3x5)
But yea send your roster and let's see what we can work with
Should be easier
considering they wouldnt have to try to get points
Lol
I like that this week the weaknesses of the e4 werent that bad anyways
I finally feel like I donāt greatly struggle at any type now which is great
I used to need immense help with cs not that long ago
then i just learned what rounds go better with specific members
My ground greatly relies on 1/5 SS Serena but sheās so good it doesnāt matter too much
Serena just has a good sync pair track record
everyone more or less starts out decent with their first version
Finally got around to exing my 1/5 Halloween Iris so my poison damage isnāt lacking as much
Oh halloween
Yeah i kinda maybe got lucky on my first multi for ss piers and also maybe got lucky with getting cs2 for him as soon as i needed someone to help me with blues stage ššš
Wish I could go for piers or Roxie but only got 13k gems, had to go to pity on the unova banner to get Hilda
it took me 20 minutes to create that š
Oh hey again lmao

Oh definitely use ss hau on lorelei
And since youāre going for every type
Use sycamore with him
And
lorelei by this team?
ok
I mean you still wont be able to complete the thing just with one reset
Youāre going to have to still wait until it resets again
ok
Lets gooo
now?
Agatha
Ghetsis and a special support that will also help towards your medal
Or trophy thing
Umm
which support !
Use torchic
Ok torchic on the left middle ghetsis and
Use any one that can set hail
Ghetsis doesn't benefit from hail
ok
Cause i thought it did š
Unless you're using Candice to nuke and Ghetsis to DPS
oh
It doesnt matter
Shouldn't i collect pieces?
this team won't work?
is Ghetsis gridded?
also just making sure, does your Ghetsis have power boost and EX?

I'm getting more dumber
no sir
replace Oak with Roxanne
in case you havent known, you can exchange for Oak's exclusive materials in his bingo missions
what extra params should I take for 3k? I noticed its not in the pins yet
because there's no new parameter 3k is highly team dependent. there's no perfect preset and when harder regions drop it'll be very different.
just take more hp/str or atk or even half mp/half hp base on your roster/team if your tank can handle more dmg or your dps can still nuke them with more hp...
understandable š
Yea that's why it's taking us a while to come up with a "one fits all" preset. It's very team dependent
hey guys
i was just wondering... I am struggling to do 3k rn and doing round 2 Bruno. I am currently using SS Kris - Blue - SS Blue.
I wonder what i can do to ease up the battle?
What params are you using? The team shouldn't struggle at all
Sadly i don't have much more OP Flying units nor i have pairs with Flying zone.
Blue is good enough. Can you provide your Blue grid too?
Let me check in a sec...
here are my params
please turn off ping when reply to me
i would avoid picking defense up params
and pick Interference Immunity and Tech x3 dmg, since the team doesnt have any tech
you can unpick Max HP 4 and exchange for Atk up 3
I would replace SS Blue with another defense buffer, like Skyla
parameters are all over the place
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@/LazerBoi here
i could switching up the Grids for blue a bit
yeah if you use a gauge support you dont need Hurricane MGR
I would like to heavily emphasise this, never pickup Defense parameters for anything that isn't stall
still your tank is strong so remove hp, def and replace with more str/atk
sync both time with Blue
you can focus on nuke
If you want to take out someone before their sync then atk up is the best up
should work
Nothing wrong there at all
ok that worked.
Lance time.
And welp, ima use Raihan as the main striker with this one lmao
ok ez
just had to reroll the battle a few times to get a favorable bot moveset
btw what is currently the most viable poison stall parameters for 3k?
All the HP and like 100-300 strength depending on your team
I can find my recent one but basically just pile on defence hp and damage reductions then see where you are
let's see what i can do








