#Champion Stadium
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3k 2v3 dark without ccalem 
I have him but that 3k with Akari/MR is still easy 
Right I always forget she gets potion
And Caitlin hits like a wet noodle
+100 points just from "no support"
Caitlin when she goes for stored power with 0 stat buffs turn 1
62 damage 
Meanwhile, hyper beam does 1300 with -6 spa
I think Rafa wanted a recording of it if you've got one
updated cs list
Half-Sync is easily my least favorite round parameter, but this is straight up false. Pre-Syncing on a half-Sync round is dependent on the strength of the team, there is zero RNG requirement outside of whatever bare minimum you’d need in general (MP refresh on buffs, not getting an unlucky flinch or whatever, etc.). If you have a team that nukes the center and/or entire enemy team on their 1st Sync Move then you can pre-Sync on a half-Sync round easily, for example.
It’s also plenty doable to post-Sync on a half-Sync round, you just need to treat it as a regular post-Sync fight.
post sync is the easier playstyle that almost doesn't care what the round parameters are at all
Half sync often makes opponent's sync easier to tank as they have less ramped damage or buffs going on
This
Yeah when we had those 2 weeks in a row with it in Kalos
Don’t see red anytime you see half sync
It was definitely more annoying
Would you stress about half sync on kanto
Also let's be real, half sync and permanent field are almost the only 2 parameters with an actual Impact in a stage
Everything else is such a nonfactor
The other 2 maaaaybe but definitely more niche parameters with somewhat of an Impact are better debuffs and better statuses
Ehhh, secondary effects are huge too
Flinches, statuses or stat drops from moves being double likely can be very deciding
Half sync is the one that makes enemies much more challenging.
Permanent field effects and high chance for secondary effects mostly just help the player
Half sync is free 250 pts. from having -1 and -2 sync CD parameters
I hate half-sync 🤷♂️
I love it, I can do cheese strats on a whole other level
i took off vigilance and gave redlax adrenaline
I can use half MP and half HP
then i realized he has grid adrenaline which i took
which means i wasted like 10 deluxe cookies 

but now i dont wanna change it cuz adrenaline is still good anyway
Seriously, half sync can make you use parameters that you've never used before
And it's fucking awesome
Nah my galar trio always pre sync a half sync stage. B fiery wrath is broken
12k points hell yea (first time)
congrats
, next time you should post your results in #1010274591601598555
you can make a thread for yourself and update it whenever you want to with your clears
I'll do tht next time , srry
No hs1?
fr tho I don’t see much need of adrenaline on him compared to hs, tbh.
Cause hs1 cuts first sync cycle by a turn with two tms, without any extra help. So my redlax has had hs1 for over a year basically pretty sure
Was the first unit I ever gave hs lucky to
i use him with other accel units and his passives can stop quad which was the logic but i forgot he has grid adrenaline so lol
I usually use mine with turn 3 stage ending nukes the most. Since it’s not often that the enemy would survive a seun big strike nuke anyways. Unless I’m using a dps that has like a 4mg big damage or bmove nuke I don’t find myself syncing with my ex redlax often
Just tend to find it overkill to support sync if I can just oneshot most cs stages with a first sync
the fact he somewhat relies on an ontype dps is prob the main thing that balances him
and thats why everything has lessen sleep 9
Is there a beginners guide for MM?
Not exactly, but there are command suggestions
+csmm
Click the google sheet link to see presets for various point thresholds
MasterMode Presets/Recommendations :
- Full Google Sheet : https://tinyurl.com/CSMMParams
- 2500/2000 Screenshot : https://tinyurl.com/CSMMParamsv3
PoMaTools for Movesets/Stats/Calcs : https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium
Key rewards cutoffs are at 4.200 pts (850 each) for EX Materials, and at 7.500 pts (1500 each) for BP, Sync Orbs, Skill Sphere
Thank you
#1011675077764456519 https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1097597679015567420 there are these i suppose
Typically people are advised to start at at least 4200 points total for a first MM clear and move up
#1009554906568462476 message this explains the common params used for 850 point clears and why they provide little difficulty increase compared to usual cs
I mean, just by playing defensively you can get more than that.
Definitely, but 4200 is very easy for a beginner to beat
dunno who to use for marshal bc my best offtyping pairs r gonna needed Elsewhere and my poison units are. awful of course
You can Toxic stalling just fine

Man i wanted to use Bruno for champion
Pity the params are special moves boosted and have to use wally to take advantage of it
You don’t have to
Fighting Weak Iris has the 2nd lowest HP of all CS stages, so it shouldn’t matter much
More Koga slander 
Not even EX can save him from being underappreciated
it was funny seeing him hit for 15k or so with Venoshock today
I didn't even get to 2nd sync 
Disclaimer: NC Blue was the support
Recorded it, Sorry i forgot to post the video, would do that in like 18 hrs
No problem 
is grimsley high in sp def?
No he has normal base spdef
oh
was trying out EX roled zerena
but her dmg seems to be underperforming than expected
on grimsley
he does have a high base HP tho
Did you put special damage reduction 8 on or forget to restrain?
Why restrain
Zerena has restrain multipliers
i did put restrain
special dmg reduction off too
i thought it would be a straight fast ko for sides in the nuke
The Supp EX buff doesn't apply to the first sync, only after the sync
So your first sync before and after rolex should be pretty comparable
yea i know
even after that
the dmg
wise
it needed 2 zerena syncs+ 1 dps to clear the stage
yeah its 4 instead of the standard 2.4
oh
on the weird note.... Didn't know Magneton has its base Attacks lowered
Are you running her with Lucas btw?
Well damn that's interesting. Why they nerfing him like that 
no
just ss cynthia and cynthia lodge
Ah okay, that should make sense then Grimsley's a lil bulky
oic
3 gauge move before sync
may i get some help pls?
Which types you havent filled in the type medal yet?
You can see the progress in the Piece button at the bottom
how to get pieces!
by battling with the types?
but I just started 7 days ago , i wasn't able to get any pieces

Correct, you can see the pieces at the bottom like Gakon said
Is this your 2nd time doing CS btw? I might be missing something but you're on the champion stage and it says 0/18 pieces 
yeah second time
Ah okay that makes sense I think, can you click on the 0/18 and send a screenshot of the types?
Cool, unfortunately you won't be able to get all the types this week, but you should be able to do it by next week. For your current team, do you have any pairs that can help buff Wally faster?
Support or techs ?
Supports
Ideally supports, since they can also tank
“Buff faster” refers to Supports 99.9% of the time
Wdym
You can’t use a Sync Pair you used in a previous fight, so if you used Sycamore or SS Blue in a different fight that’d be why
You can probably get away with Hop and Close Combat Wally I think, even though they debuff attack
For the 3rd, do you have Kukui? Or Colress
Techs
hop is locked
see
That menu doesn’t show who’s unavailable for use

Okay, try Lt Surge + colress + Wally
Sync with Wally & then Close Combat, Colress just debuffs defense and Lt Surge tanks/buffs
tried but couldn't, guess I've to get stronger and try again next week
thanks for helping tho
Specially Arch 
No worries :) You can have a read of #1010307000346878062 in case you aren't familiar with triple queuing
do you have bea
There's also some other pretty useful information there
ok
But yea if you have Bea that's a breezy clear
even with only +2 meteor assault just does so much
Worst case scenario just throw your strongest team at the stage and/or Poison stall so you can actually get the type medal progress
Because if you don’t beat all 5 stages you don’t get that progress
Please do actually complete the stage this week, otherwise you'll get none of the "In-progress" types here
If you can have 1 or 2 extra types that you haven’t used yet on the team then great, otherwise don’t worry about it since you’ll only need 6 more types at most next week
ok
Maybe send your remaining available roster so we can have a look and suggest a team, poison stall or otherwise
Why are your 3-stars filtered out?
Could do a wonky Poison stall with Oak + Lucy + Skyla (or another tank instead of Skyla)

If you don’t wanna risk the jank for a type medal slot then replace Oak with Janine + Ariados
I'm also thinking Hydro Pump Cyrus, Winona and Support (Elesa?) might be able to do it? I'm just worried about triple queue here because that's going to be important either way I feel
Roxanne would probably work for that team, especially if she’s gridded for Trainer Move MP Refresh
She’d also get Rock on type medal
Ah true, Roxanne's great yeah
so janine lucy roxanne?
Give it a shot yeah, do you know how a poison stall works?
Your aim is to stall out the opponent as long as possible and get them to die to the poison/trap damage
So you're going to want to trap and poison everyone with Lucy, Janine has venom drench which debuffs everyone's Atk, Sp Atk and Speed while they're poisoned (this makes them hit less harder, so you survive longer). And replace Roxanne with Skyla from story or Swimsuit Misty if you've got her. BP Morty is another good option if viable. They're there to buff your defenses, again, to survive longer and also have potions to heal up your team when needed
Easy win
next time you should post your Hall of Fame or battle results in your own thread in #1010274591601598555
Does cs usually cover all types?
yes 17 types in a month, except for normal
for every region, 2 e4/champ have 4 types and 3 have 3 types, 4+4+3+3+3=17, even in a month with only 4 weeks we always have 17 types
Tried everything i could still couldn't made it, alas! I'll try again next week.
Have you tried using the free 5/5 Solgaleo?
Do you not have a tank with Potions (or some other on-demand heal) available for the Poison stall team?
wait I'll show u my available tanks 😂
look 😅
all of the good ones gotten locked as i used them already
How close are you to a 4-star BP voucher and how many 4-star Support candies do you have?
Where can I check candies
Run Solgaleo with BP Surge and Marley
That’d probably work, yeah
it should, Focus Blast is a good move and Iris HP pool on fighting weak is pretty pathetic
Who did you use Sol against?
Have you tried the Cyrus/Roxanne/Winona team?
Caitilin
no
Try that then
Huh, well seems like you are good at off-typing to go for Cobalt's team
Make sure Cyrus is gridded for Critical Focus
And use Spacial Rend once (restart the fight if it doesn’t crit) before you start clicking Hydro Pump with him
Does statistics regarding pick rates in CS exist or there's none here so far other than the discontinued tierlist pick rate from (2+2)chan & also the discontinued PoMA most pick
Are you beating mid first? Are you using Winona to flinch?
Are you making sure to triple queue and focus on the center opponent 1st?
Also yeah, Winona should just be clicking Air Slash when she’s not setting up Rain
I started like
New world order then Study buddies Then rain dance - 2 times
Then Special rand and synch move then rain dance
Then i kept spamming sp defence all and Hydro pump
Is that the correct method?
You’re using your Rain Dances way too early
Don't use new world order
Your 1st set of 3 actions should be something like Roxanne’s Trainer Move/Spacial Rend/Air Slash or Winona’s Trainer Move
Restart the fight if Spacial Rend doesn’t crit, and use Rain Dance as Winona’s 2nd action
I use rain dance as Winona's third action 
Oh lmao I'm dumb 😂
(Actually I sync with Winona but that won't work if she is ungridded)
But Rain is doing nothing until Cyrus actually starts clicking Hydro Pump and if you use both your Rain Dances back-to-back then you basically wasted an entire use of Rain Dance
The best team i can field with Akari (1) is NC Calem (3) and Fall Caitlin (2) ?_? for like Dark Weak?
I mean I'd put another dark DD over Caitlin there but anything goes 
Akari is made to be dual striking
every zone setter is

Well yea you could argue Sydney can clear Caitlin, so what's the point of Akari? 
Also the double supports don't do anything unless you're going for like a 4k run and really need defensive buffs from Faitlin
Ye, double support is fine for 3.5k or more
With NC calem even BP Karen clears Caitlin

Recoil units don't we love em
Still don't know why there is no cookie for standfast
Most pairs who want it get it from their grid and can afford to take it alongside the tiles they actually want
Those who don’t get it from their grid that want it either have it as a base passive (Raihan, BP Sophocles) or have a goofy recoil gimmick (Hugh)
And then there's Furbert
Noice. I could probably presync but ehhh i think 3/5 would be better for it


….
I'm seriously coping for perma field effects next week for my Victrier to do 4k pts. on Caitlin
Please no, I can't during LG Weak 
I barely can with 2 back to back Half Sync during LG weeks
You don't want perma field?
just don't 4k 
or whatever crazy challenge you're doing with CS

it's unova, 2.5k takes probably half an hour 
I Just solo with Lyra and Cyrus, and anything random that has a good chance
My ghost roster is trash, even if Unova is baby mode, I only got 3.5k pts. on Caitlin last week
Y’all with your high expectations
Should I use champ leaf and fight Grimsley?
Is there a reason you dont want to? Because thats an obvious question
And is this master mode?
No.
And well for a reason I don't really know if I could beat the chp after using all 3 champs
I beat Shantel but already used champ red
And the champs are my strongest units
So I wanna try my best not to use the champs so that I can secure the iris fight
Considering this isn’t master mode, it should be doable without much difficulty . Just try to use as many types as possible so that you can get the medal to unlock
People have been doing CS far before the Neo Champs were released
Is there a vid of SS Hilbert vs bug weak sidney?
There’s probably one out there, but SS Hilbert would stomp Bug weak Grimsley so easily that I don’t think one is necessary
Sidney, not grimsley
Just curious bcz sidney’s prob the hardest one
even harder than lucian imo
Ah, my bad, misread. Not quite as easy, but should still be doable fairly easily with SS Hilbert, wouldn’t even need much (if any) difference from your standard SS Hilbert team. I personally haven’t seen any videos for a clear of that nature, but there’s definitely at least 1 out there somewhere, I’m sure
I mean
Modern units can solo Bug Weak Sidney, offtype
There is no way SSHilbert can't clear it, with partners, and ontype
If Bugsy can clear it with the help of allies, no reason why SS Hilbert can’t 
Yeah was just asking bcz of sp atk debuffs and wise entry
Sidney doesn’t have wiseentryx2 tho
Sometimes I cant even clear bug weak with alder so I just end up off typing…. Including bug weak grimsley 
Lucian has WEx2
Oh rlly? Maybe its just lucian then
Ghetsis has gauge issues
these are my teams for champion stadium
any corrections/ideas?
I haven't leveled team 4 yet
Did you analyze the CS stages themselves yet? It helps to make teams where the damage dealers are super effective
Red team is good for the Fire weak
Um…
and I'm making teams w them
Not sure that’s the best way to go about picking the damage dealers
well in this game you want to build a team based on the stage you're trying to beat
You’re reading kits, right?
yes
rather than having a bunch of universal teams for everything
Check the type weaknesses of each stage, and things to know.
omw
This is why you don’t tunnel vision tierlists
in pins we have the things that are noteworthy for this week if you dont know what to look out for
a lot of techs can work as dps nowadays
Why are you only focusing strikers
i already did grimsley and marshal
i usually build the team around them
since theyll be the ones dealing the damage
We use the term damage dealers because strikes are not the only ones that deal damage.
thats why reading sync pairs' kit is important
Tfw tech can outdamage strikers
Do you need me to plop the teambuilding guide?
> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.
1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a
/
striker or a
tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.
2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a
to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!
3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!
Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!
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Wait, did you do Victory Road yet????
laughs in redchu
yes
why cant the ping just stay off
Discord moment
you hit off once and it stays off until you turn it back on
because discord
Just get in the habit of doing it
Use the teambuilding guide to make proper teams. If you are still struggling, take a break then read the resources when you’re back.
i have to go do something rn
ill do that
i have to read more
just for college
my head hurts
Well you’re reading which is more than a lot of people
gacha games and tcg are proof people don’t read
having trouble w marshal, do yall think this could work
you can just toxic stall
also dont ignore Koga and Roxie, they are excellent accessible options for Poison type
Everyone loves sleeping roxie 
gotcha
any specific supports yall recommend?
Whoever does what they need
Roxie + Lucy + an Attack/crit Support (order of desirability is 3/5 Sonia > 3/5 Hilbert > the rest) can beat Marshal just fine if you’re gonna run an offense-oriented clear
For Poison stall it’s the usual suspects
alrightie
already used sonia so ill probably go with hilbert
There's also Aaron & Shauna if you've got them
But Hilbert is the best since he also buffs speed
Hop also exists if you find you need fast Defense buffs to go with the Attack + crit buffs
I am sure you can poison/vampire stall Marshal yes
OG Valerie 
Can she? Isn't she too frail?
im thinking of 3/5 Rosa
Giga Drain gaming?
she is a good tank on special side
Maybe if you max out defences and lower attacks. I'll have to try it next easy grass weak rotation.
F2P is pretty much sycamore
There are more options but they are límited units like VMallow
There is Lodge Dawn too 
BP Barry 
might use hop instead bc wow hilbert has no bulk at all
grid him for endurance
How dangerous is it to use roark in cs
I know he's a solid unit now, I'm just worried because of the recoil esp cs units have huge hp
It’s not that dangerous, his recoil grid helps it a ton
Sadly not to BP Soph level, but still good.
toxic stalling is such a drag x_x
I’m pretty sure stalling can be put to x3 speed after you poison/debuff
It’s legit free, anyone can do it.
I usually just rely more on the sync then use move to kill the sides, pretty breezy that way
Hmm good idea
Ok I'll try him out for rock next resey
Other than Just taking some minutes, is very easy to do
Very easy as long as you bring a potion user
Clemont, sometimes rarely
Lana
maybe bp barry? also on grass weak
Maybe Rosa if 3/5
no crit buffs and garbage special attack good luck lol
also no defensive buffs either unlike lana and sycamore
How hard is it for 1/5 ssn to clear ice unova?
Been procrastinating this weeks cs cause wanted to try ssn on the cs once I grab him
Haven’t decided if I’d also use irida with him or not, since he’s physical 
For now, it sounds like they’re going to fix it
But yeah, ssn ontype is super easy at 1/5
I like using EX Aaron for acc and attack buffs, and since he really wants the support EX effect at 1/5
Also for dark type which dark should be my buildaround probably for halfsync dark
Prob gonna be halfsyncing dark since I’m using r3 on ice most likely
Even with the sentry entry x1.5, Marnie should still be your best bet
Could use her with a supp ex or with Sidney/MR, whoever works better
Even with summer n at 3/5 is she better prob?
For half sync without any entries, I guess Sidney nuke and CMarnie B move should be comfortable
Summer N needs some setup for his nuke iirc
Marnie will straight up nuke dark weak with a BMove
no 2 ways about it
Truly a Champ Marnie moment
They meant for solo?, then she's pretty bad, but if you can bring a crit buffer she can tank pretty well with giga drain master healer
For solos she has negative gauge, but should be fine in a 3vs3

does Argenta get anything decent at 2/5? or does her qol at 3/5?
Team Sharp Entry, TM Hit & Heal, TM MPR.
quite a bit, yeah
hum.
Quick Tempo and Sterner stuff too iirc
unbending and stalwart as well
unbending could be nice.
quick cure
quick cure and natural remedy is always nice qol
ah wells i'll use
Registeel (3) + Solgaleo + Pal Marnie (1) for Grimsley tomorrow
i put Argenta in, but didnt think they'd hit with Speed Downs.
it'd be nice to have an EX Support though. oh wells.
Thus should do it i think
ya think?
wont know until we get the
Their "things" i guess
if all else fails, i'll offtype keke
I was joking
most of those teams are overkill as hell, and this is Unova
Kukuku.... excellent....
You need 3 units for a stage?
Yep
He does. Innate confusion + Interference Sync 5 + Sync Power Flux
his stored power damage is also very respectable, I pair with Bianca for double trouble in terrain and it's amazing
Who can i pair to give him crit
Would sabrina work
Oh feck this is the marshal stage right
Yeah I was gonna say Sabrina, she's a l'il frail so may have to adjust some params/reset if they go for violence
That bozo uses brick break against my reflect 
Do you have any limited special supports? SC Jasmine, NC Blue, NC Bede, SS Kris?
I'll just bring out the big guns and give will ncbede
Could go for one of those

If you do choose to run Bianca too, that's great cos she would like some crit as well
I'll do the unthinkable and use ssteven instead
Normal Forme SS Steven 
But instead of any forme, I'll just use try this and use him just for terrain 
How does this look for this week?
Should be pretty easy
Question: What’s with that CS Level 4 team?
Eh, didn't really have much else that would add into things so I decided to bring in SS Lyra. She's part of my sun team for grass pokemon but she's self sufficient on her own to do stuff.
So…..that’s a grass team??
If it’s really meant to be a grass team, how come both NC Leaf and SS Morty are there? I understand if one of them is meant for a grass dealer that wants Sun like Adaman, SS Erika, etc, but that’s not exactly what I would call a grass team.
I’m assuming that’s for the fire weak stage
Fire Weak isn’t next week 
Fire weak is this week
Fire weak ends today (unless they’re planning to do it today……….)
So is dark, fighting, and ice
It’s almost three hours until reset…..
Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?
Hard
You can use Solgaleo’s Focus Blast.
Solgaleo has Impervious and Iris will debuff you.
Luckily, MC & Solga maxes offenses in two uses, so they just need Crit buffs and gauge.
Whoops i forgot about him completely i forgot to even level him
It’s ok, that tends to happen with those mixed typing pairs
Isn't that the week after? 
Naur I looked at the wrong week 😭
yea this week's types are kinda boring ngl
Time to do funny Kimono Grimsley shenanigans
funny numbers
oo i can try out fallister this week
oh for sure
except when the side continuously hits you instead of the mid
I really don like Naomi ngl
Hmm do you have Ingo?
Sadly not
Who are you gonna run for sand
If I had Ingo I'd be able to maximise both sand and ground zone
I was just gonna substitute with SS Brendan or just kick out Courtney for Bertha
in that case can just bring a support to help w gauge
yea if god forbid I ever run Naomi I just go for Bertha
and a special support
The Naomi hate is real
But tbh I get that
Maybe if she had her EX
She doesn't exactly have a lot going for her
yeaaa
She's just generic striker number 60000
Also if you wanna maximise her nuke you'd need to have a specific comp of sand and zone
Mhmm and i've got several more interesting ground options
Pre much just need Ingo if you want Courtney there
See I would use SS Gio but I've used him too much
Laughs
Okay yeah can't blame you there
Yoo Hapu gaming??
Yessir
Maybe I'll join in and use the cheat code to support her
Brutal Clarity gaming
Aka SS Godcerola
I'm gonna have to use budget Godcerola
cos I don't have her
but it works cos Argenta buffs accuracy/defense and Hapu has Brutal Clarity/Tough Cookie
You'll get her...eventually
That I shall
Oh you use Brutal Clarity on Hapu?
I generally don't grid that
I just have all the sync stuff
I'm a DPS kinda guy like to see how high the DPS can go
Sync nukes are meh
So I'm gonna try Brtual Calrity + Dizzying power + Tough Cookie
If only we had a better accuracy debuffer
True true
Ah fair I'm the opposite
I like seeing funny sync nukes
It's the whole reason why I'd use someone like OG Hilda over Leon even before she got her grid buff
See I would too, but only for that Flare Blitz damage and self KO
SC Steven is one of my fav pairs in the game because he enables those big DPS numbers
For real. but hey her grid makes it so much better now
And she has high HP too
SC Steven is such an insane enabler I honestly wonder what the devs were thinking
They knew what they were doing tho cos they didn't make him a support 
He'd be broken if he had access to support EX
Watch them give him striker for his ex role
updated
Couldn't complete in time... half sync presync ice took too long with rng
No one to blame but myself, anyways
hm no half sync or perma field
We're free from half sync for once
I'm ngl half sync kinda grew on me
it makes for some interesting clears
Anyone to avoid/save for certain rounds this week?
nope
Now to wait for datamine and then can prepare for next week.
Chandelure gaming
@silver dirge i did it (except i used defense for stored power dps, sorry)
It completely slipped my mind that we have another Unova week haha
Ready for next week
This week I brushed off some old units like Helena and Steven who performed splendidly and even got to see WRoxanne absolutely murder everyone lol
Oh wait, I forgotten next week is the true end of Unova also.
Woo will representation!
Got my first 12.5k today! Could’ve done it awhile ago but actually sat down this morning and worked out the best modifiers

Do higher points 
do solos
I usually do 3k 2v3, went for "oldies/freebies" 2.5k this week
Does dena have an allergy to perm field for unova?
I don't care about 3.5-4k because it doesn't let me use my faves
so based
2v3 3k is right now the perfect balance of difficulty and pair freedom so I'm not changing it unless I get a vibe like this week
I prefer the 3.5k+ points challenge for myself, more satisfying to me since it doesn't screw with CDR
at least no half sync this time
Yeah I get it, I just don't like over relying on the same exact combos every time with minor changes
ya i can understand that too
I just bring out some wack story pair and try and make it work instead 
Yeah I mean you've seen what I did this week
Wikstrom I really don't like, his bulk in sword form is non existent, especially when there's Snarl involved
Presyncing with those duos was very fun
ah yea that's true, I usually mitigate that by running max HP and less strength so they don't do too much damage
I really can't stress how fun Victor is
I haven't used Victor ever pretty much 
Max guard on ally + max damage guard is a slept on strat
Because brute force better 
Yeah, but brute forcing is boring after 40-60 weeks
Well, that's for you I guess 
Yea
It's all personal
As long as you beat csmm with over 7.5k points you're not losing anything of big value
I really hope for a harder CSMM upgrade sometime soon, I'd love more stages like the Sinnoh/Hoenn ones with gimmicks and all
Paldea CS when
Or update Johto/Kanto/Unova so they aren't a cakewalk 
What about Alola?


Oh I forgot about Alola LMAO
Alo-who
I actually first started doing CSMM during Sinnoh CS last year
I got 7.9k pts. on my first CSMM
jumping straight in
I have no idea tbh
I feel like it was a little bit after Alola CS’s debut?
Yeah, the only thing to really keep in mind is that the damage reduction field parameters mess with quadqueue
Which isn’t a big deal for a ton of teams
I can just bring adrenaline stuff there if needed
Cause adrenaline “fixes” quad related problems
Bit curious if it still stops quad if you use long animations like spring burgh metronome
Or if you run 1-2 sync cd
I think we need new round parameters
Is this the team I should use for marshal this week? Tried it 5 times and always super close to beating it…. Or what kind of supp can I use for it?
So note you do not need to do monotype teams.
Also Liza and SS Dawn are redundant iirc
Also, I recommend your Giovanni over Caitlin.
Unless Gio is being used for Ghost?
No, he’s free. I tried Giovanni and found I’m dealing less damage. Maybe because of team too. Also should I be pivoting toward psystrike or psychic if using mewtwo
Generally Psychic, it deals more with the grid and can also drop SpDef
Psychic is better in this situation.
If enabling stat reduction, what should the bonus points be?
Or is it okay to have it turned off
Which points are you doing? And did you check the recommended params in pins?
I……….why did I think the Sp Atk increase was on base…? 
Checking it out now and seeing what the change. Haven’t checked it out yet. Srry.
You can turn off ping please. And yeah, go check that sheet.
So with them, I would have maxed spedef SAttack have 4 on defense
Also max crit too
I personally think Sabrina is a better choice for Sp Atk increases. And Gio just needs to set up Crit on his TM
Okay. I’ll give that a try. Thanks
So yeah, SS Dawn, Sabrina and Gio. See if that works.
First sync on Giovanni?
If he has Mega, yes.
Yeah. And second for dawn or all on Giovanni
Gio.
If worse comes to worse, I guess SS Dawn second sync, but I recommend Gio more for sides (if he doesn’t do so on first sync)
Ok. Ty
Who to go for in round 2 already done grimsly
You need to decide the order based on your teams and the gimmicks of each CS.
I do not know your teams, do you have team plans?
What kind of support can I use for mew for marshal
Oops meant mewtwo , idk if mew can even do it
I am thinking Sabrina and clefairy
You’re right that Giovanni wants SpAtk buffs
Have you noticed Giovanni’s grid has boosts for enemy SpDef drops? You could potentially incorporate that.
I am missing the power to kill sides idk if I should try postsync
Remove Sycamore from Alder's team. Him and Diantha fight for sync
What's NC Leaf there for too?
debuff
Pair SS Diantha with another rock DD and a physical support depending on what that DD is
Marshal's team doesn't need SS Blue there, you can put in another psychic DD like Will or Bianca
Replace Elio with a better physical support on the Shauntal team (Shauna, Aaron, Hop, Hilbert, Sonia)
i beat the first one
yes
Put NC blue with Gio
i dont think i have any rock dds
gordie?
oh i got olivia
Nah he wants sync nuke too heavily. Olivia yes
i got sonya
Do you have Lucian?
yes
what about tapu lele
That's your Marshal team, no? I'd just put Bianca with her
Caitlin
but lucian is psychic
That's fine, only your DD's type matters
yes
Ya that should work
so just spam blue sync?
You should be done with it in less than 2 syncs
Either or is fine, I think Will has the higher SpAtk stat but don't quote me on that
Yeap that should work
ok
Also this is not a necessity, but you may wanna check out Fantina for ghost weak stages. She's quite decent, and a great pair to make use of NC Blue's buffs
and replace elio with hilbert
i dont think ive ever used her
She also has a ghost type sync so that's not an issue either
Np, don't have to just a suggestion
Shadow Ball Fantina > Shadow Ball Morty though
ok
Morty will still do fine
i beat shauntal

gg 

What do the pre sync and post sync on the point screenshot mean? Like enemy more sync moves?
Pre sync means defeating the enemy before they sync
A lot
Yeah, there are too many teams capable of pre-Syncing to make an exhaustive list. The primary thing for pre-Syncing is general game wisdom of proper triple queue and focusing the center opponent 1st
And post-Sync just means you don’t care whether or not the opponent Syncs
Pre sync usually requires players to know game mechanics to a degree. And yeah, to focus down mid and, in some cases, try to deny the enemy from having turns to ready their sync. I think general consensus is that a player that knows how to work their party and such, should be able to fit in two syncs before the enemy can get one in. If things all go correctly.
Are either of these physical stages?
I assume not from trainers but
At laundromat just trying to pass time lol
They don’t use physical moves
Ok thanks
Nah none of them are physical
Grimsley iirc
Ah of those 2?
Both special
im tempted to repeat this csmm just to use my new exed shauntal
go for it what's holding you back
Can me get help for the one that's weak to psychic
Marshal
I already beat Caitlin and Shauntal
I wanted to use ross
Rosa
a special buffer + Lucian are good teammates for Giovanni
oh
There’s lots of Supports who buff Sp. Atk. by 2 stages at a time
Assuming you mean Lillie + Clefairy she’s a fine option for a Sp. Atk. buffer in this instance, yeah
Just make sure to use at least 9-12 unique types across your 5 teams if this is your 1st time doing CS
Should be able to hit the 9-12 threshold just fine with your final 2 teams, worst case scenario
What specifically went wrong?
I think lillie died to quickly
Are you using Growl with Lucian?
and then conkellder used it's sync move onto Lucian
Yep
and it leered next turn and died
How many Sync Moves are you using before the opponent Syncs?
1
What’s your Sync countdown at by the time the opponent Syncs, then?
I forgot but maybe 7
That’s too high, either Lillie is getting KOed so early that your triple queue is ruined for the majority of the fight (in which case it’s likely that either she’s underleveled or you got unlucky and the opponent spammed their strongest moves) or you’re not properly triple queueing
Probably just need to take another shot at it and hope they don’t spam Close Combat. You’re making sure to triple queue, right?
After your team’s 3rd set of 3 actions, wait for Sync to be available before you queue anything, and queue Sync -> move -> move as the next set of actions
That way you get your next Sync Move faster
oh yay I wonn
okay
I just spammed like
Nowhere to hide and Full Power x2 with growl
Then Psychic, Growl and Disarmin Voice over and over again
should this work for grimsley
i would use Solgaleo as the dmg dealer
Can roll with something like Solgaleo + crit buffer + Normal type Support, potentially
She doesn’t buff crit, but if Electric is a type you need on the medal and you’re not gonna use Sonia elsewhere then her + a crit buffer will work fine for Solgaleo’s teammates
only the sync type counts
so she is Electric type
Yamper is pure Electric type in mainline games tho
Use a crit buffer and bring a Normal type to the final fight if you can, you need Solgaleo to have crit buffs
1/5 solgaleo, don’t forget to upgrade your Legendary free pairs
Since we get free 20/20 5/5
Ok
I went for the crit up
and only that
So it’s just a straight line
I’m also new
Been playing for like 4 days
so I have the resources from the early game like the gems and the tickets but not a lot of sync grind material
That’s ok
Oh perfect
Do this and this
That should help you out and be enough to clear
I’d also recommend doing a stage that uses physical attacks like Marshal as that way you can make use of the defence buffs
Skyla’s TM (Take Flight) buffs defence which lets you take less damage against physical attacks. Marshal uses physical attacks so fight him
Oh yeh I understand that
But don’t I have to complete them all
So regardless or whether I battle him
I’ll still have to beat the other eventually
You can only use 1 team per stage
what’s the point of me doing this then lmao
I don’t have any good sync pairs lmao
I’m just doing this to grind all the resources
my only two teams
Ar e these two
The rest of my pairs are the free pairs
- Some free pairs are good, you should invest in them
- Even if you can’t complete all stages it’s good to do them as they reset weekly and you get stuff that will let you eventually EX units
If you want we can make 5 teams that could clear if you post your roster here
Tbh... We do champion stadium for rewards o-o/
For newish players, options to EX a unit.
Yeh I guess all resources are good
What I would like then
Can you guys help me build a ghetsis team for the event
So I can get him decently strong
Your current team should work out if you invest in them
Try to ex ghetsis and his powerboost
is it safe to invest in them though
As well as you legendary pairs.
Yeh I like Cyrus
Yes, all legendary pairs are good units, ghetsis is one of them
helped me clear a bunch
Mewtwo, xerneas are at 1/5 ooof
still stuck on some 135 quests
I can get them to 5
sorry for the @
I hate that I have to keep turning it off
With the legendary events
I can get all the legendaries to 5/5
So the unova team I have right now
Should I sync grid them
To grind ghetsis recourses
You do
I thought 13000 was a little amount
Skyla’s a great support for newer players, she has potion and buffs speed
Well if you’re using her in every team why would it be useless to make her stronger 
Is it just to get her stronger
The tile i went for gives you a chance to get potion uses back
Cause my thought process was they are just support pokemon
Like once I’ve used the Tom’s
Tm*
They are useless
Just move spammers
Oh that’s good
Nvm
Her potion tm heals you, so for stages that do lots of damage you have a chance to still be alive yeah
Okay
That should also help with the CS stage if it procs
I appreciate it
I’ll give marshal a try
With this team
And grind the event with it
Good luck
Is this team also good
For other stages
For example
One sec
Stages like these
I just can’t clear with the palkia team
Or would you suggest I also max palkia sync grid
You might struggle with Leon as he’s a relatively newer one but the team break one should be clearable?
Well what do you have his grid at currently?
Just this
Went for the crit up
I got some advice from some people yesterday and they said the ghetsis team is a good unova team
But they said Cyrus is v strong
Cyrus with a sync grid is better than Ghetsis with a sync grid. But you don’t have Winona yet so you can’t fully utilize him just yet
But even then he is strong yes




