Could just go Mina + Physical Buffer + Defense Debuffer
#Champion Stadium
silver dirge
formal vigil
Just use someone like darach
nocturne pawn
yeah but its slow and mina needs full offensive babysitting
formal vigil
Darach-2 and its aoe
nocturne pawn
i forgot about darach tbh so yeah use him
verbal karma
...Darach-2?
formal vigil
Feather dance
formal vigil
Darach has no alts
silver dirge
There's only one Darach
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silver dirge
Lol Darach -2's attack every turn
formal vigil
-2 attack
verbal karma
oh
verbal karma
derp
silver dirge
yeah that'll do the trick
nocturne pawn
and hilbert fully sets her up
verbal karma
okay, so...Mina, Darach and...uh...
formal vigil
Hilbert Aaron or sonia
silver dirge
Lol I just realised Mina does absolutely nothing for buffs on her own 
nocturne pawn
Lol I just realised Mina does absolutely nothing for buffs on her own <:TabithaH...
her tm copies enemy stats
which is
just
so reliable
you know
silver dirge
formal vigil
You can grid for crit buffs
nocturne pawn
not inconsistent at all
verbal karma
Hilbert Aaron or sonia
ah, all 3 options without Adrenaline
nocturne pawn
that can max attack and crit
verbal karma
I guess that hardlocks Marshal to R1
onyx ice
Lol I just realised Mina does absolutely nothing for buffs on her own <:TabithaH...
If you pick opp stats ↑3 she's quite self sufficient
nocturne pawn
I guess that hardlocks Marshal to R1
only sonia doesnt work
formal vigil
Why do you need adrenaline
nocturne pawn
other 2 you can quad queue with
and if you have skill issue gauntlet is literally live right now
verbal karma
Why do you need adrenaline
I would need Adrenaline for R3
verbal karma
anyway, looks like I finally have my order set
silver dirge
Hilbert can max her out, Mina and Darach set up Pecking Order and boom
onyx ice
The main issue of mina is the pathetic base ATK, BP Valerie is much better
nocturne pawn
its unova you can probably just kill with first sync
nocturne pawn
whats mina’s innate
silver dirge
Pecking Order
nocturne pawn
is it pecking order
silver dirge
Yeah, so 2 pecking orders in total
dark osprey
Mina, Sycamore and surgechu was my go to f2p team
silver dirge
What is sycamore doing there
dark osprey
Damage 
silver dirge
fair enough tbh
onyx ice
For fairy the best f2p damage dealers are sycamore and BP Valerie
onyx ice
Yes the autocorrect changes f2p with for
mild hatch
Autocorrect is never fun
dark osprey
Yeah. Those were and kinda still are hard times for fairy
silver dirge
Fairy's always lacked good f2p options, even after the type itself got better. BP Val is a good addition
silver dirge
Bug was a contender too but Burgh's powerboost is amazing
dark osprey
Yeah. Ground, bug and dark still compete I guess
grand crater
ground
silver dirge
Nah dark's got sydney, MR, Karen
dark osprey
Yeah. The 5*gachas seem ok. Ground kinda has courtney and Bertha. They just look so slow to actually be used. But actually do get the job done especially at 3/5+
dark osprey
Oh yeah. She reruning was good for newbies
silver dirge
I willingly ignored her because no EX 
dark osprey
Naomi plus Victor max quake 
old orchid
you are underestimate her
silver dirge
She is pretty good tho, just gotta run sand
silver dirge
Naomi plus Victor max quake <:EthanGenius:609191324515827732>
Let's not forget Earth Power May
onyx ice
The only ground saving grace is that Ground zone is in the ticket scout pool
silver dirge
I would run Earth Power May over Naomi any day
old orchid
silver dirge
dark osprey
With the new parameters favouring on type lots of those dual types have got pushed away
toxic cobalt
Still works fine, just don't expect sync damage
silver dirge
buff ftw
onyx ice
Not every damage dealer need to sync
Coverage units are still useful if you don't plan to sync with them
dark osprey
Yeah. Just that it's easier with the sync. Going offtype params might be better still but also may need better tanking
old orchid
dont sync with Oak on Ice weak stage, got it
onyx ice
Oak is only decent in psychic weak
dark osprey
His power boost is long due
silver dirge
Let's not forget Earth Power May
Lowkey tho, Ingo + May kinda goes hard for ground weak. Surging Sand 5 & Hide n Sync, Ingo enables both
verbal karma
...welp...I am hosed
nocturne pawn
ee
verbal karma
can't beat R2 Caitlin with my SSR Cynthia team
verbal karma
ah, I see
silver dirge
There are 100% better options out there
onyx ice
Lowkey tho, Ingo + May kinda goes hard for ground weak. Surging Sand 5 & Hide n ...
But may sync is water so you still have to take away on type parameters and sync for offtype damage
verbal karma
...well the support I am currently using is SS Elesa
onyx ice
Plus you need Rain to do any meaningful damage with may sync
verbal karma
Uh no don't do that. SSR Cynthia's sync is physical
oh, don't worry, I only use SS Elesa for the sync accel
since I have MPR on her TM
silver dirge
Yea but who is finishing off SSR CYnthia's buffs
verbal karma
...huh...
silver dirge
She goes +4 on atk/sp atk
mellow linden
Just run SSR Cynthia + another Ghost damage-dealer + an appropriate Support
onyx ice
Anything that gives +2 on both can finish the Cynthia setup
silver dirge
It's R2 btw, tryna one shot mid
mellow linden
I ran SSR Cynthia + Shauntal + Teapot Lillie on half-Sync round and did fine (albeit I had some luck from getting Light Screen on Lillie’s Trainer Move)
old orchid
onyx ice
Generally i run Fantina + Kiawe + Renegade Cynthia
silver dirge
It's a pretty easy clear with a 3/5 EX Cynthia, she one shots mid with just the innate
mellow linden
If she’s 3/5 she also gets Brain Sync 5 in grid
silver dirge
Yea
silver dirge
But may sync is water so you still have to take away on type parameters and sync...
Yes, it's definitely not ideal You also lose out on Raging Rain 5 if you wanna run sand
verbal karma
Okay, I won: just had to sync nuke one of the sides instead of the mid
silver dirge
for turn denial?
onyx ice
I use 1/5 Renegade Cynthia
verbal karma
for turn denial?
both that and because the left side would have killed SSR Cynthia otherwise
anyway, now I gotta decide on a good enough Sun setter for my Burgh team
dark osprey
If no ss Morty, the egg sun setter we got recently is great
Don't want to murder the name of that Pokemon
grand trout
Fuecoco?
mellow linden
If the Support is able to handle Burgh’s necessary buffs then yeah, any Sun setter works
silver dirge
It do be SS Brendan himself
mellow linden
Yeah, that should be fine
dark osprey
Fuecoco even buffs crit by 2 and tops off sp atk that's why he's quite good with Burgh
silver dirge
oh yeah Fuecoco is amazing 
works especially well because Grimsley likes to snarl
And fuecoco can top the SpAtk back up
dark osprey
Oh yeah that too. Hopefully the thunder wave doesn't annoy at the end
grand trout
Hnessa can clear ice next week on her own, right
I always used her as an accessory of summer steven but i think next week i should use her as my main dps
grand trout
Ah no just the main clearer
grand trout
Let's hope next week we get permafield
silver dirge
Yees, permafield my beloved
grand trout
Half sync my behated
grand trout
Also i find the damage reduction stages interesting
Like at surface it seems like it's advantageous for you
Until you realize it means you can't normally quadqueue because of it
minor mauve
Half sync my behated
Just use champ marnie skill issue
grand trout
I don't have her
minor mauve
Skill issue
silver dirge
Well I mean "use champ marnie" and skill issue don't really fit in the same sentence
grand trout
I can clear half sync just fine, thank you very much
Doesn't change the fact i still dont like it
silver dirge
Yeah I feel ya
I've strongly disliked it for a long time, just cos it's annoying not necessarily hard
grand trout
And how in the world did you interpret me disliking half sync as me asking for help for it
Sounds like a skill issue on your part.
grand trout
I've strongly disliked it for a long time, just cos it's annoying not necessaril...
I can feel you too as it can be a challenge in a good way sometimes
Like unova week 1, i used half sync for Mewtwo and i figured out a way to make mewtwo sync and deny marshal the opportunity to
silver dirge
I think you're fine
verbal karma
If the Support is able to handle Burgh’s necessary buffs then yeah, any Sun sett...
Support is SS Brendan
latent bison
swift swan
Support is SS Brendan
should be fine then
verbal karma
...nope
the Burgh & SS Brendan team is NOT working out
SS Brendan actually can't fully buff Burgh's crit
keen jasper
He is 3/5 right?
keen jasper
So does that mean you didn't grid his Team Sharp Entry?
verbal karma
his what?
keen jasper
You actually don't know about that?
verbal karma
...okay, just checked, and...
grand steppe
Pokémon can trigger entry passives again by mega-evolving. (Also works on transformation changes)
keen jasper
grand steppe
keen jasper
I cannot give him Team Sharp Entry
That's literally one of his most crucial nodes
grand steppe
you don't need brendan's mpr
verbal karma
you don't need brendan's mpr
but...his TM only gives one crit...and Team Sharp Entry ALSO only gives one crit
how is Burgh supposed to get his third crit then?
keen jasper
but...his TM only gives one crit...and Team Sharp Entry ALSO only gives one crit
#1009554906568462476 message
Like 
verbal karma
<:MEGA:967451573754138654> Pokémon can trigger entry passives again by mega-evol...
oh
oh yeah, I forgor 💀
...wait, shit, Team Sharp Entry is on the way of his TM MPR, tho
AND costs 10 energy points
steel kelp
They are
verbal karma
Or are you that reliant on his TM MPR?
I actually am not
swift swan
you don't need TM MPR
verbal karma
but the thing is: I have to sacrifice MORE than just his TM MPR
swift swan
sacrifice what?
keen jasper
Yeah, what exactly?
swift swan
like this grid is already very ideal
swift swan
either his Potion MPRs or his Adrenaline
you're presyncing. brendan will be busy debuffing sp def. you won't have time to potion anyway
grand steppe
When Brendan syncs, and mega evolves, team sharp entry activated again.
verbal karma
I...kinda HAVE to potion, though
verbal karma
because Burgh is very squishy
keen jasper
That's what Team Tough Luck is for
swift swan
reset if you get hit by an AOE then
verbal karma
I get hit by an AOE every time, though
swift swan
or maybe you picked up strike pairs take x3 damage
keen jasper
Unless you somehow don't get the defense raise
rose ermine
Today i learned lance is an insane offtype when paired with dual debuffers
steel kelp
Yes
verbal karma
too bad it's not good enough when it's a crit
steel kelp
What
keen jasper
when the AOE is a crit
Just unlucky
verbal karma
the one that Burgh gets hit by
verbal karma
Just unlucky
I must be super unlucky then, considering it happened to me 95% of the time
...the crit, I mean
the beginning AOE happened 100% of the time for me
keen jasper
Are you going to let that stop you?
verbal karma
well, no, but it will make me consider using a different team
steel kelp
Why
keen jasper
What if I record a successful clear with your team? Will you keep on trying it?
verbal karma
I don't know...
swift swan
why are we trying burgh again
verbal karma
because it was suggested to me
low linden
u know at times like this it might be better to show your pool of sync pairs
grand steppe
What stage even has crit
steel kelp
None
swift swan
What stage even has crit
i think that AOE crit is a huge exaggeration
low linden
Burgh was probably recommend because he's in the permanent pool
verbal karma
alright, had to sacrifice the Potion MPR for Team Crit Buff
swift swan
are you sure it was a crit and not you taking strikes get x3 damage
swift swan
Burgh was probably recommend because he's in the permanent pool
i know trin has alder
verbal karma
are you sure it was a crit and not you taking strikes get x3 damage
yes, it showed the critical hit pop-up
and I have Strike x3 turned off, not on
keen jasper
and I have Strike x3 turned off, not on
How much did Burgh take from the crit EQ?
keen jasper
Snarl, hmmmmm
grand steppe
Snarl lol
keen jasper
How much was it?
keen jasper
And that was crit?
verbal karma
yeah
keen jasper
steel kelp
silver dirge
I cleared with the exact same team on max HP + offenses, the AoEs barely do anything
verbal karma
anyway, lemme try again, but with the Team Crit Buff on SS Brendan equipped
silver dirge
Brendan gives +4 spDef off the bat
verbal karma
maybe I'll be more lucky now
swift swan
how's your burgh grid
keen jasper
My SC Emmet can survive a Snarl from half HP with Strike Sync Pairs Take x3 Damage
low linden
Guys if ontype fails offtype with a much better striker is an option 
verbal karma
has Solar Flare and...uh...that one Sp. Def debuff sync buff
silver dirge
I gave you a preset for Burgh and Brendan's grid, and specifically told you to take Team Sharp Entry on Brendan lol
verbal karma
I gave you a preset for Burgh and Brendan's grid, and specifically told you to t...
I somehow missed it
swift swan
Guys if ontype fails offtype with a much better striker is an option <:SerenaSip...
they hate offtyping
low linden
they hate offtyping
That doesn't make sense if it still gives a clear
silver dirge
has Solar Flare and...uh...that one Sp. Def debuff sync buff
Don't take OAR like I said before, you don't need it when Brendan's there
keen jasper
As I said, Team Sharp Entry is the most crucial node of SS Brendan
steel kelp
They’re just like that
grand steppe
Grimsley’s only move that can crit is Night Slash which is ST. So… something your saying isn’t adding up.
swift swan
TSE1 is what makes 3/5 SS Brendan so desirable
verbal karma
again, I have TSE1 equipped on SS Brendan now
I am literally trying the team again as we speak
silver dirge
Change your Burgh grid first
keen jasper
Yeah
silver dirge
This is the one I sent before
keen jasper
Ah ok
silver dirge
This is my go-to team cos I can pick up all the good nodes on Burgh when Brendan's there
silver dirge
It will if you play it correctly
verbal karma
fuck, Luster Purge missed 😦
silver dirge
One Luster Purge missing should still clear you the stage by a margin, but if not just try again
verbal karma
...what about two Luster Purges missing?
silver dirge
Same case
verbal karma
just found out: not enough
verbal karma
and now SS Brendan dies before I can even do the second sync 😦
all because of that stupid Play Rough
swift swan
just bad RNG
verbal karma
I have bad RNG seemingly 90% of the time
silver dirge
Indeed.
keen jasper
Hmmmm, is it unnatural that my Burgh's sync did 38k to Grimsley with -6 Sp. Def. with Smarty-Pants and sun?
grand steppe
So many paralysis 
swift swan
Hmmmm, is it unnatural that my Burgh's sync did 38k to Grimsley with -6 Sp. Def....
sounds reasonable
silver dirge
Grimsley do be annoying like that
grand steppe
38k? Is that no strength?
keen jasper
Yes, max HP
I know that it's crit, otherwise with the screen, it will dela significantly lesser damage
verbal karma
why must the left side know Play Rough?!
silver dirge
Yes, max HP
🤝 max HP params for the win
grand steppe
I’d be inclined if my Burgh was ex
keen jasper
And yeah, my Burgh is EX-ed too
silver dirge
Yeah that's very fair, I just prefer max HP because I like to see as big numbers as possible from the pair, even when I'm running Bruno or something on fighting weak
verbal karma
finally, R3 is done 
now R4 should be comparatively easy: just pair Naomi with a sandstormer and a fitting support
hmm...probably a crit buffer...but it needs to be one with Adrenaline...
...yeah, I think I'm gonna go SS Blue
steel kelp
Why adrenaline specifically
silver dirge
...yeah, I think I'm gonna go SS Blue
Make sure you pick up Team Grand Entry 1
silver dirge
digital sleet
silver dirge
Okay so just to recap a lil bit, for CS you're often going to want to build some on-type teams, but since you'll tackle hard mode first it's not too important atm
digital sleet
okay
silver dirge
For now your focus is more to get the type medal filled in. You need to use all 18 types over 2 weeks, and then you'll unlock master mode
silver dirge
I don't actually remember 
lemi check
swift swan
In the battle screen, there should be a progress button showing which types you've done
digital sleet
ah
swift swan
And which types can be added to your progress
silver dirge
Okay so we had
Akari + Kukui + Sonia
Red + Rosa + Blaine
Zerena + Skyla + Sabrina
digital sleet
Sabrina
silver dirge
Okay the teams are good, we may just need to move some things around, because for example Sabrina has a pretty valuable kit that someone else will benefit more from
Zerena is very self sufficient
digital sleet
who should we add
silver dirge
Also I was going to mention before, don't level up your pairs past 120/125, it's going to be pretty exhaustive on your resources for now
digital sleet
ah okay
silver dirge
Have you done all the legendary adventures by the way? There are some really good pairs there you should pickup as a priority, they'll help you through pretty much everything
silver dirge
Okay that's good, I'd suggest getting the others done too as soon as you can
swift swan
Giovanni will be your free ticket for psychic and ghost stages
silver dirge
Alright for another team you can do Blue/Pidgeot + MC Torchic + <Random Filler Type>. And once you pickup Giovanni he can clear the ghost stage easily with a special support (e.g. Liza) and a filler type again
I believe that's 5 teams for now, try em out, pick up the Leg Adventure Pairs and see how you fair. If you get stuck anywhere can always just shoot a message here and someone will be around to help out
wide adder
Does Bertha work for a third with Naomi and courtney or is ingo basically the only third that really does the work on that team? Asking for future weeks since already cleared this week
silver dirge
Naomi and Bertha with a special support should work just fine
formal vigil
idk how bertha naiomi courney manges guage
wide adder
Naomi and Bertha with a special support should work just fine
No room for a special support if I want to use zone
silver dirge
Oh my bad I didn't even read that properly
Missed courtney completely
Err in that case, no I do not think the 3 will synergise together
Guages yeah ^ sound like a nightmare, setup sounds painful
formal vigil
so honestly imo proably just use ingo for a third that team
wide adder
So I basically need to stick to ingo on that team probably
silver dirge
Yeah, ingo's kinda perfect there
A lot of the time you gotta commit to Naomi or Courtney, both don't work
wide adder
So the fact I have ingo is kinda lucky due to that
wide adder
Basically a unit for type medal purposes even if it doesn’t synergize much
silver dirge
Just a random pair you throw in there to get an unused type on the medal
It's best if it's from a type you don't have a lot of pairs of. E.g. bug, normal maybe
wide adder
Usually want it to be 1gauge move if possible, to help make it not stress the gauge while still counting down for sync
For example I think hapu has mudslap for a 1mg ground syncpair?
digital sleet
Okay thanks
silver dirge
She does yes
digital sleet
Ok so recap rq
Akari + Kukui + Sonia
Red + Rosa + Blaine
Zerena + Skyla + Sabrina
Giovanni + Liza + Filler Type
Blue + MC Torchic + Filler Type
What should I use for each elite Four or champion?
silver dirge
Dark, Rock, Electric, Fire, Grass, Dragon, Flying, Psychic, Filler 1, Filler 2. That's 10 types for 1 week, pretty ideal!
digital sleet
yayaya
digital sleet
What should I use for each elite Four or champion?
hereherehere
silver dirge
Err, throw your strongest team at Round 2 (half sync). Would prolli be either the Akari or Zerena team. Doesn't really matter who it's against
Who you vs isn't really important tbh, especially not in hard mode
silver dirge
On the stages screen, below the 4, do you see where it says "Round 1"?
Click on the lil info thingy and it'll show you all the round parameters
digital sleet
Wait
silver dirge
The pins here also have them. Round 2 is half sync, which means enemy syncs quicker than usual
digital sleet
There are rounds.......😭
silver dirge
No no
digital sleet
I thought I just had to beat the thing
silver dirge
Yea that's it. E.g. the first stage you beat is Round 1
the second one you beat is round 2
digital sleet
Oh okay
silver dirge
total of 5
digital sleet
In the battle screen, there should be a progress button showing which types you'...
Also I am not quite getting this
silver dirge
Click on one of the stages
So you get to your team page
You'll see the medal types at the bottom
silver dirge
What's up?
digital sleet
Nothing nothing
A
I just lost horribly to the fighting dide
Dude
With the red team
swift swan
If you want, sure. But he uses thunder wave right before sync iirc, so if you presync it shouldn't be a huge issue
slim prawn
If you want, sure. But he uses thunder wave right before sync iirc, so if you pr...
Who to use then one can extend all protections
I am thinking about these conditions my first time in CSMM
nocturne pawn
there are example parameters in pins
swift swan
You can pick up both dmg reduction shields (the 50 pts one)
They get ignored by crits
nocturne pawn
if you’re going for minimal rewards you want 850 for each fight
swift swan
Who to use then one can extend all protections
Both Marley and Melony will protect all allies from the thunder wave
It will depend on your striker choice
rotund lagoon
Honestly, pick the damage dealer first.
nocturne pawn
yeah theres a reason why we say build around the damage dealer
also applies to csmm parameters
rotund lagoon
versed meteor
Mud shot missed twice, overheat at -1 accuracy hit twice, what?
old orchid
Thats rng for you
Even at -6 acc it still has a good chance to land attacks
Plus almost every middle opponent has mitigation to acc debuff anyway
versed meteor
Also finished mid and got crit by side on -4 sludge wave and +6 special defence
grand crater
finished cs!!
silver dirge
Does caitlin have something funky going on with her defense? I'm testing out a team and it seems to do so much more damage on Caitlin's stage. I've checked all their passives but can't figure it out for the life of me
Ah nevermind she has 0 defense debuff mitigation that'll do it
full mesa
finished cs!!
Now try MM
cedar fable
what pairs are good in stadium?
nocturne pawn
it depends on what you have
+tracker use this to fill out your roster and show it to us
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toxic cobalt
what pairs are good in stadium?
Almost all can have their time and place
lime raven
I know ss brendan doesnt make sense in that r5 against alder but the support didnt really matter much
keen jasper
I know ss brendan doesnt make sense in that r5 against alder but the support did...
I mean, SS Brendan buffs your Sp. Def., and Alder does special attacks so yeah
silver dirge
Are you aiming for the hard mode medal?
I don't see Cyrus, Hop, Sycamore on your roster. Have you done all the Legendary Adventures?
cedar fable
I don't see Cyrus, Hop, Sycamore on your roster. Have you done all the Legendary...
no, this save is quite new as my old one had some issues
cedar fable
Are you aiming for the hard mode medal?
yes
silver dirge
no, this save is quite new as my old one had some issues
Alright I'd highly recommend grabbing them as soon as possible and getting them upgraded, they're going to be very useful in CS.
cedar fable
upgrade to lv 130?
silver dirge
No, up to 120/125 maximum
Beyond that is going to be exhaustive on your resources as a new player & 120 is enough to clear most content
plush tangle
yes
silver dirge
Making some quick teams gimmi a sec
Team 1: NC Leaf, Filler Tank, Filler 3rd
Team 2: Bea, Sonia, Filler 3rd
Team 3: Giovanni, NC Blue, Filler 3rd
Team 4: NC Red, Filler Tank, Filler 3rd
Team 5: Lysandre, Sabrina, Filler 3rd
Wherever I've written Filler Tank or Filler 3rd, just put in anything that you've not filled in the medal yet. So the pairs I've mentioned will cover Fire, Fighting, Electric, Psychic, Ice, Flying. You've got 6 fillers which you can put in any types not mentioned
The teams aren't listed in order, any of em can go against any round, but you should go with NC Red or NC Leaf for round 2 since they'll do that easily
cedar fable
ok thanks
undone ether
no, this save is quite new as my old one had some issues
Issues?
cedar fable
I forgot to link it
wet gate
Can I ontype grimsley or na
silver dirge
Yep, Burgh can
wet gate
Ok
swift swan
sun setter for burgh's multipliers
i'd replace aaron with a more special-oriented support
wet gate
but aaron is bug
swift swan
support types don't matter
wet gate
then should i not use ss mina
swift swan
you need a support that has good synergy with your main damage dealer regardless of what type it is
swift swan
then should i not use ss mina
she provides fairy zone so it's fine
wet gate
i'd replace aaron with a more special-oriented support
special attack or defence?
swift swan
it's just that aaron does nothing to help burgh outside of crit
swift swan
special attack or defence?
special attack
wet gate
nc bede?
swift swan
he works, yup
wet gate
ok
silver dirge
Get a special defense debuffer in there to help set up Burgh's nuke quicker
Lucian works wonders
swift swan
i'd rather bring sun for burgh's multipliers tbh
silver dirge
oh right
wet gate
does blair work
wet gate
ok
silver dirge
It kinda becomes an NC Leaf clear but yeah that works great
swift swan
It kinda becomes an NC Leaf clear <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158> but yeah tha...
if you nerf her with physical dmg reduction and standard dmg reduction then she won't steal the spotlight 
swift swan
should i use sycamore for shauntai
it will have to depend on your damage dealer
wet gate
cynthia
silver dirge
Cynthia's pretty fast and Aaron has one guage spam, I think it should be fine
Oh yeah true
wet gate
but mina team uses a lot of gauge
swift swan
it should be fine since hilbert is already there to buff speed
wet gate
should i use a support with def down for caitlin
wet gate
yeah idk about that
silver dirge
I'd bring Fantina tbh
swift swan
just do shadow ball morty
wet gate
but its sp def up
swift swan
hm?
silver dirge
I don't think Caitlin has boosted spdef
swift swan
it doesn't
wet gate
on watch out for these!
swift swan
special damage reduction gets bypassed by crits
swift swan
on watch out for these!
it's that she raises her sp def stats after sync
which you also bypass with crits
wet gate
silver dirge
Oh that, yeah crit bypasses
wet gate
so it doesnt matter?
swift swan
Victor will take first sync, second sync can go to him again I suppose, unless you want Morty's AOE nuke
in which case, Morty has a very annoying sync multiplier, he wants an evasion support
wet gate
i have misty
silver dirge
morty only does +2 sp atk on himself though
wet gate
sycamore?
silver dirge
Oh you have NC Blue, saving him for another round I suppose?
wet gate
idk ig whatever round needs an op support
silver dirge
Oh you can use him with either Burgh or Morty, both would like his quick buffs
and for the other just slot in Classic Gio or NC Bede
wet gate
burgh for the synergy with leaf?
silver dirge
Hm?
silver dirge
Leaf does the Sun + Debuffing for Burgh, all he needs is a special attack buffer
Oh sure
wet gate
or is that overkill
silver dirge
I mean if you don't need him elsewhere, then why not
I see you've got SS Diantha for champ stage, so you don't need a special support there
wet gate
or would he be better for caitlin
silver dirge
And Cynthia team is done, Mina team has a support already. So you're free to use NC Blue/Bede wherever
Put NC Blue with morty
And NC Bede with Burgh
Since morty takes 2 turns to go +2
swift swan
ss diantha is a free win in general
silver dirge
swift swan
so basically, anything
wet gate
do i need quick cure or stuff like that
swift swan
no
wet gate
for the support
silver dirge
Na
swift swan
just be careful with hyper beam
silver dirge
You've got Sonia left over, can put her in
And uh, whatever for the 3rd pretty much
wet gate
is hyper beam physical or special
toxic cobalt
Special
wet gate
sycamore?
toxic cobalt
No, he has to s ync
wet gate
who am i supposed to sync with
swift swan
ss diantha, for the mega
toxic cobalt
No, you want mega
toxic cobalt
You can probalby use anyone, you have SS Diantha
wet gate
i have archer
swift swan
it really doesn't matter, you have ss diantha
toxic cobalt
Can you scnreenshot your finished teams?
wet gate
wet gate
is there anyone i need r1
swift swan
probably the cynthia team appreciates r1
wet gate
ok
swift swan
remember R3 and R4 prevent quadqueueing
wet gate
does damage reduction apply to the enemy too
swift swan
round parameter damage reduction will apply to both sides
silver dirge
It kinda only applies to them, since for you the crits bypass it
swift swan
but physical/special damage reduction you take for 50 points will only apply to the opponents
either way, these screens are bypassed by critical hits
wet gate
who should i use 3 and 4 then
toxic cobalt
doesn't matter they're identical
wet gate
ok
grizzled ridge
Willl this team work for master mode too ? For champion thinking something like diancie Steven and some tank
rotund lagoon
Willl this team work for master mode too ? For champion thinking something like...
Not sure why both Phoebe and Aaron are on that top team, Phoebe can be replaced.
Third team, I’d recommend more of an Sp Atk buffer and Silver focus on Overheat DPS instead. Grid him for that, too.
Cyrus team, NC Blue isn’t needed if Cyrus gets Critical Focus gridded and uses TM twice.
rotund lagoon
Willl this team work for master mode too ? For champion thinking something like...
Also for your rock team, the names are vague. I’d need more specifics.
grizzled ridge
Also for your rock team, the names are vague. I’d need more specifics.
SS dianthus SC steven
rotund lagoon
For SS Diantha, get an Atk/Crit buffer for faster setup
grizzled ridge
Not sure why both Phoebe and Aaron are on that top team, Phoebe can be replaced....
Ohh overheat is better ? Okay will try . Do I need to poison stall anything
rotund lagoon
No, I think your teams have potential.
grizzled ridge
Not sure why both Phoebe and Aaron are on that top team, Phoebe can be replaced....
Ig Roxanne can work instead ?
rotund lagoon
You can stop pinging me please.
grizzled ridge
Ahh alright
rotund lagoon
Roxanne for your Silver team? Sure, not a bad idea.
Just make sure you use Silver's TM when Sun is up
Or you could do NC Blue for that team instead?
Roxanne would be fine with Cyrus if you do NC Blue for Silver.
grizzled ridge
Roxanne for the phoebe one replacing Aaron then something like Cheryl for silver team or Cyrus
grizzled ridge
Yup I can use NC blue too I am just not sure if I will have enough power to do R4 , R3 should not be too bad , R2 I will see
grizzled ridge
And what's your Ground roster like?
I just have free ones Bertha seismitoad Naomi hapu
Oops
Accidentally pinged
rotund lagoon
Wait why not use Naomi???
She's a great Ground striker.
But do you have 3/5+ for her and is she gridded?
grizzled ridge
But do you have 3/5+ for her and is she gridded?
Yeahh
rotund lagoon
For Naomi, get a Sp Atk/Spd/Crit buffer and use Bertha for Sand. That will be your ground team. If Naomi is not gridded for Ramming Speed, I highly recommend you find that grid and use it.
grizzled ridge
Wait why not use Naomi???
I just copied by halloween extreme battle team with a random Aaron .
rotund lagoon
? What does that have to do with CS?
grizzled ridge
Anyways thx will try that
Just R2 and R4 will be interesting I will see how it goes
Ok they are too weak for 2500 lol
Interference immunity matters for Naomi ?
grizzled ridge
I will try with something a bit weaker ,standard damage reduction is for normal moves ?
distant moth
any recommendations for 2.5k?
distant moth
thanks
mellow linden
I will try with something a bit weaker ,standard damage reduction is for normal ...
Standard Damage Reduction 8 reduces all non-supereffective damage by 80%
light dune
For round 2 I thought of using a xerneas team with skyla + olympia or ghetis, but I don't do enough damage. Could I get help with coming up with other options?
I've cleared caitlin with mewtwo, ss blue, and elio, and I'm thinking of using Cynthia + Acerloa for Shauntal. ss red + nc leaf and nc red are probably strong enough to cover whatever two are left?
old orchid
is this master mode?
light dune
yes. I'm trying for ~1500 for each round
old orchid
Marshal has zero resistance to paralysis so paralysis is helpful there
can you try NC Blue, Sycamore and Hau?
the pins also have parameter sets for 1500, if you are not aware
for Ground i think Cynthia is fine, but at higher point she might struggle without a solid support
i dont see Naomi in your roster
light dune
I don't recognize Naomi, is she free?
old orchid
yes she was
you could get her with free 5* 5/5 and 20/20 during SC Rosa's event
which was happened around one month ago
light dune
I picked up the game again a little over 2 weeks ago
light dune
Ok, I'll try that out
old orchid
after thinking again, Valerie is better than Hau even only at 1/5 due to being ontype, and you are able to take Standard Damage Reduction parameter
which gives a lot of points
light dune
Valerie got one shot by the first sync move
old orchid
are the other 2 still alive?
light dune
yes
light dune
Ok, let me check my presets and try again. Thanks for helping me with this!
old orchid
light dune
yep, I had a sp def buff up, after unchecking that I was able to clear it!
grizzled ridge
What does strength buff ?
old orchid
all opponents' stats
fluid vessel
versed meteor
1/1 smog are you doing a 4k poison stall run?
fluid vessel
It is 2.5k because Ball Guy has the problem of having regular Poison instead of bad poison
tired sleet
No point not using the half mp param if your only pair is ball guy 
grand trout
Who can i pair with ariana for debuffs? I understand she can debuff many stuff but it's a slow process
tired sleet
What move level is she?
grand trout
Just 1/5
fluid vessel
No point not using the half mp param if your only pair is ball guy <:BallGuyROFL...
wicked pebble
Would like suggestions on who else to pick for the teams. Aside from the main offense (the center members, I picked Victorse for Anni!Lillie, Ingo for Nidovanni, and the butler bros for bug. The rest is to be replaced.
mellow linden
You can very easily make the necessary adjustments by taking a look at your damage-dealers’ kits and seeing what they need, tbh
fluid vessel
Other than Kukui on that team being so random those teams are more than enough lol
wicked pebble
Again, Kukui is one of thr ones to be replaced.
He was a remnant from last week.
...why is it that wheni specifically say some pairs are getting replaced, they assume they're just part of the team like I planned them to be there?
tired sleet
Would like suggestions on who else to pick for the teams. Aside from the main o...
What move level is your diantha?
tired sleet
Both Kiawe and NC Blue on the same team seems a little redundant
You could bring someone that debuffs SpAtk so that it isn’t all up to NC Blue to debuff SpAtk. (If he isn’t 3/5, even better)
tired sleet
That’d work. You could also move Lodge Dawn to that team, and put another SpDef buffer against Shauntal (she’s immune to SpAtk drops)
wicked pebble
I'm using her for speed and gauge management.
I like having speed boosters, they make gauge management easier, especially when just working with 4 bars.
mellow linden
Keep in mind that Ingo gives Free Move effect from Trainer Move, so gauge management is less reliant on Speed buffs than you’d think
But it doesn’t matter much
wicked pebble
Only in sandstorm and only while you have uses, to be fair.
tired sleet
If you’re using SS Gio, the stage won’t survive long enough for that to matter
swift swan
updated
toxic cobalt
Who is counting the number of half sync weeks
silver dirge
Bruh
bright furnace
half sync move is uhh SS Dawn 3/5's time to shine... 
keen jasper
Who is counting the number of half sync weeks <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
Because this CS is too ez
fluid vessel
Who is counting the number of half sync weeks <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
GOOD
I didn't have many free time last week to exploit the Half Sync parameter so I better do it this week
verbal karma
Why must every Unova week have at least ONE Half Sync Countdown round Parameter?
fluid vessel
because Half Sync is goated
verbal karma
No, it fucking isn't
fluid vessel
No because it is incredibly easy to exploit in the players favor
fluid vessel
every modern nuke just destroys any CS stage under half sync parameter
verbal karma
What if someone doesn't have modern nukes, huh?
fluid vessel
you can just play defensively, sycamore is right there
verbal karma
Or what if someone tries to on-type?
verbal karma
you can just play defensively, sycamore is right there
But that wouldn't be pre-sync anymore
That would be post-sync, and post-sync almost never works for me
silver dirge
You just need to adjust parameters, post sync is very doable
fluid vessel
I mean, is Unova, defensive playstyles are fairly easy in this CS
because there is not a big gimmick in any stages like in Hoenn/Sinnoh/Kalos
silver dirge
I've seen your roster before and you've got plenty of pre-sync options too, regardless of half sync or not. It's not a hurdle in Unova at all, you may be able to make an argument for the harder 3
silver dirge
ya they also got a lot of bulk so you kinda get punished for post sync params
fluid vessel
looking at you fire weak glacia
versed meteor
My first csmm solo boys
noble plaza
Anyone i should avoid/save for r4 this week
silver dirge
My first csmm solo boys
very nice
versed meteor
Didn't record but used b move mid on their 3rd turn really shuts them down
noble plaza
My first csmm solo boys
Nice!
silver dirge
yooo we've got poison weak I've been waiting to try out Lodge Marnie
fluid vessel
can you record it? like...I would but I don't have the candies yet
when I get them I will farm the CRed solos
versed meteor
Its not 1/5
fluid vessel
what move level is you CRed
versed meteor
3/5
fluid vessel
exactly, I would do it myself but mine is 1/5
that's why I asked to you if you could record it
unborn wedge
Fighting weak stages. Easy stuff. 
unborn wedge
If it uses Breaking Swipe, it can miss the OHKO.
verbal karma
Anyway, who's the least dangerous for this week's half sync param?
silver dirge
Which stage you do doesn't matter, it's what team you use. Just throw your strongest team at the half sync param
fluid vessel
or just do poison stall for half sync parameter because there is a poison weak stage
silver dirge
they don't like poison stall or even off-typing 
manic kiln
yeah like this happened every single week, your team is more important than the parameter, esp for that round
unborn wedge
Dark is the easiest
silver dirge
Same question every week fr
fluid vessel
paper summit
some people really forget the Hall of Fame is a thing
fluid vessel
fr sometimes is just better to offtype with your brokest units than ontyping
unborn wedge
Support Sync, Akari set Dark Zone, B Fiery Wrath. Gone. And if not, it shouldn't take much longer
silver dirge
Lol Marnie with Akari one shots off-type if you play it right, on-type is laughable
unborn wedge
Yeah
versed meteor
that's why I asked to you if you could record it
Well maybe later because i can't reset it yet, but with 1/5 might struggle on gauge because i selected the recharging strike node on his grid
paper summit
Marnie alone does it, struggling with that kind of team is... well, you know
manic kiln
most people have strong fire team too so consider that for half sync round
silver dirge
If you've got a PB Silver he can clear fire ease pease
fluid vessel
Well maybe later because i can't reset it yet, but with 1/5 might struggle on ga...
I will appreciate it 
Marnie can solo with half sync just saying
paper summit
also, what's with DeNA again going with half sync param? some variety is nice 
versed meteor
Does marshal have sentry entry?
unborn wedge
I used SS Morty, Hilda (Emboar) and Champion Leaf. Because why not.
silver dirge
also, what's with DeNA again going with half sync param? some variety is nice <:...
Where is my beloved perm field
fluid vessel
please no more perm field for now I don't want to farm 10+ solos again
unborn wedge
I put random crap on the teams until something works.
fluid vessel
with that I mean 10+ solos where the only strat is to mindlessly tap the exact same button for 5+ minutes
at least with half sync you get more solos with less time investment
paper summit
I put random crap on the teams until something works. <:WEEZing:7320443685542298...
<Insert Moon Knight random bs meme here>
silver dirge
paper summit
yes, that one, top tier
silver dirge
truly
paper summit
ngl, with how good modern units are, as long as there is a little bit of common sense when putting a team together, any random one just works tbh 
silver dirge
pretty much yea, all you need is a basic idea of like triple queuing
versed meteor
Recommends special moves doesn't have sentry entry, what
silver dirge
Caitlin?
main crow
It has terrify and breaking swipe
silver dirge
She's got a little higher spDef than usual
fluid vessel
Caitlin has sentry entry at home
silver dirge
Oh
fluid vessel
I am pretty sure
silver dirge
Yeah, that's pretty accurate
main crow
But that doesn't matter when any physical fighting pair still sweeps it clean
formal vigil
Catlin does have higher special defence
fluid vessel
yeah I can notice Caitlin's higher sp def when B Thunderbolt is not a OHKO
main crow
Who was that CIris fight made for? SC Diantha?
silver dirge
1.5x SpDef by the looks of it for Caitlin
formal vigil
Solgaleo?
formal vigil
Plus solgaleo has impervious anyways
silver dirge
Ah true
versed meteor
Recommends special moves doesn't have sentry entry, what
Its Marshal
versed meteor
Not something that oleana and hobo girl cant shred
trail smelt
Crushed the week. Even did Grimsley and Iris half sync before they can sync to further meme on them LMAO
Ready for next week, ESPECIALLY WRoxanne
fluid vessel
Grimsley has more HP than usual, that's interesting
fluid vessel
blessed DeNA
trail smelt
I remember having trouble clearing Grimsley with base Hilda lol
Nowadays GloriAlt 2 and Nc Leaf just burnt him to a crisp
fluid vessel
Glorialt2 and CLeaf cheats so hard on any stage
verbal karma
please no more perm field for now I don't want to farm 10+ solos *again*
but Perm field is great
fluid vessel
with that I mean 10+ solos where the only strat is to mindlessly tap the exact s...
it is but I don't want to do this!
verbal karma
It allows me to go with field strats without having to worry about the fields ever running out
trail smelt
Perma field my beloved
verbal karma
Perma field my beloved
Based perma field enjoyer
silver dirge
Just give me a pair with a passive that infinitely extends any field
devout sluice
Permanent zone thanks to permanent field 
versed meteor
Perma field my beloved
Based
verbal karma
or just do poison stall for half sync parameter because there is a poison weak s...
That means I actually CAN follow this advice!
Thanks!
Hmm...Hala or SS Silver for ice-weak Shauntal?
keen jasper
Hmm...Hala or SS Silver for ice-weak Shauntal?
Silver is definitely much more stronger
verbal karma
Even when Silver is at 1/5 and Hala is at 3/5?
keen jasper
Even when Silver is at 1/5 and Hala is at 3/5?
Oh by a mile
verbal karma
Hmm...I assume Silver wants an Atk buffer?
verbal karma
Ah, I see
verbal karma
Why can't I win R3 with this team?!
manic kiln
i swear you just slap the most random units together, both support provides sp atk, and speed, gauge from rosa, a waste of a slot
main crow
Just bring in an extra crit provider so karen isn't stuck setting that up for 2 turns
verbal karma
i swear you just slap the most random units together, both support provides sp a...
Two Sp. Atk buffers is on purpose, actually
Caitlin debuffs Sp. Atk by -2
wet gate
can i use nc red on shauntal?
keen jasper
can i use nc red on shauntal?
Why wouldn't you?
main crow
Yes he obliderates
keen jasper
Doesn't matter
main crow
Does it matter?
old orchid
can i use nc red on shauntal?
i would plan dmg dealers for other stages first, because NC Red offtype pretty well
wet gate
should i use n or red or both
main crow
Red sweeps it before she can do anything about it
keen jasper
Even 1/5 Red can solo Shauntal
old orchid
and yeah spdef down doesnt matter
old orchid
should i use n or red or both
SS N? dont use them together
verbal karma
Anyway, even with Sp. Atk and Crit fully buffed on Karen and even with Sp. Atk fully debuffed on Caitlin and even with a EX support sync buff, Karen's sync is not enough to beat Caitlin pre-sync
wet gate
SS N? dont use them together
who do i use then
keen jasper
Hmmm it did
keen jasper
I'd use Red more
wet gate
ok
old orchid
you can save NC Red to offtype a stage you cant beat with ontype dmg dealer
thats why i recommended planning for each stage earlier
keen jasper
All of the stages this week are easy to on-type
old orchid
that depends on each roster
wet gate
i got master fairs for all except for fighting and poison
main crow
You can always poison stall or off type
old orchid
just a friendly reminder: dont ignore 5* and other types of limited units
wet gate
Who should I use for poison
old orchid
that team is already great
wet gate
that was optimize lol
silver dirge
i swear you just slap the most random units together, both support provides sp a...
This made me laugh out loud lmao
old orchid
dont touch the optimize button, learn to build teams by yourself
wet gate
yeah thats why im asking
silver dirge
Optimize will more often than not give you the worst possible combinations, it just goes based off of stats I think
silver dirge
Yes, but that doesn't mean he's bad. There are some great lower rarity pairs
main crow
3* and 4* shouldn't be slept on
old orchid
rarity doesnt matter in this game
silver dirge
just a friendly reminder: dont ignore 5* and other types of limited units
Wait that's the wrong thing
Anyway
wet gate
do i need someone to poison or is poison fang enough
silver dirge
Two Sp. Atk buffers is on purpose, actually
It doesn't even make a huge difference here, but if you're really struggling, switch to a physical unit. Caitlin's got boosted spDef
verbal karma
I don't have any good physical Dark-type units
silver dirge
Masked Royale? Sydney?
keen jasper
Champion Serena
silver dirge
but im just wondering if thats enough
Your team's got Drasna + Koga + NC Bede, Drasna's got toxic for guaranteed poison
wet gate
ok
silver dirge
50% on Koga doesn't matter
formal vigil
Two Sp. Atk buffers is on purpose, actually
Still is a waste since Karen buffs her Own spak anyways
verbal karma
Masked Royale? Sydney?
I wouldn't call Masked Royale "good" tbh
silver dirge
That's a you problem tbh, because he's more than enough to clear Unova Dark weak
main crow
Sounds like you don't know how to play him if I'm being real
formal vigil
He's enough to clear any dark weak
keen jasper
I wouldn't call Masked Royale "good" tbh
That's a skill issue TBH
main crow
MR just need someone to buff crit and atk (Hop is free) and just start spamming brutal swing
silver dirge
old orchid
main crow
MR is my go to dark DPS/nuke before I have Karen and even then I still use him a lot
silver dirge
Me when I don't have Akari so I therefore just have no viable physical dark options
verbal karma
MR just need someone to buff crit and atk (Hop is free) and just start spamming ...
I...already used Hop elsewhere
keen jasper
Sonia?
silver dirge
Aaron? Shauna?
main crow
Sonia, Hilbert, Aaron
verbal karma
Sonia sadly prevents quadqueing
formal vigil
You can use sonia hilbert shauna
main crow
Physical supports are plentiful
verbal karma
Aaron has also already been used
silver dirge
Sonia sadly prevents quadqueing
So you're just never going to use Sonia? 
Either skill her with Adr1 or clear it before they sync, which is very doable
verbal karma
So you're just never going to use Sonia? <:PetrelWTF:996248668812357662> Either ...
But I can't give her Adrenaline without removing Vigilance
and she needs both
main crow
She's tanky enough without vig
old orchid
silver dirge
She doesn't need vigilance
verbal karma
She's tanky enough without vig
She really isn't
Trust me, I tried
silver dirge
And you could simply just reset so she's not hit before sync? When they use TM?
I also have Adr1 Sonia, never had a problem
main crow
verbal karma
...yeah, I think I will try Sydney instead...what supports does he want?
keen jasper
He's self-sufficient
Only needs a defensive buffer, the other slot is just a filler whether you want extra DPS or support for him
Damn, I just YOLO-ed the shit out of Iris
4k pts. too
distant moth
Last week I managed to only get 10k, because Grimsley and Marshall were a pain for me >_<
But this time easy 12.5k 
main crow
So glad I can duo with my favorite starters 
keen jasper
So glad I can duo with my favorite starters <:IncineroarThumbsUp:875206098561409...
Now do 3k pts.