Champion Stadium

[lime raven]

Alrighty lets do special cs

[pseudo drum]

?

O

[lime raven]

The hop one

[pseudo drum]

Best of luck 👍🏻

[lime raven]

welp

I dont have enough psychic types for this

[pseudo drum]

Go off type

[lime raven]

Sst red 3/5?

[verbal karma]

The team for R2 Bruno was Rachel/Lear/Sawyer

The idea was that before Lear would do his second sync, he would do hid second Snatch while Sawyer would flinch Bruno right after, just to ensure Bruno can't buff himself before Lear syncs

Sadly, with that plan successful, Lear's second sync still hits like a wet paper even when it crits

[silver dirge]

You can't flinch a buffing move

So it would go through anyway

[manic kiln]

You still won’t presync with flinch anyway

[verbal karma]

I wasn't flinching a buffing move

Bruno just has Precision Pals 9

I was trying to prevent THAT from proccing

Anyway, I was forced to do R2 Bruno with a Poison Stall team instead

[silver dirge]

2 Syncs, plus the DPS in all that time should be more than enough to take out Bruno. I'm not sure what's going on, sounds like it might be a gameplay issue

[verbal karma]

...and now, it's R3 Marshal that is giving me trouble, all because EleSSa's TM MOR refuses to proc

[verbal karma]

Lear is only 1/5

...and is also only at Level 125

[verbal karma]

Should also mention that the DPS was almost non-existent at this point

[silver dirge]

1/5 should be fine, this just sounds like a parameter issue. Bruno is not very bulky nor has high defences

[silver dirge]

This should also be fine

[verbal karma]

I just used basic pre-sync parameters

I don't see what's so wrong with them

[silver dirge]

And you have the right type of reduction on?

[verbal karma]

Yeah, I had Phys Dmg Red on

[silver dirge]

Lear shaves off a whole sync cycle turn too, twice if you do it right

Should absolutely obliterate Bruno by the time you get to sync 2, if not earlier

You could try replacing Rachel with someone who actually provides some team utility, like spDef debuffing or terrain, and/or running an EX support, but if the DPS is non-existent like you said then it can only either be a gameplay or parameter issue

[dark osprey]

true. at least the sync should do some crazy damage. hopefully using snatch or other means to remove opponent buffs before the sync

[verbal karma]

Finally done with the stupid Hop CS

[pseudo drum]

RIP Diantha&Gardevoir

O and Siebold will cook a starfish and no desert tonight..

Finally,

12.5k stadium accomplished

Mission Obliterated

Falkner couldn't survive so I went all out with off type

[undone ether]

uhhhh

[pseudo drum]

It was quite entertaining

[undone ether]

is Malva a Physical Spammer or is it Wikstrom?

[pseudo drum]

Wilkstorm

Malva loves special moves

And that damn sun ofcourse

[undone ether]

Got it

[pseudo drum]

Set up rain and wreck havoc

[keen jasper]

Why do you think Malva has Dauntless?

[pseudo drum]

If its wilkstorm you're worried abt get a def debuffer

[pseudo drum]

?

O yea

I get it

I totally forgot

😅

[pseudo drum]

Anyways, try this if you can

[keen jasper]

She preemptively sets up sun, so changing the weather is a must anyways

[pseudo drum]

Pika-Presents but its Cynthia...

[keen jasper]

Wrong place

[silver dirge]

Interesting teams as always

[verbal karma]

Oh yeah, back to Kalos CS

R2 Drasna, correct?

[undone ether]

R1 Siebold
R2 Drasna

for me

R3 Wikstrom + R4 Malva ❤️

[wide adder]

was gonna do some late night cs but noticed the pin isnt updated for the week for quick-look at whats needed so...ima just sleep and check in the afternoon

[verbal karma]

Thank you

Also, I am sad DeNa never gave Drasna special voice lines and a special Vs. Portrait for when you pick her for specifically R2 of CS

[grand trout]

why would they do that

[verbal karma]

Because Drasna hates being second in anything

[grand trout]

???

that's oddly specific

anyway i did drasna for r4

[verbal karma]

It is canon, tho

[grand trout]

doesnt matter, still oddly specific

[verbal karma]

It's called "Fan Service"

[grand trout]

from their end they see it as increased costs

[old orchid]

please refrain from talking offtopic here

[verbal karma]

What kind of Gauge support, Gauge accel or Gauge refill?

[silver dirge]

Either is fine I prefer accel cos I don't have to worry about mistiming my refill

[left storm]

Not bad

#KogaEX represent

[grand trout]

who are the other two

[lime raven]

time to try to do hop cs

[pseudo drum]

You done with the hop cs e4?

If so then brace yourself for Hop's Thunderous Kick

He uses it right before his sync

You would want a pair with unbending for they also love to lower your defense

[calm marsh]

This is so close

[old orchid]

May i ask is this hard or master mode?

[full mesa]

Ι love LDawn. She waits until you need her. Then bam. Makes everything easy.

[keen jasper]

Oh well then, just like with Wikstrom last week, I'm not gonna do 4k pts. on Siebold because my bug roster sucks hard besides SC Emmet, and Siebold has SE x2

Wow, I can't believe I clapped Siebold at 3.5k pts. easily even pre-syncing him, but I can't do 4k against him

[mellow linden]

How many weeks in a row have we had a half-Sync round in CS now?

[keen jasper]

2?

[left storm]

Firis 1/5 and bp ex Jenine

Blind spot + 2 sync nodes + mg9

If firis was 3/5 I could've done more but it's good enough

[mellow linden]

I guess it feels like more because of Psychic weak CS

[keen jasper]

So it turns out I can actually 4k Siebold

[noble plaza]

I'm doing R4 bruno and I'm able to beat the mid but not the sides afterwards, and the lack of 3 times crit rate for Bianca is annoying

NC Blue would work so well here but I'm already saving him for r5

[silver dirge]

Do you have no other crit buffers?

[keen jasper]

By the random grace of RNG, Megahorn missed my SS May and that's GG, 4k Wikstrom done

[noble plaza]

No EX support that also boosts special attack besides NC Blue

[long thicket]

I kinda dislike how good Sygna Morty is.

[keen jasper]

Who do you want to make as your main DPS?

[long thicket]

But eh, Eusine got his justice in the end, so I'm fine with that sync pair being a thing.

[keen jasper]

He is one of the best supports in this game, like top 3 best

[noble plaza]

Lodge N but Bianca hits pretty hard when she crits

[long thicket]

I mainly needed a sun setter for support, and Acerola was another option too.

[noble plaza]

I also already used SS Blue

[long thicket]

But yeah, I didn't like that this pair was a thing at first.

But it's past.

[noble plaza]

Actually I have enough BP Tickets for BP Barry. Maybe he'll work?

[old orchid]

his crit buffing is slow

[noble plaza]

Wait but that leads to the issue of him not being ex'd

[old orchid]

you dont have Sabrina or SS Elesa?

[noble plaza]

I have both

[old orchid]

even Torchic works great

[noble plaza]

Sabrina is frail

[old orchid]

she tanks long enough in that comp

[noble plaza]

Really?

[old orchid]

well Flint mainly uses special + N has sleep

[noble plaza]

Flint?

I'm against Bruno

[old orchid]

oh my bad but she should live long enough

[civic trellis]

did u EX Rosa?

[noble plaza]

Rosa and Serperior? Yeah she's EX'd

[civic trellis]

idk if she has crit buffs tho

[old orchid]

she doesnt have crit sadly

[noble plaza]

Yeah

My Sabrina isn't EX'd

[old orchid]

that doesnt matter much anyway, Bianca's Stored Power is insane

[noble plaza]

This is my Sabrina grid

Should I grid on the ropes?

And will Sabrina's tm be used on bianca or N?

[old orchid]

do you plan to sync with her?

[noble plaza]

Who, Sabrina?

[old orchid]

i think one on Bianca and one on N, if it procs MPR save when she is low on health

[old orchid]

yeah

remove one MGR and see if you can pick On the Ropes

[noble plaza]

I could. I assumed it wouldn't be a good idea because she isn't EX'd but I'm not against it

[old orchid]

that team's gauge should be alright without MGR tiles

[dark osprey]

Sabrina and Bianca should be a good enough combo for Bruno

Can tank with Bianca and reflects

If needed can get another defense buffer I guess

[nocturne pawn]

eh why would you tank with her here

[noble plaza]

Does reflect count as a field effect?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[dark osprey]

If using N as well then you won't take many hits either ways

[nocturne pawn]

if bianca is the main damage dealer she shouldnt be tanking

[dark osprey]

Not for the 150 pts on CS though

[noble plaza]

So I don't really need to grid mp refresh for reflect, right?

150 points?

[nocturne pawn]

not really

[dark osprey]

She has better physical bulk than Sabrina, buffs her own defenses and Sabrinas heal plus sp atk buffs both become useful

[old orchid]

Bianca is a legit tank

with perma field you can do terrain -> TM -> TM

and there is N with sleep too

[noble plaza]

Ohhh

[dark osprey]

Sleep does work with Bruno. Flint counters that also partially

[long thicket]

Malva required saving Eusine's TM, which is a little counter-intuitive to me.

[dark osprey]

You could pull through with the burn for 1-2 moves I guess

[long thicket]

Didn't work out, but that's okay.

[noble plaza]

WOOO USING SABRINA WORKED

Using Bianca as a tank was actually a really good idea

Thanks y'all!

So now that I'm against Hop I want to use NC Blue and Giovanni but I don't know who the last one should be

[old orchid]

Bede if you already used Lucian

[noble plaza]

I was thinking bede too

[old orchid]

you should can use Max Mindstorm before Giovanni's sync

[dark osprey]

Double nuke be nice

[keen jasper]

Boy, LySSandre's B Move nuke just utterly ended his subordinate's career

[peak stirrup]

Escavalier with max attack, 10 PMUN, SEUp, a support EX buff, and Bug Zone STILL wasn’t enough to one shot Starmie.
Bulk a little crazy.

[old orchid]

SIebold has Sentry Entry x2

[keen jasper]

Yeah, that

Somehow, I was able to 4k Siebold with Burgh as my main nuker and with 1/5 Alder

[peak stirrup]

Next you’re going to say Wikstrom has Wise Entry x2

[keen jasper]

He doesn't

[old orchid]

he doesnt but he will drop your spatk a lot

[keen jasper]

Tho Wikstrom gets burnt alive by Silver

[nocturne pawn]

or hilda

[keen jasper]

And Emma + Looker just completely obliterates Diantha even in 4k pts.

And so my 20k pts. run is done

[twilit kiln]

what do u suggest for siebold? post sync or pre sync? and what kind of pokemons should i bring

cuz im looking into clearing him with round 2

[peak stirrup]

Does Diantha resist physical?

[twilit kiln]

which diantha

oh

in cs?

[peak stirrup]

Yeah

GioKing tickles her

[twilit kiln]

do you have physical param

or special param

and did u choose the right round for it?

[silver dirge]

She does not resist physical

[twilit kiln]

if u chose round 3, it will

[silver dirge]

Diantha is the champion

[keen jasper]

She has Healthy Advantage

[old orchid]

That depends on your team, so plan one first

[keen jasper]

No she doesn't LMFAO

[silver dirge]

I don't think she has Healthy Advantage

[twilit kiln]

ik but round 3 gives field of effect that resist physical

[twilit kiln]

i was thinking of using lusamine

[keen jasper]

Wut?

[silver dirge]

Oh you mean stage parameter. Right, that's not the same as Sentry Entry btw

[twilit kiln]

but lusamine gets melt on the first aoe

[keen jasper]

I mean, have you looked at her defensive stats?

[silver dirge]

Lusamine just has really bad defenses

[keen jasper]

Better off using Burgh

[silver dirge]

Offensive params -> Lusamine dead

[twilit kiln]

if i happen to use burgh, what team should i make around him?

[silver dirge]

You wanna set up his multipliers. Someone to debuff defense and you need sun

[twilit kiln]

okie

i only have him 2/5 tho

will that matter

[keen jasper]

I totally didn't use SS Morty with Burgh and totally forgot about Wikstrom

[silver dirge]

Oh then you don't need to worry about either cos everything I mentioned is locked behind 3/5 lol

[twilit kiln]

rip

[silver dirge]

SpDef debuffs always help though

[twilit kiln]

i think i need off type it the

[keen jasper]

That can work

[silver dirge]

Might be easier, but you can give it a try first if you want

[twilit kiln]

i need to invest in burgh if i do that

and i has no mats

[silver dirge]

No point investing when you don't have access to any important tiles

Except maybe SDE3

I'd say just offtype it then

[sick inlet]

👀

[twilit kiln]

do u think ss ethan with 1/5 can work?

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmm

[twilit kiln]

maybe i pair it with xerneas?

[keen jasper]

I'd say use your best 3/5 special damage dealer

[twilit kiln]

mewtwo?

[silver dirge]

Is it powerboosted?

and EX'd

[twilit kiln]

no

whats power boosted

its not ex

[silver dirge]

powerboosted is access to Mega for him

via the villain event

[keen jasper]

Powerboost unlocks the unit's EX

[twilit kiln]

no

its not

[silver dirge]

I think they go hand in hand though, you can't have one without the other

[keen jasper]

2nd villain event gives extra grid nodes

[silver dirge]

Unless you just didn't EX him for whatever reason

[twilit kiln]

i think i missed the villain event

i started a week ago

[silver dirge]

Not for Gio, his only powerboost is the Mega

[twilit kiln]

maybe i just cheese with lucian

[keen jasper]

You can

Lucian's nuke is strong, but you need an extra DPS to compensate for it

[twilit kiln]

maybe i bring gengar with it

[keen jasper]

Agatha?

[twilit kiln]

allister

but allister needs sync

which is awkward

[silver dirge]

Why does allister need sync?

[twilit kiln]

does it need mega?

[silver dirge]

Wrong pair

[twilit kiln]

or is it the other gengar?

[toxic cobalt]

Course you can, they’re different rewards

[twilit kiln]

oh ok

[silver dirge]

Allister's Gengar can Dynamax

[twilit kiln]

so i just bring allister with i

[silver dirge]

Yeah my bad I realised shortly afterwards

[toxic cobalt]

Sometimes players join near the end so have to pick one, but anyway base Gio is still good enough

[keen jasper]

Agatha is the one with the Mega Gengar, Allister is the one with the G-Max Gengar

[toxic cobalt]

Is this CSMM or hard mode?

[silver dirge]

CSMM

[twilit kiln]

its csmm

i think hard mode was a breeze

i cleared the medal today but i just finished the other 4 types with articuno and zapdos

so im working on mm

hmm

idk

since its round 2

maybe lucian is da way

[toxic cobalt]

He will definitely help

[twilit kiln]

who pairs well with lucian?

like what kind of pokemon?

[toxic cobalt]

Any special attacker really

[twilit kiln]

ss elena?

for faster sync?

and she does special attack

and has spatk up

[toxic cobalt]

Oh you’re using Lucian as your main striker? That’s different

[twilit kiln]

yea i was gonna use him as a sync nuke

and use off type pre sync

params

[nocturne pawn]

he has 0 dps whatsoever

you need a second damage dealer with move dps

[toxic cobalt]

Unless your Lucian is 3/5 and fully gridded his is a big ask

[twilit kiln]

maybe i can try ss red

[keen jasper]

That's what I said

[twilit kiln]

its 2/5 tho

[toxic cobalt]

Better than Lucian

[twilit kiln]

oh

my hop gets 2 shotted

by hydro pum

i might have to use zapdos on this

none of my tanks can out stand more than 3 hits

[toxic cobalt]

What are your spdef tanks?

[twilit kiln]

i dont have much dbh

im thinking i should use xerneas but even xerneas gets one shot

or rather 2 shot

so i cant even use sync

[cinder summit]

Nessa & Drednaw

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 695
ATK: 319 | DEF: 210
SPA: 199 | SPD: 157
SPE: 201

Acquisition:

General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Galar)

Alternates:

Nessa (Holiday 2021) & Eiscue

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Rain Razor Shell / Sync Nuke (3/5)
‎　+ Cakewalk / Without Rain
‎　+ Full Sync Nuke
‎　+ Without Sync
Rain Jaw Lock / Sync Nuke (3/5)
‎　+ Cakewalk / Without Rain

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Weathered Warrior 3

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[silver dirge]

BP Morty can work, he buffs both defenses quickly and provides flinch. Also has first aid + master healer. Might be able to hold on for a bit if you flinch a few moves

[cinder summit]

Morty & Gastly

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[twilit kiln]

which morty

[silver dirge]

Morty & Mismagius

[twilit kiln]

its 2/5

[silver dirge]

You don't have sync orbs either do you?

[twilit kiln]

no

;

;

[toxic cobalt]

Can you filter knownmoves all spdefup

[twilit kiln]

i honestly wanna just make a new account and then play on it completely f2p to see how hard it is LOL

i have bertha

aaron

ss misty

melony

[long thicket]

Been a while since I used Alder, he was really good for round 4 Siebold.

[cinder summit]

Alder & Volcarona

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 718
ATK: 302 | DEF: 127
SPA: 370 | SPD: 127
SPE: 356

Acquisition:

Poké Fair

Alternates:

None

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Hyper Beam / Sync Nuke (3/5)
‎　+ Full Boost (4/5)
Full Hyper Beam (4/5)
‎　+ Struggle Bug BOGO (5/5)

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Adrenaline 1

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[twilit kiln]

i dont have him sadly

[long thicket]

Worst thing, he's 1/5.

And he got me further than other Bug Strikers.

In 2500 points, that is.

[open copper]

Hi can someone please help me with making team for all rounds except fire? (2,5k points)
These are my pairs, already used moltres hooh and charizard

I feel like bug is my biggest weakness, I only have lusamine and she does pathetic DMG imo

[silver dirge]

Do you have a rough idea of what you wanna run for each team? We can adjust from there. Important things to look out for are the fact that Siebold has Sentry Entry x2 (doubles base defenses) and what team you want to use for R4 (half sync)

[keen jasper]

You have to choose which E4 is the easiest for R4

[open copper]

That would probably be water, cus I have may maxed out

[keen jasper]

Yeah, I also did Malva on R4

[silver dirge]

That should work, her multiplier is just the accuracy one iirc?

[open copper]

Yes

[silver dirge]

Could do something like May + Mud Slap Unit + Special Support

[open copper]

What params? Cus I literally already tried this and would get always one shot before I could set up

So I think it'd be even harder for r4

[silver dirge]

Dang really, what team?

[open copper]

Mudsdale may and tried bunch of diff buffers

[silver dirge]

Also just confirming, May EX yeah?

[keen jasper]

Use Kris

[open copper]

5/5 ex it's in the IMG I sent

[keen jasper]

One of the strongest water units

[silver dirge]

Got it, I'm just gonna quickly check to see how reliably she takes out mid 1st sync

[keen jasper]

Who?

[silver dirge]

may

[keen jasper]

I think you should just brute force R4 Malva with Mega Kick Kris

Because I was able to easily do 4k pts. with SS Lysandre killing literally everyone with his B Move

[silver dirge]

If they already have May set up and invested in, it's prolli a better idea to try that first

[keen jasper]

Before Malva synced

[open copper]

I'll have to see if I'll have enough candies to get crit strike 2

[keen jasper]

And I had -3 sync CD from parameters

[valid ivy]

who of the current e4 has high phys attack

[silver dirge]

Okay it's a little tricky to get her max sync in, but if you do it'll one shot. But this is with hyper offensive params so there'll be a lot of RNG involved, strong moves from them will take your tank out

you might want to opt for a safer option

Your Silver isn't powerboosted I'm assuming?

If he is that would be a great option for half sync

[open copper]

How do I know if he is

[keen jasper]

I mean, half sync Kris still isn't a bad idea

[valid ivy]

also is ss kris cyrus strong enough to kill malva before half sync

ss kris exed

• may

[nocturne pawn]

yes it definitely should

[open copper]

I dont have her exed

[silver dirge]

Absolutely

[keen jasper]

Yes

[twilit kiln]

do u think siebold or drasana is better for r4?

[keen jasper]

Neither

I think Malva is the easiest

[twilit kiln]

i already did malva just rn

for r2

[keen jasper]

Or Wikstrom

[twilit kiln]

i did him r1

[silver dirge]

Wikstorm and Malva were probably the easiest ones to half sync

[valid ivy]

would an sc steven silver (powerboosted but not ex) sun nuke be enoough to take out the fire weak dude with sync buff more effective

[keen jasper]

I think he can?

[silver dirge]

If he's powerboosted then sure

[valid ivy]

alr ty

hes level 130

tho

[silver dirge]

That's fine

[valid ivy]

alr

[silver dirge]

You've got fire rebuff + defense debuffs + SEUN + sun + Silver's Nuke nodes. more than enough

[valid ivy]

wait who would tank tho

my only sunny day setters are anni raihan blaine and erika

and ill need the sun for the sync nuke

[toxic cobalt]

Probably SC Steven

[valid ivy]

isnt he as flimsy as paper tho

[toxic cobalt]

Not as flimsy as your other options !

[silver dirge]

His defenses are pretty decent

So is HP

[toxic cobalt]

You can always get lucky and have them use tms

[valid ivy]

hes level 35 and he has 678 hp and 178 💀 in both defenses

ok ill pray

[silver dirge]

I hope you mean 135

[valid ivy]

135

[silver dirge]

Yep makes sense

[toxic cobalt]

Level 35 tank go

[valid ivy]

level 130 135 130 team

i go this trust

[left storm]

There's a dude beating 2.5k with level 1s

So...

[silver dirge]

He also debuffs attack so that helps

[valid ivy]

wtf

[left storm]

You can definitely win with lvl 35

[valid ivy]

how

is it ss lyra

[left storm]

Theme skills, gear and broken units like 3/5 Oleana or SSilver

[valid ivy]

not even using ss lyra

wtf

[toxic cobalt]

You have SS Lyra? Should use her somewhere. Free win.

[left storm]

You can do ok damage with gears and theme skills

[toxic cobalt]

Oooh R5 SS Lyra

[left storm]

The dude had an Oleana + 2 eggmons

[valid ivy]

i have 1/5 ss lyra but its still a funny free win

[left storm]

Lvl1 clear

[valid ivy]

but im horrible at using her

[valid ivy]

im using r5 ss diantha to take advantage of both field and stat reduction

[silver dirge]

practice makes perfect

[valid ivy]

altohught honestly i dont need to since shes 3/5

also my sc steven just got one shot

gg

[toxic cobalt]

Too many things to do. I like using FCaitlin to have all her shields last forever.

[valid ivy]

i think i ptu too much attack

[toxic cobalt]

Just get lucky !

[valid ivy]

true

[silver dirge]

reset a little til they tm or use a really low power move

[toxic cobalt]

Or replace Steven for another tank I guess if you want. Silver shouldn’t need him.

[valid ivy]

no i got one shot on the second hut

or third

[valid ivy]

really?

i think high numbers are funny tho

[silver dirge]

wait how are you maxing out Steven's silver's offenses?

[toxic cobalt]

You’re not wrong

[silver dirge]

Not steven

Silver

[valid ivy]

double tm for silver then one sacred fire then my sync comes

in sun

[silver dirge]

Oh for some reason I thought you were running without sun, that's my bad

[valid ivy]

and rhen steven gives phys move up next twice and then super effective up next

[silver dirge]

Blanked out there

yeah that's all good

[toxic cobalt]

Can probably shift some atk into strength

[valid ivy]

yea i did

[cinder summit]

Sygna Suit Serena & Zygarde (50% Forme)

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:
‎ Roll Cake:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 626
ATK: 424 | DEF: 122
SPA: 424 | SPD: 120
SPE: 332

Acquisition:

Master Fair

Alternates:

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[valid ivy]

sc steven is so op for setup nukes

he worked for a 1/5 kris on entei la

[silver dirge]

He do be pretti crazy

[twilit kiln]

i wanna use ss serena for drasna

what do you recommend that i bring

[toxic cobalt]

Speed

[twilit kiln]

what does speed do?

recharge faster?

[silver dirge]

Help your gauges yes

[twilit kiln]

okie dokie

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, SSSerena is gauge heavy

[valid ivy]

im dying due to not tanking enough

rip

my tank is blaine

bc steven didnt work

does he have any damage reduction tiles

[silver dirge]

Blaine is worse

[valid ivy]

ik but i have fire gear so his stats are just slightly better

[silver dirge]

Ah

Hey if you proc some of the random defense buffs on Blaine's TM, that could help

[valid ivy]

wait i realized i could grab the free support x3 damage now

[keen jasper]

Just don't regret it

[valid ivy]

i flinched and lost :/

[silver dirge]

What happens? Not enough damage on sync or?

[valid ivy]

i p much always die right after sync

but i kill the left side w silver sync

for turn denial

and then am 1 move off another sync

[keen jasper]

+3 crit?

[valid ivy]

silver gives himself +3 crit and +4 atk

[keen jasper]

Well, I'm used to him having SEUN from his TM thanks to his expanded grid

[valid ivy]

i have his expanded grid

[silver dirge]

Their's is power boosted too

[valid ivy]

thtas not the problem tho

[keen jasper]

And EX?

[valid ivy]

i can kill th eleft side

no ex

actualy i was stupid before so not even 20/20

bc i traded the tickets in

we dont talk about that

[silver dirge]

You should aim for mid with sync

[valid ivy]

why mid?

[keen jasper]

||Just like me||

[silver dirge]

because mid is your main target, sides will die to sacred fires

[valid ivy]

oh

but if i dont deny left from getting a turn i dont sync in time

[keen jasper]

You can at least try to weaken the sides by DPS-ing them a little bit

[silver dirge]

yeah

[silver dirge]

Is this second sync or first sync - and which round?

[valid ivy]

round 1

second sync

[silver dirge]

hmm have you tried quad queuing?

[valid ivy]

i go blaine tm -> tackle -> silver tm -> sunny day -> b leer -> silver tm -> fire spin -> b leer -> sacred fire middle

[valid ivy]

idk why i havent actually

well my blaine survived but i was just barely too slow for qq

rip

[toxic cobalt]

Wait is this 0/20 Silver?

[valid ivy]

yea

[silver dirge]

I gave your team a try, and because SC Steven is SC Steven it's actually very doable. You kinda have to reset so Blaine doesn't die too quick though

but my Silver is EX'd

[toxic cobalt]

EX might matter less than the stats

[valid ivy]

does this kill the sides

[silver dirge]

The nuke?

[valid ivy]

yea

[silver dirge]

Yeah

I think Aurochs is right though, stats are probably making the difference

Do you want a recording of my run to see if something helps?

[valid ivy]

i think its possible but my blaine cant die or get flinched which has happened way too many times already

and i just got crit

rip

i mean i can 20/20 silver rn but idk if its worth

[toxic cobalt]

What other fire strikers do you have?

[valid ivy]

ss red

1/5

thats it basically

[toxic cobalt]

Might be better ?!

[sick inlet]

SS red

Go boom boom

[valid ivy]

i could honestly just do celebi cheese

or an ss erika team

[toxic cobalt]

SS Red SS Erika team

[valid ivy]

im not struggling with this csmm but i wanted to try another nuke

[sick inlet]

SSRed
Once the greatest unit.
The solution to all..
Now looked down upon

Dem days

Sas

Sad

[valid ivy]

ss red is 150 and exed but only 1/5

[silver dirge]

You could also replace SC Steven with a physical/speed support, help Silver buff. The support would tank better and probably allow you to get 2nd sync in too

[sick inlet]

I mean

He still deals lots of dps

Even at 1/5

[valid ivy]

i wouldnt be able to nuke middle then

[sick inlet]

Just aint a nuker

[valid ivy]

i could try a flare blitz nuke tho

[toxic cobalt]

Who cares about nuke he has a four bar

[sick inlet]

Flare what

[valid ivy]

with ss red

[silver dirge]

Blast Burn always

[sick inlet]

Ain't no way you said Flare over blast burn 😭

[valid ivy]

i meant w ss steven

[silver dirge]

EX Special Support + Sun Setter + SS Red would probably be pretti good

[valid ivy]

my only available ex supports are

[toxic cobalt]

Don’t ex support

[valid ivy]

eeve sonia alakazam

[toxic cobalt]

SS Red wants to sync for his mega

[silver dirge]

Would miss out on mega stats though

[sick inlet]

I mean, that EX buff pretty much makes him deal roughly the same amount

[valid ivy]

tbh this seems like more effort than its worth

wouldnt a ss lyra ss erika team be better

[toxic cobalt]

It’s less cool

[silver dirge]

This is very true tbh

[valid ivy]

i got ss erika 3/5 instead of a serena so

[toxic cobalt]

I dunno if you can get much less effort than SS Red he self buffs and then just four bars

[silver dirge]

More effort than tanking with Blaine?

[valid ivy]

true

whos hould be support then

[toxic cobalt]

Sun setter and then I dunno Skyla

[sick inlet]

You never told us your lineup

[valid ivy]

my available limited pairs are

c elesa sc steven anni raihan sc diantha

the other teams i plan to use are

[silver dirge]

Doesn't have to be limited, just gotta be a half decent support

[valid ivy]

ncmarnie/lucian/spd support

ssdiantha/idk/idk

ncred/ssbrendan/idk

and sskris/cyrus/may

anyone that i didnt just say i can use

[toxic cobalt]

[valid ivy]

unless i dont have them

alr

[sick inlet]

All reliable f2p

Skyla

Slap her anywhere

[valid ivy]

i originally planned her for marnie team but marnie doesnt relaly need her

[toxic cobalt]

I’ve had her tank rock

[silver dirge]

Skyla supporting us from day 1

[junior crown]

Finallyy!!! Almost gave up on Malva Poison F2P R4...

missed that Dauntless passive and sun every sync hurt

[silver dirge]

Curious, what team did you use?

[junior crown]

SwinMisty KALI Lucy

[sick inlet]

I remember a time before tactics, ssred had mote bulk than skyla and always got targeted first

[junior crown]

KALI saved the day

[silver dirge]

nice nice

[silver dirge]

Oh no these were truly painful days

[junior crown]

Won based on evas, but, it's a win

[silver dirge]

For sure, half sync poison stall

[valid ivy]

i keep missing quadquene

and then not getting propulsion post sync

this is def possible tho

[silver dirge]

You're not setting sun turn 1 are you? That'll mess up qq

[valid ivy]

no i set it up turn 2

im just bad

lol

[silver dirge]

Ah okay. Na qq can be tricky

I still spam click after all this time

[valid ivy]

ive been spam clicking 💀

i get it like 60% of the time

wait are you not supposed to spam click

[silver dirge]

You can apparently also time it

Just as the orange sync buff aura is going away

[valid ivy]

oh

ill try it

wait is there another support i could use

bc they keep lowering my sp atk

[silver dirge]

Is this still your Silver team?

[valid ivy]

nope

ss red

[silver dirge]

Oh right

[gritty nymph]

You will not believe it but this team took maybe too many attempts at wilkstrom

[valid ivy]

does slowing down the game help for qq

oh i got it

[gritty nymph]

Doesn’t slowing down the game make quadqueue impossible?

I actually don’t know cause I only can do it at max speed

[valid ivy]

oh

that would explain why im messing up

i just did it at slowed down tho

so its not impossible

FRICK I MISSED IT

if i got it there i would have won

i need to get it twice

rip

i shoud learn the timing

[junior crown]

No, everyone have their own perception

I always play max speed, but there are some people that for quadqueue prefer 2x speed, 1x speed or normal speed

[silver dirge]

Yeah I'm personally comfortable with 2x

[valid ivy]

when im sweaty tryharding a level i play 2x otherwise i just do 3x

[gritty nymph]

Ah I see

[valid ivy]

i keep trying to predict when it ends and keep predicting wrong

the orange aura

[wild scaffold]

Koga EX murdered Diantha

20k of dmg with a single sync stat buff

(Max spatk, crit and opposing mon poisoned for the sync tile buffs)

[round whale]

whats a good team comp for Cyrus

[wide adder]

I play at 2x speed like 90% of the time myself.
Since sages is on vacation what’s the summary of the weeks stages

[round whale]

trying to use him on Drasna

but shes my 4th battle

[wide adder]

You’d be better off on type nuking if it’s half sync stage than using Cyrus imo

[round whale]

gotcha

[peak stirrup]

Who is the best third with frogs vs water if you don’t have SS Lysandre

[wide adder]

Or offtype nuking if you don’t have for example kris grid

[silver dirge]

I just run May or Egg Gyarados lol

[peak stirrup]

Just for like extra rain support?

[silver dirge]

Gyarados does serious damage

And May is pretty decent too

[peak stirrup]

Huh. Never used egg Gyarados. Might have to try it out.

Probably never used it because I was salty I never got a shiny Karp and couldn’t get that cool red color.

[silver dirge]

Hyber Beam is crazy. I use SS Kris over Calem though

[round whale]

dang tried to sync nuke with Lisia using SC Steven and Argenta

did not work

so uh

update

[wide adder]

Oh it’s the dragon weak stage tbh I thought for a sec you were on water stage

[round whale]

NC Red destroys her

[wide adder]

Is your Cyrus powerboosted— oh ok lol

[round whale]

yeah he was power boosted

i think the battle rule just made it hard for him

[wide adder]

Yeah halfsync is awkward for a lot of teams

I usually make sure I put that in my strongest nuke of the week

[round whale]

time to try and use funny poison team on Diantha even tho none of them are EXed

[wide adder]

I never bother on typing poison anymore unless I’m using allister or whatever personally

[round whale]

yeah funny team not gonna work

time to off type

[wild scaffold]

Comp Cyrus

Definitely NC Blue

1 turn max SpAtk and Crit

Third one some sync countdown acceleration or Lucas for zone.

[round whale]

i still just cant make palmer work idk what im doing wrong 💀

im not attacking with him until sync

but then sync does nothing

[silver dirge]

What move level?

[round whale]

1

[silver dirge]

You should use an EX support with him and stack PMUNs till post sync

[round whale]

OH WAIT

thats what i forgot

you dont sync with him

you wait until post sync to attack

silly me

yeah they wont stop with AoE moves that two shot so i think im gonna try a different off type lol

[lime raven]

Welp i beat wikstrom by myself

r1

[round whale]

Why does Diantha do so much damage 💀

[junior crown]

Don't remembered who asked if it was possible to do poison stall 3k+ I guess

[left storm]

1/5 Palmer is kinda lackluster

His main DPS is his buddy once stacked and sync

[silver dirge]

Mee, I asked a while ago and you said would be possible with perma field effects

[junior crown]

just posted in my channel

[zealous karma]

Astoundjng

[lime raven]

Who do i do for r2 stat lowering?

I tried to do siebold rn

But i know i just have to ex alder

[junior crown]

You don't have EX or candy anyone for CS

[lime raven]

Im doing MM

[junior crown]

even for MM

[lime raven]

Still though

who do i do for r2

oh i had strike takes more dmg

💀

Alright got his ass

Man im doing good doing this by myself

[round whale]

I simply choose to believe Oleana doesn’t actually lower stats

Anyways probably gonna have to lower points for Diantha

[lime raven]

why

[zealous karma]

How did Brendan die

[junior crown]

If you have Oleana no reason to suffer against Diantha, you can always poison stall too

[paper summit]

no one should ever need to stall a poison weak stage...

[junior crown]

why limit the possibilities?

[paper summit]

I mean that you don't have to, not that you can't

if you want, then whatever

[round whale]

I debuff her and she still one shots with AoE

No idea why

[lime raven]

This should be interesting

[junior crown]

that's true for everything, same as saying you don't have to offtype when you can

[round whale]

I have Oleana, Fall Iris, and Emma but none EXed

All 1/5

[paper summit]

...

[zealous karma]

Oleana + Emma is an absurd combo

[paper summit]

you should win easily with that then, what parameters are you using?

[round whale]

Default ones for 2.5k

[lime raven]

why is it always against drasna that i find myself with a zone setter and a pretty good attacker

[junior crown]

You can use Oleana + Emma + Sp def Buffer

don't need to use all 3 together

[round whale]

Gotcha

Any recommendations for the buffer

[lime raven]

man if only i had another ex support like brendan for this

[junior crown]

have you posted your pairs?? Maybe filter who buff sp def

but anyone should work, even OG Misty

[lime raven]

Oh wait

Is current drasna special or physical?

[north crown]

Free w as long as you bring crit buffer so zerena can use TW and CE quicker

[junior crown]

special

[north crown]

Also doesn’t matter, cuz the dragon duo dps will wipe the floor with her

[lime raven]

yeah

You right

man this is easier than i thought

[round whale]

Was just asking in general lol

[lime raven]

Perfect

[junior crown]

It's because it will always depends on the pairs you have, for me the best defensive pair is Aura Cynthia, but it was a limited master pair, but for F2P the best I'd say is BP Morty and SwinMisty (buff both defenses)

But still can use Liza/OG Misty if you don't have tickets/swinmisty

[round whale]

I’ve so got this

Next attempt

Will try out Misty

[junior crown]

Uhm, in this case Melony is better

[lime raven]

why do i feel like im WAY better than i was yesterday

[junior crown]

her G-Max Resonance is a free Light Screen

[lime raven]

Im literally winning first try

[paper summit]

using very OP units gives a bit of a false sense of security

so keep that in mind

[lime raven]

Hah

Im chillin man

Next is water

i know how to deal with that

[round whale]

Yeah figured it out the hard way 💀

[junior crown]

Start with Melany + Oleana max moves

this will unfortunatelly make you unable to do 2 sync before her, but shouldn't matter I believe

[lime raven]

Cyrus misty and a rain setter

Off the top of my head

Is malva special or physical?

[junior crown]

special

[lime raven]

Hm

yeah swim misty should work

[junior crown]

swinmisty works for both, not only for special

[lime raven]

Yeaa

Oh may should be good

Shes 5/5 and ex

For rain

[versed meteor]

Dude with slow start, gets Chase down in this game

[left storm]

Oleana + firis is free even in 3k with infinite field effects lol

I have both 1/5

Free

[noble plaza]

Anyone I should avoid/do for a certain round this Kalos week?

[left storm]

Probably better to avoid fast sync with bug weak

[tired sleet]

Wikstrom is the only physical oriented stage, so you could use him on R3 (Malva/Drasna have 0 Physical moves)
Otherwise it depends on which units you’re using

[zealous karma]

Unless you have like 3/5 SCEmmet + SCIngo it might be fine

Wait this one has sentry entry nvm

[noble plaza]

Who should I do R4? I just did Siebold

[zealous karma]

If you have silver Pb you can try wikstrom last

[cinder summit]

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[twilit kiln]

ss hilda rerun PLS

[round whale]

time to try Diantha again

im one rng roll away from a win

[noble plaza]

I do but I also have Leon

[zealous karma]

You could use both but ideally you’d have SSMorty to support that otherwise maybe just silver

[noble plaza]

Wait why would I use both? One is physical and one is special

[zealous karma]

You don’t have to take the damage reductions

[noble plaza]

Fair

But it makes getting to 2.5k easier

[round whale]

FINALLY

YES

that was horrid

[noble plaza]

[round whale]

Trial and error with some rng is fun

[noble plaza]

Wait, I was planning on using Cyrus for Drasna but Malva is water-weak. I do have Nessa and SS Lysandre though so I'm probably alright

[proud axle]

As long as you have rain.

You do not want her to get a turn in sun.

It's not like Moltres putting status effects and debuffs on you.
It's just terrifying raw damage. Is "Faint" perhaps the worst status effect and 0 HP the worst stat debuff?

[round whale]

meh i had no trouble with Malva tbh with Eusine at least

[zealous karma]

I would hope you didn’t struggle with eusine on type

[round whale]

true

[north crown]

best tm in the game

[lime raven]

I just redid my surge run

it was slightly better

[north crown]

anyways as I have already pinged you, mind telling me ur cs progresS?

[lime raven]

lmao i was asleep for a bit

i still need malva

And then diantha

[north crown]

ah half sync.. rip

You'll definitely need someone like CBlue or Hilbert here

or poison stall if that works

[lime raven]

Im gonna do stall on diantha

[north crown]

k then either ontype or offtype on the team flare mother f

holdup I was looking at last week's info 💀

why did they not update the pins..? idk

nvm sskris + 2 OP water dps should do the job

idk who your 2nd water dps will be though

[lime raven]

Ss kris? 😭

you think i got units like that

💀💀💀

[north crown]

oh.. perhaps I misremembered the people who ahd certain units

[lime raven]

I mean

I have ss ethan but

not gonna help here

[north crown]

yeah nah

[old orchid]

For Malva just do a tank + a rain setter + an op Water dmg dealer like Cyrus

Remove sun and she isnt a threat anymore

[north crown]

what rain units you got? if you have anyone other than quaxly and winona, please tell us

ssbrendan:

[north crown]

ah... idk if you can presync with the lack of quick offensive buffs

might have to postsync

[zealous karma]

what

cyrus is extremely self sufficient

[lime raven]

Who syncs first?

[north crown]

but with this comp, he would only be able to use 2 HPs before opponent sync since this is round 4

or is that pin not updated as well?

hold on

[zealous karma]

the pins are always updated I didnt know it was round 4

[old orchid]

The pins are already updated

[north crown]

One of them is not

specifically Sages'

[old orchid]

For info just go to pomatools. Sages was on vacation so no update on that

[lime raven]

Rain diminishes fire type damage right?

[old orchid]

The round parameters are up to date

[old orchid]

No

[lime raven]

man

[zealous karma]

sages is on vacation so e

[lime raven]

why cant this be like the games sometimes

[zealous karma]

because I want to use ethan with sskris

[north crown]

hey at least you can use electric moves on ground types

anyways @lime raven if you haven't used NCBlue and you got enough ex materials, I'd just EX NCBlue at that point

[lime raven]

I did use nc blue

[north crown]

hm.. now I'm intrigued about that team

but whatever he's alr used so

[nocturne pawn]

personally id use someone who can buff crit

oh great discord didnt scroll

[north crown]

anyways I as thinking about bursting down Malva with May's nuke with a really offensive, non ex support

[lime raven]

Well well well

[zealous karma]

noy piets

[nocturne pawn]

hide and sync is gonna be horrendous to set up

[old orchid]

Dont use Piers

[nocturne pawn]

can she kill with rain and like -1 acc

[old orchid]

Do you have SS Elesa or Sabrina available?

[north crown]

you need crit + spatk since May's not that great with buffing herself

[nocturne pawn]

do they not have a 3/5 kris

[north crown]

if you haven't used ssbrendan, perfect

[nocturne pawn]

shes usually a very easy solution for water weaks

[lime raven]

what about

Sc Lillie

[old orchid]

Good

[nocturne pawn]

does she have crit squad

[north crown]

oh she might work, tho I'm unfamiliar with her buffing capabilities. All I know is that she can buff spatk and crit EVENTUALLY

[nocturne pawn]

cuz focus group isnt exactly the fastest way to buff crit

[north crown]

kiawe might work

[nocturne pawn]

tm is x spatk all the problem is that she needs to attack to raise crit at base

[lime raven]

Everyone youve mentioned ive used

ss brendan nc blue kiawe

[nocturne pawn]

is your sc lillie 3/5

[north crown]

2/5

[lime raven]

2/5

[nocturne pawn]

bleh

i dont think she has crit squad then

[rotund lagoon]

Plan your teams before starting next time... :T

[nocturne pawn]

you might need to post sync

[lime raven]

its the first day lmao

[nocturne pawn]

cuz i dont think may is getting set up fast enough

[lime raven]

hm

i can do off type and sst red?

[nocturne pawn]

sure

[north crown]

Planning ahead was what I tried to do, however for some reason I thought that they had suicine

oh you still have sstred? nice!

[lime raven]

i havent off typed

[old orchid]

SC Lillie is perfect in that team regardless of move level

[north crown]

honestly just nuke mid twice lol

[old orchid]

And you have op ontype options anyway, shouldnt bother with offtyping

[north crown]

but half sync

[nocturne pawn]

but is half sync

[old orchid]

Lillie has Potion tho?

[nocturne pawn]

if it wasnt half sync then sc lillie is fine

[old orchid]

And with post sync params Malva hits like a wet noodle

[lime raven]

Oh so i should run post sync

[nocturne pawn]

well thats what i said before

[old orchid]

I dont understand your logic tbh

[nocturne pawn]

you probably have to post sync

[north crown]

really? alrighty then ig postsync works according to gakon

[lime raven]

yeah

Post sync

[nocturne pawn]

well i was operating under the fact sc lillie wouldnt buff crit fast enough due to not having access to crit squad

[north crown]

I think 2 may syncs should be good enough. and if you can't quadqueue, you can always resort to denying left side on turn 4

[old orchid]

You can grid Critical Focus 2 on Cyrus' grid

[nocturne pawn]

i meant on may since the idea here is to nuke with may

at least thats what i assumed

[north crown]

bro have you even tried that water dps duo? may still nukes pretty hard even without her full setup

and hydro pump is busted, especially with an ex supp

[old orchid]

Just try the battle first

[north crown]

which we aren't running, but still

[nocturne pawn]

i usually use may with archie and supp ex with ss brendan

[rotund lagoon]

Unlike the other Kalos matches?

[old orchid]

At least for my alt with nearly identical teams

My tank was SS Elesa

[north crown]

hey.. perhaps sabrina would be better cuz she can buff quicker, tho idk about her bulk

same thing with sselesa

[old orchid]

Lillie has healing so she is a safer option

[rotund lagoon]

Sabrina is an awful tank

[nocturne pawn]

well with reflect it shouldnt be that bad

[old orchid]

Doesnt Malva use special tho

In my run she kept using special moves

[nocturne pawn]

oops i guess that was rock weak

they honestly all blend together to me cuz shes never been that hard

[zealous karma]

malva only has fire shift quick attack but she makes sure to spam overheat against Sabrina

[nocturne pawn]

but yeah shes spamming fire blast

[rotund lagoon]

Hers isn't Drake-level bad, but I only ever have her up front if it's a team that clears fast

[north crown]

if joe feels like it, they could grid sabrina with critical cooldown just for the funny rng aspect

it migth just help trivialize the run if they're lucky enough

[lime raven]

This aint working

f it

Im stalling

[old orchid]

[north crown]

having fun dealing with sun

also can't you jsut use sstred

[old orchid]

Why not try different tanks? Because you have 2 OP Water type dmg dealers in your team

And you didnt say what went wrong

[lime raven]

The problem is crits

I kinda maxed out hp

And defense

[old orchid]

Dont pick defense

params

Check the pins for recommended param sets

[north crown]

also try using sabrina, as she can buff a lot quicker

and according to everyone else, Malva uses special attacks only, so that's a w for Sabrina's insanely high spdef

[lime raven]

My sabrina isnt ex though

[old orchid]

I can beat Malva with the same team except it was non EX SS Elesa

[north crown]

yeah you're fine, especially with 2 highly acclaimed water dps pairs

even if Sabrina dies before 2nd sync, you should be fine with how good the rest of the team is

[north crown]

no max hp 2

replace with ally healing, since we're not purposefully healing anyone

sure sabrina can, but I think using those on May before her first sync is way more valuable

[north crown]

yeah that should be everything for sabrina, cyrus, may team for post sync

[fiery canopy]

my poison roster is so pathetic i just offtyped diantha w nc red and irida

[valid ivy]

i asked this before but im gonna ask again to be sure

will ss kris cyrus and may work for half sync

[north crown]

yeah that's the general grid for sabrina aside from on the ropes, but either way, otr3 is not that important nor is changing it

[lime raven]

Lmao you have it better than me

[north crown]

absolutely, especially if sskris is ex

[valid ivy]

yea ss kris ex

alr

[north crown]

ah so that's who had sskris xDD

[valid ivy]

lmao

[lime raven]

I fw her theme honestly

[old orchid]

Please keep the topic here PG-13

[lime raven]

What the fuck i died

Why does she have burn

[old orchid]

Just try again

[valid ivy]

for the timing for quadquene

how long do i wait after the orange dissapears

bc i did it too earlu

[swift swan]

the orange?

[valid ivy]

is it not that?

[swift swan]

can you clarify what "orange" you're referring to

[valid ivy]

the orange aura around the pokemon

after sync