Champion Stadium

[lime raven]

and yeah im not using summer marnie

[nocturne pawn]

maybe its cuz i ran it on half sync

[lime raven]

although

Her sync though

Cuz i have her ex

and 150

[nocturne pawn]

idk im still ready to call it skill issue but if you say so

[zealous karma]

It was across a lot of helpers so E

[lime raven]

Nah i need special attackers huh

[zealous karma]

I think even Tai was on the side of mina because 1/5 diantha isn’t good

[lime raven]

I got bp valerie to 3/5

The only problem is i cant get skills rn

[nocturne pawn]

its 2/5

but like the only thing that has access to is double down 2

i doubt that 5% extra bp is making that much of a difference

unless she needs ex stats that much

[lime raven]

I heard she doesnt

but im not doing enough damage

[nocturne pawn]

cuz its str12 with hp up

i go hyper offense with str and attack

[lime raven]

theres grad healing too

[nocturne pawn]

it’s definitely capable of winning you need to change the parameters though

lower strength and take attack up

and basically pray she doesnt open with dragon rush

[zealous karma]

Even double down 2 is worse than sync toles e

[zealous karma]

Why didn’t you want to use SMarnie?

[nocturne pawn]

idk either shes fine

rising tide unit with relatively simple set up

[lime raven]

Because everyone else is special

And shes physical

[zealous karma]

Well it’s only Sshau that’s special your support can freely change

And she’s self sufficient too

[lime raven]

Alright

That gave me an idea then

[nocturne pawn]

i use hau as a zone bot for fairy

his personal contribution is whatever to me

[lime raven]

I can still lower and up my speed with hau

and marnies sync is better than dianthas

i just dont know about hop though

I WAS SO CLOSE

i got an idea

[zealous karma]

How did hop die

[lime raven]

He got impulsed

Again bruh

I keep getting close

[wild scaffold]

Drasna is very tanky this week

Unless I should be using physical Fairy

[lime raven]

BRUHHH

all he had to do was miss me that one time with rock slide

you guys thinking what im thinling

I gotta do it

[nocturne pawn]

no you dont

[lime raven]

you want me to record gameplay

[zealous karma]

That’s like really close

Do you have potion MPR on hop?

[lime raven]

Yeah

I just dont have a master healer

Thats it

[zealous karma]

When are you using fairy zone?

[lime raven]

Ive tried both right away and then after dragon zone and only after dragon zone

same result

only one of the sides left

[zealous karma]

You should not be using fairy zone that early because you’re more than likely still buffing her up you should use it right before the first supp ex sync

[lime raven]

wait

Hop syncs???

[nocturne pawn]

hes ex and he has adrenaline

theres no reason not to

[lime raven]

So first hop then marnie

[wild scaffold]

Drasna is tough

Diantha EX doesn’t do any dmg

Even with 3* Fairy gears

[nocturne pawn]

shes not supposed to nuke if thats what you mean

just sync asap and use moonblast

[north crown]

what the frick is happening

anyways I didn't want to suggest presync Diantha cuz she is kinda mid compared to other limited options

AKA SuMarnie

[lime raven]

Im still not beating drasna

[grand trout]

I think the stage is drasna

Yeah

[north crown]

adn idk if Joe knows how to setup gimmicky sync nukes

also I don't use SuMarnie so

You're mostly all on your own for her

All I know is that she's self sufficient, and that she has debuff nuke

[grand trout]

Are you quadqueueing, joe?

[lime raven]

Marnie does buttloads of damage with hops sync

[grand trout]

What happened to valerie?

[north crown]

You know what you could do @lime raven ? FIsh for 50% SEUP on Bulk up before 2nd sync.

[lime raven]

No valerie

[grand trout]

The BP one?

I thought you already got her

[lime raven]

I did but everyone told me to use hop insteaf

HAU

[north crown]

no one knows how to use her tho, and also idk if they got the candies to upgrade her move level. Joe is a relatively new player.

[lime raven]

well

not exactly

[north crown]

I mean.. SSHau has zone and speed buffs via B Move

[grand trout]

Why not use hop, valerie, AND ss hau

[north crown]

BPValerie*

[grand trout]

You need to time your zone btw, you can't use it early on

[north crown]

Waitaminute couldn't you just run Mina if. you're thinking of running BPValerie? iirc Mina has a better nuke

Hop + Mina is a frequently used duo core

[lime raven]

Then whats the point of having ex summer marnie

[north crown]

idk you tell me you puleld her

also as I said, idk how to use her optimally

[grand trout]

Hold on

[lime raven]

Cause shes my fav

[cinder summit]

Marnie (Summer 2021) & Grimmsnarl

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_FAIRY:967452395686756392> Spirit Break

Gauge: 4 | Power: 140 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Sp. Atk. by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_DARK:967452395858710598> Crunch

Gauge: 3 | Power: 99 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Has a chance (20%) of lowering the target's Defense by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_FIGHTING:967452396034883635> Bulk Up

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: -
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Attack and Defense by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Not Today!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 1
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Applies the Gradual Healing effect to the user. Applies the Enduring effect to the user. When the user's Defense is raised, raises the user's Sp. Def by the same amount. When the user's Attack is raised, raises the user's Speed by the same amount.

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_FAIRY:967452395686756392> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Kickback Summer Fairy Impact

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
The more the user's stats are raised, the greater the power of this attack.

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[north crown]

They got her at 1/5 EX

[lime raven]

He does yes

[grand trout]

So her innates are buffs, huh

[north crown]

OH IT'S INNATE POWER PLAY?!?!?

or the inverse one whatever

rising tide.. yeah that's the one

holy

[grand trout]

Use hop, sumarnie and ss hau i guess

[lime raven]

See

[north crown]

ok new plan, spam hop tm and Crunch for 2 turns, have SuMarnie use tm turn 3, turn 4 spirit break/crunch, turn 5-6 fish for super infliction on Bulk Up

[lime raven]

Ive been an on and off player since 2019

[north crown]

should be ez one shot even at 1/5 due to Rising Tide, Tech EX, and SEUP

[grand trout]

And only use zone right before nuke

[lime raven]

Nuke

Okay

[grand trout]

Make sure it overwrites dragon zone

[lime raven]

I always time that right

[grand trout]

Good

Good luck

[north crown]

wow... 3 sync nuke multiplers at 1/5

[grand trout]

Sync with hop first btw

For adrenaline and support ex

[lime raven]

BRUH DRASNA USED RUSH MULTIPLE TIMES

[north crown]

spam potion with hop on turns 5 and 6 then ig

anyways trying 1/5 HJasmine EX, 1/5 Diantha, Kali

nvm I forgot Kali has quick tempo, which ruins quadq...

[nocturne pawn]

isnt it a grid passive

[cinder summit]

Kali (Furisode Girl) & Azumarill

Quick Tempo:

Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play the first time the user enters a battle each battle.

Flameproof:

Prevents the user from getting burned.

Fire Guard:

Reduces damage when the user is attacked by Fire-type moves.

Themes:

Fairy | Kalos | Pigtails

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[nocturne pawn]

never mind

cringe unit

[north crown]

indeed shie is..

[nocturne pawn]

ok this is

something

[lime raven]

OKAY I GOT SUPEREFFECTIVE NEXT AND HOPS ABOUT TO SYNC

[nocturne pawn]

i know shes free but they really dropped the ball with her after naomi and helena

[lime raven]

so far so good

Wait does seup stack

It does right

[nocturne pawn]

its multiplicative

multiplied the final damage by 1.5x

[lime raven]

So it does?

[nocturne pawn]

it multiplies the damage after its affected by other multipliers

[twilit kiln]

I made one of my employees clear it for me

Still not spending anything more on the game tho

If the game wants me to wait until I can enjoy the game, then it can wait until it gets my money

[lime raven]

I think im doing this wrong

im exing first with hop

and im doing everything right with marnie

2 crunches and them tm

i keep dying to drasnas sides after her sync

WOOOOO

THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

Now Malva

[lime raven]

I did it

[zealous karma]

That still looks extremely close

[lime raven]

yeah but

I beat her

how do we do malva?

[zealous karma]

I just used hilbert Acerola Olivia any physical support can be used over hilbert

[grand trout]

She has se x2

If you don't have classic blue or lodge Steven, offtype

[lime raven]

I have SS Diantha

[grand trout]

That works

[lime raven]

And 4/5 kukui ex

[grand trout]

Okay first off malva has weather

You'd want to replace it

Any units for that?

[lime raven]

I have Anni Raihan

[grand trout]

Perfect

Try anni raihan, ss diantha,and kukui

[lime raven]

wait but

[grand trout]

Sync with diantha first

[lime raven]

support tho

[grand trout]

Hm?

Well you'd sync with diantha first

If you really want a support, drop kukui with one that can buff defenses

[lime raven]

Cause you basically saying to run this

[zealous karma]

That’s not true at all and I would not recommend that as general advice Olivia clears this extremely easily

[grand trout]

???

[nocturne pawn]

malva has like

abnormally low hp

for kalos cs

[grand trout]

It's general advice for sentry entryx2 units.

[nocturne pawn]

even through sentry entry its easily brute forceable

ss diantha makes it even easier

confused about raihan but the rest of it is fine

[grand trout]

Yes malva can be done by ss diantha and olivia but recommending a special unit for a stage like that isn't bad advicr???

[nocturne pawn]

recommending to off type if you dont have 2 specific units is pepega

[zealous karma]

Sentry entry x2 is the equivaqlent to a unit off typing but also has added benefits of SEUN on type multipliers etc, you would have to be using a bad damage dealer for them to not be able to clear an entry x2 stage

[zealous karma]

Especially when Olivia's off type isnt anything bad either she had the best sync in the game until zerena, which I think theyre tied because Olivia got rock zone

[grand trout]

Okay whatever

I'm trying to help

[nocturne pawn]

wait huh

[grand trout]

I don't see what's wrong with that advice

[nocturne pawn]

that sounds really exaggerated

[zealous karma]

I am not lel

[nocturne pawn]

because rock is not a bad type

unlike bug

bug wex2 is the only entry x2 stage i really felt like off typing cuz bugs are just

ew

[grand trout]

And what's wrong with offtyping?

[nocturne pawn]

nothing

its questionable to recommend when a gen pool can already beat the fight

[grand trout]

So why tell my advice is 'bad'

[nocturne pawn]

is all we’re saying

[nocturne pawn]

i didnt

[grand trout]

I'm not dealing with this. Joe there are others who can help you here. I'm going to sleep.

[zealous karma]

It is bad advice as it is not well informed, and to recommend it as general advice or to someone is what is bad especially when you are telling someone if they dont have 2 limiteds to just off type, of course not everyone is knowledgeable and it is a big task to ask someone toalways be informed, just be more mindful before giving advice

[lime raven]

Wait so

[lime raven]

thank you for helping me

[grand trout]

Meh.

[lime raven]

I just came back 😭

[zealous karma]

This team is fine but kukui does not need to be here a support would be a better slot in things to keep in mind are save raihans tm for Diantha's sync any supp ex works for her as she is self sufficient

[lime raven]

How bout skyla

[nocturne pawn]

thats fine

[zealous karma]

I apologize if this came off as rude I did not intend to start anything, and I am not the best at handling these types of situations I just would like to let you know for more in the future

[lime raven]

Oh yeah i almost forgot

i assume i could just use one of the other e4 members params right?

[zealous karma]

for the champion fight ye

Depending on your team round 2 and 4's param are the most helpful

[grand trout]

I know olivia and diantha can clear the stage easily.

I'm just setting up a practice of bringing opposite units to x2 stages.

Apology accepted, i just need to cool off.

[zealous karma]

Oh alright I still am sorry tho lel

[lime raven]

is pre sync or post sync better

[nocturne pawn]

but you dont need to because the units are generally strong enough regardless

[nocturne pawn]

depends on what your team is

[lime raven]

raihan ss diantha skyla

[nocturne pawn]

wait isnt diantha ground weak

[lime raven]

Steel

[nocturne pawn]

uhhhhhhhhh

[winged gyro]

hello! does anyone got any unit recommendations or advice against Siebold in master challenge? for some reason i struggle to make Elesa work

[lime raven]

Oh uh

guys

[nocturne pawn]

she is ground weak

[nocturne pawn]

take the extra effects round effect

[nocturne pawn]

it makes volkner guaranteed to paralyze and flinch

[nocturne pawn]

what

i dont understand the issue

[lime raven]

You said shes ground weak

[nocturne pawn]

skyla should be able to tank a couple of hits with maxed defense

[nocturne pawn]

diantha is ground weak

she was steel weak last week

[lime raven]

Bro

OH YOU MEAN

[nocturne pawn]

yes i mean the weaknesses

oh

holy shit im dumb

i thought we were on the champion already :icant:

[lime raven]

Its happened to me too bro

Lmao

[lime raven]

soooo

Pre sync huh

[nocturne pawn]

sure you can do that

[lime raven]

Alright

Lets do this

Okay

I am doing something

Wrong

Sorry

Im slow rn

[fluid vessel]

That was BAD

[winged gyro]

still no success with Elesa, i tried offtype and it goes better but i am still struggling against siebold for no reason

[lime raven]

Yooo Rafa

[lime raven]

Im not having any luck

[wild scaffold]

This makes no sense

[lime raven]

Wha

[wild scaffold]

Already Synced with Diantha and NCBlue

Her dmg is still low

[zealous karma]

Diantha moment sadly\

[fluid vessel]

more like non crit moment

[lime raven]

Why am i not killing malva

Help

[zealous karma]

thats not possible

+3 crit moonblast is guaranteed

[nocturne pawn]

what move level was she i forgot

[wild scaffold]

She has 3+ crit

[zealous karma]

1/5

[zealous karma]

were you saving raihans tm for before dianthas second sync?

[nocturne pawn]

her sync is fairly unimpressive at 1/5

[wild scaffold]

Malva is also tough. I used Olivia for her

[nocturne pawn]

id try double striker

with like hilbert

[lime raven]

eh

I only have olivia as striker

[zealous karma]

diantha should be doing this much with her sync

[nocturne pawn]

yes exactly

olivia with zone should be able to clear fine

arguably better anyway since she has ex to wipe sides

[lime raven]

Are my params good tho

[zealous karma]

it looks like a lot of offense how is skyla fairing against it

[lime raven]

She gets two shotted

[zealous karma]

you can take interference immunity and no status with diantha

oh

I would remove poh than

[lime raven]

Poh?

[zealous karma]

power on hit

[old orchid]

What are your params? The numbers seem low

[zealous karma]

It seems right to me

[lime raven]

So

sandstorm

diantha tm

[old orchid]

But NC Blue dying is wrong

[lime raven]

skyla tm

?

[zealous karma]

this is with -6 spdef and Ssoh so the numbers are correcty

[zealous karma]

queue sandstorm as the last move of the first cycle,and use rock tomb instead of her tm. If you arent confident in your quad queueing skills use it after skylas sync

[lime raven]

So

rock tomb -> take flight! -> sandstorm

[zealous karma]

correct

[lime raven]

So when do i use dianthas tm

[zealous karma]

If you do know how to quad queue you do not need to use dianthas tm at all

[lime raven]

Really

So when do i use rock wish?

[zealous karma]

second cycle last turn tho

and from there you spam diamnd storm

[wild scaffold]

Thanks

Will give it a try

[lime raven]

Wait so

Do i fire spin everyone with raihan?

Or

Just

Twister

[wild scaffold]

Im using strength 6

[zealous karma]

It doesnt really matter

[zealous karma]

I run strength 12

[lime raven]

Do i use raihans dmax ever

[zealous karma]

no

[lime raven]

Ok

so you said use his tm right before the second sync with diantha?

[zealous karma]

clorrect

[lime raven]

i cant beat her

I dont know what im doing wrong

Im literally doing everything right

[winged gyro]

Somehow it worked better than using Elesa, I really struggle to make her work... is she completely unviable at 2/5? If she doesn't die from Siebold she dies through recoil before even putting Siebold down by half while Archie drop a single Thunder for 17k on a good run

[wild scaffold]

Finally

Had to remove all the strength parameters

I had strength 6 and 3

[north crown]

You still trying this?

If yes and you got Leaf EX, I want to suggest something stupid.

[lime raven]

I was

but i had to go do something

Im back now

[north crown]

so u still stuck?

[lime raven]

Yea

I need to hurry up

[old orchid]

1/5 SS Diantha sucks at being the solo dmg dealer

I suggest using a Rock dmg dealer instead of Anni Raihan

[lime raven]

Ah

[old orchid]

Like Roark or Olivia

[lime raven]

What about my 4/5 ex kukui

[nocturne pawn]

i told them to do that earloer

[nocturne pawn]

not really a damage dealer

more of a nuker

[lime raven]

Welp

[north crown]

rip ig 1/5 SSDiantha is not good for f2p friendly teambuilding 💀

anyways olivia time

[lime raven]

So about your poison idea

[nocturne pawn]

just run 3/5 hilbert and grid for endurance

[old orchid]

No need to restrict to f2p, we help building teams with their roster

[nocturne pawn]

that way hes at least maxing attack and crit for the second damage dealer

[lime raven]

ahhhh

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah, don't deal with any nonsense. Poison and be done.

[nocturne pawn]

problem with endurance is that you cant run half hp but you shouldnt against malva anyway

[north crown]

It involved sync acceleration w/ SSD's mega tm + another

[lime raven]

I saw your clear

[north crown]

Hilbert's waterfall could suffice as well

[lime raven]

It looked cool

[north crown]

so you thinking of poison stalling now?

[lime raven]

Its more uh

joe friendly

[north crown]

I mean, you got SwiMisty, the ultimate f2p defensive tank

p sure you'll be fine

[lime raven]

Yes i do

[toxic cobalt]

Fishing for that mpr

[nocturne pawn]

what happen to bp morty

he even has innate mh1

[north crown]

hey it's not that bad! roughly 1/3 chance?

[nocturne pawn]

and then no other passives to speak of whatsoever

[toxic cobalt]

BP Morty is great stall support at 3/5. Not Leaf level though.

[nocturne pawn]

whys leaf better for stall

[north crown]

Woudl SwiMisty or Leaf be better for stall?

[toxic cobalt]

Leaf doesn't need a 30% mpr chance

[nocturne pawn]

but she needs 3 syncs and no synchro healing

[lime raven]

Lucy

[nocturne pawn]

uh

[lime raven]

I have 3 hours to beat malva and diantha

[fluid vessel]

Thanks half sync for allowing me to use sync pairs I don't like to use

[lime raven]

Whats wrong with Marnie? 😡

[fluid vessel]

4 gauge

[lime raven]

I mean

Supports

[fluid vessel]

[lime raven]

Pls help

[old orchid]

Who is the dmg dealer in place of Raihan?

We already told you to replace him multiple times

[old orchid]

I see Olivia

[lime raven]

I dont have her grid and i cant skill her rn

[nocturne pawn]

where did your orbs go

and did you set expedition teams

[lime raven]

I can orb

But i cant skill

[old orchid]

Thats fine

Grid her with Inertia at least

Use Hilbert for support

[nocturne pawn]

lucky skills hardly matter

[old orchid]

Does Hilbert have grid?

[nocturne pawn]

proper grids are a lot more important

[lime raven]

So

How am i gonna deal with

Weather

[old orchid]

Hope Malva doesnt attack much

[nocturne pawn]

grid endurance so he’s guaranteed to survive a hit

[old orchid]

I see you have Fall Cailtin, who is more defensive

[lime raven]

Hilbert doesnt have vigilance

[old orchid]

You can always do stalling like others suggested, the reset is also coming near too

Doesnt matter, if he gets critted just reset

[lime raven]

I dont know who to stall with

[nocturne pawn]

lucy ariados bp morty/swimsuit misty

grid lucy for hostile environment

and thats really it

[old orchid]

Lucy can be ungridded, just reset for poison first turn

[nocturne pawn]

ew

[lime raven]

I still have sycamore and ssbrendan 😭

[old orchid]

They are offensive supports

Just do stall or you cant finish the CS in time

[dense hamlet]

Need help with the whole master mode champion stadium, and I’ve been the using the recommended parameters. If I could get team recommendations that would be much appreciated.

[lime raven]

Welp

[old orchid]

Which CS tho, Kalos or Psychic?

[old orchid]

Please avoid posting flex here, you are flooding the channel

Now get him to 3/5 and grid him

[lime raven]

Are you sure i dont need vigilance

[dense hamlet]

Kalos

[old orchid]

Again, just reset when you get critted. Morty's bulk is enough to tank a few crits

[nocturne pawn]

he has potions with mh1

[old orchid]

Please turn off ping when you reply to me

Somehow my discord cant load your images

[dense hamlet]

Ok how should I show you what sync pairs I have?

[old orchid]

Oh i can see them now

I assume you have most gen pool and story 3 and 4*, 4 star event pairs and 1 - 2 BP pairs

[dense hamlet]

Yeah

I think I have most if not all of the 4 star event pairs

[lime raven]

So what does morty’s grid look like?

[old orchid]

Wikstrom: Bea
Malva: SS Diantha
Drasna: Ny Lisia
Siebold: i assume you have 3/5 Hau
Diantha: NC Red

I pinpoint these dmg dealers for each stage. Now you just have to pair them with good teammates to answer each stage gimmick and help the main dmg dealer

[old orchid]

Just full heal grid with Synchro Healing

[lime raven]

Alr

[old orchid]

Check #1009587872342478908 pins

[lime raven]

So Lucy can be left ungridded?

[old orchid]

Yeah unless you have many orbs to spare

Because she is low priority

[old orchid]

Thats not enough to grid HE1

[lime raven]

So

No grid

Hows this look now

[old orchid]

Replace Misty with Janine

For atk debuffs

[lime raven]

Janine has no grid

[zealous karma]

She doesn’t need one

[lime raven]

Alright

[toxic cobalt]

Only grid is BP Morty

[lime raven]

Who is supposed to sync

[toxic cobalt]

BP Morty

[old orchid]

Read Synchro Healing's effect and you will know why

[lime raven]

You guys

The recommended grid didnt have synchro

[fluid vessel]

I swear I dodged Flare Blitz but that was not needed because I missed the quadqueue

[old orchid]

Then just pick one with SH

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/14800/42900?s=5&l=140&r=4&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDhESFBUYJiks

You can use this

[lime raven]

Alright

Am i good to go now

[old orchid]

Yes just go now

[silver dirge]

[lime raven]

Now

Diantha time

Wait hop cs doesnt end at reset does it?

[old orchid]

It doesnt

[lime raven]

So

Idk which of these params will help with diantha

Uhhhh

[old orchid]

That depends on your team

[lime raven]

You wanna see who i got first

[toxic cobalt]

Which one are you going to use?

[lime raven]

Probably gio and zerena

[toxic cobalt]

That will need a lot of gauge to pull off

[silver dirge]

I would probably opt for either Zerena or Gio not both. Two 4 guage moves is

And gio is pretti slow

[wicked pebble]

Any changes I should make? Selections I should look into? Not complete obviously.

[lime raven]

Alright

Zerena stays

So what special parameter do i use

[toxic cobalt]

Unsure what Blaine, Ghetsis, and SS Erika are for

[silver dirge]

Hard mode medal by any chance?

[toxic cobalt]

Probably status condition, does the least harm

I do think Arch is right though

[lime raven]

what?

[old orchid]

They didn't ask you

[silver dirge]

Not you

[lime raven]

Is diantha special atk by any chance

[silver dirge]

Mostly physical I believe

[lime raven]

Oh okay

Do i want to make diantha more powerful or more tanky

[silver dirge]

One side uses special moves but it's just ancient power

[old orchid]

That depends on your team

[lime raven]

Im using zerena

[old orchid]

If your dmg dealer(s) cant clear fast enough, make her more bulky

[silver dirge]

Depending on your support you may have to reset if she head smashes anyway

[lime raven]

Who syncs first support or serena

[old orchid]

Serena

[wicked pebble]

again.

Not ocmplete, obviously

They're holdovers from the teams I used last CS

[old orchid]

He just asked why you put them there in first place

[wicked pebble]

Becasue tehre were teams in that slot originally and I'm replacing them?

[silver dirge]

You asked for changes lol and those are what you should replace

Otherwise looks fine

[wicked pebble]

the slected members are Gio and Bertha, Bea and Aura Cynth, Olivia and Ingo, Diantha, and Ash and SS Hau.

[old orchid]

You didnt give the reason when you first asked, thats why he asked you about them

[wicked pebble]

So, what, I should empty out the teams each and every time?

[silver dirge]

No, that's up to you, but there was no context for everyone else

That's all

[old orchid]

[wicked pebble]

back onto the topicat hand?

[silver dirge]

Bring a gauge support for Gio/Bertha
Physical support for Bea/Cynthia, some speed would be nice (Sonia, Hilbert)
If you'd like to max out speed faster, bring a speed support with Olivia/Ingo. Otherwise can do a defense debuffer
And for the last team, you just need a tank Ash doesn't need much help

Actually I'd put SS Hau with Diantha for Fairy Zone. If you want E-terrain for Ash just bring Volkner

[wicked pebble]

was more thinking SS Hau with Ash for easy speed for the whole team.

[silver dirge]

If you'd like sure, but Ash should clear it fast enough where you won't feel the need for guages

It's just the B-move you want full guages otherwise it's a 2 guage spam

[wicked pebble]

Here's how they look now.

[old orchid]

Ash shouldnt struggle with gauge in that team

[silver dirge]

That looks pretty good to me overall

[old orchid]

Thats good now, but Roxanne doesnt do anything meaningful in Olivia team

She is a spatk support

[silver dirge]

Yea just a little speed

[old orchid]

Ingo and Olivia herself buffs speed anyway

[silver dirge]

If you aim for 2nd sync Olivia though she'll max it out herself

[old orchid]

Replace her with a defense debuffer or another Rock dmg dealer

[wicked pebble]

...Doesn't she already buff defense?

Both defenses, actually?

[silver dirge]

Also I see SST Red on another team, just curious why you're not pairing with Ash?

[wicked pebble]

...

that's my Kanto team for daily rotation.

[old orchid]

Ingo is tanky under sand already

[silver dirge]

Debuff defense for more damage

[wicked pebble]

Plus, it clashes since I tend to focus either physical or special. Ash is special, Redchu is physical.

[silver dirge]

Yes, I know, I'm just asking

Cool, np

[rotund lagoon]

Gakon meant the other way around. Debuffing.

Defensive debuffs help a lot for a team when you can slot it in.

[lime raven]

Okay i need to stop using ss giovanni

Even though

he gets rid of almost half of dianthas hp

Just with dynamax alone

[silver dirge]

What's your team?

[lime raven]

Ss giovanni zerena and skyla

I know i know

But i wanted to play around with it

[silver dirge]

Lol it's fine, nothing saying you can't experiment that's how you learn what goes well together

[old orchid]

Giovanni doesnt have max crit in that team, because he is only 1/5

Get rid of Serena, and bring a crit support and a defense debuffer

[rotund lagoon]

Also feel like SS Gio and Zerena eat up gauge like a horse

[lime raven]

Yeah i missed turns cause of that

[silver dirge]

Yep

[rotund lagoon]

That should be your sign to change your team.

Cause if you cannot triple queue, then you’re screwed

[rotund lagoon]

Huh? Why SC Lillie?

Diantha hits you with physical moves.

[keen jasper]

And Diantha instantly deletes her with Head Smash

[rotund lagoon]

If you’re trying to buff Crit, there are a few of Atk/Df/Crit Support options. Not sure if your Hop or Sonia have been used

[lime raven]

Yeah both of them

Gone

[keen jasper]

Do you have Courtney?

Because this fight is made specifically for her

[rotund lagoon]

Do you have Courtney? She’s Ground type.

[keen jasper]

Wrong reply

[rotund lagoon]

Let’s refrain from posting that when someone is being helped

[keen jasper]

||I was about to ask that until Rafa ruined it||

[keen jasper]

And she's 3/5 too

[lime raven]

Wait a minute

who is that against

[fluid vessel]

Drasna

[lime raven]

Oh lol nvm

[keen jasper]

I thought that was Crobat

[fluid vessel]

she can't do Siebold due to Healthy Advantage, at least with the half sync strat

[lime raven]

If courtney needs vigilance i cant give that to her rn

[keen jasper]

I mean Siebold has defense buff multipliers so she gets instantly deleted

[keen jasper]

She won't, she'll be there to use ground zone for Giovanni

[lime raven]

Oh yeah

We packin diantha fs

[fluid vessel]

she has protect so she survives the sync with the half sync parameter

[lime raven]

Yeah but

[fluid vessel]

but she can't kill fast under Healthy Advantage

[lime raven]

Yk what i might ex courtney only cause i like her

I have plenty power ups

Idk

Maybe

[rotund lagoon]

You’ll be fine waiting.

Just focus on what we told you to do for your team.

[lime raven]

So courtney instead of leaf?

[rotund lagoon]

Correct.

And remember what I told you about Lillie?

[north crown]

bro what the fuck why u ask now?!?!?! 💀 💀 💀 💀 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿 🗿

[rotund lagoon]

Dude, ngl that’s rude

[lime raven]

💀

[north crown]

well at least they got SOME help

[lime raven]

Wait so who support

[north crown]

WDYM WHO SUPPORT YOU HAVE LESS THAN AN HOUR LEFT

[rotund lagoon]

Someone who can buff Crit and Df.

[lime raven]

Its just diantha left bro

[north crown]

still....

lemme see ur team. you probably sent it somewhere

[lime raven]

I wish misty could buff crit

[north crown]

yeah crit, def and speed

[rotund lagoon]

Misty??? She’s Sp Df.

[lime raven]

And Df

swimsuit btw

[north crown]

did you use rosa? if not, she can be your bootleg gauge recovery

[rotund lagoon]

I was gonna say, specify…

[lime raven]

ehhhh

[north crown]

idk if swimisty wg mgr9 is enough for ssgio tho

[lime raven]

Sorry

hm

If only skyla wasnt weak to rock

[north crown]

ssdawn..?

[lime raven]

oh yeah i have her

But ive never used her

[north crown]

bro what

[lime raven]

Yup

i just got her one day two years ago and thought

well alr then

[north crown]

she's decent, tho she leans more into special support

[lime raven]

I should just use sycamore

Oh wait

[north crown]

worried he won't have enough bulk but... ig u can try him

[lime raven]

He has multiple enduring

[north crown]

... which will ruin quadq

[lime raven]

hm

nothings perfect man

[north crown]

so unless you got a flinch/sleep pair, 2nd sync presync ain't happening

[lime raven]

But

[north crown]

which you do have room for if u wanna do that

[lime raven]

I mean yeah

Ss cyrus

[north crown]

actually you proabbly don't have to touch obstruct if all you gotta tank is at max 5 moves

actaully yeah he's good

maybe bring kukui or something as a third to help

[old orchid]

You can use Leaf - Courtney - SS Gio

[north crown]

or actaully.. speed is more important for pairs like ssgio

[old orchid]

Leaf has one bar spam and her TM refills gauge

[north crown]

OH YEHA I FORGOT ABOUT COURTNEY 💀

[old orchid]

You dont care about quad queue much because SS Gio should destroy mid post sync

[north crown]

holdup his ssgio is only 1/5... so where the crit?

[lime raven]

piers

[old orchid]

Oh yeah mb

Piers should work

[north crown]

by any chance do you have cobalion?

[lime raven]

No

And no time to train him

This is as good as i can get

[north crown]

welp gl

[dark osprey]

Piers doesn't need to use his obstruct for the endures. He just needs like a TM refresh at the most. He's almost unkillable that way for shorter battles

plus gives gauge with the TM

just need to hope for the TM refresh though

[silver dirge]

Woo poison weak and dragon weak this week I've been waiting

[toxic cobalt]

I have bad memories of that Malva

But I do not remember the poison or dragon weak stages which seems a good sign

[silver dirge]

[dark osprey]

need to try out drasna i guess?

[toxic cobalt]

I definitely do not have Drasna

[old orchid]

The next CS reset is interesting for sure

[dark osprey]

ah not sure. just the poison & dragon weak seemed like an opportunity for Drasna

[lime raven]

Dude

I keep maxing out crit

Just for it to not crit

On sync

I HAVE 14 MINUTES BRUH

[keen jasper]

This is why you shouldn't do CS at the very last minute

[keen jasper]

-1 innate crit from sync, which means at +3 crit, you have an 80% chance to crit enemies and 20% chance to not

[verbal karma]

...yeah, he's 1/5

[trail smelt]

Everybody done?

Only less than 5 minutes left so y’all better be done lol

[devout sluice]

I’m just camping for CS reset.

[toxic cobalt]

You have a reset button there already!

[lime raven]

LETS FUCKING GO

[keen jasper]

Well, you finally made it at least

[sick inlet]

Who's doing cs before reset 💀

Damn talk about barely made it

[lime raven]

IM FUCKING HIM

damn dude

I was slammin my feet so hard

im so hyper rn

[sick inlet]

Well ask for his consent

[keen jasper]

Well, you still have the next one

[devout sluice]

Ready for the last week of September CS. Then I’ll have to wait for datamine to make teams again.

[keen jasper]

Which is coming in 2 minutes

[lime raven]

remind me to never do this late again please

For my own health

[sick inlet]

Next one in 2 mins

Do them now

[keen jasper]

#1009554906568462476 message

[sick inlet]

Since I am here before reset, do we know anything about what ridiculous things each stage has?

[lime raven]

Oh man

[keen jasper]

I think there was one time I did CS at the very last minute

[silver dirge]

You can reduce score if you're really struggling

But too late now ig

[lime raven]

lmao

i did it just in time

[toxic cobalt]

They got it! Hall of Fame!

[lime raven]

thats why im so stressed

[silver dirge]

Oh shoot I didn't see

Nicee

[sick inlet]

Bug stage
No
Stop it
I can't take it no more

[toxic cobalt]

Carry that stress into this week or something

[lime raven]

better now than never

i cant even type rn

[toxic cobalt]

At least the other types are easy

Just gotta tank that Lion

[keen jasper]

Let's see what the round parameters are

[silver dirge]

Field params surely

[swift swan]

updated

[lime raven]

Oh shit serena is back

[keen jasper]

Half sync, nice

[toxic cobalt]

Hmmm

Mixed week

[silver dirge]

Ooh I like it

[swift swan]

ooooh zerena is gonna love this half sync param

i wish i could give her the support cake immediately. i don't have enough

[toxic cobalt]

Pull her again

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmm, how do I 4k Siebold?

[fluid vessel]

the 2 best parameters

[keen jasper]

With only Burgh as my strongest DPS?

[fluid vessel]

permanent field and half sync

[lime raven]

Wait a minute

is zerena 2/5 good

cause if not i cant pull

[sick inlet]

Yooo Zerena getting Support Role
Noice noice
Does it become super bulky now in Full forme?

[keen jasper]

It still retains the same stats

[silver dirge]

257 Def 254 SpDef

826 HP

[lime raven]

Just double sync buff

[sick inlet]

No, it gets bulk with the role

[silver dirge]

No the cake does boost stats

[lime raven]

Wait really

[silver dirge]

Yeah

[lime raven]

so does say giving blue a strike cake boost his attack stats?

[silver dirge]

Support role buffs defensive, strike offensive etc

[sick inlet]

Striker role: Boosts atk and sp.atk
Support role: defenses and hp?
Tech: average across the board

[lime raven]

man

[sick inlet]

Dunno about field and sprint

[lime raven]

i think field is op

[silver dirge]

Wow Zerena can legitimately tank with the cake

Just have someone buff defenses a lil

[lime raven]

So she can play support?

Or nah

[sick inlet]

Yee she gets buffy now

Nah

[silver dirge]

Well no not really

[sick inlet]

Never a support

[silver dirge]

But funny nonetheless

[sick inlet]

Just off-tankish

[silver dirge]

NC Leaf can also tank pretti good w cake

She also debuffs their offenses

[sick inlet]

NC leaf can tank without no role

[swift swan]

NC Leaf can tank pretty good period

[silver dirge]

Tru

[swift swan]

i've tried NC Leaf/SS Red/Arcanine Blue for the memes

it was so fun and she tanked well

[lime raven]

i have 306/400 for nc leaf

Man shes the last one i need

[silver dirge]

I usually do NC Leaf, ss Hilda and SC steven with leaf as the tank

[sick inlet]

Never felt like I really wanna cake roll anyone like this before
Yikes

Dem stats

[lime raven]

That HP is crazy

[silver dirge]

Yeah pretty insane

[lime raven]

imagine in a kalos extreme battle

[sick inlet]

New Solos for Zerena in LG incomming

[zealous karma]

Same

[lime raven]

wait did serenas cake compatabilty just come out?

[sick inlet]

Oui

[keen jasper]

And that's without gear

[silver dirge]

With dragon gear this is almost 300 on both defenses and 600+ offenses bruh

[sick inlet]

Big bruh moment

[zealous karma]

And like 900 hp

What can’t she do

[silver dirge]

Insanity

[keen jasper]

So she has 643 offensive stats with gear

[lime raven]

would have been good to have this an hour ago 🙄

[keen jasper]

And that's without theme skills

[silver dirge]

[sick inlet]

Someone give me that cake quick

[keen jasper]

Lucas would give +24 along with the +30 from her self, so she has 697 offensive stats

[silver dirge]

[lime raven]

So when should the first cake rolls from the coins be coming in?

[silver dirge]

Big bruh

[keen jasper]

I missed 1 day from the daily region rotation, but eh

[lime raven]

I missed like 3

😭😭

[sick inlet]

I don't know exactly but if you're not using tickets to quicken the process, probably a little over a month or 2

[lime raven]

thats not that bad

[silver dirge]

I believe it was overall like 100 days

But you get one of each type

Wait maybe 50

[sick inlet]

Yee makes more sense

[lime raven]

I have

And 16 daily tickets

[keen jasper]

With SC Steven and Lucas

[silver dirge]

Me when 6 million

[lime raven]

What move level?

[keen jasper]

Actually wait, wrong build

That's her Thousand Waves DPS build that I did

[north crown]

@lime raven yooo want to PROPERLY PLAN for "this" week?

[lime raven]

hm

Lets check out what we got to work with

i should probably do special cs first though

And before that

Electric type event

I need serious help with that

[keen jasper]

Much better

Still with SC Steven and Lucas

[lime raven]

Dragon zone huh

[grim bison]

I was using Guzma against Siebold and I forgot about sentry x2

[verbal karma]

is Drasna or Siebold better for this week's R2 gimmick?

[north crown]

@lime raven yes

Wikstrom / Fire: Hilbert, SSRed, Blaine
Malva / Water: SSKris + Cyrus + Water DPS
Drasna / Dragon: Piers, Zerena, filler
Siebold / Bug: Hop, Bugsy, Noland (sentry x2 ..) Skyla, Alder, Sleep Unit
Diantha / Poison: Poison Stall, Ontype or Offtype

I saved up lots of wildcards, so you don't have to ever worry about getting stuck!

[keen jasper]

This time, Siebold is my most worried E4 that I have to 4k pts.

Past 2 weeks have been Wikstrom, now it's Siebold

[lime raven]

bro

i have zerena

i have alder

[verbal karma]

...actually, the better question would prolly be

[north crown]

.. I'll edit the list for those

[verbal karma]

Who's the least dangerous for this week's Kalos CS R4 gimmick?

[keen jasper]

I'd say Wikstrom since Silver with his power ups can burn him in hell

[verbal karma]

...oh...that presents a problem...

I already have Wikstrom planned for R3

[keen jasper]

Wikstrom is hella easy on R4

[verbal karma]

...damn, if Wikstrom is R4, then I no longer know who to pick for R3...

[keen jasper]

I guess Malva is easy too since water types are stacked

[lime raven]

dont even look at me i dont know what order to do them in

[north crown]

move levels for both mentioned limiteds?

[verbal karma]

Okay, R4 Malva, I can work with that, prolly

Actually, before I decide on R4 Malva

[keen jasper]

Do you have good water types is the question

[verbal karma]

Is Eusine good?

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[lime raven]

Zerena is 2 and alder is 1

[keen jasper]

His B Move is good

[lime raven]

oh woah

[verbal karma]

Okay, then I do

[lime raven]

maybe 3/5 is worth it then

[verbal karma]

I also have Archie as an alternative

[lime raven]

Lucky

[verbal karma]

...yeah, R4 Malva it is then

In that case, I just need to decide between R2 Drasna and R2 Siebold

And whoever is not picked for R2 will simply become the R1 pick

[keen jasper]

Siebold and Drasna are more vulnerable to debuffs from their respective multipliers

[verbal karma]

So where would the R2 gimmick be more beneficial? Drasna's Sp. Def debuffing or Siebold's Sp. Def debuffing?

Or does that also depend on who I have?

[keen jasper]

Do you have SS Brendan?

I think you do right?

[north crown]

@lime raven updated for u

[verbal karma]

Because if it does

[verbal karma]

Yeah

[keen jasper]

I think SS Brendan is made for dragon-weak Drasna

[lime raven]

Yoo nobody told me there was a new look for us in the pokemon masters day exchange

[verbal karma]

?????

[north crown]

do you have a better spdef debuffer than ssbrendan? (e.g: pdawn)

[keen jasper]

Anni Raihan with Mind Boggler 9

[fluid vessel]

well that should work

[keen jasper]

Well, it shouldn't because he needs to flinch

[lime raven]

alright

But i really should do electric type event first

I need more help with that

[north crown]

... "against a flinching, trapped, or confused enemy"

[keen jasper]

And how frequent can he proc flinch on Twister is the question

[fluid vessel]

just...trap

[keen jasper]

Or simply use SS Brendan

[north crown]

yeah I don't want to be deal with a 60% chance for countering a gimmick, especially in CS

Also what if Trin needs SSBreandna elsewhere?

[verbal karma]

I actually do have Pal!Dawn

[formal vigil]

How is pdawn better than ss Brendan ?

[north crown]

just for spdef debuffing power

[formal vigil]

Well ss Brendan guaranteed -2

[north crown]

pdawn guarantees that as well, with the addition of a chance to do an AOE debuff

which means all together, you can potentially get -6 spdef in value

[north crown]

If you got a crit buffer that has gauge support, you can run that Support, Zerena, PDawn instead of wasting away SSBrendan

[verbal karma]

...so R2 Drasna then?

[zealous karma]

Mega kick is so silly

[clever bronze]

I’m more of a ss kris nc serena and may guy myself

[toxic cobalt]

Water type mega kick!

[verbal karma]

Okay, I assume based on this advice, Drasna is better for R2?

[zealous karma]

Very valid!

[keen jasper]

I use CCalem, Cerena and LySSandre

[silver dirge]

Valid

[pseudo drum]

This is R4, I have done everything else 2.5k but here, Burgh just can't survive...

Burgh's grid

He can't take siebold's sync even at full hp

O and he's got cs2

[silver dirge]

Well of course, you've got so much strength and maximum offense

You need to go for less offensive params if you're going for post sync

[trail smelt]

Surprisingly the only death I got was Oleana

[sharp jasper]

I love Lati nuke.

[trail smelt]

All my bug units survived including Guzma

[pseudo drum]

Its post sync params

and some modifications

[silver dirge]

Post sync params with Atk 3 & 5?

That's no longer post sync

[pseudo drum]

Maybe I picked up some bad stuff..

[silver dirge]

Well you've got Strength 12 and Atk 9, so yeah there is no way Burgh survives that

Have a look at the pins for the recommended params for post sync

[toxic cobalt]

I feel Burgh has to presync I don't rate him as a post-syncer

[pseudo drum]

Siebold is going to cook bug dishes tonight..

[silver dirge]

I agree, I would recommend going for pre-sync

[pseudo drum]

I tried

With sync buff +2

Should he go first

?

[manic kiln]

Halfsync round so you’re not going to presync with burgh

[silver dirge]

Oh this is half sync?

[toxic cobalt]

ooooh

[pseudo drum]

Yep

[toxic cobalt]

it's always something

[pseudo drum]

R4

[toxic cobalt]

lol RIP burgh

[silver dirge]

Ah

Well that checks out

[pseudo drum]

..

[toxic cobalt]

What even is the bulkiest bug striker

[verbal karma]

Well, while I am waiting for an answer, I was finally able to try out my R2 Bruno idea

...sadly, it did NOT work out...so I guess I'll just go with a different team entirely

[left storm]

Alder? I guess?

[silver dirge]

R2 doesn't really matter, just go for whoever you'd like

[verbal karma]

I already chose Bruno for R2

[toxic cobalt]

I guess that's how he compensates for dropping his own stats

[silver dirge]

Ideally your team takes advantage of debuffs, that's all

[manic kiln]

Dps bug units all have low def stats

[verbal karma]

And I don't wanna change that

[manic kiln]

Probably have to offtype

[pseudo drum]

Maybe

[verbal karma]

Anyway, looks like I gotta off-type for R2 Bruno

[pseudo drum]

Well I didn't use any of my powerhouses yet anyway.

So should I do so?

[manic kiln]

Yes why not only the champ left

[pseudo drum]

True

[manic kiln]

And you can stall diantha if you want

[silver dirge]

Curious, what was said idea? Team?

[pseudo drum]

I plan on using Oleana AllisterGengar and some support on Diantha 2.5k

That k?

Anyone?

[silver dirge]

Sure, it sounds like it could work with the right support. Oleana is slow though so dunno bout gauges, I don't have her

[pseudo drum]

Sycamore sound good?

[silver dirge]

Er probably not, it'll take too long to get his buffs in

[pseudo drum]

Ok..

Anabel?

[silver dirge]

And Oleana would like +2 attack unless you've got Berserker on her grid

[pseudo drum]

She's 1 /5

[silver dirge]

Not Anabel, that'll slow your team down even more

[pseudo drum]

O yes, she got problem with guages

Then..

Who will do?

Btw I have already used Sabrina and Hilbert

And ClemontMagneton

[silver dirge]

Maybe Falkner, he'll finish off Alister and Oleana's buffs, but I don't know well he'll tank I haven't played the stage yet. And I don't think guages will work out here unless you time Allister's free move next

[pseudo drum]

I see

I can just spam Fly on Falkner

[silver dirge]

Fly will mess up your sync countdown

[pseudo drum]

True