Champion Stadium

[silver dirge]

Why not Drake instead?

He can also do spDef

[old orchid]

we just suggest some options, its up to you to use other

[grand trout]

I don't think tina can buff defenses as easily

[old orchid]

yeah Tina isnt as good as Drake or Marlon at buffing defense

[valid ivy]

im just questioning i didnt mean for that to sound obnoxious

mb

drake and who

[old orchid]

she has Charm but why not picking no stat reduc for free 100 pts

[grand trout]

Salamence

A 4 star unit

[cinder summit]

Drake & Salamence

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

None

[grand trout]

Also has move gauge

[valid ivy]

can only upgrade him to 125 still

[old orchid]

thats fine

[silver dirge]

Lol drake also has terrify 1 not that it'll make a huge difference but yeah

[grand trout]

Again doesn't matter

[lime raven]

Oh wait

Thats it

[grand trout]

You just need to buff defensds

[lime raven]

i have ss hop

[valid ivy]

alr

[silver dirge]

NC Hop?

[lime raven]

Am i fucking sumb

[valid ivy]

what if they attack turn 1

[lime raven]

I MEANT HAU

[old orchid]

thats fine

[lime raven]

ss hay

Hau

[old orchid]

you want to buff Defense asap

[lime raven]

Fairy zone

[grand trout]

You can just defog the zone away

If it bothers you that much

[lime raven]

I meant

as in

Power my moves up

[old orchid]

just defog it

or use another zone

[lime raven]

so no hau

[old orchid]

Hau has Fairy Zone to boost Fairy type tho?

[lime raven]

and more damage towards drasna

okay

no hau

[old orchid]

[lime raven]

wait

yeah no

[grand trout]

????

What's going on

[silver dirge]

I'm just confused now

[old orchid]

[grand trout]

So anyways

[lime raven]

wait

[grand trout]

@valid ivy how's it going

[lime raven]

im doing params

thats why

Oh and

What skill for val?

[valid ivy]

im close to beating it

should salamance be targeted first or sabrina

[silver dirge]

CS2

[lime raven]

2nd pick?

[silver dirge]

What?

Oh you mean 2nd and 3rd on your team?

[lime raven]

Yeah i got scammed

on skills

[silver dirge]

Oh

idk defense crush or something lol just leave it

[lime raven]

How bout rainbow cookie 10

Mgr

2

[old orchid]

its Critical Strike 2 or nothing

[lime raven]

Okay no skill

[old orchid]

and which Valerie?

[valid ivy]

i love it when im one moev 200 damage off :/

[silver dirge]

BP I'm pre sure (and hope)

[valid ivy]

wait does strike pairs take x3 damage apply to syncs

[old orchid]

OG is good with zone boost and EX support, so i just asked which one to give them advice on support

[old orchid]

yes

[lime raven]

Bp

[silver dirge]

did you mention you had summer marnie before btw?

[lime raven]

Yes

I have every marnie ever

[silver dirge]

Okay just go with BP Val for now

What are you bringing with her, and are you aiming post sync or pre sync?

[old orchid]

isnt Sum Marnie better than Valerie? what move level is her?

[lime raven]

whatever works

[silver dirge]

Move level 1

Here

[lime raven]

But shes 150

[old orchid]

they have Diantha

[lime raven]

And ex

[silver dirge]

I thought so too tbh, I suggested DIantha to begin with

[valid ivy]

ok did it

stage 4 now

for flint should i use rain team or abuse ss lyra team

[lime raven]

Just off the bat

[old orchid]

try first

[valid ivy]

ss kris cyrus and who

[old orchid]

we told you to use SS Hauearlier

[lime raven]

Wait really

I thought you said

Dont use ss hau

[old orchid]

[lime raven]

Mb

[old orchid]

you should have suspected if you thought i told you not to use him

because he has Fairy Zone

[silver dirge]

SS Hau + Diantha + Special Support would be my suggestion personally

[old orchid]

to boost Fairy type which is automatically good

[valid ivy]

who do i use for round 4 flint for special stadium

[silver dirge]

Try both your options and see how you fair

If you have Bianca and haven't used her yet, that's also a good option with another psychic damage dealer and special support

[valid ivy]

ive tried that before but i just didnt do enough damage

[silver dirge]

With Bianca?

[valid ivy]

yea

actually no

well yes

but also i didnt have enoug speed

[silver dirge]

[valid ivy]

i think thay was the main issue

[silver dirge]

What was your comp?

[valid ivy]

bianca mewtwo and i forgot

maybe ss kris

[silver dirge]

Is Gio powerboosted/EX'd

[valid ivy]

no

[silver dirge]

SS Kris + Bianca + WIll would make a great team. Low on guages, very powerful stored power damage. Let me test it out first

[valid ivy]

whos will

will and who

[keen jasper]

Will/Xatu

[cinder summit]

Will & Xatu

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

None

[valid ivy]

oh

[silver dirge]

Have you planned your team v Hop though yet? You might need terrain there

[old orchid]

or a Psychic dmg dealer

[valid ivy]

someone tell me how i got the grand prize on my very last roll

for the 160 ones

[old orchid]

because non boosted Giovanni is better than Will

[valid ivy]

yea

ss diantha sonia olivia

[keen jasper]

Hop does guaranteed AoE debuffs, so having Jasmine/Steelix is pretty good against him

[old orchid]

great, SS Diantha has Team Unbending

what move level is your Olivia?

[valid ivy]

3/5

i think

[keen jasper]

Exact

[old orchid]

okay that team is good

[keen jasper]

Nice

[silver dirge]

What move level is your SS Kris btw?

[valid ivy]

2/5

kris

[old orchid]

use Giovanni instead of Will then

[silver dirge]

Yeah

[valid ivy]

ss kris bianca gio

?

i tried it before and it didnt work

no gauges

ill try again tho

[silver dirge]

Can pick up Team Swift reaction and racing rain if you're struggling with guages

[valid ivy]

i did

im not sure ab racing rain but i did pick up the first

[old orchid]

Racing Rain has significant impact

if you have some orbs to spare, grid Bianca with Precognition

[valid ivy]

i can get some orbs from lodge

[lime raven]

Hm

Im having trouble

im not doing enough damage to drasna with marnie

[valid ivy]

also bianca is levle 130

[old orchid]

level higher than 120 is good enough

[valid ivy]

and 1/5

[old orchid]

what params are you using

[old orchid]

thats fine too, altho you cant grid Precognition

[valid ivy]

i have racing rain for kris grid

[old orchid]

you can pick some free params like no status / interference immunity, sync buff up

[valid ivy]

i assume i go presync for flint?

[old orchid]

yes

[silver dirge]

I gave it a shot with will since my gio is powerboosted and you should definitely do more than enough damage, guages weren't an issue either

[valid ivy]

ok i definitely have some kind of skill issue

i first tried it the second time around

[silver dirge]

My kris is 3/5 but definitely not needed

this is r1, you won't need to reset rain/terrain since you're on r4

[valid ivy]

bruh i was like 3 damage off

[lime raven]

i cant beat drasna

[old orchid]

what went wrong

[lime raven]

i think i messed up my params

and marnie

i think hau needs to go

[silver dirge]

What was your team, what went wrong in-game?

[pseudo drum]

I used Palmer for Normal Zone and GoodGameIdiot to def-6the centre and weaken the sides. Then used BP Valerie to kill all while Sycamore tanked

[lime raven]

so i tried hau marnie and hop

And hau marnie and sycamore

[old orchid]

try Hau + Diantha + a special support

[pseudo drum]

Sycamore will do

[lime raven]

i guess i have enough spare resources to ex diantha

[old orchid]

Diantha doesnt need EX, but she wants to sync first

[lime raven]

Yeah

I have 129

Power ups

[silver dirge]

Just try it first

[north crown]

@lime raven update on your progress? I just skim read this channel

[lime raven]

on this?

[old orchid]

they are literally telling us tho

[silver dirge]

[lime raven]

Diantha is 2/5

[old orchid]

doesnt matter much

[north crown]

ah SSHau will carry yeha

lemme check his kit rq

[lime raven]

hau is 1/5

[old orchid]

that also doesnt matter

[valid ivy]

i keep on being just barely off killing hop

[old orchid]

his job is setting zone

[old orchid]

what params are you using

[lime raven]

shes cs1 😭😭😭

Diantha

[silver dirge]

Cs1 is fine

[valid ivy]

lol i also have cs1 because i rolled it instead of cs2 literally 7 times in a row

[north crown]

@lime raven Since you are able to spam screenshots here, would you mind sending your support roster here?

[lime raven]

Okay

[valid ivy]

olivia ssdiantha sonia team

i tried syncing with both sonia and diantha first

neither worked

im always a single move off

[north crown]

... first of all, why are you using Sonia and Diantha together??

[valid ivy]

ss

[old orchid]

the params are fine, did Hop spam too many Mega Kick?

[old orchid]

to support Olivia?

[valid ivy]

yes but in a run where he didnt i still was one move off

[lime raven]

Yk ive never used ss dawn

[north crown]

luclon specified the ss variant so yeah it's all cleared up

[valid ivy]

after he syncs he kills my entire team

then i diantha sync and nuke for 11k

and b diamond storm

and im one b move off

[old orchid]

what move level is your SS Diantha?

[valid ivy]

1

i plan to raise her to 3 tho

i could candy her rn

i plan to do it anyway

[old orchid]

you can replace a strength param with a HP one

[north crown]

LMAO SSBRENDAN IS RIGHT THERE
use him.

[lime raven]

ss brendan always saving the day huh

[valid ivy]

wouldnt that be worse

[north crown]

If you want to have first sync with Diantha, an alternative could be SCLillie

[lime raven]

wait what

[old orchid]

oh yeah, but you can reset again

[lime raven]

Oh yeah i have her too huh

[north crown]

iirc they both buff spatk and crit

[valid ivy]

honestly i think im just gonna cave and give ss diantha 2/5

i plan to give her 3/5 anyway

[north crown]

and both of them are stupidly bulky too

[valid ivy]

since she becomes so broken

[silver dirge]

SS Brendan may not be the best option with Diantha though. Diantha is heavy on guages, so you'd want SS Brendan to be Mega'd for Freevenge 9 - but Diantha wants first sync. But can always see how you go and adjust if it doesn't work

[lime raven]

Lillie can restore ho

Hp

[keen jasper]

SS Diantha, not OG

[north crown]

SSHau BMove.

[north crown]

I'm helping joe w/ that statement, not luclon

[silver dirge]

Mm true it could work out

[keen jasper]

Ah ok

[silver dirge]

2 diff people I believe

[keen jasper]

This convo is becoming confusing NGL

[lime raven]

off the bat

[valid ivy]

wait 2/5 diantha iteraly doesnt help

[lime raven]

How solid does this look

[valid ivy]

she gains like no tiles

[lime raven]

Lmao

[old orchid]

thats why i said you shouldnt candy to 2/5, wait for 3/5

this applies to most pairs

[valid ivy]

you did?

where

mb i didnt see

[silver dirge]

Good, try it. Just checking you're triple queuing and everything right?

[old orchid]

literally above

[lime raven]

Well

[valid ivy]

im giving her 3/5 anyway tho

[lime raven]

I kinda cleared my params

[old orchid]

wait it says sending not successful

[lime raven]

I kept changing them

[keen jasper]

Make SS Hau as 2nd target

[north crown]

solid. I'm just worried that you won't be able to use 2 syncs before the opponent uses 1. You may need to use post sync params....

[lime raven]

Better safe than sorry

Post sync

It is

[silver dirge]

Diantha has propulsion, no? Just need to proc one of them

[lime raven]

Okay

Pre sync

[keen jasper]

5/5

[lime raven]

Nvm

[silver dirge]

As a passive

[north crown]

casual players don't really want to rely on rng for a successful run, so I suggested otherwise

[lime raven]

well

[keen jasper]

Very low chance

[silver dirge]

Fair

[lime raven]

why do i always do cs when its about to end

[silver dirge]

Is that Dauntless and quick cure?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[silver dirge]

interesting

[old orchid]

Diantha can be left ungridded

[lime raven]

Idk

[old orchid]

but oh well

[keen jasper]

Grid Diantha's On a Roll

[valid ivy]

ok beat it

[north crown]

doesn't Diantha get something at 2/5?

[keen jasper]

OaR 1 and Speedy Entry 1

[silver dirge]

Do we really need SpAtk debuffs though, if there's no multiplier From what I can remember

[old orchid]

yes but not worth getting them tbh

[lime raven]

boom

[north crown]

bro why did you fully grid a mid 2/5 grid?

[lime raven]

Because

why not

[silver dirge]

rip orbs

[north crown]

don't come crying when you run out of orbs then

[pseudo drum]

I used this team

[north crown]

ok seriously what the fuck is that?

[silver dirge]

That's not helping them if they don't have palmer

And also

[pseudo drum]

O

[lime raven]

oh yeah valerie is getting exd

nah im jk

i feel bad without any exs tho

[pseudo drum]

You may ex diantha

[north crown]

bro I was able to do 2.5k with 1/5 diantha non ex, it's fine

[lime raven]

Good idea

okay

[silver dirge]

You do not need to EX anything, don't give anti-resourceful advice

[pseudo drum]

Ok

[lime raven]

i need my power ups for electric type event

[pseudo drum]

Try focusing on supports

[north crown]

They alr did. They got Sycanmore, Rosa, SSBrendan, and uh some others i forgor

[pseudo drum]

They are helpful

[north crown]

swimisty ex

[lime raven]

I have her too

[north crown]

oh yeah you need more supp exes

[lime raven]

I do?

[pseudo drum]

Have you got ex sycamore

[north crown]

not enough to cover every pair's needs

[lime raven]

Yes

[pseudo drum]

Do it

Hes 5/5

[lime raven]

Probably more special defense

[north crown]

Thing is, idk is Sycamore would work well with Diantha + SSHau

[old orchid]

dont pair Sycamore with Diantha tho

both fight for first sync

[lime raven]

Rn i have brendan

[old orchid]

that team is already good

[pseudo drum]

Good

[silver dirge]

yeah, did you give it a try?

[north crown]

Maybe SCLillie might be better if she doesn't ruin quadq

idk

I'm just thinking about freevenge ruining quadq

[old orchid]

Brendan is better, no need to change

[lime raven]

No parameters

[pseudo drum]

Brendan is better than sycamore

[old orchid]

and that team goes for post sync anyway

[silver dirge]

post sync on type

[lime raven]

Am i supposed to look at the first link or second link

[north crown]

yeah post sync options was what I suggested a bit ago

[pseudo drum]

Just think abt that dragon rush and dragon pulse

[silver dirge]

Either is fine

[lime raven]

Its

[old orchid]

the second link only includes 2.5k params

[lime raven]

whats the point of that

[silver dirge]

Some people may want to run less than 2.5k, which is included in the first link

For those going for 2.5k, second link is less convoluted/image format

[lime raven]

Alright

Everything is ready

Wait

So who syncs first?

[north crown]

Honestly could be either or; imo, I would still advise syncing with SSBrendan cuz of the usual supp ex buff, his mega passives and bulk.

[silver dirge]

Fairy Power 5 on Diantha + Stats from Mega is more overall buff than support EX

[north crown]

but syncing twice under supp ex buff is better no?

ik her raw moonblast dps is good, but

[silver dirge]

If can guarantee 2nd sync, sure

but like sync isn't going to do a lot anyway since no sync multipliers, so might be better to get as much DPS in as possible on mid

[north crown]

k then ig Diantha first

forgot fairy power 5 was a thing

[lime raven]

Wait so

[left storm]

+20 hp +4 Def Palmer on 28k hp...

[lime raven]

Oh alr

[left storm]

SC Steven really is a stupid unit

[lime raven]

good or bad?

[old orchid]

always sync with Diantha first

[lime raven]

Mega huh

[left storm]

Yeah

With diantha always sync first

She can't output good damage if you don't

Support ex is op because it greatly enhances damage

But diantha needs first sync to do so

[left storm]

@plush tangle 🤝

[silver dirge]

SC Steven my beloved

[left storm]

I hate the outfit

[lime raven]

Wait so

[left storm]

But the fucking absurd utility it gives is...

[lime raven]

Whos second sync

[silver dirge]

Same, and the pokemon for me sucks but amazing unit

[silver dirge]

Diantha both times

[left storm]

I don't regret the 3k paids

Since this way there's no SC I'm remotely interested in

Left

Hopefully it stays this way for long

[lime raven]

welp

I died

[old orchid]

what went wrong?

[left storm]

Tho with this I finally finished the 18k from may 2022 so I'll have to buy the bundle from now on if I wanna select

[lime raven]

I didnt do enough damage

[left storm]

Who are you using with diantha

[old orchid]

even with post sync params?

[lime raven]

Ss hau

[lime raven]

Yeah

[left storm]

Who as support?

[old orchid]

please record your gameplay

[lime raven]

This team isnt very gauge friendly

[left storm]

SS hau, diantha and?

[old orchid]

use Hau's B Move thrice

SS Brendan

1/5 tho

[lime raven]

So first b move then gleam?

[lime raven]

3/5

[old orchid]

no need to ping me

dont touch Dazzling Gleam

[lime raven]

Wait really

Thats what i was spamming

[old orchid]

we already told you about that

read his B Move effects

[calm marsh]

Wow, i just wake up and still not pass Drasna

[old orchid]

[lime raven]

Woah i never saw the speed boost for us

[left storm]

Buddy moves are ygo cards

Always read them

[lime raven]

Yeah but what about after 3 times

[old orchid]

its up to you, either DG or B Move is fine

just remember to use zone to replace Dragon Zone

[lime raven]

Alright lets try this again

ehhh

Im doing everything right

[old orchid]

what grid does Brendan have? and did Drasna use Dragon Rush?

[left storm]

The fact I won Vs drasna with og Valerie in a f2p friendly team tells me your grids or parameters must be wrong somewhere

[old orchid]

its the post sync params

[lime raven]

Yea

hold up

[old orchid]

show us your Brendan's grid

and reset when she uses Dragon Rush

[old orchid]

remove Adrenaline

and pick Potion MH

sync with him as the second sync (Diantha uses first sync)

[lime raven]

Alr

why does this lady like using dragon rush so much

damnit

[silver dirge]

Are you using Dazzling Gleam or Moonblast for DPS?

[lime raven]

i only used dazzling gleam when i couldnt wait for a moonblast

[silver dirge]

Ah okay just making sure

[lime raven]

i should ex diantha bro

[silver dirge]

For that scenario in the ss above, an EX Diantha wouldn't have helped since you don't have any sync multipliers. Sure, AoE, so they'd have a little less HP, but you still need to get a 2nd sync in. Work on that first

[calm marsh]

@lime raven you can try Darach

[pseudo drum]

My team was semi f2p with Sycamore&Xerneas, BPValerie and Palmer&Regigigas(for weakening the sides and def-6 the centre)

You could also try non ex BP Valerie

She was fine

[pseudo drum]

I used Palmer for Normal Zone also, but you have SS Hau, an even better unit you should wreck havoc with fairy zone

[old orchid]

how do you know if they have Palmer or not?

[pseudo drum]

Thats why

I said abt Hau

[old orchid]

they have been recommended with better teams already

[pseudo drum]

Hope that works out

👍🏻

[calm marsh]

I used this team bc i know he already has 2/5 Diantha and 3/5 SS Brendan

And Darach much safer than SS Hau bc atk drop

And crit shield too, more point

[pseudo drum]

Things seem doable,
I suppose

favourable

👍🏻

[calm marsh]

Nah, it easy if you know what are you doing

I even give wrong cookie

[pseudo drum]

Wow

Good carrier

Indeed

Seems like I should take my leave,
Farewell

[silver dirge]

[lime raven]

Sorry im back now

Wait but

[safe monolith]

I'm trying to find a 2500 preset that would work with this team?

It's off type and I'm using 2 nongrided 1/5 units, so it's naturally quite hard

[left storm]

You COULD run hs1 Skyla and do R1 for a one cycle sync and see from there

[safe monolith]

do what what what

what is hs1 and r1

[left storm]

Head start 1 and round 1 (faster sync)

Halved sync is 5 so blue + another head start is sync turn 1

Ah but proton is non exed...

[safe monolith]

yeah sadly

and blue's nuke is not enough

i could do round 1 again but im currently on round 2 for context

i could probably just run stall and save this team for round 3 or something..

[left storm]

Flint is easily the hardest of the 4 stages

[safe monolith]

ahh

no wonder he has the part 1 title

even at his first form he's too strong

[manic kiln]

it's doable but this is round 4

and need some flinch luck

[safe monolith]

at 1/5 each?

[manic kiln]

yeah

[safe monolith]

interesting

[manic kiln]

and my blue is not ex

[safe monolith]

good to know ! what presets were you using?

[manic kiln]

mostly str

• str 6

reset if they spam fire blast or proton got burn

[safe monolith]

thanks !

[trail smelt]

Final Kalos next reset woo

[manic kiln]

and then back to unova

[weak sleet]

For Drasna this week, is galarian rapidash or Diantha better? I have ss wally with zone to help strengthen them.

[silver dirge]

Either or is fine, I've cleared with both this week. But it's worth noting that if you ignore Wally's sync, then Diantha's mega still unlocks his B move

[weak sleet]

Oh that's good to know

[left storm]

Both are fine

Rapidash is faster, diantha gives you Phys resist 8

[weak sleet]

I assume I want to sync to mega evolve, not an ex support first right?

[silver dirge]

Yeah

Lisia will appreciate an EX buffed sync, but if you want to unlock Wally's b move for rebuff then that support needs to be a Mega

H!Jasmine, SS Blue etc

[weak sleet]

Awesome thank you!

[verbal karma]

...my team against R2 Bruno isn't working out 😦

[mellow linden]

I can’t say I recommend a combination of Rosa + Lyra as the Supports

[calm marsh]

I think you better off type

[mellow linden]

I’m gonna tell ya, Bruno does not require Paralysis at all, there’s no need to use Calem if you have better options

[halcyon sail]

Interesting team composition

[verbal karma]

I mean, they both Calem's Sp. Atk and Crit...and were also supposed to debuff Bruno's Sp. Def...too bad they refuse to do the latter

Calem also very VERY consistently refuses to make his sync attack crit, despite having his crit fully buffed

[halcyon sail]

2 supports + a tech with no dps and weak nuke

[low linden]

There's a better psychic called mewtwo

[verbal karma]

I already used Mewtwo

[left storm]

Tate*
Will*
Bianca*

[low linden]

Thanks

[mellow linden]

There’s better options for Sp. Atk. + crit Supports

[calm marsh]

Mew is ok with calem

[low linden]

Use another psychic that can actually dps

[calm marsh]

Free dirty fighting

[low linden]

I think I've said this before alr but sometimes the "recommended" in CS can be ignored

[verbal karma]

I mean I need Calem to crit his sync first since he doesn't even do that

3 sync attacks in a row, and not a single crit

[mellow linden]

What are your other Psychic damage-dealer options?

[halcyon sail]

Just avoid Calem, he is not a good pair

[verbal karma]

...but what if I want to use Calem?

[mellow linden]

If you wanna use Calem for favoritism reasons that’s one thing, but if you’re just trying to get a clear then you probably have other options

[calm marsh]

Use with Oak Mew

[old orchid]

[verbal karma]

Who does Oak replace? Rosa?

[low linden]

Do u want a clear or want a clear with calem?

[mellow linden]

Revamp the entire team if using Oak + Calem

[low linden]

If u just want a clear swap out calem it's not helping u

[calm marsh]

I mean, any SpA Buffer

[mellow linden]

Would need a Sp. Atk. + crit buffer who can max both stats (or at least +4 Sp. Atk. and +3 crit) for both of them

[calm marsh]

Oak can tank very well if you need

Round 2 i use Oak as a tank

[low linden]

U can also offtype if u have someone like ash, sst red etc

U don't have to go full psychic

[verbal karma]

Okay, 5 sync attacks in a row, and Calem still never critted any of them 😦

How does that even happen?

[mellow linden]

Assuming +3 crit it’s a 20% chance. Unlucky, but it happens

[verbal karma]

It is +3 crit

[keen jasper]

Then yeah, major bad luck

[manic kiln]

also his sync is trash even with crit it's not doing much and 2/5

[mellow linden]

Eh, if it’s for favoritism purposes then Calem’s fine, just need to make team adjustments to better enable him assuming no changes have been made yet

[keen jasper]

I can show you my unconventional teams for this special CS

My only limited unit is SS Steven

[mellow linden]

Depending on the damage-dealer options it may be better to run Calem as a utility option though

[manic kiln]

yeah sure but you need heavy support with premium units to buff faster so you have more time doing dmg, or pair him with another dps

[silver dirge]

this is a very interesting team comp

[verbal karma]

Welp, critted sync really does hit weak, sadly...also doesn't help that Calem can't survive enemy sync even after both of my EX supports have synced

So neither pre nor post sync works for him

[mellow linden]

Sync buff doesn’t boost defenses

It wouldn’t matter whether both your Supports Synced

[verbal karma]

...they...don't?

[mellow linden]

The Sync buff is a stackable +50% damage buff

[verbal karma]

I thought the sync buff was a general strength buff

[silver dirge]

Also Calem only has access to his innate nuke at 2/5, no grid nodes for sync

[mellow linden]

Nope, just damage

[silver dirge]

If you really want to use calem, pair him with a good special support and secondary damage dealer

[mellow linden]

Anyway, might wanna consider just slapping Bianca on the team, running a single dedicated Sp. Atk. + crit Support, and calling it a day. Can even move it to round 4 if you wanna take advantage of perma field effects

[verbal karma]

I mean...I guess I could replace Calem, but...the replacement should be someone who doesn't rely on Psychic Terrain

I wanna save them for later

[mellow linden]

Eh, if you’re using Calem because he’s a fave you can make him work with team adjustments

[silver dirge]

Is your only access to psychic terrain via Bianca?

[verbal karma]

...eh...I just really wanted to use Calem's paralysis

[mellow linden]

…

[old orchid]

[verbal karma]

Nope, I have 3 of them

[calm marsh]

[mellow linden]

So you made things harder to shoehorn in round parameters

[silver dirge]

[verbal karma]

Would you have preffered if I lied about him being a fave?

[mellow linden]

If you’re dead-set on using the round parameter use someone who only needs 1 Support and use your C. Elesa as the 3rd team member

[calm marsh]

Why y want this so badly ?

[verbal karma]

Because the game itself tells me

[silver dirge]

Wait, just tryna understand, are you trying to get benefit out of paralysis so they aren't able to attack more often?

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

The in-game recommendations should always be taken with a grain of salt

[keen jasper]

You don't have to follow game advice

Like

[mellow linden]

The only reason Bruno has Paralysis reocmmended is because he has reduced resistance to it. Bruno does not have any gimmicks that require Paralysis to shut down.

[manic kiln]

.

[old orchid]

even with the boosted chance it doesnt help much tho, might be easier to deal with sides and thats it

[silver dirge]

Yep, that was my follow through

[mellow linden]

Anyway, this

[calm marsh]

If you want that para so badly, use another dmg dealer benefit from it

[keen jasper]

Have you at least tried the fight?

[silver dirge]

Like going with a poison team who has poison multipliers for example ^^

[verbal karma]

I mean, I just did...and I can see why the game wants me to paralyze him

[old orchid]

and dont waste people's time just because of your stubbornness

[keen jasper]

Have you tried different approaches?

[verbal karma]

Because some of Bruno's moves and even the side's moves hit extremely hard

[silver dirge]

Bump ^

Sorry ping 😔

[verbal karma]

Paralysis would prevent those moves

[calm marsh]

Not that much

[left storm]

Well that applies to every stage that doesn't have Lithe

Because if they get full para'd they'll never attack... too bad that will rarely happen

[mellow linden]

That’s just a “reset the fight if they go full offense” situation

[old orchid]

[keen jasper]

So you'd rather rely on chance?

[verbal karma]

I...don't know tbh...

[manic kiln]

if you take ingame advices too seriously might as well use optimize team to clear

[calm marsh]

[keen jasper]

See, you yourself don't even know what you want right now

[mellow linden]

I don’t think I’ve used Paralysis against Psychic weak Bruno a single time he’s shown up, tbh

He’s a very straightforward fight

[verbal karma]

I only know I wanna save my 3 Psychic Terrain users for R3-5 respecticely

[silver dirge]

Look in the grand scheme of things, things like paralysis/confusion are not going to make much of a difference at all. You're much better off using em for actual multipliers

[calm marsh]

The only reason i use Calem is just for Oak’s Dirty Fighting

[halcyon sail]

I think I saw this exact argument a month or so ago here

[calm marsh]

He does nothing

[keen jasper]

I can understand Hop, but the only Psychic Terrain setter I had is Bianca

ANd I still managed

[mellow linden]

I just SS Lusamine’d Hop

[keen jasper]

And my teams were hella unconventional except for Flint team

[silver dirge]

This chat never ceases to amaze me not gonna lie

[verbal karma]

That would mean I would need to make a team without LatiMay, Bianca or LeleLana

Probably might also have to save Caitlin for R3

[silver dirge]

You have damage dealers like Lear, why not just use them? They don't need terrain by a long shot

[mellow linden]

Anyway, if you must use Paralysis just do something like Olympia + Sp. Atk. Support + C. Elesa

[verbal karma]

True, I can just use Lear, thanks

Will try that

[calm marsh]

[silver dirge]

[old orchid]

[keen jasper]

Like, look at my teams here

Even tho some of my supports are powerful, besides SS Steven, my damage dealers aren't

[mellow linden]

Out of curiosity, was Tate there for Sync nuke or flinch?

[keen jasper]

Then what was the point of Caitlin there?

Says that while using her Hidden Power as DPS thinking it was Stored power

[formal vigil]

[calm marsh]

This is mine, mono psychic

[mellow linden]

Furious Brain 0-gauge Psychic would’ve been the reason to bring Caitlin if not Syncing with her

[formal vigil]

Why not both

[keen jasper]

Damn, what a whale

[mellow linden]

What did Hop do to you

[calm marsh]

Ah yes, Oak-Calem-Sabrina

[silver dirge]

Would like to take this opportunity to show off dps date

[old orchid]

#1053291896778264597 message just be me and use Calem as tank

[formal vigil]

[calm marsh]

His outfit hurt my eyes

[keen jasper]

Who needs support units when you have tech units?

[calm marsh]

I dont care CHop at all

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-hop-defeat-sad-wink-gif-17548951

[civic trellis]

Both outfit and pokemon were my least favorite, but I like them more now tbh

Articuno was my fav pokemon wise marnie my fav outfit wise

[left storm]

Based

[left storm]

Dollar store Marnie my beloved

[silver dirge]

🫡

[left storm]

Non crit 11k on reflect

[civic trellis]

Who?

[silver dirge]

#1153583498687414283 message

Also DPS Calem, a bit meh but it is a 2 bar move so

[left storm]

Her outfit is a generic 5€ used outfit from 2007

[left storm]

Which psybeam calem?

[silver dirge]

Correct

His sync is still decent just with the innate tbh

[civic trellis]

Ah

[toxic cobalt]

Oh man, the idea of using Tate for flinch

[left storm]

On round 2 he's nice

60%

[open copper]

i need big help beating fairy or rock on round 3 and 4 with 2.5k points

i need help with team and what mods to choose

big please🙏

[zealous karma]

There’s parameter recommendations in pins and do you know how to team build?

[open copper]

kinda, but ive tried so many combos now and none worked

[zealous karma]

Can you take a screenshot of the teams you were using?

[open copper]

it was on monday i dont remember every team

but mainly ny lisia and then some supps to buff her

atk crit and spdef

[zealous karma]

NyLisia should have an easy time against the stage and that support does seem fine, instead of a SpDef support I’d recommend a defense debuffer, but since I sssume this is round one I wouldn’t do drasna that early

[open copper]

.

[zealous karma]

Oh my apologies

Olivia Raihan + hilbert should be an easy clear vs Malva and NyLisia + HoliJasmine + SCDiantha should be an easy clear vs drasna

[open copper]

i already used hilbert😿

[zealous karma]

That makes things a little difficult

[silver dirge]

Sonia?

Ah 1/5 nvm

[zealous karma]

I would normally recommend hop but he’s weak to fire and Malva hits hard

[formal vigil]

aaron?

[zealous karma]

He’s only 1/5 but I’m not sure on his tanking capability maybe replace raihan with Acerola for flinches than

[formal vigil]

aaron tanks pretty well

[nocturne pawn]

if you’re running aaron olivia has to grid for amped up 2

otherwise its not gonna be maxed efficiently

[toxic cobalt]

Any luck? Round 4 is a simple stall so you just need to find a way around one or the other for round 3.

I agree NYLisia probably the best bet. (Unless you just stall both which is also an option.)

[open copper]

shes just not doing enaugh dmg

and i cant quad que

[nocturne pawn]

what parameters did you pick

that sounds very bizarre since ny lisia is the best fairy dps

[open copper]

on type pre

[nocturne pawn]

can you screenshot them please

[silver dirge]

Yeah NY Lisia should breeze through

[open copper]

second

[silver dirge]

Did you swap out Phyiscal Damage Reduction for Special?

[open copper]

yes

[silver dirge]

Hmm, are you at least close to finishing off mid or whatever?

[open copper]

no xd

ill record

giuve me a sec

[silver dirge]

Np

[toxic cobalt]

Weird, can just run say Skyla for speed and a sleep bot

Even without that I feel she should clear

[open copper]

i dont have discord nitro i cant upload

give me a sec ill upload on google

https://photos.app.goo.gl/mxokJGtmF4mF4RhW9

[silver dirge]

There's some sort of damage reduction on. That first Giga Impact shouldn't have done 2k

[open copper]

i know i could start with diance to drop def faster but i dont think it would make much diference

[toxic cobalt]

Please screenshot or record your parameters

[open copper]

i literally have these

second column

[toxic cobalt]

Sadly video doesn’t work for me but you can also compress recording so they’re discord compatible

[silver dirge]

And out of physical and special, which damage reduction do you have?

[open copper]

special

[silver dirge]

I'm going to replicate the same team, give me one second

[open copper]

How

[zealous karma]

I’d take off standard damage reduction and replace it with strength 3 it would make the sides actually die

[toxic cobalt]

Got it working. Weirdly low. Why is Diantha there?

[open copper]

someone said to put her there

[zealous karma]

She debuffs defense and offers good damage

But I meant SCDiantha, but SSDiantha works bether cause her debuffs are aoe

[open copper]

i already used sc diantha

[zealous karma]

Ohh

Ss works good too

[toxic cobalt]

Does Lisa need defence debuffs?

[zealous karma]

It helps increase her damage

[open copper]

btw its round 3

[zealous karma]

Found 3 is a good round

[open copper]

when i use strenght 3 instead of dmg reduction im dead after my 1st sync

[silver dirge]

Recorded a run it's uploading

[zealous karma]

whats killing you?

[toxic cobalt]

Looks like she is doing good damage after one sync, I’d remove Diantha for a sleeper or something

[open copper]

aoe

hyper voice

[zealous karma]

Oh

I dont think a sleeper is necessary here

[open copper]

and when dont use aoe ampharos is dead within 2 hits

[silver dirge]

This was my bad btw, was just a non-crit. But it's not a good idea to use your SEUN Giga Impact without maxing crit, I'd just waste a turn instead tbh

[silver dirge]

Lisia is completely ungridded here

[open copper]

wtf

[toxic cobalt]

Saving the super up is a good idea

[versed meteor]

I hate kalos

[toxic cobalt]

You hate Victory!

[zealous karma]

Idt Kalos is too bad of a CS nothing like hoenn

[keen jasper]

I was able to pre-sync Diantha at 4k pts., half-sync parameter with half HP parameter

SS Giovanni is the goat of ground types

[open copper]

its just not possible

im hitting for 8k max

i dont know what to do

what team should i do instead?

[silver dirge]

Are you saving the PMUNS and the SEUN like I did for post sync?

[zealous karma]

In the recording you sent it looked very doable to me you just needed one more sync can you show your params that seems like the issue to me

[open copper]

yes

[toxic cobalt]

I really reckon you should try replacing SSDiantha with Elio or something

[zealous karma]

That doesn’t seem like a good idea to me

[silver dirge]

It's worth a shot, but I'd also opt for SS Diantha or Kukui if you wanna save her for a later stage

[open copper]

i have 3/5 darkrai would that work?

[zealous karma]

Oh right they still have Malva to do

[zealous karma]

Yes darkrai would be ideal

[toxic cobalt]

Any sleep works, I just like sing users for the one bar

[fluid vessel]

I am fairly confident you can Just spam Dark Void until you win

With a speed buffer

[open copper]

and what modifiers should i use?

[fluid vessel]

Depends on the team

[open copper]

what would you recommend?

[toxic cobalt]

Same ones are fine just tweak to allow status

[open copper]

darkrai ny lisia and?

[fluid vessel]

Ah then is Drasna

[silver dirge]

Jasmine was fine there

[open copper]

i cant spam dark void

low speed

[fluid vessel]

That's why I said with a speed buffer

Spamming Dark Void is not really needed but is a way to cheese any stage

[open copper]

omg

omg

finally

darkrai ny lisia and sycamore

was the team

[silver dirge]

not the most conventional team, but hey if it does the job it does the job

[open copper]

now rock weak...

what team and params should i run?

[silver dirge]

SS Diantha, Olivia, Hilbert?

[open copper]

already used hiolbert

[zealous karma]

Hilbert will die very fast

[silver dirge]

Ooh also true I forgot bout Malva's sun

[zealous karma]

ssdiantha Acerola and Olivia might work

relying on acerolas flinch tho

[open copper]

omgggggggggggggggg

i love exynos💗💗💗💗💗

game totally doesnt crash every second 😍😍😍

[silver dirge]

I feel like that's sarcasm

Oop

[open copper]

blue sexy woman and diantha did the job

[paper summit]

let's behave a little, shall we?

[open copper]

whats the best parameter to choose for last round if i wanna run nidoking giovanny?

[keen jasper]

You can be like me and choose the YOLO parameters with half sync CD and -1 and -2 sync CD parameters

[keen jasper]

Is he 3/5?

[open copper]

yes

[keen jasper]

Do you have SS Morty and Courtney?

[open copper]

nvm, i just chose use sync moves and it was over in 3 turns

its so broken like

[keen jasper]

Well, Giovanni destroys any ground-weak stage even at higher pts. beyond 2.5k

[verbal karma]

damn, I am not winning with Lear either 😦

[keen jasper]

Even if I don't have him, that's pretty cap

[verbal karma]

...damn, 10 sync attacks in a row, and not a single one of them is critted by Lear

just what the hell is going on with this CS?!

[keen jasper]

+3 crit?

[silver dirge]

I feel like you may have accidentally picked up no crit param or something lol, or haven't maxed out crit

[verbal karma]

yup

+3 crit indeed

[keen jasper]

Then yeah, serious bad luck

Keep on trying

[verbal karma]

I did not pick the no crit param, I am 100% sure of it

[verbal karma]

man, the Hop CS has been nothing but bad luck so far...

[silver dirge]

Lol that's like a 1*10^-7 chance, just make sure there's not a factor you're not accounting for

[verbal karma]

at least with R2 Bruno

Anyway, just to prove I don't have Crit Defense

[keen jasper]

Then keep on trying until Lear crits his syncs

[manic kiln]

at this point we'll never know the problem unless we see how you play the stage there's rng to blame but it shouldn't be like this every week every time

like on paper the team should work and parameter should work but

[verbal karma]

...damn, now Lear actually critted his sync, and it hits like wet paper 😦

...is he just not good enough at 1/5?

[manic kiln]

did you clear their buffs

[verbal karma]

I did on his first sync attack, and it too hit like a wet paper

sadly, removing the enemy buffs before the second sync seems impossible due to enemy turn order

since every single action from Bruno buffs his everyone's accuracy

and I do mean every single action

...maybe Lear was a bad pick for R2 after all...

[silver dirge]

Lear should do enough at 1/5, Bruno is not bulky or defensive at all

Any chance you're able to record your gameplay so we can pinpoint what the problem may be?

If there's a gameplay issue, it would help for any future run you do too

[manic kiln]

you cut down 3 turns with lear you probably don't even need him to sync to kill mid, just ex support and spam his move

[silver dirge]

I just feel like there's a critical flaw somewhere if 2 syncs with Lear aren't enough to take them out too you know?

[verbal karma]

...oh...I don't have any EX supports in my Lear team

[manic kiln]

[silver dirge]

Bump

[manic kiln]

can't record tho so

[verbal karma]

for context, my team is Rachel/Lear/Sawyer

[manic kiln]

can you stop with the theme team or fav team if you don't know what you're doing, what is rachel even doing in this team

[devout sluice]

So you’re doing a Lear theme team I see

[verbal karma]

yup

I am a fan of that theme tbh

[silver dirge]

Running a themed team is cool and all, but only after you've assured that 1. your units are fully buffed + their multipliers and 2. the team actually has any synergy

[keen jasper]

That's cool and all, but only do theme-specific themes if you know what you're actually doing

[verbal karma]

I thought I knew what I am doing, but...I didn't take Bruno's "Precision Pals" into account

[keen jasper]

Because your theme team can have no synergy and it ruins your gameplay

[silver dirge]

No, that is the least of your troubles

[manic kiln]

like sure rachel and sawyer can buff part of lear stats but after that they're deadweight

[keen jasper]

Only do it when you know exactly what your doing

Like per se, turn denying someone

To gain more turns

[silver dirge]

I would recommend using objectively "good" teams first, getting the hang of them completely and learning all there is about the gimmicks/turn order/params/gameplay/everything else, experiment with them etc. Then move on to trying fun and themed runs when you can guarantee that you've got practice and knowledge of all the other basic factors there are

[versed meteor]

Gimmick, reduce special reduce evasion and fucking+2 head smash

Holi jasmine with best bulk in game taking fucking 600 at max defence

[manic kiln]

the only thing you can rely on if playing that team is praying for flinch from dark pulse and hope the sides use atk move so you can remove his stats, but at 1/5 Lear's sync won't 1 shot mid or anything esp without support sync, it'll do ~10k

[silver dirge]

I have no idea what you're saying, is this just salt from a failed run?

[versed meteor]

No am just mad at kalos

Like hoenn the only difficult battles are fire weak glacia and i think its either bug or fighting sidney

But kalos its everyone not named malva

[nocturne pawn]

drasna was really never that hard for me but then again my teams are pretty whale

[keen jasper]

Drasna has 2 fights with poison and it's really annoying

[nocturne pawn]

if you post sync maybe

psychic has so many damage dealers that i feel like poison shouldnt really come up

so its only ice and toxic is the move before sync

[zealous karma]

OGDiantha can’t pre sync Drasna 3K crying

Well she can with irida but that’s cheating

[keen jasper]

Who's the 2nd strongest fairy sync nuker?

Before SS Wally

[nocturne pawn]

i feel like its bede

but idk

cuz i know summer marnie is worse

[verbal karma]

...I finally have a plan for R2 Bruno using my Lear theme team, and NOW the game decided to REALLY not cooperate with RNG

Yeah, no, this Hop CS is just cursed at this point

[halcyon sail]

Flint and Hop are the only challenging ones

the other 3 are free wins

[versed meteor]

Its hard for a psychic weak cs

[nocturne pawn]

?

[keen jasper]

How about try a proper team first before doing theme teams?

[nocturne pawn]

lol no it isnt

the other 3 fights are very simple unless you're toxic stalling kahili

[manic kiln]

3 of the stages are old stages

[nocturne pawn]

and flint's gimmick is just hitting hard

[versed meteor]

Yeh no i have 3/5 cbede and it was still a close one against hop

[nocturne pawn]

hop is the only real one with an actual gimmick being speed and defense debuffs and any impervious tank completely shuts it down

or even skyla

[versed meteor]

Mega kick does more on cbede than hyperbeam

[keen jasper]

Left side with Team Def. Crush tho

[nocturne pawn]

this sounds like too much offense

[keen jasper]

Hop's fight encourages you to use someone with Stat Reflection Screen on with perma field effects

[nocturne pawn]

does it

[silver dirge]

You should really try and onboard some advice everyone's been giving too, if you're dead-set on running a certain team then all the eligible help has already been given to you. Not much else anyone can do at this point

[nocturne pawn]

i thought lucian just already shits on him

[halcyon sail]

There are people here who beat these 2.5k fights with gimmicky duos, it's just a matter of knowing your skills

[nocturne pawn]

tbh i threw ss steven at chop

so like

it was a joke

but still i dont think hop is that bad

compared to marnie who can just make your life miserable if she spams too many brave birds early

[keen jasper]

I mean, Hop has Mega Kick to ruin your life

[nocturne pawn]

just lower accuracy

[keen jasper]

And it always still hits

[nocturne pawn]

well still brave bird is more threatening by virtue of being fully accurate anyway

im really surprised they didnt rerun ss steven for the psychic cs specially when downside up ruins any debuff gimmick

[fluid vessel]

Of course

[verbal karma]

...well, I want to at least be able to try my idea out...ya know, just to see if it even works

if it does not, then I will not try to force it any longer

[nocturne pawn]

lear should be able to do any of these fights especially if hes 3/5

[lime raven]

I dont know how many tries its been

She just likes to use dragon rush a lot

[left storm]

Palmer +20 hp drasna R2 done

Presync

[lime raven]

palmer seems op

i wish i could get him

but im currently pulling for leaf since shes the last anni pair from the 3 i need

[nocturne pawn]

that’s literally the exact team i use. aka parameter issue

[lime raven]

i have post sync on type

[nocturne pawn]

why would you post sync

diantha can easily do enough to pre sync

[lime raven]

Cause i got told to do post sync

[nocturne pawn]

by who

because this team can definitely pre sync

[lime raven]

i dunno cause diantha has cs1 not 2

[nocturne pawn]

that shouldnt be making that much of a difference

what parameters are you using

[nocturne pawn]

you took hp up

dont do that

[zealous karma]

It’s only Hp up 1 it barely makes a diff

[nocturne pawn]

bro on strength 12?

it definitely does

just take attack up 3

[zealous karma]

In my experience it rarely does

[nocturne pawn]

that should be better

[lime raven]

She still doesnt one shot

[zealous karma]

I play strength 12 a lot

[nocturne pawn]

shes not supposed to

she can do like

[zealous karma]

She One Shot my Brendan with DR as well

[nocturne pawn]

20k with a moonblast post mega

[lime raven]

what if i stalled her

is that possible

[nocturne pawn]

but she cant one shot

[zealous karma]

That might be easier

But you’d need a defogger

[nocturne pawn]

nah its def a param issue

because i cleared this fight with the exact same team

3/5 diantha hardly makes a difference

[zealous karma]

Diantha at 1/5 isn’t that good

Especially without ex

It really does make a difference

[lime raven]

shes 2/5

[zealous karma]

Minas better than zone diantha

[lime raven]

i can candy her rn

[zealous karma]

Or even bpValerie

[nocturne pawn]

nah thats insane cope

she is a dps unit her nuke was never good

[zealous karma]

Mina clears this stage much easier than diantha it was tested a lot

[nocturne pawn]

oh wait charm

right