Champion Stadium

[valid ivy]

Resets after tmr

In 2 resets

[twilit kiln]

so i still have one more

okie

[valid ivy]

Speaking of i cant seem to figure out ss lyra

They r supposed to never go right

[old orchid]

look like there isnt too many good options. how about Barry? can you candy him to 3/5?

[valid ivy]

Or only go when using tms

[old orchid]

oh right, im free rn

[twilit kiln]

i have no more candy sadly

[old orchid]

lets me record a gameplay of SS Lyra

[valid ivy]

Why candy?

Oh is he default 3

[old orchid]

Barry is only 1/5

[old orchid]

is your Zinnia invested?

[valid ivy]

Is he a default 3 or 4 atar

[valid ivy]

K ty

[old orchid]

3*

[valid ivy]

If u want to copy the team i use its ss erika hop ss lyra

[twilit kiln]

is zinnia rayquaza?

[old orchid]

yes

[twilit kiln]

no but i can level her

i dont have enough sync orbs for grid tho

also

if im using cyrus, i shouldnt be using zinnia too tho right?

cuz cyrus is sp atk

and zinnia is attk

so my param is going to be very awkward

[old orchid]

Zinnia has Draco Meteor, and her sync is also special (Draco Meteor)

[twilit kiln]

oh

[old orchid]

oh btw, do you have Lucian?

cuz Zinnia demands Dauntless lucky skill

[twilit kiln]

i cant grid zinnia tho

even after reset i wont be able to grid

[old orchid]

its fine, she has a multiplier at base

[twilit kiln]

cuz i only get 1600

ok

[old orchid]

[twilit kiln]

i have lucian but its 2/5

[old orchid]

thats good, he doesnt need dupes or grid

he just spams Growl

use him then

[twilit kiln]

so what should my team be?

ss kris lucian and zinnia?

[old orchid]

SS Kris Cyrus Lucian

Cyrus is fully gridded right? or at least Hydro Pump Ramming Speed is gridded?

[twilit kiln]

and this is for pre sync off type?

yea its full grided

[old orchid]

if you can quad queue, use this set

[twilit kiln]

i cant quad queue

only triple

[old orchid]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[old orchid]

altho quad queue with SS Kris is a bit awkward because she wants to use Rain Dance first turn, thus ruins quad queue

so post sync offtype then

[twilit kiln]

okie i will try

ty

[old orchid]

is your Hop EXed?

[twilit kiln]

Idk where it went wrong tbh

Should I not be rending for crit boost:

My ss Kris also dying so quick ;;

[old orchid]

reset when Flint uses Fire Blast then

[twilit kiln]

i think it just spams fire blast if i use growl cuz of attk down

cuz i just tried it again

and it spams fire blast

but when i didnt use lucian before, it used physical attack

like fire punch

[old orchid]

its all down to rng

there is no change to the enemies turn order if you change units

[valid ivy]

No

Lemme try flint using that team@after i beat champ hop

[old orchid]

do you an EX support who can help SS Erika?

because 2/5 SS Erika struggles to offtype without EX support

[valid ivy]

Brendan is for red team

Ignore the team i have rn thats for hop

[old orchid]

do you still need Lyra's gameplay? because the record got corrupted

[old orchid]

so you want to build a team for Flint rn?

[valid ivy]

Lol rip its fine

[old orchid]

oh okay

[valid ivy]

No i meant with the other dudes team

For normal stadium im on drasna stage 3

For special im on champ

[old orchid]

so this is for Drasna right?

[valid ivy]

Yea

[old orchid]

use the same SS Kris Cyrus Lucian team then

[valid ivy]

The team u gave me for the electric weak dude nearl works but i was one move off due to stage 3 not allowing qq

[valid ivy]

Used lucian w marnie already

[old orchid]

or Darach instead of Lucian to clear zone

[old orchid]

switch to post sync then

[valid ivy]

Wouldnt it just be easier to do that on stage 4

[old orchid]

it does help paralysis proccing more often, thats it. it doesnt matter much tho

[old orchid]

you can replace Attack up 3 with Strength 1

[valid ivy]

It doesn’t prevent qq which is why i lost

[old orchid]

you didnt get Power on Hit too

[proud axle]

Atk3 to Str1 should be less dangerous, yeah

[old orchid]

Max HP 8 is too much

[old orchid]

thats why i recommended post sync too

[twilit kiln]

this is the off type post sync tho

from the pin

what do i replace max hp 8 with then

cuz its 400 points

[valid ivy]

I mean that probably would work but why not j clear drasna first

Does stage 4 help drasna or smt?

[old orchid]

no it doesnt

[valid ivy]

I meant help me clear drasna

[old orchid]

[old orchid]

lemme think a bit. you can nuke with Lucian btw

[valid ivy]

So wouldnt stage 4 be better for siebold anyway

[twilit kiln]

do i need to sync with lucian?

[old orchid]

sync with him after Kris', because he is ontype and his nuke is a solid at base

[twilit kiln]

it doesnt withstand sync damage

[old orchid]

thats up to u, because it doesnt matter much anyway

[twilit kiln]

idk if i can sync twice before enemy sync

[old orchid]

you can delay using Rain Dance to the second turn, use Mini Potion all first to heal (because im going to suggest you using Ally HP down at the start)

what move level is your Kriss?

[twilit kiln]

its 3/5

how do i delay by using rain dance

oh use rain dance second turn instead of first?

[old orchid]

yes

[twilit kiln]

even if i use ally hp down, i still need to fill 200

[old orchid]

i picked Ally Healing down and Max HP 2

if you dont like ally healing down, try Max HP 4 instead

[twilit kiln]

if i pick ally healing down, it wont be healing much

[old orchid]

my strat is taking all KriSS' potion tiles

[twilit kiln]

maybe i just add interference immunity and tech damage taken +

for extr 100

[old orchid]

dont pick tech dmg taken, it will destroy Lucian, you still need him to take down sides

you can pick atk up 1, tho still be careful with Fire Blast

[twilit kiln]

att up 1 is already picked

[old orchid]

oh yeah mb

so do you still like ally healing down or not?

[twilit kiln]

maybe i just add def 1

ally healing down will destroy kris' hp

it was healing so much less before when i had ally healing down

[old orchid]

lets me list my param options:

2 shields
Atk up 1
Both status and interference immunity
Max HP 2 and 4
Power on Hit 1 and 2
Physical reduc
Gradual heal
Ally Hp down at start
Strength 3 and 6
-2 gauge bar

you can replace max hp 2 with strength for less bulk but a bit more dangerous

[twilit kiln]

ok i will try with this

Kris just dies

At full health

[old orchid]

reset when Flint uses Fire Blast

its rough

well if this team keeps failing we will make another team

[twilit kiln]

lucian keeps dying anyways

its so bad

idk why ppl say its a good nuker when it needs to sync on the second time\

but i cant even get second sync

smh

[old orchid]

how about removing strength and atk params and fully focus on HP ones?

idk if this is a good idea tbh

do you still have other Psychic types? and what round are you on?

[twilit kiln]

im on round 4

honestly speaking tho

they made getting 12.5k too ahrd

[old orchid]

ah round 4, perfectly for stalling

[twilit kiln]

they need to make it easier

just keep in mind that i have no sync orbs

cuz people keep suggesting me teams that they have no tried yet

telling me to grid them

[old orchid]

thats mostly because of Flint being too hard

[twilit kiln]

and then becomes so useless ;;

even this rain team

they havent tried it with flint

[old orchid]

if you use the same parameters on Kanto/Johto/Unova/Alola stages it will be a lot easier

[twilit kiln]

told me to build it

and then now i need a new team

im getting so frustrated

[old orchid]

yeah this is another problem cant help much with it tho

if you cant do 2k5, reduce the points then

[twilit kiln]

im so out of gems that i had to spend irl money to buy gems to buy stamina so i can get mats for levelling and etc.

i already got 2.5k on 3 of them

[old orchid]

you shouldnt buy stamina

[twilit kiln]

i cant get all the limited mats from events if i dont buy stamina

[old orchid]

they are timed gated stuff tho, buying stamina hurts your saving

and you want to use gems to scout new units

[old orchid]

thats already impressive for a newcomer like you

[twilit kiln]

yes and i spent $570

and $20 of it was solely for mats for this champion stadium

if i quit now on getting 12.5

i might as well just move on to a diff game xP

[old orchid]

thats a lot, tho im not the one who tells people how to use their money properly

[twilit kiln]

it just means that this game is so time gated that it will take too much of my life to get to enjoy the game the way i want

my genshin account is so stacked and honestly i enjoyed it on the first day because nothing really is time gated hard enough for it to destroy my enjoyment

but like this game is getting on my nerves

[pseudo drum]

strategy games require strategizing

[twilit kiln]

not really lol

if i have money i can bypass in 95% of games

this game just that lower 5 percentile

it is what it is

[pseudo drum]

Indeed

[twilit kiln]

classic pokemon games

[pseudo drum]

Tough

[twilit kiln]

every pokemon game like this

[pseudo drum]

You may try your money at something other than this strategy game
Everything doesn't have the fortune to be applicable for everybody

Farewell
I have somewhere to be

[twilit kiln]

i cant think of one game that lasted 10+ years without having ppl to spend money for things that ppl complain about

even pokemon official games changed their ways

with dlc

league skins became so much more expensive

maplestory is literally wallet opening game

if this game wants to last longer, they would have to start changing their ways

because their competitors like genshin are moving forward

and starrail

im not spending more money on this game anymore cuz i just realized its worthless to spend money

transaction efficiency is so low

and everything is time gated very hard

the world is moving too fast for this game apparently

it is what it is

[keen jasper]

What the hell is happening here

[steel kelp]

No one cares about genshin

[manic kiln]

you're rushing content for a relatively new account, gachas are meant to be played over a long time, 12.5k CSMM was not a thing a 2 years ago, we started at 7.5k and have more time to get used to it, you're jumping right to 12.5k so it's a bit frustrating if you can't clear
your roster can clear 12.5k sure but you need to play around with the parameters more to fit your play style, take the advices here with a grain of salt

[steel kelp]

They just wanna see how long they can push their gacha game

[manic kiln]

i can test that team but probably parameter issues

[steel kelp]

What team

[manic kiln]

sskris cyrus lucian that they used above

[steel kelp]

It’s generally parameter issues

[manic kiln]

that team should have no trouble clearing at all, and i see a few issues with queueing too

[steel kelp]

Even without ss kris and just the other two with gen support it shouldn’t be a problem

[proud axle]

Would it be better to pick half healing instead of half starting HP?

That way Kris can use her first turn putting up SpDef+4 (via Rain Dance)

Half healing and full HP: 100% starting HP and 30% from three mini potions for 130% total
Half HP and full healing: 50% starting HP and 60% from three mini potions for 110% total

[manic kiln]

picking full str and lucian still 1 shot the mid with sync, cyrus can take care of sides

[old orchid]

is your Lucian ungridded and non EX?

[proud axle]

Which round was this again

I'm a little busy for a bit but I have those characters so I could try it out myself later

[manic kiln]

4

[proud axle]

Permanent fields? Then you can definitely open with Rain Dance

[manic kiln]

yeah

[proud axle]

If we're using Lucian here, I'm a little worried about their plan for the champion fight... but maybe they have Neo Champions or something to throw at that. One thing at a time...

[manic kiln]

oh 2/5 lucian, alright i'll test again

[silver dirge]

No May?

[manic kiln]

idk that's what they used

[silver dirge]

Interesting

Round 4 right, vs Flint? If someone can link me move levels I can try record a run and see how it goes

Nvm

[proud axle]

Sinnoh League moment, huh

[manic kiln]

@twilit kiln https://youtu.be/Az6KIBxFAXA?si=ffkhFMeJNCybMt1K

• Full str parameters, you can remove a few and replace with something else but never choose HP
• Rotation
  Kris: Rain Dance > TM > TM > Sync > Potion/TM
  Lucian: x6 Growl > Sync
  Cyrus: TM > Hydro Pump on the left > Hydro Pump on Mid
• Don't overqueue, do exactly 9 moves then sync then quickly queue moves again
• You need to deny the left after your 1st sync if you can't quad queue that's why after maxing stats Cyrus will focus on the left first, it's not needed but should help you get an extra turn

My lucian is 5/5 but I used a 2/5 grid, something like this https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/17600/20300?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFEhMWFxscHyEjJSgpKg

[proud axle]

Wonder if they have the orbs to grid Lucian. Was this the person on their first week?

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I still haven't done Hop Champion Stadium

...I still haven't decided on an order either 😦

and as long as I haven't done that, I can't build my teams

all I know is that either Bruno or Kahili should be picked for Round 2 and that Flint should be avoided for Round 2 and Round 3...but that's literally it

[noble plaza]

So for either Bruno or Marshal I might just use Adaman and SS Erika and offtype one of them. I'm currently on r3.

[full mesa]

Why does it say Flint: part 1?

[noble plaza]

Mistake ig

[old orchid]

you can use that team on either of them, as long as you bring a defensive support

[noble plaza]

For r4, I was thinking of using Bianca but I'm wondering if it would be smarter to save her for Hop since I'd be using Giovanni

[old orchid]

likely a translation error yeah

Hop has a lot of debuff so 3/5 Bianca tanking is a good choice, but do you still have Lucian available?

[noble plaza]

No I used him for Kahili

[old orchid]

and who are you going to use on R4?

[noble plaza]

I'm still not sure. Like I said I was thinking Bianca but I'm wondering if it would be better to pair her with Gio on R5

[old orchid]

thats why i asked you who would you bring to R4 first

[noble plaza]

Lodge N seems pretty good but I would have to get sync orbs

[old orchid]

he leans towards utility tho, his dmg isnt good enough and def needs Bianca's help

[noble plaza]

Ahhh

[old orchid]

so Lodge N + Bianca on R4 then

but Bianca carries ofc

[noble plaza]

[noble plaza]

Which I can with lodge stones but I also probably need to get Lodge Elesa to 3/5 for High Score

[old orchid]

i believe N has higher sync if you grid him Rude Awakening

but it doesnt matter anyway

try using them without grid first to see if its possible then

[noble plaza]

Alternatively I still have the SC Subway Bros if I wanted to offtype

[verbal karma]

...anyone able to help me, perhaps?

[valid ivy]

can ss kris cyrus may presync drasna

[zealous karma]

I wouldn’t count against it, that’s a very strong team

[zealous karma]

You know what not to do but why dont you try building teams first before rounds

[valid ivy]

is may tm worth

using at all

[verbal karma]

because the teams depend on the rounds I pick, that's why

that means whichever team gets to do Round 3 is hardlocked to have EleSSa as the EX support for extra safety

and whoever gets to do Round 4 would make heavy use of Psychic Terrain

[steel kelp]

Why SS elesa specifically

[verbal karma]

because of her TM and the MPR I have gridded on her TM

multiple sync accels = more safety

it's always been like that

[steel kelp]

That doesn’t mean it’s a free win

[verbal karma]

I mean...it worked for me so far

Anyway, I first need to decide two things:

Bruno or Kahili for R2?
R1 or R4 for Flint?

[keen jasper]

Anyone works for R1 as long as you presync. R2 is made for poison stalling, otherwise it's a neutral round parameter. R3 is no Flint. R4 is made for Psychic Terrain units.

[steel kelp]

Also don’t tunnel vision on on typing

[nocturne pawn]

i did

it was fun honestly

[zealous karma]

Oak and tate gaming was very fun

[nocturne pawn]

i used will

will and bianca gaming

[zealous karma]

I did as well

[keen jasper]

I killed Marshal with Caitlin's Hidden Power thinking it was Stored Power

[nocturne pawn]

pretty sure reuniclus doesn’t even learn stored power

[verbal karma]

Well, yeah, I figured as much for R1, R3 and R4

That's why I am trying to narrow things down even further

[verbal karma]

So yeah, finding an answer to those two questions would be already a good start for me

[keen jasper]

Everyone besides Flint are extremely easy to do

[verbal karma]

maybe...but that doesn't exactly answer those questions

those are simple "A or B" questions, I would like an answer that isn't "C"

[steel kelp]

Didn’t that already answer your question

[verbal karma]

...not exactly

like I said, those were "A or B" questions

and KenShaftrio gave me "C" as an answer

[keen jasper]

I gave you general idea on how and who to handle on those round parameters

[viral sapphire]

Is there any specific order should I go for psychic CS?

[keen jasper]

#1009554906568462476 message

[verbal karma]

yup, and sadly, that doesn't exactly help me

[viral sapphire]

Except for No flint in Round 3 right?

[steel kelp]

Yes

Pretty much just that

[zealous karma]

Yes that’s a death sentence

[steel kelp]

The others don’t really matter

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing you want an actual direct answer on which round each E4 you should face

[verbal karma]

...almost, but not quite

[verbal karma]

I just want a direct answer to those two questions

once I got those, I would only have one more question left

since the third question depends on the answer of the first question

[keen jasper]

I've answered your questions + 2 more

[verbal karma]

you mean this?

[zealous karma]

I mean it doesn’t really matter who you do on round 2 wether that be Bruno or Kahili they’re both very easy stages and neither have huge benefits from the param flint can be done round 1 or 4 just don’t do hom@roumd 3

[verbal karma]

because it doesn't tell me if Flint should be R1 or R4

or if either Bruno or Kahili should be R2

[keen jasper]

Just don't do Flint on R3

Any other round, Flint is fine

[verbal karma]

I mean, I figured as much and more

[keen jasper]

Then why are you still asking if Flint should be on R1 or R4?

[zealous karma]

It really doesn’t matter who you do on what round other than flint on round 3 I’m not sure what other answer you’re seeking whatever you have it’ll be more than fine

[verbal karma]

because that's the one thing I can't decide

I could only decide what rounds to NOT go for for Flint

and also narrow down R2 to two possible candidates

[zealous karma]

You could just try doing the fights yourself

[silver dirge]

[verbal karma]

like I said, I am looking for either "A" or "B" as an answer

not some wishy washy "C"

[silver dirge]

A bit aggressive considering everyone is trying to help you here lol

[verbal karma]

heck, my apologies if it sounded aggressive

that wasn't my intention

it's just...really annoying that I constantly ask for either A or B as an answer, yet always get C as a half-answer instead

[silver dirge]

A lot of the round parameters, e.g. status conditions/additional move effects depend on your team comp, not the opponent's. So the only viable answer to your question is that it doesn't matter, since the comps are up to you

[keen jasper]

Have you tried actually trying the fights?

[verbal karma]

well, no, because I never do them unprepared

I always do preparation first

[keen jasper]

You can't be prepared unless you're willing to try

[silver dirge]

Part of preparation can just be giving a stage a shot and seeing what the gimmicks are lol

[keen jasper]

Besides, CS has unlimited attempts, it's not like it's one try deicdes if you fail or succeed

[silver dirge]

[keen jasper]

So why are you still worried about being unprepared when you have literally unlimited tries to prepare yourself?

[formal vigil]

plus the only really hard fights are flint and maybe hop

[left storm]

For what

[steel kelp]

It’s not like it’s a one time thing

[silver dirge]

If you have your teams prepared then ask which round is best for which team, we can see e.g. Ah, this team likes to paralyse so you can do it on the status parameter round

[formal vigil]

so save your best units for them

[nocturne pawn]

hop gets neutered by skyla and lucian shits all over him

[steel kelp]

They’ve already gotten their answer

[verbal karma]

mainly because if you try a stage and win, but then can't win the next one because you picked the wrong order, then you can't just reset the CS

[steel kelp]

Then just do the rest with no params

Then reset

[verbal karma]

no

I never reset

[silver dirge]

Going to have to be a little flexible here lol

[left storm]

You can win most CSMM 5 rounds combo with exclusively f2ps even with mediocre rounding

[nocturne pawn]

all gen pool psychic units ss brendan can be any special attack + crit support

[formal vigil]

just don't do flint roud 3

[nocturne pawn]

you are whining for no reason

ss red can legit be anyone

[keen jasper]

More like neutered by OG Jasmine

[nocturne pawn]

i dont know why hes there

[nocturne pawn]

skyla has innate haste and 1/5 grid defense debuff immunity

[verbal karma]

I may be asking for help, but there are certain things I would never be willing to do no matter what, and resetting CS is one of those things
if I pick an order for CS, I am sticking with it

[left storm]

Sure?

[steel kelp]

What

[nocturne pawn]

no like really

[left storm]

That doesn't mean it's a decision that needs that much pondering

[nocturne pawn]

its not that hard

[keen jasper]

I mean, infinite field effects and your DPS can't be RNG critted

[zealous karma]

what a long list of supports!

[left storm]

Csmm 2.5k is really easy

[zealous karma]

I’m just mad Sabrina is still my only Spatk crit Spd support not counting SSKris and I’ve been playing for how many years

[nocturne pawn]

tbf lucian can max crit himself so really you can just use a special attack support

[left storm]

Like

[nocturne pawn]

tate/

[silver dirge]

Tate supremacy

[nocturne pawn]

:cringe:

[formal vigil]

chad tate

[verbal karma]

damn, some people are able to just...do 2-character teams

[silver dirge]

Hey tate does some decent damage

[verbal karma]

I don't think I'd ever be able to do that

[left storm]

I mean he's 4* 0/20 135

You know that means I never used him til this week

[nocturne pawn]

its literally just picking good parameters

[left storm]

[steel kelp]

Well

[left storm]

But he performed greatv

[nocturne pawn]

both of those stages are physical and both of the supports are good tanks

[steel kelp]

He is a 3* so you at least DID take him to 4*

[left storm]

For my expectations

[steel kelp]

[zealous karma]

Ratio

[nocturne pawn]

ratio deez n-

[left storm]

When you've played a long time you run out of ways to use

[steel kelp]

Trust me I know

Been pulling a lot recently and had over 300

[paper summit]

imagine still having 3* regular pairs

[steel kelp]

Decided to finally use them

[left storm]

Will is easily a free W for starters

Tate can double nuke mid if you don't have 6* supports if you have trapping

[nocturne pawn]

will lets you take +3 enemy stats

for free

[left storm]

Yea

[nocturne pawn]

and its actually good for him

[left storm]

He's great

[steel kelp]

Also didn’t help that this month was really slow in terms of events

[nocturne pawn]

cuz he can copy stats

[left storm]

Doubled

[nocturne pawn]

they staggered every event for no reason

which was so fucking annoying

also i finally got a 3 passive support paldea starter

[left storm]

I don't dislike having stuff every 2 days

[nocturne pawn]

now i just need support sprig

[left storm]

Instead of having more stuff once every 5

[formal vigil]

only one I got was support sprig I have like 3

[left storm]

I got shiny tech croc so I'm keeping that one instead of support

[nocturne pawn]

:stab:

[left storm]

Aggr 2 fire fang might be fun to run with lodge irida

[nocturne pawn]

also tech quaxly is so useless

[left storm]

What does it have

[nocturne pawn]

growl

and mgr2

[left storm]

Lol

Real?

[cinder summit]

Player & Quaxly

Haste:

Speed cannot be lowered.

Move Gauge Refresh 2:

Has a chance (30%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.

Stamina Reserves 2:

Charges the user's move gauge by 2 the first time it is in a pinch each battle.

Themes:

Water | Main Character

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[left storm]

At least cat has 60%
Croc has 30+30

[nocturne pawn]

[left storm]

Wow that's

[nocturne pawn]

sleep chain i guess

thats about it

[left storm]

Probably the worst eggmon in a while

[nocturne pawn]

compared to the other 2 its baad

[left storm]

That's not strike I mean

[nocturne pawn]

doesnt fuecoco have super infliction 2

[nocturne pawn]

tbh i think the strike paldea eggs arent bad

[left storm]

Ehhhh

Yeah, sure

[nocturne pawn]

like

its not amazing

[left storm]

Strike?

[nocturne pawn]

but its not unusable trash like 99% of them

no tech

[cinder summit]

Player & Fuecoco

Haste:

Speed cannot be lowered.

Hostile Environment 2:

Raises the chance of inflicting status conditions with the additional effects of moves.

Aggravation 2:

Raises the chance of inflicting the flinching, confused, or trapped condition with the additional effects of moves.

Themes:

Fire | Main Character

If you like the bot, consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/PoryphoneBot

[nocturne pawn]

oh wait

its just irida passives

nvm

[left storm]

Yea

I might run them together

If we get a "secondary effects" fire weak

[nocturne pawn]

irida guarantees them

so fuecoco doesnt do anything lol

[left storm]

Yeah I know but croc can chain on the next target

Which gives more rotation

[wraith cove]

I want to clarify something here to please consider for the future, asking for help when you need it is totally fine as this is what we are all here for, and there are a lot of people willing to voluntarily devote their time helping you and many others that need advises.
So please be more respectful towards their suggestions of what you can do, they are not trying to overthrow your principles of playing the game, all they do is giving you more approaches to consider that‘ll only benefit you in your future preparations. Calling them „halfwashed“ and whatnot is misplaced here and if you want people to go along with suggestions you actually are looking for specifically, then approach those who put their efforts into helping you as well by clarifying exactly your specifics beforehand.

We are no mind readers who can read your expectations into the tiniest detail per default.
If you need help, then don‘t make people potentially regret assisting you.

[verbal karma]

heck, my apologies...

[nocturne pawn]

just

learn to compromise

resetting a cs is annoying but its not gonna ruin your life

if it needs to happen then it needs to happen and move on

obviously we dont want that to happen

[zealous karma]

And if things seem truly dire that’s when you may need a change in team comp or param or whatever it may be

[rotund lagoon]

Y’know, I’m genuinely surprised I don’t see other people doing how I do CS every week, cause it’s really helpful.

You do your teams for Hard Mode, clear that, then on the second round, do Master Mode. That way you have a reset if you found out you screwed up.

And if you find out through Hard Mode you wanna switch some teammates, you can do that after Hard Mode is cleared (since it’s not that hard)

[silver dirge]

Sounds like a good strat to me

[paper summit]

not that hard mode is actually hard, even if you mess up and reset isn't enabled yet, the battles without any points are a joke

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah basically saying Hard Mode hardly lives up to the name if you know what you’re doing

[silver dirge]

Doing that would also give you an idea of all the stages' gimmicks without being too difficult to overcome so you can plan for MM accordingly

[zealous karma]

I asked this pretty much everywhere but does anyone know why flint and I had halved sync?

[paper summit]

if you can't replicate it, it's just a glitch, don't overthink it

my theory is the game got confused with the regular CS params, halved countdowns is the round 1 on that one

[zealous karma]

How peculiar

[silver dirge]

[paper summit]

is Cobalt redacting an essay??

[mellow linden]

I’m just gonna throw my 2 cents in here that CS round effects, outside of a small few cases (namely half-Sync rounds), barely make any difference, or the difference they do make is to something like hindering quadqueue or a case of “avoid this fight on this round”. If you can take advantage of an effect with a team you’ve already planned out, great. But there is zero reason to go out of your way to force your teams into the round parameter boxes (and I don’t mean in the sense of “I have an extremely flexible slot on this team, so might as well slot in someone who can throw out handy debuffs on the debuff amp round”, don’t worry), and if you’re relying on the round parameters you’re most likely making things harder on yourself for no reason

[rotund lagoon]

Also the time a CS round param was a physical or special damage reduction when 75% of the matches didn’t match that one

[north crown]

Heah at this point it's just a straight up skill issue with frame gated game mechanics. People just need to get better overtime.

[fluid vessel]

There are only 2 (maybe 3) parameters worth noticing: Half Sync, Permanent Field, and if you like poison/burn stalling then Better Status

[valid ivy]

Can this 2.5k presync diantha withr the increased sync buff effect

Or should i use someone else in the ss

[zealous karma]

For sure

[valid ivy]

Wait i read rhe effect wrong

Which would be best modifier

[old orchid]

Diantha uses many strong physical moves, so be careful

the 4th because it helps freeze lasting longer

[lime raven]

Its that time again

I havent done the special cs or the regular one yet

😭😭

i need help with teams

And params

[zealous karma]

Why dont you try and build teams yourself🐴

[lime raven]

cause

I tried

But

Im not that good yet

[zealous karma]

its an important skill

[lime raven]

I know the general idea

But im dumb with parameters

Apparently i always never have the right ones

[zealous karma]

what teams have you tried we also have params in pins thay you can follow

[lime raven]

brb

I kinda maybe cleared my params

But i got the team i tried to use for wikstrom

[zealous karma]

I am less concerned about params for now

that looks like a very strong team comp

But I imagine you ran into trouble because wikstrom hits to hard?

[lime raven]

Yea

[zealous karma]

do you have the endurance stagger grid for sonia or something else?

[lime raven]

I have stagger but not endurance

[zealous karma]

I see with this team you can actually take off Sonias Critical squad and maybe do smth like this

I wouldnt take standard dr here since may uses blaze kickj

[lime raven]

Its cause i had the potion things

[zealous karma]

it just occurred to me but you didnt use optimize for this right?

[lime raven]

no

[zealous karma]

okay was just making sure

on turn one if you dont mind resetting for rng, you could use tackle with sonia to delay a turn from wikstrom and make it so next time he attacks he wont have zone and you will be a cycle ahead of him,\

[lime raven]

Doesnt seem that complicated

[zealous karma]

like
Dh+ -> x spd -> tackle

and if you spam click sonias tm you can prolly get another move in before wik kinda like quad queueing but easier

[lime raven]

uh

with what params?

[zealous karma]

on type pre sync more damage, but instead of stnandard dr strength 3

[lime raven]

By any chance

is there any improvements that could be made to beas grid?

[zealous karma]

\no thay looks good

[lime raven]

Not much that can be done to may

At 1/5

[zealous karma]

correct

[nocturne pawn]

why are you not taking soften up

[lime raven]

i didnt know how to grid it

[nocturne pawn]

critical charge is whatever because she demands max speed anyway

[valid ivy]

I finally did 12.5k mm

[zealous karma]

nice

[lime raven]

There

[valid ivy]

Could i replicate it for every cs from now on if i did it once?

[zealous karma]

I didnt really think of that as I use the same bea grid lel

[nocturne pawn]

why tf are you not using soften up

rng on strike ex is so fucking cringe

[zealous karma]

I like crit charge

[lime raven]

got soften up in exchange for lowering sync base damage

[zealous karma]

i also never use bea

[lime raven]

who do you use?

[zealous karma]

scdiantha

[lime raven]

I thought bea was one of the best f2p pairs

[calm marsh]

Yes, she is

[zealous karma]

shes very good but SCDiantha is better and a fav who I have had for a majority of my accounts life

[lime raven]

man

the only sc i have is like

Lillie and sonia

[old orchid]

me who prefer using Focus Miss Solgaleo:

[zealous karma]

shes far from neccesary bea is well enough

[lime raven]

Ss may is underwhelming at 1/5

[calm marsh]

Focus Miss in main game, in here is so better with +6acc

[lime raven]

low sweep does nothing

[old orchid]

you dont use low sweep for damage

[rotund lagoon]

Why….are you using Low Sweep?

[zealous karma]

well low sweep is not a damaging move

I mentioned earlier dont take stqandard dr because blaze kick is a much much better move

[lime raven]

I dont really have fighting pairs

[rotund lagoon]

My guy….Solgaleo.

[zealous karma]

they hasve ex bea

[lime raven]

idk

[calm marsh]

1/5 SS May is good for - Sync CD and Debuff Def

[rotund lagoon]

Wait wtf this is new to me

EX Bea is 10x better

[calm marsh]

If fire week SS May can deal good dmg

[lime raven]

Yeah she did help

[zealous karma]

she can deal good damage even off type

[old orchid]

you can use both SS May and Bea together

[zealous karma]

they are

[old orchid]

May has speed buffs + def debuffs

[lime raven]

and sonia is good to go now too

so on type pre sync with damage parameters

[nocturne pawn]

minus sdr8

[lime raven]

wait

Standard

Or special

?

Oh right

i should know

lol oops

L moment

There

[zealous karma]

that is a lot of power on hit

[lime raven]

i mean

[zealous karma]

and offense

[lime raven]

I told you

alr

Hold on

I think thats better

[zealous karma]

that looks better

[lime raven]

So flinch wikstrom huh

[zealous karma]

Ye

[lime raven]

Oh shi i accidentally pressed ruff buff 😭💀

2nd try

Not too bad

[zealous karma]

That’s really close

[lime raven]

i dont think i landed a crit on a sync

[zealous karma]

With soften up its a guranteed crit

[nocturne pawn]

soften up makes it a guaranteed crit you probably just need to deny a side

[calm marsh]

Is this round 1?

[nocturne pawn]

because they are one sneeze away from dying

[lime raven]

Yea

[zealous karma]

For round one that’s really impressive

I tried it myself and it’s close

I don’t have ssmay so I used thr bootleg

[nocturne pawn]

i swear to god if he opened with anything besides eq it was a reset

because flash cannon is boosted by fucking 80%

[calm marsh]

If you play correct

You can use 2nd Sync before enemy

[lime raven]

I keep f up

Wait when am i supposed to use may tm?

[old orchid]

after the first sync

[zealous karma]

Maybe after Sonia’s sync thinking on it

[old orchid]

to ensure you sync twice before the opponent's first sync

[zealous karma]

Since with a sonia flinch you’re skipping a cycle anyways

If you quad queue that’s another cycle skipped

[lime raven]

So

dire hit

X speed

Tackle

[zealous karma]

Ye

[lime raven]

and then

Blaze kick?

[zealous karma]

Ye

[lime raven]

then x attack?

And sonia sync

?

[zealous karma]

No use X Spd again and then Sonia sync

[calm marsh]

Why my phone cant record video rn

This team can pre Sync even at half Sync

[zealous karma]

Crazy

[calm marsh]

Yes it can

Now i must use ipad

[lime raven]

I cant

Half ally mp

[zealous karma]

Oh so In that case use meteor assault

[calm marsh]

Finally i can record

[zealous karma]

Bede did WHAT

[lime raven]

No way

[calm marsh]

My team, i dont use Fighting Gear bc maybe you dont have it

[old orchid]

EX your May

[calm marsh]

Không mà

If she 3/5 i will EX her

But i will just daily if May Banner comback

[old orchid]

i will let you pass this time

[lime raven]

oh man

[calm marsh]

Oh i forgot

[lime raven]

My countdown didnt go down that much

[calm marsh]

If your SS May doesn’t have Lucky Skill HS 1

You will dont have enough gauge to use Bea’s 4 bar move

[lime raven]

Wait whats hs again? 😭

[zealous karma]

Head start

[calm marsh]

Head Start

[zealous karma]

You can rely on the flinch strat I recommended before

[calm marsh]

If you play this stat

No need potion

[zealous karma]

True

[lime raven]

What cookie gives hs?

[calm marsh]

Purple one

[lime raven]

Yeaaa abt that

[calm marsh]

Let me try non hs May

[lime raven]

Okay

[calm marsh]

Will need to adjust Parameter

[zealous karma]

Perhaps that clear is too complicated for them

[calm marsh]

I try need parameters

And it just need 1 def drop from may

But you need want to get Flash Cannon as 1st move

[lime raven]

wait what

[calm marsh]

If May has HS1, you will get enough gauge to use 2 Low Sweep

But if not

Try this parameter and use dire hit instead

[lime raven]

Bruh i died

LETS GOOOO

@calm marsh exact same battle as you

now

whos next

[zealous karma]

nicework!

depends on what/who youre usinf next

electric is a fine choice if you are using volkner for 100% flinch

[lime raven]

I have sst red

3/5

[calm marsh]

Yeah should be easy

[lime raven]

Same params?

[calm marsh]

No

That parameter just custom for that battle

[lime raven]

im making some rn

oh yeah

This dude getting destroyed

But

Yeah

Volkner

Not marnie

i just pressed optimize to see

[zealous karma]

Oh no marnie is fine there Volkner I said for e terrain but you have red

[lime raven]

I wouldnt need to waste a turn with red

[zealous karma]

But don’t use the optimize button it doesn’t give the best of team comps you’re lucky there it’s mostly fine

[lime raven]

With volkner

[zealous karma]

3/5 SstRed will warrant a free win regardless so it doesn’t matter lel

[lime raven]

Boom

Already

Now uh

ahem

[grand trout]

Is this kalos or pasio

[lime raven]

Kalos

[grand trout]

So what stage are you in

[valid ivy]

for the special stadium i did bruno round 1 with ss elesa anni may and ss brendan, what should i do round 2

my limited pairs are:

[grand trout]

What's r2 special condition?

[valid ivy]

status condiions

i have ncmarnie sskris ncred sslyra celesa ssdianta scrosa tina scsteven anniraihan

i plan to use lucian and marnie for final round

[grand trout]

Anyone but flint

Flint has HE

[valid ivy]

what is that

[grand trout]

Hostile environment

[valid ivy]

oh

[grand trout]

You're more likely to be burned

[keen jasper]

Hostile Environment, raises the chance of inflicting the status condition on that attack move

[valid ivy]

im thinking of using ss lyra for kahili

[grand trout]

Sure

Why not

[valid ivy]

should i do a post sync offtype team

[grand trout]

Psychics aren't known for statuses anyways so treat this round as a free one

[lime raven]

I have siebold and wikstrom beat

[grand trout]

If you can, go for it

[valid ivy]

actually i take this back

ss diantha would be better

[grand trout]

What's r3 condition?

[valid ivy]

she would benefit from the field and the debuff

[lime raven]

Special dmg reduction

[valid ivy]

what worries me is the round 3 condition

halved sync countdowns

[grand trout]

Do drasna

You'd want to go special with malva

[valid ivy]

wait doesnt it not matter if you crit

[grand trout]

Use marshal for it. Shouldn't be hard

[valid ivy]

beat marshal already

[grand trout]

Yeah true lol

[valid ivy]

with anni may

[silver dirge]

Her base defenses are high, not a physical shield. But it's not too bad nonetheless

[keen jasper]

Just don't do Flint on R3

[lime raven]

Yeah uh

[grand trout]

Oh i thought you meant bruno

[valid ivy]

oh

[grand trout]

Do bruno for r3 then

[valid ivy]

so dont do flint on r2 or r3

[grand trout]

R2*

Kahili or bruno should be ok

[grand trout]

Yes

That leaves him at r4

[valid ivy]

flint r4 with a rain team right

[grand trout]

Ehhh

[lime raven]

Should i get bp valerie

[grand trout]

Recommended but not necessary

[valid ivy]

im debating whether to use marnie/lucian tea for bruno r2 or r3

[grand trout]

You'd want someone that can heal burns

[silver dirge]

Sure but you have Diantha she's fine

[lime raven]

i havent really used diantha

[grand trout]

Use gio for r3

For easier sync

[valid ivy]

i have ss kris who has flameproof and also is just good

[valid ivy]

not exed

[grand trout]

Lol rip

Wait wdym not exed

Do you mean not megad?

[valid ivy]

both

[grand trout]

You can ex gio for free, right?

[valid ivy]

no

[grand trout]

... I'm confused

[valid ivy]

you need event for ex gio

and mega

[grand trout]

Oh

Nvm

[silver dirge]

You meed the event to be running

[valid ivy]

also i was stupid when i was a beginner and traded in the gio tickets anyway

[grand trout]

Oh

Well

Dead

Anyways let's focus on r2 first

Who are your other psychic units

Actually have you posted your roster

[silver dirge]

Maybe just save Lucian for Hop just in case, he's pretty handy there

[lime raven]

so um

[valid ivy]

im using lucian for a marnie team

cmarnie

[silver dirge]

CMarnie or reg Marnie?

Ah okay

[valid ivy]

i plan to use ss diantha there

for both the zone and the better def shred

[grand trout]

Oh you have sabrina

You can use her for half sync

[valid ivy]

sabrina is exed

[grand trout]

So she gets ex support faster

[valid ivy]

alr

what about r2 tho

wait should i use marnie here

[grand trout]

It's a free round

[valid ivy]

flinch chance is increased right?

[grand trout]

You can use caitlin

Nope

Just status

[valid ivy]

oh

[grand trout]

Flinch is a condition

[lime raven]

Guess i wont need sycamore anywhere else

[grand trout]

Do you need params?

[valid ivy]

ill probably use her anyway here tho just bc i dont use sabrina w her

[grand trout]

Sorry wasn't backreading

[lime raven]

yeah cause i dont really have outstanding fairy types

i mean

my only non f2p fairy pair is s marnie

[grand trout]

How about

Bp valerie

[lime raven]

shes good huh

[grand trout]

She's good as well

[grand trout]

She is

[lime raven]

Am i going to have to ex valerie

cause then id have 2 ex mawiles

[grand trout]

Not necessarily

Ex her if you want to

[lime raven]

Bp valerie being physical is a good thing though

[grand trout]

Yes

It very much is

[lime raven]

So no sycamore

[grand trout]

Anyway

Params

Why don't you use the one in the pins

I really can't offer my params atm because that means i have to reset my stadiums to see them

[valid ivy]

for s3 special stadium

[grand trout]

And I'm not doing that

[valid ivy]

who would work well w alakazam and nc red

[grand trout]

Sabrina despite being a support is very frail

[valid ivy]

vs bruno

[grand trout]

You'd want someone that buffs up team defense

[valid ivy]

would tina work

[grand trout]

Reflect isn't enough

[cinder summit]

Tina & Flareon

Catalytic Infliction:

Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play the first time the user's Pokémon uses a status move each battle.

Team Mind-Bracing Infliction 2:

Raises the Sp. Def of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks the first time the user's Pokémon uses a status move each battle.

Endurance:

When the user enters battle with full HP, applies the Enduring effect to it.

Themes:

Fire | Free Spirit | Passionate Spirit

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[grand trout]

Too slow

[valid ivy]

my red is 1/5 if it matters

[lime raven]

Welp

[valid ivy]

i could also maybe use ss lyra for the field stage meaning i wont use a rain team meaning that my ss kris is freed up

[zealous karma]

Valerie likely didn’t need 5* shes@pretty good

[grand trout]

5* valerie would help a lot with your fairies

[lime raven]

[grand trout]

Yes but it's appreciated Nonetheless

[valid ivy]

lol i did the same valerie strat for drasna

i used 14 4 star pus

and she did fine

[lime raven]

desperate times call for desperate measures

[valid ivy]

i did a setup nuke with sc steven

[grand trout]

Joe, what physical supports do you have

[lime raven]

As in attack up?

[zealous karma]

When it’s resourves on the line I wouldn’t be so quick to spend them

[grand trout]

Valerie would want to set up crit fast

Yup

[grand trout]

Did they do it already?

[lime raven]

not yet

[grand trout]

Ah

Well hold on for now lol

[valid ivy]

wait for the halved sync stage would red/kris/sabrina work

[grand trout]

I thought you already did it

[grand trout]

Why kris?

[valid ivy]

sskris

[grand trout]

Why?

[lime raven]

No i always procrastinate with everything

[valid ivy]

idk i thought she might help with the smun

[grand trout]

Nc red already has smun

Ss kris is overkill

[valid ivy]

since i need to kill them really ast

[zealous karma]

Valerie is pretty self sufficient all she needs is defense debuffs and gauge I would not max her attack entirely so you can save seun for her sync

[grand trout]

Besides bruno is piss easy

You just need a defense buffer to help with survivability

And because he'll brick break your reflect

[lime raven]

i have 130 5 star power ups

[valid ivy]

red/skyla/sabrina?

cred

[grand trout]

Skyla would do just fine

[lime raven]

And im not even counting the tickets

[valid ivy]

shit i used skyla

[grand trout]

Hop?

[lime raven]

Use sonia

or yeah

[valid ivy]

saving sonia for champ

[grand trout]

Sonia too if you have her

[valid ivy]

with diantha

[grand trout]

Ah

[valid ivy]

oh

alr

[lime raven]

Galar never fails to dissapoint

[valid ivy]

wait any other possibilities

bc i kinda want to use hop w ss lyra

its not necessary

[grand trout]

Umm

Jasmine?

Hahaha

[valid ivy]

and?

[lime raven]

Screw it

im exing valerie

[zealous karma]

Why

She doesn’t need Ex to clear

[grand trout]

The only units that come to mind are limiteds

Like burghepi

[lime raven]

because siebold needs to be taught a lesson

[grand trout]

And faitlin

[zealous karma]

Why are you using a fairy type against siebold

He’s weak to electric

[grand trout]

You're in drasna stage, dear

[valid ivy]

ill just go hop then

[lime raven]

LMAO

i mean

Drasna

Nvm

Damn

I really hate siebold that much

😭

[grand trout]

I don't recommend exing valerie but at the end of the day it all boils down to your prerogative

[lime raven]

i guess i dont need to

[grand trout]

I just hope if you do, you won't regret ut

[valid ivy]

if im using hop and sabrina should i still go half mp?

[lime raven]

No

[grand trout]

Never go half mo

Mp

[zealous karma]

Why are you using hop and Sabrina together?

[lime raven]

Why is marnie my best fairy type

[grand trout]

Defense

[valid ivy]

sabrina for ex support hop for defense buff and cred for funny damage

[zealous karma]

That still doesn’t make sense

[grand trout]

They already used skyla

Bruno half sync

[zealous karma]

She’s a very strong unit and can be used alongside Valerie

[grand trout]

I suggested a defensive support because Sabrina is frail

[lime raven]

oh

[old orchid]

save Hop for another team

[lime raven]

I did already beat siebold as well

😭😭💀

[old orchid]

you can use a worse defense buffer like Marlon

[lime raven]

why am i slow sometimes

[old orchid]

CRed doesnt need much support

[grand trout]

Or jasmine!

[valid ivy]

marlon and who

[grand trout]

Sabrina, marlon/jasmine, and ncred

[lime raven]

Should drasna have pre sync params?

[grand trout]

You just really need to buff team defenses so you don't die to bruno sy c

[grand trout]

It'll be hard to quadqueue in r3 because of the condition

[old orchid]

depends on your team

[silver dirge]

Ideally yes otherwise you need to deal with Dragon Wish and defenses so you don't die on sync lol

[valid ivy]

i meant what pokemon does marlon have

[grand trout]

You should keep that in mind

[grand trout]

Carracosta

[valid ivy]

who the f-

what type

[grand trout]

Water

Turtle

[valid ivy]

hes at 3 stars

[grand trout]

Doesn't matter

[valid ivy]

and i cant upgrade him past 125

[grand trout]

Again you only need to buft team defenses

[lime raven]

So i should max out drasnas attack

[silver dirge]

What's marlon for? Defense buffs?

[lime raven]

And strength

[grand trout]

Yes

[cinder summit]

Marlon & Carracosta

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

None

[valid ivy]

at ghat point why dont i just use tina