Champion Stadium

[manic kiln]

yeah if you're slow just play at normal speed to avoid any panic tap

[proud axle]

Might even need to premeditate your first turn

Because, well... you didn't triplequeue your first turn

[manic kiln]

^ also don't switch unit first turn, move them around and change tactic and did mid -> right -> left to avoid losing time

[proud axle]

The best first turn is probably Dire Hit All, Psy Terrain, Growl. Fortunately none of these require you to specify targets

[lean cosmos]

Alright, thanks

[manic kiln]

you did left right mid and lost like 2 seconds to switch units

[proud axle]

I'd try something like
Turn 0 (enemy still taking aim): Dire All, Psy Terrain, Growl
Turn 1: Reflect, Snooze&Lose, Growl
Turn 2: Sixth Sense (Lucian), Snooze&Lose, Growl
Turn 3: Sabrina sync (I know she's not EX, I want her to Mega), Stored Power, Growl, Quadqueue Dire All
Turn 4: Stored Power, Growl, Sixth Sense (either to heal someone or to max Lucian's SpAtk)
Turn 5: Stored Power, Growl, Psychic
Turn 6: Stored Power, Lucian Sync for KO denial, Psychic, Stored Power, Confusion

Bianca would be a better tank than Sabrina

Lucian would hit for both his multipliers maxed on Hop, right before Hop syncs

Quad damage

Dire All is after Sabrina's sync because her other choices either cost gauge or require a target specified (so they're not very quadqueue compatible)

[lean cosmos]

Ok problem, Sabrina dies turn 3

I doubt having bianca #1 seems like a smart idea

[old orchid]

Bianca tanks better than Sabrina

[proud axle]

Do you have any idea how little Def Sabrina has

[nocturne pawn]

even with reflect up sabrina has negative defense

[lean cosmos]

I mean why have the main dmg dealer #1 though?

[cinder summit]

Sabrina & Alakazam

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 540
ATK: 71 | DEF: 180
SPA: 248 | SPD: 274
SPE: 366

Acquisition:

General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Kanto)

Alternates:

Sabrina (New Year's 2022) & Chingling

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Support Minimal (2/5)
‎　+ Full Utility (3/5)
‎　+ Mega / Utility (3/5)
‎　+ Mega / Pseudo-Striker (3/5)

Lucky Skill (Support): Vigilance, Sentry Entry 2
Lucky Skill (Striker): Critical Strike 2

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[swift swan]

3/5 bianca has impervious which is great for tanking this fight, unfortunately I don't think you have access to that yet

[nocturne pawn]

theirs is 1/5

[lean cosmos]

Yea I don’t, I’m also out of sync orbs so I can’t really do it

[nocturne pawn]

if i read right

[lean cosmos]

spend all of em just getting to hop

[proud axle]

Because she's the best-equipped to take the hits. Did you forget that her TM buffs Defense?

Sabrina can use her second Sixth Sense to heal her

[nocturne pawn]

bianca is a decent tank

with the capability to deal damage

[proud axle]

Sometimes we just do have the damage dealer tank. Sycamore and even Cyrus have taken this role

[nocturne pawn]

uh

[proud axle]

Because having all three members alive for as long as possible, means more sync moves

[nocturne pawn]

regular?

tf

[proud axle]

Yeah, for anniversary Dragon extreme

[lean cosmos]

So uuuh, about bianca being a decent tank

[proud axle]

That happens sometimes, and it's kind of an effect of trying to take on super endgame content with such a thin roster

[lean cosmos]

IG this is what I get for using up my nc trio round 1

Def won’t happen again

[proud axle]

Can't you just reset

[lean cosmos]

[proud axle]

Oh.
Then win with 0pts and then reset

Or is this a 0pt clear?

[lean cosmos]

No it’s a 2.5k

[proud axle]

Then yeah just 0pt it and have Neo Red cheese this with some cheerleaders

100% freeze is a hell of a drug

[nocturne pawn]

you really just need someone who can buff lucian

i feel like you probably have a better dps than bianca

[zealous karma]

I see why you’re struggling lel

[nocturne pawn]

like its fine for what it is but someone to kill sides after he syncs sounds better

[proud axle]

What Psychic-attack-move-knowing pairs remain?

[zealous karma]

They don’t have to be a psychic type

[nocturne pawn]

what i meant was off type

will could also be a good damage dealer here since he has a more offensive kit vs bianca

lucian even without terrain should easily kill mid

[zealous karma]

Pretty sure wills damage is worse than 1/5 bianca

Especially out of terrain

[nocturne pawn]

her special attack stat’s like 10 points worse

[zealous karma]

she gets terrain + spdef debuffs while will has to choose between which one he is getting + will doesnt have any damage multipliers from grid

[grizzled ridge]

Yeah I think I need more roster and grid for master mode did marshal at 500 points because 2500 is hard

[nocturne pawn]

confusion synergy 2

20% its good enough for scaling that hard

[proud axle]

Will has this. It isn't much, but it does exist

[nocturne pawn]

and its a lot easier to access his stored power tiles

but an uninvested will is doing less than bianca

[zealous karma]

dp they even have the sync orbs required to grid will?

[nocturne pawn]

.

i acknowledge that already

[proud axle]

3/5 Bianca can actually get a bigger multiplier than Will does, especially in this context where she's paired with Lucian.

Buuuuut the Bianca we're working with, is 1/5

[zealous karma]

well its a 10% diff

[nocturne pawn]

10% difference that also needs 6 turns to reach

and until turn 4 is worse

[proud axle]

...She isn't attacking until Turn 4 tho

Psy Terrain, TM, TM, Turn 4.

[grizzled ridge]

Ncblue is so op I did Bruno with like 500 points and I think I could have gone for more probably even 2500

[proud axle]

Bruno is easy. He's from one of the two easiest leagues. Kanto or Johto. I don't remember which version this one is.

[grizzled ridge]

Oh lmao wasted ncblue potential

[proud axle]

If you clear the whole thing, you can reset it and try it again, and use your characters differently

[zealous karma]

That’s Kanto Bruno

[proud axle]

Any score is fine for this, you can go for 0pt clears if it's an emergency

[proud axle]

The literal easiest league, then

[lean cosmos]

Did 50k to the poor machamp lol

[proud axle]

Is that a 0pt clear?

At least you stomped it for a little bit of revenge

[zealous karma]

Oh nice

[proud axle]

Stored Power is nutty like that

[old orchid]

Is using Lucian here a bit wasted tho? Because Hop stage is designed for Lucian to win easily

[lean cosmos]

Yea if I didn’t throw round 1 I could have 12.5ked it

[old orchid]

Wait nvm lol

Im dumb

[zealous karma]

What a round one team

[proud axle]

Yeah they did in fact use Lucian to pay Hop back all that humiliation they just went through

Now they can reset and use their characters differently. Like humiliating 2.5k Hop with Neo Red

[lean cosmos]

On the bright side I now I can 2.5k flint and Bruno

[hazy tusk]

The roundest one of all time

[cold tusk]

randomly just threw together teams 2 and 3 (3 took 2 tries, took a bit of luck with sides missing mew everytime)

wish more psychic types were strike ex

makes it easier to nuke everything at once

[proud axle]

Maybe Caitlyn? ...Does her grid expansion give sync multis, actually

[cold tusk]

lol i never use her and never will

[nocturne pawn]

yes

sync power flux and furious brain

as well as critical eye 2 on tm

[proud axle]

Hm, Brain for normal moves and flux for sync...

[hazy tusk]

Caitlin slams

[nocturne pawn]

dont need super freebie but its good

yeah and her spatk is 422 at 140

[proud axle]

I should give her a try sometime. Maybe I should've given her a try this time, but I forgot she had an expansion

The way quadqueuing works, we frequently do have maxed gauge when we pick the sync move...

[swift swan]

she's darn good

[proud axle]

Is Flux inhibited by Max Gauge -2?

[nocturne pawn]

shes also gaugeless after her first attack so lol

[nocturne pawn]

yes

caps at 66% instead of 100%

[proud axle]

Darn. But +67% ain't so bad

Thank you

[proud axle]

It's all that energy she saved from sleeping all day

[lean cosmos]

Time for my revenge on the CS

[zealous karma]

what is the team for leaf and lucian

[lean cosmos]

The other guy

[zealous karma]

no I mean Dana and Colress dont work there nor does lillie

[lean cosmos]

And yea I kinda just forgot about them

[proud axle]

Giovanni isn't in any of these teams, so he can go... somewhere

Uh, is it a good idea to have a Fighting-weak pair (Leaf) against Hop...? I guess Neo Red might still win, but...

[zealous karma]

Works nicely with lucian

[nocturne pawn]

gets blown up

[proud axle]

Bird girl brought bats and instead the champion fight is Bird Dude (Hop) vs Bird Dude (Neo Red)

[lean cosmos]

Blows up hop with mind

[fluid vessel]

Pain

[lean cosmos]

I swear If they just didn’t give her clean slate this fight would be 10x easier I stg

[silver dirge]

Is this master mode?

[pseudo drum]

This is my team for battling hop in 2.5k special champion stadium.
I can easily get the 2 sync buffs from Anabel and then Hop's sync comes. But the next time I just cannot get in another sync before he gets in one, killing my team.

[silver dirge]

A supereffective next sync from Lusamine under terrain + 1 prismatic laser should clear the stage with little to no difficulty

[pseudo drum]

O so I won't need the 2 sync buffs

[silver dirge]

Nope

Just save SEUN for Lusamine's sync

[pseudo drum]

Ok

[silver dirge]

You should be going for first sync with Lusamine cos she gets all her stat buffs + AoE anyway

[pseudo drum]

You can also see my parameters

Should I send it

[silver dirge]

Yeah go for it

[pseudo drum]

K comin

[silver dirge]

^ This was what I did, and without Double Down 9 cos I forgot to change grids. So with the full nuke build it might just one-shot the stage

[pseudo drum]

O good

And here it is

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[silver dirge]

HP, Defence, Max Sync countdown?

Why those?

[pseudo drum]

Well it is 2.5k

[silver dirge]

You should never be picking Defense, at all unless poison stall

[pseudo drum]

O

[silver dirge]

Nor Max Sync Countdown in 99% of cases

Max HP is also making them bulky

Use the preset in the pins "On-Type Pre Sync (More DMG)"

[pseudo drum]

Well I suck at fixing parameters

Thanks

I might have to see a guide abt fixing parameters

😅

[silver dirge]

1st or 2nd link here

[pseudo drum]

Thanks

I really appreciate your help

[silver dirge]

No prob!

The stat usually is to go for pre-sync or post sync. If you're going for a pre-sync run, then that means you're going to give the opponent as much offenses as possible and as less defenses as possible, so they'll hit you hard but your team will also be designed to hit hard so you can finish them off before they sync. This means you'll pick up stuff like Atk Up 3 & 5, some Strength etc.

If you're going for a post sync run, then the idea here is to try and design your team so that they'll be able to survive the enemy sync. This means your team needs good defense buffs, and your opponent can't have too many offensive buffs. In this case you might give your opponent a little more HP and strength, and less Atk parameters so they don't hit your team too hard on sync

[pseudo drum]

Wow that was awesome!! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[pseudo drum]

Thanks

[pseudo drum]

I nuked havoc in there

[noble plaza]

Anyone I should save or avoid for certain rounds?

[mild hatch]

Knowing me, I’m gonna save Deoxys for the end

[noble plaza]

Who should I R3 for psychic cs

[dark osprey]

Can use R1 for Flint for an easier pre-sync

or R4 perma field

Flint is the one u have to be bothered with

[sand karma]

What is clean slate?

[keen jasper]

Resets all stat drops to normal when syncing

[verbal karma]

okay, so

in the Hop CS, who's the least dangerous for R3?

[mild hatch]

I managed to toxic stall Flint for R2

[grizzled ridge]

Finally did it although only 3k points but ig I can do better when I grid a few

[keen jasper]

Not Flint

[verbal karma]

damn, just straight up "not Flint"

[left storm]

Anything works if your team can handle burn

[grizzled ridge]

Burn is bad ?

[keen jasper]

Flint shits on you post sync

[grizzled ridge]

Yeah his dmg is crazy

[left storm]

Yeah but he's paper

[keen jasper]

Like diarrhea shit

[verbal karma]

...wait

Challenge Flint...Part 1?!

you mean there's a Part 2?!

[keen jasper]

We were all confused about that

[grizzled ridge]

Part 2 coming soon

[mild hatch]

A flaming turd, perhaps?

[left storm]

What post sync

[grizzled ridge]

Part 1 was crazy idk how difficult will be part 2

[mild hatch]

After the opponent uses a sync move

[keen jasper]

R3 parameter

[verbal karma]

anyway, I feel like Flint might want to be R4 the most? ya know, to take advantage of field effects

[left storm]

Yeah?

[keen jasper]

Not whale like you

[verbal karma]

R2 definitely goes to Bruno

[left storm]

whale

Ayo

[grizzled ridge]

That’s 2500 points ?

[left storm]

I spent less than 50 bucks in 4 years

[verbal karma]

actually, on second thought

[left storm]

[verbal karma]

R2 could be Bruno OR Kahili

[left storm]

Ye

[grizzled ridge]

Holy shit wow

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing you first tried it

[left storm]

Third or fourth try

[grizzled ridge]

Meanwhile me struggling with 3 members lmao

[left storm]

But I reset one

Because I didn't see HE4

"oh I got burned, reset"

gets burned again

[grizzled ridge]

How does burn affect special attacker tho

[left storm]

"ah, whatever"

[keen jasper]

But jokes aside, Flint literally kicks your ass on R3

[left storm]

It was more a "oh no my tank will die if it acts"

Then I remembered you never click attacks with sableye anyway

[grizzled ridge]

Stronks

[left storm]

I think this psychic CS was hella fun for me

Probably one of the funniest CS period

[keen jasper]

Psychic stronger than Stored Power?

[left storm]

Especially because it started with this

[left storm]

She doesn't have stored

She has hidden power

[keen jasper]

Oh that's Stored Power, LMFAO

[left storm]

Psychic is miles stronger yes

[keen jasper]

[left storm]

HP used to be great for her tanking in LA

Between propulsion and her catalytic cure

For DPS having super freebie 9 and furious brain it's psychic only

It's funny how they made mgboost literally useless because of super freebie 9

[keen jasper]

So I've been using the wrong ability with her this whole time

[left storm]

[left storm]

I might unironically 20/20 will this year btw

Enemy Stat up ^3 means he gets +6 all but crit in 1 turn

Which caps stored power instantly

[left storm]

Regarding this, it depends on the unit you wanna use

And that you have available

He can be on any round if you have a good enough team for it

You can even not run terrain on him because he's paper

Not literally but he doesn't buff defences so even a single -1 Def is huge

[valid ivy]

i fell asleep earlier but thanks for this

[sand karma]

But surviving will be a problem no?

[silver dirge]

Ay I also 2v3d Flint with Caitlin, but my support was MC/Mesprit

[valid ivy]

i editied these a bit are these all good?

[wide adder]

i just got confused at a failed offtype without even paying attention to the fact i had standard reduction on during pasio cs lmao... this is what happens when i try to clear at 5 in the morning ig...

[left storm]

Was it R3?

[left storm]

Not with Ssblue as tank

[silver dirge]

Nah R3 was ssteven solo

[left storm]

Makes sense then

I just wanted to use double Caitlin

And flint R3 was a self imposed challenge

[silver dirge]

Does faitlin buff crit?

[left storm]

Nope

[silver dirge]

Ah okay mostly defences and speed then?

I've always wanted to select scout her but there's always someone more valuable there

[left storm]

Faitlin is exclusively there for theming and to tank enough so Caitlin can kill stage

She's a unit that imo gets better with time

Since more and more DPS units are self sufficient

She can just hard focus on making your team beefier defensively

[silver dirge]

Yeah makes sense also kinda like aura cynthia

[left storm]

Yeah, kinda

I really don't like aura cyn

Too boring

Potions and a one click +6+6

Zzzz

I prefer triple shield post sync and an outfit that feels unique

[silver dirge]

Yeah not my playstyle either

[old orchid]

I hear Faitlin talk

[left storm]

Endurance + first aid 4 + syncro healing and fainting heal is very fun in csmm

[silver dirge]

Yeah she seems like a fun unit

I'm hoping for a seasonal select with no one else I want more so I can finally get her

[silver dirge]

[left storm]

Especially because with all 3 barriers up AoEs barely tickle even frail strikers

[silver dirge]

Yee mega sableye is also just cool

So is her outfit

[left storm]

Easily in my top 5

Poma outfits

[silver dirge]

Is that the EX outfit?

[left storm]

Base

Ex is pink

[silver dirge]

Ah right

[left storm]

Not my jam

[silver dirge]

The screens definitely helped v Flint, Mesprit is kinda like a really budget Faitlin

[left storm]

Yeah pretty much

Just, it doesn't have defensive buffs at 1/5 and fucks quad queue because freevenge

[silver dirge]

The freevenge is nice tho, I was consuming no gauges with her and Caitlin

But yeah quad queue was a pain so I just gridded head start

[left storm]

Mesprit has HS1 on grid?

[silver dirge]

**skilled

[left storm]

Ahhh

This reminded me of checking something

[proud axle]

Freevenge 9 can only give you free gauges every other turn, though...

The freebie status needs to already be on the mon at the time you select the move, because that's when the gauges are consumed. It does not work (but fortunately is not consumed) if it is applied while the move is already queued

You queue a move (costs gauge)
Enemy hits you, Freevenge procs
Your move resolves, you requeue (readies freebie)
Enemy hits you (your freebie status is not yet consumed so it cannot give you a second freebie yet)
Your move resolves, freebie status ends. You requeue (costs gauge)

[silver dirge]

Oh yeah ofc I was just exaggerating here lol

[valid ivy]

My 4 star valierie isnt doing enouhh damage to kill drasna in time

Im doing test runs so i only did 1300 params

[left storm]

Btw

Can you guys confirm me the fact head start should reapply if the Pokémon megas right

Like, HS1 SS wally should eat -3 cd after sync

[nocturne pawn]

no

thats because his mega has hs2

[left storm]

I mean with HS lucky skill

[nocturne pawn]

it wont

[left storm]

So stuff like entries works

But HS doesn't?

That seems unfair

[cinder summit]

Head Start 1

Reduces the user's sync move countdown by 1 the first time it enters a battle each battle.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Sygna Suit Grimsley & Sharpedo
Gloria (Dojo Uniform) & Urshifu
Sygna Suit N & Kyurem
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Aura) & Lucario
Blue & Pidgeot
Steven (Anniversary 2021) & Rayquaza
Hilda (Special Costume) & Diancie
Blue (Classic) & Aerodactyl
Paulo & Lycanroc
Emmet & Archeops
Gordie & Coalossal

‎

Morty (Fall 2021) & Banette
Sygna Suit Brendan & Latios
Sygna Suit Cynthia & Kommo-o
Sygna Suit Serena & Zygarde
Archer & Houndoom
Gloria & Zacian
Marnie (Palentine's 2022) & Mawile
Raihan & Duraludon
Sygna Suit Wally & Gardevoir
Diantha & Gardevoir

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[nocturne pawn]

first time

[cinder summit]

Ferocious Entry 6

Raises the user's Attack and Sp. Atk by 6 stat ranks when it enters a battle.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Giovanni & Rhydon

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[nocturne pawn]

it enters

[left storm]

How about wise entry

Oh ok

I see

That seems pretty deliberate for no reason

[nocturne pawn]

yeah because it would be stupid as hell

means that brendan could skip a full turn for mega

[left storm]

Yeah

I mean you're sacrificing your LS for it

And they'd need HS/adrenaline 2

On mega change

[nocturne pawn]

he has grid vigilance anyway

so if i ever needed it i can just change it around

[left storm]

Yeah but again

I think it would be fair

Since it would only apply to megas

[nocturne pawn]

no it’s definitely better this way

[left storm]

Ok I wanna try to understand why'd you say it's "better this way"

Like, there's no such thing as balance

Or PvP

In this game already

[nocturne pawn]

well look at sc steven

[left storm]

Yes?

Exactly?

When there's units like that, SS wally or Brendan full ramping on sync doesn't look too op

[proud axle]

If they want the mega to have it, they'd give it Adrenaline for that slot.

That's how SSLeaf works. She's a proto-Sprint.

Mega, Adrenaline, and TM to make your second sync come in a full round early

[left storm]

Yeah I know

But she's a 2020 unit

I could've seen stuff that gets adrenaline and so on

That megas

Ramping with HS again

Just because it's not THAT broken

Considering stuff like leaf could do it with TM 3 years ago

[nocturne pawn]

ss leaf also has like

minimal team support beyond that

whereas ss brendan is a support and a very good one at that

[proud axle]

...Also the Sprint role exists now

[onyx ice]

I think hs should be a different number on mega or won't trigger again

[proud axle]

When they want it to do that, they put Adrenaline in the HS slot for the mega forme

[nocturne pawn]

im really interested why wally has hs2 instead of adrenaline tho

[proud axle]

Weird, innit

[onyx ice]

SS wally has hs2 on mega

[nocturne pawn]

i know

[onyx ice]

I think adrenaline on mega triggers 2nd sync

[nocturne pawn]

but why is it that and not adrenaline

[halcyon sail]

It's not consistent with other pairs

[proud axle]

SSLeaf gets it on her first

[halcyon sail]

That is why it's weird

[nocturne pawn]

when functionally it is the same thing

[proud axle]

DeNA moment

[onyx ice]

Leaf has it on base

[nocturne pawn]

yeah it doesnt change

so it wont activate again

[proud axle]

That's not exactly what I think they're saying (but they do have a point)

[cinder summit]

Sygna Suit Leaf & Venusaur (Mega)

Potent Toxin 2:

Increases the amount of damage an opponent takes from being poisoned or badly poisoned.

Sundering 9:

Lowers the target's Defense or Sp. Def—or both—by one stat rank when the user's move targeting that opponent is successful.

Adrenaline 2:

Reduces the sync move countdown by 2 the first time the user's sync move is used each battle.

Themes:

Grass | Kanto | Sygna Suit
Pallet Town

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[onyx ice]

I think adrenaline on mega only triggers second sync

[halcyon sail]

It's first sync

[nocturne pawn]

its always first sync

i can try it with ss brendan

[proud axle]

Odd... adrenaline's effect procs after the animation but the mega happens at the start of the animation

[onyx ice]

SS Brendan doesn't have adrenaline on mega kit

[old orchid]

I kindly ask yall to move to #916852389347196958 to discuss further about this topic

[pseudo drum]

I am doing the kalos stadium against siebold and using this team.
Getting pretty close yet not there should I change my team or is it impossible at present?

[proud axle]

Sun ruins Red

It blocks his 100% freeze chance

Get rid of Morty

His Ice Beam is overpowered because it always lands Freeze. This is one of the most useful things he has

If you put him on a team with Morty, you're hamstringing him

[pseudo drum]

So which support should I use

[old orchid]

Do you have Lucian?

[pseudo drum]

?

[proud axle]

Meh, Red can kill them all himself with just Sonia

[old orchid]

No need to run double supports

[pseudo drum]

But sonia is non ex 1/5

[proud axle]

Doesn't matter. Enemy cannot fight back while frozen

[old orchid]

Should be fine without

[pseudo drum]

O

[proud axle]

Red could probably solo the stage

[pseudo drum]

At 2/5

!?

[proud axle]

At 1/5

[pseudo drum]

Wha!?

[old orchid]

We dont recommend new players doing solo tho

[proud axle]

Sonia makes it more comfortable
Red can already win by himself

[pseudo drum]

Could I do 2.5k

[proud axle]

If the enemy is frozen, they cannot fight back. Red can 2.5k with cheerleaders.

[old orchid]

You can try with lower points first. If it is easy to clear you can try adding more params

[proud axle]

Just stop giving him Sun and you'll have a way easier time

[pseudo drum]

Well I did with 1.5 it was too easy

[proud axle]

Sun destroys a big part of what makes him so powerful

[pseudo drum]

Thnx

And should I bring in Ghetsis for dropping their atk spatk

[proud axle]

(It's also a bit of a throwback... 1st anniversary had SSRed and SSLeaf get in each others' way a little bit if you put them on the same team. Now, on the 4th anniversary, Neo Red hates sun but Neo Leaf summons sun)

Ghetsis can work fine if you time Sonia's potions (and more importantly the attached gauge accel) well

[pseudo drum]

Ok

I'll try

[left storm]

Wait since then is that a thing?

[cinder summit]

:information_source: | No move found with that name

[proud axle]

Since the main series, this whole time

[cinder summit]

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_ICE:967452395875487745> Frozen Wings Ice Beam

Power: 150
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Activation Condition: When there is at least one Pokémon with a lowered Type Rebuff on the opponent's field of play.
Deactivation Condition: When there are no longer any Pokémon with a lowered Type Rebuff on the opponent's field of play.
Ignores passive skills that would reduce the damage of this attack. Ignores passive skills that would protect the target against a critical hit. Ignores the target's Enduring effect. Leaves the target frozen.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Red (Champion) & Articuno

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[left storm]

Wow I forgot about this detail

[nocturne pawn]

smile

[left storm]

I guess because it's such a niche occurrence

[proud axle]

In PMEX, it's even moreso; sun will actively thaw units that are already frozen when it is summoned. The main series does not go that far IIRC

[left storm]

Clicking Ice Vs sun teams is basically a non occurrence in mainline

[nocturne pawn]

oh yeah the sun interaction

[proud axle]

If you put Neo Red and Neo Leaf on one team, and you queue Ice Beam before Flare Blitz... it will not inflict a turn denial because the enemy "knows" the freeze won't last until their turn

[left storm]

So I clearly forgot

[mild hatch]

Somehow survived R3 Marshal with this team

[old orchid]

pikachu face

[pseudo drum]

Which parameters should I use?
Their attacks hit too hard

Especially the sync

[proud axle]

You want to win before they sync. Buff up, use Blizzard once and then spam Ice Beam on the center

[silver dirge]

[proud axle]

I would recommend an offtype presync build for Neo Red

Make sure not to give them status immunity of course

[pseudo drum]

K

[proud axle]

There should be some suggestions for it in the pins

[pseudo drum]

K

[proud axle]

If that doesn't work, come back and hopefully someone can help you troubleshoot in more detail. (I need to get to work.)

[placid ravine]

How viable would Ariana be as a nuker for the Poison weak Diantha

[old orchid]

at base she has innate Power Play so she is alright against Diantha

she needs dps assist tho

[placid ravine]

Any F2P suggesting for dps assist?

[nocturne pawn]

this is ground weak right

[placid ravine]

This week yes

[old orchid]

Roxie and Koga

[placid ravine]

Alrighty

[nocturne pawn]

those 2 are good honestly

[placid ravine]

I’ll prob go with Roxie

Since they are both physical damage dealers

[pseudo drum]

I finally beat the stage even though 2k I still won right

[old orchid]

well you beat the stage, thats a victory

[mild hatch]

LMAO She didn’t even get the chance

[zealous karma]

That sure is the comp

[mild hatch]

Kris was just filler lmao

[lean cosmos]

I wish I could use red for her, but I’m saving him for hop

[mild hatch]

Fair enough. I’m probably gonna use Anni May for Hop to set up terrain

[lean cosmos]

If only she didn’t have clean slate

[swift swan]

Red for what

[lean cosmos]

The fight would be 10x easier

[swift swan]

ah

[silver dirge]

Are you aiming for the medal hard mode here? I'm not sure I understand what this comp is doing

[lean cosmos]

Yea I’m trying to 2.5k her

[silver dirge]

So master mode or hard mode?

[lean cosmos]

Master

[silver dirge]

Looks like master mode, and if so, SS Elesa achieves well - not a lot

You're better off running another fire type damage dealer

who can benefit off NC Leaf's fire rebuffs and provide more damage

[mild hatch]

Barely survived

[open copper]

would someone help me make teams to clear 12K champ stadium please?

[silver dirge]

Send over your roster, let's see what you've got to work with

Also, regular CS or special CS?

[open copper]

i cant find how to filter only owned

[open copper]

maybe both

[old orchid]

Visibility -> Have

lets start with the regular first, since Psychic one stays for a while

[open copper]

should i edit it into one image?

[old orchid]

you can use the image button tho

and add separators

[silver dirge]

Same place the Visibility option is, there is an "image" option too

[open copper]

oh ididnt see that sry

thanks ill do that give me a sec

[old orchid]

your image should be like this with role sort turned on

[open copper]

i cant find how to seperate them

[silver dirge]

Under visibility also

Show separators

Nope sorry

[old orchid]

no its under Sort by

[silver dirge]

Sort by

[silver dirge]

Gotta deal with half sync parameter first

hmm

[open copper]

i also still have some bp thingys

for 4 and 5 star pairs

[silver dirge]

That's good, will come in handy for fairy probably

Okay your Electric Team can be Elesa, Volkner and BP Surge. Surge needs time to paralyze though to tackle HP Advantage 4, so this isn't ideal for Round 1

Fighting team could be Bea, Hilbert, Kukui? I feel like Bea should be able to one shot mid with nuke. Let me go test this out one sec

[open copper]

i have 3/5 ex sc diantha wouldnt that be better?

just saying if you didnt maybe see it im not doubting your skills

[silver dirge]

Nah nah you're all good, I actually just didn't see her

Her sync does take a whilee to set up though, I'm wondering if this can be your Round 1 clear

Okay it seems Wikstorm is a little bulky, so yeah you can just go SC Diantha for Wilkstorm. BP Morty is a good 2nd, and Elio a good 3rd

Credit to Gakon there ^ for the comp

Fairy weak, you have NY Lisia, she will clear it really easily, just bring a physical support to max her out quicker. Filler 3rd

Rock weak, I would just offtype this tbh. I can see Cyrus, SS Blue and May in your roster that's a great off-type team. I sent a recording earlier on the rock weak stage actually let me see.

Edit: Actually you also have 5/5 EX Olivia, she can also do it. Bertha helps with sand, Hilbert can help with speed

Can just follow this ^ params at the end

[open copper]

what params should i do for fighting

[silver dirge]

Post sync params, on-type in the pins. Since you're maxing out your defences quickly the team should be able to take it

Try this round 1

[open copper]

okkk

[silver dirge]

Do remember to adjust them to your team. For example, the ones in the pins pick up "Techs damage x3" but your team has no strikers and has techs, so swap it for strike damage x3

[open copper]

yep

[silver dirge]

Nevermind, SC Diantha can take him out presync

Recording uploading, params at the end

almost there

Once you clear R1, the rest shouldn't be a problem tbh your roster looks pretty good 👌

[open copper]

i did it lets gooooo

[silver dirge]

nicee

[open copper]

same team as yours

[silver dirge]

Yeah I forgot Elio doesn't buff speed as well as Roxanne does

[open copper]

but i didnt even oneshot with sync

diantha had to finish with sacrred sword

[silver dirge]

dang, did you have the same params as mine? and maxed out defences etc?

[open copper]

i used on type pre sync more hp

also i didnt crit like 3 times in a row

very annoying

[silver dirge]

Ah, that makes sense. If you give em more HP then you might not do enough damage to kill em

Wikstorm is already quite bulky

[open copper]

what should i do second

"use moves with additional effects"

[swift swan]

If you have a team that abuses flinches, that would be great

[silver dirge]

The rest of the rounds don't really matter in the grand scheme of things tbh, maybe do Siebold now for easier paralysis, but if you run Surge then don't need that

[open copper]

with elese do i do pre sync or post sync?

[silver dirge]

I'd say avoid Drasna for R3 maybe but I don't really remember who was physical and who was special off the top of my head I just know her Dragon Pulses hit hard

[silver dirge]

Pre

[swift swan]

Kalos kinda punishes postsyncing with their bulk and already ridiculously high damage ,imo

[silver dirge]

I agree ^

They get super bulky very quick

[open copper]

can i substitute for bp surge?

[silver dirge]

If you're going R2, then paralysis is gonna be easier to inflict anyways so you can sub him for a physical/speed support and try paralyse with Elesa's spark herself

[open copper]

kk

[silver dirge]

Hilbert is a good option

[lean cosmos]

Nc blue goes kinda hard NGL

Never really knew how broken he was until he soloed the side mons

[open copper]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/YH2G1QhngwXbrw3k6
Look at this goofy dmg

@silver dirge

[silver dirge]

not loading 😔

[open copper]

thats weird

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tUi7XcTe9wPb3g869

What about now?

[silver dirge]

just keeps spinning lol "your vid will be ready soon"

[open copper]

can we just hop into call and ill share my screen

[silver dirge]

lil' busy rn watching something

[open copper]

basically elese is syncing 1k hp only

fully buffed

[silver dirge]

did you change physical damage reduction to special

As in, special damage reduction should be on, physical should be off

[open copper]

i forgor

[plush tangle]

yknow you could just send it directly

[silver dirge]

thanks Mael

[plush tangle]

oh wait maybe not

[silver dirge]

It's workin for me

That looks like there's either physical damage reduction on or you've picked up all the defense nodes lmao

[open copper]

Yeah

I didn't swap

dmg reduction

[silver dirge]

ah that'll do it

[zealous karma]

This looks like phys dr

[silver dirge]

yeah it is

[open copper]

@silver dirge so who should i run with ny lisia?

she can buff herself to max no?

[open copper]

oh ok

nvm then

[silver dirge]

[lean cosmos]

I love it when rng is in my toxic stalling [I need np refresh on hops potions]

[silver dirge]

I gave you some tips before on your poison stall team. Mainly that you're missing out on a lot of damage from Trap

[lean cosmos]

Oh you did? I must of missed it

[silver dirge]

I would replace one of your Janine's with Lucy, specifically the one with Crobat

Lucy can poison and trap, Janine (the other one) can debuff

[lean cosmos]

Yea I’ll do that if my current attempt dosent work

Luckily I’m on r4 all 2.5k since I just did some of them in a different order

[sick inlet]

Why dis dmg so low

[silver dirge]

Also I don't remember if that particular stage (Kahili) uses special moves, but by using Hop you're also missing out on SpDef buffs.

Swimsuit Misty is a better option imo, you can reset for more def/spdef buffs and she has access to synchro healing on sync

which isn't MPR restricted

[sick inlet]

Free unit you can fully upgrade from her event

[lean cosmos]

I already beat kahaili

Did her round one instead of round three

[silver dirge]

Oh, who is this?

Marshal?

The point still stands nonetheless, if they use special moves you'll be more vulnerable to them

[lean cosmos]

This is Bruno

R4 Bruno

[silver dirge]

Looks like you're fine then Bruno and his sides are always physical

but you don't got synchro healing

[left storm]

6/10 no Dana? Smh

[lean cosmos]

He’s dead, time for hop

[open copper]

for the love of god

i cant beat fairy

its so bulky and strong

pls help

[proud axle]

I used Lisia and Sycamore with a Def+Crit buffer. Post-sync ontype parameters.

Lisia can defog critshield off (ez +150pts) and then defog the Dragon Zone away (Drasna's sync is harmless without it)

I did this on round 2, increased added effect chance. So all of Sycamore's and Lisia's Moonblasts will more reliably destroy Drasna's SpAtk.

[mellow linden]

No need to use regular Lisia when NY Lisia is there

[proud axle]

Oh word? Give that a shot then

I never remember seasonals

[mellow linden]

It’s unorthodox, but SS Morty might have enough bulk to work as the tank

[swift swan]

Ss morty definitely has enough bulk to tank

[paper summit]

unless you are Richu and meme with ridiculous parameters to get him killed anyway

in normal, more reasonable conditions he should be able to stay quite healthy the entire battle

[lean cosmos]

so close

[paper summit]

the heck is Aaron doing in that team?

[lean cosmos]

His best

[sick inlet]

Defense buffing and healin

[lean cosmos]

Tbh Aaron isn’t doing much, he gets like 3 moves off then dies to a brave bird

But I kinda used up all my s tier supports getting to hop so he’s the best I got

[sick inlet]

Dies in 3 moves?

Oh right, you're getting debuffed all the time?

[lean cosmos]

Or dies turn 1 to zapdos if bad rng on moves

[proud axle]

Double Drop moment

[sick inlet]

Do you have anyone with unbending or impervious?

[proud axle]

Is Skyla still available?

[plush tangle]

do you have ss steven

[sick inlet]

Solution to everything

[plush tangle]

dude benefits from double drop it's so funny

[lean cosmos]

[proud axle]

Skyla has Unbending in her grid, plus Haste innate

[sick inlet]

Skyla

[lean cosmos]

Yea skyla is available still

[proud axle]

Throw some at her if you haven't

[sick inlet]

Skyla instead of Sabrina, but Skyla tanks

Well

Yeah

[lean cosmos]

About that

[sick inlet]

I think Aaron tanks better than Sabrina

Rip

[proud axle]

Zamn

[plush tangle]

why is your skyla still 1/5
are you new to the game ?

[proud axle]

They're outta orbs, so probably

[plush tangle]

I could be out of orbs 1.5 years into the game

[proud axle]

Spend more Lodge Stones on orbs then

[lean cosmos]

I wouldn’t say I’m new

I reinstalled around a couple months ago

[proud axle]

Not new physically but sorta new... """Spiritually""" or something

Have you been on top of your Lodge stuff? Do you have Lodge Stones to spend?

[lean cosmos]

New player mindset

Yee

[plush tangle]

eh

[proud axle]

Hm! Then maybe cash some of them in when you have an emergency.
In this case I think there's still time to just try it with tomorrow's regular orb income

Or we can check for other Supports if you wanna try some more today

[plush tangle]

I would guess no but do you have any psychic type dps still available ?

NC Red should still be a free win, you can literally perma freeze

[lean cosmos]

Should I?

[plush tangle]

She's a great unit to invest in

[proud axle]

She's a good choice for an early EX Support, so this might not be a bad idea

[sick inlet]

For a long time, was best f2p support

[plush tangle]

Still is in the top of f2p supports

[proud axle]

For reasons generally unrelated to Haste and Unbending, even

But those certainly don't hurt right now

[lean cosmos]

Ight IG I’ll go with this

[proud axle]

Wonder if it can work if Red had some help with Sleep-locking the sidekicks. They tend not to have Lessen Status skills

[plush tangle]

lemme beat the e4 rq and show you a simple NC Red clear

[lean cosmos]

Kinda wish I could use my other nc pairs bit I had to use them to get to hop

[proud axle]

It's alright, Red is really cheap

[fluid vessel]

A solo

[plush tangle]

lol no

[proud axle]

While they do that.
Is regular Serena available? Sleep cheese to go with the freeze cheese

[fluid vessel]

[proud axle]

[fluid vessel]

Then do the Palmer solo, biggest Palmer fan

[lean cosmos]

I do have her and I was thinking about it, but wouldn’t it just get in the way of reds freeze?

[plush tangle]

^

[proud axle]

Slightly, but they accomplish the same goal

I don't think Red actually needs the freeze for damage, we just like it because it locks the enemy down

And Sleep can do it too

[fluid vessel]

~~at that point you can use literally anything ~~

[proud axle]

Red can only put one enemy down at a time. Serena can shut down the whole team

[lean cosmos]

True

[proud axle]

I mean that's kind of exactly what I'm getting at

[plush tangle]

Do you have any unit with move gauge accel

still available

literally any

wait no not needed nvm

[lean cosmos]

Slug

[proud axle]

A Singer (Elio or Melony) with the Troublemaker 1 Lucky Skill can serve a similar purpose, and also be a tank

It's a nice slug, fwiw

Skyla (gridless)/Serena/Neo Red might actually work if you do it just right

[lean cosmos]

Ight I’ll prob use this

[proud axle]

Good luck!

Sing is 90% accurate with Troublemaker 1

[lean cosmos]

I love getting oneshot

[proud axle]

Why is he even awake

Brought a Singer and didn't use Sing?

[lean cosmos]

Not turn 1, IG that’s the problem

[proud axle]

Here's how I'd try this
Skyla: TM, TM, Gust or Potion
Red: TM, Blizzard, Ice Beam
Elio: Sing (center), Sing (right), TM
Neither of your supports are EX, so just have Red sync

After sync, Elio Sings at the left. Red bombards Hop with Ice Beam forever.

[plush tangle]

ok actually red sucks at locking an opponent, great

[paper summit]

why would you use Red's TM turn 1? you are supposed to use Blizzard

[plush tangle]

Do you have any other dps than red

[paper summit]

TM after, not before

[silver dirge]

I also don't see the need for both Elio & Skyla

[lean cosmos]

I don’t know what I’m doing wrong

[plush tangle]

ungridded skyla

[silver dirge]

Wouldn't you be better off running another self sufficient low guage damage dealer, and a decent guage support

[plush tangle]

so uuuh not the best

[silver dirge]

ah

ungridded

[long thicket]

Well...

[plush tangle]

Whom do you happen to have lucian

[long thicket]

I saved Lana for Hop, but it was a struggle even with permanent zone.
So I had to attempts with a Darkrai sleep spam until I succeeded.

[plush tangle]

ok that's just a skill issue lol

[silver dirge]

I remember Jo telling you to save Lucian for Hop, now would be time to pull him out

[lean cosmos]

I’ve already used silver / ho-oh

[plush tangle]

you had giovanni all that time

[silver dirge]

Gameplay or param issue here

[long thicket]

I used the base 12.5k there.

But then replaced status with something else.

Darkrai wasn't my first choice.

[lean cosmos]

Yea but I used him r1

[long thicket]

Well, not the "base" 12.5k, that's not the right way to say it.

[plush tangle]

hop is built to be countered by lucian

[silver dirge]

[plush tangle]

are you doing master mode or just regular run btw

[long thicket]

I tried Lucian, didn't go well.

[silver dirge]

They're doing master mode iirc

[long thicket]

2500 On-type pre sync, I believe.

[formal vigil]

i mean its psycic cs there is just mm

[lean cosmos]

These were the team I used

[silver dirge]

oop that's also v true

[long thicket]

Um...

You can do it without master mode.

[plush tangle]

you could go for no points

[silver dirge]

Genuine question, from what I've seen you tend to go for 2 support comps a lot. Is there a specific reason for this? Often the supports don't contribute a lot to the team either. Just tryna understand the thought process

[lean cosmos]

I’ve already beat hop I’m doing the runback for 12.5k

[lean cosmos]

Well for Bruno I needed someone with toxic / venom drench, for flint I really needed the survivability since he hits like a truck and Sonia’s potions + def buffs are really helpful. For the other 2 I don’t quite remember

I’m p sure it’s just Cus I don’t have many good tech / striker compared to supports

I also thought that red would easily clean up hop so I didn’t put much effort into saving support syncs

[silver dirge]

I see, fair enough. Where applicable, you should try and replace the 2nd support with a tech unit that offers some other team utility. There are a lot of f2p pairs that help with this. E.g. if you're running a physical damage dealer + physical support, then your 3rd can be a unit that sets zone/weather/terrain for that type, or helps with guage (if needed), or helps with any multipliers that your damage dealer needs, or another damage dealer itself that works in the team. A lot of the time if your roster is limited, you can just slap on someone like Kukui who does AoE defense debuffs so your physical damage dealer can output more damage

[lean cosmos]

Ight

So since I really don’t feel like dealing with Bruno again, what teammates should I have for nc red

The main problem is hops hyper kick ohkoing literally anything it hits

[proud axle]

Yeah, that's what Elio or Serena can help address. Locks the two sides and helps chain-lock the boss

[sonic blaze]

sonia, eevee (wouldn't reccomend cause of typing though), may, grimsley (wouldn't recommend cause too much gauge)have flinch... Elio has sleep, there's also 4 stars with hypnosis... so if the problem is that an attack 1 shots you cc that unit first turn with any of the above

then keep perma frozen with NC Red?

[lean cosmos]

I already used Sonia, look at the team image

But you can’t perma freeze turn 1, since his buddy move needs blizzard to go off first

[open copper]

i need help with beating 2.5k fairy type weak, i need team and help what modifiers to use

its also round 3

[sonic blaze]

does the boss have unflappable (unflinchabel)? if not check her grid cause sonia has flinch using the grid... you should be able to stun the boss turn 1 after a few rng's so u have time to use blizzard and then perma freeze

just gotta queue up enough moves so when flinch goes out, your ice beam is already queued for perma freeze.

if it has unflappable, try the same, but use the filter for a sleep unit, i see you have elio... there is also 4 star agatha, and if you have 5 star serena and delphox there is that option as well

[lean cosmos]

I can’t use Sonia

[sonic blaze]

try any of the other units i mentioned above... or use in-game filters to see who can flinch/ sleep. I gave some names above based on your images but there is ghost f2p types with hypnosis u can always use.

if you haven't already

[proud axle]

I thought they still had Serena available

Group-target Hypnosis

Also what score parameters were you using again

[sonic blaze]

with interference immunity flinch is not gonna work, but you can use sleep...

just do this, and sleep the man one shooting you turn 1 while you set up for perma freeze (you have to time red's ice beam to attack after he goes out of sleep, so might take a lil stalling the clock for a few seconds to queue it at a right time)... if you struggle with another thing later let us know but since that was your main concern, this is the fix.

if you take away interference parameter u can try with confusion (though very annoying) or flinch... for similar results.

[lean cosmos]

Nope. Still not working

There’s not any way to know when there gin a wake up and when they do the just attack before I queue a move

[zealous karma]

That team doesn’t have good gauge

[sick inlet]

Don't swap both with sleep

Only 1 sleep

And you still need the unbending/impervious

Everytime Hop hits you, your whole team gets debuffed

1 sync will wipe you

Honestly you don't need sleep units if you don't know how to sleep-chain-turn-skip

[lean cosmos]

I swear it always ends like this

[sonic blaze]

ur timing it wrong also... there is no way to know , but u can wait, the whole idea is getting the ice beam before hop attacks you

[lean cosmos]

But then the side mons kill the sleepers

So I have to keep track of them aswell

[sonic blaze]

like wait a little bit, then queue up your attacks so ice beam hits after his move queues.

[sonic blaze]

ah, if you're having issues with side sleepers that is a whole other beast, thought it was just the center cause that's what u mentioned...

[lean cosmos]

Honeslty I’m prob gonna toss sleep starts to the side and go full throttle

It’s shown the most results

[sonic blaze]

not sure if you've managed to get f2p giovanni's upgrades from the events that happen a few times a year... but if you have I honestly think he's really good. I think you could EX Him f2p, so I would do that. Use NC Red freeze to prevent your team gettign destroyed... sabrina or another support to max giovanni's s.atk... and while red stalls time u sync with giovanni.. and attack the center, Mega mewtwo's dps is pretty good.

I use Lusamine now.. but before my giovanni f2p was able to do good numbers.

[lean cosmos]

No I don’t have gio upgrades

[sonic blaze]

might have issue with gauges though (keeping up ice beam and psystrike or psychic), so would have to test more tbh, i'll do my champion runs till tomorrow so only say what i think for now.

[proud axle]

Atk&SpAtk +5. That looks... dire.

[sonic blaze]

ic, F

[proud axle]

I have an idea for how to make the fight work but I would need to wait until I get home

[lean cosmos]

Thanks game very cool

Never mind let’s goooo

First time 12.5king a CS

[proud axle]

Should I still try out the Serena shenanigans when I get home or

[onyx ice]

I always pick that, but generally i go hyper rush

[zealous karma]

same

[plush tangle]

just in case, it's better to pick +1 and +3 rather than +5 because it's the same amount of points but it results in a lower multiplier

[nocturne pawn]

do attack up 9

[zealous karma]

Most normal 3K params ^

[proud axle]

For what passes as "normal" for 3k to begin with

[dusty path]

Ayy Sigilyph duo is pretty good (with a third, I added Exeggcutor)

[old orchid]

TIL enemies' Double Drop doubles the debuffs from Allies 3 stats down param

[tired sleet]

Wait can you elaborate? Would altiris get double debuffed on herself only?

[nocturne pawn]

as an enemy passive

CHop stage would debuff you by -6 if you chose that parameter

[old orchid]

[nocturne pawn]

aka you instantly die

[nocturne pawn]

i love being -30’d in one turn

for existing

[zealous karma]

goodform happy face

they should have given CHop power loving instead of HI and ItI

[tired sleet]

Ooh ssteven is thriving

[zealous karma]

AniSteven*

I actually woould like to see 3/5 AniSteven with AniSkyla here

[paper summit]

SS Steven also has Downside Up

[zealous karma]

But good form!

[fluid vessel]

Ash showing why he is still the best Striker

[noble plaza]

Should I save gio for hop

[north crown]

looks like you should, especially cuz he's the only great DPS pair you got

he also helps a bit with Hop's gimmick (defensive buffs)

[plush tangle]

[dark osprey]

since this std damage reduction thing, does it seem better not even bother with Sycamore's horn leech master healer on grids mostly?

[proud axle]

You can still use it on Grass weak stages, and he's not bad as a Grass attacker

You can also use it outside of CSMM (e.g. Legendary fights or Extreme Battle Events)

[dark osprey]

True. Just like the most common use has made horn leech kinda less favorable

And now I'm exploring moonblast OAR personally

Like for flint on this psychic CS

[proud axle]

Moonblast OAR came in real handy for me in this week's Kalos League challenge, in fact

Drasna's weak against Fairy and her sync is special.

Combine that with the Added Effects round and Lisia as a partner (Defog and also Moonblast with OAR), and Drasna's sync hit for barely over 100dmg apiece

I won even though I used the wrong grids (I wanted Sycamore to have Team Sharp Entry and forgot to switch him to one with it)

[undone ether]

@valid ivy Rawr

so first thing's first

i need to see what your teams are for your champion stadium fights

[valid ivy]

Wait actually

I have smt better

[undone ether]

yeah

if you have your tracker stuff, that's easier to see through

[valid ivy]

^

[undone ether]

i mean like

[valid ivy]

I think i sent that too here gomme a sec

[undone ether]

whose your teams currently?

for champion stadium

[valid ivy]

^

For limited units

[undone ether]

like any battle notes and whatnot like this

[valid ivy]

For the normal stadium i have

CMarnie/skyla/lucian

Cred/brendan/open

SsKris/celesa/hau (normally use ss kris w cyrus)

SsLyra/sycamore/hop or smt (im gonna try out a team w ss erika but for now this team works great)

[undone ether]

this is for Kalos right?

[valid ivy]

And something on type

Yea

[undone ether]

or the Neo Champion Hop?

okay

whose fighting who?

[valid ivy]

For the special stadium idk my teams yet but i did brendan may sselesa round 1 and got 2.1k but i could have added more

[undone ether]

let's start first with your AnniMay+SSBrendan team

[valid ivy]

I dont know yet lol

[undone ether]

who are you trying to fight?

[valid ivy]

Kahili

For special

[undone ether]

i see hmm

[valid ivy]

For normal stadium i dont use anno may bc i dont know how to

[undone ether]

oh you haven't finished Normal Stadium either? o_o

do you mind if i have a looksee at your entire roster?

including your general pool units

and make sure to reflect your move levels/rarity and whatnot

[valid ivy]

Im not on my computer rn so i cant do the website thing

[undone ether]

ooof.

[valid ivy]

Sry

Ill come back later if its better that way, i dont plan to so it right now anyway lol

[undone ether]

Kahili LOVES to spam ATK

this is what i used

for Kahili, i put her with Tina + NY Dawn

for debuffing a lot.

and Mewtwo's there to just hit hard.

(btw all of my roster is made for postsync)

[valid ivy]

Does bold mean ex?

[undone ether]

yeah Bold are EX

[valid ivy]

O alr

I sadly dont have olympia yet

[undone ether]

You can leave Kahili to like

you can offtype if you dont have the psychic types.

[valid ivy]

I do have nc red and manrie tho

Yea im planning on offtyping for 2-3 teams

[undone ether]

Anni May + SS Brendan against Kahili is bad match up

[valid ivy]

Using cmarnie cred and sslyra

[undone ether]

mostly because Anni May needs setup.

and SS Brendan can't do DEF Ups to the team

and you need a 3rd sync pair to drop ATK very fast.

[valid ivy]

Oh wow ok ill do marshal then bc i destroyed kahili w only 2.1k pts

[undone ether]

mmhmm

[valid ivy]

Marshal should be free 2.5k

Roud 1

[undone ether]

you could do presync

but yeah

[valid ivy]

Alr

Ty

[undone ether]

if Kahili is getting a sync move in

anything you dish on her stats/status

becomes normalized

so you need to be able to drop her stats a LOT

Tina's great for this

since she naturally ahs a good enough bulk + heals for the tema

that's why i chose her for my Round 1

for flint

there's no choice

you HAVE to use SS Kris.

[valid ivy]

ohh

[undone ether]

Or anyone with Anti burning + can buff both SP.DEF + DEF

[valid ivy]

Sa kris only buffs spdef tho (?)

[undone ether]

NC Calem could work, but only if you had an SP.DEF

uh 3/5 SS Kris can buff DEF for the entire team

[valid ivy]

Dont have nc calem

[undone ether]

but mostly SPDEF is needed

[valid ivy]

Ph rip i have 2/5

Alr ima go now ill be back later thanks for the help

[undone ether]

sure

if you're having trouble come back here i suppose

if you post your roster as well

i can at least help with it

[mild hatch]

Gotta love powercreep.

[pseudo drum]

Dang this Malva is really getting on my nerves.
Any suggestions on this.

2.5k points goal

[old orchid]

use special dmg dealers because she has Sentry Entry x2 which doubles base defense

[pseudo drum]

Well I tried CSerena she KOes the centre everytime but the sides get her

And Rose KOes the sides while keeping the centre alive

[old orchid]

oh i forgot Rose has Stone Edge

but in that team no one can tank well

replace Oleana with a healer like Skyla

[pseudo drum]

Everybody can't live without those atk debuffs

[old orchid]

buffing defense is better than atk debuffing because enemies have debuff mitigation

[pseudo drum]

What if I get in Serena Rose and some tank

Which tank should I use?

[old orchid]

read my suggestion above

[pseudo drum]

Skyla isn't EXed

[old orchid]

doesnt matter

[pseudo drum]

Ok

I'll try

Thanks

This ok for 4* skyla?

[silver dirge]

Looks like your standard Potion/Gust staggering kit, yeah

[pseudo drum]

Ok Thanks

Let me try...

[silver dirge]

What were you running with NC Serena?

[pseudo drum]

Malva 2.5k

[silver dirge]

I mean the 2nd and 3rd on your team

[pseudo drum]

?

[silver dirge]

When you tried NC Serena, what were the other 2 pairs on your team? Unless you were attempting a solo

[left storm]

NC Serena sounds like a possible solo candidate for malva ngl

[pseudo drum]

May (rain) and Oleana (debuff)

[silver dirge]

You're lacking a tank on that team too, is your NC Serena 3/5?

[pseudo drum]

2

[old orchid]

thats good enough

all you need to do is using a tank

[silver dirge]

She's got unfortunate strike she can set up a pretty good nuke on her own

Ungridded, no crit nuke

[pseudo drum]

Hoogh
Finally did 2.5
Thank you very much guys

[old orchid]

||most sane Serena fan||

[pseudo drum]

Nice 👍🏻🔥👍🏻

[silver dirge]

[zealous karma]

You need weather as well

[old orchid]

they did it anyway

[zealous karma]

Oh swagger

Swagger

[twilit kiln]

I've been stuck on trying to clear Marshall on 2500 for the past few days

Anyone got suggestion for team? I'm saving Red Articuni for hop

Other than that I am willing to use any unit ;;

[silver dirge]

You've got some very strong off-type contenders here, have you tried em? If so, what issue are you facing? E.g. not enough damage, dying too early etc

3/5 SS Lyra + SS Erika + physical support should do the trick with a breeze

[twilit kiln]

when i try pre sync, i get wiped on sync since im not doing enough damage

[silver dirge]

What parameters are you using?

[twilit kiln]

when i do post sync, i cant clear cuz not enough damage

the ones in the pin

but i tried all of them\

with so many different combis of teams

but i keep failing ;;

[silver dirge]

And you're adjusting the params for your teams each time? E.g. physical vs special damage reduction

[twilit kiln]

yea

for marshall i onyl tried with specials since apparently it has high defen

[silver dirge]

2.5k psychic CS Marshall, right?

[twilit kiln]

yea

[silver dirge]

Give me a couple mins

[left storm]

Lvl 1 3/5 Gloria