Champion Stadium

[old orchid]

read her passives

[valid ivy]

her stat debuffing?

[old orchid]

yes

since she has terrain, she is automatically good paired with Electric dmg dealers

[valid ivy]

off the top of my head i cant think of anyone who benefits from that more than everyone else does

besides hre

[old orchid]

her debuffs help setting up debuff-based multipliers of course, or just helps boosting dmg by a little

just look at your Electric roster and find some dmg dealers

[trail smelt]

Oh you know what I should actually check to see what Hop does before deciding which team to use on him lol

Oh that’s a lot of stat drops

[valid ivy]

volkner and hau are my only 2 usable ones

[old orchid]

Volkner isnt a dmg dealer tho, he leans towards utility side

but Hau is good

iirc you have NC Blue right? Just use him, Hau and CElesa in a team

[valid ivy]

no nc blue sadly

[old orchid]

any spatk + crit support works

[valid ivy]

this my roster

[valid ivy]

so like alakazam?

[old orchid]

yeah

[valid ivy]

which parameters

i tried picking full hp and did 0 damage

[old orchid]

depends on your playstyle

[valid ivy]

wdym by that

[old orchid]

dont do max hp if you dont know what are you doing

check the pins for recommended param sets

i suggest going for pre sync sets because the team isnt bulky

[valid ivy]

on type pre sync more damage?

or more hp

is sabrina a good tank

[old orchid]

she is on frailer side

[valid ivy]

oh so more hp?

[old orchid]

not necessary using Alakazam, i see you have Melony & Lapras too

[valid ivy]

i use her w cmarnie

[old orchid]

how about trying each set first to see which is easier / suits you more?

[valid ivy]

hm ok

ty

[old orchid]

CMarnie needs very little support, so you should move Melony out

she can afford weak tanks like Rosa

[valid ivy]

i only have her 2/5 so she doesnt do much damage offtype

so i need defensive support like melony

or maybe im pickign wrong parameters

[old orchid]

its the latter

you can do Lucian + CMarnie + any defensive tank which depends on the stage

[valid ivy]

would i go hp or damage set, or does that also depend on the stage?

also what are examples of good free defensive tanks bc the ones i use cant take hits

[old orchid]

Skyla, Misty, BP Morty...

[valid ivy]

misty?

and who

[proud axle]

It's just Def and Speed. Skyla has innate Haste and easily-griddable Unbending. This doesn't fully protect against the one sidekick with Team Defense Crush, but her TM gives your team a big +Def head start so they'll be good for several rounds before their Def falls into the negatives (where the debuff amp round parameter would make things dangerous).
Hop's own weakpoints are Lucian's Growl debuffs (Atk and SpDef); since Lucian continually gives Speed from Growling, you can pair him with an Unbending (or Impervious) Def buffer instead of using Skyla.

[proud axle]

and who
Morty from the BP tickets. Morty & Mismagius.

[valid ivy]

he also mentinoed misty

i have that morty but no 4 star tickets atm

[proud axle]

I clicked the wrong one, sorry

Regular Misty is a SpDef tank; Psyduck Misty has both defenses

The problem with HP score parameters is that they multiply with each other, and it can get out of hand fast. The same is true of the Atk or Def parameters.
"Strength" does not multiply with itself, so that's the one we usually pick a lot to stack up.

[valid ivy]

wait they do

i thoguht it was additive

thats kinda dumb

[valid ivy]

so psyduck misty?

wait why does her trainer move have one mp

[proud axle]

Sycamore/Xerneas is also a SpDef tank (and in teams that want SpAtk and Speed, it's worth giving him the first sync even without EX)

[old orchid]

Swimsuit Misty is best used when the stage has mixed moves, same to BP Morty

[proud axle]

Honestly, the first two stacks of each buff are the biggest anyway

[old orchid]

OG Misty is best used on special-focused stage, like last week Malva

[proud axle]

The buff scaling is different in this game than in the main series

1: +25%
2: +40%
3: +50%
4: +60%
5: +70%
6: +80%

The first two buff stacks are worth as much as the next four buff stacks

More buff stacks are still better, but 2 is enough-- especially if you don't expect the enemy to hit you with debuffs to remove them

[valid ivy]

how much do theme skills matter

does og misty need move levels

also what grid do i use for lucian since im not using his sync nuke

[silver dirge]

Nice boost sometimes but team synergy > theme skills

[silver dirge]

If you're not nuking with Lucian then as far as I can remember grid doesn't matter he does all his debuffing @ base

[valid ivy]

so no grid needed?

o

k

back to celesa tea, hau/celesa/melony good?

[grand trout]

How many gems are we getting from pasio cs

[silver dirge]

500

[grand trout]

Is this siebold

Siebold is mixed, so you might want to have def buffers

[valid ivy]

?

oh

wait so who should i use for a tank

[grand trout]

How about ss blue

[valid ivy]

dont have

when i searched up who to get for that ticket everyone said ss red in reddit 3 years ago

maybe should have researched a bit more ngl

also when should i fight siebold

[silver dirge]

SS Blue is generally the more recommended option now because of Silver & his powerboost

[grand trout]

What's your support roster?

I can't think of a good support off the top of my head

[valid ivy]

^

kris is w cyrus team

and brendan w red

nc red

generally the teams i use are based around cmarnie, cred, sslyra, cryus, and some on type damage dealer

i was thinking of trying mc solageo for this fighting weak enemy instead of cyrus

[grand trout]

How about hop

[valid ivy]

normal hop?

yea hes not really a part of any team although i do like using him w ss lyra

but hes probably replaceable

[noble plaza]

Why can't Olivia finish mid off?

[devout sluice]

The stage is mostly physical defensive I think?

[trail smelt]

Oh right iirc Malva has Sentry Entry x2?

[silver dirge]

She can, what params are you running?

https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1153583498687414283/1153744819366150175

you may or may not to quad queue straight after sync depending on the params you run

[noble plaza]

This is one im trying right now

[silver dirge]

okay you've got a lotta strength in there, which could still work, but you can make it easier by picking up some more attack and dropping off some strength. The main thing to look out for though will be strong moves from the opponent, you might have to reset a couple times

[fluid vessel]

PERMANENT FIELD

[fluid vessel]

stonks

[silver dirge]

ayee perma field effects

finally

[grand trout]

Good numbers? This one wasn't ff-activated

Also forgive cs1 kek

[manic kiln]

This one is so easy easier than fire for sure

[wide adder]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-i-get-it-i-dont-get-it-dont-get-it-i-do-not-get-it-gif-21957605

Why the hell does it say part 1

[devout sluice]

Wait I just noticed that as well, probably a mistranslation.

[gritty nymph]

Ok so am I crazy or did the cs feel like

[grand trout]

If this blackbelt uses hammer arm once again i will ivy cudgel the fuck out of him

[gritty nymph]

It had none of the parameters that you selected

Cause i’ve never had a 2.5k die so fast

[wide adder]

Psychic type is a type that’s busted even as f2p

[gritty nymph]

It made me double check if I even had the parameters or not but they are on

[wide adder]

Yet without fire/water beef ups

[gritty nymph]

Not even that offtyping was easiest thing ever

[teal pawn]

What's with challenge flint part 1 in new cs event

[wide adder]

That’s what I’m asking lmao. Anyways any importance in fight order?

[versed meteor]

Game is absolutely unplayable, apologems when

[teal pawn]

[gritty nymph]

No yeah this cs was really easy huh

[versed meteor]

Leaf

[gritty nymph]

Round 3 is the sync accel one

And round 4 is field permanent so other then that not really

[grand trout]

i was denied of a crit nuke two times in a row

[gritty nymph]

I feel that

Yesterday I missed 7 with bp valarie on drasna

[teal pawn]

I just no brain offtype flint

[gritty nymph]

Yeah this psychic cs is really really easy

[teal pawn]

Thank goodness for that cause even with on type in last event it still was rough

[sick inlet]

Do hop and tell me it's easy

Tbh

It all was

[gritty nymph]

Especially with the amount of limited psychic pairs people probably picked up over time and even with out that

General pool

And even without that gio

And even without gio

Its was really just a breeze through a park

[teal pawn]

I ll take my time clearing this

[trail smelt]

Aww yiss psychic weak monotyped. Some teams… fared better than others lol. The Hoenn trio was especially off to use Vs Hop haha. But a single reset still won me the victory.

So happy that only Flint was here haha

Nobody from Hoenn and Kalos

[gritty nymph]

Flint being the only special attacker was funny

[sick inlet]

Blaziken and Infernape

Special time

I mean Infernape is mixed even in the actual game

[gritty nymph]

Oh kahli has a special attack too

That I never saw

[wide adder]

Is it just me or is will super weak for stored power dmg

Or am I mistaking his move for a different one

Thought he had same as Bianca’s move

But he barely does shit lol

[keen jasper]

Does he have Psychic Terrain active?

[wide adder]

No I was trying to save terrain for r4/5 or maybe 3/4

Im only on r1 and was using a support ex

Example of random team I was testing him in

Also don’t understand his tm at all

[keen jasper]

I think that's why his Stored Power is low, his potential

[wide adder]

I don’t have the silver pus for him I used them on lodge n lmao

[wide adder]

Huh. Decided to toy with oak in first time in over a year. First time I’ve actually used this Janine, and I think she’s almost perfect for filling his needs… just posting incase anyone else looking for a side with oak

[grand trout]

Not having support ex is so weird

[lucid igloo]

Had to EX 3 people but oh well

[vast dome]

Siebold is so bulky omg

[undone ether]

damn

had to retry on Kahili and Flint 😦

Bruno. you are going down. Hard. 😐

[mild hatch]

I’m gonna wait for a F2P guide lmao

[main crow]

Smh 36.6k compensation when

[dusty yarrow]

""Field""-ish SS Steven

[tribal saddle]

Easy mono type 12.5k

[versed meteor]

Its quite frankly disgusting how defensively weak Giovanni is

90% from marshal sync with +6 defence and Marshal had reduced defence so no towering force

[dusty yarrow]

Marshal the unit or Marshal the CS Opponent? Im kinda sure CS Mashal don't have any gimmicks other than the weird Posthaste 2 and that's it

[versed meteor]

Oh ok thought he had towering force because of we had to watch for defence increase

[left storm]

Thanks for the 2v3 idea

[versed meteor]

Lucian going on a nuking spree, the problem with lucian is that there are not enough lucians

[left storm]

After support ex will does 17k on sync on +8 STR

Consider him since he does DPS

[keen jasper]

The problem is that he has no PT setters

[left storm]

Unlike lucian

[sick inlet]

Is it me or does Hop Crit way too much?

[keen jasper]

Eh, not really

[keen jasper]

Not sure

[sick inlet]

I am in like 15th restart (doing duos) he's critting nonstop. No crit modifiers on him

Like no crit plus
No crit next etc

[dusty yarrow]

I just used Lucian as a debuffer mostly (especially when he was 1/5... 2/5 however is something... tho takes a long time to set-up)

[keen jasper]

Thunderous Kick doesn't even have innate extra crit chance

[sick inlet]

It's not even thunderous kick

He crits everything lol

[dusty yarrow]

and he wasn't even supposed to be the "striker" of the team... (Its the eggmon )

[sick inlet]

Lucian Nuke is amazingg

Just growl tm Nuke
Growl tm nuke

Don't even need to hit confusion

[keen jasper]

He doesn't even have Dire Hit in his kit

Probably major bad luck

[sick inlet]

Bruh I never hated crit in my life

[keen jasper]

Imagine permament critting in the mainline pokemon games

[dusty yarrow]

I didn't struggle much on Hop... I struggled more on Flint than the champ
But yeah, a random crit out of nowhere like a RKO sucks... like Bruno's Earthquake Crit for no reason

[keen jasper]

15% AoE crit chance

[sick inlet]

The whole thing is easy
I am just redoing it in 2v3s
And hop won't stop critting me

But I finally got it over with ffs

[left storm]

Meowscarada:

[keen jasper]

Flower Trick + Extend Range

[sick inlet]

Imagine if extended range was a thing in mainline game lol.

[dusty yarrow]

I can only think VGC would be impacted the most if that exist

[gritty nymph]

Dear god you mitigate the spread move dmg nerf too

[dusty yarrow]

Anyway... Probably have to plan Off-type Last Week Kalos CS
w/ Extra Steps

[hushed sorrel]

Feeling lazy with thinking this week. Anyone already thought through best Round order lol?

[dusty yarrow]

Neo Champ - Psychic or Week 3 Kalos?

If Neo Champ - Psychic
Don't probably R2 Flint (iirc R2 is Status Cond. more effective)

Maybe don't R3 (Half-Sync) Flint either

[teal pawn]

Kahili with clean state and offense buffs got me off guard, I was thinking to save on type for hop but decided to screw it

[dusty yarrow]

iirc, Kahili also has lower Offensive base stat (base Atk & Sp. Atk) than the Sides

[teal pawn]

She covers that with sync with max buffs

Debuff had 0 value cause of that

[loud stratus]

Are eggmon strikers viable for the psychic weak cs? I only have mewtwo and deoxys as reliable psychic dps

[sick inlet]

What's your roster like?

[sand karma]

Lucian? Mew? Bianca?

[hushed sorrel]

@quaint wind so any game plan for Bp Soph on Elesa fight?

[quaint wind]

I cleared it

This morning

After an insane amount of resets

[hushed sorrel]

Im going to do it, if you give me the quick and dirty summary haha

[quaint wind]

Also wrong forum lmfao

[hushed sorrel]

O sheeeet

[quaint wind]

We are in CS

[hushed sorrel]

loololol

[quaint wind]

Hahahahah

[mortal dirge]

Dang flint is ducked up

And I don’t have Deoxys

[swift swan]

Giovanni should work just fine as long as he's gridded

[loud stratus]

These are all my psychic pairs

[nocturne pawn]

mfw caitlin isnt reliable dps

she’s literally gaugeless on type

[loud stratus]

She is? Neat

[nocturne pawn]

did you look at her expansion

its very good

[loud stratus]

I think I tried her out in a psychic weak cs a few weeks ago (i think against flint), she did fine but required a reset or two

Oh yeah super freebie 9

Furious brawn too

Just need a crit buffer and tanky support then

[nocturne pawn]

…she does crit too

[steel kelp]

Caitlin casually doing everything

[loud stratus]

Oops, missed that. Her expanded grid's good

[manic kiln]

exactly 15 units and I can clear with mono team using those but you don't have to like half of them can be used as dps, lucian can nuke, same for bianca and will and their store power can do some nice dmg, caitlin as some people mentioned, mewtwo and steven, more than 5 teams already

[silver dirge]

Yeah they've been doing great with expanded grids

[loud stratus]

How would you make Tate work?

[swift swan]

tate can flinch

[nocturne pawn]

dont

[hazy tusk]

I mean

There's a stage that recommends flinch

[dark osprey]

and probably bring SC Steven if you have him

[valid ivy]

Im doing a post sync grid preset with skyla marnie and lucian on drasna but i just get one shot after the sync

Im on the first round

Anyone know whats wrong or have reccomendations

[dark osprey]

would be better to go pre sync or get rid of the dragon zone she sets before sync

[loud stratus]

Which Marnie? Grimsnarl?

[valid ivy]

Cmarnie

Nc

[valid ivy]

Ill try presync, i dont have a zone setter that works with marnie

[dark osprey]

isn't first round the quicker sync one?

[loud stratus]

Aren't drasna's moves special? So lucian debuff isn't as effective?

[dark osprey]

then maybe bring Lisia, Darach or BP Falkner if you have them to defog her zone

[silver dirge]

Lucian is going for spdef debuffs

[valid ivy]

Yea

[silver dirge]

Yes the attack debuffs aren't too useful

[valid ivy]

Oh

Wait so who shuld i use this team for

Rock weak stage?

[loud stratus]

Anyone tried Will and Xatu with the five start up 3 option to max all his stats from the beginning?

[mortal dirge]

How did you beat Hop with that team? Sabrina gets almost 1 shot

[tribal saddle]

I tank with Bianca

[loud stratus]

@valid ivy do you not have any fairy dps?

[valid ivy]

No

Sadlt

[nocturne pawn]

get bp valerie

[sick inlet]

Caitlin is soooooooooooooooood good.

Put Will on a team with Crit, he does well too.

Mewtwo 3rd dps

Steven 4th dps

Bianca 5th dps, give her crit too

Lucian, easy Nukes. Just growl everything TM sync, repeat.

[loud stratus]

Sycamore can do decent fairy damage with his moonblast post-sycn

[valid ivy]

Thats my last bp ticket, is it really worth it?

If it is ill get her

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[loud stratus]

I haven't tried bp valerie but she looks good

[mortal dirge]

Can you send grids?

[sick inlet]

BP Valerie is better than OG Valerie

[loud stratus]

You'll want to use candies to get her to 3/5 if you don'r have tickets

[sick inlet]

I never use tickets on copies. Except when we had 0 support candies back in the day

[valid ivy]

What grid

Also rip these r my last 4 star strike candies

Also i dont have 4 star power up tickets

[silver dirge]

Can't really go wrong with the grid tbh, pick up all the sync stuff and some play rough

[sick inlet]

Are you doing the non-event CS?

[dark osprey]

maybe they have Lodge Lillie already? She's good enough I guess

[loud stratus]

That's why she came back with "Might you forgive me"

[mortal dirge]

Bianca gets fucked in 3 turns

[sick inlet]

Give her regn on Terrain and weird vibes

What's your gameplan?

[loud stratus]

Complete the challenge battles in events and eventually you'll have more 3* and 4* candies than you need

[tribal saddle]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009500057900&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=21010101&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFERIUICEnKiwuLzAxMjM0NQ&v1=011400006500&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFERMaGxwdICEjJikqKyw&v2=010200051800&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=11111&g2=AAECAwQFBggLDA0ODxUYGxw

I take half ally HP

[valid ivy]

Who do i use valerie w

[loud stratus]

She self buffs atk and crit so you just need a tank

[tribal saddle]

If it's too hard I guess you can take support double damage and gamble on no earthquake

[loud stratus]

And maybe a defogger to clear dragon zone

[valid ivy]

What would be a good tank

And a defogger/zone setter

[sick inlet]

Good tank you have Hop, Sycamore. Are there any steel weak stages this weak? If no just use hop.
Defog there is Darach

[valid ivy]

Who is darach

[sick inlet]

Butler guy

[valid ivy]

And ok thanks

Who doe she have

[sick inlet]

Staraptor

He has Staraptor

Flying type

[rose ermine]

Decent nuke from calem

[valid ivy]

K thanks

[loud stratus]

Bp falkner can defog too, but you said you only have 1 ticket

Btw how does falkner have 2 birds and none of them are from johto

[proud axle]

Morty's and Fantina's first partner mons were from each others' regions, too

[valid ivy]

I kinda lied witbout realizing i have 2 lol

[loud stratus]

Also Spectrier is a f2p zone setter, who doesn't help in any other cs stages this week

[proud axle]

Spectrier vs Drasna's presync Dragon Zone? That would require EX and also timing the sync weird

[valid ivy]

Wait if darach debuffs attack wouldnt that be bad for valerie

[valid ivy]

Csnt u use max move

Also I already have the 20/20 but i dont think I actually exed yet

Yea i didnt

[loud stratus]

He debuffs enemies, not allies.

[valid ivy]

I meant drasna lol

Oops

[loud stratus]

Well you want darach mostly for defog, then maybe his speed buff. The atk debuff isn't much useful here

[proud axle]

Hm? Does he have a passive for that? I don't see one

[valid ivy]

Yea mb i thought he did

My only other zone setters i csn think of are ss lyra and celesa

But ss lyra can solo a stage so i dont want to use it for this

And celesa for electroc weak stage

[proud axle]

If it were entry zone, then sure, he'd overwrite it as soon as he shows up. Drasna waits until right before sync, though...

SSLyra is Terrain instead of Zone, I think?

Terrain and Zone don't overwrite each other, they coexist

Weather is in the sky, Terrain is on the ground, and Zone is the area in between.

...I think CElesa is also Terrain

[valid ivy]

Grass terrain isnt the same as grass zone?

Same w celesa

?

[proud axle]

Grass zone does not exist because Grass Terrain does its purpose

[loud stratus]

That's the first time I've seen this explanation, and it actually makes sense

[valid ivy]

Oh bruh

[proud axle]

Zones only exist for types that don't have damage-boosting weather or terrain

[valid ivy]

Wait so you can literally have a weather zone and terrain all at once

[proud axle]

You can have Dragon Zone, Grassy Terrain, and Hail at the same time if you wanna be weird

[valid ivy]

Bru

Ok back to my team, if i have all level 135s would i survive

Using hop valerie darach

[proud axle]

You need either Defog or another Zone if you want to get rid of the enemy's Zone. That's what makes this tricky. Can't flinch the Dragon Zone either, since Zones come from items (so it's a trainer move instead of the mon doing it)

Lemme look up BP Valerie's moveset, I think I remember she's--

Wait, Fairy weakpoint? Is Lisia/Altaria available?

I don't see why Darach's Atk debuffs would make Val worse?

[sick inlet]

It wouldn't

If anything it's better since then Val can tank breaking swipe better

[valid ivy]

I meant drasna

Bc drasna is special

Dmg

[valid ivy]

Yea

[proud axle]

She has Defog and more importantly Moonblast!

Sycamore, Lisia, and a crit buffer might work

They can also do this cool trick that I can't type out fast enough rn (poor signal on the train)

Sycamore uses his TM to give the team regen
Sycamore takes a few hits
Lisia uses her TM to make the enemy aim at her for a few turns
Sycamore regens while Lisia takes hits
When the retargeting effect expires, Lisia can regen while Sycamore tanks the next few hits

[valid ivy]

Wait so there was no need for valerie

Rip

[valid ivy]

I use sycamore for my ss lyra team, any replacements?

[loud stratus]

Why ss lyra? There's no grass weak stage this week

[loud stratus]

She'll still be useful for a fairy weak cs stage with wise entry x2

[proud axle]

Not really. He is also a powerful Fairy attacker (Fairy Power 5 passive) and he gives a massive set of important buffs with his sync. I'd sooner replace him for SSLyra than for Fairy attacking

[sick inlet]

She can offtype

Any stage

In the whole game as long as it doesn't have condition resilience thing

[loud stratus]

Huh, i haven't tried to offtype since standard damage reduction was introduced. Poison stall doesn't count

[zealous karma]

I only have strength params

Wth

[nocturne pawn]

sus

[proud axle]

I offtyped Round 1 this week (just crammed three Water Master Pairs into one team and literally rained all over Malva's parade)

[sick inlet]

Replace Calem with Lucian if you still have him

[main crow]

Isn't that just scope lens + focus energy

[keen jasper]

Every turn no buffing

[proud axle]

Richu
Replace Calem
uh... good luck convincing them of that

[zealous karma]

I’m not replacing the unit that solo’d the stage

He did 32k first sync my beloved

[nocturne pawn]

why is flint challenge part 1

💀

[zealous karma]

Goat gamer

[nocturne pawn]

also bro has like 40k hp with str 9

[sick inlet]

Lool

[zealous karma]

Part 2 coming soon to a theater near you (his offenses have doubled)

Wrong reply how did that even happen that message is way above

[main crow]

Can't wait for his fireblast to oneshot support without crit

[zealous karma]

He already does that but now he has extend range

[proud axle]

Flint was on Pasio since launch, and had years to observe and prepare for the rest of the Sinnoh League's arrival. And it shows

[loud stratus]

How do you do sync nukes reliably? Don't you need to sync at least 3 times for mid and sides? That seems way too long

[proud axle]

Oh, you bring a proper striker to wipe out the sides after nuke

[valid ivy]

What about replacements for the ss lyra team?

[proud axle]

Or nuke with EX Striker

[zealous karma]

I also didn’t have Lucian he was carrying whatever oak does

[proud axle]

Eh, SSLyra is mixed (her sync is special) so the team doesn't have to be phys grass. Could be special grass

[loud stratus]

Giovanni with persian, or falkner with swellow

[proud axle]

Could add, say, Silver for Solarbeam shenanigans

SSErika, if she wasn't already on the team

Regular Lyra

All three of which are sun-focused, but grass has a lot of sun-loving units

Bless the update last year that allowed us to run both Lyras together

[loud stratus]

At that point just wipe out the opponents with your striker. I'm wondering how people do it with tech nukes that don't have dps, like lucian

Or calem, like in the pic above

[proud axle]

...Anniversary May is in the photo. Mist Ball isn't that weak.

[twilit kiln]

which unit is effective for hop in the new challenge?

attack down?

[proud axle]

Lucian hits his debuff weakpoints
Skyla can grid to be immune to Hop's debuffs (Haste innate, Unbending near the center)
Add a self-sufficient Psychic attacker

[twilit kiln]

which one was Lucian again?

[proud axle]

Girafarig

Looks like this but slightly less evil

[twilit kiln]

i dont have grid unlocked

for it ;;

is taht fine?

[proud axle]

His innates do all the work

Gridless is alright

[twilit kiln]

okie

and all my characters are 125

except by articuno red

its 140 ex unlocked with full grid

will that be ok?

[proud axle]

That's fine, there's a wholeass thread somewhere of a guy including a Lv1 eggmon in each team

[twilit kiln]

bruh

xP

[loud stratus]

I just noticed this. Why?

[proud axle]

[twilit kiln]

flint actually becomes a water type gym leader at part 2

[main crow]

English dena team has been kinda of a slump (?) lately tbh

[proud axle]

If we're lucky, Part 2 is just Flint standing there staring into space, too exhausted to move or respond. As he does.

[loud stratus]

Flint will change his weaknes in part 2

[proud axle]

Flint Part 2: SURPRISE, IT'S JUST MOLTRES' LEGENDARY ARENA FIGHT

[twilit kiln]

Flint part 2: He has an actual gun as his pokemon that "FIRES" at you ruthlessly

[proud axle]

This Pokémon exists and it's Water-type

[main crow]

Ez win then

[proud axle]

2.5k modifiers on Moltres tho

Just flinch-lock I guess

Flint(ch)

[main crow]

Celebi

[twilit kiln]

do u have grid screenshot for skyla by any chance?

[keen jasper]

Nah, it's a damn owl

[twilit kiln]

do u have cycle for hop with that team?

[keen jasper]

[proud axle]

Get Unbending

That's it, you're done

Unbending and Haste on the tank, will block the vast majority of Hop's bullshit

One of his sidekicks has Team Def Crush 9. That's the only debuff that should get through (because it hits all at once rather than needing to succeed on the tank and then propagate via Ripple Effect)

[keen jasper]

Just use Jasmine

[proud axle]

But Skyla's TM adds +Def so you have a huge head start anyway

[proud axle]

Wasn't it the other Jasmine that had Clang

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-pickle-thatsapickle-spongebob-patrick-gif-20410132

[proud axle]

Thing is I'm not sure everyone has Jasmine. But everyone has Skyla and IIRC Unbending is 1/5

[grand trout]

I used tate in master mode cs

I'm proud of that

[proud axle]

And if they don't have Skyla, they can't access Champion Stadium anyway

[twilit kiln]

Andrew Tate?

[proud axle]

Tate is not to be underestimated

[keen jasper]

Yes

[proud axle]

Uneresti-tate-d

[grand trout]

...so anyways

[proud axle]

A manchild rather than an actual child?

[grand trout]

I really don't like calling attention to that guy anymore than he does rn

He's a scumbag

[twilit kiln]

i just tried this but i got wiped

whats the skill cycle?

[proud axle]

Who's the third member?

[twilit kiln]

caitlin

but it says the three pokemons stats cant be lowered

[grand trout]

Are you quadqueueing

[twilit kiln]

when i use growl

[grand trout]

Check your params

[twilit kiln]

and my skyla gets two shot

[proud axle]

...Why are you using No Stat Reduction with Lucian

[twilit kiln]

Do i use Sync moves quickly

[proud axle]

No

[grand trout]

No

Try dync buffs

[twilit kiln]

status?

[grand trout]

Sync*

[twilit kiln]

no i mean the one that i have to choose

out of 4

[grand trout]

Yes

The first one

[twilit kiln]

ok

[grand trout]

Sync buffs are more effective

[proud axle]

The one for using Syncs quickly is probably the most dangerous one in the game. Because the enemy gets their sync after three turns.

If you choose that one on purpose, you'd better have a really good plan for how to weaponize it

[grand trout]

What did you use for that round, giga?

I used it to have mewtwo mega quickly

[proud axle]

I haven't done it yet but I'd probably choose either Sync Amp or Permanent Fields

Eh, Mewtwo doesn't need his mega unless you want phys attacks for some reason

[grand trout]

I did it for the flair

I didn't use psystrike afterwards either, marshal has high defense

I can use lussamine but like

This CS is easy anyway

[twilit kiln]

yea idk

i keep getting wiped even with debuff

[grand trout]

What are your params!

Are you quadqueueing?

[twilit kiln]

whats quad queueing

[keen jasper]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[grand trout]

Oh lol

[twilit kiln]

i have physical dmg reduc, max syn -1, attack+1, no status condition, interference immun, tech syn take 3x damage, physical damage reduction 8, cant change zone, max sync cd -2,

[grand trout]

I read this just now

Usually u just button mash

[twilit kiln]

im at 1250 rn and i need 750 for 2000

[proud axle]

What parameters are you using, again

[grand trout]

Oooh. Remove max sync cd-2

[grand trout]

This one @proud axle

[steel kelp]

Why would you have tech take more damage

[twilit kiln]

where do i get the extra 50 then

cuz my strike gets one shot from sync if i put it on strike

[proud axle]

...Why not Special dmg reduction. You can bypass with critical hits

[grand trout]

How about strength +x params

[steel kelp]

Standard damage reduction

[grand trout]

And attack+x

[steel kelp]

Like there’s plenty of ways that give more than 50 points

[twilit kiln]

caitlin doesnt have crit boost

[steel kelp]

Tm

[grand trout]

She does in her tm

If you grid her

[twilit kiln]

its 1/5

[grand trout]

Oh

[twilit kiln]

will be better if i just use red articuno

its 140 and full grid

with ex

my caitlin is 120 with no grid

no ex

[steel kelp]

There’s nothing stopping you from off type the whole cs if you want

[proud axle]

Red is a Tech. You need to overhaul your whole parameter set anyway.

[steel kelp]

He’s strike

Leaf is the tech

[twilit kiln]

red is strike

[grand trout]

You'd need to revise your params regardless

[proud axle]

Oh

I might be thinking RedChu after using him for High Score

There is a pinned post with parameter recommendations

My preliminary team. Hoping Blue can just outpace the Def debuffs with XDef All

...I thought I posted that like ten minutes ago

Gods, my reception is horrible here

[twilit kiln]

i just cleared it in 10 turns with articuno lol

bruhl...

[proud axle]

How many points?

[twilit kiln]

750

2000 total

i dont have many units

[grand trout]

Well, if that works for you

[twilit kiln]

so i had to take less from the first 4

[steel kelp]

Just cause special cs focuses a specific weakness doesn’t mean you have to follow it

[left storm]

This took like 50 resets

[proud axle]

That's not many. Redcuno should be able to 2500 a round on his own due to guaranteed Freeze

[left storm]

Fucking hell why does Tate not flinch even with aggr1 and condition

[proud axle]

And I think 1500 is extremely easy these days?

[grand trout]

I have this ss

Oops wrong one

[twilit kiln]

i started 5 days ago

[twilit kiln]

lol

[left storm]

I did 17k

In my run

On mid

-3 Def, flinching

I could do more but mid is not bulky and has clean slate so...

[proud axle]

Red can still probably get you a 2.5k clear because 100% freeze is that overpowered

[grand trout]

Tbf mine was stacked with seun and pmun

[left storm]

Mine was second sync and with STR+6

[grand trout]

I retried a lot more for flint

[left storm]

Was mid not flinching?

[grand trout]

Fucking fire blast + wood hammer getting my tank

[left storm]

Without flinch I was doing 12k so that kinda checks out

[grand trout]

It does, but they recover just in time for the sync 😦

[left storm]

Kahili is weak to flinch

[grand trout]

Yeah it was kahili

[left storm]

Lessen 4 only

[zealous karma]

Inchresting I did more

[grand trout]

I did zen headbutt 5 turns into sync move

[left storm]

Weird, she'd flinch for 2-3 side moves

For me

I was R2

[grand trout]

Yeah it was without the flinch extra + it's only cs1

[proud axle]

Hm? Even if it didn't, flinch doesn't prevent sync. You can cast a sync while flinching/sleeping/frozen and it'll self-cure to do it.

[zealous karma]

I had trap and def debuffs but psychic rebuff should make up for it

[grand trout]

I mean by the time i sync, kahili isn't flinching anymore so foul fighting doesn't give extra damage

[proud axle]

Oh

...Wait, why would Foul Fighting improve your sync

[left storm]

You mean Interfere sync 5?

[grand trout]

Yeah

Lol

[zealous karma]

He has sync interfenve

[proud axle]

That makes more sense, thank you

[left storm]

I skipped sde5 for foul fighting 9 in my clear

[loud stratus]

Oak is the 2nd tankiest def psychic pair i have, only surpassed by nc bede

[left storm]

I might've won faster if I had sde5

[grand trout]

I thought that doesn't affect syncs

[proud axle]

Oak used to be a tanking MVP back when Villa was new

[left storm]

Yeah but

DPS would've been more consistent

[grand trout]

Ah i see

[left storm]

Btw, my Tate is 4*0/20

[grand trout]

Same

[proud axle]

Getting back to the five-day-old account trying this out...
Does TheGamingEevee do "fresh account" runs or do they only do "F2P veteran" runs

[rotund lagoon]

F2P veteran. Aurochs does the fresh ones.

[sick inlet]

He does F2P veterans

[proud axle]

Ah, cool. So maybe Aurochs can throw something together for Joe

[sick inlet]

I am good ty

[proud axle]

The other Joe

[sick inlet]

5 days old account though

[loud stratus]

Didn't have to poison stall after all. But i somehow missed 500 points

[sick inlet]

Even with busted units from recent banners will not be able to do so well because of lack of resources

[proud axle]

Indeed, but I think even that can do better than 2k across all five rounds

[sick inlet]

It's gonna be very tedious

Well better than 2k true

[proud axle]

Also the newbie has Neo Red, so that's one round with 2.5k taken care of (Freeze hax!)

[sick inlet]

But in general MM will be a struggle especially in anything that isn't Kanto/Johto/Unova

[loud stratus]

5 days old means they don't even have mewtwo ex? That's tough

[sick inlet]

They probably didn't even get the chance to properly get the free units running rn

[proud axle]

Yeah, I still think they can shoot for 6-10k though

[sick inlet]

Because too much in the same time

[proud axle]

Flint and Hop are the main threats here. Flint might not be freeze-hax-able (many fire moves self-cure Freeze) but Hop can.

[grand trout]

Oh fuck flint

More specifically, fuck his side

He used wood hammer 9/10 times

[sick inlet]

HE4 too lol

[grand trout]

Ah, i brought misty for that so it's not much of a problem

[trail smelt]

I did a very stupid Hop fight haha

[grand trout]

I'm more pissed off at the wood hammer making ss brendan 1/8 of his health

[trail smelt]

The twins just can’t tank Hop when he’s serious

[grand trout]

I don't understand, what's stupid about this?

All i see is a GOAT team

[sick inlet]

It's fine SSteven fully buffed by the time he is hit

Just kill all innate rising tide

[twilit kiln]

oh i just read everything

uhh

[grand trout]

I'm dumb, but what form is ssteven here

[twilit kiln]

i actually whaled

alot

like i think i spent 500$ so far

so i have units

but i dont have game knowledge as much

i just liked collecting units since i like the birbs and shaymin

my fav pokes

[grand trout]

Well you've come to the right place

[twilit kiln]

but now i cant clear any thing

with what seems to be average or less for what units i have

[grand trout]

If you need help there are pins in #poma-questions

[twilit kiln]

cuz i dont really know any mechanics or how to properly build a team against certain enemies

[proud axle]

Have you done the Victory Road tutorials yet?

[twilit kiln]

i read the teambuilding guide

and everything

yea

but idk which units and teams have gimics like "oh i need to lower attack"

[old orchid]

Victory Road should teach you about basic gameplay

[proud axle]

Alright, good... do you know about triple-queuing?

[twilit kiln]

or "oh i need to increase def"

yea

i just queue 3 moves at the same time

instead of what it doesn when its on auto

right?

[proud axle]

That is good

[old orchid]

do not use auto

[twilit kiln]

i cant quad queue cuz im old and my fingers dont move fast all the time like that

i get very tired when i like

[proud axle]

Let's see... what was the first thing you told Skyla to do in the fight?

[twilit kiln]

i told it to use its 2/2 skill at bottom left

[proud axle]

Excellent

The basics are here, at least

[proud axle]

I would show Hop's screen but I don't have time rn to take the four idiots out before him

He would be a better example, as his screen should say "Watch out for Def Down and Speed Down" and "Focus on inflicting Atk Down and SpDef Down"

[twilit kiln]

oh damn

so like i just choose pokes with sp atk down if its like that

[proud axle]

And, well...

[proud axle]

Yeah, it can help a lot

[twilit kiln]

should i focus on whats it says for the middle pokemon or overall

cuz on that, infernape has sp tk down

[proud axle]

Sometimes it goes either way

[twilit kiln]

but the other two has something diff

[proud axle]

Oh, that warns you that they will try to debuff you

The intended answer is to use something like this. But sometimes you can survive without.

[lean cosmos]

Man this is hard when you try to 2.5k it I might have to lower the challenge raiting

[left storm]

Double Caitlin free 2v3 Vs flint NGL

[teal pawn]

Poison stall?

I just off type flint with no brain strat, if you have strong dps and ex he's easy

[lean cosmos]

Yea I’m trying to poison stall, I don’t have many good pairs and the parameters favour toxic stalling

[proud axle]

...Maybe I should offtype all five fights just to be a smartass.

[teal pawn]

I see maybe you can bring someone like Janine ariados instead of syca to debuff then I think you should be fine

[lean cosmos]

I don’t have her

[teal pawn]

Generally in poison stall you need to lower all atk buffs to increase survivability

[full mesa]

Why does it say "Challenge Flint: Part 1"?

[proud axle]

It is a mystery

[swift swan]

Flint has yet to reveal his final form

[rotund lagoon]

All the budget went into Anni

[hazy tusk]

They likely just reused the text from an existing battle

[swift swan]

but why don't they reuse the text from.... flint's usual psychic-weak stage in Sinnoh CS

[lean cosmos]

I mean the problem is just flint casually doing 2/3 of sycamores hp and then I just lose

[trail smelt]

Huh how is he doing that much damage when you debuff and buff?

[swift swan]

are you using the right parameters for stalling?

[teal pawn]

Think you need someone with potion refresh

I don't think syca can solo support

[swift swan]

it's a stall team and it's very common for sycamore to be the only support that can self-sustain himself. it's fine

remove power on hit

[lean cosmos]

Sycamore can do it it’s just the burn / 3/4 hp nuke

[swift swan]

hmm, those params look odd

[teal pawn]

You have the standard dmg reduction off

That should be always on

[swift swan]

what are you trying, exactly? HP stacks indicate you're doing stall but then you're taking sync buff and attack params

[hazy tusk]

That is a good point

[twilit kiln]

i might just reset and try again

anyone have a guide on parameter settings?

[teal pawn]

I think best to check the pin for poison stall param it will be easier after

[swift swan]

check the pins and adjust according to your needs

[twilit kiln]

oh

i donno what pre and post sync mean

is that for like

if i wanna clear before sync

or after sync?

[steady valley]

whats the best order to do the kalos challenge in? hard mode btw

[teal pawn]

Pre sync is clearing before sync and post sync is after enemy sync

I think

[twilit kiln]

wouldnt i always wanna clear before sync?

[lean cosmos]

Alright il go in with the pinned stuff

[teal pawn]

If you can then take those params

[hazy tusk]

As long as you can survive and clear even after the opponents sync, there is no issue

[teal pawn]

You ll have to adjust where you lack if your confident to clear pre sync

[mellow linden]

Pre-Sync means you have to KO before enemy Sync, post-Sync means you don’t care whether the opponent Syncs, to be more clear

[hazy tusk]

I myself do post-sync clears most of the time

I do pre-syncs by accident only lol

[teal pawn]

Same I do post sync clear, pre sync is like one nuke and over which I failed last time in fire cs but still clear

I just need more options or ex to do more pre sync

[manic kiln]

most of the time i don't care if i miss quadqueue, if the team can tank the sync post sync is fine, there's no need to restart to force presync

[lean cosmos]

So now the problem is sycamore gets no healing

[teal pawn]

Yeah you don't have to force it, I only figured after I gave up only to notice my dps survive still

[swift swan]

so what params are you running exactly

[hazy tusk]

As long as you're not stacking the enemy with +Atk parameters and buff up your defenses, you are good to go

[mellow linden]

Tbh Sycamore has been hit pretty hard by the parameters that were added alongside 2.5k, you may want to consider finding those 400 points from elsewhere if you’re gonna use him as the tank in Poison stall

[teal pawn]

Well that's why I said potion support would do good, I mean if it was grass weak stage then syca is fine

[swift swan]

with the correct params for stalling, sycamore really shouldn't die. just grid him with rejuvenate

[lean cosmos]

The pinned toxic stall parameters

[swift swan]

get healing hand and rejuvenate

[hazy tusk]

Did you uncheck your old params

[left storm]

#Tinasweep

[mellow linden]

Ah, right, he gets Rejuvenate

Yeah, nvm then, he should work fine on standard Poison stall parameters

[lean cosmos]

I guess I’ll re invest his sync grid

[left storm]

Doesn't syca have rejuv on base?

Or is that eevee

[teal pawn]

Is rejuvenate available in power boost or without for syca?

[mellow linden]

Not like it’s an issue, you don’t lose orbs by resetting grid

[swift swan]

and if you need more gradual healing, replace Lana with Evelyn

[mellow linden]

Available regardless, Sycamore’s Power Boost was almost entirely QoL

[teal pawn]

Ah I see

[swift swan]

wait it's not rejuvenate it's recuperation lmao

bottom tile

[mellow linden]

Right, Rejuvenate is gauge

[teal pawn]

[left storm]

Yeah rejuv is gauge

That's why I was confused lol

[mellow linden]

Which I guess Sycamore technically has as well

[left storm]

Like eevee

It's on base no?

[swift swan]

innate

[mellow linden]

Yeah, it’s just an effect of his Sync

[lean cosmos]

so close

He even died to the toxic after

[swift swan]

then you know it's possible

if any of your team members get burned, just stop using moves with them

let the opponents use moves and wait it out until they die on their own

[grand trout]

Why lana

[swift swan]

especially once mid is already down

[swift swan]

defense buff I assume

[grand trout]

Also fire guard?

[swift swan]

hmm,possibly

[grand trout]

Can they activate mpr on tm of syca

To clear burns

[swift swan]

i'd much rather grid for healing hand personally

you can only get MPR so many times

[cinder summit]

Healing Hand 2

Has a chance (30%) of removing all status conditions from all allied sync pairs when the user's Pokémon uses a move.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Cheryl & Blissey
Misty & Starmie
Erika (Holiday 2020) & Comfey
Professor Sycamore & Xerneas

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[grand trout]

Interesting

[lean cosmos]

Who would I replace her with if she’s not good?

[grand trout]

I didn't say she wasn't good

I just asked why

[lean cosmos]

Ah ok

[swift swan]

grid for healing hand on sycamore

if one of your teammates get burned, don't queue a move with them

[lean cosmos]

Already did

[swift swan]

the sides die very quickly. if you get burned and you're left fighting the sides, just wait it out

[lean cosmos]

I might swap lanna for someone with potions tbh

Fire blast does so much I feel like I need someone to heal the dmg

[grand trout]

How about Sonia

[left storm]

Fun CS ngl

Psychic has a lot of fun freebies

[grand trout]

Or skyla, the old faithful

[left storm]

I had to run Bianca because best girl

Or it would've been terrainless

[lean cosmos]

I was thinking her, haven’t tried it yet but ima give it a shot

[silver dirge]

Sigh I shoulda saved SS Dawn for my 2v3 with caitlin 😔 flint is too stronk

[teal pawn]

Is tate solrock good against hop ?

[lean cosmos]

Got like 5 potion refreshes so that definitely was the right option

[left storm]

I used double Caitlin

[silver dirge]

i am tryna monotype psychic

[left storm]

Bianca gone already?

[silver dirge]

saving for later

[left storm]

Who's left then, can you SS?

[silver dirge]

I realised my dumbass is also doing flint round 2 LMAO which means he always procs burn gonna try something else and then come back to it

[left storm]

Too frail

Not like 50/50 is that comfy anyway

[silver dirge]

I actually ran dps and nuke tate against marshall. amazing performance

[teal pawn]

Too frail as in bad dmg?

[nocturne pawn]

that was fun

[twilit kiln]

im using off type pre-sync parameter rn

and this is my team:

I can't seem to clear it

[silver dirge]

off type?

You're on type though

[twilit kiln]

my zapdos is not psychic tho

[manic kiln]

He’s a support so it doesn’t matter

[silver dirge]

no prob he isn't dealing damage

[twilit kiln]

yea im not doing enough damage

and my zapdos gets two shot

so idk

but on the focus this section, it says just paralyze the middle

[manic kiln]

Calem is not really doing anything here at 1/5, use another dps or another support to buff def faster

[twilit kiln]

im using it to paralyze the middle

it says to paralyze middle

[swift swan]

it's not necessary

[mellow linden]

Always take the in-game “recommendations” with a grain of salt

[swift swan]

paralyzing middle does little to nothing unless it's specifically to deactivate a passive or activate a unit's multipliers

[mellow linden]

Better to use pomatools (link in the pins) to see what gimmicks the stage has

[manic kiln]

your team comp is more important

[twilit kiln]

im so confused

so how i know when to listen to focus section of the thing

and when not to

[mellow linden]

Just use pomatools (link in the pins)

It has all the moves/passives/what have you of the opponents

[manic kiln]

he doesn't have any passive that you need to use paralyze to get rid of

[swift swan]

• Check the stats
• Does the opponent have certain stats that are higher than normal? This is indicated by a yellow text instead of white.
• Check the passives
• Does the opponent have certain passives that reduce damage? Find a way to work around this.

[manic kiln]

this was an old stage so they used some random recommendation with so few sync pairs back then

[twilit kiln]

how do i use poma tools

i cant find the trainer

in there

[teal pawn]

Did you click on the pokemon pic in middle?

[mellow linden]

In Bruno’s case:

Link in pins -> Kanto -> Bruno with the Psychic icon

[manic kiln]

menu -> champion stadium -> click on bruno -> click bruno with psychic weakness -> click moves to check his moveset/skills for passive

[teal pawn]

Oh I thought he meant sync pair, I forget cs was there too

[mellow linden]

Note that you aren’t required to counter every passive a stage has. For example, no reason to care about Bruno’s Precision Pals

[nocturne pawn]

also will is really underrated

got him to 5* 0/20 for this cs and his sync was doing 20k off a pretty low attack stat

[twilit kiln]

so what do you sugges that i add to my team

other than Clame

Calem

[left storm]

As in "it dies to sync"

[nocturne pawn]

you need a better dps

[twilit kiln]

but my mew is full grid

and 135

[left storm]

Based will enjoyer

[teal pawn]

Dang well I don't have options to use for poison stall cause def down to team does the same thing

[swift swan]

what grid are you running

[left storm]

Offtype it

[twilit kiln]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/13700/15100?s=3&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBg0PERMbHR8hIig

[teal pawn]

I used my 3 offtype pairs already tho like NC red nc leaf and ss red

Dunno if gloria urshifu and cinderace 1/5 ex can beat him especially with def down its such a pain

[left storm]

Bring skyla

And those two

Should work

[silver dirge]

holy shit the one time bruno doesn't close combat/earthquake K.O. me on turn 1 and goes low sweep, I'm ecstatic because I can clear this stage now but oop- low sweep crits.

[left storm]

Who are you running

[teal pawn]

Skyla got used in one of the offtype teams

[silver dirge]

just SS Steven

[twilit kiln]

i used dawn to defence all up twice nd my mew and dawn still gets one shot by a single sync move

[left storm]

Ssblue?

[left storm]

1v3?

[silver dirge]

yes

[teal pawn]

Same ss blue and ss leaf are also out

[mellow linden]

Are you doing Master Mode, and if so:

1. Is this your 1st time doing Master Mode?

2. What parameters are you running?

[nocturne pawn]

i literally raised his potential just for this event

[sick inlet]

This is a very bad stall parameters. If you're still doing that.

[nocturne pawn]

he even has aggravation air slash and 430 speed

[lean cosmos]

Can someone tell me the dif between pre sync and post sync presets? I’m trying to decide which one fits this team

[mellow linden]

Pre-Sync means you need to KO the center before enemy Syncs, post-Sync means you don’t care if the enemy Syncs

[grand trout]

Pre sync aims to defeat the stage before they can sync

[lean cosmos]

Ah well no way I’m killing before sync so I’ll go with post sync

[mellow linden]

Just the center

Would need to be KOed

Since once that happens the opponent can’t Sync

[sick inlet]

Post sync = your opponents get to sync as your team setup is probably slow

Pre sync = you annihlate the middle pokemon of the opposition before they sync, usually using a team that can setup quickly

[twilit kiln]

oh i cleared it

wait

how come i didnt change anything

but the first time it wiped my team

[sick inlet]

Usually you should be able to sync twice before your opponent can sync once

[twilit kiln]

but second time it didnt>

[sick inlet]

RNG happens

[left storm]

I gave up on chop with him

[twilit kiln]

maybe it didnt crit the second time?

[left storm]

1v3 was too hard

So I 2v3

[mellow linden]

Bruno’s Sync shouldn’t crit at all

[left storm]

With clair

Doing nothing

[nocturne pawn]

damage rolls exist

[left storm]

[nocturne pawn]

everything is rng in this game

[mellow linden]

Hard to say the exact situation without seeing a recording of the fight

[sick inlet]

Crits, high rolls, debuffs, 4 gauge moves etc

[twilit kiln]

yea it didnt kill me second time so i just killed its middle and wipe the other two with sync and psychic

insane luck i guess

[mellow linden]

Just enjoy the win and keep moving

[twilit kiln]

i lived with 1 health on mew i think

[left storm]

I didn't, I 5* him just out of respect for his carry in 2019

[silver dirge]

I'm at least like 50 resets in but I refuse to give up

[left storm]

You using speed right

Or normal with the infinite field right

[twilit kiln]

what is intereference immunity btw

[left storm]

Because ATK kinda struggles getting to sync in my experience

[sick inlet]

Is this the Deoxys Solo?

[silver dirge]

Yessir

[left storm]

Yes

[sick inlet]

Why not 3rd round?

[grand trout]

The opponents can't be trapped, flinched, confused, or restrained

[silver dirge]

I'm using attack I know I can get there I just need Bruno to behave

this is round 3

[sick inlet]

Oooh good

[left storm]

I'd say third or fourth rounds are the only ones where atk can work

But even then

Ehhh

[silver dirge]

yeah it's tough but I'm too far into this to go back now

All I need is for them to use one move before they sync, and not close combat or earthquake

or iron head. or mega kick

[nocturne pawn]

close combat from bruno on the will clear gave me cancer

[twilit kiln]

so for round 2, can i just do Kahili and then apply status?

[nocturne pawn]

cuz it ohko’d cobalion

every time

[twilit kiln]

instead of interference?

[nocturne pawn]

unless you’re poison stalling that parameter is largely ignorable

[grand trout]

Yes

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to status Kahili

[left storm]

Interference is best for kahili

She flinches for ages

[twilit kiln]

no i mean use the unabel to status param

[left storm]

[lean cosmos]

Something tells me the post sync loadout isn’t gonna work lol

[left storm]

Is this round 2?

Staggering doesn't work on round 2 because it's a delayed effect btw

[nocturne pawn]

did you take sdr8

258 is very abnormal

[mellow linden]

That looks like accidentally leaving Standard Damage Reduction 8 or Physical Damage Reduction 8 on by mistake

[twilit kiln]

idk what round to do which at

[mellow linden]

I think 258 is recoil

[twilit kiln]

i just cleared bruno at round 1

[nocturne pawn]

oh

yeah

no wait

[twilit kiln]

but im clueless on the rest

[nocturne pawn]

if it was standfast 9 it’d be way less

[lean cosmos]

Dosent look like it

[mellow linden]

Well it’s not Rose, because there’s no crit icon

[mellow linden]

Ok, that’s way too much max HP

Have you checked the parameter examples in the pins?

[lean cosmos]

I was just following the pins

[nocturne pawn]

oh wait thats the damage field

[nocturne pawn]

i stupid