Champion Stadium

[silver dirge]

so support

[lime raven]

Uhhh

Lemme see sun setters first

[silver dirge]

Blaine, Fuecoco (Egg), Tech Nintales (Egg)

SS Erika - which you've used

Anni Raihan, Bede

[lime raven]

oh boy

the man himself once again

Anni raihan

eh?

He can trap too

[silver dirge]

One of the tech eggs is probably more useful though, we'd probably need one MPR

Unless your Raihan is 5/5 and has drought alert

[lime raven]

oh never mind

[silver dirge]

Although actually he also does have SEUN

[lime raven]

How will she do?

[silver dirge]

Fine, she is just there to set sun

[lime raven]

I feel like i might have my brendan grid all wrong though

just a feeling

[silver dirge]

We'll sort that out in a sec, can I see your supports

[lime raven]

Yeah im not happy about getting proton and not ariana either

[silver dirge]

Is SS Brendan available?

[lime raven]

Unfortunately not

Him, swimsuit misty, and piers are off the table

[silver dirge]

Do you have BP Morty?

Ah hold on we need speed

NC Blue?

[lime raven]

yeah

But

Hes not upgraded to even level 100

[silver dirge]

You would need to get him to ~120 first

[lime raven]

What do i need from him

[silver dirge]

He will give you all the speed buffs for Brendan's nuke

and Ramming Speed

He can also flinch, buff defences

[lime raven]

Hes 1/5 so we just need him for buffs then?

[silver dirge]

Yes

[silver dirge]

how well do you go with survivability at the moment?

Do you find that your pairs die too early?

Or is that not the problem, you just can't get enough damage in?

by the time they sync

[lime raven]

if they sync the battle is basically over

[silver dirge]

I mean before sync

You won't survive sync of course, but can you get to their sync okay?

Assuming you synced with Brendan first

[lime raven]

If they use muddy water more than once no

[silver dirge]

Okay so you might have to RNG a little and reroll if he uses muddy water

Let's not use nC blue here and save him for later

Use skyla instead

[lime raven]

Yeah and shes ex

[silver dirge]

Yeah, that'll work

[lime raven]

And ninetales?

[silver dirge]

I'm sorry I gotta run for dinner, I'll summarise quickly what you need to do though: Tech Ninetales, Brendan, Skyla

Tech Ninetales is just there to set sun, wait until after your first sync to do this or right before your first sync, because Brendan doesn't need sun to nuke, just for DPS. Brendan will spend all the time before sync fully setting himself up, max crit/atk/sp atk. Skyla will spend this time maxing out Brendan's speed to set up his Inertia and Ramming speed. If you don't get the MPR on Skyla, reset. If they use muddy water twice, reset. Once sync is ready, sync with Brendan

Right after sync, you wanna try and quad queue a leaf storm straight after, but see how you go with guages. Either you already have sun set up or tech ninetales sets it up now. You should have more than enough damage on brendan to clear the stage, as long as you run the right params. The ones you showed me looked fine. In the meantime skyla can either try and proc some flinches with gust or potion if she needs to.

This should let you clear the stage, if you need more help hopefully someone else can step in I will send you the brendan grid I would use. Brendan needs to be skilled with Dauntless

[lime raven]

Welp

Closest ive been so far

[swift swan]

What params are you running? With very offensive parameters, Brendan can clear 1st sync + a quadqueued leaf storm

The muddy water just sucks so bad. Reset if the opponent ever uses it

(which is very often)

[silver dirge]

Judging by the team I configured for ya, you've only used Dire hit once, which means you haven't maxed out his crit. I have a feeling you didn't crit on your first sync and may have missed a couple of crits on your Leaf Storms too

Also is he skilled with Dauntless?

[junior crown]

You can run Sycamore DPS with impervious so the acc drop means nothing or poison stall of you're still struggling

[nocturne pawn]

its tied to muddy water impervious wont work

[mellow linden]

Impervious blocks all stat drops

Oh, wait, I get what you mean

I assume that’s why they say DPS Sycamore

[nocturne pawn]

i know but i think he thought it was something like ripple effect mud slap

[mellow linden]

Yeah, I got that like 2 seconds after I initially replied

[nocturne pawn]

i mean honestly the best shot against siebold is just resetting til he doesnt queue it at all

because it hits hard and accuracy debuffs is super annoying

[junior crown]

No no, I meant Sycamore DPS, not using Impervious to block the acc drop from the other 2

There are always other possibilities like raising acc with BP clemont for example, but this round was made for SC Rosa because she drops evas

[nocturne pawn]

uhhh

muddy water rolls the debuff for each target

i still dont really understand what you mean

[junior crown]

I mean run something around Sycamore DPS, like Sycamore + Sonia (don't need to be this, just one example), Sycamore will be the one dealing damage and with Impervious he will not drop his accuracy so it doesn't affect the pair that matters (that is doing the damage), but the others can have their acc dropped without problem

[nocturne pawn]

is horn leech dps that good though

[keen jasper]

On-type with PDR8 or off-type?

[nocturne pawn]

wu

[nocturne pawn]

wdym by pdr8

physical damage reduction?

[keen jasper]

Ye

[nocturne pawn]

why would you have that on if you’re using horn leech dps

[keen jasper]

Well, it just depends on who you're using anyways

There are a lot of physical grass damage dealers, but there's also a good amount of special grass too

[junior crown]

You can still use it offtype like before, but now it's harder to 2.5k offtype, but for 2.5k ontype it's still easy, I know someone soloed with Sycamore tjis week...

[fluid vessel]

Bruh, again Sycamore literally makes any grass Weak stage totally a joke

He Just can't die

[fluid vessel]

, you don't even need Sonia but that is the idea

[fluid vessel]

With him and VMallow, I am not so confident about Lodge

[marble pike]

this cs is better to do post sync right

[silver dirge]

not sure what you mean, any CS stage can be done pre or post sync. Unless there's a funky round parameter going on

[keen jasper]

My SS Wally still has Antitoxin from the Brock EB, but he should still OHKO Drasna with his sync

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-damage-gif-25427790

[marble pike]

oh no wonder i struggle so hard on wallace

the grass weakness but like dies

he does so much damage or is that just me

I'm sturggling so hard with the grass one

[hot void]

Hey I just came back to the game after a while (last time i consistently played was 1.5 year anni) is there a pinned post for 7500 on cs? also how was power creep would my older pairs still be decent?

[mellow linden]

Max on CS total is 12.5k now, but your older roster should still be fine. You’ll have to get Master Mode unlocked for Kalos CS 1st though

Parameter recommendations for when you do unlock Master Mode are in pins

[hot void]

are the rewards increased? i remember the max last time was higher than where it stopped giving rewards, also I'm very stupid but i see the 2.5k guide do i just mix and match for the score I want?

as in is there a point to 12.5 other than the flex?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, more rewards were added, but past ~4200 points total they’re not that important

Which, granted, is how it was back then too

[hot void]

gotcha thanks

[fluid vessel]

Inmortal Mushroom

[silver dirge]

Impressive

metal snek:

[left storm]

Most normal tough cookie X2 moment

3 sync buffs

Shame

Could've been 4

[marble pike]

i did the 12.5k

btw siebold was the worst

[nocturne pawn]

he always is

[marble pike]

he had what felt like way more hp than the rest

and way more damage

[nocturne pawn]

everyone in kalos has above average hp but hes usually the one running with stat based offensive multipliers

i think all 3 of his stages have something to do with stat buffs and have increased hp

[marble pike]

i still struggle even with nc blue and red on the same stage

[fluid vessel]

siebold is the easiest because gets destroyed by a f2p vampire unit

[nocturne pawn]

what do you run for 2.5k cuz he cant buff spdef early on or drop accuracy

do you go full strength?

you keep saying that he can but without parameters thats not helping anyone

[left storm]

I think for deer 1v3 clears you need hp parameters

To not get oneshot by syncs and guarantee max heals

[nocturne pawn]

well im not even talking about solo just sycamore as solo dps

i assume its strength cuz he would get shredded by offensive parameters

[left storm]

Probably a mix of hp with some str

[fluid vessel]

it is basically the stall parameters

[left storm]

[nocturne pawn]

stall parameters without crit shield and pdr8 i assume?

[left storm]

This is what ciy Wang used

[nocturne pawn]

yeah that makes sense

[left storm]

https://youtu.be/-enfbT6m83c?si=wHLH_hrBZGaCbede

[fluid vessel]

something like that yeah

that obliterates any grass weak stage

[blazing peak]

Oh nice tomorrow i can finally use ny lisia

Please tell me drasna's doesn't have any annoying gimmick

[nocturne pawn]

tbh drasna was always the easiest one for me every week

all the others had one stage i really hate but drasna just gets dunked on

[junior crown]

Don't recomend to do solo for someone that just want to clear ir, use other pairs that help, like buffing crit and def if needed (can buff atk too if you want to kill it faster and not depend on self buff) and debuffer for atk/spatk/def

[fluid vessel]

No one is recommending a solo

But Sycamore destroys grass Weak stages so easily it is Hard to say grass Weak stages are the hardest

[nocturne pawn]

i mean

this week siebold definitely is the hardest

especially if you’re not aware of this

[fluid vessel]

Well, none of the other stages gets countered as Hard as Siebold gets countered by Sycamore

[left storm]

I kinda wanna start doing 3.3-3.5k 3v3 clears with underrated or shit units rather than 2v3 at 3k

Like, instead of 1v3 with 3k 1/5 tbolt red, 3v3 with egg raichu as main dps

[fluid vessel]

If you have 1/5 tbolt Red solos I would want to see them

[left storm]

I mean they're easy as hell

Just STR+8 params

TM>terrain>max move>buddy 3 times, sides die, sync mid

Stage is always dead presync

[fluid vessel]

Ik they are easy but mine is 3/5 so I can't do it myself

[fluid vessel]

This was SO Annoying

[marble pike]

i think its pretty f2p friendly tho

well not even f2p

but like

units people should have

victor/aliester/good support

victor aliester pretty stonks ngl

[mellow linden]

You can go even cheaper

Victor + Shauntal or Giovanni + appropriate Support

[marble pike]

victor is budget ghost zone

[fluid vessel]

I am talking about the solo

[marble pike]

oh

[fluid vessel]

From the late CS stages, this has to be the easiest to solo with him

Special Stage when all 3 enemies uses the same type of Moves

[undone ether]

hum

what to add on Pal Serena team

i just need a Zone right? D:?

i could do dragon zone HUM

oh wait

Let's go with Karen 😄

[mellow linden]

What purpose does Ball Guy serve on the team for the Diantha fight

[undone ether]

I have no idea

[mellow linden]

Replace him with an Attack buffer then

[undone ether]

I 3/5'd SS Giovanni

• SS Blue i think?

[mellow linden]

Well for a Cynthia team Ball Guy serves no purpose, so replace him with at least a dedicated Attack buffer

[undone ether]

too bad Ingo is on Malva 😭

hmm

[mellow linden]

Bertha handles Sand

[undone ether]

SC Lyra i guess?

[mellow linden]

How fast are her Attack buffs again?

[undone ether]

2 buffs

err 2 uses of her trainer move

[mellow linden]

I guess it’s close enough to a Cynthia + Bertha + Courtney team to work

[undone ether]

she can also do this thing

+2 ATK when you press the TM

[mellow linden]

Ah, that’s better then

[undone ether]

but that's if she's 3/5 😦

she isn't

[mellow linden]

Then back to the previous statement of “close enough to Bertha + Cynthia + Courtney”

[undone ether]

got it

[mellow linden]

Not sure what SS May is doing on the team for Wikstrom

[undone ether]

Sync Countdown + Speed

[mellow linden]

Champ Hop can provide Speed via Trainer Move

[undone ether]

hum

guess i can slap in EX Bea....

but i feel like the sync countdown works really well in the comp @_@

[mellow linden]

What specific reason do you want Sync accel for?

[undone ether]

oh

i do postsync a lot 😄

[mellow linden]

Post-Sync would have less need for Sync accel

Post-Sync means you don't care whether or not the opponent Syncs

[undone ether]

i guess it'll depend on like

what the challenges for when we get in to champion stadium i guess @_@

[lime raven]

He was at +3 crit and ko’d the sides after sync

And yes hes skilled with dauntless

[lime raven]

Bruh theres too much rng involved in this

I have to hope they dont use muddy water at all

[mellow linden]

That's kinda just how Grass weak Siebold is at times

[fluid vessel]

I insist about just use Sycamore (and 2 fillers optional)

much much less headache

[lime raven]

i have nc blue

1/5 tho

[old orchid]

Totally fine

[fluid vessel]

that works

[lime raven]

My current params

[old orchid]

You picked too many atk up params

[lime raven]

yeah too rng based

[old orchid]

Siebold has his innate spatk stats increased compared to standard

[fluid vessel]

just go full HP parameters and sycamore

[old orchid]

So avoid picking too many atk up params and pick hp and/or strength

[fluid vessel]

[lime raven]

so post sync

[old orchid]

Even with mostly strength he still hits hard

[fluid vessel]

and add to fillers even tho you shouldn't really need them

[old orchid]

Do you have 3/5 SS Erika? She can nuke pre sync if you do quad queue

[lime raven]

i think shes either 4/5 or 5/5

[old orchid]

Thats better

[lime raven]

Can i do her brendan and sycamore?

With defense params

[fluid vessel]

you can

sycamore can, so sycamore + brendan definitely can

[lime raven]

Alr lemme modify these params

Uh grad healing or no?

[fluid vessel]

just use these parameters and you should be fine

brendan probably won't survive the first sync cicle but sycamore hard carries the stage with those parameters

[lime raven]

No sun from erika either

[fluid vessel]

you can add her if you don't plan to use erika or brendan later

[lime raven]

Alright

I have the params

And the team

[fluid vessel]

with healing sun on them they might survive the first sync cicle but if they survive or not shouldn't matter

sycamore is just that good

[fluid vessel]

you must use impervous

[lime raven]

What do i take off?

[fluid vessel]

those 2 work

[lime raven]

Alright i got the first one

What should erika and brendan do

Oh and my sycamore has vigilance

[fluid vessel]

vigilance is fine

erika and brendan attack until they die

then sycamore just spams horn leech until you win

[lime raven]

Im guessing i should use erika and brendan for the sides

[fluid vessel]

it doesn't matter the position, just be sure your first target is sycamore

[lime raven]

I mean yeah but for siebolds sides

[fluid vessel]

ah, the opponent sides

you can kill the sides first if you want

[lime raven]

No way sycamore is that raw

[fluid vessel]

sycamore just can't die

[lime raven]

welp

He got burnt

By scald

Of all things

Reset time

[fluid vessel]

if you didn't use his TM it heals burn but I guess you used it

[lime raven]

I always use it right away

[fluid vessel]

yeah makes sense

[lime raven]

This is awesome

[fluid vessel]

I told you

[lone crypt]

Hello guys, are there any suggested meta comps for the current kalos stadium?

[lime raven]

BRUH

[fluid vessel]

I'm gonna guess you got hit by confusion

[nocturne pawn]

bro how did the other 2 die

[fluid vessel]

well

[lime raven]

they were sacrificed

[fluid vessel]

siebold spams muddy water

[nocturne pawn]

what was even the point of bringing them

[fluid vessel]

so yeah they would die

[lime raven]

you right

[nocturne pawn]

you might as well bring someone who can actually buff sycamore

[lime raven]

I wont bring them now

[fluid vessel]

you can, well yeah

but like

buff sycamore on what?

atk and def buffs are useless

[nocturne pawn]

???

is he not using horn leech

[lime raven]

he is

[fluid vessel]

he buffs his own atk

[nocturne pawn]

slowly

[fluid vessel]

I mean if you want the full damage from the beginning sure

[nocturne pawn]

id be a lot more comfortable if it was more immediate

[fluid vessel]

you can bring an atk buffer

I'd rather add a crit buffer, literally anything

[nocturne pawn]

also only +1 crit os the bigger issue

which like

most attack supports can do

[fluid vessel]

ok but I wouldn't use something that might be useful for other stages like sonia

[lime raven]

i just got an idea

oh yeah

poison stall + sycamore

[fluid vessel]

that works but

[nocturne pawn]

why

[fluid vessel]

unless you have a plan for other stages I wouldn't use poison stall with sycamore

[nocturne pawn]

sycamore isnt doing anything to help stall

no synchro healing is meh

[lime raven]

this is my last stage before diantha

[fluid vessel]

do you have diantha covered by your teams?

[lime raven]

I have

Pal marnie

[fluid vessel]

ok then go for it

just be sure to have a paralysis unit because diantha has healthy advantage

[lime raven]

ofc she does

[nocturne pawn]

solgaleo

anyway

healthy advantage if you go full offense is barely noticeable

[fluid vessel]

well yes solgaleo counters it

[lime raven]

This team was better than i expected

[nocturne pawn]

……..

why did you use nc red

[lime raven]

cause

I didnt wanna just beat siebold

I wanted to bend him over and spank him

[nocturne pawn]

i have many questions but i want none of them answered

[lime raven]

Teach him a lesson for making me wait almost a week to beat him

Now its time for diantha who got sweeped by leon off screen in a filler episode

[fluid vessel]

but it was not a filler

[lime raven]

you’re right but they decided to make us watch little kids instead

Does the 4th parameter affect iron head?

[fluid vessel]

no

[nocturne pawn]

status conditions

not increases effects of moves

[lime raven]

Oh yeah huh

so

Wait

Alright lets do this

[grand trout]

Do you guys have set teams for CS, or do you want to change it up ?

[zealous karma]

I always like to change it up

[mellow linden]

I usually have a go-to for each type and occasionally switch things up for funsies

[zealous karma]

albeit sometimes it may not feel like I am changing it up

Here are two examples for me lel

[grand trout]

Ugh 2 of the stages are repeats

Lams

Lame

[zealous karma]

fire week or rock week?

[trail smelt]

I mean they’re gonna repeat sooner or later, but yeah it feels lazy at times

[grand trout]

I mean the upcoming cs

[grand trout]

I don't mind one repeat, but two stages?

[undone ether]

i change it up whenever i guess.

depends on the parameters

wait a sec

there we go.

[fluid vessel]

Inmortal Bug

[undone ether]

nice Gigadrain build www

[fluid vessel]

Thanks

[keen jasper]

R1: Half sync CD
R2: Make use of moves with additional effects
R3: Preemptive Light Screen
R4: Use status conditions and other conditions against all opponents
Champion: Use stat-lowering effects

[fluid vessel]

back to back status condition

SSLeaf and Ball Guy: 📈 📈

[verbal karma]

So who's the least dangerous for R1 this week?

[swift swan]

updated

[keen jasper]

If you have the rats, then Siebold

[verbal karma]

What if I only have one of them?

[keen jasper]

Ash should still destroy Siebold with his B Move

[gritty nymph]

The hell was siebold

Man tanked ss hau nuke twice yeesh

Ah healthy advantage

[swift swan]

finally Mina can take revenge on fairy-weak Drasna

[keen jasper]

Triple Pallet Town bois completely obliterates Mr. Ramsay

I'm sure Mr. Ramsay will have musophobia after seeing them

[gritty nymph]

I got so close to offtyping malva with physical dmg reduction with nc marnie

god she is great

[verbal karma]

...okay, I forgot: which of the 4 in this week's CS uses mostly special attacks?

[swift swan]

drasna i would say

[verbal karma]

Thnx

[devout sluice]

I tried out Mawile BP on fairy weak. Definitely enjoyed it.

Did get some trouble on round 5 tho.

[old orchid]

Half sync again where is my beloved perma field

[devout sluice]

Perma field fighting zone not this week

[fluid vessel]

both are fine

more Adaman solos

[old orchid]

Imagine having Adaman

[silver dirge]

SS Erika will have to do

[fluid vessel]

Adaman at home

[verbal karma]

Oh no...Mina can't beat Drasna pre-sync 😦

I don't know who else to use at this point

[devout sluice]

Do you have BP Valerie? She can clear it.

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, I'm still able to 4k Malva

[wooden fable]

Who to target round 3 with, special damage reduction

[swift swan]

drasna is rather special-heavy, but also remember R3 prevents you from quadqueueing so make sure your team has a way to mitigate that or doesn't care about it

[verbal karma]

She's 1/5

[devout sluice]

Oh

[verbal karma]

I thankfully have Sycamore to mitigate the R3 gimmick

Anyway, if BP Valeria isn't an option and Mina is unable to clear either, then what am I supposed to do? 😦

[devout sluice]

Toxic stall is an option

[swift swan]

Hop/Sycamore/Mina cleared 2k drasna presync last time. I'm gonna reattempt it 2.5k

but well, my Mina is EX'd

[verbal karma]

Mine is as well

But then again, my team was Sycamore/Mina/Anni Skyla

[swift swan]

https://youtu.be/Win2_EhcirI?si=cHuVvKa_ZICu8I4F but here's the 2k clear if you need it

[swift swan]

why Anni Skyla

[verbal karma]

To negate Dragon Zone

[devout sluice]

Probably flinch and debuffs

[swift swan]

Mina needs to buff her attack and crit quickly

[verbal karma]

And also flinches

[swift swan]

if you want to presync anyway, you don't need to care about dragon zone

you kill her before she gets to take advantage of it

[manic kiln]

Seriously your team building is getting worse

[verbal karma]

Fair...but it doesn't look like I can presync anyway?

[swift swan]

Mina is already busy using charm three times as is, she needs someone to buff her attack and crit

[verbal karma]

She buffs her own crit

[devout sluice]

Like Hilbert

[manic kiln]

Focus on your team first instead of the stages mechanics

[swift swan]

well this exists, and in a few hours I'm gonna do it at 2.5k

[verbal karma]

She has Critical Eye

[swift swan]

yes, on TM. which means one less turn you don't deal damage

[verbal karma]

...fair

Okay, will try with Hop

[gritty nymph]

I’ve missed crit on bp valaire 7 times now

And im close to losing it

[verbal karma]

DAMN

Still can't beat Drasna!

...yeah, at this point, Drasna with Mina seems impossible

[swift swan]

it's not

[verbal karma]

Well, I just can't beat her, no matter what

[swift swan]

• was Mina at max attack
• is the target at -6 attack
• does she have her nuke grid

• did she crit

[old orchid]

[silver dirge]

[devout sluice]

Perhaps you can show us her grid? Might help out what needs to be changed.

[verbal karma]

Would you call that her nuke grid?

[swift swan]

as long as it has pecking order and the two sync tiles, sure. though I'd take superduper effective 2 for a bit more damage on play rough

[gritty nymph]

It took me 10 times with bp valries to crit yay

[trail smelt]

Yay Nemona actually worked this time around

[swift swan]

don't waste time on her TM. charm three times, then play rough

[trail smelt]

Now that I remembered to paralyze everyone LMAO

[gritty nymph]

That was not easy with bp valarie

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week… but as usual ugh my bugs

[swift swan]

i guess sycamore wouldn't really help with her DPS anymore considering the special damage reduction you'll most likely be taking. so I'd just replace him with a defense debuffer. someone cheap on gauge, like Kukui

[devout sluice]

Oh wait I didn’t realized I already set my final team for September already.

[gritty nymph]

I will say bp valarie was not a walk in the park for drasna

[trail smelt]

I think I’m done with my psychic teams… oh well

[gritty nymph]

Im speedrunning N right now

To grab him for psychic cs

I am a bit worried with caitlyn as i’ve never used caitlyn before

[devout sluice]

Im saving my best for the last round.

[swift swan]

Her nuke is really good now

[gritty nymph]

Is she a striker ex?

[old orchid]

her role is striker yes

[gritty nymph]

Ohh I might ex her

[verbal karma]

Fair

[grand trout]

Can diantha not use head smash damn

[manic kiln]

Easy mode trying 2 new f2p fairy, valerie is 5* but not ex

[grand trout]

Is leaf ex?

[trail smelt]

I’ve used upgraded Caitlin before, her nukes hits pretty good yeah

[manic kiln]

Yes but I didn’t sync with her

[trail smelt]

Especially if she’s EX and can spread the damage

[verbal karma]

😦

[trail smelt]

Oof

[silver dirge]

parameters?

[verbal karma]

Pre-sync parameters

[keen jasper]

Goddamnit, I was so close to OHKO-ing Drasna if it weren't for me putting Antitoxin on SS Wally

4k pts. too

[verbal karma]

Okay, yeah, no

I don't know what to do anymore

and I can't exactly use Poison Stall either because I might have to save that for...the one E4 member whose only hard counter is a Special attacking Rock-type Strike...whom I don't have

[silver dirge]

Physical rock types do fine against Malva

Olivia can clear it

[keen jasper]

I'm conflicted if I should replace L. Lillie

[verbal karma]

...anyway, with how close I was to clearing Drasna with Mina, I instead would rather know what I did wrong instead

I fully buffed Mina, I fully debuffed Drasna, Mina has the sync nuke grid and her sync even did a crit

[silver dirge]

Is this round 1?

[verbal karma]

So what am I missing?

[verbal karma]

Nope, R3

[silver dirge]

give me a min I'll record with the same comp

[swift swan]

replace sycamore with kukui

spam leer

sync first with Hop for EX support

[silver dirge]

was about to say the same thing

[swift swan]

my bad, it was something i overlooked in my 2k clear. sycamore could help with DPS back then, but with 2.5k params you're likely running special dmg reduction so he won't do shit

so kukui, hop, Mina

[silver dirge]

ya I was also about to run dps sycamore til I came to the realisation moonblast is special

[grand trout]

R3 parameters will fuck up quadqueue right

[swift swan]

yes

[silver dirge]

yeap

can overcome it with Adrenaline or something like that

[swift swan]

something Hop conveniently has in his grid!

EX is the best thing that happens to him

[teal pawn]

How defeat siebold 2.5k

[swift swan]

until he gets an EX role

[silver dirge]

sprint or field would be 👌

[grand trout]

wait hop has adrenaline?

[swift swan]

inflict him with a status condition

[grand trout]

I bypassed it using nemona lol

[keen jasper]

Can someone help me to 4k Drasna on R3?

[teal pawn]

Doesn't have to be paralysis right?

[silver dirge]

doesn't

[teal pawn]

Aight sounds good

[swift swan]

nope, but since he's electric-weak, paralysis is just easier to get

[manic kiln]

but it's a electric weak stage

[swift swan]

plenty of electric types are good paralyzers

[teal pawn]

Well I doubt N will paralyze since hes the dps

[swift swan]

oh, N ignores the healthy advantage anyway

piercing blows go brrrr

[teal pawn]

He did like 1k on sync

[swift swan]

definitely an issue of not critting

[silver dirge]

Crit?

[swift swan]

even 1/5 N can't do that little

or did you take the wrong damage reduction by accident?

[grand trout]

Isn't his tm a sure crit

[teal pawn]

Well I had hop there but I guess unlucky crt

[formal vigil]

Only 2/5+

[swift swan]

his TM gives SEUP

[silver dirge]

yeah something's off, he wouldn't do 1k on type

[formal vigil]

Mine did like 13k on his sync mines 1/5 too no seup although did use support sync

[teal pawn]

I have got no stat reduction on maybe I ll adjust that abit to give his dmg more push

[grand trout]

Try pairing him up with hilbert

Atk and crit and speed

Try volkner for the terrain

[teal pawn]

Yeah I can do that

[formal vigil]

Sonia good too

Her mga help with guage alot

[grand trout]

Im a bit iffy on Sonia as i hate how she disrupts quadqueue

[silver dirge]

I just put adrenaline 1 on her

[formal vigil]

Also defence debuffer

[grand trout]

But what about vigilance

[silver dirge]

don't need it

[swift swan]

It's rare for CS stages to have sure crits/raised crit rate

It's even rarer to get an unlucky crit

Mine still has Vigilance since I do LG a lot, but adrenaline is definitely a good choice

[silver dirge]

Yeah if you're doing a lot of LG vigilance is nice, but for CS all my supports have adrenalijne

[verbal karma]

Thanks, will try that

[fluid vessel]

[verbal karma]

Had to reset because Kukui got folded like an omelette by Hyper Voice

[keen jasper]

Ah fuck me, I was on the verge of winning, but then confuse didn't trigger on the Dragonite

[verbal karma]

Okay, Mina can pre-sync Drasna, but then she gets beaten by the sides spamming AoE attacks 😦

Just what am I doing wrong?!

Also doesn't help that Hop needs to heal BOTH Mina AND Kukui

Because they are both nad at taking damage...and Hyper Voice just gets used way too damn frequently even WITH resets

[grand trout]

Do you have bugscyther

[verbal karma]

I do, but...wouldn't that be even worse?

Rock Slide is one of the AoEs

Plus, Mina would then lose out on Theme Skill buffs

[undone ether]

Wowwwww

i managed to win

against

Diantha

@_@

SS Blue - SS Gio (3/5) and - NY Dawn (3/5)

i managed to drop their speed so much

i could hit them 4-5 times before their actual moves goes through

[verbal karma]

Yeah, okay, no

Kukui/Mina/Hop isn't working out either

Even if everything goes well up until Mina syncs, the AoE spam from the sides just deals entirely too much damage

both Rock Slide and Heat Wave

and sadly, Mina also can't oneshot either of the sides

[undone ether]

against who?

[verbal karma]

Not to mention that quadqueuing after Mina sync also doesn't seem to work no matter how hard I rapid tap

[verbal karma]

Drasna, of course

[silver dirge]

If this is R3, it will disable quad queue because of expiring Special DR

[undone ether]

ah jeez.

[verbal karma]

See, the first sync with Hop isn't a problem because he has Adrenaline

[undone ether]

i went PostSync with NC Blue (3/5), Pal Serena (3/5) and NC Serena (3/5)

[verbal karma]

It's the SECOND sync with Mina that is the problem

[silver dirge]

Oh 2nd sync

[undone ether]

btw she was my R4 i think

i could've done base Diantha but

i think stat debuffs is much better

[gritty nymph]

Do I do pre sync or post sync parameters for Palmer?

[silver dirge]

NY Lisia + SC Steven 👌

[silver dirge]

Always pre

[undone ether]

i used SC Steven against Malva

[silver dirge]

Palmer will struggle (towards the end) if you pick up too much HP/strength

[gritty nymph]

Yeah figured

[undone ether]

i always do postsync

unless i really really cannot help it

[silver dirge]

It's just that Crush Grip is reduced to 0.2x damage when target HP is either 20% or 33% (not sure) or less

So if you've made em too bulky and have used your max move/aren't close to sync, he will struggle to take them out

[gritty nymph]

I’ve tinkered with my original off type parameter that I no longer recognize them so I need to reset em

[silver dirge]

I just pick up some strength and offense params, if they use too much AoE then I'll drop some offense for more strength and if they're mostly single target and my support is bulky, I'll pick up more offense

[verbal karma]

...anyone?

[gritty nymph]

What level do you have mina?

[verbal karma]

135

She's also EX'd

[gritty nymph]

3 star or 4 star?

[verbal karma]

EX

[gritty nymph]

Oh right

Theme maxed out too?

[verbal karma]

Yeah

[keen jasper]

Boy, I'm absolutely losing my mind on my 4k pts. Drasna clear

[manic mica]

Well done

I can't even clear 1 stage without using my most broken units this week

I mean tbf all my pairs are lvl 130

No sync grid

[silver dirge]

130 is fine. Sync grids are essential for some units

[gritty nymph]

I would try to adjust parameters again see if there is something you don’t need to reduce dmg and take a small break before resetting and attempting it

[manic mica]

I made a mistake a few weeks ago max griding my burgh only for him to fail the week's on-type champion stadium again

[verbal karma]

I mean...are those params bad?

[manic mica]

And now I can't revert his sync orbs

[manic mica]

Ouch

[manic kiln]

select no zone, you didn't use any zone or you still use anni skyla

[verbal karma]

Nah, I replaced Anni Skyla

Anyway, thanks

[swift swan]

too much strength

on top of drasna's bulk

go full offense

pick up all the attack params

[manic kiln]

you used kukui right, replace him with bp clemont, can still drop defense and max both your def so you can tank the aoe from sides

[gritty nymph]

Too much strength for me to be comfortable with the parameters

[silver dirge]

Drop defence faster too ^^

[verbal karma]

Just did, and Mina is still unable to tank the AoEs

I even replaced "Power on Hit 2" with "No Zone Change" and "Strikes Take x3 Damage", and still no luck

Just what am I missing at this point?

[verbal karma]

But that would be even worse

Because then Mina would get beaten even faster

[silver dirge]

Your problem is they're bulky, so you're struggling to clear em fast enough

[keen jasper]

Apparently, Lisia is better than Lodge Lillie

[silver dirge]

Gen pool Lisia?

[keen jasper]

Because I can switch the +5 Atk./Sp. Atk. for Crit Shield

Thereby making my team's survival better

[verbal karma]

My problem isn't just that they are bulky

My problem is that they are bulky AND deal entirely too much damage

[silver dirge]

Okay well tweak the params, try what gets you closer and adjust as you go. For a start reduce their bulk and find a way to buff your teams defences quickly

[verbal karma]

Hell, I need to be lucky that they don't spam Hyper Voice or that Drasna doesn't use Dragon Rush too often

[verbal karma]

I need help with the param tweaking, though

Because I myself don't know what I am doing wrong with my params

[silver dirge]

Attack and HP params are pretty self explanatory, and strength is equivalent to a level increase. E.g. Strength 6 is giving them 60 extra levels, boosting all stats proportionately

You're picking up strength 6 + 3 so you're making them quite bulky in terms of HP & Defences

[swift swan]

with full attack params, they're even less bulky so you can kill the sides easily with 1-2 play roughs. does that mean they hit harder? sure. you probably need to reset quite a lot. but it guarantees an easier kill

[swift swan]

like i said, you're putting way too many strength. use pomatools and insert your params on Drasna's team. see how her HP inflates.

[verbal karma]

Damn, I can only replace Strength 1, it seems...

[swift swan]

alright i finished class. let me record some runs

[silver dirge]

You can pick up Atk up 5

[versed meteor]

How tf did this not work

Like 400 damage flash cannon tf

[verbal karma]

Even this param set isn't enough to remove the bulk from the sides 😦

[verbal karma]

What does it replace?

[versed meteor]

[silver dirge]

Are you going for a water build or dark build?

[silver dirge]

Nov might be recording something, if haven't sent in a bit I'll do one

[versed meteor]

Water

[silver dirge]

Ideally you'd be disabling their zone

[versed meteor]

I did but i don't think it matters in r1

[manic kiln]

I know you don’t like changing team too much but consider this team next time
I don't like using mina at all she's not that great. as a f2p lodge lillie is better and easier to use, pretty much braindead when pair with sycamore, sycamore can top off her dps with moonblast, 1 moonblast can 1 shot the sides

[silver dirge]

How did you disable zone if you're going for a water build? Dark zone?

I mean you should be able to clear regardless but they'll do more damage in zone

And NC Calem isn't the bulkiest* of tanks

[silver dirge]

I wonder if they have lodge Lillie though

[swift swan]

got the video. uploading rn

[keen jasper]

OMFG, I finally got Drasna

[verbal karma]

...is Lodge Lillie really that much better, though?

I tried using her before, and she kinda sucks tbh

[swift swan]

I think Mina has a slightly higher nuke but that's about it

[manic kiln]

the thing with this team is you can clear presync, postsync, also acts like a debuff/stall team because lillie heals with her sync and can debuff both atk stats so it's braindead because they can't kill you unless you fuck up the parameters. I usually don't use Tina tho but you have her so use her to max crit and help debuff faster

[verbal karma]

Sadly, my Fairy selection is extremely limited

(Ya know, maybe I really should prioritize Bede over Palmer after all)

[manic kiln]

well new Valerie is great, she's a strike so you should have plenty of 4* strike candies to feed her

[swift swan]

upload almost done

[verbal karma]

I don't have any spare candy to feed, sorry

[swift swan]

https://youtu.be/oK7AMmG15To?si=j3c4UhUDV35ryVmJ

[manic kiln]

how do you run out of 4* strike candy

[verbal karma]

Please don't ask

[silver dirge]

@versed meteor here's my NC Serena clear, NC Calem will work just as well (maybe even better) but I don't have him

[swift swan]

follow the params. go full attack. it may be frustrating to avoid too many AOEs but it's much better than struggling to kill

[verbal karma]

Heck, can't check videos right now

Do you at least have a list of the params?

[swift swan]

give me a sec

[silver dirge]

just remember CS is sometimes a game of resetting/tweaking for RNG rinse and repeat

[silver dirge]

nicee 4k? What comp?

[swift swan]

`50: Physical damage reduction
50: Special damage reduction
50: No status condition
50: Interference immunity
50: Strike sync pairs take x3 damage

100: Sync buff 5
100: attack & sp atk 3
100: ally healing -5
100: power on hit 1
100: special damage reduction 8

150: gradual healing
150: attack & sp atk 5
150: can't change zone, weather, terrain

200: strength 2
200: power on hit2

300: strength 3
300: ally move gauge -2
300: standard dmg reduction`

@verbal karma

[keen jasper]

What's this?

[swift swan]

For trin because they can't access the video i sent atm

[verbal karma]

Why can Dragon Pulse insta-kill Hop?!

[silver dirge]

^

[proud axle]

It has 100 BP... that's more than her sync move (86 BP)
It's not even her strongest move (Dragon Rush with 130 BP and she has Piercing Gaze so it won't miss)

Fierce/Grand Entry make it worse, since the first stack of any buff is the biggest (+25%)

[verbal karma]

Okay, no

Even if I do manage to beat Drasna

Mina is STILL unable to OHKO the sides

She's just not strong enough

[silver dirge]

Did you watch nov's recording yet? She is definitely strong enough to clear it

[verbal karma]

Like I said, I cannot watch Youtube videos right now

After all, I am not at home

[silver dirge]

Well I can assure you Mina can clear the stage just fine

[verbal karma]

Hold on, the video probably still uses Kukui, lemme switch back to him

[silver dirge]

nov uses kukui, hop and mina yes. But kukui's only role there is to debuff defence by 1 each turn. So BP clement is actually the better choice here if you don't need him elsewhere. while mina sets up clement can buff defences and then start screeching, which will -2 each turn. Effectively achieving the same as Kukui in that time frame, but also having buffed defences

[vast dome]

Do O have Special Rock striker or tech?

[silver dirge]

Not sure what you're asking

[swift swan]

I only used kukui because Leer is AOE so i don't need to debuff sides later on too

[silver dirge]

Ah that is an oversight on my end, I forgot the aoe aspect

[swift swan]

watch the video later. after Mina uses charm three times, you switch immediately to play rough on the sides

mina can OHKO drasna on sync with the parameters I used

[manic kiln]

left is special so only need to debuff right

not that hard tho

[swift swan]

after that it's only a matter of one or two play roughs on the sides

[verbal karma]

Okay, switching back to Kukui did the Trick

Thanks, nov

[silver dirge]

nice

[manic kiln]

it shouldn't take this long for 1 clear tho, consider changing Mina to someone else next time if you can pass them easily screenshot then save to #1010274591601598555 so you can reuse them next time, if you have a hard time change your team

[silver dirge]

BP valerie is a good option to keep in mind

[manic kiln]

she's really nice, planning to ex her soon but not high prio

[silver dirge]

I EX'd her earlier today

[old orchid]

I already have a bunch of EX Fairy dmg dealers so i probably wont EX her but man she is so fun to play

Girl powercreeping herself

[silver dirge]

I used her with Marnie on steel weak too, double mawile cool

[vast dome]

Malva has Sentry Entry. Special type rock units are recommended, right,

[nocturne pawn]

siebold demanding paralysis is so annoying because my luck is thrown out the window on that stage

[nocturne pawn]

its negligible

olivia was able to 2k presync it back then

[silver dirge]

kinda, but physical can clear it just fine

[vast dome]

Nice

[nocturne pawn]

so 2.5k shouldnt change much

[zealous karma]

Olivia can 2.5K pre sync it easily

With gen pool pairs

[vast dome]

I use her with Kukui and Acerola

[nocturne pawn]

the only time where wise entry x2 has legitimately fuckef me over was bug weak lucian but that’s because physical bug is dogshit

[vast dome]

Thinkin of EXing him soon

[zealous karma]

I used her with hilbert and Acerola

[zealous karma]

Not the bugsy and Noland erasure

[silver dirge]

Elec weak Aaron was also kinda funny when it first came out. Not as much now

[trail smelt]

I sure hope an OP bug with a favorite trainer is showing up soon lol

[silver dirge]

a better bug zone damage dealing unit would be awesome

[trail smelt]

I don’t like my bug roster by now

[vast dome]

I have only gen pool bug types

In other words, weakish

Drasna and Wikstrom require zones to combat

I think I have Ground wish only

[silver dirge]

you can clear both without zone

[trail smelt]

My strongest bug is 2/5 Alder which… is kinda fine

[silver dirge]

here's a good clear

ah shit sorry ping

[vast dome]

Oh yrah I have Alder, 1/5

[verbal karma]

Yeah, I do plan to bring her to 3/5 soon-ish

[vast dome]

In fact I have a bunch of limited strikers at 1/5

[verbal karma]

Anyway, why can Head Smash just...OHKO Lodge Cynthia?

This is not okay

[silver dirge]

does lodge cynthia set sandstorm?

[formal vigil]

No

[verbal karma]

Nope

[silver dirge]

Naomi really wants sandstorm

[verbal karma]

None of my supports do, sadly

[formal vigil]

Maybe try bertha?

[silver dirge]

Was gonna say

[manic kiln]

no sand, no ex support

[formal vigil]

Though idk she can take a headsmash

[verbal karma]

Already used her on Malva

[silver dirge]

Naomi's 2 passives under sand are equivalent to ground zone. She also has a bunch of other stuff in grid that helps (under sand)

You could just go Bertha, Naomi and a special support, no?

[formal vigil]

Try using accerola and replace Courtney with a tank

[silver dirge]

Oh no Bertha

Acerola works

[verbal karma]

Again, I already used Bertha on Malva

[silver dirge]

Courtney is going to introduce a guage problem and she debuffs defence which is useless for Naomi

[verbal karma]

Oh, regular Acerola?

[formal vigil]

Yes

[silver dirge]

EX (Special Support) & Acerola will be good

iirc Acerola gets MPR at 1/5 but correct me if I'm wrong

[verbal karma]

and damn, I really wanted to give my two recent Ground type sync pairs a try...

[swift swan]

it's a whopping 188 BP, don't be too surprised. just reset if she uses it.

[formal vigil]

She does also astonish aggrevation

[silver dirge]

Either commit to Naomi or Courtney, not together. Naomi probably better than Courtney I think

[manic kiln]

i know it's not important because people cleared with less (lv1) but why do you still keep them at lv125 uncap mats and exp books are not rare

[formal vigil]

People cleared with level 1

[swift swan]

naomi does want sand setting though, yeah. just use acerola and pick the "additional effects of moves are more likely to occur" param

so you can have some flinches in

[swift swan]

#1011951121134268458

[silver dirge]

wild

[sick inlet]

Looks at CS oh haha easy after that Electric HS
Fairy weak
Has no Fairies to help out
Ok suffering it is

[silver dirge]

Mina is an accessible option

BP Valerie is too

[swift swan]

Jo is probably doing 2v3

the way they always do

[silver dirge]

Oh

My bad

[swift swan]

I think I 2v3'd fairy-weak bruno with Mina once, but drasna... ugh

[sick inlet]

This is my secret weapon

[silver dirge]

Pre-sync or post?

[sick inlet]

I try my own parameters, but it seems I will have to do pre-sync

[silver dirge]

I see

I'm going to do a 2v3 run but I have SS Wally, NY Lisia so

[sick inlet]

[swift swan]

1/5 Alder is actually very satisfactory

[keen jasper]

Welp, unless I'm willing to risk having the half HP parameter to total 4k pts., my best against Wikstrom is 3.8k with luck

[verbal karma]

...I can beat Diantha now, but the AoE attacks beat Naomi in 1-2 hits 😦

[keen jasper]

Ok, I finally managed a successful 4k pts. Wikstrom test clear

Somehow Bea got a low roll on Earthquake

[swift swan]

have you tried DPSing the sides and relying on sync move to kill diantha or was that not enough

if you're using acerola, pick the "additional effects are more likely to occur" round param and flinch the sides accordingly

[verbal karma]

Not enough...hell, sometimes, the sync doesn't even kill Diantha so I need to quadqueue an Earth Power just to finish her off

[verbal karma]

I actually tried that before as well, but that sadly had the side effect of getting my EX support flinched too often

[sick inlet]

Drasna Sync Special or Physical?

[keen jasper]

Special

[drifting grove]

having trouble beating wikstrom on round 4, who should i use?

used all those pairs except for bea

[proud axle]

Victor's entry Ghost Zone can get rid of the Steel Zone for you, but I wonder if he contributes enough to the team otherwise

Steel Zone's a big problem, the enemy has damage multiplier skills so even their non-Steel moves are stronger than normal

You can also Defog it with Darach, I suppose

Makes me wonder if an offtype Ghost team can do it

You'd need to EX Victor for this (so he can refresh Ghost Zone with his first sync). If you missed the 20 from the login bonus running alongside his event debut, that could be a problem

[dusty yarrow]

Nuke

[proud axle]

The next idea I have is Cobalion Bea Darach. Defog the Steel Zone and Feather Dance to hopefully weaken the enemy

[drifting grove]

i see, i did get the 20 pus however my best ghost type attacker is fantina at 1/5

[proud axle]

If this is Master Mode, then Defog can also blow away Critical Shield. Easy +150 points

[drifting grove]

yeah this is 2.5k mm

[proud axle]

Is 2/5 Allister worse?

[drifting grove]

forgot about him my bad

[dusty yarrow]

you might need MP on X Attack on Bea with the Cobal-Bea-Darach team... but then again Bea still somewhat stings with +4 Atk

[proud axle]

Flash Cannon is still a threat, since Darach can't ruin their SpAtk.

[drifting grove]

my bea is only 1/5 but i could try it

[proud axle]

Kalos really is a difficult league...

[verbal karma]

God, that was way more obnoxious than it has any right to be

[proud axle]

That's Kalos for you

[verbal karma]

no wonder I always hated Kalos

[dusty yarrow]

You can go for Lisia w/ Flinch Cheeses (but that's a lot of flipcoins for some flinches with her)

[drifting grove]

i could restart and ex bp valerie so that i can poison stall wikstrom instead

[verbal karma]

Lisia can't Sandstorm, tho

[manic kiln]

even Hapu and Clay can clear this

it's not that bad

[dusty yarrow]

wait... Sandstorm for what? (I was talking about other options for Darach as defogging Steel Zone)

[verbal karma]

for Naomi

[dusty yarrow]

okay, you're confusing me

[teal pawn]

Damn siebold literally 1 surf crt and all non support ded

[dusty yarrow]

also... how bout an Egg🧑‍🍳

[proud axle]

https://tenor.com/view/offer-nice-egg-tryin-time-danny-devito-gif-5352739

[lime raven]

Oh great

Just when i beat mm cs yesterday

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

[teal pawn]

Took insane amount of tries just to clear 2k on siebold with ontype

I hate this cs they just aoe everywhere and one crt ends the run

[swift swan]

welp, that's kalos for you

[sick inlet]

I hate fairy types
What's the best fairy unit out there?

[silver dirge]

It's NY Lisia for me

[dusty yarrow]

I enjoy BP Valerie alot for... (Idk if she counts as f2p option...)

[mellow linden]

We have BP Valerie + Mina now

[silver dirge]

BP Valerie is great too

[teal pawn]

Can Bea 3/5 beat wikstrom on type?

[mellow linden]

Definitely

[silver dirge]

With ease

[mellow linden]

The only thing to watch out for is your Supports' bulk if you don't have Fighting Zone

[teal pawn]

I have her at 3/5 but no more orbs

[mellow linden]

Because Wikstrom hits pretty hard under Steel Zone

[dusty yarrow]

Have a defogger or a zoner to remove/replace the steel zone

[teal pawn]

Oh yeah I'm in round 3 can that help abit?

[dusty yarrow]

Light Screen I see

[mellow linden]

Wikstrom is physical, so not really doing much

[silver dirge]

[teal pawn]

[swift swan]

remember R3 will ruin your quadqueue window

[dark osprey]

actually that flash cannon is special i guess

[mellow linden]

But like Pla5ma said, if you find that you need to remove Steel Zone you can bring Defog

Oh, I guess Wikstrom is mixed

So round 3 effect will have some value

[teal pawn]

I see

[silver dirge]

A decently bulky tank with some defense buffs should be okay with Bea to presync it tho

[dark osprey]

but yeah. even with the effect he would hit quite hard

[keen jasper]

Holy fuck, why am I making myself suffer by going through RNG hell against 4k Wikstrom?

[swift swan]

i get it though. steel zone + increased offensive stats are a nasty combination

if I didn't have SSA Cynthia I know I'd go through massive RNG hell

[dark osprey]

or can try and bring a sleep mon for waiting out the steel zone

[teal pawn]

I tried poison stall earlier but one crt just knocks my support out and if that wasnt enough, earthquake non stop

[swift swan]

honestly i'd rather bring a defog unit. extra 150 points for crit shield too

[teal pawn]

Why crt shield?

[keen jasper]

Because it can be defogged

[teal pawn]

Oh

That's new to me

[sick inlet]

Defog removes all barriers

[keen jasper]

And zones

[teal pawn]

So I only need to defog once and it's enough?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[teal pawn]

Aight I can try that out

[keen jasper]

I think I'm considering putting HS1 on EleSSa from now on when the next LG comes

[onyx ice]

That's why you give vigilance to your supports

[sick inlet]

Not a bad idea

[keen jasper]

Because holy fuck triggering Leg Up is such a pain, and I have to deal with more RNG factors

[teal pawn]

I did but got super unlucky, I think the one who had it was skyla and I used her in offtype setup

[keen jasper]

I think my 4k pts. clear against Wikstrom is more painful than my 4k pts. Drasna clear

[teal pawn]

Would have been easier runs if my other supports had it but rng says no this time

[swift swan]

best lucky skill for her

(i say, while my eleSSa has vigilance)

[onyx ice]

Same

[sick inlet]

But then you want to trigger leg up with hs1

[onyx ice]

I keep vigilance, because in gauntlet is more useful than hs1

[keen jasper]

I need the luck that I had a while ago on my test clear

[dusty yarrow]

I tried to Pre-Sync Seibold at Half-Sync with originally Hilbert/EleSSa-w/ Para Grid/Nemona but Nemona 1/5 is not enough (swapped EleSSa w/ X.Mas Jasmine for bulk to take the Sync)

[keen jasper]

God, why am I handicapping myself so hard against Wikstrom

[sick inlet]

Why would you presync half syncs thoughhh

They gon hand it to ya

[keen jasper]

Technically you can pre-sync Siebold if you have the 2 rats

Even at 4k pts.

[sick inlet]

Solo looks better

[keen jasper]

Nah, more points is better

The only RNG from Wikstrom is that he doesn't do EQ

[dusty yarrow]

cuz Idiot me thought that can work

[sick inlet]

What does the point prove if I need more units to do it

[sick inlet]

I mean, in some other stages with some other units, it might.

[keen jasper]

More points = Proving the actual extent of the units

[marble pike]

Is it weird I just use kimono bisharp to cheese the steel stages

[sick inlet]

Solo= showcases the capability of these units and how they can withstand a stage by themselves 🗿

[keen jasper]

Solgaleo is my bread and butter for steal-weak

[sick inlet]

No, Kimino has a superb Nuke

Well being tech

Double nukes

[marble pike]

Yeah just slap 3x tech damage

And his counter go

[silver dirge]

I opt for 3.5k-4k points instead of solos too

[sick inlet]

Easy way out 👀

[dusty yarrow]

and me being a casual player, I opt on neither of them

[silver dirge]

you could say, I really don't like the slow path to sync when you only got 1 unit

[sick inlet]

I mean, 4k is ridiculous anyways ngl

[keen jasper]

Worst part for me against Wikstrom is that I have half HP and -3 sync CD parameters chosen

[marble pike]

Eww ground I don’t have any good units for ground

[silver dirge]

Yeah 4k kinda becomes insane cos of some of the params up gotta pick

[silver dirge]

Naomi? Is f2p and pretty good

[dusty yarrow]

tho Im a bit of a hypocrite I've done once of solo (Phoebe-Dark)

[keen jasper]

SC Zinnia is the only unit to do 5k pts. solo

[sick inlet]

-3 CD bro you on suicide mission

[dusty yarrow]

I'll try more points on some point of me playing CS

[keen jasper]

Nah, I just need the luck

[sick inlet]

My girl Marnie deserves all the Solo glory she can get

[keen jasper]

I seriously need Wikstrom to not do EQ

[primal field]

Does she cook?

[keen jasper]

And for EleSSa to trigger Leg Up and do 4 Breathtaking total

[marble pike]

[sick inlet]

She cooks and eat

[marble pike]

Max I’ve gotten breathtaking to work is 3 times

[sick inlet]

Pretty lucky in some people's books

[silver dirge]

Okay this is insane I do not have this much patience

The most RNG i will accept is resetting for a 30% MPR

[sick inlet]

Competing with -3 sync CD using RNGesus' powers

[keen jasper]

-3

[sick inlet]

Ye i fixed

XD

[drifting grove]

would it be worth it to ex a 1/5 bea to try and beat wikstrom?

[keen jasper]

Hell nah

[dusty yarrow]

I would only run -3 Sync CD if its a Steel Weak Bertha with the Gloria Team

only any Steel Weak w/ the Gloria team

[sick inlet]

While Bea is really strong at 3/5 and sweeps a stage clean, I don't think her 1/5 can emulate her same success

[dusty yarrow]

but even then its so risky sometimes

[silver dirge]

The half sync round param is my least favourite CS param. I'd rather brute force through a crit sheild

[drifting grove]

thought so, ty

[sick inlet]

My favorite to Solo

[dusty yarrow]

Imagine if we get a new round param
"Crit Shield upon entry on both side"

[silver dirge]

Ahh that does make sense

[sick inlet]

Welcome infinite stalls

[keen jasper]

I'm not sure if you can poison stall Wikstrom at 4k pts.

[sick inlet]

EQ EQ EQ

Wait till you see that Diantha with Head Smash spam

[silver dirge]

I've tried a 3.5k poison stall, did not work out. But I think it could with perma field effects + like reflect/light screen

[sick inlet]

I haven't stalled in years

I feel like I am forgetting how it's done now

[silver dirge]

It's def not my go to either but it's fun to do with p2w units

[glacial star]

ok now actually i need help with completing my tiles 💀

[dusty yarrow]

I run stall (somewhat...) in a different way (Malva-Dark)

[sick inlet]

Is that

Even a stall

[glacial star]

my pairs

Tiles needed

[sick inlet]

Oo still Hard CS

[dusty yarrow]

timing for the Fighting, Rock & Ground Weak

[glacial star]

yes

[sick inlet]

Is your Olivia actually 1/5¿

[nocturne pawn]

fighting weak wikstrom is very annoying because hilbert is elec weak