Champion Stadium

[verbal karma]

then Ash's sync for the sides

[manic kiln]

And now you fail to read

[trail smelt]

Wait Siebold had uhh what was it, the status effect thing?

That explains why my Nemona team didn’t work LMAO

[verbal karma]

I did not, though?

actually, you failed to read because you missed the part where I said "then Ash's sync for the sides"

[manic kiln]

I never said you don’t need elesa sync

You never need ash to sync or need elesa mpr

[verbal karma]

but you said that EleSSa does nothing for the team

[trail smelt]

I turned off status conditions, then instead of trying again with Nemona I just had Ash destroy everything lol

[verbal karma]

which is not true

[manic kiln]

To kill that stage

She does nothing

[verbal karma]

but she did?

[manic kiln]

It’s the same result with or without her

If they hit harder she’s gone

[verbal karma]

...eh, without her, Ash wouldn't have been able to sync in time to beat the sides

[manic kiln]

You don’t need the sync to kill sides tho

[verbal karma]

wdym

...okay, I am getting too distracted right now

[manic kiln]

Just kill them with thunder, they can’t kill you but whatever

[verbal karma]

right now, I gotta focus on R4

oh no

Hilbert dies too fast to Malva

...yeah, okay, no

Bertha/Olivia/Hilbert simply isn't working out against Malva

Olivia's Stone Edge SOMEHOW hits like wet tissue

[manic kiln]

Hilbert can’t tank

[raven grove]

Any team suggestions for diantha and siebold

[manic kiln]

She has sentry entry so olivia will hit less than usual but doesn’t mean you can’t clear

[raven grove]

I don't have alot of units powered and was wondering which ones I should focus on for this week

[manic kiln]

Siebold team is fine

As for diantha use a more defensive support

[raven grove]

Alright thanks

[manic kiln]

Also replace colres

He debuffs defense but red moves are special

You plan to use red on drasna or diantha?

[raven grove]

I used red for drasna

Do you think Gloria could work

[manic kiln]

Ok need something else for diantha then

[raven grove]

My blue is at lvl 2

[manic kiln]

It’s easier to use a special atk unit, she has double defense

You can still use physical if you want tho

[raven grove]

Do you think Mewtwo could work

[verbal karma]

Hmm...gotta find a good Hilbert replacement...

[manic kiln]

Is he power boosted

[raven grove]

no

[manic kiln]

Try gloria blaine and a support then, skyla or aaron is good

[manic kiln]

Acerola should do it, use sun for speed buff from tm then override it with sand

She’s also tankier

[raven grove]

Ok thank you

[verbal karma]

thnx

[manic kiln]

Reset if they use flare blitz or quick atk tho

[simple sigil]

What team should I use for Glacia? Already used SS Red, Blaine, and MC Torchic

[north crown]

hard or MM

[simple sigil]

Just hard, sir. This is just my first time tackling Champion Stadium

[north crown]

sonia is literally right there

[north crown]

do you know about the type medal?

[simple sigil]

Uh I have no idea about that one

[verbal karma]

you...came a little too late, I'm afraid

[simple sigil]

Is that the thing from the Kalos Challenge? Like whenever you use a certain type of element, you accumulate medal pieces?

[north crown]

yes. you have to complete it for every region before unlocking Master Mode (MM for short) for each region's CS rotation.

you used a mono fire team...

[simple sigil]

I still haven't tackled that one, sir. I am just trying to do the Pasio Special Stadium

That's where I used the fire team

[north crown]

oh my bad.. my brain has been fried after banging my head at LG

[simple sigil]

I am just trying to finish the Pasio Special Stadium on hard for the gems

[north crown]

have you ever payed attention to the parameters?

[sinful garden]

you dont have to use all fire types for the special cs btw

only the damage dealer is fine

and even then if you struggle you can just fully offtype it

[simple sigil]

Yeah but I am not very good at making team comps

[sinful garden]

we have a teambuilding guide

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[north crown]

I don't think they have that many offtype options

[sinful garden]

just pointing that out

[north crown]

torchic, ssred, blaine was a pretty good team tho

[north crown]

Also I see that every single pair is 1/5 here. Did you not think about changing the move levels accordingly..?

[sinful garden]

leon/ssred/silver/bluecanine/ncleaf you can def fully ontype this

[raven grove]

you can't change the move levels on mobile

I think

[north crown]

hold on lemme test that rn

bro I can literally change it

[raven grove]

Fr

I've been tryna

how'd you do it

[north crown]

oh it's pretty hard since the number is super small

you have to click the number

zooming in helps

[simple sigil]

Oh so you can change it. It's my first time using that one

Thanks

[grand trout]

Lodge serena is so funny

[raven grove]

Ok thanks I'll try it out

[nocturne pawn]

okkk why does siebold have 45k hp now

[junior crown]

Why does Kalos only have physical sync moves?? They should balance it better...

[nocturne pawn]

its not like we’re lacking physical defense buffers

[junior crown]

For my F2P stall it's harder, I'll have to use Hop and/or SwinMisty

[nocturne pawn]

also i swear siebold didnt have this much hp

💀

[manic kiln]

He has the same hp as aaron, pretty normal tbh when kalos was released after sinnoh

[nocturne pawn]

elesa with support ex and terrain only brought him down to dark yellow

[nocturne pawn]

yeah but my electric sucks

and healthy advantage is cringe

[manic kiln]

Og elesa? With expanded grid? She should be enough tho with volkner and sonia

[nocturne pawn]

yeah she isnt

im gonna try it with attack but he was already hitting hard before

[manic kiln]

Which round is this

[nocturne pawn]

was r2 but i did drasna instead

so now fire weak wikstrom and elec siebold

[manic kiln]

If you do siebold round 3 you’ll have to postsync anyway with elesa team

[nocturne pawn]

well im not planning to

i forgot wikstrom is anti special without wise entrynx2 so fun

[formal vigil]

He is?

[nocturne pawn]

discourage 1 and satisfied snarl + ripple effect on sides and he has struggle bug

idr how i brute forced it on 2k

cuz its been half a year

[junior crown]

Impervious or Dauntless

or more sp attack buff works too

[nocturne pawn]

or just

use a physical attacker and not deal with the hassle

[sand karma]

Who is safest to challenge for half sync countdown?

[manic kiln]

Depends on your team, if you have Ash do siebold for that round

[sand karma]

I want to use N since I just got him

Ash is too op to enjoy the match

I was thinking Sonia, N, Volkner on Siebold

[nocturne pawn]

id try that

[manic kiln]

Just tried a doggo clear, paulo can’t really tank and forced to used dmax early to get rid of sun, but it’s fun, he’ll be great with ex role

[tribal agate]

wonder how many people are gonna select Raihan (the good choice) to counter Malva this week?

wait

no pomatools

[old orchid]

[tribal agate]

dammit i was on the wrong page i knew something was off

[tribal agate]

also that's so eye candy

Paulo alolan fr

[manic kiln]

Wait I thought raihan is the counter to diantha steel weak, you want special atk for that stage

[tribal agate]

yes don't mind me lol

[manic kiln]

Couldn’t keep him alive tho, 1 quick atk and 1 flare blitz and gone

Had to ex him tho or sandstorm will be out before olivia sync

[tribal agate]

yeah makes sense i mean sprint pair without their ex effect is sadge

[manic kiln]

I don’t like the play style that much, they want better team mates

[sand karma]

Wait wasn't it steel weak Glacia?

[tribal agate]

steel weak Glacia is sentry entry x2 yea

steel weak Diantha buffs her DEF to high heavens tho

ig they meant to say it's easier to debuff SPD and go special

like slap that Lucian

[sand karma]

Oh okay

[nocturne pawn]

i think elec siebold is my least favorite cs stage ever

my electric types are not that strong and the rng required so that sonia doesnt die is so annoying

[weak sleet]

Can ss Diantha and Olivia clear malva? I see she has extra defense.

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[weak sleet]

What type of support should I run with them? And who should sync first?

[nocturne pawn]

if you have ingo use him since olivia wants sand

[weak sleet]

I do, I just got him from the scout.

[nocturne pawn]

great then that should be easy

grid olivia for amped up 2 on stone edge

since sandy pep rally is slow

[weak sleet]

So this?

For Olivia's grid

And this good for the team? Does ingo want more than 1/5?

[mellow linden]

A grid closer to this for Olivia

She doesn't need to use X Attack with Ingo on the team

And likewise thanks to Ingo gauge should be fine

[weak sleet]

Thanks!

I assume I'll sync with Diantha first?

Because of mega evolving

[mellow linden]

SS Diantha doesn't actually need Mega that much if she's not the one Syncing, so can try a few different things and see what works

[weak sleet]

Oh I never knew that, thanks.

[nocturne pawn]

unless yours is 3/5 i would just sync with olivia to wipe sides

[weak sleet]

Nope just 1/5.

[nocturne pawn]

yeah sync with olivia then

[weak sleet]

For flying, can blue and anniversary Skyla clear it 12.5k?

[keen jasper]

That's more than enough

[weak sleet]

Oh good, kalos scares me since it has extra stuff on the opponents.

[manic kiln]

It’s not that much harder tho, all can be cleared with gen pool units, if you have any limited units it’ll be easier

[proud garnet]

[digital heron]

Who should I use against Drasna?

[nocturne pawn]

nc red just ruins her

[manic kiln]

That team is fine tho, pretty much overkill

[obsidian agate]

i’m trying blue and anni skyla for diantha but he’s not doing enough damage and she’s doing too much

[weak sleet]

Oh that's good to know

[manic kiln]

Sync with blue 1st, he wants the mega form. Time your flying zone, don’t use it too early until you fully buff your dps. Use a defensive support

[nocturne pawn]

nc red is already overkill

💀

[manic kiln]

And take advantage of anni skyla flinch

[obsidian agate]

is ss blue a good support choice here?

[manic kiln]

Yes but not for new people without lucky skill, quadqueue skill, rotation issues….

[manic kiln]

Yes you can use him

[latent eagle]

Bro I need help for against CH Red

[nocturne pawn]

just run a tank

[manic kiln]

You have cleaf

[nocturne pawn]

nc leaf makes him a joke and a half

[manic kiln]

Just use a sp def tank

Even without ex

[latent eagle]

I mean the CH Red CS as a whole and idk who to add for CH leaf team or SS hilda team

[nocturne pawn]

just add a tank

for both

they are both completely self sufficient

also i would personally use arcanine instead of evelyn paired with anni N

[latent eagle]

Okay just saying "add a tank" doesn't do anything when I don't know what classifies as a tank

[nocturne pawn]

its a flex slot

since you already have all the stuff they would need just add something to help with survivability

[manic kiln]

A tank is a defensive support, can buff def or sp def and have some healing options

[latent eagle]

Is there like a list of units that classify as a tank bc dawg I have 200+ units I don't remember what they all do

[silver dirge]

hey this is a longg shot but I'm tryna do a 17.5k run and I'm stuck on Diantha because she's physical and my nuke (Anni Skyla) isn't viable, I also can't go for SS Ethan so I'm stuck with SS Steven who just isn't doing enough damage to clear the stage. Does anyone have any tips? Mostly strength and HP params, would it be possible to still brute force with a special attacker or na?

[mellow linden]

Basically any Support who buffs defenses is a tank

[nocturne pawn]

literally just filter who can buff defense or spdef

[manic kiln]

No if you play the game read their kits, or using filter

[nocturne pawn]

anni skyla works

just bring a stronger offensive support

[mellow linden]

A. Skyla can still nuke fine with a good Support

[silver dirge]

I'm running Jasmine atm so I can SE next

Would that work?

Nvm I need to buff her don't I

SS Kris?

[molten nebula]

how tf do you manage to sync before he sets up the crit barrier? i'm going crazy

[mellow linden]

I ran A. Skyla + Palentine’s Elesa + Kiawe and my only issue was resetting for good enemy move RNG

[latent eagle]

Dude, I have 200+ units with memory issues I ain't remembering ANYTHING reading kits or no

[nocturne pawn]

THERE IS AN IN GAME FILTER

USE IT

[digital heron]

Best team against Siebold?

[nocturne pawn]

try 3/5 bp soph

if that doesnt work uh off type

his stage is just annoying

[silver dirge]

hmm okok I'll see what I can do. I still need another damage dealer to take care of the sides because they're super bulky @ 3.5k points. So I need a support that'll buff special and physical, don't have NC bede or NC calem.

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[nocturne pawn]

i think master mode

[latent eagle]

I can use the filter all I want n some of you will still say im doing stuff wrong

[digital heron]

Normal/Hard

[old orchid]

BP Sophocles is very good, just remember to raise him to 3/5. Also inflicting paralysis is a must to do meaningful damage

[nocturne pawn]

…well sitting here complaining about it certainly isnt helping

[mellow linden]

Try to run 2 or 3 different types on each team then so you can fill out Type Medal

[digital heron]

Who should I replace for Sophocles?

[nocturne pawn]

eh tbh

i dont think its worth trying to get 3 type medals on siebold this week

[mellow linden]

2 is doable though

[nocturne pawn]

other fights are more manageable his is pretty demanding in terms of gimmick

[mellow linden]

Could do Sonia + BP Sophocles + random 3rd for type medal

[manic kiln]

Is this too much of a work for you. The stage info is in the pin, red stage uses mostly special moves so you want sp def support

[old orchid]

i didnt say replacing Sophocles tho, but do as Cobalt said

[old orchid]

turn on all allies filter too for aoe spdef buffer

[latent eagle]

This isn't just about Red's stage, both hilda and CH Leaf have a blank spot

[nocturne pawn]

what…

[manic kiln]

It’s just an example

[mellow linden]

How many teams are we talking here and for which Pasio Special Stadium stages?

[manic kiln]

Do the same for the rest of them

[nocturne pawn]

ok for hilda you need to tell us what fight shes going in

cuz the tank depends on the fight

like glacia is all special koga is all physical

etc

like these teams are capable of doing 2.5k just try it first

[manic kiln]

The pin has all the info you can build a team base on the opponent moves and passives, like glacia also use special moves and hail so you want sun and sp def too

[old orchid]

just a reminder that yall should be respectful of each other for better understanding

[manic kiln]

And try the teams you build first to see if you can clear. There are so many people asking at the same time sometimes we can’t help you build a team from scratch

[silver dirge]

You can also click the little + thingy on the stage to see what if there's a certain type of attacks that'll work better (atk/sp atk) and other recommendations

[mellow linden]

Definitely can recommend giving teams a shot and seeing how they perform. Can help improve teambuilding intuition and worst case scenario the only thing you lose is time

[nocturne pawn]

its not even from scratch its just not knowing what a fight needs… which could be solved by checking pins

[old orchid]

[latent eagle]

I’m trying to figure out CH red CS so the all the stages as a whole not just one stage, I don’t know who should do what round or what order

I was building my teams a few days ago for red’s CS and someone asked for my supports n I sent them and they never got back to me which understandably w/ how crazy this channel is lmao

So basically I’m asking what order should I do the rounds w/ who I have as teams? And who should I stick w/ CH Leaf

[nocturne pawn]

nc leaf trivializes red

and i wouldnt use sycamore with ss red

a sun setter instead

yeah uh

why is ss morty and blaine on the same team

[mellow linden]

Round order doesn't matter much (if at all) for Pasio Special Stadium

[latent eagle]

Mishap on my part is all

[mellow linden]

Also yeah, SS Morty and Blaine should be on 2 separate teams since you only need 1 Sun setter on a given team. By similar logic you could actually put SS Erika elsewhere since NC Leaf can set Sun with her B Move and it's permanent field effects on Round 5

[nocturne pawn]

i think ss red should go on like

grimsley or koga

or like any stage that isnt glacia

[mellow linden]

The big thing is to save your 2 strongest damage-dealers (and a Sun setter for each) for the Glacia and Red fights. From there your options are pretty flexible since the rest of the stages are from much less difficult CS regions

Also keep in mind that Glacia can just choose violence on a given attempt and spam AoE, and there's no shame in resetting and trying again because of that

[nocturne pawn]

thats like every glacia stage except fighting isnt it

[mellow linden]

To an extent

Glacia just be like that

[molten nebula]

sorry to bother you again but could I see the grids 😭😭

[nocturne pawn]

fire is definitely the hardest one tho imo

cuz if you dont replace hail she gets a 30% buff to defenses and a shit ton of hail multipliers

[grand trout]

Glacia is bullshit

[calm marsh]

Pls dont try this team

Is very hard

[grand trout]

There's a 50% chance she'll whittle your hp even without hail

And that's aoe

[calm marsh]

And i dont remember Parameters for that stage

[nocturne pawn]

or just ex hilda

[molten nebula]

alr

[nocturne pawn]

i did the exact same team just with hilda ex

its way more manageable when you can actually wipe sides

[calm marsh]

Yes EX Hilda will so much easy

But non EX Hilda

[molten nebula]

I think my main problem is not dmg but the fact that koga always reaches his crit shield before I can sync for a second time

[calm marsh]

💀

[nocturne pawn]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[nocturne pawn]

you need to do this

to sync twice before he can sync once

[calm marsh]

Or you Sync kill left side first

[sonic blaze]

lol malva's damage is insane, i'm surprised she 1 shots my galarian articuno xd

[silver dirge]

this sounds like a parameter issue

[nocturne pawn]

kid named charging sun 5

[silver dirge]

oop or the fact you didn't disable sun

[nocturne pawn]

but its probably a parameter issue

[sonic blaze]

def this

[nocturne pawn]

cuz bede is a very strong tank

[sonic blaze]

didn't realize there was even sun

xd

[silver dirge]

Still shouldn't one shot tho, check the params too

[nocturne pawn]

even my chalem could take a flare blitz

and he is a lot worse defensively

[sonic blaze]

i always use offensive parameters, same ones every week

[silver dirge]

atk and sp atk up?

[sonic blaze]

they hit hard but first time ic a 1 shot

[nocturne pawn]

guessing you havent seen flint in sinnoh 2.5k then

[sonic blaze]

if he's appeared after 12.5k rewards were out i def have xd

[nocturne pawn]

sinnoh was like 3 months ago?

or 2

hes more offensive than malva

so im surprised you didnt see an ohko there

i remember he did almost 500 damage to ss brendan with +4 spdef

[sonic blaze]

maybe i cheesed with flinch or something other, can't say i remember lol, just that now i saw a 1 shot and was like wtf xd

didn't come too much for advice just cause of "wow" factor ;v

[latent eagle]

This good? And the order I do the rounds doesn’t matter too much?

Oop sycamore is on 2 teams gotta fix that

[nocturne pawn]

uh

id use someone who doesnt need first sync to buff spdef

cuz hes all special

and he might end up dying to triple axel too

[sonic blaze]

i'm guessing this is the special stadium, the order doesn't matter imo, just remember glacia needs sun and if you think there is a team that wastes alot of gauge there was 1 round that did have the gauge acceleration

[manic kiln]

use misty and starmie, cleaf doesn't need ex support to clear red, with lucian & leaf lowering their atk triple axel is not really an issue, sycamore is fine but he's slow

[latent eagle]

Mkay! And my other teams are good? Don’t need changing or anything (sycamore is now just on koga team lol)

[molten nebula]

I can do both probably
i'll try to sync before he does

[peak stirrup]

Is talonflame super tanky or am I just bad?

[old orchid]

no, the stage has the lowest HP of all CS

[silver dirge]

Check your params, (pins), and make sure you disable sun but this is more of a damage thing

[old orchid]

but it has Sentry Entry x2 which doubles base defense, thus making every physical Rock types have neutral damage instead of super effective damage

what team and parameters are you using?

[blazing peak]

If you are using physical rock types, yes

[peak stirrup]

Yeah I’m using Olivia. I don’t have blue for the special rock damage

Might have to offtype or poison stall

[old orchid]

Olivia can still clear with good teammates and params

[peak stirrup]

Was using Hilbert and Bertha

[old orchid]

if she struggles to clear use offtype then

[peak stirrup]

I can offtype with frogs maybe
Or rain team

[blazing peak]

yeah no

[blazing peak]

Who on your team is ex'd and what move level ?

[peak stirrup]

Hilbert and Olivia are both 5/5 EX
Bertha 4/5 not EX

[blazing peak]

Olivia needs ex
Sandstorm

Bertha may looks like a good tank but if you use her without ex she isn't great

Good then

[peak stirrup]

Hilbert is tanking not Bertha

[blazing peak]

Lemme see how it goes with the params i have

[old orchid]

how about parameters?

[peak stirrup]

I’m using the ones in the pinned

On type pre sync

[cold tusk]

funningly enough if you got a rock zone setter with sandstorm you can still deal alot of dmg to talonflame

[peak stirrup]

I don’t have SS Diantha

[cold tusk]

rip

[blazing peak]

it works

I think it's a question of parameters

tho i must admit it is not the easiest with this team

If you have sonia it may be better

[blazing peak]

do you want to try my params maybe ?

[peak stirrup]

I can use Sonia but she may not get enough speed up in time for sync

[old orchid]

Olivia can buff speed for herself when she attacks

[blazing peak]

Whenever she crits

[blazing peak]

What move level

[old orchid]

well she should be at +3 crit before attacking anyway

[peak stirrup]

I think 4/5 EX

[blazing peak]

yeah lemme try

[sonic blaze]

he is extra tanky against p.def, so make sure to atk him with s.atk! also get rid of the sun

[silver dirge]

you can do physical attack still, especially since C!Blue is one of the only special rock dmg dealers out there

[sonic blaze]

i offtyped it after i saw my 3/5 ss diantha wasn't doing much 😦

[old orchid]

skill issue then

[peak stirrup]

I beat it by sheer RNG when Olivia survived sync

[blazing peak]

More than doable

congrats man

[peak stirrup]

Now I gotta find a physical flying type

[nocturne pawn]

stone edge only needs +2 to crit

and if you use rock throw why

[blazing peak]

who do you have ?

[blazing peak]

gauge issue

[sharp willow]

if you use rock throw you are auto mode

[blazing peak]

i use ot when i need to queue a movr and i don't have enough gauges

[blazing peak]

You can still use blue

Pretty sure thebstage doesn't have wise entry

And note that with blue's new grid he can make up for the sp atk loss

[peak stirrup]

It doesn’t but it auto drops sp Atk by 2

[blazing peak]

not a problem

Blue can raise his sp attack like... 4 times

minimum

[peak stirrup]

I could pair him with SS Kris as well

That would boost him

[blazing peak]

that also works

[old orchid]

Then its not a problem at all

[blazing peak]

it's just an incentive to get anni steven

It doesn't make the stage any more harder

the problem is the crit shield

You have to presync or Diantha puts a crit shield after sync

[peak stirrup]

And maybe Skyla I guess

[blazing peak]

it also works out

If you have a sp def debuffing pair to use them

[nocturne pawn]

or use darach

[blazing peak]

that too

[manic kiln]

darach is easy mode for this stage tbh, the only threat is the right heatwave, -6 atk from darach + defog and +6 def from skyla and all the physical moves hit like wet noodle

[nocturne pawn]

5head strat use aaron to deny infernape

[thin marten]

why can i only tickle that hawlucha

im this close to off typing

[silver dirge]

Comp? Params?

[thin marten]

i wanted to run nate 3/5 ex with 2/5 ex ss mina and 3/5 acynthia

ex d as well

on the attack moves param

phys reduction*

but my nate ex tickles that hawlucha even if i wait for the crit shield to wear off

[silver dirge]

SS Mina is an interesting choice, any reason in particular?

[thin marten]

protect

blue was better but like,,,,, he needs to sync first

[silver dirge]

oh so you're running nate as dps with fly?

[thin marten]

yeah i wanted to dps this but it's worthless

[nocturne pawn]

phys reduction 8?

cuz thats 80% less from nate

lol

[thin marten]

blue can nuke but it's not enough since i need to wait for second sync and crit shield

[silver dirge]

oop

[nocturne pawn]

…hurricane dps?

[thin marten]

i switched from phys to spec reduction

[nocturne pawn]

it’s enough if you can max it

[thin marten]

i was talking about the extra param

[nocturne pawn]

ok then the answer is nate sucks

like his nuke was the one thing he had

[silver dirge]

I just think SS Mina is not accomplishing much, maybe go for like an SE next or phys Up next if you're set on doing it with nate

[nocturne pawn]

but blue just does it better now

[silver dirge]

And yeah, go for the sync fly just wastes a turn each time

[thin marten]

blue with darach maybe?

[nocturne pawn]

darach

yea

he basically soloes the stage itself

and can get rid of crit shield for an easy post sync

and aoe attack debuff

main thing is that you want to ko infernape to prevent heat waves ruining your life

[thin marten]

i can't clear anything with darach kekw he's not ex d

[nocturne pawn]

is he 3/5

ex doesnt matter if you post sync anyway

[thin marten]

maybe this can work?

[silver dirge]

should work

[nocturne pawn]

oh if hes 3/5 grid pecking order and easy target

sc steven should let him nuke mid fully

[silver dirge]

meanwhile you could stack like 10 physical moves and ohko one of the sides with brave bird and SE up

[thin marten]

oopsie

[nocturne pawn]

???

[thin marten]

32k ohko d both me and that infernape

[nocturne pawn]

??????

what happened

[silver dirge]

don't brave bird til the very last move

[nocturne pawn]

oh brave bird recoil

[silver dirge]

I think he self-killed

[thin marten]

yup

[nocturne pawn]

if you’re using that grid sf5

[tight oyster]

Hi guys first time trying this champion stadium. I want to get all the pieces to get some gems. Please help me with teams i can use from my roster

[silver dirge]

Sure, send your roster

[tight oyster]

If needed can wait a few days to upgrade unit to get necessary piece

[silver dirge]

Presumably you'd like to complete the ~roster?

sorry, medal

[silver dirge]

Have you got all the free sync pairs from Legendary Adventures? They're some really good ones in there

[tight oyster]

Yeah i have some of them

I dont have two i think

[silver dirge]

At the moment I would suggest levelling up some of your good supports. I see NC red so you're all set for ice. N at 140 will let you clear Siebold (electric). Silver EX'd will help you clear Wikstorm (fire).

I forgot what the last was one sec

3/5 Olivia can do Malva with a bit of adjusting

[tight oyster]

Ok what teams should i build around them and which order to do the stages in cause of conditions for matches

[silver dirge]

And for flying, blue pidgeot is okay, you have Darach @4/5 that's pretty good

[silver dirge]

I don't think the conditions really matter tbh, the one to look out for is maybe the sync move one.

[tight oyster]

Ok what tean will be most effective with the strikers

Nc red team

Team with N

Team with blue pidgeot

[silver dirge]

Vs Drasna, just slap NC Red on there and maybe put Red/Snorlax on there for Super Effective Next (don't need it, but you'll be doing Normal type for the medal here). And then just fill in the 3rd slot with a unit whose type you're not gonna use across all the stages

[rose ermine]

Game-Use Physical Pairs!
Me-

[tight oyster]

Ok let me make preset teams

[silver dirge]

Vs Siebold, ideally you need a paralysis unit since they all have HP advantage 4. Volkner is good, also sets electric terrain. And then throw on a physical support, falkner would work

Ideally sonia but not at 1/5

Vs Wikstrom you can go Silver, aim for the sync nuke. You can throw in Aaron to buff atk/crit and then just put Blaine for sun. Grid for Super Command and TM right before you sync with silver

vs Malva, grid Olivia for her sync nuke. If you go with just the Inertia nuke then you can go Skyla for those speed buffs, and then any physical support to buff her stats

vs Diantha, aim for Darach nuke, again use one of your physical supports (Hop is a good choice from Legendary adventures)

[tight oyster]

Hi bro this is what i set as preset teams

But what i can see is that in cases with units with multiple elements i still only get 1 peiece

[thin marten]

go and never come back, hawlucha

[tight oyster]

So is it even possible to get all pieces at 1 time?

[silver dirge]

You've got 2 weeks to get 18 types, as long as you're getting like 6-8 today you're fine

Nah not possible for 18 in one go

Okay your teams need some altering though

[tight oyster]

But i cannot reset or repeat the stages?

So how do you do this again after doing it once

Until it reruns months later?

[silver dirge]

The medal has to be unlocked over 2 weeks, it then unlocks master mode. Master mode can be reset an unlimited number of times

[tight oyster]

How will i unlock the medal?

For that you need all pieces right?

[silver dirge]

You need to get all 18 types done over the 2 weeks

Yes

[tight oyster]

So if i cannot do all 18 in one run

I wont have another chance since the stages get blocked

And i wont have the medal

[silver dirge]

With Team 1, Sycamore isn't the best option here, I would say either go with Blue or either go with Darach since one is special, one is physical. Build the team around that and then depending on who you've got choose a special/physical support

[silver dirge]

Yes, it isn't possible to do all 18 in one week. But one CS rotation lasts a month from memory (4 weeks), so you've got lots of time to complete the medal

[tight oyster]

Sorry bro i am not able to understand

[silver dirge]

Okay sorry I'll explain it better

[keen jasper]

Goddamnit, so close to 4k Malva with KriSS, SS Diantha and Lucian

[silver dirge]

The medal contains 18 types, you need to use each type once in your clears to unlock that type in the medal right?

[tight oyster]

Yes

[silver dirge]

At the moment, we've got Kalos Champion Stadium. Kalos CS started today and it will last for 4 weeks, each week the stages will change. Atm we've got an ice weak, electric weak etc, next week it'll be different stages. But, the medal will stay the same for Kalos. So, for example, if you clear hard mode today and say you were able to get 8 types on the medal, those will be "saved" for next week. Next monday (depending on your timezone), the stages will reset and you'll be able to do the new ones. Now it'll be your goal to do the remaining 7 types that you didn't do the first time around, because the ones you already did will already be on the medal.

Hopefully that makes sense

[tight oyster]

Ok got it

So each week i get another chance to run

[silver dirge]

Yep!

[tight oyster]

Ok which teams should i use in my preset

[silver dirge]

After 4 weeks, Kalos Champion stadium will change to (for example, Hoenn Champion Stadium) which has a separate medal. Hoenn's stadium will also last 4 weeks, and you'll have a chance to do the Hoenn medal. After a while, when it's Kalos' stadium's turn again, you won't need to do the medal again

[silver dirge]

I think it's important you read the team building guide first. I can see you're running a little convoluted units and the wrong type of supports for the wrong units

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[tight oyster]

@silver dirge hey how does this look?

[keen jasper]

Holy fuck, I've done 4k pts. Malva

[mellow linden]

Is this for Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[silver dirge]

Hard

[mellow linden]

Then those teams should be fine, if issues pop up then there’s plenty of room to switch things up without sacrificing too much type medal progress

As long as everyone is leveled to 120 or higher, obviously

[silver dirge]

Yeah they gotta level up some of their stuff first, most were in the ~90s

[tight oyster]

Would this work without the sync grids

Lot of units in that ss doesnt have sync grids like the rock ,bug,dark,electric,leaf,psychic ,ground and flying

[mellow linden]

You’ll wanna grid Hop’s MP Refresh tile and probably grid Silver’s Trainer Move Berserker and/or Ramp Up, but otherwise you should be fine

[tight oyster]

The rock team and the electric teams will be fine?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, they’ll be fine without grids for Hard Mode

[tight oyster]

Ok thanks let me try those two first

[mellow linden]

Plan out who you’re facing on round 3 1st since Half-Sync rounds are much harder than any other round parameter

[tight oyster]

Yeah i will do it with nc red

And last one with sulver

Or i can even switch them

This on hop is ok right or need to regrid

[mellow linden]

As long as you’ve got round 3 planned out you should be fine

[silver dirge]

that looks good

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that Hop grid is fine. Maybe re-grid for Adrenaline if he’s EX

[drifting sleet]

Recc for r3?

[tight oyster]

No i prob have only 1 ex unit

[drifting sleet]

Is it even possible to presync r3?

[mellow linden]

Anyone you’re confident in taking on for round 3. Pre-Syncing is possible, but needs a very strong team to do so

[drifting sleet]

Guess I'll try drasna for r3

And believe in the ncred carry

[keen jasper]

Is it a mistake to fight Drasna on R4?

[drifting sleet]

Who is a better elec attacker, tapu hau or nyvolk?

[tight oyster]

Hi guys for the fire enemy

Will sulver be better in this team or moltres or red charizard

[mellow linden]

1. Make sure you properly set up Tactics

2. NC Leaf is the easiest to use, but it won’t matter that much whether you use her or Silver

[low linden]

Game is not tripping so hard skyla became cynthia

[paper summit]

that's nothing new, it happened because it just doesn't like showing repeat characters in that screen

[low linden]

Actually makes no sense

[low linden]

I need u to explain this from dec 2022 then

Game really just tripping

[paper summit]

I mean, that was a thing only for a week...

they changed it, that's it

[versed meteor]

Sometimes it renders properly sometimes it doesn't, once had an eggmon i used get replaced

[low linden]

Dena been slacking lately I guess

[versed meteor]

If you are brute forcing malva with olivia do you do pre sync or post sync param

[cold kestrel]

Are these main attackers good enough for just the normal hard stadium?

[zealous karma]

I used nearly the same units they should be fine

[mellow linden]

What move levels are Olivia and Elesa?

[zealous karma]

Mine were ex but idt they made a diff cause it’s MM

[cold kestrel]

Both 2/5

[mellow linden]

Get Inertia grid tiles on both then and you should be good as long as you follow the teambuilding 101 guidelines

[cold kestrel]

Alright

Those were the two I were worried about anyways. My other three are good

Especially blue being 3/5

[versed meteor]

If you are brute forcing malva with olivia do you do pre sync or post sync param

[proud axle]

Ice, Electric, Fire, and Rock. Red, Blue, Leaf, and Paulo. I guess the only surprising thing here is that they got the entire Elite Four to match the big banners at once.

[proud axle]

Last time I did it with presync.
This time I might switch to Lodge Steven shenanigans just for variety's sake...

[manic kiln]

brute forcing most of the time is presync

also depends on your team

[proud axle]

I think I needed Olivia to nuke twice (i.e. no EX Support sync, just gave both syncs to Olivia)

[zealous karma]

Olivia without ex can take care of sides but may need lucky flinches

I used nearly the same units so e

[junior crown]

And we still have SS Ethan running, even if the stage is more physical focused, shouldn't be a problem for him

[zealous karma]

Blue clears it fine and if he’s 3/5 prolly does it way better than 1:5 Ethan does

[versed meteor]

I guess i finally have a reason to ex blue

[junior crown]

You don't need to if you don't want

[proud axle]

It worked. Ingo(EX) Olivia LodgeSteven. Olivia didn't sync, she just pummeled the sides with Stone Edge. When gridded for sync nuking, Steven managed to OHKO Malva with the second sync. Lodge Steven is 4star 0/20. That nuke is pretty legit.

I needed to use a mixed-offense parameter set though, since... Liv is phys and Steven is special

[cold kestrel]

Here are the full teams. Replaced elesa with volkner. He’s 3/5

I have one overlapping type but I think that’s fine

[hushed sorrel]

I'd move Drake and aaron around

[mellow linden]

It won’t matter much for Hard Mode, but Elesa is better than Volkner as the only damage-dealer on a team

[zealous karma]

Irida doesnt benefit from his buffs except for the defensive ones and master passive i think its fine if not moved

[cold kestrel]

Got it

[hushed sorrel]

125 is actually hard lol takes a few reset a lot of the time

Ingo can give Oliva storm though so can consider switch ingo and hop around

[cold kestrel]

Alright

Just exchanged this unit. Should I replace it for anyone?

[hushed sorrel]

Any dps that can self buff attack

Your team looks good

[molten nebula]

can anyone recommend me a team for csmm koga I HATE HIM AND HIS STUPID CRIT SHIELD 😭😭

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t you have a sun setter??

I also feel like SS May and Hilda gauge might be bad

[molten nebula]

then what 😭

[rotund lagoon]

I feel like you should understand what that team gets and does not get.

SS May only raises her Atk by 4 ranks (she also does not give herself Crit, and Blaze Kick does not guarantee it). Hilda has a slow setup from Flame Charge speed then TM raising Atk by the amount of Speed raised. Classic Red gives no help for either of those stats.

Not to mention, there’s no sun setter. Sun boosts Fire moves and it’s accessible through Blaine, or you could do power boosted Silver (assuming he’s not used up)

[molten nebula]

tbh I used red and may just bc I wanted to remove some gauge so hilda could sync for a second time before koga used his shield

[rotund lagoon]

I feel like the proper setup and damage from SS May (or power boosted Silver) will take care of Koga before the shield

[molten nebula]

i'll try with ssmorty + ss may + blaine ig??? idk

[rotund lagoon]

Just SS Morty is fine, you do not need two setters. If you have SS Morty, he can sustain two damage dealers.

Also if you’re showing your roster, please show all of it. You can also use our tracker to make it easier.

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[safe monolith]

I want to replace "can't change zone/weather" (150 points) for my stall run but i don't know what to replace it with

[rotund lagoon]

Why would you want to change that if it’s poison stall?

[safe monolith]

VS NC Red

[hushed sorrel]

Just remove all the damage. Then put in all the defense. Once that's done put in hp

[rotund lagoon]

It’s only you, not the opponent.

[safe monolith]

?

[rotund lagoon]

Hold on.

@safe monolith This shows up when you click the plus button to read further.

[safe monolith]

I understand what the parameter does

i don't want hail to be active

because Red's Blizzard spam is very strong

[rotund lagoon]

Let me show something.

[safe monolith]

[mellow linden]

I think what they’re saying is they intend to have a weather setter on their stall team to replace Hail so Red won’t be as much of a jerk

[safe monolith]

yes

[mellow linden]

If your team can handle starting at half HP you can replace the no weather/terrain/zone changes parameter and a 50-point one with that one

[safe monolith]

i think i found a good mix for 150 points, but i'll try that next !

[rotund lagoon]

That….was not clear to me.

[safe monolith]

that's alright

Kid named Restoring Strikes 2:

[cold kestrel]

Elesa isn’t doing much. It might be because of the team but I’m not doing enough damage to defeat the pokemon

This is the farthest I’ve gotten

[zealous karma]

how are hop and red dying

thats very difficult for either of them to do

[mellow linden]

You have no Speed buffer, so you’re not getting her Inertia tile activated

That’s a huge damage loss

[nocturne pawn]

oh right her fleet feet tile isnt until 3/5

[mellow linden]

Even if it was 2/5 you still want a Speed buffer for facing Siebold if running Inertia on the damage-dealer

[grand torrent]

Feel bad for the Kalos League when they have to take on the most powerful team comps ever lol

[cold kestrel]

I’ll see is I have any speed buffers from a type I’m not already using. If I do I’ll probably replace red

[patent torrent]

Any suggestions for diantha

I've tried the Johto trio and blue / Gloria 2 but I don't do enough damage

[cold kestrel]

I got Roxanne. She boost sp atk though

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to use 15 types in 1 week, btw. 9-12 is fine

[cold kestrel]

Alright

[mellow linden]

As long as you get all 18 in 2 weeks it doesn’t matter which ones you do on which week

[cold kestrel]

I could try this too

[mellow linden]

You’ll still want a proper Speed buffer due to how Siebold works this week

[cold kestrel]

Alright

Would Roxanne work? She buffs speed. I have Hop who could buff her attack so I might be fine

And I’ll just swap red to the team with Roxane

[patent torrent]

NVM I had the wrong preset on 🫠

[mellow linden]

If you really want to do 15 types then I guess that can work

Grab Elesa’s Fleet Feet and Inertia tiles from her grid

And I mean it, get those grid tiles if you’re gonna use Elesa

[rain turret]

now we wait for next week

[grand trout]

Has anyone tried to use steven against malva

[mellow linden]

Lodge Steven? I did a Lodge Steven + Bertha + NC Blue team, could probably replace NC Blue with any Sp. Atk. + crit buffer

[grand trout]

How did you manage dps?

I mean I'm confident Steven can nuke malva, it's the sides I'm worried about

[mellow linden]

It’s a weird combination of Sync nuking the center and DoT stalling the sides

[grand trout]

Via sandstorm and stealth rock?

[mellow linden]

And Trap from Sand Tomb. Ancient Power also helps a little with wearing the sides down

[grand trout]

Hmmm

Im tempted to reset just to use steven

[cold kestrel]

Maybe I’ll try volkner

[mellow linden]

Ah, right, I forgot you need to status Siebold

[dark osprey]

You'd need to status the centre before dealing decent damage

[mellow linden]

That’s my bad

[cold kestrel]

Ah alright

[nocturne pawn]

you think this would work for dragon drasna when she comes around

[cold kestrel]

Does the status matter?

[mellow linden]

Just grab Elesa’s Spark Hostile Environment tile for now if you don’t wanna change the team

Then use Spark for her 1st turn or 2 and restart if it doesn’t Paralyze

[zealous karma]

It’ll be fine lel

[cold kestrel]

Might as well get this too right?

[nocturne pawn]

nah

too expensive

[cold kestrel]

Didn’t notice the 120 cost

[mellow linden]

Yeah, no need for now

[nocturne pawn]

well its more so the energy cost

30% to wild charge is kinda eh

[cold kestrel]

Go for sparks before using x attacks?

[mellow linden]

You shouldn’t need to click X Attack at all, Hop is handling the Attack buffs (grid his “Hop to It! MP Refresh” tile if you haven’t already)

[cold kestrel]

Haven’t gridded him yet. I’ll get it right now

[mellow linden]

Just that 1 tile and the cheapest route to it for now

[grand trout]

We're not getting olympia or drasna with the mfs right?

I really wanted to use olympia for psychic next week

[nocturne pawn]

nah they were added when their banners ended

ive seen people get them off the mfs

[grand trout]

YAY

So there's a chance

[cold kestrel]

Alright got it then. I’ll get the potion stuff once I get more orbs and such

[nocturne pawn]

like 0.1%

[grand trout]

Still counts!

If I won't I'll just use lussamine then

[zealous karma]

That’s the same as ramming Spd it’s a bigger boost than you’d think

[nocturne pawn]

its more so that wild charge isnt that great on its own

[cold kestrel]

Okay I’m doing good damage now but I have a new problem which is running out of potions to heal from wild charge recoil

[mellow linden]

Can use Wild Charge less since Elesa's Sync will likely KO the center

So basically use Spark a bit more to save healing

[cold kestrel]

Maybe I’ll do a different battle before this. The physical reduction shield could be making a difference

[nocturne pawn]

if you are maxing crit it shouldnt matter

[echo gale]

does this count for the pasio CS?

[fiery canopy]

ooogh kalos
gotta get dat Medal

[cold kestrel]

Shit just too hard for me ngl

[wide adder]

which f2p phys support is best for N & Zekrom? or is NC Blue better to put in for rebuff and just have N self buff atk?
i dont think i really have much in terms of fullbuff phys supports outside of the f2p ones, since i mostly pulled special supports

[nocturne pawn]

hilbert and nc blue may work

[wide adder]

do i just not use E Terrain then ...?

cause i assumed elec terrain would be a must and thus Volkner for the third slot

[nocturne pawn]

nc blue rebuff is the equivalence of a terrain

assuming hes syncing first

[tired sleet]

I mean, not syncing with N first is wasting his SEUN

N has the potential to clear before your 2nd sync, so I don’t see why you should rely on Blue’s Sync if it’ll end up being slower

[cold kestrel]

Got farther🗣‼️‼️won’t stop til I eventually beat it

[tired sleet]

Are you paralyzing the mid?

[cold kestrel]

Yeah

[wide adder]

its 1/5 N, is he really able to clear that soon?

figured grid didnt look like enough to warrant double candy, especially when he might show up on future selects where i dont want anyone else on it

(strikes the role that most of my favs land in too)

[nocturne pawn]

i was running under the assumption of a 1/5 n which is not great sync

rebuff is 50% more damage taken and support ex is 100% to damage dealt

so that was the logic

[tired sleet]

For most stages most likely, but perhaps not against Siebold
Even at 1/5 his sync should still denial left for an easy quadqueue and opening to 2nd sync
I’d rather save Blue for another stage and use N+Hilbert clone. I typically use TM, Bolt Strike, TM, as the first BS would do 6k and the first sync would do 9k, which is already about half of Siebold’s health gone

[nocturne pawn]

and hilbert to max attack

[old orchid]

Meanwhile me saving his Bolt Strike with SEUN for burst dmg post sync (it did 23k)

[paper summit]

rookie numbers

[grand trout]

This is our 2nd kalos cs right

[wide adder]

is this a bad idea probably (using max knuckle to top off atk)

[nocturne pawn]

yes the last one was back in february

[grand trout]

Does flinching count as a status conditio for the round parameter?

[old orchid]

Imagine having 5/5

[grand trout]

Gakon, it makes me wonder

What's your roster?

[old orchid]

[zealous karma]

I am sure they have both sonia at 5/5 while also having a 3/5 bertha

[old orchid]

||I only have 3/5 Sconia||

[grand steppe]

[drifting sleet]

I feel like Tapu Koko's not doing a significant amt of damage vs siebold - what kind of support does it need?

[nocturne pawn]

check the channel pins for stage mechanics

there is probably something you’re missing

[grand trout]

Prolly HA

[drifting sleet]

U r correct and I m dumb

Mb

[nocturne pawn]

yep no problem

[drifting sleet]

Ez r3 presync kekw

Nc red is so broken

[drifting sleet]

Wew scuffed run

Using AnniN just for noble roar

[cold kestrel]

Got even closer but double surf fucked me

[keen jasper]

Man, never once in my life had I ever used Cerena as a flinch botter, but here I am doing it

[cold kestrel]

Fuck

If only I had one more bar literally a second earlier

[keen jasper]

Are you purely using Hop's Metal Claw?

[cold kestrel]

No

But anyways

I would use behemoth bash when I would get the free next moves

[keen jasper]

That's exactly how you do it anyways

[cold kestrel]

Time for the next battle

And i underestimated it

[frosty axle]

you do know you need a special attacker?

[spark wren]

Hello guys its me once again asking for some help on hard

[swift swan]

Hmmm, i'll see what I can do but just know in advance Kalos is going to be tricky

[spark wren]

For master?

Or even hard

[white gale]

what types have you already used? or are you doing hard for first time (ie 0/15)?

[spark wren]

I didnt touch it this week

Learned from last

[grand trout]

Doesn't she have se x 2

[spark wren]

I believe this one might be better, forgot to add the legendary

[grand trout]

Have you cleared any

[swift swan]

R1 vs Wikstrom: NC Leaf, Aaron, filler
R2 vs Malva: Bertha, Roark (nuke grid), Classic Giovanni
R3 vs Drasna: NC Red, Skyla, filler
R4 vs Siebold: NC Blue, Sophocles (Nuzzle spam), Hau (needs his nuke grid. Candy him if you can)
R5: Hop, Blue, Sabrina

This diantha team is going to be so iffy gosh

[spark wren]

[swift swan]

But there's not much choice

[swift swan]

Eh, both. Kalos is very gimmicky

Can you candy Hau?

[cold kestrel]

Oh, then I’ll just have to find a off type unit. I have no rock special strikes

[spark wren]

Lemme take a look if i have candy

[hushed sorrel]

Is that not hard mode? Or master

[cold kestrel]

Hard mode

[swift swan]

In hard mode i believe you can bruteforce with physical units still

[spark wren]

No 4* candies

[swift swan]

Drake gives Olivia nothing

Hmmmm

Offtyping is your only choice then

[spark wren]

i got 2 BP 4* Selector

Sadly no hau there

[swift swan]

This Drasna team goes to Siebold (fight Siebold R3 still)

So now the Drasna team can be Ghetsis, Sycamore, crit buffer

[swift swan]

Hau is a story unit

Can only be candied

BP Sophocles is good but I wouldn't prioritize him over the BP supports just for a CS stage

[spark wren]

R1 vs Wikstrom: NC Leaf, Aaron, filler
R2 vs Malva: Bertha, Roark (nuke grid), Classic Giovanni
R3 vs Siebold: NC Red, Skyla, filler
R4 vs Drasna: Ghetsis, Sycamore, crit bufferr
R5: Hop, Blue, Sabrina

Something like this?

[keen jasper]

NC Red twice?

[spark wren]

ops

[keen jasper]

And Skyla too

[spark wren]

Fixed it

Filler usually is a Support?

[swift swan]

Not really. Just any random unit to fill in the type medal

[spark wren]

Oh okay

Tyvm WIll raise them

[deft kayak]

Relatively new player and wanted to inquire

I finished Stadium but haven’t filled out the 18 type thing

I finished 12/18 types, will I be able to finish it this week or do I have to wait?

[wide adder]

How hard is it to brute force rock sentry x2?

[wide adder]

Can’t do full medal in one week. Fifteen max pairs and needs 18

[deft kayak]

👍

So it’s a 2 week thing lol

[manic kiln]

Olivia can still presync with the right team so it’s not hard

[hushed sorrel]

In this set up Olivia can start Stone edging turn 2

Hmm but you are 2/5

That's prob the problem you need inertia

O wait you get inertia at 2/5!

Then I think you should he able to do it with a -def 3rd slot over drake

[rose prism]

Which round for which opponent in special stadium?

[silver dirge]

Doesn't really matter apart from r3 which is half sync cycle. Decide your team for that and the others should be good

[keen jasper]

That's regular CS, not the fire CS

[silver dirge]

Oh shoot sorry I didn't read that properly

[old orchid]

You can do anyone in any order. Use the round params to benefit your teams

[rose prism]

So they is no optimal route?

[old orchid]

Yeah, since none of round params doesnt benefit any opponents' stage

[hushed nest]

Been trying to get a 2500pt clear but I keep failing, can someone help? don't know what I'm doing wrong

[swift swan]

post your roster using the tracker

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[hushed nest]

give me a min

[hushed nest]

here

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

added the ex's

[swift swan]

you need to import the image

[swift swan]

follow the instructions here

[hushed nest]

Oh

[swift swan]

so what have you tried so far? what teams have you tried but failed to clear with?

also I need to know if those move levels and potential are accurate....

right click to change move level and potential

[hushed nest]

oh

sec

how do I do that on phone?

there

tried resh n, skyla/lucario cynthia and rosa as of now

[vast dome]

My first time taking on Kalos Stadium

What should I take note of?

[swift swan]

kalos is gimmicky as hell but we have summary of each stage on pins

[vast dome]

Thinking of using 12 types this week and the remaining 6 next week

[swift swan]

3/5 Anni N has a good nuke but his setup is very slow. either you bring someone to help him get mid to -6 attack and -6 sp attack (I usually use Ghetsis), or you bring a support that can fully buff his sp atk and crit while he spends six turns noble roaring

[hushed nest]

dose non ex ghetsis work?

also I'd like to know which parameters to use

tried pre sinc and post sinc setup as of now

[vast dome]

This week is flying, rock, ice, electric, fire.
Next week is ghost, dark, steel, psychic, grass.

That leaves fighting, ground, fairy, water, poison, dragon and bug.

I'd be a fool to bring SS Red to Wikstrom's battle

[wide adder]

yeah, just grid him for double drop noble roar

i use mine for that purpose and dont have expansion either

you can have it set up by turn 3-4

and a 3/5 anni N can full self buff in that time if you take sharp entry

3rd slot either sun setter or tank, i sometimes use gordie in that slot but its a bit overkill to have anything but a tank with those two imo

[swift swan]

3/5 anni N should presync comfortably

[hushed nest]

Got it

thanks

any substitute for ghetsis

[swift swan]

He's probably the fastest already... There's SS N with b noble roar but i would rather use ghetsis tbh

[hushed nest]

I see

[hushed sorrel]

Question about malva, if we Debuff defense then it will be fine right? To take off the the SE2

[hushed nest]

good enough? do I need to rearrange n's grid?

[sharp jasper]

Can you legitmately reduce damage taken to 0 with "Master skill stacking" + Electrorepulsion 3 from Blue Zapdos?

[old orchid]

No

Unless you bring him to early stages with lvl 10 opponents

[sharp jasper]

🤔 already able to reduce damage taken by 60% is stupid enough tho.

[old orchid]

On top of being one of the most bulky supports in the game

[sharp jasper]

Well maybe also making whole team bulky also

[full mesa]

How many turns do CLeaf's Drought Alert 3 extends the sun duration?

[nocturne pawn]

middle of the second sync cycle id imagine

[silver dirge]

30 more seconds, and it's usually 45 seconds I believe

[noble plaza]

I accidentally did ice mono type for Drasna and I'm on hard mode

[dark osprey]

It's fine I guess. Can still have a max of 13 types

[dark osprey]

But could probably last till the second sync if set as the last move in the first sync cycle

[mellow linden]

Can always make up for it with the other fights

[noble plaza]

I used some types that need to be used next week aaa

[mellow linden]

9-12 types on week 1 of type medal is fine

[noble plaza]

I know I'm just a little worried I won't unlock hard mode next week

[mellow linden]

Can always ask for help here next week if you’re worried

Helping with filling the type medal is part of what we do here

[noble plaza]

Ok!

I did Drasna, Siebold, and Malva so far. So far the types I filled were Ice, Electric, Ground, Psychic, Rock, Steel, and Fairy.

I'm a little worried that I already use 2 of the types that the Elite Four will be weak to next week. My go-to Fire type is usually Silver, and he's often paired with a Grass type, but Siebold is weak to grass next week so I'm worried I'll be wasting a slot.

I could use Leon but I might use his Hurricane for Diantha

[mellow linden]

Can just use that 3/5 Blue for Diantha

Frees up Leon for Wikstrom

[noble plaza]

yeah, I'm just hesitant because I have bad experiences with Flying rounds in CS. It's Hard mode though so it shouldn't be too bad.

[mellow linden]

Yeah, worst case scenario grid Ramp Up on Blue if your Sp. Atk. Support options are slim by then

[silent plinth]

If flying is your bane, I recommend EXing Blue if your able. His grid expansion makes him really nice to use now

[noble plaza]

I have a lot of Champion Spirits, I'm just being conservative over my 5* Powers or whatever they're called

[silent plinth]

That’s fair

[noble plaza]

who do I pair with Leon?

[mellow linden]

Whatever you need to be able to get his Sp. Atk. and crit maxed since he’s way too slow at maxing his own offenses

[noble plaza]

fair

[mellow linden]

Since it’s Hard Mode you should be fine without a Sun setter

[silent plinth]

SS Blue is great, Sycamore as well if you have his grid expansion

Kiawe as well is good

[noble plaza]

I do not have Sycamore's grid expansion unfortunately

[silent plinth]

He should still work, just buffing crit may not be the easiest in the world

[noble plaza]

i'll use SS Blue because I didn't fill Water yet

[vast dome]

So I have this, wish me luck

Still Pallet Trio but ramshackle

[silent plinth]

Do you not have the materials to level up leaf more?

[keen jasper]

Yeah, level 111 and yet not even a level 130 CLeaf

[mellow linden]

Level 120 is doable, surely

[noble plaza]

Leon, SS Blue, and Ciovanni made quick work of Wikstrom.

Which R5 param for Diantha?

[mellow linden]

Anything except Half-Sync should be fine

[noble plaza]

[mellow linden]

Half-Sync is the only round 1-4 parameter that would make a significant change (for the more difficult in the case of Half-Sync)

[vast dome]

I do

And what mext? EX her right away? Go for a dupe?

[keen jasper]

We aren't saying any of that

[mellow linden]

Where the heck did you get that idea?

Level 120 is basically free nowadays and is generally the minimum level for clearing all content, is all

There is zero equivalence between regular levels and going for dupes

[vast dome]

She's almost at Level 120

[mellow linden]

94 is a good bit less than “almost 120”

[vast dome]

I was asking what's best for a 1/5 CLeaf

Better.

[mellow linden]

Level 120+, so yeah, you’re at the benchmark

[vast dome]

She's fine at 1/5 and without EX, I reckon

[mellow linden]

Yeah, level 120 is all she really needs

[noble plaza]

They're just telling you that it's best to get your pairs at at least level 120, they're not saying to get her to the next move level or EX her.

[silent plinth]

^^

The difference between level 94 and level 120 is very significant, and requires little effort compared to 140 -> 150

[tribal saddle]

So I did another full fire type 12.5k run after I got Tina, this time I burn stalled 4 stages, all besides Glacia. The last team doesn't look like a stall team but it actually is, there are only so many trappers and weather setters in the fire type that I can use lol. This run was really fun especially Koga and Grimsley are so vulnerable to burn stalling lmao

[tribal agate]

how is EX Tina in practice?

[tribal saddle]

She's pretty squishy for support standard so the EX really helps her tanking

Doesn't matter much for this particular clear as this was pretty easy

[long thicket]

I don't recall how good I did on elite Kalos before.

I'm gonna attempts 12500 and see.

[mellow linden]

If you managed 2k per stage before you should be able to manage 2.5k per stage now just fine

[long thicket]

I'm not too fearful.
Glacia and Drake are the ones that scare me most.

Heck, even the infamous Sinnoh went well at 10k last run, in comparison.

Well Wikstrom's sync got everyone down.
Guess Victini/Cinderace duo won't cut it, at least in the current settings.

[mellow linden]

They should definitely be able to obliterate Wikstrom before he Syncs

[full mesa]

So around one more cycle?

[mellow linden]

Likely a parameter issue

[full mesa]

Sinnoh is baby mode against Kalos and Hoeen.

[long thicket]

Round 1, dunno if that affects anything.

Yeah, I'm very weird with Fire.

I have more than enough options, but I don't manage to get the best of them.

[dark osprey]

Definitely not one more cycle since Maxie having drought alert 5 extends for around one extra cycle but the thing is that he has sun on entry and fades just before the second sync

[mellow linden]

SS Hilda and Gloria + Cinderace are like, the top 2 Fire damage-dealers

[mellow linden]

Not with the damage-dealers you’re using

[manic mica]

People who beat the CS with N

What paras?

[swift swan]

Which N, which CS

[mellow linden]

Shouldn’t need any special parameters, can just use the examples in the pins (adjusted as necessary for your team) and run Sonia (if 3/5+) + Volkner teammates

[tribal agate]

make sure you paralyze the stage

[swift swan]

N has piercing blows anyway

[tribal agate]

oh yeah right

[mellow linden]

N doesn’t worry about the Healthy Advantage

[tribal agate]

[mellow linden]

But Volkner + Sonia can cover the Paralysis needs anyways

[manic mica]

The on type parameters?

With more hp?

The stage has aoe so I don't want that to hit me

[mellow linden]

Up to you as to which on-type parameters you run (pre-Sync means you have to KO before the opponent Syncs, post-Sync means you don’t care whether or not the opponent Syncs)

Shouldn’t need to worry much (if at all) about AoE, especially since Volkner can potentially flinch the opponents

[manic mica]

Is Strenght 6 that unimportant?

[mellow linden]

Wdym

[manic mica]

I see strenght 6 on everything

[mellow linden]

Because it’s a lot of points for a comparatively low difficulty increase

Strength is a flat stat increase instead of a % increase like the Attack/Sp. Atk., Defense/Sp. Def., and HP parameters

[manic mica]

Who's supposed to sync btw?

Sonia?

[mellow linden]

Is Sonia EX?

[tribal agate]

if she's EX yeah

[manic mica]

N and Sonia are EX

But N is 1/5

[tribal agate]

definitely Sonia

[mellow linden]

Then Sonia 1st Sync and N 2nd Sync onwards

[swift swan]

Should be fine

[onyx ice]

Strength is basically a bulk + offense % increase but is additive with other strength

[manic mica]

And somehow N dealt like nothing with Sync

And now I gotta redo and wait for Sonia to give me luck

Ofc Volkner stops the flinching right as I need it against Surf

[onyx ice]

They where paralyzed?

[tribal agate]

N doesn't care

[swift swan]

At 1/5 his sync isn't much. You rely on his DPS, which should be more than enough ontype

[tribal agate]

is Sonia 3/5?

[manic mica]

Yeah

[tribal agate]

hmm