Champion Stadium

[normal falcon]

:((((

on one hand: this sucks

on the other: i do not think the rats wouldve won this either

[compact yoke]

What stage u tryna do? And with what pairs?

[normal falcon]

this is actually insane game design

[normal falcon]

red with sserika leon and classic gio ex

not a parameter issue because i got

this close

[compact yoke]

Yeah u were close lmao. What pairs u got? Or do those two provide best synergy

[normal falcon]

those two do best from what i know at least

gio raises leons crit and sp atk in a timely manner

erika sets sun and frankly thats all she needs to do

she also raises speed with helps with gauge

[compact yoke]

Is she ur only sun setter

Wonder if u have one that can also set traps or stuff idk

[normal falcon]

no but shes my best

i have blaine

thats all i have access to rn

her and blaine

i used morty against glscia

[compact yoke]

Blaine might be interesting, possible bonus damage when person is trapped

[normal falcon]

i could try it but frankly im not sure if the bonus damage wpild add up to anything that i couldnt get with enough brute force

[compact yoke]

Yeah that’s true

I’m not sure either

[swift swan]

try blaine for theme skill synergy

do you have Interference Immunity active? he won't get the trap damage if then

like, you can always turn it off so Gio has a chance to flinch

but his flinch chance is low

[normal falcon]

oh i could

honest to god gio flinching could make this rng hell hole

STILL FUCKIN HELL BUT

BETTER SOMETIMES?

but idk what id turn on in its place

i guess tech damage up x3 cuz erika aint living shit anyways

which gio move has flinch chance again?

[manic kiln]

i still think erika is dead weight in this team, she only gives sun, at least other sun setters do some more. no gordie?

[normal falcon]

...leon

didnt have crit strike 2

im a moron

lets fuck him up chat

[swift swan]

Bite

only 30% chance though

there are better flinchers which also buffs Leon, like Falkner,but he's slower I think

in terms of buffing

[normal falcon]

yeah i need speed for the buffing

GOOD NEWS THO

GIO FLINCH ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING

IT CUT OFF REDS BLIZZARD

IT DIDNT WIN ME THE MATCH BUT I KILLED MID AGAIN

anyway ive learned what erika does for my team

sync accel (i think so anyway)

its a super negligible amount

but

its

[manic kiln]

yes 30% under sun

[normal falcon]

enough

when im gonna be in sun the entire match

one or two accels could give me sync at the right time

and thatd do it

[verbal karma]

So someone suggested me to go with R1 Glacia...sadly, I can't seem to do it with THIS team...

[mellow linden]

What purpose does Leaf serve here

[verbal karma]

Irida can beat the middle pre-sync, but she can't survive the Blizzard spam from the sides

[verbal karma]

Healing and MG management

[mellow linden]

There are more ways to do that than just Leaf

[manic kiln]

also you have way stronger fire dps

use them for glacia and red

[verbal karma]

You mean Lodge Irida ain't strong?

[manic kiln]

double dps is also an option to kill sides faster

[mellow linden]

She’s good, but there are stronger options that you may want to consider for Glacia since she’s definitely the strongest stage besides Red

[manic kiln]

you said you have 5 strike ex, use them

and a 2nd dps

[mellow linden]

Especially since Glacia puts huge pressure on your team’s survivability while Lodge Irida has a recoil move

[verbal karma]

Hmm...well, I want to save SS Hilda for R3, SS May for R2 and Silver for R5...

[normal falcon]

ive gotten the closest so far

mid and right down

[mellow linden]

You are not required to use those Sync Pairs on those rounds

[normal falcon]

the only reason i lost is because for whatever reason LEFT moved instead of right

if right moved. honest to god. gg

[verbal karma]

Well, yeah, but I want to use them for those rounds

[mellow linden]

But whatever, you can switch stage order anyways

[verbal karma]

Hmmmmm...replace Irida with Ethan or SS Red?

[mellow linden]

SS Red is leagues stronger than Ethan

[verbal karma]

SS Red then, got it

[thin marten]

so... is it viable if i use hilda (both) silver ss red and anni n as my dps s for fire cs on master mode?

I'd use SS May but she's not EX d nor 3/5

[mellow linden]

SS May can work fine even at 1/5 non-EX, but the 5 damage-dealers you listed should work just fine

[thin marten]

now i need to think teams

[manic kiln]

N for Red, Red/Silver for Glacia. The other 3 build 3 team around May/Hilda/Red/Silver

[thin marten]

oh so i was right with my train of thought by using anni N vs Red

thx

[swift swan]

3/5 Anni N to nuke Red's ass

[normal falcon]

its

done.

[swift swan]

👏

well done

take a rest, soldier 🫡

[manic kiln]

yes

[normal falcon]

i will for sure

#1145728460388585473

i added this HoF to my thread

moral of the story: if youre from the first 3 generations... i'm stealing something outta your house!

[verbal karma]

...the new team isn't working against R1 Glacia either 😦

Now I am using Leaf/SS Red/Blaine

and now I am somehow doing worse than before

[junior crown]

Have you tried to use the same team you used last time we had this Glacia?

[verbal karma]

...maybe I should have sticked with Lodge Irida instead...

[junior crown]

Last time we had Hoenn we had Fire Glacia twice iirc

[verbal karma]

I...sadly don't remember the team I used there

[swift swan]

Replace Leaf with a faster buffer for Red

Red is gonna spend too many turns buffing his stuff

[junior crown]

No Stage Clear posts?

That helps on those cases

[verbal karma]

Nope...

[mellow linden]

You need a proper Support for SS Red

If he’s 2/5 or more an Attack + crit Support, if he’s 1/5 a crit Support

At minimum

[lone spruce]

That feeling when you’re at the last battle in cs and haven’t used a single one of your good supports

[verbal karma]

...Attack? Don't you mean Sp. Atk?

[mellow linden]

No, SS Red handles his own Sp. Atk. buffs. If he's 2/5 he wants an Attack + crit Support for Haymaker

His Sync is special, but at 2/5+ he has Haymaker

[manic kiln]

or yeah haymaker, sync still special, mb

they probably give him brainpower for the 3/5 expanded grids

[keen jasper]

Just make sure to buff SS Red's defensive buffs

[noble plaza]

how come buffing special defense for glacia seems to do nothing?

[dark osprey]

She hits real hard

Honestly, Just give her what she despises. A yawn inducing battle

[noble plaza]

Augh, I'm trying to use Silver against her but I need a sun setter too, and I don't really know what support to use because I need to buff Silver but I also need a way to survive

[barren trail]

is there a sample of what a poison stall team looks like?

[dark osprey]

As in sleep cheese if needed

[noble plaza]

Lucy+Janine are my go-to poison stallers, plus a support

[barren trail]

Janine with crobat?

[noble plaza]

Ariados

but I think crobat should work too

[dark osprey]

A bad poisoner, a defensive support and a offensive debuffer in general

But there's quite a few slight variations to it

[noble plaza]

oh yeah ariados acts as the offensive debuffer

[lone spruce]

Basically Janine ariados, dawn and koga

[noble plaza]

Lucy poisons and traps, and Ariados spams venom drench

but the other teams people mention probably work, this is just my personal go-to

[keen jasper]

You can technically use both Janine variants

[swift swan]

If your Silver is powerboosted, he sweeps the stage first sync

[noble plaza]

probably! I haven't really use Janine with Crobat because I haven't invested in her that much

[swift swan]

Get his nuke grid, slap Hilbert and a cheap sun setter, profit

[noble plaza]

oh he is, the problem is surviving that long 💀

[barren trail]

thanks! however which are the other team mates to complement them?

particularly trying to defeat will

[noble plaza]

I've used Skyla before

[swift swan]

#1097597679015567420 dropping this here for poison stall ideas

[normal falcon]

my ol reliable is janine, koga and crobat, and mistyduck

except trade koga out for ssleaf if you have her

[noble plaza]

wait uh for Will

[swift swan]

Reset until glacia doesn't use blizzard turn 1

[noble plaza]

I used Xerneas for my poison stall vs Will

you dont need EX, mine isn't

[noble plaza]

which Hilbert grid? aggravation?

[swift swan]

Full tank

[noble plaza]

thank you

[versed meteor]

-6 accuracy, proceeds to not miss any move gotta love this games stupid calculation

[keen jasper]

RNG in a nutshell

Enemies with -6 accuracy and you have +6 evasion: All hits
You have +6 accuracy and enemies have -6 evasion: All miss

[swift swan]

-6 accuracy but the opponents have mitigation

[teal pawn]

So damn close

[tame barn]

lusamine is basically my only really good bug pair but wtf why does she die from first sync in EVERY SINGLE MODE

have to do off type stadium because she just dies

5/5 grid full and everything

[junior crown]

she has really bad def

[tame barn]

even with full buff def

):

[junior crown]

she is the real "glass cannon"

[tame barn]

she attacks like 3 times before she dies lmao

[junior crown]

you should be able to pre sync with her...

[tame barn]

more like a glass pebble shooter

[thin marten]

im done with the cs

[swift swan]

No burgh?

[tame barn]

how does she pre sync

[swift swan]

Bugsy and noland are serviceable too

[thin marten]

using burgh is sad

[swift swan]

By not getting hit

[tame barn]

low level for sure

[swift swan]

Pray no AOEs or dodge them

[tame barn]

its always sync that kills her

[swift swan]

You don't let her get synced

Kill before that

[tame barn]

i use aaron and lusamine, with falkner for dmg

feel like no dmg comes out

enough to kill before sync

[swift swan]

I don't think both aaron and falkner are necessary

Lusamine is fast enough to allow dual striking with another bug dmg dealer

[tame barn]

i have: lusamine, aaron, alder, viola, burgh, guzma, and noland for bug pairs

[junior crown]

why not use alder?

[tame barn]

i feel like he does less than lusamine lmao

he was my first try pair

[normal falcon]

is this for karen?

[tame barn]

am i just missing something? he's fully upgraded and geared

ya

karen

[normal falcon]

use both

lusamine AND alder

[tame barn]

i did at first

[normal falcon]

its how i beat her

[tame barn]

i threw my head at a WALL

maybe i shouldn't be doing 1500 points for it

idk

[junior crown]

what was your 3rd pair?

[tame barn]

aaron

ex aaron

[swift swan]

What are your params

Lusamine and Alder beat 2.5k no problem

[tame barn]

just normal 1500 clear

the pinned one

[swift swan]

Do you triplequeue properly?

[tame barn]

yeah, i think so

and when i sync i bash the button so i get it in

after

[swift swan]

And you pick physical damage reduction instead of special, yes?

[tame barn]

i think both are chosen

doesn't the guide include both 50 cost ones?

[swift swan]

Yes, those are fine

But below that there are physical and special damage reduction which cost 100 pts each

[tame barn]

Oh okay, yeah its set to physical reduction

[swift swan]

And you should pick one or the other since it reduces damage by 80%, can't be ignored by crit

[tame barn]

good to know, thanks

[swift swan]

Yknow what, lucky you, I used Lusamine/Alder core this week too and I happened to record it https://youtu.be/0cGOKHEn1cg?si=4-puuk-exB3Dk6lp

[tame barn]

wait lmao

[swift swan]

EX shouldn't be necessary

[tame barn]

that's literally the 3 i use

i only changed to aaron because def boost

[swift swan]

And you can remove the points as needed

[junior crown]

CS1 Lusa, what has she done wrong to not have CS2?

[swift swan]

I was broke on back then so i used the silver ones

[normal falcon]

WAIT WAS THAT THE ONE YOU RECORDED FOR ME OR IS THIS A COINCIDENCE

[swift swan]

And i don't feel like she needs an upgrade atm

[swift swan]

Oh was it you? I don't quite remember

[normal falcon]

i was struggling with karen and i remember someone showing me a Lusamine / Alder / Falkner team

[verbal karma]

...I completely forgot about Haymaker

[swift swan]

Lol, must've been me then

[normal falcon]

gosh

thanks for all the help this week then LOL

[swift swan]

No problem! The amazing people here helped me a lot when I was new so I'm just paying it forward

[tame barn]

trying to copy what you do here, same pairs and even less points in my run, and still swellow dies so fast and none of his flinches get off. just bad rng at this point huh?

[swift swan]

The flinches helped because falkner is frail. Changing to aaron is fine too

Other than that yeah, just bad RNG

[tame barn]

falkner gets flinched himself

lmao

every time

[verbal karma]

...nope, even with my new new team, I can't beat R1 Glacia

it is ENTIRELY because everyone is taking too much damage too quickly

[swift swan]

And what is that new team

[verbal karma]

Sonia/SS Red/Blaine

[tame barn]

Every time damn it lmao

even flinching him, still killed me at sync

[swift swan]

Even with the hail removed?

Tbf glacia mostly used special attacks

[drifting sleet]

Do I save NCLeaf for red

[tame barn]

im just gonna fall back on my red red and red combo

lmao

[swift swan]

Hmmm how was the gauge? You're clicking alder's dire hit+ when falkner can max crit

[swift swan]

She's good against him, yeah

[tame barn]

i was trying to just add for sync at that point

[swift swan]

Ah i see

[tame barn]

but i didnt realize it was maxed with faulkner

so thats wasting time, i see

[swift swan]

If you have the gauge, do click hyper beam with alder at least

Let falkner do the buffing

[teal pawn]

Imagine surviving through all offense buffs

[swift swan]

Poetic

[teal pawn]

And yes my team did survive sync

[silver dirge]

I just brought some spdef buffs and it works great for me. Don't run any atk ^ params

[tame barn]

yeah, tried a few more itmes this way. doesn't seem to be working out for me at all, cant get a second sync off before their first

[silver dirge]

Do you have SS Brendan by any chance?

[tame barn]

yeah

latios right?

[silver dirge]

And your Alder is gridded?

[tame barn]

yeah

not ex tho

[silver dirge]

Don't need EX

I ran SS brendan, Alder and C!Iris

Was a breeze

[tame barn]

any specific grid?

[silver dirge]

If you don't have C!Iris can replace with Karen, it's just there for SpAtk debuffs

You want overpower on Alder

[tame barn]

i only have 1/5 for brendan

[silver dirge]

Should be okay

Can max your stats and just debuff their sp def

[tame barn]

who is chris?

[silver dirge]

Champion Iris haha

[tame barn]

oh lmao]

i only have iris and nag

[silver dirge]

You can do Karen/Houndoom

If you can, run the extra Special Atk debuff on snarl on her grid

If not, still should be doable

[tame barn]

i have her fully gridded that way already

cool imma try

[silver dirge]

you sohuld be good then

[tame barn]

gonna level her up and max her stuff first too

shes been at 135 for forever

[silver dirge]

she's not doing any damage in this case so you don't really need to. But if you've got spare resources then go for it

[tame barn]

gotcha, so only alder is dmg

everyone else buffs and debuffs

[silver dirge]

yea I can do a quick recording to show you how I do it. I'll ungrid my latios

[verbal karma]

both Blizzard AND Icy Wind hit really hard...even without Hail

and I just don't know why

[silver dirge]

oh hold on is your ss brendan EX'd?

shouldn't matter actually

[verbal karma]

oh my god, even a Draining Kiss removes, like, 1/4 of Sonia's health 😦

[silver dirge]

run a specially defensive tank with spdef buffs

glacia is special

[devout sluice]

Even poison stalling it becomes a problem. Maybe I used a unit to buff evasion

[verbal karma]

...okay, no, picking Sonia as the Atk/Crit buffer was a bad idea

[teal pawn]

Why does red brave bird do insane dmg he took out 90% of xerneas hp

[verbal karma]

her passive makes quadqueing a literal impossibility

and SS Red's Propulsion is too unreliable

[devout sluice]

Have you tried copying the replay clears?

[tame barn]

lost hard each time lmao

[silver dirge]

gimmi a sec I'll show ya. You don't need EX on SS brendan or Alder

[verbal karma]

couldn't find any replay team I could actually replicate

[devout sluice]

Oof

[junior crown]

My poison stall team, I used Liza Viola and Koga on her R1

mine are all 5*, but 4 should be doable

maybe check others #1010274591601598555 for F2P as well

[silver dirge]

any recommendations on compressing videos? I recorded something to send here and it's too big 😔

[swift swan]

Without nitro the limit is too small, i'd rather upload it to youtube or streamable

[swift swan]

They do, they just naturally do. Nothing much you can do other than reset if she uses it. I'm sorry but Glacia is just like that

Sonia doesn't buff special defense so it will hurt, but the idea is for her to survive long enough until red syncs

[silver dirge]

@tame barn here ya go

[swift swan]

If her passives prevent quadqueue i'd change her to someone else then, like maybe Hop (who gets adrenaline on grid)

[silver dirge]

I synced with Karen here only because I'm assuming you don't have Alder or Brendan EX'd. Obviously you wouldn't do that, with an EX support it'd be even easier

[tame barn]

all my ex supports are like, everyone else lmao

brendan is a new additon

[silver dirge]

Yeah you don't need to, I wasted my sync completely so you can sync with Alder and you should be all good

[tame barn]

ill try, but i dont have alder over 3

so just 3/5

cant do furious brain

[silver dirge]

Let me ungrid and see what happens. What EX support do you have?

[silver dirge]

yokay

[silver dirge]

what's SS Blue's move level? So I can use just what you have access to

[tame barn]

pretty sure just 1

[silver dirge]

coming through

[elder needle]

Ty for the bug advice chat Noland swept the dark round

[silver dirge]

@tame barn here. Missed a couple of hyper beams in there

[versed meteor]

Pal mallow c calem c bede and ss acerola damn your support is stacked

Ss mina, ss morty too

[patent torrent]

Does the special stadium happen in here too

[civic trellis]

Yes

[patent torrent]

I'll have to update my character sheet with my new pairs to get help on this but I didn't see anything in the pins so I was confused

[verbal karma]

damn

even with fully maxed Attack, Special Attack, Crit AND Sun, SS Red is unable to pre-sync the middle

and he obviously can't survive the opponent's sync attack

hell, he can barely survive the REGULAR attacks

so yeah, Post-Sync won't be very helpful either

[patent torrent]

You could try Dana

Delighted and excited heals and applies damage guard

[verbal karma]

sadly, I would lose out on a Atk/Crit buffer then

[grand steppe]

There isn't anyone who is particularly easier or more difficult based on the round parameters.
Only one which may be issue is Round 1 against Koga or Glacia.

[lone spruce]

Y’all think this is enough lmao

This is what happens when you save your good pairs too much

[nocturne pawn]

yeah ok point is that its supremely overkill and easy

[lone spruce]

Cmon I was doing the math to convert to the Fat man (0.6)

But thanks for enlightening me turns out I had them backwards

[zinc island]

This champion stadium was considerably easier compared to the last

Managed to beat red using SS Morty, SS hilbert and blunine.

[onyx ice]

Finally I can easily set Anni N 1st nuke

[austere quest]

Why did Red pretty much OHKO my Tank with Brave Bird?

Also the accuracy buff is annoying

Very good Stadium, for at least Red I guess

[austere quest]

Lol

Is this how to make things challenging?

[junior crown]

• number of passives and the passives itself

[teal pawn]

Gonna be awhile before I can figure how to beat red, pretty sure Gloria cinderace can do it but still not sure where am I lacking

[full mesa]

I had to off type 2 stages with Zeus' rodents since I have only 3 fire strikers. It's not that hard.

[austere quest]

I only Ontyped once and it was Glacia

[junior crown]

I poison stalled 4 and burn stalled one

[molten nebula]

who

I would like to do that too
with emma perhaps

[junior crown]

I used F2P pairs (with one event and one master BP) - #1097597679015567420 message

but can do it with Emma for sure

[teal pawn]

Wish I could poison stall nc red but I think my main supports with potions are out

[nocturne pawn]

do you have bp morty or psyduck available

[teal pawn]

BP morty already used but I do have misty psyduck

[nocturne pawn]

try using her

and grid for tm mpr potion mpr and synchro healing

[teal pawn]

Alright I ll try it out

[molten nebula]

who should I pair emma with to do a poison stall (also idk if I should do it on molayne,grimsley or koga)

[nocturne pawn]

emma can off type quite easily with good support

i would not use her for stalling

[molten nebula]

for a 2.5k csmm?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[molten nebula]

damn

I got these

which ones would go well with her?

[nocturne pawn]

redlax is good imo

if you grid ss blue for the fierce and grand entry nodes she can be fully set up in like 2 turns

[verbal karma]

damn, even with Hilbert/SS Red/Blaine, I am STILL unable to beat R1 Glacia...

[old orchid]

Do you plan to use Fall Caitlin elsewhere? Because Emma doesnt need much carrying like SS Blue

Oh is this offtype?

If yes, do Emma Sonia Lucy, Lucy is there to inflict Poison so Emma dont have to. If you can EX Sonia, Emma can clear more easily

[molten nebula]

could that be able to go agaisnt molayne? I already got other plans for koga and grimsley

[devout sluice]

Can you show us your parameters?

[old orchid]

Molayne is very bulky, and 1/5 Emma offtype performance isnt good. I recommend using another strong dmg dealer than can do offtype better

[nocturne pawn]

why is hilda fucking unable to crit the sides

i have never had a problem with striker ex until now but its so fucking irritating

[rotund lagoon]

Bad RNG

[nocturne pawn]

its happened like 10 times in a row

and the one time she did crit sides she didnt crit mid

[rotund lagoon]

YIKES

[nocturne pawn]

the worst part is that i know its possible its just that rng refuses to work with me

[molten nebula]

oh damn

[nocturne pawn]

and she crit no one this time

[barren trail]

Any good f2p combos to defeat Karen in master mode?

[zealous karma]

I am glad you asked,
Bugsy (Nuke Grid) + Noland (Damage focused grid) + Atk/Crit support, this warrants an easy win for most bug stages not including Bug Siebold (has sentry entry x2)
and a newer option would be
Burgh + Spatk/Crit support + Lucian/SSEirika depending on your grid for burgh

[toxic cobalt]

I am apparently entirely unable to quadqueue against Grimsley

I’ve missed it about 10 times

[zealous karma]

I was able to quad queue against him myself

[barren trail]

Bugsy meaning beedrill?

[zealous karma]

Correct

[toxic cobalt]

Burn stalled him

[nocturne pawn]

how do i get articuno to not instantly kill me?

i might be going too offensive here honestly

ok tldr you are forced to disable hail

god why is aaron weak to ice

[old orchid]

:AaronL:

[nocturne pawn]

ok im trying ss erika ss diantha and sonia

got close but i targeted the wrong side with ss erika and died

and last run got slapped with 1k blizzard on ss diantha

wheee

[zealous karma]

How small is your fire roster

[nocturne pawn]

and i just saw triple axel crit twice on sonia

[nocturne pawn]

well koga was being rude so i had to use bluecanine and anni n

and then i just ended up exhausting all other fire dps from there

[zealous karma]

Against koga my sync didn’t crit 2 targets with silver and than I saw vigilance prock 3 times on skyla

Oh he also got poison off

[noble plaza]

Should I use Blue+Arcanine or Ethan for Molayne?

[nocturne pawn]

have you ever seen hilda not crit sides 10 times in a row

[zealous karma]

No ;e;

[nocturne pawn]

molayne has higher hp than normal id try to use bluecanine

[zealous karma]

everyone but koga does

[noble plaza]

[nocturne pawn]

THIS MOTHER FUCKER

IS NAT CRITTING

STOP IT

[noble plaza]

AWWW TAIYO

[paper summit]

Koga also has increased HP, it's as high as Molayne's

[zealous karma]

Oh he does I did not know that I thought he had normal hp wth!

[paper summit]

that's like, the one thing every single fire stage has in common, they are all chunky

[zealous karma]

anger

[noble plaza]

chonk

[zealous karma]

Just add fireweek aaron into the mix grrrr

[thin pecan]

What’s the best team to defeat Glacia and on what round

[zealous karma]

The best team would prolly be SSHilda/NCLeaf SSMorty + Ssmay

and that round params aren’t really impactful

[thin pecan]

I do t have may

But I have the other 3

Why is she basically invincible

[nocturne pawn]

you know in hindsight

[thin pecan]

No matter what I use she just takes no damage

[nocturne pawn]

i shouldve used ss red anni raihan chalem on nc red

i went total overkill on glacia

[noble plaza]

Did you check your params?

[zealous karma]

You have tj change the weather but she doesn’t have any damage reducing passives afaik, I just used Lcalem against her lel

[nocturne pawn]

you need to remove hail

[thin pecan]

Yeah

[nocturne pawn]

she has a 1.3x multiplier to defenses if hail is actuve

[cinder summit]

Hail and Hearty

The user's Defense and Sp. Def increase 30% during a hailstorm.

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[zealous karma]

I don’t remember a lot about these stages than oof

[nocturne pawn]

yeah uh

i dont know why i didnt use this for nc red

think i was just traumatized by her the last time she was on

[noble plaza]

Maybe I should save Molayne for another round because it's hard to take advantage of the param and still have an attacker, a sun setter, and someone to buff the striker

[nocturne pawn]

and wanted her to completely die

but it worked

[noble plaza]

Completely fair

[thin pecan]

Got it thank y’all

[noble plaza]

I don't blame you she's a pain

[nocturne pawn]

mfw ss morty and gordie

[noble plaza]

That kinda rhymed

[zealous karma]

He one shot the sides after supp ex what a silly thing

[nocturne pawn]

the rest of my teams were this but i dont think it was as bad as ice

[zealous karma]

This group of CS was just me experimenting with diff teams + bluecanine

[nocturne pawn]

i probably also shouldve used ss acerola on nc red

cuz i didnt check the parameter

[paper summit]

fun, I didn't use Silver this time around, I've grown to dislike him a bit too much

[nocturne pawn]

the most normal looking team is the hilda one

cuz i didnt want to try too much on grimsley

then she decided to fucking suck and fail to deny left by refusing to crit 10 times in a row

[noble plaza]

[zealous karma]

These were fun I can’t wait for psychic

I can’t wait to use Tate

[nocturne pawn]

:joyplush:

[noble plaza]

Would Serena be good to use on Koga? Or do I need to burn him

[nocturne pawn]

eh

i dont think serena is easy to utilize here

everything has lessen sleep 9

[noble plaza]

Gotcha

[zealous karma]

If you know how to sleep chain it’s not to bad

I can’t wait to spam rock tomb SSDiantha !

[placid ravine]

Oh I’m not going to be able to do the Psychic one, I have no psychic types

Only really have Caitlin

[paper summit]

eh, no one said you have to on type everything

and you also have Giovanni

[placid ravine]

He’s not ex lol

[nocturne pawn]

wh

[zealous karma]

Well there’s Caitlin Gio and even Oak I’m sure works

[noble plaza]

Could Bede work as a sun setter out of curiosity? I'm thinking he might be good for Koga or Grimsley?

[nocturne pawn]

she already maxes speed debuff in 1 turn if shes 3/5

[zealous karma]

He’s still very strong without it

[nocturne pawn]

only one use

[zealous karma]

The sides 💔

[nocturne pawn]

does tate even have an ex

[noble plaza]

Oh i forgot about that

[placid ravine]

I could probably offtype two of the stages with Annie Reds

[zealous karma]

Ye if you’re smart when you use it

Tate does not

[nocturne pawn]

if he doesnt then it doesnt matter if sides arent maxed

[paper summit]

he has MAX Flare so yes, but you'd need to time the use well since it's only once

[noble plaza]

I was thinking of pairing him with Ethan but idk if that'd work

[placid ravine]

Yeah this is very depressing

[dark osprey]

Seems workable. If you're worried about the sync countdown can use a sleep support like Elio or Melony

[zealous karma]

It should

[zealous karma]

You have enough for 4 teams if you want to try and use oak
Gio and Caitlin are fine without psychic terrain, and you can use bianca as a sole damage dealer

[noble plaza]

Wait Hilda has Antitoxin??? Okay then she should be used for Koga right?

[placid ravine]

I honestly just need 3 teams since Ice Red and Thunder Red Can prob handle the other 2

[nocturne pawn]

i mean she shouldnt be getting poisoned

[dark osprey]

The striker doesn't get poisoned either ways

[noble plaza]

Oh right

[nocturne pawn]

because all of the poisoning moves are single target

[noble plaza]

Brain fart

[placid ravine]

That’s what I did for this one lol, and I still 12.5k the special stadium

[noble plaza]

Does Grimsley need to be burned? Ethan only has a 10% chance to do so

[nocturne pawn]

no

the only thing i can say is reset if fortuitous somehow rolls evasion

[noble plaza]

Ok

[thin pecan]

Hilbert low key good for this week. What’s the best strategy for red?

[nocturne pawn]

set the sun

so you dont get frozen to death

[thin pecan]

I’m running out of units

[nocturne pawn]

tbh for red just throw the kitchen sink at him

[thin pecan]

Physical or special units

[nocturne pawn]

and use a sun setter

[nocturne pawn]

doesn’t matter

he isn’t biased

[thin pecan]

I don’t know

My kitchen is pretty empty now

[nocturne pawn]

something like this

like an example

obviously i don’t expect you to copy this but its an example of what would be overkill

[thin pecan]

I’ve got Irida

And normal Serena

Really that’s probably the best units I have

Ethan any good?

[nocturne pawn]

uh

considering red has blizzard

no

[thin pecan]

Why is that bad

For him

[nocturne pawn]

eruption

scales off the user’s current hp

[zealous karma]

He has initial damage guard but if you have a way to heal him he works fine enough

[nocturne pawn]

and blizzard chunks very hard

so eruption is basically useless and flamethrower sucks

[zealous karma]

Grrrr

[nocturne pawn]

wdym grr

even brainpower wasnt enough to save him from being mid

also critical eye 1 on x special makes me irrationally angry

[zealous karma]

Why it’s so good for his self sufficiency and way better than if he had gotten on his TM his Pb was pretty solid

[thin pecan]

Ok red just annihilated my team

Are you only allowed to do damage with fire?

[zealous karma]

no

there are no type restrictions

[thin pecan]

Because Erika only did like 500 damage per hit

[zealous karma]

you likely did not her up correctly or have standard damage reduction 8

[nocturne pawn]

you were probably using on type parameters

cuz my ss erika never hit for 500

[thin pecan]

And Pikachu only did 7k with thunderbolt

Which is normally an OHKO on basically every living thing

[paper summit]

you chose your parameters poorly then

[thin pecan]

I’m using the pre sync ones

[nocturne pawn]

you are absolutely taking standard damage reduction 8

there is no chance b thunderbolt does 7k without some major fuck up on parameters

[paper summit]

are you actually paying attention at what you are picking? or just blindly copying?

[thin pecan]

Just following the guide

[paper summit]

it's legit the most common reason people struggle

[thin pecan]

So why is it on the guide

[paper summit]

I'm pretty sure you've been told this many times, you are not supposed to just copy

adjust accordingly to the teams you are using

I doubt it's that hard to do

[thin pecan]

I did?

I’m using special attacks

And paralyze

[nocturne pawn]

do you know what standard damage reduction 8 does

[thin pecan]

No

[nocturne pawn]

go read it

then maybe you’ll understand why you’re struggling

[thin pecan]

I just used Serena and irida and sleep cycle

Can’t kill you if they can’t move

[toxic cobalt]

I feel the pins are clear on this

[trail smelt]

If you don’t deal super effective damage, it reduces your damage by 80%

[lime raven]

Yo what parameters did you guys use on glacia?

[toxic cobalt]

Stall

[grand pond]

i somehow got my 12.5

[lime raven]

Idk what to use my ninetales and red on

[grand pond]

That was unbelievable

[toxic cobalt]

That looks good

Well, might suffer gauge

[lime raven]

hm

yeah im ass at team building

[toxic cobalt]

Any decent supports that help with speed and spdef?

[lime raven]

these are all my ex supports

[toxic cobalt]

Brendan might work! He gives spdef and is somewhat gauge efficient

Keep in mind you may be better off not using an EX support, as that means you wont mega

[swift swan]

3/5 SS Red would rather a physical attack buffer

for Haymaker

[lime raven]

yeah red has haymaker

so sonia?

or hop

Red has rejuvenate too

Nvm imma use kiawe

[river pagoda]

guys

uh

how hard is red

shud i safve my strongest team for him

[calm marsh]

He is very hard

[river pagoda]

checked the passives and koga < molayne < grims so far

but red has

so

many

passives

hostile 9 on his moves is

☠️

[calm marsh]

You will need sun or something deal with status

And mid is bulky

[toxic cobalt]

Red is easy ~~just reset until he doesn't use blizzard ~~

[grand pond]

I threw soooo many teams at red before giving up and resetting and coming back with pikas

not my proudest moment

[river pagoda]

frokm what i can see

save sun for glacia and red

get some rando weather for molayne

or j offtype water or something

rest r ez

[toxic cobalt]

Koga gets a crit shield before his sync

[river pagoda]

i will presync issokie

[toxic cobalt]

You have to pre-presync

[river pagoda]

o tru

[toxic cobalt]

two turns before

[river pagoda]

ss elesa to the rescue

[grand pond]

I think I just galar birded him to death lmao

I hate Koga every time

[toxic cobalt]

If you used Marnie your flinch delays his crit shield

[river pagoda]

hmm wait i was planning to use my weakest for koga

might do tht for grims instead

[calm marsh]

Stall him

[river pagoda]

cuz i gotta presync koga

[calm marsh]

[toxic cobalt]

I reckon the weakest is Moylayne

[river pagoda]

grims or molayne ya

[toxic cobalt]

He's pathetic

[toxic cobalt]

Stall everyone

[river pagoda]

now questiojn is who do i pair summer hilda with for the funny -3 all stats

maybe ill do glacia

just to get some revenge

for all the times i got screwed over when i was a newer player

[grand pond]

glacia is pure torture

oh I'll use lati@s >draining kiss

[river pagoda]

latios/as have draining kiss?

i have both i do not remember this ☠️

[grand pond]

Nah she does

Glacia

[river pagoda]

OH

gothcu

forgor

[grand pond]

Latios is weak to fairy and latias is weak to ice and its AWESOME

I think ss morty has been the single best return on any investment I've made in this game or maybe anything ever

[river pagoda]

Was thinking may for koga, emboar for molayne, silver for grims, n for glacia and SS Hilda for red

Wud y'all change the pairings at all?

[swift swan]

sounds good

[river pagoda]

sick ty

ill send teams later once i set em up

Going glacia -> koga -> molayne -> grims, dunno if red team is too overkill cuz idk how hard he'll be ☠️☠️ do lmk

Advice wud be gr8 ty

[lime raven]

Bruh everyone ive seen has anni N and everyone ex’d

[river pagoda]

faves rule 🥰

[toxic cobalt]

What is the problem with overklling the champion?

[river pagoda]

idk if opther teams might need the units more thts y ;0

think ill be fine for the most part but i j dont know how hard red'll be ☠️

[calm marsh]

HS1 go brrrr

[toxic cobalt]

Keep the roudn parameters in mind, if you want to burn then that's first stage, if youw ant to do big debuffs that's second stage

[river pagoda]

tht is y i have tht order

[lime raven]

Who do i use sst red on

[toxic cobalt]

Looks good then

[river pagoda]

aii ty

[lime raven]

Ss may doesnt have a powerful nuke huh

cause i cant beat koga with her misty and flannery

[toxic cobalt]

Flannery has a powerful nuke!

Is it because of Koga's crit shield

[lime raven]

Yea

[river pagoda]

koga and glacia took the L ez 😌 i love ssmay's hs2 passive stacked w ss elesa's sync countdown mpr

so insane

😩

[lime raven]

How

I still aint beat anyone

[toxic cobalt]

#1011675077764456519

[river pagoda]

ok ya red was overkill

thx for the help yall <3 12.5k done

[toxic cobalt]

Hilda power

[river pagoda]

the funny topsy turvy will never not be hilarious

hilda >>>>

seeing base hilda's mega boosted nuke from acerola and sc steven is also very nice 😩 especially with PB coming soon

literally one shot everyone from full health

[junior crown]

That's it!! Now that we have proof that we have Aurochs supporting full stall we need one full stall clear from everyone

[lime raven]

@toxic cobalt i beat grimsley with your team

[latent eagle]

What order should the rounds be against CH Red?

[old orchid]

Depends on your team

You should pick parameter to benefit the team the most

[verbal karma]

oh, shoot, I went to sleep, so I never saw that message

hold on, gotta need a moment

[latent eagle]

All my fire types and I’m using the pre-sync parameter (changing between checking off physical damage reduction or special damage reduction depending on the team) I don’t have my fire teams set up tho bc i feel like I’d just put all the powerful fire units in one team 😂

[devout sluice]

Let me see if my parameter the same

Seems I’ll reach the image limit.

So I’ll reply you the parameters I used instead

[toxic cobalt]

Building around sSR, HildaVictini, Leon, N, and NC Leaf are likely your best bets.

[trail smelt]

Don’t forget that if you don’t Sun up immediately bad things happen haha

[devout sluice]

Physical damage reduction, Special damage reduction, attack and special attack up 1,defense and special defense 1, Tech takes 3X damage (Can be Striker or Support depending on the team’s) strength 1, Max HP 2, Ally Healing down 5, Physical damage reduction 8 (Or special if using a physical team) Gradual healing, strength 2, strength 3, ally move gauge, standard damage reduction and strength 6. Hopefully this’ll help you. If you have a free pre-set then copy it.

[trail smelt]

(That said I still beat it with no immediate sun setter)

[toxic cobalt]

Just get lucky

[verbal karma]

...wait, Physical AND Special Damage reduction?

[devout sluice]

That’s what I used and it works.

[trail smelt]

Yes the 50 points ones

The ones that get ignored when you Crit

Not the newer stronger variants haha

That one you pick either one as Mirage said

[devout sluice]

Been using those two when 10k was the original run

[trail smelt]

Yep

[verbal karma]

oh wait, I misread, it's the OTHER Physical and Special Damage reduction

whoops

[devout sluice]

Hopefully that’ll solve glacia problem

Including the rest of the CS special

[verbal karma]

okay, yeah, regular Phys & Spec. Dmg Reduction Field, I also always used before, whoops

anyway, thanks, will try that out with my team

at least a modified version of it

where I replaced the Strike x3 Dmg with Interference Immunity

since both use the same amount of points

[devout sluice]

Ya remember you can change the Tech one to striker or support, including physical reduction into special reduction.

[verbal karma]

sadly, your params don't work with my team either 😦

[devout sluice]

Ouch

[verbal karma]

Red just can't kill mid pre-sync...and also can't survive sync

[devout sluice]

Have you tried getting rid the hail also?

[verbal karma]

yes

infact, I am forced to use the second Sunny Day right after Glacia made her Hail before I can sync

which means I cannot queue another attack before her sync

which really stings because I feel like an extra Blast Burn after SS Red's sync might be enough

[devout sluice]

Well that’s the only parameter I used besides the toxic stall one.

[verbal karma]

...I will not survive the opponent's sync anyway, so might as well just replace Strength 1 with Sync Buff 5

[devout sluice]

Maybe that’ll change something.

[verbal karma]

I also decided to replace Interference Immunity with other params as well, maybe that will help

...damn, Blast Burn actually does an awful amount of damage 😦

[devout sluice]

What you using against glacia anyway, including their move levels.

[verbal karma]

Hilbert: 5/5
SS Red: 3/5
Blaine: 5/5

[devout sluice]

Darn, I’m one level above on red.

So I can’t event test the parameters out with it.

I don’t know then, besides I need to go rest so I can’t help anymore. Hopefully someone else comes to help.

[verbal karma]

ah, I see...well, good night then

[latent eagle]

It’s late so my team building skills aren’t the best lmao, I have no idea who to put w/ hilda or leaf

[tired sleet]

A tank and an additional sun setter (eg blaine, techtales, ss erika)

You really want to remove Red’s hail asap (Glacia too)

[latent eagle]

For both of them?

[tired sleet]

Yup

[latent eagle]

What are some tanks? My mind is blanking on who would be considered a tank lol

[old orchid]

can you send your support roster?

[verbal karma]

why is Hilbert unable to flinch queue like Sonia?!

[pure haven]

Man why's Glacia hitting so hard

[verbal karma]

TELL ME ABOUT IT

I literally can't beat her in R1 even with SS Red

and I am too stubborn to move my R2, R3 or R5 candidate to R1

I have chosen those candidates for R2, R3 and R5 for very VERY specific reasons

and if I were to move ANY of them to R1, then my whole strategy would be destroyed

[manic kiln]

it's been a day and you still struggling with Glacia round 1, change the team or change the round.
SS Red is good but not that good any more with tons of fire units released after him. He's not a fail proof unit, you need both offensive and defensive units for Glacia, you want to overkill that stage, use tankier support with sp def buffs and postsync, using mega units for presync is a bit annoying when you want ex support too. or change your dps, Silver is better here, 2 syncs with him and you can wipe that stage without ex support

[verbal karma]

but the Silver + Lyra combo is already tailor made for R5 😦

which is why I can't move him to R1

[keen jasper]

Well, I saved the Ho-Oh duo for Red

[verbal karma]

since then I'd have nobody for R5

[verbal karma]

well, I only have Silver & Ho-Oh, not SS Morty & Ho-Oh

hence I am using Lyra & Meganium in SS Morty's place

[manic kiln]

lyra is not gonna tank r5 i'm telling you you have a decent number of great dps and you keep saving them for easier stages when glacia and red need busted units

[verbal karma]

so wait...if I use Silver and Lyra in R1

then who am I suppoesd to use in R5?

I am saving up SS May for R2 because of the R2 gimmick

and I am saving up SS Hilda for R3 because of the R3 gimmick

[manic kiln]

team building is more important the the round gimmick

[verbal karma]

I mean...the R3 gimmick is there to combat SS Hilda being very MG hungry

and R2 plays into the strengths of my planned SS May team

which consists out of SS May debuffing Speed, Kiawe debuffing Defense and an additional Evasion debuffer

and yeah, that team is tailor-made for a R2 Grimsley

[manic kiln]

both glacia and red stage you want to put sun up right away so I don't understand you saving Lyra for that stage, you can use her as a 2nd support not the main. I said use silver for glacia not lyra, you can use silver blaine and a support for glacia, i'm sure you have another sun setter for red
if you don't want to change the round or the team than you can keep going around until you beat rng

[verbal karma]

well...my sun setters are:

SS Acerola
Blaine
Lyra
Anni Raihan
Gordie

the last two can only set up sun once, tho

meaning I can't use them in battles where the opponent can change the weather more than once

[manic kiln]

gordie or raihan is great for red stage, you only need to set sun 1 time because of perma field, gordie can also applies rebuffs

[verbal karma]

hold on, lemme double check something

ah, good, nobody in NC Red's stage has Hail

then yeah, I can use Gordie or Anni Raihan there

[keen jasper]

Boy, Silver easily annihilates any and all fire-weak stages

[verbal karma]

which means I can also use Lyra outside of R5, possibly

[manic kiln]

Cold Front
Causes a hailstorm the first time the user enters the battle each battle.

red stage has Hail

and Hail Alert 5
Extends the duration of a hailstorm when a hailstorm is caused while the user is on the field.

[verbal karma]

wait, huh?

Hail isn't listed as a move NC Red or any of his sides know

[keen jasper]

Hail Alert doesn't matter anyways

[verbal karma]

unlike with Glacia

[manic kiln]

that's his passive

[manic kiln]

yeah perma field

[verbal karma]

oh, when I said "Hail", I moreso meant the move Hail

since the move Hail can easily replace my Sun with Hail again

you get what I mean?

[toxic cobalt]

I cannot stress this enough just stall round 1

Koga Janine mistyduck

Easy

[manic kiln]

they want to ontype

[toxic cobalt]

So do I but not this much

[verbal karma]

hold on, right now, I am just trying to clear up a confusion regarding R5

[manic kiln]

you only need to set sun 1 time for round 5

[verbal karma]

okay, good

[manic kiln]

he won't override it

[verbal karma]

that's what I wanted to know

thank you

now I can plan accordingly

[pure haven]

I DID IT

I hope Glacia dies in a fire please

Was she buffed for this special CS?

Cuz I felt like she hit harder than usual

[formal vigil]

No

[manic kiln]

other than Red they are the same stages from region CS

[pure haven]

Man wth

[formal vigil]

She probably feels harder due to your params

[pure haven]

I usually don't have many troubles with SS Acerola, Hilda and SC Steven/MR

[manic kiln]

you feel like they're harder because you have to use 5 fire team instead of 1

or yes parameters issues

[pure haven]

Maybe

But is weird cuz I always use the same params for her

Well anyways, fuck her

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I forgot: if I use Silver for R1, and SS Red is too squishy for R5 as well, then...uh...who can I even use for R5?

[manic kiln]

sshilda, ssmay, gloria 1 of them

[verbal karma]

Gloria then

[manic kiln]

they're overkill for the other 3 stages

yeah fire rebuff with kill red faster, if you pair her with gordie too

still way overkill

[toxic cobalt]

You could stall round 5 instead

[verbal karma]

actually, Lost gave me a good idea

and I really want to make use of that idea

anyway, thank you, Lost

[manic kiln]

[verbal karma]

hmm...wait! Silver is physical!

that means I can use SS Acerola and save Blaine for a Special Atk user

[manic kiln]

yes that works too

[drifting sleet]

Poison stall is koga+janine+ a tank?

[pure haven]

Man I don't want to deal with Kalos CS

Gonna have to get medals first week tho

[swift swan]

a tank that has a way to sustain themselves

potion, synchro healing, recuperation, that kind of stuff

[drifting sleet]

Sooooooo Ampharos

Are there any better options than Koga/Janine?

[old orchid]

you can use Lucy instead of Koga

[swift swan]

Lucy works, yes

[old orchid]

with grid she has 100% chance to poison and also has trap

[drifting sleet]

Like any way to make it go faster

[old orchid]

Janine is there to debuff offensive stats

[swift swan]

poison stall in essence is slow

there's no such thing as making it go faster since it deals damage over time based on the opponent's max HP

[drifting sleet]

Hm okay

Reccommended tanks?

[swift swan]

just make sure you inflict bad poison instead of regular poison

[old orchid]

for tank just use anyone has good bulk and healing

Skyla is good for example

[swift swan]

like I said, units with self-healing capabilities with potion, recuperation, synchro healing etc. if they can buff defensive stats that'd be great too

#1097597679015567420 here are various poison stall team ideas

[pure haven]

You guys think I'll be fine for the remaining three? I'm missing Grimsley, Koga and Red

[drifting sleet]

Are there any specific enemies to avoid fighting on specific rounds for special cs?

[pure haven]

I would run NC Red but I'm pretty sure CS Red will kill me first lol

[nocturne pawn]

you dont need ss brendan with marnie

glacia support might be kinda rough

[sinful heron]

As a general rule, status up vs Koga is inadvisable, but other than that, not really.

[pure haven]

Hmm

[nocturne pawn]

i would swap ss brendan and glacia honestly

[pure haven]

Maybe swap ssBrendan over?

[nocturne pawn]

or just dont use her at all and use a tank

[nocturne pawn]

yea

bluecanine appreciates the fast set up

[pure haven]

Let me take a look at my supports

Maybe I can bring Aaron on Marnie team since Marnie just self buffs

[nocturne pawn]

hes ice weak

so

[pure haven]

Oh fuck you're right 💀

BP Morty?

[sinful heron]

Always a decent call tbh

[pure haven]

Also have Skyla and Evelyn saved

Not EX tho

Though I can upgrade to EX whatever I need lol

Yeah I think the most tanky stuff I got are Skyla, Evelyn, bp Morty, Dawn and Dana I think

[swift swan]

I agree with SS Brendan going to Bluecanine

So you can remove Lucian and replace him with a sun setter. Do you have tech vulpix?

[pure haven]

Yes that's what I've been doing

But koga doesn't die pre sync

Crit shield is screwing me over

Maybe I can off-type with NC Red

[swift swan]

Oof, you've used up CBede...

cBede really helped with the SMUN stacks for Blue

[pure haven]

Yup

[swift swan]

SS Brendan can do it too ofc

[pure haven]

What about running Dana and SS Brendan?

[swift swan]

Hmmmm. You can give that a try. But I think SS Brendan and an eggmon sun setter is enough. Is SS Brendan EXd?

[pure haven]

Yup

[verbal karma]

me: "yeah, my SS May team is tailor made for R2 Grimsley!"
also me: took 20 tries to actually beat R2 Grimsley with my SS May team

[pure haven]

I'm on R4 btw

[swift swan]

Okay, so don't attack with Bluecanine until Brendan's sync to stack 2 SMUNs

[pure haven]

Okok

[swift swan]

The sun should be up as well

It wouldn't OHKO Koga I imagine, but 2 stacks of SMUN Hyper Beam under sun should be enough to get him to a comfortable enough range

[verbal karma]

hmm...who to use Hilda against on R3...Koga or Molayne?

[swift swan]

Molayne def. Unless you have sync accel on the Hilda team, Koga will setup crit shield and Hilda's nuke won't do shit

[verbal karma]

Crit Shield
welp, time to use Lisia for R4 then

[pure haven]

I did 13k

[verbal karma]

anyway, thanks, will do R3 Molayne then

[pure haven]

Man I hate that Koga has crit shield

15 and 10k now that I got his sp down to -3

Hmm

Maybe I should focus sides so that I can stack up all -6 debuff

[swift swan]

let me test that team for you

but i'm just gonna use blaine since i might use the vulpix line for LG and I can't exchange the eggs

[pure haven]

How did it went?

If it's too much of a hussle I could just try off-typing with NC Red

[swift swan]

I got the footage, uploading rn

[pure haven]

[swift swan]

https://youtu.be/Ri0BmURoYIs?si=IpDpVthH4Cti1QI4 here it is

I picked half ally HP so i can take less strength

[pure haven]

YouTube

[swift swan]

So yeah this does mean a bit more RNG is required, you have to wish Koga doesn't spam hard hitting moves

Fire gear helps immensely

Bluecanine is really hindered by stats

[pure haven]

I have gear tho not leveled

It's at lvl 1

What about instead of hitting mid with Blaine I hit sides so that I can maintain sp def debuffs?

[swift swan]

Remind me how much stats that gives again? If it's less than half of a maxed offtype gear, you're better off using the offtype gear

[swift swan]

Oh that's still slightly higher than a maxed out offtype gear, so use that

[swift swan]

Hm, I don't think that's gonna affect anything Brendan only debuffs mid's sp defense and Blaine only moves for consistent triplequeueing

[pure haven]

I mean, I went from 13k to 15 almost 16k with sp def debuffs before you sent the video

By hitting sides instead of mid with eggmon

[swift swan]

I think it's just a difference in damage roll

I sometimes hit 19k, sometimes 20k, depends on rng

[pure haven]

I see

Might be a must to get Blue to 140-150?

Mine's at 130

[swift swan]

Nah i'm sure 130 is fine

[pure haven]

Gotcha

Gonna try later tho

I'm on class

Tysm btw

[swift swan]

Good luck

[lone spruce]

The leveling up makes minimal difference. I personally only level up past 140 the pairs I really like or are really good just so they’re on the top of my sync pool lol

[noble plaza]

I already beat Glacia, but I'm getting a little stuck on who to use next. Molayne and Grimsley hit pretty hard physically, but Grimsley also has that fucking passive where his attack goes up at each hit, so I don't know who to use Lucian for (or if I should use another pair to lower the attack like Lodge Lillie or TMR). And because they hit so hard physically I feel like I should burn them but I feel like I need to sacrifice a slot for a chance to burn.
I also already used Silver and Hilbert and Tech Ninetales

I also don't know who to use Lodge Irida, Ethan or Bluecanine for

I know I can off type but I want to explore my options first

[swift swan]

Hmm. I did Hilda/Lodge Irida/Hilbert on Grimsley. Non-EX was a bit RNG because I had to rely on flinches for the sides but it was straightforward (Hilda nukes, Irida flinches as much as she could). Can replace Hilbert with an EX support crit buffer

[swift swan]

I did a Bluecanine clear here but I was relying on SMUN stacks on Hyper Beam. Doesn't seem like you have that unfortunately

[dark osprey]

Can try lodge Irida, sun and Hop EX maybe for Molayne

Or Kiawe instead of Hop

I guess you have 3 sun setters in total right?

[old orchid]

I would use Hop because is tankier and buffs defense. Also Molayne stage has some X Defense All iirc

[noble plaza]

If you count Bede yes

[dark osprey]

If you've got tech vulpix then 4? Not counting Adaman actually

[noble plaza]

Also if it matters most of these guys don't have Crit Strike 2

[dark osprey]

Sun setters probably don't need it

[noble plaza]

Oh I already used tech Ninetales so I excluded her

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah

[noble plaza]

I meant the strikers/nukes

[dark osprey]

Then Blaine, ss Erika, Bede left

[swift swan]

CS2 would really help

Fire Weak CS stages are so bulky

[dark osprey]

Can farm them in gauntlet still right?

[noble plaza]

I tried getting it on Bluecanine but no luck

Yeah gauntlet is still around