Champion Stadium

[calm marsh]

No Blizzard Spam

No X SpA and kill all your team

[grand trout]

ALSO WHY THE FUCK IS HER ICY WIND STRONG

[normal falcon]

managed to beat glacia

She lived my final attacks on 200 hp or something so i had to chip her down past that point but i DID win

[vast dome]

My EX fire type strikers are SS Red, Ethan, Silver and Leon.

[normal falcon]

red silver and leon should be able to carry you through some fights for sure

[verbal karma]

...damn, I guess nobody can help me decide then?

[magic notch]

Funnily enough I accidentally put on “reduce special damage” and thought “wow, Glacia is tanky” as I depleted half her health with Anni N with Lyra providing sun and SS Morty

[normal falcon]

i used poison stall R1 against grimsley

so

[verbal karma]

oh...I wasn't gonna use Poison Stall in the first place

I was gonna on-type everything

[normal falcon]

well

[magic notch]

Mine are
SS Red, Lodge Calum, Silver, Hilda

[verbal karma]

I'd still benefit from the R1 gimmick even on-type because of Burn

[normal falcon]

i think my only EX fire striker is Red

[verbal karma]

oh, I have multiple EX fire strikers

[normal falcon]

well grimsley is more evasive so

[magic notch]

Hoping to get EX SS Hilda when she reruns

[calm marsh]

SS Hilda strong

[vast dome]

Thinking of EXing Hilda next

[calm marsh]

One shot sidemon from begin

[magic notch]

Leon, I might as well pull to gain “FireStrikerMax” status (not doing FireTechMax)

[normal falcon]

the strongest fire type striker i have now is Leon, i also have EX silver tho

im either gonna save leon for NCRed

or im gonna throw The Rats at NCRed

if hes gonna freeze im going to do 30k damage in one attack

[magic notch]

I did SS Red Vs NC Red

Word of warning, NC Red’s blizzard OHKO SS Red

[calm marsh]

I did SS Red with Koga, and it was hell because the team i use have 0 Atk buff for Red

[low linden]

Brute forced

[calm marsh]

That mean i must use Red TM After Sync

[magic notch]

Liking the final team

[normal falcon]

im not sure whqt to do for NCRed

[calm marsh]

What pair you have left ?

[normal falcon]

a lot, but i havent finished my tracker yet

[calm marsh]

VS Red you must have Sun or status remove

[normal falcon]

in terms of good fire pairs, Leon, Silver, Bluecanine

[calm marsh]

Or y will get freeze to dead

[normal falcon]

in terms of very strong offtypers

LuSSa, SSteven, Ash, SST Red, EX Boosted Cyrus, etc

[calm marsh]

Do you have any sun setter left

Or Marley

[normal falcon]

i have blaine and sserika

[calm marsh]

Marley can counter Freeze

[normal falcon]

i still need to beat koga and molayne but those two seem like Typical Offtype Struggle

[verbal karma]

Here are all my fire-types

[calm marsh]

Koga very anoying but he hit not that hard

So off type should be ok

[verbal karma]

I actually have 4 Fire-type strikes EX'd

[magic notch]

For a sec I thought Lodge Irida was Paulo with Tina’s Flareon

[verbal karma]

I'd be very upsetti if that were to happen

[magic notch]

I assume you will also be pulling Tina?

[normal falcon]

slight unrelated question but do Adaman and Irida have Sinnoh or Hisui as theme skill

[calm marsh]

What do you prefer? Pre-Sync or ok with after sync

[magic notch]

Sinnoh

[normal falcon]

makes sense

[normal falcon]

i prefer presyncing but as long as i beat the stage i beat the stage

[calm marsh]

Because if your team not that strong, y will adjust Parameters very much to be able to pre sync

This team can pre-sync

But parameters very anoying to play

[verbal karma]

oh, absolutely!

[low linden]

U got 5 good strikers just build around them lol

[verbal karma]

I am just worried that I might be forced to spend too many gems on Tina 😦

[magic notch]

Nice!
Fellow Tina puller

[verbal karma]

I...really don't want to spend 36.6k gems only to be forced to use a pity to get Tina

especially since there are other banners I am considering giving a pity

[magic notch]

Reminds me of when I had to pity pull Ingo because I got 3/5 C Red

[blazing raft]

I hate Glacia

[undone ether]

lol

death

[blazing raft]

Whenever fire weak Glacia is in CSMM I have to reset like 10 times just to not die to 3 back to back aoes

[undone ether]

FLINCH FLINCH FLINC FLINCHHH SOLAR BLADE SOLAR BLADE SOLAR BLADE

but seriously. 9 sync moves in, Red refuses to stay down

😭

[blazing raft]

Average grass team lmao

[undone ether]

Meganium died too

that triple accel orz

[magic notch]

SS Morty + Anni N + Lyra cleared Glacia for me

[undone ether]

meganium also guarded the team from Ice

[verbal karma]

anyway, I am definitely using SS Hilda for...whoever I pick for R3

[undone ether]

err from Frozen status

[verbal karma]

and I was suggested to use SS Red for R5

[undone ether]

thank god to meganium having Sunny Disposition/No Status

[verbal karma]

which leaves me with Ethan and Silver when it comes to EX'd Fire-type Strikes

[undone ether]

anyways

time to edit the vids.

orz

[magic notch]

well for R5 NC Red's Blizzard OHKO SS Red

[undone ether]

i hate this thing ;-;

[verbal karma]

oh god, maybe not a good idea after all

[undone ether]

I knew i had a feeling

[molten nebula]

these are all my fire sync pairs
I guess I'll wait since I ran out of materials to upgrade

[verbal karma]

...wait, R5's gimmick would actually benefit Silver!

[undone ether]

i really really had a feeling that NC Leaf wont be doing too much damage sigh

[undone ether]

yeah

Use Meganium

[verbal karma]

yup

[undone ether]

Meganium can tank a few hits but you DO need to debuff them

SS Lyra is there for the dbeuffs

[verbal karma]

okay, SS Hilda for R3, Silver + Lyra for R5

[calm marsh]

SS Hilda vs NC Red

[verbal karma]

sadly, I still don't know if I should R1 Grimsley or Glacia

[calm marsh]

She can KO Side from begin

[undone ether]

you actually need to debuff NC Red's theme.

*Team

[verbal karma]

in both cases, I could benefit from the R1 gimmick on my side while negating the R1 gimmick on THEIR side

in the case of Grimsley, he simply has nothing to make use of the R1 gimmick

[calm marsh]

[verbal karma]

in the case of Glacia, I can use Sun to disable freezing

which is why it's difficult for me to decide

[calm marsh]

Oh wrong one

[blazing raft]

Thats it, im perma flinching Glacia

[tribal saddle]

Mono type 12.5k

[manic mica]

What can i do with my fire type against glacia

[manic kiln]

all burn stall?

[normal falcon]

now koga is bullying me

[manic kiln]

just copy whatever you used for hoenn CS, but remember to bring sun

[tribal saddle]

Only first 2 I gave up after Glacia, she heals more than burn and trap

[normal falcon]

giovanni... why cant your Enough! just MP refresh...

[tribal saddle]

I could do 4 burn stall with other type units but couldn't do Glacia

[blazing raft]

When in doubt, SSLyra

[manic kiln]

oh you haven't pulled cleaf?

[old orchid]

If your Silver is power boosted you dont need Giovanni TM MPR

[molten nebula]

should I keep sslyra for the end?

[normal falcon]

he is not :(

[tribal saddle]

No I always pull when banner is ending

[calm marsh]

Oh

[old orchid]

Sad

[calm marsh]

Silver without PowerBoost bad

[molten nebula]

(NC Red)

[normal falcon]

i missed his power boost deadline baaarely
regardless i dont wanna use leon this early and my only other option is offtyping

[grand trout]

THANK GOD
FUCK YOU GLACIA

[swift swan]

Dear God NC Red is so bulky

[normal falcon]

NC Red looks straight up unfair to fight

i technically do have a NC Red of my own i could use to try and nuke one of these stages

but fsr i doubt itd work on the second NC Red

[dark osprey]

There's also toxic stall or even burn stall for koga. Skyla Flannery and a trap mon like Viola may be great

[undone ether]

9 sync moves in wwww

[willow quiver]

It seems like you are stalling

Gawd i have nc leaf but still nervous to do it

[undone ether]

unfortunately

any ATK/SP.ATK buff they have

is instant kill

[blazing raft]

I wish Glacia a very die

[undone ether]

wait

how'd you survive NC Red? The heck?

[blazing raft]

I have no idea

I beat him first try

[calm marsh]

SS Hilda moment

[blazing raft]

Exactly

Casually hitting 14k after support sync on the mid

[undone ether]

must be nice i guess ._.

[blazing raft]

To be fair i did drop red’s fire rebuff twice

[calm marsh]

I use with OG Hilda for theme skill

[blazing raft]

NCRed pull time!

Edit: It was all trash!

[manic mica]

How do I beat up Glacia

[molten nebula]

grimsley has me on tears dawg

[manic mica]

Actually could try this comp here

What are your parameters for it?

[calm marsh]

You can check how i use that team in https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1100102557109588099

[hushed sorrel]

how do I deal with Koga's critical shield?

[manic mica]

Why did you pick up Berserker 2?

[hushed sorrel]

he makes my Blue Arcanine sync for 5k lol

[calm marsh]

Try to get Silver to +6 atk

She already +6 speed for silver

[manic mica]

Isn't his main move Overheat?

[calm marsh]

I nuke Glacia

[calm marsh]

Try to low his str

Koga hit not that hard

So you can pick other parameter to make Koga less bulky

[normal falcon]

would any of these be able to nuke koga aside from SSRed and SSMorty (and ideally leon)

[calm marsh]

You can try sleep cheese

Sleep very strong if you now how to use it

[normal falcon]

i have not done sleep cheese before

my only real "cheese" ive ever done is toxic stall

[swift swan]

Hilda, Hilbert, sun setter

The problem would be the sides after that though

But Hilda has a very good nuke

[normal falcon]

its always something wbwnnwkwn

i probably have enough resources to EX her but i dont particularly want to

im saving my current stuff for when i get NCBlue

[calm marsh]

Do you have any sun setter left

[normal falcon]

blaine and sserika

[calm marsh]

Ok

I’ll try Hilda

[dark osprey]

Thing with Koga is the crit shield will come up before the second sync if normally quad queuing and trying to kill centre

With a denial you could reach second sync easier

Or sleep cheese as mentioned is a viable strategy also against Glacia to prevent those nasty aoes

[swift swan]

With Koga I prefer a DPS unit that can kill him before his crit shield

Or else you need a few denials or sync accel

[dark osprey]

Yeah true

A denial on the left is enough for reaching second sync I guess before crit shield

[feral ferry]

Koga doesn't scare me, the kid with the Scyther does

[calm marsh]

Just almost

[molten nebula]

could I use ss may on koga?

[grand trout]

Fucking finally

There's something poetic about red tryna freeze articuno for many stages but can't due to antifreeze, then bede straight up freezing him with freezing glare lmao

[normal falcon]

LMAO

Oh yeah

if push comes to shove

i have a few offtype builds

my "least expensive" one is Cyrus / May / CCalem

i could switch Cyrus for CSerena tho

[molten nebula]

I did Cserena, CCalem and Cmarnie on molayne

I got bored

[grand trout]

Umm

[manic mica]

I am trying Pyuko's team for Glacia and I swear now Silver keeps dying after Glacia does her thing

[grand trout]

@old orchid sorry for pinging but how did you find my thread? I wanna put fire HoF for posterity

[old orchid]

wait you have a thread?

ah i did join your stage clear thread, lemme bump it up for you

you can search in #1010274591601598555 by typing words, then threads with matching names will show up

[wicked otter]

Damn the event CS is actually pretty hard, it seems to favor tech unit more or Ash, would be easier to clear if you can nuke the middle one

[swift swan]

Fire weak CS generally have bulky HP so I can understand why tech nukers are better

[manic mica]

Now I am at Red and I am left with standard fire types

Fuck

[swift swan]

But I cleared this CS with 4 out of 5 teams having a striker core

It's all about gameplay

[dark osprey]

You can always clear with lower points and reset for better team planning

[grand trout]

I need to master quadqueueing with max move, it's a bit tricky tbh

[swift swan]

Bring sun, be careful with Blizzard, Brave Bird, or Triple Axel, and you'll be fine

[manic mica]

Time to bring out Ash

[manic mica]

I do have Morty available still

And Ethan

So I guess they could do it?

[nocturne pawn]

is fire koga more hp than normal i cant off type it for some reason

[swift swan]

Ss morty, yes

[formal vigil]

Yes

[swift swan]

Ethan, be careful with the AOEs because it'll reduce eruption damage if that's your plan

[grand trout]

Ethan is kinda iffy because eruption damage is nerfed

Yeah

[swift swan]

Nuke ethan is fine

[grand trout]

You need dps for the sides i guess?

[normal falcon]

would 3/5 SSTRed, 1/5 Ash and a weather changer or SSBlue work against NCRed

[twilit knot]

i beat him on round 1 with poison stall

[grand trout]

The right unit has giga impact so it's not too bad

[manic mica]

Well he does have Damage guard so he can survive

[formal vigil]

The only fire cs wothout buffed hp is fire week blue

[manic mica]

And SS Morty keeps him in the range

[sharp jasper]

Most pathetic way to win a challenge

[swift swan]

I would be very concerned if they don't work

[swift swan]

Eh, nothing wrong with stalling, it's a valid strategy

[calm marsh]

This team is hell

[sharp jasper]

Well yes but it is funny against evasion comp

[grand trout]

Fuck crit shield

Oml

[sharp jasper]

If you can't hit em,torture them

[calm marsh]

Need quad after 2nd sync or he will use his crit shield

[teal pawn]

Is 1/5 ss red good in cs event? I was thinking to bring him against Grimsley

[formal vigil]

That team would struggle with crit sheild

[normal falcon]

yeah i think im pulling out the Kalos Frogs against Koga

[formal vigil]

Better to use it somewhere else

[normal falcon]

since hes just an asshole LOL

[grand trout]

I tried ssn for koga, only to find out he basically negates mind games 🙄

[swift swan]

Yes ofc

[teal pawn]

Oh thanks 👍

[calm marsh]

@normal falcon i try this and will not recommend for y

[normal falcon]

yeah that SUCKS :(

yeah im just gonna take the L and offtype it

[calm marsh]

You can try it

But need all Sync crit

And quad at the end

[feral ferry]

How I cleared someone with this team is wild to me

[grand trout]

Which round

[feral ferry]

It was one of the E4

[grand trout]

Also it's not too bad?

[feral ferry]

Grimsley

[grand trout]

They surprisingly work well with each other

[feral ferry]

Do they?

I just used them to tank tbh 😭

[calm marsh]

Parameters

[grand trout]

Brendan enables damage with lyssandre or atk ssteven

Speed steven or defense Steven can provide accel or utility

So yes

[feral ferry]

Nvm then

2 more rounds 😭

[hushed sorrel]

lol wtf Metagross 1 shot my roxanne

[normal falcon]

the double frogs are getting BEAT

WHAT THE HELL

this stadium sucks if you dont have many fire types im not gonna lie

[nocturne pawn]

that sounds like a parameter issue cuz they can off type anything im pretty sure

who is this on

[sinful heron]

I mean it's not even about having many fire types

[formal vigil]

Glad I had ss hilbert and gladion (with sc Steven) for extra fire or I wouldn't know how i beat it

[normal falcon]

koga

[swift swan]

Check your params

[sinful heron]

A lot of Fire DPSes can't seem to hold up

[normal falcon]

parameters my beloathed

[sinful heron]

I tried Serena and she got clattered

[normal falcon]

im VERY bad at using them tbh

[formal vigil]

Serena for me easily destroyed red

[swift swan]

Well you have to learn, because even the most busted units can have trouble clearing if you don't have the right params

We have recommendations on pins

Adjust them to your teams

[nocturne pawn]

serena is not exactly who i would call a dps

[normal falcon]

yeah i follow the recommendations and even then i struggle really hard

[nocturne pawn]

definitely more utility focused

[swift swan]

Which one? We have many presets

If you're using frogs, make sure you're using the offtype param

[formal vigil]

Serena dps is good as long you bring another sleeper

[sinful heron]

Well she was about all I had and she had to go first bc without that first modifier, she can't do shit anyway

[normal falcon]

yeah ive been trying offtype presync.. i think

honestly i might reset params

and just try again with em

[sinful heron]

She ranks as my 4th, maybe 5th best fire DPS

[swift swan]

Serena is more of a nuker, if anything. Or use her for sleep cheese

[sinful heron]

Depends on how lodge calem shows

[swift swan]

Who do you use? The frogs and who's the third?

[normal falcon]

may for rainsetting

[sinful heron]

Her "nuke" wasn't even that great, she popped two syncs and didn't kill middle

[nocturne pawn]

well thats cuz its a sleep innate and she has rude awakening

[formal vigil]

[sinful heron]

They were asleep lmao

[nocturne pawn]

if its not asleep her sync is pretty dogwater

[sinful heron]

Hit for like 13k on first, second was less than 20k iirc

Asleep both times

[nocturne pawn]

that sounds like you took too much hp or defense

[sinful heron]

Just st9, the usual

[nocturne pawn]

koga isnt so bulky as to live 2 tech syncs

…

[sinful heron]

This was grimsley

[nocturne pawn]

i personally wouldnt take strength 9

[sinful heron]

I didn't wanna face koga with status up

[swift swan]

Strength 9 is too bulky

On top of his inflated HP

[nocturne pawn]

the problem is that str9 is 90 levels of extra hp

[formal vigil]

28k base hp with strength 9 is definitely

[swift swan]

Just reset if he poisons you

[sinful heron]

St9 is usually fine for CS stuff, maybe I just need to throw poison stall at this one.

[nocturne pawn]

or just change your parametees

[swift swan]

Status up param doesn't increase the chance of poisoning

[wicked otter]

btw is quadqueue still applicable? i feel like i always get behind the eneym even though i already wait for the sync first

[nocturne pawn]

its unova its not gonna hit that hard

[swift swan]

Yes, very

[sinful heron]

Tried that, got bored on the tenth reset bc he poisoned before my first sync

[wicked otter]

keep hitting the skill but the enemy still got the turn first

[normal falcon]

i think my big issue with parameters is that i understand what each one does on its own but its hard for me to fully grasp what entire presets do which makes it hard for me to diagnose which ones to change

this applies even to base CS and applied before the 2.5k changes

big list confuses me

[sinful heron]

Lmao lodge calem stormed it

[magic notch]

Love Lodge Calem Nuke

[sinful heron]

He didn't even sync

Just spammed heat wave and killed everyonr

[magic notch]

Cool

[manic mica]

Fuck this event

NCred is too much

[lime raven]

Can someone help me make teams?

[normal falcon]

i tried double frogs and may again, koga just tanked way too much and my Cserena sync only did 2000 damage cuz of crit shield

[nocturne pawn]

set the sun he9 means nothing

[manic mica]

I AM

AND THEY DIE

[sacred mountain]

Why is Glacia so hard

[lime raven]

Wow

[normal falcon]

honestly this entire stadium seems bullshit tbh

although i in particular definitely have skill issues ill admit that

[sacred mountain]

I'm almost inclined to just get the gems and Dip

[manic mica]

Yeah cuz Fire has so much stuff going on

Wait before we get the Ice one

That one will literally be nuke only for most f2p

[sacred mountain]

We had the ice one it was easier

[manic mica]

Wait isn't Hop Ice

[manic kiln]

Psychic

[manic mica]

Wait no he is psychic what am I thinking

Psychic is good for me but idk how good if they can just do this bullshit like NCRed

because you gotta pull NCLeaf ofc

[normal falcon]

i havent even reached red yet

im still stuck with koga and molayne

i toxic stalled grimsley and glacia was just mean but i beat her EVENTUALLY

[lime raven]

Can you offfype anyone with sst red?

[normal falcon]

sstred im pretty sure is just the "im too lazy to make a team" button

im saving that for NCRed

[lime raven]

Wow okay

what about nc red

Or nc marnie

[sacred mountain]

I'm saving the Silver SS morty Lyra for NCred

Only molayne left I'll try to do the Psychic Zone SSteven

[nocturne pawn]

set the sun and nc red’s entire gimmick is neutered

[lime raven]

What about hailsetter and sst red

[manic mica]

I am setting the goddamn sun and blizzard still hits like a truck

[lime raven]

Im so stupid

I mean

Nc red

[normal falcon]

params maybe?

[normal falcon]

i think the same applies but not against boss red because. yeah

[calm marsh]

If it hit so hard, lower str

[nocturne pawn]

yeah check params cuz blizzard shouldnt be wiping the team

[normal falcon]

my issue with koga is that hes so so tanky

[manic kiln]

Also he has the highest attack stats out of all CS stages, Hop will be the same

[normal falcon]

at least i cant get him below half with the params im using

ill try again cuz i just changed em but idk

[lime raven]

Omg who do i use

[manic mica]

What do I replace 3 str with

[normal falcon]

same results, here are my params in case i set something horrifically wrong

[manic mica]

Now I die to the sync

[calm marsh]

What team are y using ?

[manic mica]

SsMorty Hilda Sonia

[normal falcon]

may cserena ccalem if youre asking me

[verbal karma]

...heck, I still don't know if I should go with R1 Grimsley or R1 Glacia 😦

[calm marsh]

CSerena need debuff

Why y chose no Stat Redution

[normal falcon]

i chose it to try and remove Max HP up 2

because koga was ridiculously tanky

[calm marsh]

Y can chose str 1

No need to chose hp

[normal falcon]

ohh yea

[teal pawn]

I went poison stall with leaf and called it a day cause my dps struggled

[normal falcon]

that just puts koga at 9str

wasnt that reccommended against earlier orr

ill try it rq tho

[calm marsh]

Y can try to beat him after sync

He hit not that hard if you avoid Power On Hit

[merry sequoia]

I finally beated Glacia after 3 hours of trying

[calm marsh]

Is Hilda EX ?

[normal falcon]

what do i replace them with??

more strength i feel is just gonna make him wipe me at sync

[swift swan]

More strength allows you to postsync but I wouldn't recommend unless your team has good sustainability

[swift swan]

Is this still the frogs + may?

[normal falcon]

yeah

[swift swan]

I'll try in a bit

[calm marsh]

Oh, what NCSerena move level

[normal falcon]

1

NCCalem is EXed

[manic mica]

All are yeah

[drifting grove]

should i grid both noland and bugsy for csmm 2.5k bug?

also could i get some help for beating bruno 2.5k? been trying to use silver/blaine/support but couldn’t beat it, here are my pairs

[unreal radish]

Any order for the special stadium?

I want to know who's better to fight first

[dark osprey]

You would need to grid both. With an EX support that provides crit it would be a reliable clear

[dark osprey]

If you're using burn against Molayne, maybe can fight him

[drifting grove]

i’ve got hop ex + powerboost

[dark osprey]

That's a reliable clear then with him gridded with adrenaline

Noland for Fury cutter and bugsy with the sync multiplier

Can try minimal grids for both

[drifting grove]

already fully gridded noland but will try minimal grid bugsy

[unreal radish]

Who's better to fight first on special stadium?

[calm marsh]

Just test and he hit so hard, maybe you can try more HP and lower str

[manic mica]

8 hp seems much

I am trying now to fill 400 points

[calm marsh]

With 4 str his brave bird after sync already oneshot my full def SS Morty

[manic mica]

I wonder if the team can even beat Red

May have to reset

[keen jasper]

Man, with my roster, some of the stages will be difficult to do 4k pts.

[calm marsh]

@manic mica

My Hilda isn’t EX

[manic mica]

You showed me this right as I did a 2k clear

Right as I finished you pinged me this

Yeah I may redo this whole event to get that last certificate

[calm marsh]

Because my hilda isn’t EX so it took long time to beat

I need to make side mon weak first

If EX you will just kill them when Sync

[manic mica]

Why Ghetsis btw

[calm marsh]

@manic mica

[manic mica]

To make Red worse?

Actually cool idea

[calm marsh]

Lower Atk and SpA

[manic mica]

Gotta try it when I redo this

When I feel like it

Now time to date Elesa

[tulip python]

Uhhh an entire fire CS that’s gonna be tough

[low linden]

u aren't forced to use fire only

[magic notch]

And that’s before we get Fire High Score event

[tulip python]

Hilda, Silver, Red, N, and the Fox girl can probably clear some of those stages…

[tulip python]

There is a fire high score event coming up too?

[magic notch]

No but it will likely eventually happen like all other types

[feral ferry]

I can't beat Glacia or whatever her name is 😭

[magic notch]

Do you have Anni N?

[low linden]

Definitely but keep one sun sync pair for enemy red at the end

[old orchid]

Did you change hail with other weather?

[swift swan]

how's your Silver, is he EX'd and powerboosted?

[feral ferry]

I have barely any fire types 😭

[magic notch]

Sorry to hear that
But removing hail is a good option

[old orchid]

[old orchid]

You need to change weather or she will destroy you

[swift swan]

hmmm, no powerboost. Silver can still clear, I believe

[feral ferry]

I tried with Adaman and lost terribly

[swift swan]

what happened?

was this 2.5k points?

[feral ferry]

She set up hail quicker than I could remove it

[tulip python]

Ohhh yeah, I forgot about typhlosion lol

[swift swan]

hm? adaman sets sun on entry, which should override glacia's hail

[feral ferry]

I already used my main fire striker sadly

[swift swan]

and then constant sun after every sync of his

[feral ferry]

She uses it before her sync and by then I've already used mine

I could try with Morty, Adaman and another support

[swift swan]

I need to know if you're doing 2.5k points Master Mode or not

[feral ferry]

I'm on Classic with 400 points on

[swift swan]

hmmm. adaman, another grass damage dealer than likes sun, and a good speed support

adaman allows dual strike very well

[feral ferry]

Don't have many good Grass Strikers either 😭

[old orchid]

i see Brendan and SS Erika

[feral ferry]

Is SS Erika good?

[old orchid]

yes

[oblique edge]

For the last fight against Red in custom CS

Does he resist against ice type attacks?

[swift swan]

well, no resistance

but i wouldn't try to bruteforce with an ice team if I were you

[oblique edge]

Not even NC Red + Irida?

[fiery canopy]

whats wrong w adaman and ss erika ik adaman is a tech but he can function as a striker too

[swift swan]

dude has hostile environment 9 on blizzard

so unless you're ready for some heavy resetting

not to mention he hits so damn hard so you'll be plummeled

[oblique edge]

4th anniversary pair and Irida not strong in last fight

Geeze, thanks you, sir Dena...

[feral ferry]

Nvm I had skill issue

[oblique edge]

At least I have NC Leaf I guess...

I probably will reset since my runs didn't go too well

[swift swan]

NC Red is just very punishing if you don't remove the hail

this special stadium just isn't tailored to their kits, that's all

[oblique edge]

I just don't like the heavy emphasis on weather effect but eh

[swift swan]

if I learned anything from 3rd anni trio bruteforcing every EBE so far, it's that you can find a way to bruteforce. but for your own sanity, please don't

[oblique edge]

3.5th anni trio also seem to work as brute force

I seen some clears with it

[feral ferry]

Red's fight was by far the easiest for me

[lime willow]

Barely managed to complete the 12.5k special champ stadium

I have no good fire type attackers 😭

[sacred mountain]

This special stadium made me realise

BlueArcanine hits haaard

[fiery canopy]

oooogh ok lets check out the special cs
dont have a lot of great fire types

[teal pawn]

Stuck at glacia round, I think I could use silver to beat her but not without the sync grid for the nuke

[normal falcon]

damn, NCRed cant even beat koga :((((

why is this man SO tanky its insane

i want to lower strength! but theres no alternatives

[harsh dust]

Hi guys, im tryna run johto to 8k points, what pairs would yall run w these? my biggest question marks are for karen and will tbh, and picking the right supports for each
https://imgur.com/a/l37uqLP

[grand trout]

Maybe you're being soaked by crit shield?

[swift swan]

@normal falcon hi, sorry i just got back to you now. I beat Koga with this team. Tried with ccalem but the sync accel wasn't enough. Let me list what you need

Params:
Physical and special shields
Attack 1
No status
Interference immunity
Strike x3
Sync buff 5
Attack 3
Ally healing down
Power on hit1
Phys dmg reduction
Gradual healing
Attack 5
Power on hit 2
Strength 3
Ally move gauge
Strength 6

[keen jasper]

Man, fuck Koga at 4k pts.

I can't even do R2 parameter because that shitnobi fucker will just counter it with Toughen Up 9

[swift swan]

What you need:

• Breathtaking MPR
• Elesa uses breathtaking on May on the first sync cycle. Cerena clicks TM once then spams water shuriken. May clicks TM once, then rain dance, then Muddy water.
• Elesa syncs, Cerena clicks b quick attack
• Before Elesa syncs, she must Not get hit by the opponent. This is so that Look Alive doesn't activate so you can get a quadqueue window
• Once Elesa syncs, quadqueue with her and then use her TM on May again.
• May sets rain again
• You should now reach May's sync before Koga

overall it's a rather RNG heavy run

[normal falcon]

eesh

also you can quadqueue with TMs where you pick a target?

[swift swan]

I used SS Elesa because she's an accessible sync accel unit but if you have premium options that's also fine

[swift swan]

maybe at 1x speed if you have insane hand movements and your phone doesn't lag. but i sure can't lol

[normal falcon]

okay LOL

so i quadqueue

and then on her next move

use the TM

[swift swan]

yes

[normal falcon]

ok

[swift swan]

i couldn't record it, there were just too many resets

[normal falcon]

does May need to be EXed for this to work?

[swift swan]

that would greatly help. i think my second sync with her did 33k

[normal falcon]

oh my gosh LOL

[swift swan]

at strength 9, Koga has 35k HP total

so I was cutting it rather close actually

[normal falcon]

wow

[swift swan]

another option you can probably try is flinch/sleeplock

for as long as you can until you reach second sync and then some

[mortal dirge]

whats the catch on this event?

[mellow linden]

Wdym

[normal falcon]

hmmm..

[mortal dirge]

everything is invincible lol

[normal falcon]

i have SSteven EXed so if nuking is the requirement i miiiiiiight be able to cook something with that

since his nuke is stupid

but thank you for giving me a strategy to try at least whwkwnw

good to know i have units who MIGHT be able to do something

[mellow linden]

No they aren't, everyone except Red is copy-pasted from a regular CS region and Red's gimmick is easily shut down by clicking Sunny Day.

If you're not dealing damage it's likely you picked 1 or more Damage Reduction 8 parameters that would hinder your damage-dealer

[mortal dirge]

dont know how to beat this guys

[teal pawn]

How to beat molayne? I think I used my main poison stalls already so idk if there's any other options

[mellow linden]

What parameters are you using?

[mellow linden]

Could you show your available Fire Strike and Tech pairs real quick? You likely have someone who can beat him

[teal pawn]

Okay

[mortal dirge]

I did Glacia and Koga easily but molayne and grimsley are impossible

[mortal dirge]

the regular ones i use to bat the CS

beat

[swift swan]

good luck!

[mellow linden]

And those are? The teams you're using for Molayne and Grimsley would also be helpful information

[normal falcon]

thank you! ill try the SSteven thing i said first since after Glacia idk if im ready for another run of that BUT your efforts are VERY appreciated still :>

[mellow linden]

And the teams you're using for them?

[keen jasper]

Fuck, the left side was literally left with 1 HP remaining and died to Double Edge

[teal pawn]

This is all of them

[mellow linden]

I was specifically looking for your Fire ones, but this is fine

[teal pawn]

Ah my bad

[mellow linden]

Gloria + Cinderace should be able to beat Molayne pretty easily

With a proper team and parameters

[normal falcon]

new koga team: bianca / ssteven / C!Red
we'll see how this goes, using these params

[mortal dirge]

wait i beat grimsley with Emboar

i need Molayne now

[teal pawn]

I see, although if I use cinderace here then not sure how will I beat red tho

[mortal dirge]

Who should I use for Molayne?

i think Red should be the one cause of sun

silvr i mean

silver

[mellow linden]

Silver or SS Hilda should be able to beat Molayne easily

[mortal dirge]

who should i support him with?

[plush tangle]

they all beat molayne easily kek

[mellow linden]

Do you have any other Sun setters besides Blaine available?

[teal pawn]

Ss Erika and eggmon ninetail fox

[plush tangle]

Maylene is very good on Red since she has the status shield, that is permanent thanks to round paramater

[mellow linden]

Alright, perfect. Can use Silver against Molayne if you wanna save Gloria for Red then

[mortal dirge]

Which support for silver against molayne?

[keen jasper]

Man, I'm losing my mind on 4k pts. Koga

[teal pawn]

True but I haven't beat glacia yet so there's that too

[mellow linden]

Either an Attack + crit Support if you wanna do a more "standard" clear or a Speed buffer if you wanna try to do a Silver 1st Sync nuke team

[teal pawn]

Those 3 are like the only ones left to beat, koga and grimsley I did poison stall

[mellow linden]

Fortunately you have 3 Sun setters and an SS Red. 1 damage-dealer + 1 Sun setter can go to Glacia, another set to Molayne, and the final set to Red

[mortal dirge]

im doing no damage to molayne

[mortal dirge]

can you be more specific with a team?

[mellow linden]

What's Silver's grid and what moves are you using?

[mellow linden]

Not really because 1) I don't know your roster and 2) the specifics are pretty unimportant as long as you bring a proper Support and a Sun setter

[teal pawn]

Ah true, i was worried that I didn't have enough options to go with dmg, but will see how it goes

[mortal dirge]

i had sun and full speed and did 1k with the sync lol

[mellow linden]

That sounds like Physical Damage Reduction 8 was turned on and/or no offensive buffs

What was the specific team?

[mortal dirge]

silvr, SS Leaf and Skyla. yeah i hjad ohysicical damage reduction but silvrer does special damage

[mellow linden]

His Sync is physical

Is Silver gridded for Trainer Move Berserker and Trainer Move Super Preparation?

[manic kiln]

[mortal dirge]

hmm

fuck i dont know what to do

[teal pawn]

I made that mistake earlier with silver while running special dmg reduction param only to see his sync and sacred fire was phys

[mortal dirge]

silver grid is ramming speed

berserker

[mellow linden]

So you don't have his Sync modifiers?

Try this grid if you're not gonna use an Attack + crit Support

[mortal dirge]

wait finally i got it

jesus

thanks for the help

now Red

wait fuck i got kileed

damn

[normal falcon]

yeah im gonna take a break for now

i just cant get a nuke off before koga's crit shield

idk how to use sync accel or anything like that well

[keen jasper]

No Darach or Lisia?

[normal falcon]

i think i have lisia but idk if removing the crit shield would take SSteven's nuke from like. 5k damage to the ~30k it needs to be

[mellow linden]

Koga shouldn't even have a chance of reaching crit shield if you're running SS Steven. Attack Forme + Psychic Terrain should be able to at worst nearly KO on your 1st Sync and there's no half-Sync parameter to worry about

[normal falcon]

...huh

i mean i can try again

[mellow linden]

Do you have Standard Damage Reduction 8 or Special Damage Reduction 8 turned on? Because 5k on an SS Steven nuke sounds like Damage Reduction 8 numbers

[mortal dirge]

nah molayne is impossible man

[mellow linden]

He's not

[mortal dirge]

which team do you reccomend

[normal falcon]

i tried again and did 11k on 1st sync

i dont have either of those turn on

[mellow linden]

If you're struggling using Silver you can use Leon, SS Hilda, or Anniversary N and see how that goes

[mellow linden]

Did the Sync crit?

[normal falcon]

fairly sure

i can do another run to check

[mortal dirge]

FINALLY

jesus christ

[mellow linden]

Real quick before that, what specific parameters are you using?

[mortal dirge]

Now any tips for Red?

[mellow linden]

Set Sun, win life

[mortal dirge]

which special parmeter should i use?

[mellow linden]

Whichever one fits your team the best, none of them are all that important

[normal falcon]

@mellow linden these parameters

anyway i checked

yep, 12k on crit

4k or so without on 2nd sync

[mellow linden]

What team are you using?

[normal falcon]

Bianca / SSteven / Skyla

bianca for terrain and skyla for speed

[mellow linden]

And just to make sure I'm not missing an important variable, you're using Attack Forme, correct?

[normal falcon]

yep

[mellow linden]

Hmm

[normal falcon]

hes 2/5 and has every possible sync boosting tile gridded

[mellow linden]

Weird, he should be clearing the stage with little to no issue

[normal falcon]

yeah thats what wveryones been saying about most teams i use LOL

i bullied ice koga with NCRed and now hes back for my blood i swear

[mortal dirge]

red was so easy, used SS Hilda, Reshiram and Tapu Bulu

[mellow linden]

Could you maybe record a video of your gameplay and screenshot your parameters in-game? At this point those are the only things I can think of to potentially gain more information from

[normal falcon]

yeah id be willing to do that

this runs pretty unlucky compared to the usual but not in a way where itd affect the main issues youre looking for

[compact yoke]

What’s the trick to glacia battle

[swift swan]

remove the hail

pray she doesn't spam blizzard

repeat

[compact yoke]

The round parameter is just “do lots of damage to all units”

I’ve removed the hail each time, she just keeps healing lmao

[keen jasper]

She also reapplies hail before her 1st sync

[mellow linden]

Yeah, doesn’t seem to be parameters or gameplay. Might just need to try on-type options here

[compact yoke]

She just doesn’t stop healing

Doesn’t matter hail is there or not

[normal falcon]

i have tried everything im willing to try and it just Has Not worked

[mellow linden]

Could you show your Fire Strike and Tech pairs?

[normal falcon]

ive already used SSRed and im saving Leon for NCRed

silver isnt powerboosted

[mellow linden]

That puts a bit of a damper on things

[normal falcon]

i missed his powerboost both times his event ran but not the EX for some reason ???

its as beyond me as it is you

[mellow linden]

You might wanna consider Poison stall then

[swift swan]

well that's a shame

[normal falcon]

aaaaaaaiiiii have already used THAT too

[swift swan]

i still think he can do it without powerboost, just wants a support sync

[normal falcon]

ssleaf janine and mistyduck

on grimsley

[swift swan]

or needs two syncs at least

[normal falcon]

yknow maybe i should try molayne

might be a breath of fresh air for me LOL

[mellow linden]

There’s lots of Poison stall teams

[normal falcon]

if i can beat him that means koga's all i have to worry about

[mellow linden]

You’re not limited to a single comp

Lucy + Skyla + Ghetsis, as an example

[normal falcon]

i know that but idk if i have enough for a second comp because i won with that team

huh

[swift swan]

#1097597679015567420

[normal falcon]

i was just always recommened janine + koga/ssleaf + psyduck

[mellow linden]

That’s probably because it’s one of the easiest recommendations

[normal falcon]

ill keep that much in mind then

im gonna see if this comp has any luck against molayne because if it does itll at least let me be more wild with options against koga

the more i hear about NCRed being defeated by sun the more confident i am Leon / SSErika / support will win

OW

OK. SO THAT WENT VERY POORLY

SSteven's "nuke" barely does 12k so im starting to feel falsely advertised too

[sharp jasper]

ok.

[normal falcon]

yeah im just gonna. leave molayne for later

thats a beast im not touching rn LOL

[compact yoke]

Glacia can fuck herself I can’t win

[normal falcon]

fire weak stages are hard to offtype idk what they were cooking with 5 of em

would this work for a poison stall team?

i have hop gridded to be as healing focused as possible

[sharp jasper]

Gg

I love cheesing everything with two stall team

[compact yoke]

What’s ur grid for silver Ho-oh, and what moves did u use and stuff

[mellow linden]

You’ll need an Attack debuffer moreso than a Sp. Atk. debuffer for Koga or Molayne since they’re either primarily or entirely physical, and Lucy would be better than Koga (especially if fully gridded). Do you have Lodge Lillie, perchance?

[stray orchid]

I just used my poison comp against them. Granted, I've got a premium poison team, so I shouldn't be suprised I powered through.

[swift swan]

fire-weak stages generally have inflated HP

because they know fire types have a lot of good nukers

also being one of the more overpowered types and having sun as their innate boost (before zones were a thing)

[sharp jasper]

Setting Sun first turn , then going with buff for Ho-oh and chikorita

[verbal karma]

...yeah, at this point, I will never be able to decide myself who to pick for R1 of the Fire-type Pasio CS... 😦

[compact yoke]

What’s ur lucky skill for ho oh? Dauntless?

[sharp jasper]

Then just spam Ho-oh Sync Move and Scared Fire

Critical strike

[compact yoke]

Alright I was doing the same thing. I was getting no damage at all lmao

And my grid is the same

[mellow linden]

It does not matter all that much, if you can’t decide use a random number generator

[verbal karma]

...I don't like deciding through pure chance, I'd rather decide through facts and logic

which is why I need someone to help me compile pros and cons for both R1 Grimsley and R1 Glacia

[mellow linden]

The facts and logic are that these parameters are not that impactful and it won’t matter

[sharp jasper]

Just set sun -> Ho-oh and Chikorita trainer move , then rotate to chikorita trainer buff -> shiny Ho-oh buff -> scared fire

[stray orchid]

Molayne never stood a chance

[sharp jasper]

You max all stats in two sync , can take a bunch of damage

Getting burn is most important here

[teal pawn]

Finally beat molayne and also lv 100 Blaine carry

[sharp jasper]

Give him Promotion

Level 110 when?

[compact yoke]

So are u killing then by second sync?

[sharp jasper]

Before second sync tbh

[noble plaza]

For the fire stadium is there anyone that I should do/avoid for certain rounds?

[mellow linden]

The round parameters aren’t very impactful, so not really

[noble plaza]

[normal falcon]

IM SO SAD

i technically koed all of kogas pokemon finally

but viola died too

so i lost by default

:(((

[sharp jasper]

Luckyly it is fire stage and not bug stage...

Fire sync is abundant

[noble plaza]

Who should I save Leon for?

[mellow linden]

Do you have Lodge Lillie, perchance? She’d be a good replacement for Viola since she can debuff Attack (which Koga utilizes far more than Sp. Atk.), and might give you enough of an edge to win

[mellow linden]

Depends on the rest of your Fire roster. It’s not a bad idea to save your strongest Fire damage-dealer for Red

[compact yoke]

I’m getting killed practically by first sync 😕

[sharp jasper]

Lodge Lillie is great for Viola , can vouch

[sharp jasper]

What I mean is like , I killed them after my second sync , sorry for misunderstood

Or their first sync

[mellow linden]

Well I’m specifically recommending her to replace Viola on a Poison stall team for Koga

[sharp jasper]

Recommend going will-o-wisp stall tbh

[mellow linden]

Well they almost succeeded at Poison stall with no Attack debuffs, so I don’t think it’ll be necessary to make that significant of a change

[sharp jasper]

Fair enough

[compact yoke]

Yeah I don’t know how u did that lmao. I’m dying right after their first sync

[mellow linden]

You can Sync twice before the opponent can Sync once

[compact yoke]

Yeah ik, I’m bad at quadraqueing

[mellow linden]

Quadqueue or any Sync accel + proper triple queue

[noble plaza]

it takes time, im still not perfect at it

[compact yoke]

Can u Quadraqueing using silver ho oh, morty shiny ho oh, and chikorita?

[normal falcon]

i do not because i dont care for lillie LMAO

[mellow linden]

If you feel Leon is your strongest Fire damage-dealer consider saving him for Red

[compact yoke]

Vs glacia

[noble plaza]

[mellow linden]

Yes

[normal falcon]

i decided to just bull up the team i used

because it almost worked

[compact yoke]

Alright I’ll try it

[normal falcon]

so with a little more polish i think i can do it

[mellow linden]

None of those 3 have passives that interrupt quadqueue

At worst you may need to hope Glacia leads with X Speed All so you can use Sunny Day on SS Morty’s 2nd turn instead of his 1st turn

[compact yoke]

They queued a move automatically before I finished sync

[mellow linden]

Sounds like a field effect may have expired, that’s why I said you may have to hop Glacia leads with X Speed All so Sunny Day can be used turn 2 instead of turn 1.

Though just to be sure, you’re using Sunny Day as the last move of your 1st set of 3 actions, right?

[lone spruce]

Okay cmon now why does every elite four need to be burned? This for real?

[mellow linden]

None of them need to be Burned

None of them have passives that require a status

[lone spruce]

Then why it suggests to burn lol what we doing

But thanks

[mellow linden]

Because they’re weak to Fire and have less resistance to Burn. Always take in-game recommendations with a grain of salt

[verbal karma]

well, apparently, Grimsley's Evasion is a problem? maybe that has an effect on whenever he needs to be prioritized for R1 or not?

[mellow linden]

It does not, please do not clutter up the channel with this

[lone spruce]

Is this fire koga the typical ima tank whatever you got koga?

[mellow linden]

Koga is copy-pasted from Johto CS

All the Fire weak Special CS stages except Red are copy-pasted from the various regions

[compact yoke]

Glacia can fuck herself

So I can only beat her if I quadraque or something?

[normal falcon]

HES DEAD

[compact yoke]

I just am NOT doing damage 😂

[nocturne pawn]

i managed to presync with a whale ass team

[compact yoke]

What team taiyo

[lone spruce]

Yeah man just play better. Ez according to dena

[nocturne pawn]

you need to replace hail on her unless you’re using reshiram or another piercing blows unit

[compact yoke]

Lmao, I’m tryin

[nocturne pawn]

anni raihan ss red chalem

[mellow linden]

Assuming you don’t have Sync Accel and need to Sync twice before the opponent Syncs then you’ll need to quadqueue, yes

[lone spruce]

Rip I used reshiram on koga

[compact yoke]

Aight time to take out the rats

[nocturne pawn]

wait does pb even bypass hail and hearty

[normal falcon]

toxic stall works its a miracle 🙏

[mellow linden]

Back pocket options are always valid

[cinder summit]

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[compact yoke]

What are back pocket options

[lone spruce]

[mellow linden]

Those teams you save for emergencies because you know they’ll win whatever stage they take on

[lone spruce]

And then we never end up using them

[normal falcon]

speaking of!

i am not fucking around this time

[lone spruce]

Literally me and bede

[nocturne pawn]

molayne isnt even hard tho

he has like the lowest hp of any cs stage

[lone spruce]

Is there a dmg penalty for off typing I never bothered to check but it did seem that way

[upbeat dragon]

Ah yes the moment of destruction

[noble plaza]

Like the Galar Neo Champions and those other sample teams?

[swift swan]

did you take Standard dmg reduction parameter by accident?

[mellow linden]

Only the standard non-Supereffective difference, assuming your parameters are in proper order

[lone spruce]

I actually always use that is that wrong ?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, stuff like Champ Marnie or the OPikachus

[lone spruce]

Oh that what that means Lmfao rip

[mellow linden]

Standard Damage Reduction 8 reduces off-type damage by 80%

[lone spruce]

I guess that explains things

[mellow linden]

That’s why you don’t use it when off-typing

[compact yoke]

Holy fuck bruh

No pikachu, or C Marnie, or SS Steven is killing this thing

Ik I’m just ass at planning moves and maximizing damage but bruh

[normal falcon]

well with that distraction out of the way

[mellow linden]

Do you have Standard Damage Reduction 8 or another Damage Reduction 8 parameter turned on, and are you replacing the Hail with some other weather?

[swift swan]

so Koga last?

[compact yoke]

Nahh don’t have that parameter on, and yeah I’m getting rid of hail with sun

[mellow linden]

They stalled Koga

[swift swan]

ah

[noble plaza]

Should I R1 Glacia or Molayne?

or someone else

[swift swan]

doesn't matter

[mellow linden]

OPikachus should not be having any issues if you’re running the proper parameters and replacing the Hail

[noble plaza]

alrighty

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend double-checking your parameters

[normal falcon]

WHICH MEANS I WON BTW :D

[swift swan]

[normal falcon]

now i can take on the one thats actually supposed to be scary

[noble plaza]

NICE!!!

[compact yoke]

Okay maybe I just needed a second pikachu for support

[swift swan]

good luck resetting on that brave bird

[manic kiln]

and yet everytime you pass a stage it's all because of rng people can't decide for you because we don't use that exact team with your parameters, you just have to figure it out yourself

[compact yoke]

I was using just red, who did some damage but couldn’t kill

[noble plaza]

Who should I pair with Lyra and Silver for Glacia?

[mellow linden]

A Sun setter would be ideal

[manic kiln]

lyra can't really tank tho, and yes you need sun too

[noble plaza]

OH I completely forgot about that 💀

[sharp jasper]

Random AOE crit damage appear!

[noble plaza]

yeahhh ive noticed that in the past

[verbal karma]

???

[noble plaza]

they meant that Glacia might end up criting your entire team via Blizzard

so RNG is a big factor

[normal falcon]

oooooooooooooooookay so im starting to think i shouldve saved the rats for red

not as bad as koga

but ouch! he hurts

i think i need to comb through params again LOL

[swift swan]

if he uses brave bird, reset

giovanni can't take it

at least if you're using full attack params anyway

(and I recommend you do cause he's already way too bulky)

even SS Morty took a beating from the brave bird

[manic kiln]

hoenn cs was in July. idk why people just found out glacia is a trash stage save your best team (high offense & defense) + sun for both red & glacia even if it's overkill. The other 3 are from old CS, you can build teams for them later without much trouble

[noble plaza]

If I'm saving Leon for Red should I use SS Erika as a sun setter for him, or use her with Silver?

Or should I use her versus Molayne? I just need help deciding which sun setters go where.

if it helps I have a Tech Ninetales

[swift swan]

either works fine

[frosty axle]

Special stadium F2P was easy again glad its done

[swift swan]

SS Erika won't be doing much damage anywhere

[frosty axle]

same with fire only run

[swift swan]

since her damage will be offtype

[noble plaza]

I was going to say that Solar Blade is actually really strong but then I remembered that when I used her this week she was against Bruno, the grass weak stage

[normal falcon]

used the presync more damage template in pins

oh dear.

gio died after a night slash from weavile

and the sync did... not a lot

[noble plaza]

[teal pawn]

[manic kiln]

1/5 leon won't do much with sync, also mixing sp atk and physical atk is not great. who do you have left

[verbal karma]

...okay, if I were to pick SS May and Kiawe for R2, who would be their most optimal opponent?

[normal falcon]

im.. not mixing sp atk and physical attack

im only using inferno on leon

[compact yoke]

Do I have a better chance on typing Red, or using off types. (For my roster)

[manic kiln]

so you used erika for sun only? that's a waste

[normal falcon]

im not ready to unpack that statement so im just going to set that aside for now

my only other fire type dpses are

like

silver (no powerboost), hilda, and bluecanine

leon's my best shot here

[rustic helm]

aye, depth is quite important just to get through some of these stages, I doubt I'll complete it all being fairly new-ish, but we take what we can get at least

[manic kiln]

Leon is very old and kind of falling out, 1/5 won't do much or he'll need heavy support to live long enough to kill Red

[normal falcon]

well i am MOST CERTAINLY not offtyping this stage so im kinda screwed in terms of options

[mellow linden]

If using SS May then she is less effective against Koga due to Toughen Up 9, otherwise there is no difference

You do not need to overthink these things

[compact yoke]

Do I have a better chance on typing Red, or using off types. (For my roster)

[normal falcon]

what kind of heavy support do you mean?

[mellow linden]

Should be able to on-type just fine, you have A. Raihan and SS Red

[compact yoke]

Yeah I didn’t do too well, but I’ll try agai

[lone spruce]

Rmemeber raihan can set up sun with his max

Raihan and Leon? W bede seems ez?

[nocturne pawn]

doesnt hilda outnuke a 2/5 ss red

[compact yoke]

Yeah I was doing that, idk damage was being rough

[nocturne pawn]

maybe not cuz of his expansion now

[lone spruce]

It’s just to set sun then just drop nukes with Leon

[mellow linden]

Possibly? But their SS Red is EX anyways

[lone spruce]

Nvm didn’t see ss Hilda

[compact yoke]

Nah they mean normal Hilda I think right

I don’t have SS Hilda

[lone spruce]

Honestly I’d give anniv raihan Leon and c bede a try seems easy?

[normal falcon]

gio just does not have the bulk

didnt live a single triple axel from the weavile

[swift swan]

that's why you reset if he does it

unfortunately that's what you have to deal with in a hyperoffensive CS stage with frail offensive supports

[compact yoke]

Wait how do u set sun with Leon?

Ohh with raihan? I was mad confused

[lone spruce]

Yes. Max move with raihan then max with Leon

Set sandstorm twice w raihan then his tm for se up on all then max raihan then max leon and boom

[normal falcon]

man now im sad :(

[lone spruce]

And tm with bede for all the sp attack moves up

[normal falcon]

i thought for sure this would work out

[drifting sleet]

Recc order for Fire stadium?

[normal falcon]

now i feel like a fool

[normal falcon]

imo grimsley first since his stage is the easiest to poison stall and R1 leans into it

the rest can be any order

WAAA IT WAS GOING SO WELL THEN HIS BLIZZARD CRIT BOTH LEON AND ERIKA

[drifting sleet]

Also I assume my options here are Leon, Leaf, Silver, Gloria?

[lone spruce]

That’s good. Just reset and slow the speed

Can bede set sun at max?

[drifting sleet]

Ye

[compact yoke]

Closest I’ve gotten

Does that next second

[normal falcon]

ALMOST

[noble plaza]

you can do it!

[normal falcon]

If his sync killed the sides it wouldve been a done deal

but it DIDNT :((

[compact yoke]

Yeah fuck red, I’m not beating that soon

[swift swan]

well you were close

good luck

[compact yoke]

Have the units for it apparently, but im just not smart enough I guess

[swift swan]

Red is an ass, i agree

brave bird into triple axel is a crime against humanity

[compact yoke]

I should be doing raihan max for sun. Then Leon max, then Leon sync right?

All in a row

[normal falcon]

using any move that isnt ice beam or night slash solo is a crime

its so rng heavy

but like

one good run has to do it

[teal pawn]

Just curious between red and glacia, i have got silver and gloria/cinderace left so who could be better to use in order or both are fine to deal with either of them?

[swift swan]

mhm, i feel you

that's just how many modern CS stages are

can't wait for 2.5k Kalos next month!

[swift swan]

powerboosted Silver destroys Glacia first sync

[compact yoke]

Guys, I’m sorry

[swift swan]

I'm sure he can work on Red too

[compact yoke]

I had another strength +3 on

When I was already at max

[swift swan]

well at least that was an easy fix!

[compact yoke]

Lmaoo yeah, imma see how much easier it is now

[teal pawn]

With same strat for sync nuke?

[compact yoke]

Is max hp^3 or strength^3 easier to deal with

[swift swan]

yes

[swift swan]

strength definitely

max HP just adds way too much bulk

[compact yoke]

Max HP^6 sorry

Alright cool

[swift swan]

only add HP if you stall or you want to test a unit's damage range without killing the enemies too quickly

[lone spruce]

Are you stacking sp moves up before Leon’s max move under sun and se up ?

[compact yoke]

Lmao that means that I’ve had Max HP ^6 this entire special stadium without knowing when I On Typed. Tf

And yeah I was, it was an easy kill, now that my parameters weren’t fucked

Like that plus HP when my points were already maxed

[normal falcon]

after 20 resets i finally had an attempt make it to gio sync again

and then red trolled me with blizzard