why the fuck does she have status shield even
#Champion Stadium
blazing lake
She’s there for extra dragon damage, some debuffs, and flinch
She gets set up quickly with cbede
zealous karma
I feel like while the team might work the synergy is not necessarily there, I feel you should either make a team for Lance and a seperate team for Zinnia if you want to use them, As Lance would benefit more from someone like Cyrus as a teammate opposed to Zinnia and Zinnia would like someone like masked royal. the debuffs do not help Lance in any way
blazing lake
I could do that too. Cyrus also boosts his own speed which is nice for gauges.
zealous karma
With Cbede gauge should not be a big struggle
blazing lake
Yeah. I just appreciate the extra speed for hyper beam and Spacial Rend spam when B-move is on cooldown
dull yarrow
@blazing peak
fluid vessel
I need some help from CS players to tell me if you agree with those CS scores or you would change something
mellow linden
Considering that I don’t know anyone who uses such a scoring system for CS I don’t think we’ll be much help with that
mellow linden
Iirc the regular tier list prioritizes CS performance, that’s about all there is since such a scoring system is unnecessary for CS
fluid vessel
yes but I don't want to do that TL
precisely because it prioritizes CS instead of giving an equal value to all game modes
I just want to talk about variety units for a project so I need more opinions to get a better measure
mellow linden
I’d recommend #916852389347196958 for something of that nature
tired sleet
I need some help from CS players to tell me if you agree with those CS scores or...
I’d put vallow slightly higher if it were up to me
Or vance slightly lower? Idk
I know he is fairly liked tho
fluid vessel
vance having the rebuff and freebies with hyper beam is very good for fast clears
I probably could put vallow higher
nocturne pawn
i woulde used a better debuffer than ss lyra tbh
tired sleet
Grassy terrain is pretty neat for survival
Pretty much an additional gradual healing on top of leaf
tired sleet
But i think her main use there was trap/confuse
nocturne pawn
yeah they said flinch
but i just think theres a better way
cuz dawn can tank phys pretty well
tired sleet
but wouldnt having a consistent -6 be better
If the team is already tanky enough idt debuffs are necessary
swift swan
do you need to tank if lyra just flinches everything 
tired sleet
It was a stall clear 
swift swan
if i want to setup ss leaf's nuke and I don't want lyra to carry the DPS, I turn on interference immunity 
nocturne pawn
i forgot ss lyra can actually buff
swift swan
It was a stall clear <:DawnNom:632438643935674381>
well you can't get the poison and trap damage if you're flinched so 
fluid vessel
Bruh
grand steppe
Hoenn CS Week of July 24th
Sidney
- Increased HP & Reduced Mitigation to
(Mid Only) - Go Viral 9 Thunder Wave is used by Sidney right before sync.
- The More
is Raised, the Harder Sidney hits. Sides have Paralysis Synergy 3. - ⚠️ Absol's Close Combat
- Physical
Dark Sync
Phoebe
- Increased HP,
Sentry Entry x2 - Phoebe & Gengar attack with Strong Shadow Balls
- Right before Sync, Phoebe sets
Ghost Zone - Marowak (Right) is Physical, Physical
Ghost Sync
Glacia
- Begins the Battle with Sentry & Wise Entry 3 to start off with defense buffs
- Sides apply Phys & Spec Dmg Reduction Effects
- Post-Sync Glacia sets up
Hydro Pump - Special
Ice Sync, only one physical move
Drake
- Tough Cookie & Slo-Mo 9, Dragonite has Clearheaded
- Mostly Physical Moves, Physical
Dragon Sync
Steven
- Increased HP and Offenses (Mid Only)
Team Pinpoint Entry 2 allows Steven's team to use Harder Hitting Moves- Iron Head
Present on Steven - Mostly Physical
Steel Moves
pinned message has been changed to next week
minor mauve
but wouldnt having a consistent -6 be better
Steven has toughen up and tighten up so couldnt debuff def/sp def
wicked pebble
undone ether
i think this should work.
i'm not quite sure with Sidney though. he's a pain in the butt 😦
wait
Drake has Acute Senses
sighs in a corner
tired sleet
Gradual healing disables that (and zerena’s restrain)
undone ether
okay
just need someone that can change the weather
HMMM
That should do it.
if not bertha, then Dialga i guess
tired sleet
Bertha seems a bit unnecessary if you already have ingo, yeah
undone ether
okay
looks like its going to be Phoebe :/
Ash seems crucial for this i guess
okay
I think i'll do Blue for Sidney
just not quite sure what team i should pair him up with.
Ball Guy kek
would work
aww
hum i think that should work, guess i'll just rummage for sides for Blue and side for SSTeven/NC Calem
trail smelt
Less than an hour
verbal karma
Hoo boy, this week's CS...
The order I will have to do will depend entirely on:
who prefers to hit with Atk. or with Sp. Atk.?
who is weaker to Atk. or Sp. Atk.?
I do at least know what whoever is picked for R2 and R3 needs to be fought with a team that has an Adrenaline EX Support due to no quadqueing
verbal karma
...okay, looks like either Phoebe or Glacia for R3...
Drake looks like a R2 candidate, tho
Which raises the question: who to pick for R1 and R4?
swift swan
sidney and glacia have raised offenses. sidney is physical oriented, glacia is special oriented. that's all i can say
or forget what i said about sidney, he's kinda mixed
verbal karma
I see...well, if Glacia will be chosen for R3, then that would at least put Phoebe as an easy R1 pick...at least if the team I planned to use for Phoebe is the right one
(it's a team that involves Ash, a Special Strike, hence the R1 param)
verbal karma
Ah, thnx
verbal karma
Why can one non-crit Blizzard not powered by Hail just...insta-kill SS Hilda?!
This is some bullshit!
steel kelp
How is blizzard one shorting SS hilda
devout sluice
Strange.
verbal karma
and I was using the "More HP" variant of the Pre-Sync params, too
versed meteor
I Always post sync betha
keen jasper
Why can one non-crit Blizzard not powered by Hail just...insta-kill SS Hilda?!
I'm guessing you don't have the Strikers Take x3 More Damage parameter?
verbal karma
Nope
versed meteor
Cant deal with blizzard shenanigans
verbal karma
...was I supposed to do that?
verbal karma
I should prolly mention: my team is Blaine/SS Hilda/Hop
keen jasper
No wonder
steel kelp
What’s hop for
keen jasper
Yeah, Hilda already maxes out her own buffs
steel kelp
SS hilda does everything herself
versed meteor
Glacia having a field day with that one
verbal karma
What’s hop for
EX support sync buff
Plus, he has Adrenaline
Which is required for R3
versed meteor
Use lodge dawn and post sync shes crazy good at shutting down glacia
verbal karma
No it isn’t
It is because of the R3 param
verbal karma
Use lodge dawn and post sync shes crazy good at shutting down glacia
I still don't have Lodge Dawn
steel kelp
What does r3 param have to do with adrenaline
verbal karma
What does r3 param have to do with adrenaline
...Special Damage Reduction field
keen jasper
What does r3 param have to do with adrenaline
The preemptive light screen wears off during your first sync
keen jasper
But does it even matter? Hilda will still destroy Glacia even if you don't quadqueue
grand trout
yay im done
trail smelt
And so Hoenn ends
Ready for next week
Yes I know my poison needs serious rework but I wanna do something stupid lol
paper summit
tbh even if the team is a bit sus being 3 damage dealers they'll clear just fine regardless
Emma's sync under zone and with rebuff will just delete everything
not that she needs either on type to do it anyway
versed meteor
Oh look rain boosted passives and acute sense just another normal fucking hoenn week
grim bison
Oh look rain boosted passives and acute sense just another normal fucking hoenn ...
healthy advantage you mean?
undone ether
for her
i pooped up and pop'd Holiday Whitney's TM with 1/2 of her Move Gauge Refresh
turning off Electric Terrain xD
0 Electric Terrain SST Red and 0 TM for Whitney wwww
versed meteor
healthy advantage you mean?
Drake acute sense
Oh shit misread that
Well gradual healing ftw
versed meteor
These 2 pre sync is frankly disgusting
umbral crow
i forgor gradual healing exist 💀
been trying to beat this guy with trap lmao
undone ether
haha
main crow
I remember beating dragon Drake without the gradual heal with cyrus and I was just "has he always been that bulky"
pure haven
Man this week seems like a pain 
I hate electric weak Phoebe and Healthy Advantage
Had a ton of trouble beating her last time
quaint solar
Man this week seems like a pain <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
Just use thunder wave
swift swan
I hate electric weak Phoebe and Healthy Advantage
volkner has a pretty good paralysis chance
undone ether
and flinch if you can kill the sides
my phoebe run was like
Headbutt for flinch
while SST Red is wailing on her with Volt Tackle Volt Tackle Volt Tackle and Sync Move
dark osprey
no wise or sentry entries this week right?
pure haven
volkner has a pretty good paralysis chance
Yeah
I'm using the same team I used the last time
Aaron, Elesa and Volkner
Only difference is that now Elesa's EX so
I pretty much destroyed sides lol
Also, Blue's Grid Expansion is lit
He hits like a truck now with Hurricane
pure haven
no wise or sentry entries this week right?
Nah
dark osprey
nice. but guess not very great round paramaters
pure haven
Yeah
At least you can do some funsies with R1 and R4
My Hilda's happy to obliterate Glacia R4 lol
dark osprey
yeah. i guess those two kinda help
old orchid
2 quad queue ruining round param this week 
mellow linden
the fucking thunder fang missed
It do be like that sometimes
dark osprey
2 quad queue ruining round param this week <:CaitlinSleeper:618318506349428776>
yeah. that does seem to be crap
pure haven
the fucking thunder fang missed
Thunder Fang moment
halcyon sail
Bye fire weak Glacia, hope you don't return for some months
pure haven
2 quad queue ruining round param this week <:CaitlinSleeper:618318506349428776>
For some reason my quadqs weren't ruined this week 
Does weather affects that in some way or am I missing something?
obsidian agate
i’m struggling with sidney 
minor mauve
Stop whining and start WINNING
pure haven
Ignored
nocturne pawn
pure haven
nocturne pawn
wait if i die to recoil but they die do i win
nocturne pawn
wait if i die to recoil but they die do i win
id assume its like last word here but idk
dark osprey
yes. u win
pure haven
Oh yeah
main crow
Oh thought I did
nocturne pawn
god i hate her
pure haven
Did u make it?
pure haven
nocturne pawn
ill just off type
pure haven
Healthy Advantge is horrible ffs
main crow
You can try presync param and Sync elesa first
nocturne pawn
i was doing that but she has like 40k hp
granted thats probably too much strength for phoebe
cuz its like str12
nocturne pawn
also i have sp1
and i have no cookies left
so thats probably why i cant win
ok using aaron made it a lot better
who wouldve guessed buffing defense is useful
pure haven
Lmao
Aaron supremacy
Man my Emboar just killed himself while taking Froslass
He did 23k with Fire Blitz
pure haven
Glacia being Glacia every single week
main crow
nocturne pawn
shes not ex
main crow
Wait who you using for fire?
pure haven
shes not ex
nocturne pawn
man fuck you
nocturne pawn
Wait who you using for fire?
last time i used anni n nuke but she keeps being mean with blizzard so its just insane
doesnt help r3 stops quad queue so
should i sync with red first or supp ex
dark osprey
Can try either to deny the sides
nocturne pawn
my fucking god
crit psychic on bulu
678 killed
its a fucking 4% chance to crit with +0
killed evelyn crit bulu turn before hail i hate my life
dark osprey
Can try denying the left after EX sync from bulu
minor mauve
I love cancelling out weather
nocturne pawn
I used leon anni raihan anni cynthia for glacia
because i dont have her
minor mauve
rip
mellow linden
Not like she’s needed anyways
manic dust
Is Drake doable on R4 or did I screw myself over?
nocturne pawn
yes
manic dust
Cool, thanks! Running Cyrus and he is frustrating the heck out of me
swift swan
What's the team?
manic dust
Cyrus+CBede and I'm playing around with the third one. I want a potion user, and I have Skyla, Hop, and Kiawe left
old orchid
Skyla since she can help setting up Ramming Speed
manic dust
Sweet, thanks!
mellow linden
You may want to consider a weather setter (other than Rain) instead if Drake’s damage output is giving you trouble
swift swan
Is cyrus powerboosted by any chance 
His spacial rend without powerboost is kinda underwhelming
swift swan
Ah okay. Then yeah, Skyla for Ramming Speed setup
steel kelp
its field
manic dust
Oh it doesn't? Gah
swift swan
Clearing weather helps, but I think it's not a very big issue. CBede can handle it
mellow linden
I was more just mentioning it as an option
I ran Clair + SS Kris + C. Elesa today and it went fine
Albeit I was on round 1
nocturne pawn
r2 and r3 stopping qq is pretty fucking aids
mellow linden
Yeah, but Drake’ll deal more damage on round 4 than round 1
steel kelp
simply kill them so qq doesnt matter 
mellow linden
I ended up having either flinch or Sync accel on rounds 2 and 3, funnily enough
nocturne pawn
simply kill them so qq doesnt matter <:BlueYea:618003780918837269>
man you think i havent tried that
mellow linden
Johto will be a nice breather region when it comes around next week
manic dust
Oh lmao I was totally using the wrong grid for Cyrus. No wonderl
dark osprey
man you think i havent tried that
Not sure if this is helpful
noble plaza
Anyone I should do/avoid on certain rounds?
noble plaza
good point
plush tangle
sidney mainly uses special moves, only bullet seed can be scary
enhanced physical should avoid drake i think, that outrage can be dangerous
plush tangle
lol
noble plaza
i could probably destroy Drake with Cyrus
dark osprey
Oh yeah. Mb thought to avoid Drake as well
Drake better to change the weather either ways unless you've got a great tank
noble plaza
oh okay! that makes sense
maybe Bertha? She can trap and apparently that's good here
steel kelp
Acute senses or something
dark osprey
I guess so. Can try without changing the weather as well. The trap is actually to counter the acute senses but gradual healing will deal with it either ways
noble plaza
Ohhhh
nocturne pawn
yes
unreal radish
Any order this week or we can do in any without problems?
mellow linden
Well, you may want to consider avoiding Drake and Sidney on Round 4 as well, but it’s not as big of an issue as Glacia round 1 would be
noble plaza
who should I do Round 2? I just beat Drake
quaint solar
who should I do Round 2? I just beat Drake
I did Pheobe on Round 2
dark osprey
Ideally could do Sidney round 2 since the reduced physical damage may be helpful but it also ruins quad queue
So can go for a denial strategy if you've got some good flying damage dealers
Or alternatively go full attacking rush parameters as well
minor mauve
i cheesed sidney with the toxic/flinch/confuse/trap off-type team i showed before
using sycamore instead for the sp def
and sp atk
wicked ibex
what team o.o
peak stirrup
Would using SS Red Nuke for r4 Glacia be a bad idea since the parameters suggest physical moves?
quaint solar
Would using SS Red Nuke for r4 Glacia be a bad idea since the parameters suggest...
I used
Rapidash/Archanine/Ho-Ho
nocturne pawn
Would using SS Red Nuke for r4 Glacia be a bad idea since the parameters suggest...
doesnt matter
you dont have to use round effects fyi
he will still work well
mellow linden
A 2/5+ SS Red under Sun should destroy Glacia, yeah
eternal lodge
Any bets on how many turns for the battle to end?
tired sleet
Depends on what params you have
Can’t imagine it surviving past turn 3-4 with hyper Aggro params
minor mauve
bet i could do it in 0 turns with my level 60 cheren
steel kelp
No kill like overkill
lean cosmos
Trying to build teams and I’m wondering Is poison stalling even viable for CS?
tired sleet
Yeah, poison stall is one of the easiest ways to cheese a stage
Is this for master mode or have you not gotten the medal yet?
tired sleet
If you want some team comp suggestions, I’d replace bertha for someone a bit more gauge efficient and Blue’s allies for people who can buff spatk and crit
lean cosmos
So I’m having a lot of trouble with Sidney and phoebe, the problem for phoebe is that I have no good electric pairs
mellow linden
Could you show us your Electric roster?
Also, Sabrina is a much better Support for Blue than Hop
Since Sabrina buffs Sp. Atk. while Hop buffs Attack
lean cosmos
mellow linden
Do you happen to have a 4-star Strike candy?
lean cosmos
Nope
mellow linden
Then tbh you’d probably be better off off-typing Phoebe
And rolling with MC + Pikachu for Potion + Electric on type medal
lean cosmos
mhm, who would I be good off-typing with?
mellow linden
Oleana, means you can have more flexibility on both the Blue team and the team you use against Phoebe
Can use Caitlin against Wallace
lean cosmos
i was planning on using oleane againt wallave
mellow linden
Wallace is weak to Psychic and can be beaten with Caitlin or Giovanni + Bianca easily
No reason to off-type with Oleana against Wallace when your on-type options are amazing
lean cosmos
wait i just realized I dont actually have her, i guess i accidentally added
i guess gio-bianca will have to do
lean cosmos
the problem is I was planning on getting the remaining medals this round
mellow linden
You still can
lean cosmos
i guess ill replace janine for a ghost type
mellow linden
Yeah, Sabrina + Blue + Ghost type against Sidney, Oleana + MCPikachu + Support against Glacia
lean cosmos
Which one then?
mellow linden
Doesn’t particularly matter. Acerola for flinch, Agatha for Sleep, Allister for squeezing out a little more damage
lean cosmos
ight, also im dealing with pheobe, not glacia
mellow linden
Sorry, I meant Phoebe
hushed sorrel
Man tried to off type with Adaman/Sonia on Phoebe lol it was hard
tired sleet
This is for hard mode, not master mode
noble plaza
Ideally could do Sidney round 2 since the reduced physical damage may be helpful...
I was thinking Sidney too but last time there was a flying stage it was a pain to do
lean cosmos
Wait which additional condition should I chose?
noble plaza
I mean I do have Leon if that can work
old orchid
do you have 3/5 Blue?
old orchid
Wait which additional condition should I chose?
pick the one that benefits your team the most
undone ether
Theyll use toxic before sync o.o
steel kelp
Wait they have toxic?
lean cosmos
pick the one that benefits your team the most
Ight, I picked the one that buffed spatk and it worked
steel kelp
Killed them too early to even see it
mellow linden
Congrats!
lean cosmos
Theyll use toxic before sync o.o
I have antitoxic on xernes so toxic is useless
old orchid
Sycamore's TM cures poison anyway
mellow linden
No need for Antitoxin on Sycamore due to that fact
mellow linden
Probably Cresselia
Anyway, now you have Master Mode unlocked for Hoenn until the end of time
lean cosmos
Don’t think I’ll be doing that for a while but it’s nice
Also the free 1.5k gems are neat
mellow linden
850 points per stage can be done with at worst only a minor difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode and gives all the most important rewards, btw
steel kelp
Like some people will
mellow linden
That’s why we recommend 850 points per stage to players who’re new to Master Mode
lean cosmos
Nice, but yea main problem I would have is mostly Sidney
I got no good flying strikers and I barely beat him with Archie / blue
old orchid
you have Blue tho
old orchid
1/5 Blue with 850 pts should be doable
mellow linden
Their Blue is 2/5
lean cosmos
No it’s 1/5
mellow linden
He’s 2/5 in your screenshots
mellow linden
Which one then?
Like here
mellow linden
Anyway, definitely doable with 850 points since on-type 850 can be done with zero difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode
lean cosmos
I’ll prob wait untill ani when I do some pulls
steel kelp
It’ll be different by then
mellow linden
Do keep in mind that you’ll have to do the type medal again for each region
steel kelp
Unless you have it for other regions
mellow linden
So while Hoenn CS has Master Mode unlocked forever, you’ll need to unlock Master Mode for Johto and whatever region will be happening during anniversary
steel kelp
Johto is piss easy in comparison
noble plaza
do you have 3/5 Blue?
He's only 2/5 
haughty drum
isnt pomatools updated with the next week cs?
noble plaza
I have Lodge Serena, maybe she can be a supporter/flincher?
mellow linden
I mean, Johto CS has been on pomatools for a while, but since CS just did weekly reset today I’d imagine it’s this week’s CS that’s at the top of the page
haughty drum
yeah but this is disabled for some reason
paper summit
isnt pomatools updated with the next week cs?
not yet there, guessing stdk hasn't gotten to it for reasons
haughty drum
mellow linden
I assumed it was updated each week with the current one
TIL it’s usually done in bulk
noble plaza
Could Leon work vs Sidney? He has hurricane
umbral crow
trying phoebe first but she two shot falkner withsball
also i have ex ss blue but didnt know where will he used
welp reducing strength works whatever
now we go drake r2
1,6k drake lesgo
ugh blue did high dmg but sidney is real bulky
1,1 k sidney here we go
fiery canopy
new weeeek
lets start with phoebe
ss hau, whatever supports
next up drake
cyrus, ss mina maybe? or winona
r3 glacia
silver, sonia, blaine
r4 sidney
zinnia, winona maybe, liza maybe
r5 wallace obv
ss lana, basically anyone bc shes a beast lol.
whatchall think/recommend
steel kelp
Whatever works
toxic cobalt
Cyrus is good but remember you want to remove rain
steel kelp
mellow linden
Cyrus doesn’t need Rain for Dragon damage and Rain will make Drake hit harder
steel kelp
Keep rain for a challenge run 
plush tangle
(ngl even with rain drake doesn't hit that hard, since it doesn't buff its dragon moves)
mellow linden
He has Raging Rain, iirc
toxic cobalt
I am excited for Zinnia
mellow linden
Still makes him hit harder
zealous karma
I am excited for Zinnia
It took me 20 minutes of resetting to get 2 eagle eyes lel
zealous karma
The team ever
fiery canopy
gottem
fiery canopy
Cyrus doesn’t need Rain for Dragon damage and Rain will make Drake hit harder
oh shit
w/e it doesnt matter now
noble plaza
oh I forgot to mention this but Leon absolutely works for Sidney
toxic cobalt
Phoebe R1 shadow ball hurts
grand trout
Isn't r1 special attacks are stronger?
swift swan
yes
toxic cobalt
How can Sidney be worse I’m scared
swift swan
<- threatening creature
tulip python
How is Wallace tanking hits from my best psychic strikers
What on earth am I doing wrong
hushed sorrel
Prob just param
zealous karma
How can Sidney be worse I’m scared
Dark pulse was doing 6K against my Sabrina lel
swift swan
How is Wallace tanking hits from my best psychic strikers
recheck your parameters
toxic cobalt
Phoebes increased HP is too much for Potionchu 
noble plaza
<:SidneyYippee:992636893810409472> <- threatening creature
vile beast
tulip python
recheck your parameters
Apparently this is a thing. I switched from standard on type to standard off type that’s on that chart
And I crushed it
Granted the offtype is almost an insta kill to any unit if they even get touched once
I am extremely puzzled
old orchid
Try using an EX support that can buff offensive stats and Acerola for flinch
you can try with a non EX support instead
just to be sure Zinnia can brute force Sidney
old orchid
then there is no crit
long thicket
So, I don't know...
Fire seems like one of the most easy types to make great teams with, yet I tend to struggle a bit with both Glacia and Aaron.
It's not like I lack Fire units either...
old orchid
then you might have had param issue
old orchid
take this week for example, what team and params did you use?
old orchid
your Silver is boosted right?
long thicket
EX, boost, and no stat drop from Overheat.
old orchid
then just use Hilbert and any sun setter, grid for full nuke
Glacia will melt even with first sync
try the pre sync 2.5k param
long thicket
Two Blizzards and I was done.
So yeah, parameters, I guess.
I don't know about going full 12k.
long thicket
Hilbert won't buff Overheat, though.
long thicket
Didn't go well.
old orchid
what happened?
long thicket
I managed to sync with him and the damage wasn't enough.
old orchid
the pin has been updated since a long time ago
swift swan
With the right params, powerboosted Silver should wreck Glacia first sync
old orchid
that ice lady cant stand the heat of Silver 
dark osprey
can bring in Lyra to get Silver to max soon enough with light screen as well to help with the blizzards and icy winds
personally am a non dauntless proponent since you mainly focus on the sync nuke for a powerboosted Silver
so might as well get in that extra damage
old orchid
even with Dauntless his sync is still oneshot with first sync
dark osprey
yeah mostly i guess
wonder how it is with Glacia
physical boosted parameter for sure
old orchid
i just tested and as i expected, Silver nuked them on the first sync
dark osprey
nice
honestly tried an F2P run and it was a bit short
but on physical boosted it was more than enough
also i guess you can save the overheat to after the sync nuke with or without dauntless
wet gate
Who can I use to increase sp def against glacia?
quaint solar
Who can I use to increase sp def against glacia?
I used
Rapidash/Arcanine/Ho-Ho
On Round 4
old orchid
Who can I use to increase sp def against glacia?
you can one shot Glacia with Silver's first sync, scroll up to see some recommendations
i would use a sun setter in the third slot
swift swan
Silver/Hilbert/Blaine should be enough
wet gate
i would use a sun setter in the third slot
isnt silver a sun setter
dark osprey
since the One shot chance is better with lower bulk, could use Sync countdown -2 paramater to reduce the bulk on Glacia
u would need to have sun on while syncing
old orchid
isnt silver a sun setter
no need to ping me
he cant set up sun for the sync, so he needs an extra sun setter
yes Tapu Bulu works
long thicket
I'll have to wait later to try.
mellow linden
Hau only needs 2/5 for Inertia
plush tangle
Both benefit equally more or less but BP Soph costs a BP voucher which are kinda valuable early game
So invest in Hau for now
Yes
grand steppe
If you find it’s difficult to do on-type, you could always off-type or poison stall.
Hoenn is one of the more difficult regions, but now that you have reset option available you have a bit more flexibility since you’ll be able to try and reset if needed.
Here are some potential combos:
- Lucian is a good fit for any special damage dealer.
- Lysandre is a good option to off type with or if you want obliterate fire type this week.
- Rose should be able to off-type with Iron Head.
- you want to utilize your support EXs like Skyla, Hop
Mewtwo, Rayquaza/Palkia, and Ho-Oh are all on-type options available this week.
I’d try out the master mode at like 850 points first and were how it fairs. Going straight to 2500 without a plan isn’t going to end well
tired sleet
^
meager agate
tryna get lodge irida to work on glacia, but a nuke grid ain’t working all too well
tired sleet
I did it a couple of weeks ago, but i cheated with ss morty (and i think the phys dmg up param too, but that doesn’t affect syncs)
quaint solar
tryna get lodge irida to work on glacia, but a nuke grid ain’t working all too w...
If your talking about fire Glacia you could just simply use
Arcanine/Rapidash/Ho-Ho
mellow linden
There’s better team setups for Silver than that
tired sleet
Regardless, I’m pretty sure that wildcharger wanted to use TL Irida just for the sake of using her
mellow linden
Besides, if they wanna run Lodge Irida then it’s better to help them get Lodge Irida working
meager agate
Regardless, I’m pretty sure that wildcharger wanted to use TL Irida just for the...
p much. i got Ethan to work on her so i figured “no way a more modern unit couldn’t” lol
mellow linden
What team are you trying with her currently?
meager agate
sync was doing like 11k which was not enough for what i needed
meager agate
What team are you trying with her currently?
i’ve been trying different units in the 2nd slot but at this exact moment it’s irida/kiawe/ss morty
mellow linden
Do you have a dedicated Attack + crit Support available?
meager agate
well yes but i’m a bit of an ontype stickler lol. but yeah i’ll get hilbert rq
mellow linden
If Hop is available he’d actually be better
Provides extra Potions to ensure Irida can spam Flare Blitz
And can be gridded for Adrenaline to eliminate need for quadqueue
meager agate
i was gonna say i had the 50% flinch on fire fang but then i remembered i swapped that out half an hour ago lol
mellow linden
Yeah, if you’re not using Irida for flinch there’s basically no reason to click Fire Fang
meager agate
scorching sync…
mellow linden
Because neither of her Hostile Environments are move-locked and Flare Blitz has the same base Burn chance
She’s one of the more simple Burn-based Techs we’ve gotten
meager agate
ok im so mentally ill rn lmao i forgot flare blitz had a burn chance
mellow linden
It’s a simple mistake to make, no worries
tired sleet
People always think of fire fang as the techy move
meager agate
i mean i’m the kinda guy to forget bite has a flinch chance so
meager agate
i got it but not without also forgetting ice face existed
ok cool i can record that now lol
long thicket
Which 2k parameters are recommended for Glacia again?
zealous karma
Have you checked the pins I’m sure there’s params recommended for for 2K
long thicket
I only find 2500 ones.
mellow linden
1st link in pins is the full example parameter doc
2nd link is 2.5k for ease of access
Though it should be noted that if you're on-typing 2.5k is barely any different from 2k
long thicket
Oh, there are tabs, I didn't notice... My bad.
mellow linden
It happens
long thicket
I'll see if I get the courage to try out 2500 later in the week because I started getting 2k wins.
Also I just have a better time off-typing her....
mellow linden
Really? Fire is an incredibly stacked type, should be able to on-type without issue
tired sleet
Do you have power boosted/ex silver? He’s excellent ontype
tame gust
3/5 SS May should be able to murder Glacia with the right supports, yeah?
mellow linden
Yeah
tame gust
So for this week my strikers should be..
Sidney: Blue
Phoebe: 3/5 Hau or 1/5 N.. or 3/5 BP Soph.
Glacia: SS May
Drake: Either EX/PB Cyrus or 3/5 Lance perhaps?
Then Mewtwo for Wallace?
tired sleet
It’d depend on what other psychics you have
tame gust
Caitlin at 4/5, Bianca at 1/5, CBede at 1/5, and Leer at 1/5 are my notes. GioTwo is EX/PB
tired sleet
Caitlin is pretty solid but if Gio is EXed, he should be better
hushed sorrel
I did Wallace with Bianca Sabrina Giovanni non ex
granite spindle
I finally did it! Thanks for all the help on here lol
tired sleet
Here’s the param outline @prime pebble
long thicket
Really? Fire is an incredibly stacked type, should be able to on-type without is...
I know, what's what I said earlier.
I just didn't feel like touching the parameters for that one, yet.
Maybe later this week.
mellow linden
I think you wrote off-typing instead of on-typing, then. Either that or I’m just being dumb and misinterpreting what you’re saying (which is very possible).
long thicket
No no, I did indeed focus on damage dealers of another type.
I'm aware of how stupid that is when I have anni N and Sygna Hilda and such.
mellow linden
Yeah, you definitely shouldn’t be having an easier time off-typing if you’ve got SS Hilda
It sounds like you already cleared this week(?), but if you wanna take a shot at 2.5k feel free to ask here for advice if you need any
hard spoke
can someone help me make a team for the champion stadium
long thicket
Almost, but yeah.
I have Sidney left, and it'll be a good opportunity to try out EX Darach.
mellow linden
can someone help me make a team for the champion stadium
For Hard Mode or Master Mode?
And also which fight?
(Or fights, if multiple)
hard spoke
hard mode
long thicket
One thing that you might find interesting is that I usually stick to one type of parameter set and usually doesn't have to change to usually win.
So I'd suspect me finding one for 2.5k would go the same way.
hard spoke
i can't do any of them💀
old orchid
One thing that you might find interesting is that I usually stick to one type of...
If you want to do 12.5k please dont do that anymore. We have params sets pinned here
mellow linden
i can't do any of them💀
Could you send us your roster? Ideally from the pair tracker (for which I’ll get out a link and tutorial shortly), but screenshots from the Move Level menu is also fine
+tracker
frozen depotBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
mellow linden
If you want to do 12.5k please dont do that anymore. We have params sets pinned ...
Nothing particularly wrong with using the same base for most stages as long as you properly adjust it for your team as needed
It’s only an issue if you blindly use the exact same parameters and refuse to make changes even if you need to make them
old orchid
It’s only an issue if you blindly use the exact same parameters and refuse to ma...
This is actually my point
mellow linden
You can build a team around:
-
Hau for Phoebe (ideally get him to 2/5 with a 4-star Strike candy if you can and get Inertia from his grid)
-
Cyrus for Drake
-
SS Red or Anniversary N for Glacia
-
Blue for Sidney
-
Giovanni for Wallace
Make sure to check out the stage gimmicks (we have them written down in the pins) and try to shoot for 9-12 types total across your 5 teams
hard spoke
You can build a team around:
- Hau for Phoebe (ideally get him to 2/5 with a 4-...
okay ty
hard spoke
You can build a team around:
- Hau for Phoebe (ideally get him to 2/5 with a 4-...
i'm struggling on the fire one who else should i use with N or Red
mellow linden
What team are you using currently and what round is it on?
hard spoke
i'm on round four and i was using marowak ho oh and red
mellow linden
You don't need to run a monotype team and you want to run multiple types due to type medal anyways (I did say to shoot for 9-12 types across your 5 teams)
hard spoke
i just wanna clear first and i'll reset after
mellow linden
You can't reset until you unlock Master Mode. Monotype teams often have worse synergy than multi-type teams anyways
hard spoke
okay who should i use instead
mellow linden
You can run Blaine and a Support who can max Sp. Atk. and/or crit (that's +6 if Sp. Atk. and +3 if crit). that gives 2 types towards type medal and SS Red will be much more effective due to reliable Sun
If you're not gonna use Hop elsewhere he'd be a fine pick
hard spoke
okay i'll try that now
mellow linden
Just note that you should use SS Red's Trainer Move twice if the Support isn't buffing Sp. Atk.
hard spoke
Just note that you should use SS Red's Trainer Move twice if the Support isn't b...
i've tried to use red blaze and hop but blaze and red keep dying
mellow linden
Are you setting Sun?
hard spoke
yes
mellow linden
What specifically are they dying to, and are you triple queueing?
hard spoke
yes i'm triple queueing and they're dying to icy wind and/or blizzard
mellow linden
Hop's Potions aren't able to keep them standing?
hard spoke
Hop's Potions aren't able to keep them standing?
nope
hard spoke
who shall i change the support to
mellow linden
Actually, Hop can still work. Hop’s gridded for his MP Refreshes, right?
mellow linden
Definitely focus your stamina on that event until you get it then. Worst case scenario you can wait until you have his EX to finish up CS since you should be able to get it within 3-4 days. But you should be alright without it
hard spoke
it worked
hard spoke
Definitely focus your stamina on that event until you get it then. Worst case sc...
okay
which shall i pick for champion
zealous karma
depends on the team you are using
hard spoke
i'm gonna use sabrina giovanni ex and the psychic terrain girl
zealous karma
If you are using a purely physical or special team you would choose based on that
youd take the Special moves deal more damage param than
mellow linden
i'm gonna use sabrina giovanni ex and the psychic terrain girl
I’d recommend replacing Sabrina with a different Sp. Atk. buffer for type medal purposes
Rosa, Sycamore, and Cheryl are all potential options depending on what types you have yet to do
hard spoke
I’d recommend replacing Sabrina with a different Sp. Atk. buffer for type medal...
i finished it
shall i reset now and try and get all the badges
zealous karma
If you can reset that means you have master mode
hard spoke
okay
hard spoke
Definitely focus your stamina on that event until you get it then. Worst case sc...
i just got my hop ex btw
noble plaza
I'm having trouble with Glacia. I don't really have an EX sync pair that can boost Attack and probably speed or special defense
I'm trying to use Silver and Ho-Oh with Sun.
Aaron can boost special defense and attack but he's weak to Ice
this is round 3 btw
toxic cobalt
Is it expanded or EX silver?
swift swan
oof, ruining quadqueue
noble plaza
nope 😔
noble plaza
oof, ruining quadqueue
yeah 
toxic cobalt
My solution to R3 is the same as my solution to silver, run with sleep
noble plaza
good idea haha
toxic cobalt
Dauntless Silver?
swift swan
although I assumed he would need burning
eh i don't really run burn synergy on silver
noble plaza
ohh
toxic cobalt
Weathered warrior is fun though
Hmm you could do burn, means running flinch instead
swift swan
or.... are you interested in nuke Serena 
she can be the denier herself
noble plaza
I'm definitely open to it!
toxic cobalt
Have you tried Leon btw
noble plaza
I uh, already used him for Sidney 😅
toxic cobalt
noble plaza
he worked very well as a hurricane user though
toxic cobalt
Is 3/5 Hilby available?
noble plaza
Hilbert? Yes he is
swift swan
hilby 
noble plaza
toxic cobalt
Then I suggest running Silver, Hilby, and a flincher
noble plaza
Hilbert won't be a flincher?
toxic cobalt
He can be backup but only after he finishes buffing
noble plaza
wait don't we need sun?
I know Silver spawns sun after sync but wouldn't we need to get rid of the hail?
swift swan
i think the idea here is DPS silver. or be lucky enough with your flinches that you cut down animation time and sync while sun is up
noble plaza
Isn't Silver always DPS?
toxic cobalt
EX Expanded Silver is usually run in a crazy first nuke strat
noble plaza
ohhhh
toxic cobalt
I just got a scuffed Potionchu clear I've been trying for a bit but a win is a win 
keen jasper
If Silver was EX and powerboosted, he'd melt Glacia faster than a quintillion degree star
noble plaza
i don't think there have been any silver events since I started playing
swift swan
there will be this month
noble plaza
nice! 
swift swan
try what Aurochs suggested. run a DPS-oriented silver, with the burn tiles
the hail will kinda hurt though
noble plaza
do i sync with him both times
swift swan
for the sun, yes
noble plaza
awesome!
dark osprey
guess sleep would be more reliable than flinch here though? this week there's no enhanced effects parameter
may try with Melony or Elio as the third then
though they are quite slow
they do bring in the special defense buffs to survive the sync
toxic cobalt
Sleep more reliable, but interferes with burn
swift swan
noble plaza
Morty can bring in the special defense buffs
swift swan
and he can also flinch, that's perfect
swift swan
morty's? first turn should be ok
noble plaza
Oh, not first turn flinch?
toxic cobalt
either is fine, what's important is ensuring you are flinching after your first sync
noble plaza
gotcha
blazing peak
AAAAAAAAHHHH
HOW DO YOU MAKE GLORIA WORKS
An hour of trying her out and i can't do shit
dark osprey
probably paramaters or something since that team should go through without any issues. hopefully using Gloria's max move to get in the rebuffs
blazing peak
I tried different parameters, i usually put in alot of offensive
But not much defensive
dark osprey
it would be difficult to say without seeing it. maybe u could post a video here and someone could tell what was missing
quaint solar
managed to do it but i'd still like tips
I would have Sync with Blazoken 1st, just normal DPS
blazing peak
before ss morty ?
quaint solar
before ss morty ?
That's just I would do, and you're Parameters are what the heck
blazing peak
hm ?
quaint solar
Should have stacked all Strength
blazing peak
Oh i kinda do usually
HOWECER THIS IS FUCKING GLACIA
THAT SPAMS BLIZZARD
Earlier she put a fucking crit on me and gloria was dead after turn 1
quaint solar
Use Sun on turn 2 for Gloria fight
blazing peak
blazing peak
Okay part 1 and now part 2
blazing peak
Use Sun on turn 2 for Gloria fight
Also Glacia using blizzard turn 1
fully powered also
quaint solar
Also Glacia using blizzard turn 1
Fix your parameters
blazing peak
What parameters should i use ?
quaint solar
Basics of CSMM is to stack all
Strength to +12
Then Pick -2 Move Gauge
Since your using weather, then pick
Enemy Gradual Heal
merry cedar
If you have trouble surviving, why did you pick the half hp parameter
blazing peak
If you have trouble surviving, why did you pick the half hp parameter
i did without
Then picked half hp for less strzngth
CUZ GLACIA WAS ONE SHOTTING MY ASS
merry cedar
Also, with those parameters, Glacia has more than 3x her initial health
blazing peak
ouch
merry cedar
Basics of CSMM is to stack all
Strength to +12
Then Pick -2 Move Gauge
Since you...
Also, you generally don't have to go to 12 strength, I usually end up around 9 or so
blazing peak
Also, with those parameters, Glacia has more than 3x her initial health
Normzlly i do alot of hp parameters because i fear battle ends too quick
Looks at SST red Not always fun to try out pairs when they end everything too quickly
quaint solar
Normzlly i do alot of hp parameters because i fear battle ends too quick
In that case personally would not go past HP +6
Do you have 1/5 off every pair 🤔
hushed sorrel
seems like you are giving it too much HP
check this SS Red finishes everything in one sync 🥹
blazing peak
In that case personally would not go past HP +6
Do you have 1/5 off every pair �...
this is what i have in terms of limited techs and supports
quaint solar
this is what i have in terms of limited techs and supports
Have more than me 😅
hushed sorrel
staccccked
blazing peak
staccccked
I don't even used half of 'em
Like i haven't used SS lyra much outside of gauntlet
old orchid
Check the pins for recommendeded param sets
The team should clear pre sync fine, try ontype pre sync set
old orchid
Basics of CSMM is to stack all
Strength to +12
Then Pick -2 Move Gauge
Since you...
This is not true, dont recommend listening to this.
blazing peak
oh
I did znd it went better tho
this is so awkward...
she missed the last bounce...
old orchid
You should adjust the params depend on the team and the battle, dont stack strength params
blazing peak
I see
swift swan
Stacking strength 12 will just make the battle go unnecessarily long when Gloria can clear it presync anyway
I know people who go full strength, but we have pinned params as a guide for a reason, test them around and see what you prefer
old orchid
is this hard mode or master mode?
fresh oracle
hard
fresh oracle
k
frozen depotBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
old orchid
i notice your Zinnia is 1/5, remember to 5/5 her
fresh oracle
i’ll fill
fresh oracle
i notice your Zinnia is 1/5, remember to 5/5 her
i didn’t notice that
old orchid
no need to ping me btw
fresh oracle
yes sorry
old orchid
Gloria, Elio and Acerola
fresh oracle
i’ll farm zinnia
old orchid
remember to shut down hail
old orchid
actually replacing Acerola with a sun setter is better
i should have used "replace weather" instead
because Glacia is brutal under hail
fresh oracle
SSacerola is a sun setter no?
steel kelp
Yes
old orchid
somehow i missed her
i was refering to OG Acerola who sets up sand
so Elio, SS Acerola and Gloria
fresh oracle
125 will be fine right?
old orchid
yeah
fresh oracle
for phoebe?
old orchid
125 is already good on most content
fresh oracle
for phoebe?
actually need for all of the bosses😅
main crow
i didn’t notice that
You're Silver is still 1/5
Just letting you know since we're getting a Johto VA rerun this month
old orchid
and Silver is a good answer against Fire weak stages
fresh oracle
You're Silver is still 1/5
Just letting you know since we're getting a Johto VA ...
rly ?
oh man dunno what happened
swift swan
Don't forget to get his dupes and custom 
old orchid
what move level is your Elesa?
swift swan
Do you have Volkner and Luxray? Maybe i missed it in your roster
swift swan
where i can use the tickets?
What tickets are you referring to exactly
old orchid
Upgrade > Potential tab
swift swan
Oh if it's hard mode I guess Volkner isn't really necessary. But you still need paralysis on mid at least
old orchid
and Silver's LA shop too
fresh oracle
swift swan
Upgrade > Increase Potential. There's an option to convert 
to
fresh oracle
k
so i try the other ones b4 phoebe?
still have all boss to go
like for sidney i could use steven
i guess
swift swan
I'd rather plan all the teams and battle order first
fresh oracle
battle order?
fresh oracle
I'd rather plan all the teams and battle order first
yea but phoebe still remains a problem
swift swan
The order in which you fight the E4
It matters because each round has a different round parameter (check pins)
swift swan
If you're on mobile, swipe right. There's a pin logo on the top right
On PC, there should just be a pin icon
: 📌
fresh oracle
oh u mean like in the r2 the physical dmg reduction?
so i think drake goes first with leon alt
swift swan
Yes. Any battle you start in round 2 will have a physical damage reduction screen at the start of the battle
Plan all your teams and the order in which you fight the E4
Anni Steven on Sidney is a pretty good idea. I see some units like battle tower leon or challenger gloria that you can use to offtype in case you're having trouble
fresh oracle
w steven?
yes but i think drake goes r2 and sydney r3
bc i'll use the physical move of steven
fresh oracle
Anni Steven on Sidney is a pretty good idea. I see some units like battle tower ...
u mean SSleon and dojo gloria?
bc i'll use alt leon on drake and alt2 gloria is alr used for glacia
swift swan
Then too, but also the new leon and gloria
swift swan
bc i'll use alt leon on drake and alt2 gloria is alr used for glacia
Oh so Glacia is down already? Ok then
fresh oracle
so for drake who u think is best w alt leon?
fresh oracle
Oh so Glacia is down already? Ok then
yep
swift swan
so for drake who u think is best w alt leon?
Hmmm he's very self sufficient it seems. Good speed too. I'd probably just bring a support that can buff +2 attack at least
And preferably speed but it's optional
swift swan
I'm afraid Sonia might be a waste here, you might need her later just in case
On phoebe for example, as your paralysis inflictor
fresh oracle
yea that's bc i didn't said sonia b4
swift swan
I wonder if you can level up kiawe a bit? If not, Skyla is probably fine
swift swan
Nah he won't need a grid in this case
fresh oracle
if u think skyla could be useful later
swift swan
He tops off Leon's attack buffs and gives team speed
Two things he can do at base already
The team speed part is a bit slow but it's fine, it's just precautionary
swift swan
k so who i put first?
Put? You mean the tactics? Kiawe first, he'll be tanking
swift swan
It's hard mode, you'll be fine. The problem is drake hits quite hard under rain (which he sets). So i recommend another weather setter to replace the weather
This is quite optional considering I believe Leon will beat the stage fast enough anyway, but you can consider bringing a weather setter (other than Rain) as your third unit
swift swan
Can you recap the teams you used for Glacia and Drake? Just to make sure I don't miss anything
fresh oracle
we're down to sidney and hpoebe
fresh oracle
Can you recap the teams you used for Glacia and Drake? Just to make sure I don't...
for glacia: alt2 gloria, SSacerola and elio
for drake: roxanne, alt leon and kiawe
swift swan
Fire, grass, water, rock, dragon. Okay
fresh oracle
now i'll go w sidney i think
swift swan
Anni Steven on Sidney is a good idea but I'd fight him on r4 personally
fresh oracle
yep me too
swift swan
Steven's dragon ascent is physical so you can capitalize R4's parameter
fresh oracle
but
hau won't do dmg w the reduction of special dmg
anyways if u think phoebe r3 then ok
swift swan
Those damage reductions are bypassed by critical hits
fresh oracle
so ahu with?
swift swan
And you should be critting anyway
fresh oracle
Those damage reductions are bypassed by critical hits
if he crits
wait forgot hau's kit
we're talking bout hau and raichu anyways
fresh oracle
also have elesa
swift swan
I need to make sure because he's very reliant on his sync move
fresh oracle
But first, can you candy your Hau?
nop
don't have candies
wait maybe yes for a 4 star
nop
swift swan
Looks like we're scraping Hau then
swift swan
3 and 4* candies are obtained through events mostly
fresh oracle
or maybe off-type but i see it difficult then
swift swan
So they're timegated
fresh oracle
i noly have for 3 stars
swift swan
I'd probably offtype then
fresh oracle
with?
swift swan
Offtyping hard mode isn't too difficult
swift swan
We'll just use your leveled up pairs, hmmm let's see
keen jasper
Just try the best you can do
fresh oracle
first of all i'm taking sonia right?
swift swan
She's a good support but her type won't matter, she won't be doing the damage
fresh oracle
yea but u said it was useful for something
swift swan
Judging from the remaining battles, i think it's safe to use her here
Is she gridded?
swift swan
Hmm if you can grid her with Spark: Hostile Environment that'd be great
So in the battle, use Spark on Phoebe until she's paralyzed
I'd probably use Dojo Gloria as a damage dealer and go ham
fresh oracle
Hmm if you can grid her with Spark: Hostile Environment that'd be great
where's that? can't find
nocturne pawn
is that tm crit squad gridded
grid crit squad too if you can
it just makes her substantially better as a buffer
swift swan
Top right. I think you already have it
fresh oracle
got hostile environment and the mpr matser healer and on the ropes 2 tiles
fresh oracle
grid crit squad too if you can
?
swift swan
On the ropes is unnecessary
fresh oracle
her attacks aren't physical?
swift swan
fresh oracle
her attacks aren't physical?
phoebe's
nocturne pawn
you have enough energy for tm move point refresh and crit squad
on the top left
take the sync bp buff then just go to the left
swift swan
Mostly special. Besides, you don't have to worry about Sonia's physical defense
She tanks physical moves very well
fresh oracle
k lemme set
fresh oracle
got it